You were very kind (and knowledgable) last time!

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So I thought I would post again. My first and only thread was about the PC trainer throwing a bottle at DD's loan pony.

Well, we have just bought DD a much more suitable (for PC and competing) pony. I think I am allowed to do links? Here it is anyway! Sure it will get taken down if not.

The decision wasn't taken because of the incident. We loaned one of the farm ponies for hacking and for DD to be responsible for a specific pony. Then she decided she wanted to do gymkhana etc. The loan pony is a Section D, on occasion stroppy and ill mannered (but lovely too!) and far too strong for DD. Plus, she just doesn't want to do PC again (did it all years ago with owners daughters), would be a nightmare on camp as she hates being in and we knew it would be a matter of time only.

Our lovely and extremely knowledgable friends have taken a lot of their own time up seeing loads of ponies and this one seems to be a little dream. His owners are super too, very genuine and helpful, they clearly care deeply about him. I've had insurance company and vet confirmation that he's never had treatment, goes unshod, loads well etc. He's done all PC stuff apart from gymkhana, but we took the games equipment with us on the last visit and he was picking it up in minutes. He's so good, it's a battle with DD's current pony, this one does as he's told!!

Anyway, I know nothing about ponies but am learning quickly, particularly about how expensive they are (tow bar, tack, pony, insurance!!),

And I may ask some very daft questions, lots of them smile

Littlebigbum Thu 16-May-13 01:02:41

Ask away, Dd is a luckily girl

Unlined Thu 16-May-13 07:40:29

If the ad is genuine then he sounds fab. Has she jumped him? Reading between the lines he sounds sharp when SJ, which is not necessarily a problem - far from it according to my own dcs! But be aware! Good luck!

Mumofthreeteens Thu 16-May-13 08:52:00

He looks and sounds just gorgeous. Good luck.

WillowKnicks Thu 16-May-13 09:12:07

Wow...I'd buy himgrin. He looks & sounds great!!

Let us know how you get on.

Thank you! I am quite taken with him myself, and I know nothing smile

Yes, he's a sharp jumper - sort of point and go, just takes himself over the jumps really, according to my friend. He's so so much slighter than the loan pony so, the first time my DD jumped him, she leaned too far forward (which she can do anyway) and almost went over his neck, banging her nose. He didn't flinch at all, just stopped calmly until she settled again. Friend said that was excellent.

Friend has really put him through his paces when she hopped on as he's not done gymkhana before, he stopped and started to voice instruction, in fact, most things are voice command, loan pony needs tons of leg (if that's the right terminology). Friends DD rode him too with mock games and he coped really well then came for a nuzzle with me and I was sold smile

So far, I have purchased - travel boots, head collar, lead rein, travel blanket, light weight blanket, hoof cleaner and paint (clear), saddle but not girth or stirrups etc as there's loads at the farm to try first. Numnah for general use, he's coming with bridle but might need a new bit. No food as he's out now but just has a standard feed anyway. DD has various brushes etc anyway. Oh - feed bin and scoop smile He is going to look like a smurf as DD wanted all blue!

Have I forgotten anything major?

Tow bar fitted and we are now insured for one of the farm trailers (gulp, scared of towing!)

Callisto Thu 16-May-13 11:00:31

He sounds fab, I bet your DD is in love already!!

Have you towed a trailer before? It is really easy, as is reversing, but you must take it slowly, especially around corners and up and downy bits. Is there anyone who can give you some lessons before you take your pony out in it?

Wolfiefan Thu 16-May-13 11:03:59

He's gorgeous. I want a bigger version please!
<shamelessly wanting a horse emoticon!>

Thank you.

Callisto - no I haven't towed before. I am nervous, probably more of the thought of it than the reality. When we go to training, there's always been enough trailers going for us to use space there, or my friends DH has towed. Or the owner of our loan pony has towed etc etc. We can use one of the farm trailers whenever we need.

I think that there will be folk around to help me get used to towing, I think that I just need to bite the bullet and tow (with or without pony).

