looking for a pony for to keep for life

(59 Posts)
booksinbed Wed 05-Dec-12 10:15:55

After recently choosing the wrong pony for me and resultant loss confidence as evidenced by bonkers posts...!!! followed by lots of support from lovely folk on this forum, i have started loaning a pony again and love it and realise what type of pony i need.

.Am now putting out feelers to start the process of looking to buy and thought i wd check on here.
I need to not rush as i did before and what i wd really like is -

pony up to 14 2 hh.
pref male but most important a non" distant" nature .but a loving nature that attactches to me and actually likes fuss and cuddles.I realise that its not just the riding its the relationshio that is equally important to me as you spend so much time on the ground and i just want that relationship as its important to me and that is what ive learnt so i have to listen to this.Feel a bit soft but hay ho.!!While im on the subjet i adore greys and adore big eyes,its sounds silly but im trying to be honest with myself to try and get my match.
A confidence giver - that has brakes ,does not nap or nip ,good to load,and enjoys hacking out.
I am 8 half stone five foot one and a half so i wonder if there are any mothers dream ponys that are very safe that any teen has ougrown.i think that 13 3 to 14 2 hh wd be good range.
Im not a very experinced rider but am quite confident - did a cx course at weekend on my loan just avoded jumps as my loan does not jump.
i wd really offer a loving and consistant home and would be having lessons,hacking out ,cx and my dream is to drag hunt.i wd def do the hunt training sessions here which are endurance type rides in big groups for stamina building /fitness.Charity rides also.
Nice strides - pref slow trot to fast and heavier set ponies such as m and m or cob type.love long manes .

If anyone can recomened a fantastic lovable pony then please post.thanks .I may wish to loan with view to buy as i owe it to pony to get this right.im north west but willing to travel for right pony.

CatPussRoastingOnAnOpenFire Wed 05-Dec-12 11:32:16

Hello, we have a 12.3 newforest mare, who has carried up to 12stone 13 stone blush in fleabitten grey, who is under used, understimulated and underappreciated! She is 12years old, excellent brakes, a bit if a dumb blonde! grin Hacks alone or in company, never been to a show, loves to be in front, has a nice jump and nice dressage paces. We think she would hunt well. She can be cheeky, but only has the same 3 naps on predictable repeat. If you ride her often she gives up! grin She has taught my daughter a great deal and built her confidence no end. She would happily live alone, currently in a mixed herd. A beautiful girl, look very spanish. We are in North Essex near A12. pic1 pic 2

CatPussRoastingOnAnOpenFire Wed 05-Dec-12 11:33:14

She ticks quite a lot of your boxes! smile

CatPussRoastingOnAnOpenFire Wed 05-Dec-12 11:33:53

Bugger, just seen you are in NW! sad

booksinbed Wed 05-Dec-12 11:38:16

Yes she does.Is she affectionate and does she tolerate or enjoy fuss??.Is she good on the ground.What do you mean by cheeky please??Is her trot slow is h or fast and sort of spikey cant think of anther word.!! She is a stunner.ps what does she do when she napds .does she need a expeienced rider or a novice - ie me

booksinbed Wed 05-Dec-12 11:39:44

She looks adorable but i wonder if 12 3 too small - i ride 13 3 to 14 2.,,,

CatPussRoastingOnAnOpenFire Wed 05-Dec-12 12:02:09

Well im 5'3 the fatty who started with her, DD is 5', she does take your leg up. She has always been ridden by adults. I'd say she is affectionate and would love 1 on 1 attention, she never gets it here. If you tie her up to do stuff she just nods off. For cheeky, I'd say she just has lots of character, not a biter or kicker, just a fiddler with you!
She can trot at walking speed or extend out to a beautiful dressage extension. Not bouncy. Long and low if ask properly. Canters slower than she trots, Very bendy, got lots of dressage in there. Naps are 1/ When you first ask for upwards transitions she will try to turn in, (inside hand up, outside leg on) 2/ She will pop into a whizzy trot if you dont half hault her, 3/ if all else fsils, park and pretend to pee!
TBH, 1 good lesson and you'd have them cracked forever! Shes a real marmite pony, If you sit on her and you're right, you'll know it.
She has been ridden by exp and novice, as I said, if you fit you fit. Good hands are more important than experience. She was broken by a novice, and I put DD12 on her as a fairly quivering wuss, and they have done wonders for each other. Molly has gived her the conficence to move on and break in her babies.
She came here as a yearling from the forest and has been here ever since.

