I don't get it.

(36 Posts)
fairy1303 Thu 17-Oct-13 20:46:29

DS is only 17 weeks so my freak out is premature BUT he is interested in food, always hungry despite having 7oz bottles every 3 hours (none overnight) so I'm not sure he will make it to 6 months (or is that not even a thing? see? clueless.)

HV did a talk the other day about purees if starting before 6 months, after 6 months anything you want but blended. so then when do they have it NOT blended? and do you literally just blend up a whole meal?? like Roast soup?!

And THEN I've been reading about BLW and that just throws a spanner in the whole thing anyway...

Please can someone very slowly and clearly explain it to me as if I were a small child.

I'm terrified and clueless.

JiltedJohnsJulie Sat 19-Oct-13 20:54:52

And there is usually a sleep regression around 4 months which some people interpret as hunger, it isn't and as others have said, if you think your baby is hungry just offer feeds more frequently.

Chunderella Sat 19-Oct-13 15:04:42

And thinking about it, if OPs baby is just about 4 months, he's probably growth spurting. It can be a tough time OP and a lot of people do mistake it for needing solids.

Artandco Sat 19-Oct-13 14:30:57

In the meantime, if baby seems extra hungry whilst they have a growth spurt just increase milk from every 3 hours to every 2- 2.1/2

Chunderella Sat 19-Oct-13 14:11:52

The 'food is for fun before one' maxim is debatable to say the least. Something to bear in mind, and I say that as someone with a DD who took to weaning at a glacial pace.

OP 6 months is the recommendation. The most current research shows that the system isn't ready until between 17 and 26 weeks and it's risky to offer solids before that. Hence 26 weeks catches everyone, whereas at say 23 weeks there's a X percent risk that the child being given solids will be one of those who isn't yet ready. There are certainly many people who have been weaned earlier than that, often with no identifiable ill effects, but that doesn't negate current research.

You don't necessarily have to blend stuff, no- many people do, many don't. Some babies refuse anything that isn't pureed. Others, like my DD, are the opposite and just don't like puree stuff at all. Most aren't so fussy, and I believe a significant minority will hoover up anything they're offered! As regards how they actually get the food, again it depends on the individual baby. Some are really keen to feed themselves, in which case blw may be a good option and indeed might be your only choice! Others, again like my DD, show no real interest in doing that for a long time, so you'll end up feeding them. There isn't a correlation between when a child is ready for solids and when they're able to feed themselves, but for some babies they happen around the same time. If your DS is really interested in food, I wouldn't be surprised if his first solids ends up being something he nicks off your plate.

JiltedJohnsJulie Sat 19-Oct-13 11:27:31

lem did you search for the youtube video? Sorry I can't do the link. smile

lem31 Fri 18-Oct-13 19:32:16

So glad you posted this. We've just started weaning and I feel the same. All very useful!

JiltedJohnsJulie Fri 18-Oct-13 15:23:12

We weaned dc1 early at it was awful, took ages to feed him a little bit of puréed veg or fruit and ages to prepare. Bottles every 3 hours is normal and not at all excessive at this age and taking an interest in food is normal too. It would be more of a worry if Lo wasn't interested in what you were doing.

I'd wean when your baby displays the signs of readiness. If that's before 26 weeks you should only give them fruit and veg, but they should be able to pick it up and feed themselves. If its after 26 weeks you can give them virtually anything. The few things to avoid are listed here.

Agree that baby's are just as likely to choke on purees as finger foods too. There's also a huge difference between gagging and choking. If you are worried, see if there are any baby first aid courses in your area.

And yes, if you wait till 6 months, you really can give them a roast dinner, no need to mash or purée. Have a search on youtube for "baby led weaning 6 months chicken" smile

mrsmartin1984 Fri 18-Oct-13 10:39:23

Babies are just as likely to choke on purreed food as on solids. The thing to do to make it safer is ensure that they are sat upright and that they feed themselves (that what they know what the food feels like before they eat it). Never feed my child or mushed up her food

www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2008/nov/05/foodanddrink

If you want to introduce spoonfed rice/purees a couple of tips from my day (both DD 7 and DS 5 were before blw came into existence)

1) Pointless trying to spoon anything until they hve lost the push reflex (ie their tongue automatically pushes stuff away if anything put on mouth)
2) When you start try and keep some foods "pure" in flavour. Ie try brocolli puree on its own, carrot puree on its own. If you mix the or only do pureed spag bol etc then they will not get used to the (sometimes odd if you think about it) flavours that are around.
3) If you have frozen a load of stuff and a few weeks later you want to use it but are on a "lumpier" stage then a handful of rice crispies are a great way to add texture to something you have already blitzed to perfect smoothness.

Mine are now brilliant eaters and pretty much always have been.