Is there anything that I need that I haven't mentioned? We collect on Sunday, owners wanted one more day with him for their DC to say goodbye. I have promised to send loads of photos, they are pleased he will be so loved. Our friends at the farm have rearranged the other ponies so he can go in a smaller field, not with the hard nuts in the top field smile

Callisto Thu 16-May-13 12:57:09

Also, don't forget your trailer might be wider than your car!

If you've got the basics - headcollar and leadrope and secure grazing with access to fresh water, you can leave everything else until it occurs to you that you need it.

CountryCob Thu 16-May-13 14:20:05

He looks lovely congratulations!

CountryCob Thu 16-May-13 14:21:58

Oh I just thought of an item, large orange horsewear wash bag for when the numnah and rugs go in your machine, well worth it!

Oh that's a good one. I have recently stuck a numnah in the washing machine with dire consequences........................

Will he need a settling in period? There's a two day friendly competition the weekend after next, which we had hoped DD could participate in. Then the week after (half term), there's some rallies organised. So it would be good if he got stuck in, even if he doesn't know games etc. Or should I let him settle first? We will go on a few gentle hacks etc next week initially.

I know our friends will say, never mind all that, let him do stuff!

Booboostoo Thu 16-May-13 17:06:45

He looks lovely, how exciting for you all!

Just a couple of practical thoughts: I take you have had him vetted? If not you should strongly consider it. When you first get him home do expect him to be a bit unsettled so try to have him out as much as possible, don't feed him any hard feed, supervise your daughter when handling him and take it easy (i.e. lunge him the first day to give him a chance to blow off some steam, ride him in the school for a couple of days and then hack him in company with another very calm horse).

You also say you bought him a new saddle, saddles should be fitted to the horse by an experienced saddle fitter (word of mouth is the best way for finding someone good). Ill fitting saddles cause pain which in turns causes bad behaviour and problems so it's important to get this right.
Good luck!

Thank you - all this advice is just exactly what I need.

I haven't had him vetted. I have his full medical history from the insurers and a full vet history too (both clear) and his passport. Also, our friends have done ponies for years (farming family, their farm wil be his home), three have seen and consider him fine. However, if that's not enough I shall certainly consider vetting. Would you consider that I should?

No school but a training field to use, hope that's sufficient. He's out already and not being fed so I won't change this. I plan on being at the farm a lot and getting to know him. Slightly difficult to explain the farm situation but always someone with experience milling about. It's certainly not posh, a proper working, stuff everywhere farm, motto 'the only thing we don't have on this farm is pain' (towards animals, kids get called pains a lot smile).

They have moved the ponies around to put him in a small field with two (poss three) calm ponies, he will hack with these and the other ponies who PC ponies through and through.

Saddle on a trial and the GP version of current saddle, but yes, fully take on board this point and will rethink if required asap.

Hope I haven't said anything daft in my ignorancesmile

Booboostoo Thu 16-May-13 19:10:03

Not daft at all, sounds like you are being sensible and know what you are doing.

Different people have different views on vettings. Some people do not vet 'cheaper' horses but for me it costs as much to look after a sick/unable to work cheap horse as it does a sick/unable to work expensive horse. The vetting is not a guarrantee that nothing will happen to the horse it's a snapshot of a moment in time and a vet's judgement of whether the horse is suitable for the job it is being bought for (so a horse could be suitable as a hack but not a top level competition horse due to minor lameness issues). The vetting covers things no expert looking at the horse could know, like checking the eyes, the heart, etc. as well as putting some pressure of work on the horse to check it is still OK after that (horses are worked in then re-examined which often brings up problems). 5* vettings also include taking blood which can then be examined in the future for sedatives which may have been masking bad behaviour (you'd be surprised how many people come to regret not having done this). It's a personal choice but for me it's a relatively small amount of money for some peace of mind.

If you possibly can turn him out on his own right next to the others for a while to check all is going well and introduce him to his field companions one at a time gradually.