Booboostoo Wed 05-Dec-12 12:07:41

Do you have an instructor? Finding the right pony is always difficult but having someone knowledgeable with you can be a great help. Most instructors will go with clients on viewings.

Also you may want to clarify your requirements a bit. Drag hunting is one of the most demanding types of hunting and it is unlikely that you will find a family friend type pony who also drag hunts. Also when you say 'nice strides' people may read this to mean 'nice paces' which refers to a pony suitable for dressage, something which doesn't seem to be part of your requirements.

Have you ever jumped cross country? If not it might be best to get some lessons at your local RS (start with SJ as you need to be confident over SJs before you go anywhere near solid fences).

From what you say you want you need a family friend type of first pony, safe hack in traffic and open spaces, alone and in company, good to handle in all respects, suitable for a novice adult to have fun hacking and introduce her to small competitions, e.g. walk/trot tests and clear round SJ. It sounds like you'd be better off with a kick along type, in which case you do trade safety and a very steady temperament, for a bit of speed and ooomph!

booksinbed Wed 05-Dec-12 12:07:42

I know whatyou mean re marmite pony.my Dd has one others did not want and its a total bond.Wish you were nearer!!!

CatPussRoastingOnAnOpenFire Wed 05-Dec-12 12:11:22

sad We're not desperate to be rid, If you're ever passing....grin

mrslaughan Wed 05-Dec-12 14:06:26

Check out safecobs on facebook. First my disclaimer - i don't work for her, know her, or bought a horse from her, but when i finally get back to the point where i can afford to buy a horse, she will be one of my first stops.
Its fun viewing anyway - i am addicted (and am not the only one) -lia (i think that is her name) posts a video everyday of the work she is doing with the horses in "safecobs bootcamp" - i have learnt alot, but also seeing her work through with the horses gives you alot of faith in a horse you might purchase from her.
Someone in the tack room has bought a horse from her.

Banterpanther Wed 05-Dec-12 14:34:50

Safe cobs and Hacking Horses also attracted my attention and I will definitely call Lia when I am looking to buy

booksinbed Wed 05-Dec-12 21:44:36

bump ...x

JRsandCoffee Thu 06-Dec-12 23:16:54

Have you considered a Dales? I may be biased as I loved mine to pieces but am not alone in thinking they are a great pony for an adult. The DPS sales list is worth a look and sometimes things get posted on the Dalesfans website. Sorry of this is an avenue already explored! Or a section C or as someone else suggested a New Forest (sounded nice!)

Booboostoo Sat 08-Dec-12 16:55:25

Have you seen this post on HHO?
www.horseandhound.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=580208

I don't know the poster or the pony so can't vouch for either but it sounds like a good fit for what you want.

booksinbed Sat 08-Dec-12 22:06:17

Hi Boo boo - that pony sounds fab - i cant get on to the forum !!!aaahh.Will try tomorrow.

50BalesOfHay Sun 09-Dec-12 13:54:35

Definitely look for a nice native pony, they're hardy and low maintenance, generally have kind temperaments and are brilliant fun (see my little mare on my profile page, she's the sort of thing you need)

booksinbed Mon 10-Dec-12 11:28:11

Hi Bales - if you have a mo please take a peek at star by name star by nature fell male on preloved ....they are willig to loan to me ist ...

Kormachameleon Mon 10-Dec-12 11:35:51

I'm gonna be honest with you here

If you start mentioning drag hunting and the like then you are at risk of over horsing yourself again

I find it weird to see novice and hunting in the same sentence

Pls just find a steady happy hacker who will pop a jump - you will enjoy this and build your confidence and skill level. Get some proper lessons on him/ her also.

50BalesOfHay Mon 10-Dec-12 12:09:15

Hi books, can't find the ad, can you link?

booksinbed Mon 10-Dec-12 12:19:04

Hi bales.cant link sorry....go to pre loved .co.type in pony star by name.go down to the 9 th ad .its a pony at preston .thanks..!!!

booksinbed Mon 10-Dec-12 12:20:37

koram- you are so rite !!! i get carried away with self.you wd think id learn patience by now.ive seen a 13 .2 riding school pony - see above message if you fancy a peek..thanks for honestly im a lkittle bonkers at times.

booksinbed Mon 10-Dec-12 12:21:59

ps im five foot one so ?? good size...

