BLW support thread anyone?

(314 Posts)
MrsNPattz Sun 31-Mar-13 19:50:06

Just wondered if anyone wanted to join me on our BLW adventure, I could do with it (see my earlier thread)! We went to my uncles today, luckily my cousin did BLW with her two little ones so they were very accommodating and he tried carrot, sprout, broccoli, turkey and potato! It was very successful and it was lovely having my cousin to talk to! Unfortunately she doesn't live near us, but is at the end of the phone! What did your babies eat today?

MrsNPattz Sun 31-Mar-13 19:51:01

Oh thanks to sleepy bunny for the idea for this thread!

cakeandcava Mon 01-Apr-13 10:39:28

I'm in! Not actually starting for another three weeks though, but will be very useful to hear what others are doing up until then too.

It does feel like I'm holding off against the world right now -all my NCT friends have started (with baby rice and purees), and they probably think I'm a bit strange. Was at MILs last week and she wanted to give DS a spoon dipped in jam 'just to give him the flavour' but I said no -I did feel a bit precious, but luckily she is lovely and didn't push it (but probably thinks I'm a weirdo).
Anyway, DH and I have decided to hold off until the 6 month mark, and so we're sticking with it. I'm really excited about starting though! smile

sparklekitty Mon 01-Apr-13 12:03:50

I'm in! I'm getting annoyed with little jibes about DD not getting enough (she's 6mo) Same here cake, everyone i know bar one is doing baby rice and puree. Already annoyed at the 'just mash it up and she'll love it' comments.

Funnily my mum tried to spoon feed her some soup the other day, DD clamped her mouth shut till DM gave her the spoon. Petty but I felt quite smug!

Atm, DD fav foods are avocado, butternut squash, home made pizza.

I'm such an awful cook tho so going to have to improve quickly grin

MadameJosephine Mon 01-Apr-13 15:02:52

Not starting for another 6 weeks but I'll be watching with interest to see how you get on and to get some tips. Good luck!

YokoUhOh Mon 01-Apr-13 15:18:46

I'm on a 4 week countdown (DS is 20 weeks) - would love to join!

I've bought DS's Antilop highchair from eBay and I'm reading a book on BLW so that I've got loads of comebacks if MIL anyone starts banging on about baby rice grin

Looking forward to messy mealtimes and crinkle cutting!

PurpleBlossom Mon 01-Apr-13 18:15:59

I'll join you!

DD is nearly 23 weeks and we too are fighting off all the 'baby-rice' comments and waiting until 26 weeks to start weaning.

I can't wait to start and had great fun trying out the high chairs in Mothercare last weekend.

I'm getting married on Saturday (eek) and am holding off until we are home from honeymoon and DD will be just over 6 months.

I've had lots of hmm looks too when discussing BLW and have decided not to mention weaning at all to the in -laws, because I'm fed up of being told I'm doing it all wrong. (I'm actually making a point of never giving DD baby rice. Not because I think it's 'bad', but to piss off MIL grin)

Anyway, that's me!

JollyPurpleGiant Mon 01-Apr-13 18:18:41

Have you checked out the BLW forum? It is excellent and is run by a mumsnetter.

DS is 23mo and, apart from some rocky patches, still tastes everything on his plate smile

Forgetfulmog Mon 01-Apr-13 18:22:43

Can I join? I'm doing a mixture of mashed/blended foods with finger foods & letting dd feed herself when she wants to.

Today I gave her a stalk of watercress, which she loved (strange child!), some mushroom (not too sure about that) & a stick of roast parsnip (she loves loves loves roast parsnip - I roast them with cumin & fennel seeds). She also had some veg & lentil soup for lunch & risotto for tea - both times she was feeding herself by scooping out handfuls & shoving them in her mouth!

She's 6 mo btw

MrsNPattz Mon 01-Apr-13 18:49:13

Lots of people on board already, that's good smile although not so good that we don't have much real life support! I won't be giving little man baby rice either!!

Jollypurplegiant - yea I have, they are great and were really supportive when I was upset by my health visitor ! Just thought it would be nice to have a regular thread here.

We were travelling all day today so not much opportunity to try out new food, he had a suck on a pear and and a tiny corner of my Nakd bar (a raw fruit and nut bar!) - he seemed to like that grin

batteryhen Mon 01-Apr-13 19:02:48

Oh thank god! I am stressed about weaning. DS is almost 8 months and we started on pureed food until he decided pureed food is evil and spoons are the work of the devil. So I have had to go BLW. today he had some parsnip, pear, and a dairy lea triangle for lunch (a nibble of each). For tea I made him some broccoli, cauliflower, carrots and potato. I also prepared some melon. He had one suck on the broccoli then screamed.
His appetite just seems to be rubbish. I am also a nervous BLW as I worry about choking but I just have to do it.

sparklekitty Mon 01-Apr-13 20:27:41

batteryhen - I was a little worried about choking too. However, after getting stuff stuck in her throat a couple of times DD has just vomited till it came out! Bit annoying when she'd managed quarter of pear and same of nectarine but good to know that she can sort herself out smile

My DD has just enjoyed macaroni cheese (sucked the sauce off the pasta and ate a little pasta) with broccoli in it. Broccoli went down very well smile

MrsNPattz Mon 01-Apr-13 21:12:13

I panic when little man gags too - but he sorts it out himself and then picks up something else smile

batteryhen Mon 01-Apr-13 21:15:41

I tend to sit there with a fixed grin on my face so he doesn't pick up on my feelings. I feel like a loon.

MrsNPattz Tue 02-Apr-13 21:04:39

We had pizza toasties for lunch today - so yummy! Used two slices white bread, 2 full fat baby bells, Passata and spinach sandwiched together and then grilled in the George Foreman for little man (I'm doing weight watchers so used baby bell light and sandwich thins for mine!). He enjoyed it too grin

FadBook Tue 02-Apr-13 22:25:47

<cries at not being remembered for being the one to recommend a 'BLW support thread' to sleepybunny, who in turn said she'd start one>

<gets over it>

I'm a BLW'er but dd is now 20 months, so past the weaning stage but I was on the other threads that MrsNPattz and Sleepybunny were on, offering some experience and advice. I love BLW and very much feel happy with the decision we made to go down the lazy BLW route to feeding.

For those worried about gagging / choking. I highly recommend you checking out your local Surestart Centre and finding out if there is a first aid course to go on. They cover what to do and how to react if the baby is choking. Failing that, go on to youtube and search gagging so you can see the difference. BLW.com is a good link that looks at gagging vs choking, as is NHS pages which details what to do if baby does choke.

Definitely recommend you purchasing the BLW book by Gill Rapely as you can use the info and evidence when annoying family members insist you should be spoon feeding.

Purchases which will help but will not be the end of the world if you haven't got them:
- long sleeved bibs, from poundland / B&M or strip baby down naked grin
- splash mat, Early Learning Centre, or shower curtain from poundland
- decent cutlery such as a small metal fork and spoon, put it on tray, they'll work it out if you are eating with them
- free flowing sippy cup for water with meal

<as you were> grin

PennieLane Tue 02-Apr-13 22:29:04

DD is 20 weeks so I'm looking forward to starting in 6 weeks. Does anyone have any BLW books they'd recommend? Thanks!!! Good idea for a thread!

IceCubes Tue 02-Apr-13 22:39:36

I'm doing it... With twins! The mess is unreal but they love it! I started them on puréed foods but they both started rejecting the spoon. My family think I'm mad but hey, at least they are eating (and I'm not picking Weetabix out of my hair...)

MrsNPattz Wed 03-Apr-13 01:39:12

Aw Fadbook I'm sorry, I just remembered SleepyBunny was going to start one, but I should have read back grin thanks for the idea, it sounds like you have a lot of experience and some great advice - thank you smile

It certainly is messy!! Even more so with twins but twice the fun hey!

Definitely recommend the Gill Rapely book/cookbook.

KatAndKit Wed 03-Apr-13 09:09:15

I recommend the Tiny Diner roll up place mat for when you are out and about somewhere that has those wooden cafe highchairs and no tray.Makes eating out so much easier! Definitely read the official BLW book too. Ikea long sleeved bibs are the biz and so is the Antilop highchair.
BLW is great but you don't have to be a purist about it. sometimes it is just a bit easier to give yoghurt on a spoon and avoid it being smeared all over someone else's dining room!

slightlysoupstained Wed 03-Apr-13 09:47:46

DS is just over 7 months so been weaning for about 5 weeks now. He's still not eating great amounts and am only getting 2 meals a day into him at the mo. Varies quite a bit - some days he seems to chomp happily on lots of things, other days he just drops it on the floor.

Started out with giving him bits of steamed carrot, broccoli etc to gum, plus some of those Organix carrot stix/sweetcorn snacks - mainly because they pretty much dissolve, and was feeling a bit panicked about him choking on stuff. I did a baby first aid course, and feel a bit better now plus he got the hang of having stuff in his mouth fairly quickly. He still makes terrible faces and gagging sounds occasionally but now I know he can sort it out himself. He's come on a huge amount in the last month in terms of being able to hold and manipulate food (still seems to forget that last little bit clenched in his fist exists though) and move it around in his mouth.

Yesterday he had bits of apple, banana (not a fan), tangerine, some sweetcorn snacks, some porridge (with mashed banana in it), and later on some strawberry and banana yogurt. I've only just started giving him mushy stuff that needs a spoon - I dip the spoon into it and then hand it to him. He really liked the yogurt.

sparklekitty Wed 03-Apr-13 15:30:42

We're only on 2 meals a day, breakfast and dinner (mainly coz I'm terrible for not eating lunch and we're always out it seems) which I kind of feel bad about.

Tonight is guacamole without the chilli for LO with pitta bread.

I am struggling for inspiration on what to make. I'm a shocking cook with a fairly high needs baby and a previous eating disorder which I'm determined not to pass on so I find meal planning really tricky.

Any ideas on easy, healthy meals (I'm also veggie although DD won't be, she'll have meat with her dad when he's around for dinners)

KatAndKit Wed 03-Apr-13 15:51:33

BLW cookbook is good for ideas.
I like the giant pasta shells you can get filled with spinach and ricotta and baked with some tomato sauce around them and mozzarella on top. The shells are easy for them to pick up. Other pasta shape that works well is fusilli although it took my LO till about 9 months to really be bothered about eating much of it. Philadelpia is useful for quick and easy pasta sauce jobs.
Omelette is an easy peasy baby lunch - a one egg omelette cooked with unsalted butter and cut up into strips is super quick and easy to eat. serve with some veg or salad stuff (tomato wedges and cucumber sticks)
Risotto is fun but very very messy -recommended for bath night only.
Baked potatoes are quick at lunchtime - I cook a small potato in the microwave and cut it up into quarters. If I can be bothered I scoop out the potato before cutting it up and mash up the inside with some cheese and then put it back in again.

Quak Wed 03-Apr-13 16:19:00

Can I join? Started today. Gave DD steamed carrot and butternut squash sticks. She squished them, pulled the most cute faces, threw them on the floor but didn't even try to put them in her mouth! Absolutely everything goes in that little mouth so I was really surprised. So this should be, dog tried and enjoyed carrot and butternut squash today! What do you think - should I just do the same tomorrow??

Quak Wed 03-Apr-13 16:20:15

I remember you fadbook - don't worry! grin

FadBook Wed 03-Apr-13 16:24:45

<waves>

All the posts are bringing back good memories for me smile I loved this stage. You'll end up with loads of pictures on your camera!

Eggs are your friend too. Omelettes, eggy bread, boiled, scrambled etc were loved by dd; a quick and easy meal when you've perhaps missed your own lunch or fancy takeaway at nighttime (child free!) grin

MrsNPattz Wed 03-Apr-13 18:05:08

I struggle a bit with ideas too, I'm trying more and more just to give him what we are having, maybe adapted slightly!

slightlysoupstained Wed 03-Apr-13 18:15:56

Quak I would, if you've got any squash left, she'll recognise it and hopefully might put in mouth this time?

Mind you, DS threw almost everything on the floor today so might not be the best person to take advice from grin

Quak Wed 03-Apr-13 19:47:12

Have got plenty of squash left - they're bloody huge. I was wondering how much variety do you introduce and when? In the beginning does she need to see the same things again and again or should I perhaps give her something new every day but repeat the 'menu' weekly? So she has variety but sees the same stuff. Or do babies not remember little things that happened a week ago....?
Argghh grin

Pinebarrens Wed 03-Apr-13 19:59:50

we are on wweek two with DS. we started at 26 weeks.

he's taken to it really well, tonight he had long stem broccoli, baby sweetcorn and some of mine & DDs veggie chilli on crusty bread.

this is my second BLW baby but i can't remember DD being this messy!

I am much more relaxed this time.

Was just looking at the BLW website for some recipes today - it's great!

Pinebarrens Wed 03-Apr-13 22:52:35

Quak we just go for it i usually do some steamed fruit or veg for the baby but also give him a little of what we're having. im careful of salt in meals anyway as i also have a 3 year old.

i will keep an eye out when i give eggs for the first time as DD was allergic to eggs initially (she's ok now).

i remember my HV being 'horrified' when i pulled out some strawberries for my 7mo DD to eat. According to her, you're supposed to wait until after 9 months to introduce berries - who knew!

i just keep an eye out for any reactions but otherwise i don't really hold anything back.

Andcake Thu 04-Apr-13 10:44:27

We've been blw for about a month. With luttle bits of spoon feeding for things weve had which need It. mostly he isnt into being spoon fed. Some days go better than others. Breakfast today was a fail but yesterday he loved it. For breakfast he usually has toast and some fruit and maybe I'll feed a bit of yogurt or porridge if that's what I'm having. Porridge is mostly a stubborn no but toast and banana he loves.
We're only doing 2 meals at the moment basically because I'm having a nightmare getting him to nap and if I offer food when he's grouchy it just gets thrown on the for. But tea about 3 tends to be a little of what we had the night before and a mixture of a bit of cheese, rice cakes, bread sticks, cucumber, avocado, humous, celery etc. also a bit of sweet - loves mango and dried apricots.
I get really nervous about how much he actually eats and that well never get there compared to purée babies who now seem to be on here meals a day.

Nicknamefail Thu 04-Apr-13 11:04:20

Ooh, I would like to play please. Starting next week as we are going away tomorrow and think it will be easier to start at home. Dd has had a suck on some melon and a cherry tomatoes though. She made an awful face at the tomatoes, and interestingly, I don't like uncooked tomatoe. She'll probably love it next time though. Dd is 6 months on Sunday btw.

Nicknamefail Thu 04-Apr-13 11:05:58

Spoke to FIL and told him I was going to give her real food, and he said "yes, real food. But mushed up. ". He was quite worried when I told not mushed, but supportive. (I am lucky and have perfect PIL. )

LeBoob Thu 04-Apr-13 11:13:04

Oh I hope someone can help me here, I have a 8 1/2 month dd, who adores broccoli but only eats a decent amount at tea time, she just doesn't entertain breakfast or lunch. She picks a little but just doesn't eat anything. She is exclusively breastfed, so I'm not worried about her going hungry, except I've gone back to work 2 days a week this week, and I left her for the first time on Monday, she ate & drank very little!

She won't take anything from a spoon, no purée, no yogurt ( which is frustrating because she enjoyed petite filous until my hv said I shouldn't be giving them to her). I've tried making veggie nuggets which are bloody lovely but she won't eat them.

Like I said she will eat broccoli till it came out of her ears at tea time, should I try serving it up 3 meals a day and then fade it out?

Any advice would be great

FadBook Thu 04-Apr-13 12:41:08

Leboob - remember milk is her main source of nourishment until 12 months.