Unlined Thu 16-May-13 22:06:27

I would definitely vet. It costs a couple of hundred quid but totally worth it for peace of mind.

mrslaughan Fri 17-May-13 07:42:23

I would vet him too - consider it insurance.
It may through up a stiffness or something , which you are happy to "live" with , but at least you know what you are getting to a certain extent (vetting is by no means a guarantee).
The head of the riding school has been around horses her whole life and was buying a young horse for her daughter to bring on and compete..... She went through 2 that turned out to have huge health issues (problems with legs - thy were screwed, a problem when you discipline is jumping) before she got a good one.... So being around horses your whole life is no guarantee.

miggy Fri 17-May-13 08:04:14

he looks and sounds lovely, the best kind of pony by the sound of it, one that has genuinely been loved.Im sure your daughter will have years of Fun.
If he is a PC pony he will be used to being carted about and Im sure the activities you have planned will be fine, we bought a pony for my son a few years ago and he took it to camp the following week and it was actually a really good chance to get to know each other.
Re vetting, its your choice really. At that price and with access to his history, I personally wouldnt. Its a snapshot of the horse on the day really and little ponies are generally fairly good with leg problems etc.
And lastly welcome to the dark side of Mounted Games, soon you will be spending your weekends schlepping round the country doing this
PS start saving for the lorry now wink

Callisto Fri 17-May-13 08:09:54

I didn't vet either of DD's ponies, but one cost £170 and one cost £800. If I was going to spend over £1500 on a pony or horse I would probably have it vetted.

As for settling in - I would see how the pony is really. He may need a couple of days, he may need a couple of weeks or longer. Just get a routine going with him as soon as you get him home and he will settle more quickly. Horses love routine.

PestoSwimissimos Fri 17-May-13 08:34:12

thank you for the YouTube link miggy

And good luck with Merlin OP, he sounds fab smile

Unlined Fri 17-May-13 10:32:01

he does sound fab. In fact I am looking for one just like him but in the bottom half of the country if anyone knows of anything grin

Oh man, how fast are those ponies? smile Gulp. I hear good stuff about the MGA. Less sniffy than PC according to our friends?

Thanks again for all the advice, you are all so kind. To vet or not to vet, that is the question........................

I did bargain for him btw, and didn't pay asking price. I found it hard to ascertain what's a reasonable price to pay tbh. Our friends have the uncanny ability to find excellent ponies for pennies but they have the expertise to bring them in a way that we can't. We needed a good, solid, well behaved pony for DD (and myself!) so I guess the price goes up. However, on the other hand, I went on the PC classified website and saw the prices that similar ponies are advertised for and consider that we haven't done so bad.

He definitely is loved and 100% will be from us, even if we lack experience. Apparently, it's one of the reasons they sold him to us rather than another family. I have promised pictures and updates etc.

I need now to consider insurance. This isn't something I have researched at all so need to get up to speed asap. Would be interested to hear who NOT to consider?

ps - we can afford insurance, just haven't researched. smile

Petplan have quoted £46 per month!! £20!

Unlined Fri 17-May-13 11:01:35

i have NFU and its just under 50 a month, thats with 5,000 vet bills and a 150 excess plus third party liability, ours hunt though so that puts premiums up. The girls are insured through the pony club.

Some insurers won't insure without a vet certificate - at least mine won't!

CountryCob Fri 17-May-13 11:47:41

Mine is NFU insured as well, expensive (£62) but they are so good if there is a problem. Mine got kicked in the field and chipped elbow, when it wasn't healing vet said send him to newmarket I phoned nfu and they just said ok, didn't have an operation in the end and came sound but was so nice not to have to argue the toss with an insurer at that difficult time. Up til then I had three years of not having the vet for anything and from time to time considered it a bit expensive but so glad I kept up good cover as got all my money back - vet xray visits cost over £500 a pop, plus they paid for physio for months afterwards.

I would say vet the pony for your piece of mind but keep the results in perspective, at 12 with a bit of work behind him they are likely to find some injuries/ faults etc but this does not mean he is not suitable for what you want to do. Vetting is quite risky for the vets concerned and they are very cautious. I had a full vet when I bought my gelding and he actually failed the flexion test on one of his hind legs, he was 12 and also objects to trotting on quickly with pins and needles after they have held up the leg. On balance I already knew the horse and he was still a good buy and I was happy he was sound at the time so I went ahead as in the round he is worth it and good to handle etc which isn't something they get marks for on the vet! Five years later still sound on that leg so was a good call. However if they had found a heart murmur I would maybe have seen it differently, so I would get a vet for information but don't worry too much if they bring up things, if something is found try to keep it in perspective and take time to consider what those problems might mean to you and maybe do another post at that stage?