50BalesOfHay Mon 10-Dec-12 12:35:53

OK, seen her. She looks very nice, and you're definitely on the right lines. Two questions though:
1) what does she do if another horse does come right up behind? does she kick? If so, how will you manage that when riding out with others (when stuff can happen despite our best intentions) If she just pulls faces then that's ok, but best to find out and think through
2) why is she being ridden in a wilkie by an adult? Native/cobs can be strong so I'd understand if a child riding, but if she's so bomb proof and doesn't take off she surely shouldn't need a bit which is effectively a gag

I think she's definitely worth a look though, the sellers sound genuine, you can take plenty of time getting to know her before you decide and she sounds like what korma was recommending (and which I'd agree with)

50BalesOfHay Mon 10-Dec-12 12:40:52

Size is fine, I'm 5'11, and mine is 14hh, I don't look or feel too big as she's wide and takes up my leg.

Kormachameleon Mon 10-Dec-12 12:44:39

Hi books, thanks for taking my message the way it was meant

I have seen so many people get carried away over the years and it only ever leads to stress and heartache

Forget grey ponies, with big eyes and cuddles - there is no such thing as the wrong coloured horse
Of course you have your preferences but please don't discard what could be the perfect horse because it is dark bay and not very cuddly

If you keep an open mind and be prepared to be brutally honest with yourself and your abilities then you will find the perfect horse for you

And it may not be bombproof, or grey, or even may hate cuddles but if you have that bond he/ she will look after you and you will have years if enjoyment

I wish you the very best of luck in your search x

50BalesOfHay Mon 10-Dec-12 12:48:38

The thing with greys as well books is that they are prone to melanoma. (am paranoid about equine cancers at the moment) There is no such thing as a good horse that's the wrong colour!

booksinbed Mon 10-Dec-12 13:17:28

thankyou both v much.
BALES - i dont know what a wilkie is never heard of it - but guess similar to gag like you said - i will ask.they live just over half hr awy from us and said i can loan if required for cple weeks.... so that s goodTHANKYOU.HBOTH FOR YOUR HONESTY AND EXPERIENCEX

booksinbed Mon 10-Dec-12 13:39:36

hI bales- just spoke t o owner - she said she can scream a bit if they get right up her rear but does not kick.Also the owner said that the bit she has in is a sanffle.She also said i can loan her for 2 weeks to make sure that she is right for me.....

50BalesOfHay Mon 10-Dec-12 13:42:42

A wilkie is a bit that looks like a snaffle but is a fair bit stronger as it has a gag action. If you look at the picture you'll see the bit has two small 'bubbles' which the reins are attached to. They are often used on children's show ponies. I'd just metion that you noticed the wilkie in the picture and ask how the pony goes in a snaffle, and see it ridden and try it in one. That said, ponies end up in all sorts of tack, sometimes because that's what the owner had in the drawer, or it played up once and then didn't get changed back, but you do want a nice soft responsive mouth.

booksinbed Mon 10-Dec-12 14:30:41

Hi have found another posibility but may be too young /too good..show pony etc.he is with a riding school at mo due to the sellers dd having a non horse accident.please look at pre loved - type in 13.2 black fells pony fells gelding its in denbighshire.any thoughts please.my instinct is the l.ist one i saw but im tring to be open minded.there seems to be two ads re same pony!!

50BalesOfHay Mon 10-Dec-12 15:29:50

The fell is gorgeous, but he's only 6 so may still need to settle down a bit. He's also described as for competent adult/teenager (or similar wording) which says to me he's not a novice ride, and he's in a pelham in the jumping picture so may be a bit feisty. You'd also be paying show pony money when what you need is a happy hacker. I think the other one looks the better bet

Kormachameleon Mon 10-Dec-12 16:06:38

What's your budget ?

booksinbed Mon 10-Dec-12 16:08:34

thanks bales - im so appriciating guidance..!! one more request than i will go away i promise.!! pl look on pre loved.type in one in a million and look at the grey called louie.beatiful - expensive - agin maybe not what i need - attartced by age and tempermant but i dont want a show pony ......dont worry if you dont facny a look see..!!

booksinbed Mon 10-Dec-12 16:11:38

budjet....well its supposed to be 2,000 max.I wd rather pay more for a pony for life.i hope to get one that has a wonderful temperment.ive changed my mind totally on looks .its safe ,then temerment .i wd also like one with good fet as wd like to avoid shoes if at all possible.....

booksinbed Mon 10-Dec-12 16:13:33

the last message was meant for korma..!!