When you left her for the day, did she have any milk at all?
What types of food are you offering at breakfast and lunch?

If she was hungry, she will attempt to eat what is front of her (that is the beauty about BLW), trusting her instincts.

I'd be reluctant to serve up the same food every time, she'll soon get sick of it and then refuse that.

Ensure she is offered food during the day, perhaps who ever is caring for her have a 'snack' plate of various things such as banana, grapes, pear, orange segments, boiled egg, rice crackers, cheese, triangle cheese etc then she can graze during the day, rather than have set meal times. My dd was a grazer at that age, always ate at dinner time, but during the day, there weren't many set dinners that we had, I just offered what I was eating at the time (I'm a grazer grin)

As for hydration, if you are leaving expressed milk or formula, that's fine ensure carer offers it to her (again DD would refuse my milk from a bottle/cup, she just wouldn't take it so went without at that age and had a mammouth feed on my return to picking her up). Also have a sippy cup of water lying around all day, so she can access it (or the carer can offer it) and think of foods that are water based so pear, peach, cucumber etc are good, at least you know she'll get something.

Hope this helps.

Forgetfulmog Thu 04-Apr-13 18:31:23

Dd has now decided she doesn't want me to spoon fed her, but would rather grab handfuls of the food & (quite literally) "apply to face" Hilarious to watch, but oh the mess grin

AJBthesecond Thu 04-Apr-13 21:07:06

Can I come in. Currently fending off eager relatives who are desperate to get baby rice down ds' neck and doing my best to resist.
He is 24 weeks so will be starting soon but I'm kind of sad, the end of the ebf stage which has been the hardest but most amazing thing ever.

Exciting times. they grow up so fast sob

MrsNPattz Fri 05-Apr-13 00:41:47

AJB I know what you mean about being sad about the ebf stage being over, I'm exactly the same. They grow so quickly.

Little man may have a dairy intolerance/allergy - he gets a plotchy red rash around his mouth. I spoke to a hv today who said to give him dairy things individually and if it causes the rash to hold off giving it again for a month!

MyPlugInBaby Fri 05-Apr-13 12:00:53

Oooh can I join in please?!

DS was 6months on Tuesday but we have been BLW for about 2 weeks (I was very confident he was ready). This boy eats like there is no tomorrow.

I am mourning the EBF poos though sad

HabitualLurker Fri 05-Apr-13 13:16:57

I'd like to join too!

We started offering a few bits and pieces at around 24 weeks (boy was sitting unassisted from 22 weeks and had been furious shoving everything in his mouth for ages). Wanted to try BLW and thought I'd be relaxed about it, but was alarmed by the gagging and switched to rough purees. I know in my head that gagging is fine, and really didn't think I'd be worked up about it, but I was!

Purees were accepted for about a week, but now he refuses to try to swallow anything offered on a spoon and just spits it out immediately. Soooo... at week 27 it was back to BLW weaning after all!

The only thing is that he's still gagging loads. Is that quite typical? He's now 28 weeks. I'm I just being a stress-head about this? I only offer food a couple of times a day, and haven't done every day (when we've been away for Easter for example) so I suppose he's not actually had all that much practice yet. The only thing he'll reliably have without gagging is a stick of cucumber - sucks/gnaws it to death very happily. We've also tried brocolli, bread, toast, avocado. And chunky porridge (pre-loaded onto a spoon - most of it gets tipped out as he tries to negotiate the spoon to his mouth anyway) and well cooked red lentils.

I'm not really sure what I should be expecting - hardly any food is going in (which I'm fine with, I know it's all still very new), and when it does it often comes straight back up again when he retches. What else can people recommend that we try?

DrMcDreamysWife Fri 05-Apr-13 13:33:04

I am blw also about 5 weeks in. Dd is 7mo and she LOVES it. Which is a relief as she is terrified of the spoon!! She shovels food in and will try everything! I was very nervous at first and my mum gave me a lecture about choking and did I realise that the hospital was quite far and would I know how to get food out her throat and other such unhelpful worry ;).

However it's going really well she does gag occasionally but then spots out large chunks! Real successes are eggy bread, porridge fingers, cucumber sticks ( that I can dip in hummous/yogurt/purées) toast fingers. She LOVEs courgette fingers and broccoli heads. Plums are a big hit she takes a quarter sucks off all the flesh and spits the skin out! She has also tried spag Bol and risotto.

I have used the blw cookbook quite a lot for ideas and the carrot muffins are great. Dh loves them!

Have loved reading others ideas, more support the better! Most of my
Friends are puree food feeding

MrsNPattz Fri 05-Apr-13 19:24:31

Hi guys! I think the gagging will get better the more he knows what to do with food! Although I'm no expert, but little man doesn't gag so much now probably have spoken too soon

He tried an omelette tonight but I think he was too tired as he wouldn't attempt much and then was just crying!

Is it ok to offer ham or is that too processed?

Quak Fri 05-Apr-13 19:37:49

After 2 days of just not even trying to eat carrot and squash, we had some success today with brocolli and a rice cake. She pulls the strangest faces, I might as well be giving her a lemon! Annoyingly the dog won't eat brocolli so I had to clean the mess up myself - hrrmph!
DrMcD - I have just ordered the blw book. What other books have you used. I am a troglodyte in the kitchen so will run out of ideas very soon.

Another thing. We are vegetarian, but didn't necessarily want to restrict dd yet. What do other's do??

Pinebarrens Fri 05-Apr-13 22:18:05

hi Quak we are vegetarian too but DCs are not.

I did BLW with DDI over 3 years ago & cooked chicken & fish which she still loves. I'll do the same with DS in fact he's already had chicken curry.

i struggle cooking red meat so my mum batch cooks bolognese sauce for DD.

Passmethecrisps Fri 05-Apr-13 22:23:54

Oh hi! Can I join? It will be likely another month at least for my entirely food averse dinky child. I will probably straddle BLW and some spoon shiz.

slightlysoupstained Fri 05-Apr-13 22:25:33

We're vegetarian too. We discussed this the other day - don't think we'd be distraught if DS managed to eat something we don't, but neither of us want to prepare or feed him meat. We're not vegan, so B12 etc isn't an issue so long as we're feeding a varied diet. Am giving vitamin drops anyway for the D3 as apparently breastfed babies need them? Most seems to dribble straight out again though!

That "eww new taste what on earth is this!" is hilarious, isn't it? I was a bit crushed at first until I realised that eventually it goes away when he decides he recognises something.

ForgetfulMog re: mess, gave DS spaghetti for the first time the other day. Best. New. Toy. Ever. Glad I hadn't put sauce on it, as there were strands everywhere... Not sure he actually ate more than a few tiny nibbles, but he had great fun.

Nicknamefail Fri 05-Apr-13 22:41:03

DrMcDWife, what are porridge fingers?

DrMcDreamysWife Sat 06-Apr-13 04:42:26

Porridge fingers are very strange things ;). I got recipe from blw recipe book. You mix 3 table spoons of normal adult porridge oats with 3 tablespoons of milk of your choice. Mash down with back of spoon into a flat bottomed bowl and put in microwave on high for 2 minutes. Let it cool a bit, then slice into fingers. Let cool more then give to child to eat! Voila!

They are a sort of congealed semi solid finger that my dd is managing fine. You do need a few goes at getting the consistency right. They can be done in the oven too. And actually I've made them night before and kept in fridge for morning and she liked them cold from fridge.

Its on the blw forum website too.

DrMcDreamysWife Sat 06-Apr-13 04:45:06

www.babyledweaning.com/recipes/breakfast/hub2dees-porridge-pancakes/

Link to more info on porridge fingers/pancakes from blw website

Nicknamefail Sat 06-Apr-13 09:52:50

Thank you DrMcW, they look good. We are going away today so will try them when we get back. Dd reaches the fabled 6mo tomorrow, so I may give her the odd stick of something if I feel like it and am in an establishment that can cope with food being thrown onto the floor but will start properly next week.

sparklekitty Sat 06-Apr-13 10:53:15

Quick question...when did everyone start giving theirs meat? I know I should start with fish and chicken as they're easiest to digest but as a veggie I'm totally clueless on this smile

Andcake Sat 06-Apr-13 11:55:55

Sparklekitty I'm keen to know that too. I'm a veggie but DP isn't but only eats meat out. Ds is 7 mo and I was thinking of giving him meat when I know he is eating iykwim. Although I do get a bit mournful thinking about my little innocent boy eating a dead animal :-( DP is going to take control and do some chicken soon. I worry about cooking something I won't know whether it is done properly.
Latest success btw (and I was checking salt closely) was some carrot and coriander humous from sainsburies we gave him a taste and he wolfed it down and started to try and get his cucumber he'd licked it off back in the pot!

HabitualLurker Sat 06-Apr-13 11:58:43

We had a bit more success this morning in that there was no gagging and puking. Yay.

Toast fingers and strips of omelette. I tried a different kind of bread this time - one from the local bakers with quite loose cakey texture and it dissolved in his mouth much more easily than our usual loaf.

As usual very little got swallowed, but I'm not too bothered by that.

Cucumber and avocado for lunch later on I think!

Kyzordz Sat 06-Apr-13 12:27:33

Poking my nose in, ds is 22 weeks and I don't know what I'm doing still :/ so I'll lurk and gather lots of info from you lovely people if that's ok?

I am paranoid about choking, am booked on a first aid course on 4th may so hopefully I'll feel better after that. I think we'll end up doing a bit of blw and spoon feeding, but it's up to ds really. I have offered him tastes before and he didn't seem interested so I left it

Quak Sat 06-Apr-13 12:31:42

Kyzordz I've just got back from a first aid course and it made me feel a whole lot better. I'd recommend it to anyone, if only just to ease anxieties.

CornishYarg Sat 06-Apr-13 14:30:59

Hello! As a relative veteran at this blw malarkey (DS is nearly 19 months now), I just thought I'd say what we did about introducing meat. I stuck to fruit and veg for maybe a week or so but then I basically went for it and offered a bit of everything on our plate including meat. I definitely didn't worry about waiting a certain number of weeks or until he'd tried a number of other foods before introducing meat, as I just wanted him to have the opportunity to try all sorts of tastes and textures. But as DH and I eat meat, it was obviously a much easier step for us than if we had been vegetarian.

Someone also asked about ham. It's OK to give but obviously very much in moderation due to the salt, so not too much, not too often and balance it out by serving it with non-salty stuff like veg.

Hope you all enjoy the weaning journey!

Voodika Sat 06-Apr-13 14:43:16

My 11 month old still has no teeth so I do some spoon fed food and some finger food so that she can have the biggest range of things possible.
If meat is trick try fish, she loves pieces of salmon, fish fingers without the breadcrumbs and mixed fish pie.
If you boil cooked meat such as pork or chicken in water or salt free stock it makes it really soft for gummy chewing.
Top favourite foods here are bolognaise, kiwi fruit, scrambled eggs, cheese on toast, homemade pancakes, Shreddies (in a bit if milk so thy can still be picked up) and cake. Noodles and spaghetti are fun and if you need time for something to cook peas and sweetcorn keep her occupied and happy for ages!

MyPlugInBaby Sat 06-Apr-13 17:03:16

I'm trying DS on spaghetti bolognese tonight (but with gluten free pasta instead of spaghetti for him) so think we might do the strip before tea thing.

He's been weaning 2 weeks, his first food was a strip of steak! Which he just gummed, but hasn't looked back since. He seems to really love meat, goes mad for it, he has chewed and swallowed a huge chunk of chicken the other day and just wanted more.

I was a little worried he's going too fast, I mean two weeks in and he's actually eating food, and EVERYTHING I give him as well. DD was not like this, she has never had much of an appetite, wasn't interested in food at all!

Made some biscuits for him today: 2tablespoon butter and 2 tablespoons coconut oil melted, mixed with a mashed overripe banana. 4 tablespoons ready brek and enough gluten free flour mix (I used doves farm) - I guess you could use reegular flour but I'm trying to minimise gluten at the moment - to mix to a dough then cut into fingers and baked in the oven. Added 1/2 teaspoon of cinnamon too. He seems to love them so far!

Forgetfulmog Sat 06-Apr-13 19:19:08

Slightlysoup - I gave dd spaghetti with homemade tom sauce this eve. She loved it! She was actually sucking the pasta up & swallowing it! I wonder if it'll come out whole??blush

Forgetfulmog Sat 06-Apr-13 19:20:39

Those biscuits sound good plugin. I'm going to make some sugar free mini banana muffins for dd, will let you know how they go!

MrsNPattz Sat 06-Apr-13 19:41:34

Those biscuits do sound good! Thanks for sharing!

MyPlugInBaby Sat 06-Apr-13 19:48:54

That sounds good too forgetfulmog might do some savoury muffins tomorrow.

Well the pasta didn't go too well, he couldn't pick it up well, I could only get Penne and it was too slippery. He gets awfully upset and frustrated though. If he has finished or can't get something he ends up crying. I don't remember DD being like this at all, let alone at only 6 months!

Andcake Sat 06-Apr-13 19:56:05

Ohh the biscuits sound good. With pasta we found spaghetti was great he thought it was amazing pulling strands apart. Omelette for tea tonight went down v well :-)

slightlysoupstained Sat 06-Apr-13 23:25:12

ForgetfulMog I want to try tomato sauce next, just dreading the cleanup... I guess cream sauces would also be good to try.

Plugin - have found the really big chunky penne was big enough for DS to hold, but it tends to be the fancy expensive stuff! (That was rougher too so not so slippery, at least till I put pesto on it).

DS not keen on anything too small at the mo. I bought some Organix mini cheese biscuits which turned out to be the size of a postage stamp. After failing to get the first one in his mouth he just swept any further ones to the floor rather crossly.

Today was a bit of a loss tho, the only thing he ate was some toasted fruit bread this morning. Been feeding lots to try to stave off mastitis sad

MrsNPattz Sat 06-Apr-13 23:49:32

We had the same problem with those cheese crackers Slightly!!

Forgetfulmog Sun 07-Apr-13 03:39:28

Actually the mess wasn't too bad with tomato - I didn't put much on & we put her in the bath after. She made more mess when she had mashed potato the other day!

Don't know if this is helpful or not but wrt rice cakes, don't bother buying the ones specially made for babies - complete waste of money in my opinion - just buy no salt ones (Kallo make these) & break them up before giving to baby. I also keep a small Tupperware box of them in the changing bag. Also if anyone's Dcs are teething - bickiepegs are really good. They're teething biscuits made without sugar & dd loves them. You can get them from boots.

Quak Sun 07-Apr-13 20:56:10

Success with the porridge cakes! Thanks, DrMcD! (I have actually made them before by accident when I've left my porridge too long in the microwave...)
DD is a week in now. Although she's only swallowed about two times, she's enjoyed playing and squishing the food, so I think we're doing well. I am not waiting to introduce foods one at a time because very little gets into her mouth. So far she's had carrot, squash, broccoli (who knew it broke into such tiny pieces grin), melon, mango, rice cake, the porridge cakes, and a green bean (today in a restaurant!)
I've still a couple of other things to try and one was cheese. BUT, you're not supposed to give them proper cows milk until they are one, right? I have some dairylea triangles. Should I let her play with them? What about regular cheese? What did you do regarding cows milk dairy?? She has no allergies or intolerances so far.

slightlysoupstained Sun 07-Apr-13 21:56:05

Quak I thought the "don't give cows milk" until one was just about not giving it as a drink (i.e. don't try to replace breastmilk/formula with it), rather than avoid it entirely. The advice does sound confusing, that's how I've interpreted it. Anyone?