Unlined Fri 17-May-13 11:57:13

i thnk my insurance was less because I had a five star vetting. vetting actually threw up respiratory noise but further scope proved he was ok.

Booboostoo Fri 17-May-13 22:14:40

There are different kinds of insurance:
- third party liability insurance: for me this is a must, it's not very expensive, it's available through membership of various bodies (like the BHS) and protects you in case your animal causes harm or damage to persons or property.

- vet fees insurance: cover varies depending on a number of factors.

a. premium: the higher the premium, generally the higher the cover. If you come across a really good deal read the small print carefully for exclusions, it may be that the cover is much narrower than other policies. As far as I know insurance companies only cover you for one claim for a year, after that exclusions apply which can affect long term conditions,

b. excess: the higher the excess you are willing to pay the lower the premium but it may mean that you are only insuring for a catastrophic emergency and not for many common medical problems and accidents,

c. value of horse: the more expensive the horse the higher the premium,

d. activities: some activities cost more to insure for as they are more risky,

e. loss of use: decent loss of use policies are exceptionally expensive, most people take a risk with respect to this.

It's worth asking around for reputable insurers as the last thing you want when you have a sick animal is for the insurer to delay treatment by not agreeing to pay up.

Eve Mon 20-May-13 14:41:56

Strongly recommend trailer reversing lessons, mine cost £60 a few years ago and mean I don't turn up everywhere. 2 hours early so I don't get stuck & have room to turn.

Most hgv places offer them.

Eve Mon 20-May-13 14:44:44

Only issue with mga is the distances & travel involved, to to it seriously invokes travelling length & breadth of country.

Not all pc's are the same , speak to a few local ones to find one you like. Ours is great... And that's speaking as someone who was reluctant to join in case of snootiness!

miggy Mon 20-May-13 14:49:23

I know Eve, its a nightmare. we are away most weekends at the moment and consider 3 hrs travel to be "near". Generally its 4-5hrs (usually involving M25 on friday night).
Sadly PC stops games at 15 and its the only thing DS loves to do so I make the effort.
OP if near the advert location is not in a bad place for MGA though, better than down south.

Eve Mon 20-May-13 15:57:27

my son loved mounted games, but I just couldn't face the travel especially as I work fulltime. Would also have need to buy a lorry.

You are a more committed mother than me!

After my reversing attempts at the weekend I definitely need lessons for just this aspect of towing at the least! Thanks, I will look into this, might be useful. I found hitching up the trailer fine and towing fine actually, but reversing threw me completely!

Thanks again for the detailed posts re insurance, in particular booboostoo, as that got me thinking about what aspects of cover we need/already have. Both DC are covered by a specific Youthguard sports policy covering their riding and rugby, this has significant and thorough personal accident cover. PC membership covers public liability so I really needed vets fees as my priority. He's also doing the less risky activities etc. With these caveats, I have gone with for £20 per month (obviously that's not including the cost of my other policy and PC membership so in reality, it's more than this).

He's here, we didn't vet, based on overall price of pony and medical history so far. For better or for worse smile. He was a little nervous obviously but generally still pretty calm, just rather tense and twitchy at new sounds etc. Just fed him, brushed him and left him to settle in the field. Did tack him up to check saddle and tack etc.

DD is using another pony for her competition at the weekend, which I am glad about as this will let him settle. She plans just feeding, brushing and a couple of light hacks this week. She will be very busy actually, training on another pony for the comp, getting to know Merlin and feeding her loan pony, which I have said she should until the end of the month.

Hope that sounds like a plan anyway!

Previous owners were gutted, hope that's a good sigh smile Promised loads of picutes and updates.

Booboostoo Mon 20-May-13 17:12:49

That's great news (the new arrival)! I hope he settles in really well!

