Who the fuck dumps there horse in MY field(395 Posts)
So ive gone down to let my horses in tonight, and there is an extra fucking horse in my field. I know its not mine. I know it wasnt there at 7:30 this morning. I know its been put in because the lock is cut off. CUT off. Theve cut my padlock off to put an additional horse IN!! IN!!
It went crazy when I took mine in to the stables, so I had no choice. Hes now in a stable with a haynet.
Ive rang round locally and noone appears willing to claim him. Ive rang the police, and theve advised me to put un an abandonement notice telling whoever owns him they have 14 days to shift him, before he becomes mine, and apparently hes my legal responsibility in the meantime because hes on my land.
WTF do I do now?
Wow and autocorrect has incorrectly spelled their. How rubbish!
, is he in good shape? have seen a lot on the news about people not being able to aford to look after their horses . Can you contact a horse recue charity and see if they can take him if he is not claimed?
Can you sell it, that's mad.
Is it in good condition, been looked after etc?
I guessed it was just registering its surprise that the horse was THERE!
This is a new problem. Does it have any distinguishing features? Does local vet, stables or farrier know of it?
<wistful I'd live just one pony emoticon>
The economy is rotten if ponies have to squat illegally!
<secretly wishes someone would dump their pony at my house>
But seriously i can see why you are stressed, horses cost a lot to keep, he could have health issues (could be the reason why he was dumped?) and could end up costing you a fortune.
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He's lucky you've an extra stable . Do you have a rescue anywhere nearby that may be able to take him off you .
Hes in good nick. He appears sounds, hes not underweight, friendly enough, was catchable, picks his feet up, polite(ish) in the stable. Hes certainly not a skinny underweight mistreated pony.
Hes a bay, TB type, no other markings. Someone has obviously deliberately put him in there which makes no sense really.
Theres only 2 vets that do horses around here, ones mine and he doesnt know him, ill ring the other tomorrow, again ive rang the local livery yards and noone has a horse missing and Id hope someone would notice he was gone.
Apparently legally ive got to put this notice up in case he owner comes by, and then at the end hes legally my property, but then I cant sell him unless I passport him ... woohoooo expense. Hes not freezemarked. He might be chipped I suppose, so ill have to ask the vet to check.
And in the meantime, he is my responsibility to feed, water and keep heathly else id be neglecting him.
I know of one rescue locally (and by locally I mean 50 mile away) and they have no space. I do horse transport for them occasionally and I know they are full, and even their foster homes are struggling.
marne or D0G I could come and "dump" him at yours in 14 days
Im in Staffordshire if anyone knows of anything nearbyish.
He is lovely, I can see him out my window, he keeps sticking his head over the door and looking around. Hes massive though, hes got to be 16hh! My shettie is disgusted! She keeps giving him evils!
I suppose you could hope he's microchipped and his owner could be traced that way, but I guess that is going to be unlikely.
I think this sort of thing sucks. I suppose you could just push him out through the gate pretend it never happened and leave him to fend for himself, but I'm not hard hearted enough to do that, so why should you be? You have to pay the hunt to do "the deed"
Options as I see it are that he continues to eat you out of house and home and trash your field, or you persuade some horse rescue place that you simply cannot afford to take on someones elses abandoned animal.
Passporting a single one will probably cost you around £100 - depends if you can get your vets to help you with costs seeing as how it was dumped on you... Then you could send it to the local horse sales and possibly watch it go through for meat money. Don't expect to get back the cost of passporting.
How could anyone do that to their horse?
He sounds lovely (shame i live so far away or you could dump him at my house, though i might struggle to fit him in my garden).
Maybe he was pinched from somewhere and then they panicked and dumped him? Hopfully a owner will come forward as it sounds like he has been well looked after, fingers crossed he is chipped.
No no no not meat!
Poor horsey :-(
Im in Gloucester, I will have him if you can transport him to me!
I've heard of this before where if on your land you are legally responsible and absurdly pretty sure it is the case!!
Do you use horse and hound forum or similar - I'd recommend putting a photo and details up on there just in case....
I shall try and get a photo of him up tomorrow, although last time I tried my phone kept giving me an error message when I tried to upload.
He looks just like this
Oh Penny dont tell me that! thats a horrible thought!
Alphabeta Yes apparently the law is pretty clear. Hes on my property thus his basic welfare is my responsibility (and would be the case even if he was a livery and the owner was supposed to be checking him).
I was told I have 2 choices
1) Leave him there and hope they come and take him back - but hes my responsibility in the meantime
2) Abandonment notice for between 14 - 18 days stating that if hes not removed I assume ownership - but hes my responsibility in the meantime, and then my responsibility to do whatever with after the period has expired.