I've given DS some sticks of cheese (emmental, which was the lowest salt I could find), and grated a few sprinklings onto pasta. He initially enjoyed the sticks of cheese but when it started to break up in his mouth he looked less impressed, don't think he liked the texture and it broke into some quite large lumps. Tried making cheese on toast soldiers but he'd lost patience by then so never got to try them out. (I ate them.)

Good tip re: rice cakes ForgetfulMog, have been buying the little baby ones as they're easy to stuff into the changing bag, but they stain like crazy and am not that keen on everything being covered in sweet stuff. Had rice cakes in the cupboard but it just hadn't occurred to me to put them into a box. Doh!

MrsNPattz - glad it's not just us with the crackers then. Might have to just eat them myself. (BLW is turning into a bit more "I just eat what the baby eats" rather than "He just eats what we eat" at the moment.)

MrsNPattz Sun 07-Apr-13 22:12:35

I think Slightly is right about the cows milk, I'm sure it's ok to use it in meals/cooking etc but not to drink before one. My little man had a dairy intolerance/allergy - he keeps breaking out in a blotchy rash when he has cheese and yoghurt! A hv advised me to avoid, and then try again in a month!

Haha Slightly I know what you mean, sometimes little man does eat what we eat but others he makes do with random finger foods!

MrsNPattz Sun 07-Apr-13 22:13:01

*Has not had!

Pinebarrens Sun 07-Apr-13 22:59:55

oranges.

i forgot how much my DD loved them at the early weaning stage.

just give them a good wash and cut into eighths with the skin on.

DS (6 months at end of March) is loving them, gums them to just skin.

so far his favourites are broccoli, oranges, rice cakes, yogurt, fruit puree (both loaded spoon - very messy), porridge, veggie chilli and bizarrely chicken buhna (home made).

he doesn't seem too keen on carrots or pears or pasta which im surprised about.

i really had forgotten how messy BLW can be.

Forgetfulmog Mon 08-Apr-13 00:36:49

Pinebarrons - oh yes, the mess. There are times when I'm like I literally don't know where to start to clear up grin

Btw you can give cows milk to babies from 6 mo but as someone said (sorry cant check as am on iPhone), you mustn't use it as a replacement for breast/formula milk until the age of 1. So cheese is fine, as is anything made with cows milk (rice pudding etc).

MrsNPattz Mon 08-Apr-13 01:47:51

Yep totally messy! Thanks for tip about oranges, I hadn't thought of those!

AJBthesecond Mon 08-Apr-13 14:58:02

A couple of really daft questions.

Do you bother with plates or just pile onto cleanish high chair?
Just made a cottage pie and absent mindedly put wine in during cooking, baby not really fully started yet but in future should I avoid this?

AJBthesecond Mon 08-Apr-13 15:48:12

Oh and also, is it okay to give food from your plate or should they have their 'own' food?

On reflection these seems like very stupid questions. Oh well, I'm not getting a lot of sleep at the moment, can't imagine why.

Forgetfulmog Mon 08-Apr-13 18:47:27

I put the food straight onto the highchair - if you use a plate, hold onto it otherwise it'll end up flying! I personally wouldn't feed baby from my plate, but mainly because I don't want all my food to end up smooshed! Do whatever you feel comfortable with.

Wine is fine surely as the alcohol will get cooked out? Unless you were planning on giving the baby wine in a sippy cup grin

Andcake Mon 08-Apr-13 20:00:01

I bought plates but they just get thrown on floor so literally use them to transfer his food from kitchen to table. He finds plates more interesting than food. We just put the food on a clean surface in front. I've also found a bib with a trough a blessing.
Mess wise I found really cheap splash mats in a pound store £1.99 really big and easy to wipe down or shake into garden.
A note on oranges - orange gave ds quite bad sore bottom. Saying that I'm now dreading the results of the huge lump of pineapple he wolfed on at tea. I sat frightened he was going to choke but it just disappeared. He had managed to stuff the whole thing in his mouth rather than hold one end and suck like he usually does.
At 7.5 months after starting 6 weeks ago I can say he actually ate/swallowed loads at both meals.

AJBthesecond Mon 08-Apr-13 20:12:18

Wine in a sippy cup? Much better to let it breathe in a plastic mug and drink through a straw. grin

Pinebarrens Mon 08-Apr-13 20:49:54

I've just remembered, last time i had cheap shower curtains from b&q which were machine washable. think they were about £1.50 each. i used them for the early stages then switched to a standard mucky mat.

MrsNPattz Mon 08-Apr-13 22:31:26

I just put food straight on to high chair tray! And I don't really give food from my plate but only because I'm greedy grin

Peanut butter on a crumpet and a banana was successful here today!

Quak Mon 08-Apr-13 22:52:24

Look at these
I thought I had an original idea and was about to build a prototype. Then I did a google image search and someone has already though of it sad
Some foods would really be better of in some sort of bowl and this could stop food/floor/wall catastrophes!

MrsNPattz Tue 09-Apr-13 02:57:24

What a good idea Quak!

Andcake Wed 10-Apr-13 08:48:22

Hi quak I've got v similar plates to those not sure if they are the same brand I got them in morrisons - bloody useless! Have tried them on wooden and plastic tops - bit better on plastic to be fair. They don't really stick and ds spends the whole time trying to move them and ignoring the food!

HabitualLurker Wed 10-Apr-13 09:57:48

I'm going to be doing a bit of spoon feeding too now. The aversion to being fed has gone (I think it was probably connected to the calpol we were shoving into the poor kid's mouth a few days before), and it's much easier to get mashed stuff actually into his mouth than only giving him pre-loaded spoons.

I will continue with giving spoons pre-loaded, but he mostly upends them on the way to his mouth so none of the food actually makes it into him. But practice makes perfect and all that..

Had a really nice meal on Monday where he shared some of our lunch (roasted cauli with pasta) - I'm so pleased that he can join in with mealtimes now.

Also we tried the whole oranges in eights - thanks to whoever suggested that! He couldn't quite get his mouth round them (think the oranges were on the large side!) so I'll try smaller pieces next time cos he was definitely keen!

Am going to give eggy bread a go today. And leftover roasted potatoes, carrots and parsnips too.

Doretaball Wed 10-Apr-13 10:19:49

Hi. Please can I join. DD2 is 6m next week so we're starting on Monday. I think she's been ready for a few weeks but I haven't!!

Tips on here are great.
Thanks v much

slightlysoupstained Thu 11-Apr-13 00:48:35

[waves hello to Doretaball]

Not being terribly inspired at the mo as we've all been ill. Gave DS some mushroom tortelloni the other day and he really enjoyed them. Bit concerned that they're really rather high in salt so may stick to only giving them as an occasional treat - they are quite a nice easy shape to hold though. Mushroom risotto today which he seemed to slurp down with great enthusiasm - I guess he likes mushroom (for now anyway).

Question: how do you tell when they've had enough? Wondering if I'm stopping meals a bit too early sometimes - if DS starts just chucking everything I hand him on the floor it's easy to tell, but sometimes doesn't seem as clear.

MrsNPattz Thu 11-Apr-13 01:23:23

My little man usually starts to whinge and cry when he's had enough!

His little face today when he tried Mango was a picture, like he was sucking lemons grin

FadBook Thu 11-Apr-13 06:19:39

With salt content, try and look at what they've had over several days, rather than just one meal. It makes more sense as you're not then avoiding meals, but are more cautious.

I used (and still do) allow about 45-60 min for dinner. Don't be too hung about what they eat with what. Dd would eat some dinner, then go on to fruit, then back to dinner, then some Greek yoghurt, bit more dinner and more fruit. I personally couldn't eat bollanaise, yogurt and pear but babies couldn't care less- it's about them choosing what the want.

I used to ask if she'd finished and do a sign for this; she picked this up very early and would signal to me when she had finished.

HabitualLurker Thu 11-Apr-13 07:10:21

FadBook, good tips for knowing when they're finished. I was wondering this myself and I think possibly we haven't been giving long enough.

We a really nice lunchtime yesterday. Leftover roast veg from the night before - carrot, parsnip and potatoes. And some brocolli. I thought he'd like parsnip since it's quite sweet, but it wasn't a hit. Maybe the dense texture is a bit difficult to get through.

At the moment cucumber sticks are the firm favourite. Easy to hold, and he really enjoys gumming them thoroughly.

One question to you lot - what does your LO think of water? Mine loves it - so much so that I'm not sure whether to give him as much as he asks for. If his sippy cup is in view when he's eating then he'll whinge at it until he gets some. I think he'd drink the whole thing if we let him (well, I say drink, but most of it ends up down his front). How much do you give yours?

Nicknamefail Thu 11-Apr-13 07:52:21

Warning, TMI post!

Found a piece of pepper in dd's poo this am! Can't believe she swallowed something. Hurray!

Forgetfulmog Thu 11-Apr-13 08:51:18

Habitual - I give dd 1-2cm of cool boiled water at most meals. I believe too much can cause stomach upsets & she gets her milk feed before or after meals anyway. I tend to only offer water after a meal (keep it out of sight during meal), but will offer it during if she's eating a lot of stodgy food (eg mash)

Quak Thu 11-Apr-13 10:19:11

Habitual - dd does not like water at all. She loves playing with the tommytipee cup but looks horrified when water comes out of it! I would have though water could fill them up too much so you're probably doing the right thing taking it away. Perhaps give him an empty cup to play with once he's had his fill - it might just be he wants the cup, like I said, my dd likes sucking on the spout so he might just be happy with that??

HabitualLurker Thu 11-Apr-13 10:26:35

Yes Quak I think part of it is actually enjoying sucking on the spout and giving it a good gumming, so I'll let him have a go with the empty cup.

Forgetfulmog I wasn't bothering to boil the water, just giving tap water. Do we still need to be boiling?

Andcake Thu 11-Apr-13 10:28:50

My ds hates water- we get the yuk face! I'm trying frequently. Another fan of cucumber here and he likes it with humous or soft cheese loaded on. When ds is finished he tends to start picking things up and plonking them over the side one by one instead of putting anything near his mouth :-)

Forgetfulmog Thu 11-Apr-13 10:40:24

Oh not sure about the boiled water <looks round hopefully at other more experienced mnetters>

Forgetfulmog Thu 11-Apr-13 10:44:10

My friend emailed this link today - lots of useful info about baby food.

[http://www.homemade-baby-food-recipes.com/sitemap.html]

Forgetfulmog Thu 11-Apr-13 10:44:44
FadBook Thu 11-Apr-13 10:46:34

After 6 months, you don't need cooled boiled water, use tap water. You LO's are now crawling on the floor and probably picking it various bugs / germs, so water out of taps in the UK are more than ok smile A HV did tell me to be aware of bottled water because of the sodium content but if I have given bottled water before now when I'm not organised and have forgotten DD's sippy cup whilst out and about grin

Forgetfulmog Thu 11-Apr-13 10:50:25

Thanks fadbook smile

MrsNPattz Thu 11-Apr-13 13:22:59

I have lost inspiration a bit sad feel like I'm not sure what to give him and end up giving him boring things like breadsticks, fruit etc. we can't give him dairy which I'm struggling with, and am struggling to get protein into him. Off to have a luck at that link, thanks!

Forgetfulmog Thu 11-Apr-13 14:02:57

Dd can't have dairy either & she's allergic to eggs so I'm struggling mainly for breakfast stuff. She used to love porridge but now she doesn't really like being fed so that's not really a popular choice for her. Don't want to give her toast everyday because of the salt. Going to make her some eggless pancakes I think & see how they go down

DrMcDreamysWife Thu 11-Apr-13 14:18:39

Mmm I've not offered protein everyday yet. Although my dd can have eggs and dairy. She loves eggy bread and omelette cut into fingers.

Avocado is high in protein and my dd loves it! Either sliced if its not too soft or spread on toast or pitta bread if its squishy.

Forgetfulmog Thu 11-Apr-13 14:56:51

Dd can't have dairy either & she's allergic to eggs so I'm struggling mainly for breakfast stuff. She used to love porridge but now she doesn't really like being fed so that's not really a popular choice for her. Don't want to give her toast everyday because of the salt. Going to make her some eggless pancakes I think & see how they go down

PurpleBlossom Thu 11-Apr-13 15:41:50

Hello, still lurking in the background waiting for that magic '6th month' to come around (2 weeks to go) so u can join in properly!

In the mean time I've been collecting fun (and probably pointless) weaning equipment! grin

So far I have

- a high chair, DD looks very cute and grown up in (sob!)
- a magic mat/ bowl, non slip!
- this for out and about.
- bowl and spoon

I also want some little pots, which again I know I don't need, but desperately want for some unknown reason!

PurpleBlossom Thu 11-Apr-13 15:44:05

Oh, I also have a BLW cookbook, which I am finding useful for ideas!

MrsNPattz Thu 11-Apr-13 15:59:11

Will try Avocado and eggy bread - thank you! Going to try hummus too I think.

Quak Thu 11-Apr-13 19:23:32

ForgetfulMog - look further up the thread for the instructions to make porridge cakes. Then if your dd wants to feed herself porridge she can. They're a hit in our house! What about fruit for brekkie? Or a weetabix (messy!) You could maybe make your own bread and miss out the salt?? (Easier said than done eh? - And I say this as someone who has no intention of ever making their own bread)

ThreeWheelsGood Thu 11-Apr-13 22:04:17

Hello all, I've just had a read and I'd like to join. DD is 24 weeks and showing signs of readiness, so we gave her somebanana and roast carrot tonight. She played with it and mushed it, don't think any got into her mouth! As someone up thread said, we were surprised because everything else (not food) usually goes straight in! We're going to build up gradually, we need to think about how to adapt our meals so we can just all share. I'm another vegetarian attempting to bring up a non veggie baby so wish me luck!

Forgetfulmog Fri 12-Apr-13 18:41:50

Made dd a chicken & sweet potato curry from that website & she loved it! We've now been given the go ahead to give her dairy too so will try some yoghurt for breakfast tomorrow.

Thanks for the tip on porridge fingers - I had tried making them with cooked, puréed plums instead of milk & they weren't a hit so will try then with milk instead.

Doretaball Fri 12-Apr-13 19:38:23

After reading the thread, I decided to start yesterday. DD2 seems to be really enjoying it and DD1 loves having her at the table. Tried cucumber, toast, carrot, mixed salad (she loved the rocket!) and lasagne! She sucked off the sauce but left the pasta, I was very impressed!

Will try porridge fingers tomorrow for breakfast.

Are the BLW cookbooks worth getting? I'm hoping for a few ideas.

I am a bit nervous about her choking. I'm going to geek up on baby first aid on Internet tonight. Any tips for websites?

YokoUhOh Fri 12-Apr-13 20:05:11

2 weeks to go for us - or so I thought! DS grabbed a sweet potato chip off my plate and smushed it into his mouth earlier, and then did the same with some baked salmon. Quite literally baby-led!!

Awakeagain Fri 12-Apr-13 20:52:37

We've just started this week and ds seems to be living it!
Has anyone used the tiny diner mat - someone mentioned it and someone else linked to amazon (sorry I can't remember names sad)
I have seen it on amazon and thought it looked good for messy foods when out and about and there is no high chair tray

I have also got it into my head (from somewhere) no eggs till 1. I knew egg was ok if cooked in something like a cake but seeing all the eggy bread suggestions have made me more excited about breakfast if its alright to do it.

The gagging noise is awful, I'm just do worried every time I hear him do it

Ds's favourite so far is strawberry I think grin

Quak Fri 12-Apr-13 21:00:11

Hi TWG - nice name.
Yep, my dd 'eats' everything but wouldn't put the food in her mouth for a couple of days. It's quite amazing really how instinctive it is for them. The food is new so they are naturally wary. After a week she is much more confident, and coordinated too.
Doretaball - choking was such a huge concern for me. Both myself and dh did a baby first aid course. However after watching her with food choking seems very, very unlikely. So long as she is upright, we give her safe foods and we don't interfere with what she's doing the risks are minimal. But we both are confident that we could recognise real choking and deal with it. Look at St John Ambulance or Red Cross websites. They are high profile voices on first aid.