Spons Mon 10-Dec-12 16:19:45

Hi books, where abouts are you? There is a dealer called 'cng equine' bassed on Staffordshire, who seems to have done lovely horses. They are on Facebook and seem to get a lot of positive updates from people that have bought off them. A dealer may be the way to go as they can spend some time to get to know you and match you with a horse. Do you have anyone in rl that can go and see horses with you?

I'd second not worrying about looks, I've always wanted a 16h grey, but have a 15h black cob, and a 15h dk bay! I was also adamant with the second one I didn't want anything under 15.3, but sometimes you just 'know. Do you have an iPhone? I found right horses to be a v good app, and got the last one through there.

Also, you mention you have a pony on loan, is there any chance you could buy that?

Kormachameleon Mon 10-Dec-12 16:59:56

Whereabouts are you ??
I'll find you a horse :-)

Don't touch Cng equine. Don't want to say too much in here but just don't buy a horse from them

Spons Mon 10-Dec-12 17:18:35

Won't hijack (but yet i am) but really korma? I only found them after I'd got newest horse, but always thought they 'appeared' to have some lovely horses? Had googled them out of curiosity before and no horror stories came up?

Kormachameleon Mon 10-Dec-12 17:31:38

Have you googled that name or the name of the people who run it ?

I have spoken to several people who have had their fingers burnt and experienced their tactics first hand with a friend

I would steer very very clear

They are also puppy farmers although they deny it

Spons Mon 10-Dec-12 17:37:54

Ah ok, shall look for names. Yeah seen puppies pop up quite frequently and thought did cross my mind... Thanks for info anyway, books- I take it all back!!!

booksinbed Mon 10-Dec-12 17:39:59

korma- how kind of you- north west- but will travel for right pony no problem..........

Kormachameleon Mon 10-Dec-12 17:42:48

Do you know the names spon ?

Just google c l a i r e or g a i l d a v i e s equine
I also have messages in my Facebook from people who have taken her to small claims and trading standards

Wouldn't touch with the proverbial barge pole

booksinbed Mon 10-Dec-12 17:45:09

spons- yes i know folk in rl - but they helped me find dd pony so feel cant ask them to travel too far on my venture ....i drove a frirndmyself to east coast to look at pony for her and i was so tired by time got there and back as it was a 9 hour drive return was neither use nor ornamant as they say !!!plus it ended up being a dealer of questionable repute !!!!aaahh.I have no app phone thing - bi of a tech dinosaur im afraid ....!! but thankyou - you are all being so lovely.

Kormachameleon Mon 10-Dec-12 17:54:29

this one worth a gander

I love him

him

All of those worth a phone call I think

50BalesOfHay Mon 10-Dec-12 18:38:16

The Exmoors are both lovely korma, and Ben looks beautiful (because he looks a bit like my mare!) definitely put them on the shortlist books! You should get something nice for your budget, as long as you're not looking at showing types.

Books, we're all enjoying horse shopping with you!

booksinbed Mon 10-Dec-12 18:49:24

yay ! gald you are enjoying horse shopping with me.i like ben.i rang re oak staight away the second on kormas list as my heart melted ,boo he sold !!!!but they have another and will e mail - the owner buys and sells tho.

Kormachameleon Mon 10-Dec-12 19:07:34

Ooh this is fun :-)
Glad you liked them

booksinbed Mon 10-Dec-12 19:12:17

loved oak sooooooo much ...ben a bit big i a shortie !!!but he ad been on a list i had so we are thinking alike xx

booksinbed Tue 11-Dec-12 11:24:10

hi all - tried out first pony today .thelwell meets middle aged lady - ex riding school pony took off with me to feed room.here we go...you goot to laff but seriosly- shoulld have read bit were it said needs stong rider....to bring on .....all the ret of blurb was steady hack,etc...and onward. we go.....

