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MMR or not, and where to go for single vaccs? Lone parent, would love advice

(183 Posts)
missperelman Fri 15-Mar-13 19:49:28

hello, i think i have decided to go for single vaccs for mumps and measles for my one year old daughter. i wondered if anyone knew where was best to go for this in London? the childrens immunisation clinic on harley st? is there cheaper, does anyone know? also, would you not bother with rubella until the child itself is of childbearing age. ??
confused as to which way to go, even to have them at all. but i think i will do mumps and measles separately. aaaargh. confused
laura
lone parent

seeker Sun 17-Mar-13 06:53:23

"thanks/ there seems to be so much talk of the 3 being administered together making baby sick. it' just a bit scary on your own with a 1 year old, without a car, but i suppose i could call 999 if anything really awful occurred. "

Is there? I don't actually know of any child who's had to be rusted to hospital with a reaction to vaccines. You're far more likely to need 999 if she falls downstairs- and that's pretty unlikely!

rosi7 Sun 17-Mar-13 07:53:13

The pharmaceutical companyGlaxoSmithKline GSK is taken to court by doctors. It is a fact - if some people want to ignore it - fine - but do not expect well-informed people to join into that and buy the fear game for much longer.

And certainly it is all a conspiracy theory - but strange enough - even the medical profession seems to become part of it now.

bruffin Sun 17-Mar-13 07:55:45

from mmr

iom adverse effects of vaccines:evidence and causality
There is also a recent study that found a far higher risk of anaphylaxis in single vaccines than the triple mmr

this one refers to anaphylaxis only found in single vaccines

seeker Sun 17-Mar-13 08:04:04

What are doctors taking GSK to court about? Link please.

rosi7 Sun 17-Mar-13 08:09:03
WinkyWinkola Sun 17-Mar-13 08:10:12

My dcs have had the MMR but I don't for a minute believe mumps is the big killer everyone bleats hysterically about.

90% of cases are actually asymptomatic.

I'm worried that they'll get it as adults which is far worse and slightly risky then for their fertility.

There is a lot of bull put about by all different groups. It is hard to sift through.

rosi7 Sun 17-Mar-13 08:10:33

What do we expect to happen if honest and well-meaning people are working in a dishonest and corrupt system?

WinkyWinkola Sun 17-Mar-13 08:10:59

And the blind faith in pharmaceutical companies is risible too.

Welovegrapes Sun 17-Mar-13 08:14:54

I'm not doing mmr - no evidence-based reasons why not, but DS reacted very badly to earlier vaccines and we have a lot of autoimmune conditions in the family. We are doing this:

Single measles now
MMR at 3 or 4 to mop up mumps and rubella

Offering singles in London are Babyjabs and City doc - I think City doc is cheaper.

BLOO3Z Sun 17-Mar-13 08:24:32

I dI'd put off the mmr my dcs where 8 an 10. When they had first dose, I left it late as dc1 had health issues at the time an I felt, the three together was just too much to take..they have just had their second dose at 14 an 16 as school was pestering me to get it done, I feel this was the right decision for us an neither have had any side effects as I feel that their immune systems coped better as they where older, I probably don't recommend leaving it as long as I have an I would probably get first one done pre school at least.

seeker Sun 17-Mar-13 08:31:31

"And the blind faith in pharmaceutical companies is risible too."

Absolutely.

I'm sorry, rosi- I don't speak German.

rosi7 Sun 17-Mar-13 08:39:26

Pity, yes, seeker, that this information has not been picked up by mainstream media nor by the English speaking world.

Is it not important?

seeker Sun 17-Mar-13 08:43:17

I don't know whether it's important or not- because I don't speak German. It could be the biggest scandal of the century or utterly trivial- you haven't given me th tools to find out.

there was a button on the page to translate to English. It wasnt about vaccines though but about a Diabetes drug (Avaandia) that was linked to heart attacks and broken bones

sorry Avandia not Avaandia

CatherinaJTV Sun 17-Mar-13 08:55:55

That Swiss article is not about vaccines, it is about the diabetes medicine Avandia. Those "brave" doctors are jumping the gravy train. There are single and tort suits in the tens of thousands in the US already. "Testing Medicines" has a chapter about this. Nothing to do with vaccines at all (but granted, with commercial interests and general sloppiness of regulatory oversight and failures in the publications process).

CatherinaJTV Sun 17-Mar-13 08:56:29

and I do read German grin

seeker Sun 17-Mar-13 08:57:18

But I thought the Avandia thing was widely known about? I certainly knew about it and I have no specialist interest or knowledge. I thought Rosi's link must have new information in it?

bruffin Sun 17-Mar-13 09:04:14

I feel this was the right decision for us an neither have had any side effects as I feel that their immune systems coped better as they where older

this is the most ridiculous statement i have ever heard. you think their immune system cant stand up to the tiny amount of antigen in a vaccine, but quite happily expect their immune system to stand up to the full blown disease.
information on how the immune system works re vaccines

CatherinaJTV Sun 17-Mar-13 09:05:40

nope, you are right seeker - there is no specialist knowledge about it. As said, it has made it into at least one book as an example already and the usual cloud of US lawyers (if we are rolling out the stereotypes this morning) is circulating the patients.

runningforthebusinheels Sun 17-Mar-13 09:57:47

I clicked on that 'cluster bomb' article thinking it was going to be a spoof.

seeker Sun 17-Mar-13 10:04:42

I hope it was!

BLOO3Z Sun 17-Mar-13 11:30:36

Bruffin I am well aware of the effects of children catching measles etc, I am not anti immunization! My reason not to do it was based on my child's past medical history, which you know nothing about! with hindsight I feel that they could of had it pre school at 4 but I still would not of given them it as a baby..especially for child who had other stuff to deal with.. I dI'd not have a crystal ball at the time!

Welovegrapes Sun 17-Mar-13 11:32:13

Thing is Blo, what you say makes perfect sense to me.

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