Pinebarrens Fri 12-Apr-13 21:01:42

Corn on the cob and roast potatoes for DS tonight. Then he had a good old gum at a plum that DD didn't want.

Going to try the porridge fingers tomorrow.

MrsNPattz Fri 12-Apr-13 22:51:05

Eggy bread was a big success here thank you! Although I did notice he got a plotchy rash like he does with dairy but not as bad - is it common to be intolerant to both?

Forgetfulmog Sat 13-Apr-13 02:18:36

Yes it is Mrspatz - soy is another one with similar proteins that may be a problem. We can't give dd eggs either - she vomits them up.

ThreeWheelsGood Sat 13-Apr-13 04:38:49

Right then, I'm bit unsure what to do - we've had two "meals" (mostly played with, sucked on, not sure if she actually swallowed any), both with her sat at the table with us in the evening. She has been sleeping through (10-12 hours) since 3 months old (not stealth boast sorry), but last night andtonight she has woken at 4am for a BF. Anyone else found this? Maybe she isn't ready for solids?

We have the tiny diner mat and like it so far. It means she effectively shares the table with us.

Awakeagain Sat 13-Apr-13 08:03:16

Thanks 3 wheels
I really liked the look of it for eating out so might have to get one

DrMcDreamysWife Sat 13-Apr-13 11:10:07

Ooo those mats look good. We've had a few lunches out where basically she's eaten out of my hand and I've ended up with food all over me.

3 wheels how old is your wee one? I don't think it's necsessarily a sign of not being ready for solids, have you given solids instead of a feed? And therefore she's waking up to make up for it? Or it could be a growth spurt?

I general I started by doing solids and hour after bf and then offered again an hour after meal. She rarely went more than 2 hours between feeds before solids. Although I'm not the best person to ask as my dd still wakes a trillion times a night for a wee bf snack!! Pain the beautiful bum she is...

MrsNPattz Sun 14-Apr-13 07:33:39

How are your little ones sleeping at night?

Quak Sun 14-Apr-13 07:51:11

The same as before, i.e. waking several times a night, though her waking isn't to do with hunger. smile

Andcake Sun 14-Apr-13 10:35:06

Just wanted to share something that we had on our toast for breakfast - I say we as I think I'm a bit addicted too now :-) a friend suggested it as an alternative to jam. It's called sunwheel 100% fruit spread. I got it in holland and Barrett the pear and apricot flavour. The h&b site seems not to be working but here is a blog link I found about it pudhogblog.wordpress.com/2013/04/02/rated-sunwheel-fruit-spread/
Now we've had it on toast I'm trying to think of how to use it in other things maybe in porridge or on rice cakes.

Sleep wise ds has always been bad but I think it got worse when we started weaning as he had less time for milk so fed a lot at night. I think only recently we've turned a corner but mostly through cosleeping.

TallGiraffe Sun 14-Apr-13 10:59:42

Hi all, can I join? We've been BLW for 2 weeks now and loving it, despite the horrified looks from family members! Pitta bread and hummus is definitely the favourite so far. But orange, avocado and quiche all seem to have made it through to the nappy too grin

MsJupiterJones Sun 14-Apr-13 16:58:31

Hi everyone, can I join please? DS is 5.5 months (24 wks) and we started sitting him at the table with us a week ago. He is very strong in his neck and loves being upright but he does wobble a bit so we've shored him up with a rolled up towel. He has all the other weaning signs in place though.

I put a couple of bits of carrot on his tray yesterday just to include him (which he ignored), but today he grabbed a stick of cucumber and kind of nommed all the bits off it!

I wasn't planning to start before 26 wks but I guess we will keep offering bits and seeing what happens.

Forgetfulmog Mon 15-Apr-13 12:26:29

Welcome newcomers!

I'm after a bit of advice. Dd is now 7 months & for the last week or so hasn't been that interested in solid food. She's now refusing things that she would wolf down before & mealtimes usually end up in her whinging & slouching down in her high chair (think moody teenager!). She's very into sticks of apple (think she's teething & they're cooling on her gums. If I offer her food she tends to refuse it & anything on her tray tends to end up on the floor or smooshed into the highchair. Is it just the teething that's making her grumpy??

ThreeWheelsGood Mon 15-Apr-13 15:44:29

Second attempt at banana yesterday was great, she properly nibbled some off and swallowed! Her faces of confusion were great. The (white) babygrow she had on is now all stained though (washed it this morning) - never mind!

Drmcdreamy - thanks for your reply. I thought it might be a growth spurt. She slept through again last night. We have deduced that she has grown out of her up-to-six-months sleep bag and it was prob waking her up when she rolled over in her sleep! blush

Going to try houmous and pitta later. At 25 weeks old we are just trying one meal a day, is that ok do you think? Otherwise I feel like we'd be eating all the time...

ThreeWheelsGood Mon 15-Apr-13 15:47:49

Another question - has anyone been to a children's centre weaning info session, and was it useful?

ThreeWheelsGood Mon 15-Apr-13 15:50:09

MsJupiterJones - that's exactly what we're doing, propping her up in the highchair with a cushion, putting some bits and bobs in front of her to let her play. It works well for us as we know she'll only swallow if she's ready!

Andcake Mon 15-Apr-13 16:57:03

MsJupiterJones - same here it took a few days to a week for things to be swallowed. Cucumber is definitely a good place to start. Ds ate v little at first but. at 7.5 months we really turned a corner and I feel he is eating well having 2 meals a day :-) nappies become so interesting in the early blw days as you discover what has really gone through. But now (tmi) he just has grown up poo.

I did only one meal a day for the first few weeks as actually ds got a v runny tummy when in the early days I started with two. I then backed off a bit.

Forgetfulmog- we have days where he seems less interested sometimes I think he just is too tired, still full of milk or distracted. Teething tended to chomping on v hard things like cucumber.

TallGiraffe Mon 15-Apr-13 17:06:03

It really varies day by day here as to how much he actually consumes. I just keep chanting "food is fun until you're 1" on days when he doesn't et anything!

TallGiraffe Mon 15-Apr-13 17:06:29

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Forgetfulmog Mon 15-Apr-13 18:31:06

Thanks Andcake. I think I'm just over thinking things really - even on the days where I think she doesn't have much, her poo is still like you described so she must be getting something!

Bit of a success this evening; dd had:

A breadstick
Some watercress
Some mashed up gigantes plakis
Some lightly fried potato
Some asparagus

& she loved it all!

MrsNPattz Mon 15-Apr-13 18:54:04

My little man does not like tea time, he barely touches anything. He is pretty good at the other two meals though. He loves cucumber!

DrMcDreamysWife Mon 15-Apr-13 19:05:30

My dd loves cucumber too. On the same lines she loves courgettes, lightly fried in olive oil. Sucks all the flesh off and spits out the skin.

We had lots of fun tonight with spaghetti! We'd done pasta before, twists, but spaghetti is so much better!! She had so much fun playing with it and stuffing it in her mouth to suck off the sauce!!

At lunch she had mango which went down well too, I cut it with my new best friend...a crinkle cutter...it's great for making slippy things easier to hold. I totally recommend getting one.

I love this weaning malarkey, it's so fun. And the best part is dh cleans the highchair/floor while I do the bedtime feed! Tee hee!!

Quak Mon 15-Apr-13 20:06:59

You know, I have tried getting a crinkle cutter in shops - have scoured everywhere but no luck. It'll have to be amazon. Although it's quite funny watching the slippery fruit and veg ping about, and her confusion about it!

Does anyone else's dc overload their mouth? Sometimes DD gradually builds up a fair bit of food in there but doesn't swallow it. I doubt she could either so she just bleurgh's it out. Today she cried out, I think because her mouth was too full shock Her little face was so sad.

More experienced BLWers - we are not yet 2 weeks in, should I try giving her a spoon and something runnier (beans/yogurt) yet? Or stick with things she can directly hold still....? I am not sure she would understand though.

Fadbook have you always allowed that long for meals? DD has had enough after about 10 minutes at the moment. Maybe her concentration span isn't developed enough yet? (6.5mths)

I'm not sure I would call it fun yet. And I keep forgetting about meals here and there. We have no proper routine (dh shift work/different activities on different days etc) and sometimes I forget to do a lunch or a dinner. I have never personally bothered with regular meals - I'm going to have to set alarms I think!

FadBook Mon 15-Apr-13 21:39:55

Quak - it varies, honestly. Definitely for the evening meal, dp and I have always tended to 'linger' around the table and chat about our day. We noticed that she'd have a break from food, and then go back to it and end up polishing the lot off grin

For breakfast/lunch probably about half an hour.

My friends all have more than one child so they tell me I'm lucky because I haven't got a school run or other kids to think about in the morning and/or clock watching grin

From the beginning, I taught her a "finish" sign (not sure if its the official sign language for it - just shook my hands from side to side and said "finished") she picked this up quite quickly to be honest; so there was pushing food away and coming back to it and then the "finished" sign and I knew she'd be definitely done!

MsJupiterJones Mon 15-Apr-13 22:22:18

Thanks for replies.

Fadbook that is a really good idea about the "finished" sign although I don't think DS gets signs at all yet. But I am making a note of it!

We got a crinkle cutter from Amy's if any of you have one near you. They always seem to have everything.

slightlysoupstained Tue 16-Apr-13 00:06:59

Good idea with the signs Fadbook. I've been trying to remember to sign "more" and "full" (which is basically flicking the tips of your fingers against the underneath of your chin - like the gesture people make when they say "I've had it up to here!") - DS doesn't seem to recognise them yet but I figure that I need to get myself into the habit and at some point he will.

Crinkle cutters - I use a biscuit cutter, if you can't find a proper crinkle cutter thingy. (A rectangular one not a round one).

TallGiraffe: "It really varies day by day here as to how much he actually consumes. I just keep chanting "food is fun until you're 1" on days when he doesn't eat anything!"

I tell myself that I am not trying to feed DS, we are just doing messy play with stuff I don't need to worry about him eating by accident. That somehow makes it fun to watch him carefully pulling apart his fruit bread, transferring it from hand to hand, dropping it, picking it up again, etc, instead of stressful because it's not going into mouth.

Andcake Tue 16-Apr-13 10:03:37

Approaching it as messy play is definitely the right approach. Ds definitely starts and stops... If he loses interest I get something else out like a piece of fruit. We usually sit for about 30 mins - I have something and a nice big cup of tea!
Quak with sloppy stuff I think we started it after about 2 weeks but we cheat a little I hold the spoon and he leans his head forward the after a few spoonfuls I give him the spoon- the food then goes everywhere. When he first leans forward he does a little connoisseur face contemplating it :-) we don't give him alot of sloppy stuff a lot to be fair mostly just yogurt ( I eat one at his tea time with a baby spoon and offer him spoonfuls (just full fat Rachel's in different flavours) and some left over home made soup. I like this recipe and he seems to like it to www.bbcgoodfood.com/recipes/1974663/curried-squash-lentil-and-coconut-soup
Sneaking protein in via lentils.
This mornings breakfast wheetabix with whole milk absorbed in then cut into two fingers went down well but a v yucky mess.
Also tesco direct has the tiny diner mat for about £3 I've got one delivered to my local shop so no delivery either :-)

HabitualLurker Tue 16-Apr-13 12:00:18

We've had a good few days of trying things out here. I'd say in the 4 weeks or so since we started he's definitely getting more interested and better at swallowing and not gagging.

He'd gone off being spoon-fed porridge, so I made some extra-thick stuff with some cashew nut butter mixed in and he seemed to enjoy picking that up and feeding himself. It was very messy though!

I've bought rice cakes (mainly as an easy thing to feed him when we're out and about since they're reasonably clean) and he likes them a lot. I'm trying not to give them when we're at home though, seing as they're not exactly all that nutritious.

We tried cut up orange with skin on again and he loved that (much like cucumber!). Cooked apple was less popular. Ripe pear went down well.

The surprise hit was plain yoghurt. He usually isn't keen on being spoon fed at all. Will grab the spoon and try and feed himself, but ends up putting his fingers in the bowl and swiping most of the food off accidently. Well, not so for yoghurt! He made the most fantastic 'man that's sour' face, and then opened his mouth wide and swooped in for more! Seems to love it. It's so funny watching his face as he eats it.

Nicknamefail Tue 16-Apr-13 15:58:05

Feeling a but down about weaning. Only being going about ten days, but today she kept making a slightly distressed noise during breakfast and lunch. Still put stuff in, but nothing swallowed.
Also went to be weighed today and the beast has dropped from 50th to the 25th.
Finding the whole planning and cleaning difficult too. Today, dc will only be held, so can't get anything done.
Only good thing today us that the HV made me laugh by saying blw is fine, but why don't you try some baby rice as well, and put vitamins on a spoon with ebm. Because I am friggin trying to avoid crappy baby rice and silly spoons!

MrsNPattz Tue 16-Apr-13 17:54:52

Nicknamefail I know how you feel - I get down about it too! I wish he could just have milk forever lol but I keep plodding on and it's so lovely seeing him trying new things and making a mess and it's just weaning in general for me, I think I would feel this way if I was pureeing. Keep going!

Forgetfulmog Tue 16-Apr-13 18:37:38

Nickname - dont worry, I think everyone feels that way at some point during the weaning process. Today was a not great day, but tomorrow could be different. Dd might be teething, which could explain her needing to be held. I'm pretty sure I read somewhere once that sometimes babies do lose a little weight when they're weaning & they're more active as well, which of course burns off calories. If you're concerned, try offering more higher fat foods like avocado or nut butters (if you have a good food processor you could make your own). Also 25th centile is absolutely fine. smile

Nicknamefail Tue 16-Apr-13 21:38:36

Thanks MrsNPattz and Forgetfullmog, I, am feeling a little as the beast tried mango at dinner which went down well.
Hopefully she will give me a good nights sleep and by that I mean only wake up 4 times and then bring on tomorrow. I will also try nut butters. once I find out what this is

Doretaball Tue 16-Apr-13 22:43:19

Agree with the good days and bad days my DD2 cried at all three of her meals today. Do you think maybe I'm overdoing it going straight to 3 meals? It's just that I sit her at the table when I'm giving DD1 her meals.

Got new blender today so going to make some hummus tomorrow. Any good recipes?

Forgetfulmog Wed 17-Apr-13 07:41:00

Nut butters - peanut butter, cashew butter etc. if you have a good food processor you can grind the whole nuts (shelled) until it becomes a paste (ie but butter).

Nicknamefail Wed 17-Apr-13 10:39:24

Nut butters- sounds very yum. I shall try some after the next shop.

Is anyone else's dc taking less milk now weaning has started? The beast usually has lots over night finishing with a 5 am feed, and then used to eat at 8.30. Today she had some porridge and water to drunk at this time (although barely had any) but didn't have any milk till 10am. Feels like a long time to me.

I don't think she's taking enough food to drop a milk feed yet.

DrMcDreamysWife Wed 17-Apr-13 16:53:23

Hi all.... Sorry to hear some people have been feeling down sad . I don't think weaning is linear, I think they can go forwards and backwards. My dd has been slightly off her food the last 2 days, after a run of lots of success sad.

I think she is dropping day milk feeds a bit but then asking for lots at night...she's always fed a lot over night but getting a bit sore in the day as the monkey would prefer real food to milk!?

Bought a butternut squash this morning but have no idea what to do with it...any tips??