You are right to take it easy with him, DD should take her time doing new things with him as they need to get to know and trust each other. However, get some work into him so that he doesn't get too full of energy. The best thing would be for you to lunge him. 20 minutes a day (10 minutes at the start spent in walk on both reins and then 10 minutes walk and canter on both reins) will take the edge off him. It's a good idea to lunge him before DD gets on for the first few times as well.

Thanks booboostoo, will do this.

He is now kept in a much bigger field than at his last home. This has given him the opportunity to fly up and down it at will! Our friends said he was watching him during the day and did I realise that he can really shift and that he picks up his feet beautifully, far better than most of the other ponies.

Well, it was difficult to see how fast he might be on intial inspection and I know nothing about ponies so I couldn't actually take any credit for this smile

I thought he was pretty nervous of the farm machinery and slightly twitchy in genreral which had worried me a bit but again, our friends said, no, not nervous, alert and receptive and slightly unsure obviously but they have brought ponies to the farm that have freaked, this is really very calm, he just needs a week or so to settle.

DD needs to talk to him more too I think, although she caught him yesterday no problem and he let her lead him to where they feed him easily.

He's loud though, blimey! smile

tackedoff Tue 21-May-13 11:32:33

He sounds stressed. It should settle in a week or so. Try not to leave him on his own very much. Good luck!

Thanks. I have been at the farm this morning and he's happily eating grass with his field friends. I gave him a couple of carrotts smile. His body language was calm, he pricked up his ears and looked over when I called his name. I spoke gently to him loads etc, stroked him etc. He then wandered off to find his friends.

DD will be down this afternoona and I will go down tomorrow and do some poo picking in the field smile

Er carrots lol at my lack of concentration.

I don't want him to be too stressed btw, poor thing.

Quick update.

DD went on a light hack tonight with 4 other ponies. They then went in the field and did some easy jumps, which apparently he was 'popping' with ease and loving. My friend was watching them surreptitiously and he was loving it she said.

Field politics seems to have settled too. He's nuzzling the ponies in the other field over the fence and all is calm in his own field too. He's even a little protective of the foal in the field. Have been poo picking tonight for an hour, chatting to the ponies and watching.

Sure there will be good and bad days but a solid start given he's been here only a couple if days.

miggy Tue 21-May-13 21:56:55

Excellent stuff smile

tackedoff Thu 23-May-13 11:04:33

Good. My dds pony who is a saint really was quite unsettled for a week or so. Lots of puffing and blowing at me, was a bit of a sod to our other pony, lots of running up and down. Also he refused lots of jumps at a SJ rally in the first week (probably shouldn't have taken him) hmm

6 weeks on and he's as easy as pie. Whickers to me (whereas before I clearly made him feel a bit stressed out), stands like a rock for grooming and while I make a right mess of his bridle (have been doing it for 35 years can never work it out as am really unspatially aware!). And at the SJ rally last night he only refused once and that was when a peacock wandered in front of the jump so we'll let him off smile

tackedoff Thu 23-May-13 11:06:59

Oh and last night when I was brushing his mane he turned his head round and rested his muzzle on me #melts

Butkin Fri 24-May-13 12:24:38

Nothing to add except smile !

Quick update and question.

He's settled so well. We've been at a competition all weekend but the farm have texted with updates, he's been lying chilling in the shade all together in a line with his field friends a lot and everything is calm smile

We got back yesterday evening at 6pm and DD caught him from the field with ease, gave him a good brush down etc and a very small feed to help with the bonding etc. He was calm and responded to her instructions. They have gone on a hack today and brought him to our door!! All 5 ponies very relaxed in each others company. So pleased for DD smile. He hasn't flinched at traffic or the strange surroundings. Nuzzling the other ponies a lot.

My question is about his legs! My friends at the farm have all commented on his lovely 'beautiful' legs! However, he's so slight (we need a new head collar, pony size is too big), he is all leg, very slim too they are. He's had a couple of little scratches on his legs this week I have noticed. His previous owners used boots for competition work (jumping mainly) and travel only but I wondered if you can get boots for when they are turned out? Or, do ponies just get small scratches etc and I am worrying about nothing?