ReluctantCamper Thu 17-Oct-13 21:31:42

I read quite a few books, but the one I found most useful was 'Stress Free Weaning'. I got it from the library, and it's really worth a read.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Stress-free-Weaning-Teach-Yourself-General/dp/1444103059

I started around 5 months with purees, but from 6 months-ish gave DS things like pieces of avocado to gum a bit as well. I couldn't deal with exclusive BLW as I was obsessed with feeding DS up and didn't believe he'd get enough food if I wasn't spooning it in. I expect either way works out fine in the end though.

good luck!

scissy Thu 17-Oct-13 21:28:20

fairy it's fairly common for them to gag, but extremely rare for them to choke. Gagging is noisy and normal, choking is silent. Tbh if you go the traditional route, you'll still find them gagging once they start having lumps. My friend who did traditional weaning actually found gagging worse than I did because she wasn't expecting it. Of course, if you give your baby whole nuts or whole cherry tomatoes they are more likely to choke, but that's why it's advised not to give whole nuts to under 5s and to cut cherry tomatoes and grapes in half until some ridiculous age (5?7?)

As for nursery I'd ask them. Round here BLW is fairly common, so the nurseries are used to it and will feed your DC that way if it's what they're used to.

LifeOfPee Thu 17-Oct-13 21:27:18
sittinginthesun Thu 17-Oct-13 21:25:58

Ask nursery - ours used to purée or mash the main meals. Otherwise you had to bring your own food, which was a real faff. Mine were on blended lasagne by 9 months.

Honestly, get hold of a copy of an Annabel Karmel baby book. It will answer all your questions. grin

fairy1303 Thu 17-Oct-13 21:24:31

Hettienne -I like that, sounds a good mix between the elements of BLW I like and the more traditional way.

ToddleWaddle Thu 17-Oct-13 21:24:17

Around here the children's centres do weaning talks. Might be worthwhile seeing if there is one in your area.

scissy Thu 17-Oct-13 21:21:47

DD is 8 months and we do BLW, mainly because I find it easier to cook 1 meal for all of us and we can eat together. We used to put her in a high chair at dinner time with a piece of veg in front of her, one day she was ready and just started to eat it smile

If you're interested in this approach, I'd recommend the Baby Led Weaning Cookbook by Gill Rapley rather than the original, the first half is a concise summary of her original book, and the second half has lots of recipes in it - I've managed to greatly expand my cooking repetoire!

fairy1303 Thu 17-Oct-13 21:21:41

one more thing - he will be going to nursery at 9months, they provide food, will he eat normal food by then?

Sorry,I'm very slightly neurotic about this stuff - you should have seen me when I had to start trying to work out formula!

hettienne Thu 17-Oct-13 21:20:50

Around 6 months is safest, but never before 17 weeks.

I started with DS at about 5 months as he could sit well, pick up food and get it into his mouth. We gave him finger food from the start - roasted veg sticks, slices of soft pear, rice cakes. Also just mashed up what we were eating or spoonfed things like porridge.

I stuck to fruit, veg and rice until nearer 6 months but after that gave everything except whole nuts and honey. I never pureed anything, just mashed with a fork if necessary.

marriedinwhiteisback Thu 17-Oct-13 21:20:00

Dons flak jacket before even starting. But mine is nearly 19 and 6'2" and doesn't seem to have happened. He was a few weeks prem and bloody starving. At 3 to 4 weeks he gained 17 oz in 9 days on breast milk. At about 10 weeks he was downing 11oz at a time. At 12 weeks I gave up and introduced a little bit of baby rice. At 12 weeks +1 I gave him a spoon of pear puree, by 12+4 he was on a whole jar a day and by 13 weeks 3 jars a day. DD was not quite as starved but by 16 weeks she could wolf a ski yoghurt. She's quite dainty though and at 15 is 5'3" and 8 stone.

Mine were hungry - in those days the guidelines were 16 weeks unless your baby is particularly hungry. Mine were starvelings and still love their food. They are also healthy, bright and thoroughly rounded.

I'd just go with your instincts.

Never mixed in milk, except baby cereals...let them taste the food!

fairy1303 Thu 17-Oct-13 21:16:44

Thanks!

So - if I do for example, a delightful bit of pureed carrot, should i mix with formula? or can he just have the pureed carrot?
AND if I should mix in formula, how do you do it? literally make an oz and add it??

i like the idea of BLW... BUT do you really not mash it at all? dont they choke??

fieldfare Thu 17-Oct-13 21:14:44

Annabel Karmel has always done really good books on weaning with recipes etc.
You basically start with fruit and veg puréed smooth and then gradually make it blended, then lumpy, then chunks and then just cut up small.

Don't forget not to cook with salt, be careful about gravy or bought sauces, don't be afraid to try things a bit different with them, batch cook and use ice cube trays to freeze into blocks. If you do a few different ones then you can just grab out 1 block of mash, 1 block of broccoli and 1 block of cauli cheese for instance and you've got their dinner.

sittinginthesun Thu 17-Oct-13 21:13:13

My two were weaned just as advice was changing - DS1 was weaned at 4 months on advice of HV and DS2 was 6 months because he could clearly wait.

I just used the Annabel Karmel book. Have a look in the library, they usually have a copy.

I started with purées, and ds1 was on mashed food by 6 months. DS2 was far more interested in finger food.

I wouldn't over think it, tbh. Both my two eat well and we have never had any problems.

http://www.google.co.uk/url?url=http://books.google.com/books/about/Your_Baby_and_Child.html%3Fid%3DEXU-kmVpcagC&rct=j&sa=X&ei=TURgUq3cCMaM0AXMxICQCw&ved=0CDAQ_B0wAA&q=your+baby+and+child&usg=AFQjCNG4JPVFYQWWXau55zv8ZyqWX0we_g

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