Forgetfulmog Wed 17-Apr-13 16:55:41

Roast it with black pepper & cumin seeds. You could then add the pieces to a risotto or pasta sauce or curry smile

MrsNPattz Wed 17-Apr-13 18:16:43

We love it roasted too!

Little man hasn't really dropped feeds but definitely spends less time on the boob! He makes up for it at night though!! He's done well today food wise smile

Nicknamefail Wed 17-Apr-13 21:53:43

Toasted squash sounds yummy and easy to hold too. The beast loves mango and melon, but drops it a lot.

Today I cheated and gave her some pear purée as someone had given us some of those Ella's pouches. In my defense I gave her a preloaded spoon and let her put it in her mouth herself. She loved it, the bugger. Back to proper blw tomorrow, she can have leftover pasta that I just ate, and know I am about to fry banana drop scones for breakfast!

Oh, and glad to hear others have monster milk babies at night. Fed an insane amount last night.

Nicknamefail Wed 17-Apr-13 21:54:19

Oh pants, burnt butter whilst typing. Start again!

MrsNPattz Thu 18-Apr-13 09:41:17

Has anyone tried their little ones with fish yet? If so what did you give them? I don't like it apart from Tuna but I don't want little man to miss out!

Andcake Thu 18-Apr-13 11:25:34

We're considering fish here too. I saw a friend give her baby bits of salmon. All fish except white fish makes me gag (particularly tuna) so DP will be in charge if its that. But I've heard people say waitrose fish fingers or homemade beefed fish fingers are good. There is a recipe in the blw cookbook. DP suggested crab sticks but I'm not to sure as I've never eaten them and thought they were processed rubbish so I plan to look on a pack in shop today.

TallGiraffe Thu 18-Apr-13 12:47:30

Let me know how you get on with the fish! I don't eat meat or fish, but DH does so it'll only happen when he's around. I don't mind cooking meat but hate the fishy smell envy

Hi can I join? I tried BLW but DD didn't take to it as had stopped putting things in her mouth before 6 months, very disappointed. sad So we had to go the spoon fed route. We've always given her finger food since 6 months but she's never figured it out. Can't just leave her to feed herself as she eats with us & gets REALLY upset if we don't feed her.
She's nearly 1 year old & seems pretty bright in other things (couple of words in correct context, climbs the stairs without help, we obviously stand right behind her) so I don't think she's 'slow'. I don't think it's am issue with not liking food, she eats everything we give her. Is there anyone in the group with an older child or any experience of this, need help please!

Forgetfulmog Thu 18-Apr-13 12:56:59

Dd loves tuna! I've also made a white fish with rice thing & she wolfed that down too! Have sea bass in the freezer too

Forgetfulmog Thu 18-Apr-13 12:58:11

Crab sticks are absolutely disgusting - they are processed shite & have the taste of salty flehm. Yuk

violetta555 Thu 18-Apr-13 13:59:54

Hello fellow BLWers, I would like to join!

By a happy coincidence I have just (1 hour ago) given DD her first taste of white fish. It was part of a frozen pollack fillet that I'd baked in the oven with some courgettes etc. Obviously it all flaked to pieces when she grabbed it but she made a pretty good effort to stuff it in!

I also have a question - how do you give your DCs their vitamins? Will they take them off a spoon for you?

batteryhen Thu 18-Apr-13 14:08:37

Hello again. I have been stressing about BLW as DS just doesn't seem to eat much but lunch today was a bit more successful. He had avocado, Papya, cheese and cucumber.
When I do fish I have done fish fingers and taken the coating off. I have also given him salmon.
Tonight is roasted veg, and chicken.
I do struggle with breakfast though. What does everyone else do?

slightlysoupstained Thu 18-Apr-13 14:32:13

Hi 50shades, DS is my first so no experience here, hoping someone else might be able to advise? I guess as long as there is finger food around she may try it sometime, but no ideas on how to coax her into it.

Violetta I tried a spoon with DS and he dribbled it all back out again (also the dose was 2.5 ml which sounds tiny but actually seemed like quite a lot for him to swallow & not dribble). So I got vitamin drops instead. They come with a tiny (0.5 ML) syringe. What I do is to let DS put the end of it in his mouth but I keep hold (& try to keep it pointed sideways) so he can't accidentally jab the back of his throat with it, and gradually push the syringe in to dribble bits into his mouth as he slurps and chews it. It takes a little longer but actually seems to stay in that way and I'm not just shoving it in his gob! He seems to enjoy it anyway.

Am hoping that by the time we've finished the drops, he'll be ready to take a spoonful. I do give him some things on a spoon, so he's gradually getting the hang of putting it into his mouth & licking the food off.

battery At the mo breakfast is always fruit loaf. Not morning people so tend to just have a cuppa, so if we have a slice of toasted fruit loaf DS will eat some with us. There doesn't seem that long between when he's up for the day a.d first nap so figure I'll focus on giving him some variety at lunchtime.

Kyzordz Thu 18-Apr-13 14:46:34

Hey all,

I've been feeding ds breakfast for a week and a half now, I know it's not blw but I am pleased he can do the swallowing thing! Ive tried tea this week, since Monday and he is not happy with tea, does not like puréed veg whatsoever. I really want to give him stuff to eat himself so today I but the bullet and did chip sized cucumber fingers. First he threw them at me, and eventually was nomming on them! Was so surprised! But then he got a chunk of cucumber off and I totally panicked and took it out of his mouth! All I thought is what if he chokes? What would I do? I need to let him swallow it don't I.

Anyway I got mango and papaya and melon today, do I cut these up like chips too and just let him get on with it? The way of doing oranges with the skin on sounds a good idea, I want to try that but he had mild reflux when tiny and don't want to aggravate it if he's still like it.

Feel free to tell me how rediculous I am, I know blush

I've loved reading your blw stories and have a bit of inspiration now. I will still spoon feed breakfast at least for now but when he's old enough I'll maybe be brave enough to try toast or something else. Am struggling for variety ATM, am trying to avoid too much processed stuff in jars/boxes

Any tips for breakfast for now (am assuming no dairy etc as under 6 months, 23 weeks now)? He has had baby porridge, rusk and banana rusk don't shoot me

Thanks smile

TallGiraffe Thu 18-Apr-13 16:48:20

DS happily takes his vitamins off a spoon, it's only 5 drops though (NHS ones for Northern babies) and he's had them since 5 weeks old. We use a special yellow spoon that we don't use for food too.

French toast was a big hit for breakfast this morning.

Forgetfulmog Thu 18-Apr-13 17:07:02

Kyzordz - babies have a very good gag reflex which brings food to the front if the mouth if they try to swallow it & it's too big. My dd bites of large chunks of apple - in fact she often ends up with a mouthful - she doesn't swallow any of it & just spits it back out.

I was the same as you when I started weaning her & panicking when she had non-squishy food in her mouth, but then I witnesses the gag reflex & realised how effective it is. That said I am aware that choking can kill so I keep a first aid book in the kitchen & have read up on what to do when a baby chokes (I hope I never have to use it). It's good to be aware of the dangers. In fact putting your fingers in a babys mouth can be really dangerous as you could accidentally push the food down the babys throat. Make sure you never leave your baby unattended with food.

Sorry, I realise I've probably completely freaked you out - that wasn't my intention!

Forgetfulmog Thu 18-Apr-13 17:09:30

Sorry kyzordz, I've just realised your DS is under 6 months & not sure if what I've told you is relevant for a baby under 6 months. Help someone??!

MrsNPattz Thu 18-Apr-13 17:20:25

Thanks for the fish ideas! Will leave hubby in charge cause he 'does' fish lol

Do you guys give puddings? I spoke to a very helpful hv at booby group this afternoon about little mans night feed, and she also mentioned giving him puddings like apple pie and custard to get the calories in?? Not sure about this!

Also, we haven't been given vitamins, should we have?

MsJupiterJones Thu 18-Apr-13 17:26:06

Hi Kyz <waves>

I think citrus is not recommended under 6 months either - feel free to correct me anyone if I'm wrong.

I tried mango this morning but it just wasn't ripe enough, think I will give it a few more days in the fruit bowl! But yes just do chips. DS has only gagged once and is swallowing some banana and avocado. I am going to do a first aid course so I am more confident in case there is any actual choking but I keep reminding myself the gag reflex is there to protect him from that.

We went out today and DS ate some avocado from my plate. However, although he is able to pick up food and put it in his mouth, he seems to prefer eating from my hand which is obviously not the aim. If I pick up a stick of banana to encourage him his head dives in like a little bird! Anyone else find this?

YokoUhOh Thu 18-Apr-13 17:29:32

MsJJ yes, DS (not quite 6mo) would rather eat sitting on my knee, while I give him the odd thing from my plate. I'm thinking of putting him in his high chair, letting him watch us eat, and then giving him something after a few minutes; don't know whether or not this will work...

Forgetfulmog Thu 18-Apr-13 17:30:17

Dd has vitamins, but only because she was prem. she has 0.3 ml via a syringe.

Haven't given her puddings apart from fruit so don't know about that, but it does seen a bit weird!

Kyzordz Thu 18-Apr-13 17:38:29

Thanks all - I will avoid the orange for now then jj smile I am booked on an nct 1st aid course too for 4th may, it was supposed to be before now but it was when we had snow (march?) and it got cancelled. I'm hoping this helps put my mind at ease.

I spoon fed him purée again for tea but he didn't have much, it was sweet potato, apple and parsnip with runny mashed potato. He had maybe 3 spoons, it was very sweet but he's not fussed with it. He loves breakfast though. Baby steps I keep telling myself, baby steps smile I will let the mango and papaya ripen and do some chips. The bit of cucumber i fished out of his mouth wasn't very big but it was my natural instinct blush.

Can I do him sticks of banana then too? He loved mashed banana when he tried it, and puréed pear (he had the tiniest bit about a fortnight maybe ago)

I think my problem is I keep trying to think of hard things for him to gum almost as though I am trying to make sure he can't break a chunk to choke on it but then obviously he won't be actually eating anything if I do that :/

MsJupiterJones Thu 18-Apr-13 17:39:21

Oh and talking of fish, the avocado he had was from a crab salad so I suddenly worried in case he turned out to have an allergy but fortunately it seems not. I'm sticking to fruit & veg until he is 6 months next week - we have a meeting with the hospital as he has CMPI so hopefully will get some advice on how to tackle that when weaning.

By the way it was naice crab, no sticks!

Andcake Thu 18-Apr-13 22:07:45

We won't try crab sticks then :-) I just know nothing about fish and meat. I think DP was just thinking the finger shape I've never seen him eat them either.

Pudding here is yogurt or fruit. I have bought some apples to do baked apples as I love them

Breakfast here is toast or wheetabix slightly wet from milk cut into two fingers (you could use bm or formula to avoid dairy), banana, I've tried porridge fingers with no joy.

My fail this week has been cauliflower mac and cheese (without bacon and no salt added) its something we have a lot and I thought with big pasta and little cauliflower trees it would be a winner but basically got spat and pushed away.

http://www.strandsofmylife.com/jamie-olivers-30-minute-cauliflower-macaroni-cheese/

I even tried some left overs the next day as well and got the same response.

Must admit when this happens I usually just offer fruit, avocado or a breadstick to try and make sure he eats something as at e moment he is going all night without milk.

Nicknamefail Thu 18-Apr-13 22:08:26

Hello baby led weaners,, a word of warning about pouching. I thought dd had an empty mouth tonight, then after dinner, we were playing peek a boo in a mirror, and then, when she smiled, a piece of carrot popped out then back in again. I didn't fish it out as I wanted to see what would happen, but obviously didn't put her on her back. It didn't come out for 40 minutes! So beware.

Andcake Fri 19-Apr-13 09:20:36

Good tip nicknamefail we've had hidden food a few times. At the end of every meal I try and make him open his mouth by going ahhh at him. He usually only smiles rather than repeats and I can see!

dickiedoodah Fri 19-Apr-13 11:37:12

I need to join this. My nearly 7 month old DD is not enjoying spoon feeding and refuses to swallow. I think BLW is the way forward for us but no one else around me believes in it. She has a couple of teeth through and I've been giving her bits of fruit which she wants to bite. I'm terrified about choking though so haven't had the confidence to really let her put anything in her mouth. I know I just need to read up on how to help her if she chokes and go for it because she clearly wants whats on offer.

Kyzordz Fri 19-Apr-13 13:44:17

Hi dickie I'm the same re choking, just can't get my head around it! Maybe do a first aid course like others have suggested, I have booked a place on one for early may

TallGiraffe Fri 19-Apr-13 15:08:05

There are some good videos online about infant choking first aid that might make you feel more confident. Worth a google...

Nicknamefail Fri 19-Apr-13 18:39:48

Dickie, fear if choking is natural and other poster (sorry, can't see name- on phone) is right to suggest first aid and google to learn how to deal with it, this is a need to know thing! My dd has not choked yet, and actually choking is quite rare. Dd gags all the time, and this is fine. It looks horrible but only lasts a couple of seconds and then she dives back in so iit obviously doesn't bother her. I only mention this as my mum thinks she is choking when she gags and wants to grab her and whack her on the back, and I have had to teach her that gagging us different and actually, gagging makes her learn what is too far back and should prevent real choking.

Forgetfulmog Fri 19-Apr-13 18:58:07

What's everyone's view on DC eating restaurant food? I'm going to a dim sum restaurant tomorrow & wonder if I can give dd any of the food? Obviously deep fried chilli squid is out but some of the steamed dumplings might not be so bad?????

slightlysoupstained Fri 19-Apr-13 19:34:24

We've been out a few times with DS & given him tastes of what we're eating. Perhaps worth keeping salt low in other meals? And I took rice cakes as snack, but didn't end up using them.

MrsNPattz Fri 19-Apr-13 20:04:39

I would got for it at the restaurant! Or see what you think when you get there and take back up with you. Enjoy smile

TallGiraffe Fri 19-Apr-13 20:21:36

We've only eaten out once but they had a pitta bread and hummus option so he had that. He kept at least 4 tables entertained with his eating skills grin

Can I join this thread? I did BLW with ds from about 7 months when he resolutely refused a spoon. Went fantastic btw and has always been a varied/good eater but still hates using cutlery even at 5 yo. He will but still prefers fingers.

Dd is now 6.5 months and I've found although she doesn't refuse spoons, she definitely gets more enjoyment out of feeding herself and will sit to eat far more if I put something in front of her rather than putting a puree something on a spoon in her mouth. She gets fed up with that very quickly.

So I'm going to try blw again but need ideas with food wise, especially breakfasts. Funny how you forget everything.

Forgetfulmog Fri 19-Apr-13 20:52:58

It's funny how many posters have said their DC started refusing spoons at 7 mo - my dd has started doing that too. Is it an age thing do you think?

Have just checked out the menu for where I'm going - they do "firecracker prawns", that should be good finger food right?

Joke btw grin

Nicknamefail Sat 20-Apr-13 08:25:09

I gave my dd chilli veg which she wolfed down. So I think go for firecracker prawns. (For wolfed down read put into mouth, gum to death then dribble out. )

Forgetfulmog Sat 20-Apr-13 08:31:06

Haha! Babies do love strong flavours! Her daddy has made her a little packed lunch of a tuna & cucumber sandwhich, some cheese & bits of apple so at least I know she definately has something to eat. I can then give her tastes of whatever I'm having apart from the salt & chilli squid be because that's mine & I don't share my squid

cakeandcava Mon 22-Apr-13 10:25:48

Hi everyone, I joined this thread at the start and then just kind of fell off it as we hadn't begun yet. But yesterday we did! DS had a bit of banana when we had breakfast, then we did a roast chicken lunch and we gave him a piece of parsnip, carrot and a piece of broccoli. For tea we gave him a piece of avocado.