I would emphasise that they are tiny nicks/scratches only, just two early on in the week when field politics was at it's height but I wouldn't want him hurt at all. Plus, I know gymkhana is tough on their legs so want to ensure he's ok.

Also, he's unshod and always has been, his previous owners used hoof oil but the farm are not big fans and prefer to only use something if their ponies feet are dry. What is the best thing to do here?

He has a busier week coming up after a week of mainly just settling in. We are going to a training centre all day Thursday and a rally on Friday, hacking and PC training smile

tacked off - sorry, your pony sounds fab! I just look at a bridle and it gets tangled up smile

I did tow this weekend and reverse though smile

Butkin Mon 27-May-13 20:16:15

You shouldn't need boots in the paddock. Boots, as a generalisation, can cause rubs and should only be worn when really necessary ie when jumping, riding in heavy ground, or if you have a history of brushing or overreaching. Buy some sort of antiseptic spray - usually a purple colour -and just apply if he actually breaks the skin.

We use hoof oil in competitions but don't bother at home. If he has a history of hoof problems probably best to toughen them up from inside through good diet and supplements.

Thanks for this information. He has no history of hoof issues and the farm apply hoof oil for competitions too so that makes sense.

They have the antiseptic spray there too (blue) and did use some on his first scratch as a precaution as I was flapping. Not sure if they would have done on their own ponies but think they were humouring me!

So much to figure out smile

Hack went well, they were out for an hour and a half and managed a couple of gallops too! They have set up a cross country route over the fields for the morning, he's going to be a happy, fit and well worked boy.....

Booboostoo Tue 28-May-13 08:11:59

Some people use boots for the field and they can prevent some injuries but they cannot be left on 24/7 because they cause rub injuries. I take my chances with mine with no boots. You may want to use boots for jumping as it is a higher risk activity, and they would only be on for specific times.

Washing any cuts and applying antiseptic is usually enough to help them heal.

If his hoofs are good I would not touch them. In general in dry weather you may need something to moisturise them, in wet weather something to dry them out (and the frog) and if the feet become brittle something to harden them up. Kevin Bacon and Keratex do good products. For an all round feeding supplement for hoofs nothing can beat Farrier's Formula for my money.

Booboostoo Tue 28-May-13 08:19:14

Sorry I just saw the x-country post and wanted to add. Your DD and the pony should be very confident over showjumps before they go anywhere near solid fences. Even small, home made x-country fences are much more solid than showjumps and any little mistake can have much more serious consequences. Also the course should be set up by someone who really knows what they are doing and always check that portables are securely fixed to the ground (a x-country fence that is not secured to the ground will tip forwards if hit by a horse causing the horse to have a rotational fall, by far the most dangerous fall for a rider as the horse falls on them, this can happen at any size fence not just 'big' ones).

I don't want to scare the life out of you but I do want to point out that cross country fences always deserve respect.

Thanks, advice gratefully received.

I doubt they will be doing anything at all today as the weather here is horrible.

I probably used incorrect terminology tbh re cross county (I used to run seriously, cross country means off road in my book!). Given they have acres to play with at the farm in terms of where they can go, I think that they have planned a route to hack over the fields etc and maybe cross one or two shallow steams I think, rather than jumping. They have a specific field set up for jumping 'normal' jumps.

Sorry to have caused confusion.

Can you give the Farrier's Formula even when not feeding? DD had only carried on feeding him to help with the bonding and catching, she didn't yesterday as he's happy being caught and doesn't need the extra, he's in lovely shape.

I am probably asking questions that make me sound like a numpty smile

Booboostoo Tue 28-May-13 13:27:00

Ah sorry I misundertood! I thought they were going to jump cross country fences, which, unlike show jumps, are solid fences which do not collapse if you hit them. They should be fine riding across the country, i.e. through fields etc!!! Sorry!

I give all of mine FF all the time as the quantity is small and shouldn't make a difference to anything unless you have a horse that is really, really prone to lami or has other very specific feeding needs. Your DD is right not to feed him everytime she catches him otherwise he will come to expect it and may get funny about being caught without food. Ideally your DD should also feed him in a stable away from the other horses, if she goes into a field with a food bucket she might get mobbed by the other horses (apologies if you are already aware of this!!!).

