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Vaccinations and nursery schools

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Louise1010 Fri 13-Jul-12 00:04:37

This is my first post so forgive me if I do anything wrong!

I am just beginning to look at nursery schools for my 15 month old son, and I am a bit surprised that they don't seem to care whether or not he has been vaccinated. I expected it to be a requirement.

It seems incredible to me that I have to provide evidence of my cat's jabs to the cattery but when it comes to children anything goes.

Has anyone come across a nursery school in the UK that does require it?

ovenchips Tue 04-Aug-15 08:03:17

Zombie thread, innit?

StephAndIan Tue 04-Aug-15 07:51:31

If your child is vaccinated and the vaccine works - what are you so worried about if your kid is vaccinated?? I thought that was the purpose of vaccinating your kid??

futforbaby Sat 27-Jun-15 01:16:56

Agreeing with sideoffoot. If your kid is protected from getting ill from 've my vaccinated then why should you worry about unvaccinated spreading the germ to your vaccinaged kid?

Btw: actually in day care centres they should have a chart to tell them when it's okay for vaccinated kids to come back to day care centre. Because it is he vaccinated kids with spread the germs after they are vaccinated. If your day care doesn't tell your that, then there is a problem. Because mine did

SideOfFoot Mon 22-Jun-15 16:43:49

I've said it before (probably on this thread) but I'll say it again, if vaccines work, why would my unvaccinated child be a threat to your vaccinated child.

CharlestheDaddy Sat 20-Jun-15 12:52:14

Got to say I can't beleive how someone can say their vaccinated child is at risk from an un-vaccinated child. What Who Where? How can that be? I have athsma and almost died on many occasion. I am the first in my family on both sides to have this allergy in all of human evolution. I am the first generation of multiple vaccines. Dont force a needle in my children when I can see dangers for my self! Find alternatives or go your own road. P.S. I come from a very healthy athletical family I live in a densly populated poluted city!

bumbleymummy Sun 19-Aug-12 22:53:10

You mean me PJ?

I'm replying to people on this thread . If you don't want to post here then don't.

PigletJohn Sun 19-Aug-12 21:00:08

I agree with the person on the other thread who said "I thought this might do better with its own thread because the other one went off on a bit of a tangent."

bumbleymummy Sun 19-Aug-12 17:08:53

Piglet, it has also been discussed here. I was answering people's posts on this thread too becuase not everyone moved over to the other thread.

PigletJohn Sun 19-Aug-12 16:54:01

this is the thread about nursery schools.

"Aluminium in Vaccines" is over here

It's the one that starts "I thought this might do better with its own thread because the other one went off on a bit of a tangent."

bumbleymummy Sun 19-Aug-12 16:30:35

Had we PJ? Where did we do that?

PigletJohn Sun 19-Aug-12 15:30:31

oops, this is the thread about nursery schools.

"Aluminium in Vaccines" is over here

PigletJohn Sun 19-Aug-12 15:27:12

I thought we established that the level of aluminium in the body was measured regardless of its source?

bumbleymummy Sun 19-Aug-12 15:02:46

Just back...

Jo, if you read the ADSTR report you will see that it gives the MRL for oral Aluminium. That seems to be what people are basing the current 'it is safe' on. Thankfully, according to a conference report linked to on the other thread, people are still investigating the effects of Al being injected. I will look forward to those results.

PigletJohn Wed 15-Aug-12 16:06:23

can anyone prove that it doesn't?

bruffin Wed 15-Aug-12 15:54:06

Nothing PJ, but eating a turnip exactly 3 hours after having a vaccine may cause some sort of reaction.

PigletJohn Wed 15-Aug-12 15:45:48

What's wrong with my turnip analogy?

bruffin Wed 15-Aug-12 15:36:22

Lol
It will be the metal from the injection needle,
Its a pity MN HQ cant do a sticky or a page with links to all the research. It doesn't need to give advice just link to pages like the WHO one i gave on the thread about spreading out vaccines. It has a list of credible websites.

PigletJohn Wed 15-Aug-12 15:34:24

next time might be back to autism, or possibly change to vaccines causing infection.

If the question keeps changing, so must the answers.

seeker Wed 15-Aug-12 14:55:39

Do you think that some of us should archive
All these links for next time? Or will it not be aluminium then?

bruffin Wed 15-Aug-12 11:07:33

One last one, for anyone interested in the guidelines for ajuvicants in human vaccines

bruffin Wed 15-Aug-12 10:43:17

and another thought

The recommendations are based on how much aluminium consumed on a weekly basis (tolerable weekly intake),

bruffin Wed 15-Aug-12 09:42:27

Sorry Jothehot
As i said totally confused about what has been linked to before or notconfused

bruffin Wed 15-Aug-12 09:39:53

Honestly can't remember what has been linked and what hasnt

"The US Agency for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry (ATSDR) estimated these levels for infants taking into account the amount of aluminum a child would eat as well as receive by injection of vaccines. The body burden of aluminum from both sources is below the minimal risk level except transiently following vaccinations; since 50-70% of injected aluminum is excreted within 24 hours, this is believed to have no negative effect"
from this

which uses this study
"The calculated body burden of aluminum from vaccinations exceeds that from dietary sources, however, it is below the minimal risk level equivalent curve after the brief period following injection"

seeker Wed 15-Aug-12 07:48:29

No response? Does that mean everyone agrees with Jo?

JoTheHot Tue 14-Aug-12 07:25:49

bumble you're wrong about the ADSTR. From the link I gave earlier

'The US Agency for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry (ATSDR) estimated these levels for infants taking into account the amount of aluminum a child would eat as well as receive by injection of vaccines.'

But this isn't really the problem. If a new building is put up at your childrens' school, do you refuse to let them in it until you've re-run the structural engineer's calculations? The sums have been done by the people who are trained to do them. You are not trained to do them.

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