I'm not actually sure if any of it went down. But he played around with it. There was some coughing at some point, and lots of stuff coming out. I'm a bit surprised at how nerve wrecking I found it -I thought I'd be very zen...

Now I'm finding I have tons of questions. He was pulling a lot of faces and seemed to be straining a bit at times -Is that normal? When did your babies start swallowing things? Have you been introducing things according to a plan, and waiting days between different things, or do you just give him whatever you're having?

This is a bit more complicated than I thought!

Forgetfulmog Mon 22-Apr-13 10:46:48

Hi cake, welcome!

Straining & pulling faces all very normal, my dd does the straining thing a lot & she pulls a sort of "sour lemon" face when she tries a new flavour!

You'll be amazed at how quickly babies start to swallow - you'll be able to distinguish food in their poo & after a few weeks their poo will turn to well formed adult like poo <lush>

I do a bit of a mixture, I have a few things made up for dd in the freezer like these for breakfast which she loves straight out of the freezer, otherwise just what we're having (I take out her portion before adding salt).

Enjoy!

MrsNPattz Mon 22-Apr-13 11:07:16

Forgetfulmog those cookies sound great - going to try those!

MrsNPattz Mon 22-Apr-13 11:09:36

Cake, we don't follow a plan - we try new things all the time but don't always give him what we are having if it's not suitable. Sounds great what you tried, and as forgetful says you will soon see when things are swallowed in the nappy!!

MrsNPattz Mon 22-Apr-13 11:15:46

Forgetful how many grams of oats do you use?

Forgetfulmog Mon 22-Apr-13 13:05:43

Err I don't know as I have some measuring cups so just used 1 of those. this may help convert though

MrsNPattz Mon 22-Apr-13 15:02:25

Brilliant thanks!

Quak Mon 22-Apr-13 17:45:34

Hi - we're having a few problems here. Something has irritated her tummy - I think it might be a yoghurt she had friday (the first thing that I have ever spooned to her so it actually went down - about 6ish baby spoons)
I've been changing her nappy at least 10 times a day since saturday as she keeps doing poos, but it's made her bum very sore and she's upset. Her tum is gurgling and groaning at times and she's been very grizzy. I am only giving her milk (breast milk, not cows milk) for now, until it clears up and if she has another bad night it's the GP tomorrow sad
Does anyone have any experience of food intolerances/allergies? What happened and how long does it take to clear out of their system? She doesn't have a rash/hives and I am not 100% it even is something to do with food. But I know bf is safe so feel it's best to keep her off proper food until she's better??? Any advice?? Thanks

Forgetfulmog Mon 22-Apr-13 18:37:26

Oh poor ddhmm
It could well be a dairy intolerance or it could be a bug she's picked up. Any vomiting at all or have any of you had colds? Dd had stomach probs after getting a cold - the virus settled in her stomach & took ages to clear. If its an intolerance you should start seeing an improvement fairly shortly, unless of course she's becoming intolerant to the dairy in your BM <helpful>

cakeandcava Mon 22-Apr-13 19:58:49

forgetfulmog those cookies look amazing! Will be making and batchfreezing a few this weekend I think smile

And thanks for the reassurance. We had more parsnips and avocado today, and a bit of bread too (homemade without salt or sugar). He is still pulling faces, but everything seems to be working as it should at this stage...

Quak your poor DD. It sounds as if it could be a reaction to the dairy, although it probably should have cleared up by now if she's only had breastmilk since. It could well be a bug -might be worth asking the GP about it.

Nicknamefail Mon 22-Apr-13 20:15:26

Quak, poor your and dc. Hope starts to improve soon. I think it's a good idea just to give bm for now, until she's better. I know dairy intolerance is common, but be careful about labelling as this too soon, as you don't want to miss out on this food group until definitely the case. What about leaving yoghurt for a couple if weeks then trying again? Actually maybe longer than 2 weeks, as if it is just a bug, this can CAUSE a Temporary dairy intolerance which can last a few weeks.

I lovingly made a Dahl last night, only for dd to reject it outright. Boo. She then ate lots if fruit though. In fact, the only things she has actually swallowed are fruits and a little piece of carrot. Think she is a fruit-bat baby.

Quak Mon 22-Apr-13 20:17:23

cake - I didn't add that she gummed some cheese on a rice cake on sunday morning (before I twigged it could have been dairy related [stupid] !) so if she is reacting to the dairy then more was dumped on top of the yoghurt sad No proper food since then though.
forgetful - There has not been any vomiting thank goodness. She did have a bit of a cold a week or so ago. I would really struggle to cut dairy out - I'm a fairly fussy vegetarian blush so fingers crossed it's not that!
I've decided to go to GP tomorrow regardless, and I am offering her milk at least every couple of hours so she doesn't get dehydrated. It's a shame because she was starting to enjoy herself.
Thanks for your support smile

Quak Mon 22-Apr-13 20:26:08

Nickname - I thought that leaving out the yogurt for a good month or so would be my best bet. That's what is recommended isn't it? If something disagrees with them then just wait and offer it later. I have heard about a temporary intolerance, a little girl I know has this after a bad bug and doesn't understand why she can't have the biscuits she's always had before, poor wee thing smile

MsJupiterJones Mon 22-Apr-13 20:50:18

Quak - it can take a week or so to pass through the system. Presumably there's been no previous reaction to your bm? Definitely see GP & if poss get referral to allergy clinic at hospital. I am starting to wean a CMPI baby, have an appt on thurs so if I get any useful info I'll pass it on.

Great cookie recipe! Astounding in fact! Can't wait to try those soon.

Hi cakeandcava <waves>

Nicknamefail Mon 22-Apr-13 22:05:22

Right. Cookies in oven. Leftovers from our dinner tonight for her dinner tomorrow. Toasty lunch with cashew but butter.....sorted!

What are the odds of her not eating any of it? I think high. Still feels nice to be organised which never normally happens

Nicknamefail Mon 22-Apr-13 22:16:20

Oh wow, the cookies are delicious. Maybe too delicious to be licked and thrown on the floor by dd! Mmmmmmmnmm

MrsNPattz Tue 23-Apr-13 00:52:44

Can't wait to try them - will do tomorrow if I have time grin

Forgetfulmog Tue 23-Apr-13 07:04:41

Dd loves them straight out if the freezer - they're hard but not so hard that she can't gum them & they must be soothing on her gums. I also made these yesterday & me, dd & DH all loved them. I used wholemeal breadcrumbs & fresh broccoli instead of the frozen stuff.

Nicknamefail Tue 23-Apr-13 08:24:14

Just to prove I am not. Bad mother, I did give the beast the banana cookies. She loved them too. smile

On an exciting note, the beast is a TERRIBLE sleeper, but had her best ever nights sleep (3 wake ups) last night. This was after she she a large amount at dinner. Will weaning mean a better nights sleep??? [hopeful face emoticon]

Forgetfulmog Tue 23-Apr-13 08:31:47

God I hope so nickname - my dd feeds every 2 hrs day & night!

cakeandcava Tue 23-Apr-13 09:38:36

Well, we have bits in the nappy! grin Sorry if that is tmi, but it's very exciting!
Tried some porridge this morning, he didn't seem too interested. Parsnips still the favourite so far, but we're only on day 3...

Unfortunately weaning is now coming with a side order of oral antibiotics sad We were prescribed them yesterday, DS has a bit of infected eczema. The GP said to continue BLW as normal -I really really hope it's not going to mess anything up in his tummy. Neither me nor DH usually have much of a reaction to antibiotics, so fingers crossed.

cakeandcava Tue 23-Apr-13 09:40:00

Oh and those vegetable nuggets look great too! I think I'm going to have to have a major cooking and freezing session of lots of things this weekend...

Nicknamefail Tue 23-Apr-13 11:32:23

Congrats cake! Not tmi. Makes changing nappies more exciting as you can see what went down. I have a high threshold for being grossed out by anything though

violetta555 Tue 23-Apr-13 14:53:00

Forgetfulmog Another one to say thanks for the cookie recipe!

I had rice and lentils (dhal-type) for lunch so plonked a helping onto DD's highchair tray. Fun and DD seemed to enjoy the flavours, but do not attempt if you have to go out somewhere quickly afterwards... I spent an age cleaning up and just found lentils on my shoe! :D

Forgetfulmog Tue 23-Apr-13 19:09:14

Aaaghh help, dd grabbed a handful of salad off my plate & gummed it, but I've only just twigged that it had a homemade honey dressing on - nhs says to avoid honey because it can cause botulism blush. Please reassure me she'll be ok!

Quak Tue 23-Apr-13 20:32:44

Oh, mog - I am sure you've nothing to worry about. Any advice will always err on the side of caution, but botulism is a very rare thing. I bet most people on mumsnet had their dummies dipped in honey as babies....
On the vvvvvvvvvvvv off chance your dd gets sick, modern medicine will cure her. You've probably looked but this is reassuring smile

Forgetfulmog Tue 23-Apr-13 20:57:21

Thanks quak smile. Ill be a bit more on the ball as to what she grabs from now on though!

How's your little dd?

Quak Wed 24-Apr-13 08:23:56

It's hard isn't it. Those little grabby hands get everything.
She is still pooing loads. Saw GP and went to HV clinic for advice. GP thinks it's the yoghurt and potentially a reaction to the heavy bacteria content, HV thinks it's a virus. Either way, nothing I can do but wait. Going to give her something plain today as she seems confused as to why I'm not sharing my food with her! If she's interested I take that as a good sign. Got a stronger cream for her little bum too.
Been feeling a bit fed up with food but think I'll give those veggie nuggets and cookies a go later.

batteryhen Wed 24-Apr-13 14:01:15

Hello smile I have been feeling fed up with everything too so will try the cookies and nuggets too. I occasionally still try the spoon but I am just going to give that up. DS pinched a sandwich from my plate today which confirmed to me to just give up the spoons. I just feel like I struggle with ideas all the time.

Forgetfulmog Wed 24-Apr-13 14:10:19

I hope she feels better soon quak smile My dd threw up her yoghurt today, which is unusual so no idea what's going on there.

Battery - I'm feeling the same way, sooo tired today & just can't think of anything imaginative for dd. she's had homemade pizza for the last 4 days shock. I'm really worried about salt content in things like bread, but am I right in thinking that with baby led its not such an issue as with purées?

cakeandcava Wed 24-Apr-13 15:42:46

I think things like salt in bread and cheese isn't an issue with BLW Forgetful -it's more about not adding extra salt to whatever it is you're cooking. Especially if you buy good quality bread (or make your own) I wouldn't worry too much (at least that is what my HV told me).

DS has been doing more poo-with-bits and is getting a nappy rash, poor thing sad He seems a bit gassy and strainy in general, I'm not sure if it's the introduction of food or the antibiotics (probably a combination).

So far only been giving him fruit, veg and toast, but might try a bit of fish tonight...

Quak Thu 25-Apr-13 08:31:43

cake - if your ds is getting really sore, try Metonium for his nappy rash. It's the one in the yellow tube, not the white one. DD's constant pooing have made her bum almost red raw and HV advised this cream. It seems to be soothing her and it is still there by the next nappy change, so must be protecting her skin. However, it leaves yellow marks on everything!
I gave dd some cucumber yesterday. Whole pieces of cucumber came out within a couple of hours shock and I think they hurt coming out. She obviously didn't chew them!
Hope the fish went down well smile

Forgetfulmog Thu 25-Apr-13 13:00:51

Thanks cake, we get our bread from the local bakers so no nasties smile

Antibiotics can wreak temporary havoc on digestive systems, hopefully it won't be too long before he's off them. Yy to metanium, it's bloody brilliant.

Bit of a miracle occurred this morning; dd wanted to get up at 6.30 instead of 5 - I had a lie-in!

batteryhen Thu 25-Apr-13 14:40:47

Can second metanium, it works wonders here. DS had a cheese sandwich for lunch today followed by a banana cake which he loved. Tonight is fish. I got him weighed today and he has only put on 4oz in 4 weeks. I really want him to eat more! am going to try and make those veg nuggets

MrsNPattz Thu 25-Apr-13 16:41:49

Those cookies are lovely!! We added white choc chips in ours and left them plain for little man smile

Lynz1987 Thu 25-Apr-13 18:14:47

Hi all I've read some of the posts I'm interested in BLW but no not much about it my LO is a small baby and have tried purées which were ok but she stopped taking her milk so I'm interested in BLW am i right baby dictates how much? Can u do a combo of the two I'm holding off all solids til 6 months now, as want DD to get the most from her formula she's refusing some feeds due to teething. Can DD do BLW with no teeth??

slightlysoupstained Thu 25-Apr-13 19:51:52

Hi Lynz, DS didn't have teeth when we started. He just gummed things, which seemed to be fairly effective as long as the food was relatively soft (e.g. steamed carrot or broccoli) - but to be honest, for the first few weeks he was mostly figuring out how to pick stuff up, hold it and reliably get it in the right position for him to gum it, move any bits that he managed to gnaw off around his mouth, etc. So I wasn't too worried about how much he managed to bite off, because I figured that he was still tasting new things anyway.

Nicknamefail Thu 25-Apr-13 23:00:54

My dd has no teeth but manages loads of things. I guess the gums are hard with teeth underneath. Uncooked carrot would be too hard, but most other things are manageable.
We had chickpea patties from the blw cookbook today. Really yummy. With adults that is, will try with the beast tomorrow!
Was very excited today as the beast ate half a satsuma. She had had these before, but juiced them and spat out the pith. (Love that word!) but today she ate the whole segments. Hurray! Dh hasn't seen her eating for a several days (has stupid job) and was impressed with how far she has cone on. It was really nice to hear this as it can be hard to see the difference day by day. Like growing, I guess.

Nicknamefail Thu 25-Apr-13 23:02:02

Oh, complete fail on broccoli and omelette though. (V sad as broccoli is my favourite veg and this was the second fail.)

FadBook Fri 26-Apr-13 04:46:22

Sons think like 17 times you need to offer food before they'll accept it. Keep offering Nick.

Dd was never a lover of peas. At 20 months, she decides she likes them. They've been offered every time we've had them! gringrin

FadBook Fri 26-Apr-13 04:46:52

Sons = some ...

Nicknamefail Fri 26-Apr-13 13:12:31

Thanks Fad. Will try again next week. She just enjoyed a little lamb stew. Think it went down well as it had been cooked so long that it pretty much disintegrated when she put it in her mouth. God bless the slow cooker. smile

MsJupiterJones Sat 27-Apr-13 20:55:11

Nickname my DS is having days when he likes things and days when he looks like this confused about the same food! Cucumber and avocado in the last week for example.

I just leave it and offer again a couple of days later.

DS turned 6 months on Friday, we've been giving him bits of fruit & veg in the last couple of weeks. Tried fish last night but got shudders, today had chicken salad for lunch (loved) and spag bol for dinner (messy but fun!)

Don't know if I'm trying too many new things at once but he seems to be enjoying it so I guess it's ok!

Hurrah! After MONTHS of trying, crying, & spoons, DD has finally figured out how to get food into her own mouth. It's her 1st birthday in 10 days... I am so relieved!

gringringringringrin

Forgetfulmog Sun 28-Apr-13 08:42:51

Woohoo! V happy for you. Have some wine

Bit early for me but I will later! She's now sitting on the floor, watching Zingzillas & dancing, fig biscuit crumbs everywhere grin I know naughty biscuits, I'm probably a bad mum but she is nearly 1. Woohoo! Must go & sweep up now.