No, it was me explaining in laymans terms what I meant, must keep up, must keep up!

They have had a good long session of jumping in the field then a gentle, slow paced hack. Been riding most of the day! He's been a little star at the jumping, guiding her safely over everything and even stopping if he sensed she wasn't sure. He also jumped a fence when the pony who was leading swerved round to avoid, which is a very good thing I think?

He's slightly impatient standing too long and 'paws' the ground a little bit but DD just says no and pats him on his neck and he stops. She's been talking to him a lot, calmly and often.

Again I didn't explain very well, DD catches him from the field with a treat or his garlic lick, which he adores, then leads him out and tethers him in the yard to feed. First two days he didn't like being caught and on Friday when one of the mares was in season. Last two days he's walked over to DD, which again I think is a good thing?!

She hasn't fed him the last two days either, just tethered and brushed him. Or tacked up etc.

And thanks for the info, he's on bog standard food, hi fi original. Gets an extra vitamin in winter. Has no health issues that I know of from vet and insurance history so I would assume I am ok to give?

Thanks so much for your help so far.

Booboostoo Tue 28-May-13 17:48:33

He sounds absolutely brilliant! He is a little gem to have jumped a fence another horse refused and it sounds like you are doing all the right things with him! Your DD is very right to pat and relax him if he is pawing and getting a tad anxious to get going. If ever there comes a time when that is enough she can always allow him to walk , do a circle and then ask him to stand again. It doesn't sound like he needs this at the moment but if he ever needs it there is nothing wrong with letting a horse move off a bit to use up a bit of forward energy.

Farrier's Formula shouldn't cause any issues. See how it goes, if his hoofs are really good then clearly he doesn't need anything, if they get a bit weak you can always give FF.

You are welcome! I am so glad it's all going so well!!

Thanks, I passed the extra tip on to my daughter about letting him do a circle, which she thought was a great idea, and remembered her friend needs to do this sometimes with her pony smile

I am sure I will be back for more tips and advice, DD says his teeth need a clean so I need to research this now!!

I am trying to to pester at the farm all the time asking questions, I am sure they don't mind but i want to try and learn myself too smile

There is nothing horsey people love more than handing out advice! It can often be very specific to them, but it's always useful. A newbie at our yard is asking loads of questions and is always telling me to let her know if she's doing it "wrong". I think it's great to be open to suggestions, however I always sy "this is how I do it" rather than "this is how it should be done"!

Everyone has their own way, and by asking questions you can work out what suits you best - never hesitate to ask.

Just to update you all, it's all going really well, it's like he's always been here smile

He's taking to gymkhana really well, trying his hardest. Born to jump though, which is giving DD ideas! He's easy to catch and very obedient, if that's the right word. Slightly twitchy, ears prick up for everything.

The farrier came out last night and filed his feet. He advised not to have him shod as his feet were super and not to give/do anything extra ref his feet so that's good.

A small miracle even occurred on Monday in that the dentist came out, removed the plaque on his teeth but didn't charge as so little needed doing.

I suspect this will be the first and last time he costs me less than I had

Ponks Fri 14-Jun-13 22:54:27

He sounds like a little star, I hope you keep updating us on how he is going.

Fredstheteds Sun 16-Jun-13 22:32:35

Advise you to go and have a tow lesson ...... Just checking your licence as us under 35 s have to do a test

Lovesswimming Mon 17-Jun-13 10:12:23

Just noticed your insurance, if is underwritten by E&L then I would seriously consider cancelling and going with another company. E&L are well known for lower insurance quotes but also well known for it bring very difficult to have pay out. When they do (with a big 'if they do' 1st) it takes months and alot of stress. I do know people who have had a payment but only after a fight. If you do an Internet search you will find its the one with 'barge pole' highlighted by most people. I use Stoneways and have had a £5k payout for one pony (including an MRI scan) and a £3k payout on another, with no issues. Other horses I look after are with NFU and had £7k payout (for 2 issues at once). And a payout for laser removal of a sarcoid.
If its not E&L then completely ignore this! But I'm pretty sure they use a few different names. Good luck with everything x

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