Spons Tue 11-Dec-12 13:46:00

We've all been there books, focussing on the 'good' stuff in the advert! You'll start to narrow in on exactly what you want, and there will only be a few adverts that fit the bill. Watch out for ex riding school (and I have one! Although it was 2 owners before me) they can be nappy and tend to want to be part of the herd rather than work alone.

I had some awful trials, including being bucked off and horse bolting off! You'll know when it's right...

Googled 'the person' korma, shock

Booboostoo Tue 11-Dec-12 17:30:08

I don't want to annoy you by repeating myself, but please consider taking your instructor with you on viewings! You will need to compensate her for her time but it will save you loads of money in the long term if you buy the right horse now.

Kormachameleon Tue 11-Dec-12 18:46:40

Just to say also please don't discount an older horse

Everyone wants an 8 year old schoolmaster - they will all be advertised as this yet rarely are
Try and look for something that has maybe been in the same home for a few years, something someone has grown out of or gone to college or uni. An all rounder is ideal, stay away from anything advertised as dressage/ xc/hunter prospect - these will nearly all be too much for a novice

Also ideally get something ridden in a snaffle with no contraptions like martingales etc - again you risk getting something a bit funky if it needs a gag and martingale

Just keep it really basic, you have a good budget and will find something perfect if you keep your cool and take your time

booksinbed Wed 19-Dec-12 14:13:55

Thankyou all for your help.I found him last thursday .A little black cob.

.Im devasteted to say that on the same day as i viewed pony, my darling father died following surgery and post surgery complications which have lasted a few weeks. I cant say much at the moment but wnated to tell you all.The very odd thing was that i gotpony in cheshire and the last recoded owner on passport - which is not the last owner it was a riding school was the village my darling dad lived in which is no were near cheshire but is in yorkshire .When i can i will tell you all what he is like .I just wanted to thank you all for all your help.

50BalesOfHay Wed 19-Dec-12 15:21:11

Sorry to hear about your dad, books. Treasure your little cob and enjoy him. Some things are meant to be. Look forward to hearing all about him (and seeing pics)

50BalesOfHay Wed 19-Dec-12 15:22:01

I meant finding your horse, not your dad, when I said some things are meant to be.

Booboostoo Wed 19-Dec-12 21:38:31

I am really sorry to hear about your father.

I would very much like to hear about the new pony when you feel up to it.

cngequine Thu 27-Dec-12 22:33:36

This is Claire who " owns and runs " cng equine !! These posts have been brought to my attention and I can honestly say I find them very personal and upsetting. Can I ask if those of you who have chose the advise people away from us if any of you have had any direct experience/dealings with us??
I can honestly say that it is forums like this which can do a lot of damage to a business.
You only have one side of the story and it is only fair we are allowed to put our side across.
Firstly we have NEVER been prosecuted by trading standards, we have had one visit and they took one look at our establishment and the way it is run and said straight away there is certainly no case for them to deal with, we had followed every correct procedure and had done absolutely nothing wrong.
There is a piece from 2007 on h&h forum about myself, not cng equine and again this was not proved and turned into a harrasment case against myself and was ceertainly not prosecuted in anyway !!
It is very naive to think that in any " sales job ' you won't get dis satisfied customers but with the hundreds maybe thousands of horses we have sold to have only the odd one or two dis satisfied customers in my book is very successful.
I am a true animal lover and always put the horses need first and would invite anyone of you " behind the scenes " !! Just this weekend we had a client try a horse and offer to buy him for me to turn the offer down as I felt horse and rider weren't a match. This is a regular occurance and I question every potential viewer before they view.
I could go on and on to defend us but as I said I invite all of you to spend time with us on the yard and then you may comment.
As for us being puppy farmers??? Both my mum and I have dogs as pets and yes we do breed of some of them but that hardly warrants being a puppy farm, every dog is kept in our horses as pets and not one is left outside. Any puppies we have are raised in the family home and we will have 1 or 2 litters a year.
Please any questions feel free to ask and I will answer them as honestly as I can.
Claire

higgle Mon 31-Dec-12 20:44:33

Have you thought of a Highland? for sale list I have had two and they are real characters. The first used to mug you for blackberries, as he couldn't get them off the bush himself he'd wait until you had picked a full bowl and then help himself - could also drink apple juice out aof a carton. They are very hardy and good doers, and so sweet natured.

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