Forgetfulmog Sun 28-Apr-13 09:09:06

Nomnom fig biscuits.

Both I & dd have colds & are feeling v sorry for ourselves. Has anyone else had a weird virus thing that consists of a sore throat that lasts for days & days & then shivery flu-like aches & pains??

Ugh I had that about a month ago, it's
horrible.

Forgetfulmog Sun 28-Apr-13 09:28:53

How long did you have it for? Just so I can prepare myself!

About 5 days - sorry. I usually get better from colds etc quite quickly but this one really hung on.

Forgetfulmog Sun 28-Apr-13 09:41:50

Well this is day 3 so over halfway there! Thanks smile

We have DD some cucumber yesterday. She loved it but woke up a few times in the night, very farty! Is this normal? She's not had it before but hasn't so far had any obvious reactions to other foods & she eats a really wide range of food.

Forgetfulmog Sun 28-Apr-13 11:26:07

Thanks forgetfulmog I've just added that to my favourites. Now DD has figured it out, there are SO MANY more food options compared to spoon feeds. grin

slightlysoupstained Sun 28-Apr-13 15:25:53

50shades Yay for your DD - have fun exploring all that lovely new stuff!

Forgetfulmog Finally got around to making the [[http://www.theburlapbag.com/2012/07/2-ingredient-cookies-plus-the-mix-ins-of-your-choice/ banana oat cookies] you suggested way back up there somewhere - amazed how straightforward they are, and how nice! DS chomped away happily on them so next batch will do for the freezer I think.

He's now 8 months so we've been doing this for 2 months now. He suddenly seems to have started to eat a lot more - we went to Ikea on Friday and I got him a kids plate of cheesey tomatoey pasta, expecting he'd chomp a few pieces and I'd eat the rest, but he kept stuffing it in, bouncing up and down for a bit while he chomped (I find this particularly cute), then looking at me for some more. Not sure if this will last or whether he'll go back to nibbling the odd bit here and there. He still drops plenty though.

Nicknamefail Sun 28-Apr-13 17:54:53

50shades - all food seems to make my dd very farty It must be genetic

nicknamefail I think you are right - it's genetic!

Forgetfulmog Mon 29-Apr-13 11:15:43

We tried the porridge fingers this morning - Mrspatz it was you that recommended them wasn't it? Thank you! - & dd loved them! Gave her a couple & then decided that was probably enough, but I suspect she'd have quite happily nommed the lot!

Forgetfulmog Mon 29-Apr-13 11:16:49

Also, on that website link I gave you all, there's a recipe for carrot & lentil cakes - made them yesterday & they were a massive hit! Even DH said he would eat them!

MsJupiterJones Mon 29-Apr-13 11:38:44

Are people adding food in stages or just going for it? I only offered fruit & veg pre-six months but since then (Friday!) have offered meat, potato, pasta & bread. Haven't offered eggs but was thinking of doing so. Is this ok do you think? I was reading the NHS trad weaning guide I was given just out of interest & it recommends no wheat, potato etc until 7 months. What do people think?

violetta555 Mon 29-Apr-13 13:13:55

MsJJ Personally I'd do whatever you feel comfortable with (this may be dictated by any known allergies in the family - DH had problems with dairy as a kid so we held off on that for a while and introduced it slowly) and let your LO's reactions (and nappies) be your guide! grin

We offered DD little bits of all our main meals, except salty/sugary/choky stuff, and she could pick and choose which bits she liked best.

For anyone whose LO loves cheese - Tesco do a reduced salt mild cheddar, probably only in bigger stores but you can get it online. I'm sure most reputable supermarket chains will have an equivalent...

MsJupiterJones Mon 29-Apr-13 14:35:19

Thanks violetta, that's what I thought but wondered if I was being a bit gung ho. We're avoiding dairy atm as he had a problem with it (he is mix fed) but was giving him bits of everything else. He is very enthusiastic about it all!

Rice cakes are also marked 7+ months but I know they are a popular BLW food so was thinking of trying some as would be handy for out and about.

HabitualLurker Tue 30-Apr-13 10:40:18

Ugh, I've been feeling very uninspired this past week, so thought I'd come and see if I can get some good ideas from you lot!

On one hand my DS is definitely getting better at eating; when I compare his skill in moving food around his mouth and swallowing (rather than dramatically gagging and puking!) it's pretty amazing. And he actually managed to get a spoon full of something into his mouth on his own the other day (I suspect it was entirely accidental). On the other hand, the vast majority of food still ends up on the floor or smeared over his body grin.

We're stuck in a bit of a rut - tending to give avocado, cucumber, orange, pear, toast, yoghurt, wheatibix, pasta, porridge. Basically stuff that's very easy to prepare, or that I'm making for myself anyway. I need to branch out, and I think the main problem is that I'm essentially lazy. I'm going to take a look at the BLW website for ideas I think.

We've not really given meat yet. He had some poached white fish once, which he seemed to like, but we don't eat a lot of meat ourselves and when we do it's quite processed and salty (sausages, chorizo etc), so not all that suitable. Anyone know if we should be making sure he has meat? (He's 7 months)

Nicknamefail Tue 30-Apr-13 11:10:46

habitual I think blw comes into its own after a year when the kids can have a bit more salt and can properly eat what you so. I keep lunches easy with the type of thing you were saying, but try to make more of an effort at tea time. We eat meat like you aaa well but I am going to buy some various meats today and ffeeeze them in small quantities so dd gets used to eating meat, and good for iron levels!

I also froze a bug batch of Dahl which was really easy to make. Dd rejected it on its own, but enjoys it on pitta. The blw cookbook is quite good for quick ideas like that.

msjj the nhs choices website doesn't say anything about avoiding bread etc until 7 months. Is your leaflet old? I have pretty much been giving dd everything and got worried when I read your post!

slightlysoupstained Tue 30-Apr-13 17:43:10

Habitual Know what you mean about a rut. I went for a wander round the supermarket fruit/veg section last week to look for easy to prep stuff that DS hadn't had yet: picked up baby figs, mango, sweet potato - sure there were a couple of other things but can't remember them now!

The BLW website is good, I made these lentil cakes for freezing, and also have some of the banana oat cookies frozen too, so I have something to fall back on when out of inspiration. E.g. today DS ate sweet potato chips (from last night's dinner), lentil cake, banana (which he used to dislike but seems to be keener on it now he's a bit better at holding stuff), and a few strands of instant noodles from my lunch blush

Also thinking about trying some of the recipes from this site: broccoliandricecakes.wordpress.com/recipes/ though it's all veggie so no meat recipes!

PurpleBlossom Wed 01-May-13 20:02:52

Hi All!

DD turned 6mos on the 25th and been weaning since then, so nearly a week now.

Tonight's dinner was a disaster confused
I spent ages making chicken skewers, wedges and salad. DD looked at it in disgust, wouldn't even try it! So I gave her some yogurt with puréed fruit (which she fed herself from a preloaded spoon), it was a hit and she ate the lot. However, she then tried eating a bit of potato she found on the high chair seat, gagged and threw up all the yoghurt sad

Oh well tomorrow is another day. I might try her on the chicken again for lunch.

rootypig Wed 01-May-13 22:44:59

hello all! DD is 6mo tomorrow and we have been doing some tentative BLW for a week or so (with some yoghurt and fruit purees too, letting her get used to holding a spoon). So far there is a lot of mess and nothing much has gone down but I'm treating it as messy play and it's a fun way to fill an hour or two of the day! am a bit nervous about the choking / gagging but am trying to stay relaxed....!

can I ask, what the BLW cookbook I've seen mentioned is? it sounds good smile

ThreeWheels, I saw what you said about sleep, and thought you might be interested in this on KellyMom: kellymom.com/parenting/nighttime/weaning-night/

she says that many babies increase night waking when they start solids, as their digestion is working harder. Presumably it settles down quite quickly. You could try just introducing new foods at lunch and do tried and tested things at tea?

Nicknamefail Thu 02-May-13 08:57:37

Rootypig, I have the blw recipe book and find it quite helpful. You obviously don't need it as blw means you are supposed to give them what you have, but what I have is often salty, and these recipes are easy and mean I don't have to think about what I give her. The chick pea patties are particularly delicious as well.

rootypig Thu 02-May-13 09:35:25

Thanks Nickname, is it this one?

Nicknamefail Thu 02-May-13 14:00:54

Yup!

rootypig Thu 02-May-13 14:18:56

thanks, have ordered! DH isn't the most advanced cook hmm so am thinking I will put this under his nose and kill two birds with one stone grin

Forgetfulmog Thu 02-May-13 20:09:24

Made a chicken & lentil curry for dd & used it to stuff pitta breads. Dd was quite taken with them but then started rubbing one pitta over her head! Hilarious to watch grin

Quak Sun 05-May-13 19:12:11

Can anyone advise me......I have been happily giving dd cucumber sliced long-ways into fingers, skin on. She gums it and chews off chunks. Often she'll spit them out but sometimes swallow them (I've seen whole pieces in her poo!) She seems to actually like it. Now a third person has said to me that I shouldn't leave the skin on. Have I misunderstood when books and other folk have talked about cucumber - should I be peeling it first?

Anyway, we're back on track after 2 weeks of bad bum and being irritated with food in general. She's feeding herself with a pre-loaded spoon too now, and had a little chocolate cake for the first time today. She didn't seem bothered shock

Forgetfulmog Sun 05-May-13 20:20:28

I think the skin off thing is only so she won't choke on it. I peel apple & pear before giving it to my dd.

Quak Sun 05-May-13 20:28:51

I'd peel apples and pears too, but have never peeled the cucumber. The skin seems thicker and isn't peelable in the same way as fruit skin. I never really thought of it as 'skin' at all really. I think I might remove it from now on. Have had no issue with it so far but better to be safe I guess. Thanks

MsJupiterJones Mon 06-May-13 10:57:38

Don't know if anyone saw this Observer article yesterday but thought it was interesting in terms of BLW.

slightlysoupstained Mon 06-May-13 13:50:24

Quak Re: peel I started off peeling apples, pears etc, but not bothering with cucumber. I've now stopped peeling pears and he seems to manage it okay (actually a bit easier for him to grip it with the peel on) - I guess it depends when you think they're ready to cope with bits? If you'll feel happier removing then remove away.

Plentyoffish Mon 06-May-13 19:39:58

Hi,

Newbie to this thread.

I have a 6 month DS who I started weaning at 23 weeks with baby rice, we have also worked our way through first tastes carrot, sweet potato, broccoli etc as purée.

He has now started to refuse the purée and hates to been spoon fed.

I tried him on wheatabix this morning with blue top milk he wasn't too sure.

He also had some low salt/sugar beans and some toast fingers which went down really well.

For dinner I tried him on mince & potatoes with carrots and peas he HATED IT! Got some stuck in his throat and was sick till it came up hmm

Really need some ideas on what to offer do I go back to the start and offer bits as finger food?

MrsNPattz Wed 08-May-13 09:13:48

I lost you all for a while - you went out of my 'I'm on' threads for some reason. Will catch up now! Little man is just enjoying peanut butter on toast and a banana!

Forgetfulmog Wed 08-May-13 09:18:07

Plentyoffish - my dd loved roast parsnip at that age - roast in olive oil with some cumin seeds. Roast carrots too.

Cooked broccoli? Bits of cheese? Pieces of banana?

Quak Wed 08-May-13 22:13:37

Hi Plentyoffish - for easy finger foods, we've enjoyed amongst other things - boiled egg, crumpets, breadsticks, cheese on toast, eggy bread, steamed veg (broccoli/sweet pot/carrot/green beans), toasted banana, dried apple, tangerine segments, cucumber, mango, homemade pancakes, rice cakes.....all of which she has managed herself and are things that don't make a ludicrous amount of mess!
You could also try loading up a spoon and giving that to your ds to play with. To get him trusting it again?? Things like rusk-paste, mashed veg, yogurt or cous-cous that will stick to the spoon (so there's half a chance he'll get to eat some of it!)
MrsNP - you've just reminded me that I was going to try peanut butter ages ago and totally forgot. Guess what's for lunch tomorrow!

Dorisday13 Thu 09-May-13 17:24:49

Ooh cumin seeds! Crushed or whole roasted? Sorry to jump in x

Andcake Thu 09-May-13 19:20:56

Although ds (8mo) has been a bit temperamental with food of ate after a great start a hit ths week has been the lentil and cheese wedges from the bw cook book. I think ths is the same recipe www.babyledweaning.com/recipes/lunchdinner/alisons-lentil-and-cheese-wedges/
I think a cold and teething has made him reject things he previously liked so we had a few days of banana and avocado with breadsticks! He can really wolf down a banana now days and loves a plum as well. I do leave skins on cucumber and we've had a few pt on the back incidents but never with that.

Forgetfulmog Thu 09-May-13 20:10:08

Whole Doris smile

Ok, I need some advice from you ladies please - dd has barely put on any weight last month so am wondering if I need to up her food intake. Could you all give me your thoughts on her diet please? smile

So, a typical days food might look like this:

Breakfast: a few slices banana, some homemade fruit toast with butter (prob 1 slice) & half a Rachel's organic yoghurt.

Lunch: few pieces of a cheese & Tom sandwhich or half a pitta filled with chicken curry (homemade of course!) & a few pieces of pear)

Tea: a little bit of whatever we have, today it was tomato lasagne.

Obviously not much of anything gets eaten & she is bf every 2 hrs or so as well.

I'm also a bit worried that she probably has cheese every day - is that bad do you think?

Starting to doubt myself now!

Quak Thu 09-May-13 22:09:50

Weight gain does tail off, or rather, they put it on at a relatively slower rate. 'They' do say that you shouldn't weigh your dc's monthly after 6 months. My dd put on 0.15kg from 26wks-30wks. A lot less than before. Your's is 7/8 months right? I wouldn't worry if she is happy, making progress, enthusiastic with food and is still bf often. But that's easy to say isn't it!
I don't know about the cheeses every day thing. I might cut it down a little, and replace it with other things now and again smile

Plentyoffish Fri 10-May-13 03:06:42

thanks Quark

last few days have been good.

he has had weetabix with fruit puree and baby rice that was a big hit!

toast with unsalted butter and a wee nibble of a babybell.

dinner time not so good refused a few things i tried him on but eventually decided he liked some mashed fish pie grin

PurpleBlossom Fri 10-May-13 11:57:41

Hello Forgetfulmog.

I'm been worrying about the amount of cheese DD is eating as well, but she loves it! I've been trying to get her to eat fish/egg/chicken but it's been a slow process. She did however eat some scrambled egg last night and will now chew on bits of chicken (wouldn't go as far to say she actually eats it though!) but I guess it's still progress!

I've tried to only give her cheese every other day, but it's hard when you know they will eat something, rather than just throw it on the floor hmmgrin

Forgetfulmog Fri 10-May-13 12:03:11

Thanks quak & purpleblossom smile

It's so difficult to know as because she's BLW not much goes in anyway so I don't know how important it is not to give her cheese so often. Grrrr this being responsible thing is hard!

Forgetfulmog Fri 10-May-13 13:01:56

Well that lunch was a disaster & a complete waste of time. Ended up giving dd marmite on toast for the 2nd day in a row & she didn't even really want that. Feel like crap now.

slightlysoupstained Fri 10-May-13 17:56:28

Forgetful Ouch sad - on days like that I chant "food is for fun till they're one" and tell myself it'll average out over the week...

I wonder about giving cheese too often too. I lovingly made lentil cakes as a tasty, convenient, easy to hold alternative, DS scoffed the first one with great enthusiasm and has since refused to have anything to do with them! (I end up eating them myself. I like them, but...). Bah.

Forgetfulmog Fri 10-May-13 20:29:27

I know soup! You lovingly prepare food for them & then they do the cats bum mouth & look at you as if to say "what? You expect me to eat this shit?"

Gurke Fri 10-May-13 21:02:13

I've been lurking for ages, may I please join you all?

I finally took the plunge and gave my DS solids a couple of weeks ago! He is coming up to 8 months, but was born 12 weeks early. The standard advice seems to be to wean them according to their actual age, rather than their 'corrected' age - but I didn't feel he was ready 2 months ago. But I've now given him some banana pieces to hold (& smear in his face, obv), and spoons of baby rice (made with bm) & mashed banana - and boy was he excited! Going by his delighted slurping I suppose he really is ready for solids... grin

BLW is still a bit of an aspiration at this stage, because his motor skills are those if a 5 month old rather than an 8 month baby, but I hope we'll get there soon.

Can I ask you what you do when your DC is choking on bits of food? I know gagging looks very different, and we've seen plenty of that - but today he seemed to be actually choking on a bit of oat-banana cookie (I didn't think he was swallowing anything, just licking the life out of that cookie, but then he suddenly seemed to choke. It terrified me!)

Anyway, onwards and upwards in the weaning adventures. grin

Quak Fri 10-May-13 21:49:09

Gurke - Welcome! See if you can book yourself on a baby first-aid course or similar. That might give you some confidence to deal with minor and more serious choking incidents. In my region the NCT organise such courses with the Red Cross.
The blw book I read suggests that for the most part you should leave your baby alone as they can sort themselves out when something doesn't go down right, but if your ds is still developing the necessary motor skills then your situation is different and I would proceed more cautiously, as you have been already. With dd, we sit together and I make exaggerated chewing motions and encourage her to 'ba ba/da da' etc to encourage her to keep munching the food up. She watches and finds it funny a lot of the time but she copies me and merrily chews away!

Gurke Sat 11-May-13 13:42:56

Thank you Quak smile Great idea to go on a first aid course, I've just looked for some local ones.

DS had some poached pear today. He tried (and failed) to hold some of the slippery pieces, but was delighted with rice cakes dipped into mashed pear and sucked much of it off. So far he's not been interested in avocado or carrot, but banana, pear, baby rice, melon and those oat cookies have all been great hits.

Hope you're all seeing some enthusiastic chomping and gumming today grin

Gurke Mon 13-May-13 08:44:16

Morning all. Can I ask you all what you do about your LOs' red bottoms? Obviously things like metanium cream, frequent changing etc - but I'm wondering what to do about the foods that caused it, i.e do you stop giving it, or continue & hope your LO gets used to it?

I think in DS' case the culprit was pear hmm

On a happier note, yesterday I've made those oat biscuits with stewed apple instead of banana, and they were a hit with baby & adults grin

Quak Tue 14-May-13 08:09:51

I would perhaps reduce the amount of the suspect food but don't stop giving it. I think my dd had a bit of a reaction to yoghurt. I still let her have it but only very little at a time. I just dip the spoon so a thin coating sticks to it and let her feed herself. A sure way to minimise intake! So far, all has been fine.
Also, if you've time, nappy-free time is good. Whilst dd can't move about it's easy enough to leave her lying down with no nappy on. And no wipes, just cotton wool and water, and no bubble bath etc.

Forgetfulmog Tue 14-May-13 08:40:08

Gurke - it's not likely to be the nappies is it? We used to have a bit of a problem with nappy rash but since we've started using cloth, no rash! I'm not suggesting you start using reusables btw!

Gurke Tue 14-May-13 23:38:58

Thank you quak & forgetful! I'm pretty sure his sore bottom is food related (& it's not that bad) and was just wondering whether to treat this as a 'reaction' or to just hope he'll get used to whatever caused it.

One BLW question for everyone: do you offer your LOs drinks during meals, and if so from what kind if vessel? (I'm currently trying to teach my bf bottle-refusing DS to drink from a cup; variable results so far but the best has definitely been when I offered him a cup as part of a 'meal' on his highchair for him feed himself.)

Forgetfulmog Wed 15-May-13 05:42:04

Gurke I offer water to dd when I can remember at her evening meal, in a doidy cup

HabitualLurker Thu 16-May-13 17:52:59

Gurke I think the standard advice is to offer water at every meal from a free-flowing cup. I'm using one of those bog-standard tommee tippee spouted cups.

Things are progressing slowly but surely with weaning here. I still get slight pangs when I see my friends' babies scoff whole bowlfuls of (pureed) food from a spoon with minimal mess. They probably eat at least twice what LurkerBaby will get through. And his sleeping is terrible at the moment. I know it's really teething and that he's not waking up from hunger particularly, and so more food would probably make no difference, but still, I can't help but wonder...

Oh well, 'tis a moot point anyway, because he's pretty much a spoon refuser! The only thing he'll happily eat from a spoon is yoghurt. And of course he grabs it from me and wants to do it himself, so it's still incredibly messy! I've actually found that mixing yoghurt with other stuff (yesterday's pea and lettuce risotto for dinner just now, for instance) makes the other stuff acceptable to him. Would it be bad to bung yoghurt on everything to get him to take it from a spoon? I have a feeling the answer is yes.. Ach, maybe it's just that he needs a sloppy texture for spoon fed stuff?

Othewise, it's full steam ahead with food he can feed himself. I've realised roast dinner is a brilliant BLW meal. Every component can be picked up and it's pretty balanced nutritionally too! We don't tend to go in for roasts much, but maybe I'll start doing them more often now.

Quak Thu 16-May-13 20:55:08

Thought I would share some of my success foods. Things are taking off for us here. Spaghetti Bolognese, falafals in pitta bread, apple and ginger cakes and fishfingers have been very well received. The trick with us seems to be the more unbaby-fied the food, the happier she is with it. I am not a fan of cooking at all so have simplified some recipes to suit!

Falafals: Blend can of chickpeas and mix with, 2 tbsp flour, tsp coriander and cumin, half an onion, bit of parsley, crushed clove of garlic and a bit of oil. Press into burger/ball shapes and fry for 5 mins. I serve with french dressing and spinach for myself and dh - Yum.

Apple and ginger 'cakes' - DD simply crushes and scatters any form of normal cake so these work well for us. It is my latest result from playing around with 4 basic ingredients - Almost (3/4ish) a cup of plain flour, a few tbsp golden caster sugar and 1 egg and a bit of milk. Remove the sugar and add grated veg for a savoury option...anyway:
Mix together and add a little milk until it's like thick custard. (If you cook and mash 2 apples you can mix them in and fry like normal pancakes) Or pour into some sort of cake tin and add slices of apple instead. Bake in oven for 20-30mins (in my oven anyway...!) I guess until they are golden brown - Voila - easy to hold and non-crumbly cakes.

These recipes are not going to win any awards, but they are easy and salt-free smile

Gurke Sun 19-May-13 14:21:00

Quak that sounds delicious - will steal your falafel recipe for tomorrow.

Big day for us today: first time I gave him meat (poached chicken strips). He seemed quite interested, but not sure how much he actually ate.

I think our biggest problem right now (apart from DS' complete refusal to try any kind of cup/bottle/beaker/straw/other drinking vessel that is not a boob) is that he seems to find this eating solids business really hard work. After a few preloaded spoonfuls he often gets really tired and either zones out or wants to leave his chair.

esmelovessqualor Mon 20-May-13 16:49:09

Hi everyone, hoping I can join the thread please, in need of some support! My DD is 28 weeks today and I started with BLW 10 days ago. Her first foods were banana, steamed sweet potato, broccoli and carrot. She didn't seem to take much in, a few bits here and there in her nappy but was having fun exploring all the different tastes and textures. I introduced baby muesli a couple of days later and since then she has had diarrhoea. I stopped the muesli as I thought it might be the culprit but she is still going through loads of nappies. Metanium is keeping the nappy rash under control and she doesn't seem unwell, dehydrated or unhappy. The doctor saw her last week and said to give her puréed veg one at a time but I really want to stick with BLW. Do you have any advice or wisdom to impart as I feel like everyone in RL thinks I'm making a bad choice. Thanks in advance!

esmelovessqualor Mon 20-May-13 16:49:55

Wow really should have split that into paragraphs sorry!

ExBrightonBell Mon 20-May-13 17:01:15

Hi Esme. The diarrhoea might just be a coincidence, but I was wondering what milk you used on the baby muesli? Maybe your dd had a slight reaction to cows milk?

Btw, I'm loving doing BLW with my DS, so I, at least, think you have made a good choice! Don't let anyone put you off :-)

esmelovessqualor Mon 20-May-13 17:07:39

Hi Brighton, thanks for replying.

I used formula so that might be the culprit, she's only been breast fed prior to weaning. How long would you expect it would take her system to settle down? She's not had any formula for a week now.

ExBrightonBell Mon 20-May-13 17:18:59

Oh gosh, I guess it depends! My ds has had reactions like this that lasted for 4 or 5 days. Usually when I try the food again a while later he's ok.

leedy Mon 20-May-13 17:21:45

Hi, can I join in? Just started BLW with DS2 (6 months). So far he has been unconvinced by fruit but chewed enthusiastically on sweet potato wedges, cucumber, bagel, rice cakes, and, er, chips from my takeaway. One gagging incident resulting in spat-out chip, and I'm not sure how much is going in, but he seems quite interested and happy to be participating in what all the big people are doing. Oh, and quite a lot of farting after the sweet potato....

esmelovessqualor Mon 20-May-13 17:45:25

Brighton that's good to know. Thanks again

Hi Leedy sounds like your DS is loving it! Look forward to hearing how he progresses

Esme currently smashing fistfuls of sweet potato into high chair and laughing. And chewing the inflatable insert to her Antilop.

HabitualLurker Mon 20-May-13 18:04:30

Those Apple and ginger cakes look good Quak I may give them a go too.

Has anyone got recommendations for easy pasta shapes for baby hands to hold? We had conchiglie (shells) tonight and littlelurker hardly ate any. Except when I picked one up and put it under his mouth, and then he gave a good go. So I'm thinking he just had problems with the shape being difficult to hold rather than not wanting to eat it.

leedy Mon 20-May-13 18:27:11

I remember fusilli being easy to hold for DS1

slightlysoupstained Mon 20-May-13 18:36:20

Fusilli was good for DS too, also that stuff that looks like really big penne (rigatoni I think).

Spaghetti/linguine are also easy to pick up, but are such huge fun to wave around, rub all over your face, beat against the side of your highchair etc that you might find them a bit messier.

leedy Mon 20-May-13 20:08:18

Total hit dinner this evening - we were having steak, steamed green beans, and bread, DS2 had a piece of steak to gum, some beans, a rice cake, and some peach. Steak was sucked to oblivion, beans and rice cake were gummed, only the peach seemed to be a problem - I gave him some peeled slices and he just didn't seem to be able to hold them. The one time he got a bit to his mouth he seemed fairly enthusiastic about it but otherwise he seemed to just find it frustrating. Tips for managing soft, slippy fruit, other than just "give him time"?

Oh, and another gagging incident (with a bean), but again managed to just spit the offending bit out.

Dorisday13 Tue 21-May-13 08:19:38

Hi, with the fruit I cut into segments then score the flesh with a fork, it's easier to grab/hold/manipulate and she sort of gums/sucks off the flesh very efficiently! Plums are a massive winner xx

leedy Tue 21-May-13 09:17:53

Thanks! Do you leave the skin on?

Dorisday13 Tue 21-May-13 09:20:54

Yes so it doesn't all fall apart! I have to retrieve the skins eventually though as my dd eventually shoves the whole lot in!!

Dorisday13 Tue 21-May-13 09:29:44

I'm off to buy peaches now smile

issimma Tue 21-May-13 11:51:36

Hi, can I join too? Doing a mix of purées and finger food, and he is about to have roast chicken and sweet potato for lunch grin.

Jellylorum Tue 21-May-13 21:11:56

I've been reading all the helpful tips on here and thought I'd join! My DS is 6.5 months and we've started with BLW. So far we're both really enjoying finding our mouths feet and seeing what works. Look forward to sharing hints and tips smile

leedy Tue 21-May-13 22:42:05

Just here to report that there is nothing funnier than the ferocious concentration of a baby trying to capture and eat a strawberry. The cross-eyed sweeping and gathering! The little legs kicking with excitement! The baby almost covered from head to toe in squashed fruit!

kaffkooks Tue 21-May-13 23:24:27

I've been reading this thread on and off for a while. My ds is 6 months and I'm doing a mixture of BLW and purées with him. Just wanted to share the fact that he ate a lot of broccoli this evening and now his bedroom stinks. I've opened a window but I think I'll be doing any night feeds in my room! Leedy, I agree that there is nothing funnier than a baby chasing food round the table.

HabitualLurker Wed 22-May-13 12:39:53

Thanks leedy and slightlysoupstained fusilli it is then. We actually have wholewheat in at the moment, but I'm assuming I shouldn't give that to him? All the literature seems to stress not giving wholegrain food at first - are you lot following that recommendation?

As it happens rigatoni is my very favourite pasta shape (yes, I admit, it is odd to have a favourite pasta shape..), so I'll be stocking up.

As someone has already said, try giving fruit with skins on. I was worried at first that it would be too difficult in terms of gagging (and I have got a prolific gagger/puker) but actually after just a few weeks of practice he got pretty good at eating the flesh and then just spitting out the skin.

Jellylorum Wed 22-May-13 17:53:58

On the slippery fruit front we've had success with ripe kiwi cut length-ways into quarters - gums off all the flesh and spits out the skin

Gurke Wed 22-May-13 18:16:50

Yes I also love the look of total concentration when he tries to pick up something he likes smile

I have a question for those of you with serial gaggers/pukers. So DS is now very good at picking up foods and gumming the hell out of them. But in the last few days he has started to 'bite' off (no teeth yet though) smallish pieces of whatever he is holding (e.g. apple slices, oat cookies, etc), but then inevitably gags and vomits as they move down his throat. He has now been throwing up at every meal of solids - sometimes a little, sometimes a lot. Is this something he will learn to sort out on his own, or should I be worried and do something about it? He is a refluxy baby anyway.

Any ideas would be great, thanks!

leedy Wed 22-May-13 20:42:38

Today's BLW hits: large piece of grilled pork chop to gum, wedges of mango. He's getting pretty good at figuring out how to pick up pieces of squashy fruit, as long as they're firm/large enough. He is also covered with mango....

sharond101 Wed 22-May-13 22:30:13

My DS is 1yr old tomorrow and still hasn't mastered the picking up of slimy fruit. He hates bananas too, any suggestions welcome.

Kyzordz Fri 24-May-13 21:14:12

Not been on for a while but have just caught up. Lovely to read of the success some of you have had smile

I did a first aid course to help with my confidence. Ds is 28w and has been having both finger foods and purees. I usually have to give him a loaded spoon as thats how he likes to eat puree. He likes to feed anything to himself and rarely lets me feed him. This did stress me but I have just given up. Am trying to think of the positive side of things - he will learn to feed himself eventually lol.

we have tried various purees, yoghurt, ready brek, and blw wise have tried toast, broccoli, carrot, cauliflower, butternut, sweet potato, green beans, oranges, banana and mango. Oh and cucumber. I think I've missed some but we have tried a few things. Today he had chicken and loved it.

why oh why does he ferociously bite off chunks and scare the crap out of me?

have been offering food three times a day and trying to ignore how much he eats. Broccoli carrot and banana were evident in nappies though! I struggle to know what to give at lunch or a meal where what we are having isn't suitable. For the past few days he hasn't had much and had nothing offered one day as my baby sister has been in hospital but all is well and she is home now so I will try to get back into it with gusto tomorrow

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