Either way he appears to now be my responsibility!
I'm sure I've seen something about this before on MN. Isn't this horse squatting?
It's completely deliberate, and iirc if the owner keeps coming back within the 14 days and doesn't remove the horse there's absolutely nothing you can do, because it's not abandonment.
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We had this in our and a few local fields over a week or so, it turned out to be travelers. They'd always return after a couple of days then the horses would turn up a few fields over for a few days. The police were aware of it and said what they've told you and that it was not an uncommon way for them to save on feed bills.
NB this is not a traveler bashing comment, just the case where we live.
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Do you know any chevaline butchers?
I'm in Sussex & I would love him
can we have a MN horse
Try moorcroft or darley retraining if he looks tb ish
I was going to say the same 'he doesn't look like a travellers horse', more of a race yard horse, maybe a x-race horse (but if he was he would be chipped or freeze marked?). We have a farm near us who breeds horses for food (lovely horses like the picture above) .
Oh god that's awful. Are you anywhere near Madeley?
May know of someone who would snap him up.
Could he be stolen and they've dumped him with you until they move him on?
Oh my! What a shock for you, good looking horse though.
I hope you find his owner/or a new home for him.
It quite sad that people do this
Ha well if it is some type of fly grazing / field squatter type person theyll have a shock if they turn up to get him tonight as hes not there. Hes in the stable yard, and unless they are willing to set off the alarms, come through the metal gates, face attack dog to get him they are going to have to leave him where he is.
I wonder if maybe they thought mine were out 24/7 as they are native breeds, but one of them is like a million years old so she comes in at night, and the others come in with her
because everyone likes a bucket of food
Im just trying to decide whether to print off the abandonment notice or leave it for a few days and see what happens
On the plus side if they are fly grazing and keeping an eye on him, that should make them move him, but if hes been dumped then ive got to decide what to do with him.
that's so sad, poor horse, am going to imagine a tragic tale of some sort behind these events
obviously annoying and potentially £££ for you (what if he gets ill or injured?) but can you imagine dumping one of your horses like that?
What a crazy situation. Poor you and poor horse
If they did do the squatting thing would the fact that the padlock was deliberately broken have any bearing (no idea of legalities)
I have heard of travellers doing this too
They must have known what they were doing to come with bolt cutters!
I hope his chipped but betting his not.
Someone abandoned chickens overnight at my mum's once - she went out and found double the number! Much easier to accommodate though...
are you tempted to sit on him at all, got any tack that might fit?
this happened in a field near me earlier this year... not travellers and the woman whos field he was in did manage to rehome the horse luckily.
Agree that horse and hound forum can be a great place to find a home when rescues are full to splitting.
Isn't it just awful though that we can be held responsible for an animal left on our property is we choose not to put it out on the road in danger ..... no doubt thats what the people abandoned leaving them do it.
I have two horses and neither of them spring chickens ... sounds "cruel" but in current economic climate I would prob pts the eldest if we became unable to feed and look after her rather than abandon her. Its called taking responsibility when all else fails.
I hope you can find a good home for him ML
It's really sad, poor horse. He may have been someone's much loved pet who just couldn't afford to look after him and, seeing that you take good care of your horses felt in desperation that you might care for him .
Dead inconvenient for you of course. I do hope that you find a good outcome for him; please don't let him become pet food!
See I know of stories of travellers using fields and then moving on, but I would have thought that if it was travellers there would be more than one
I suppose either they do it regularly and carry bolt cutters with them or they have cased me out and brought bolt cutters, but the latter just seems a bit much to give me a horse, rather than steal my
Re deliberate padlock cutting, no because nothing has been stolen and I cannot prove that the person that .. urm ... delivered the extra horse broke the padlock.
Alameda I cannot imagine dumping one of mine. I know times are tight. They are for me too, and the only reason I have still got my ponies is because they are kept on my own land. If I had to livery them I would not be able to afford them. I have however a fund to pay for their destruction in the horrible event that I am ever in a position where I cannot keep them, nor find somewhere suitable for them to go. The very least I owe them is to make sure that if I cannot look after them, and I cannot find someone else to have them, that they "go" in the best way possible. However touch wood everything will be OK! One of them is 30+ so to be honest this is going to be the last home she ever has .. she certainly wont be dumped in someone elses field to sort out!
Just back from the donkey sanctuary today, they are inundated at the moment because people just can't afford them anymore
wow, I had no idea there was such a thing as horse squatting, that's bizarre. So you can own a horse, dump it in someone else's field, and that person has to feed and water and look after them and you can keep turning up when they are out so the horse doesn't become their property to dispose of as they wish (re-home, keep for themselves or worse)? That's mad. I can see that the law has to put animal welfare first but still.
willie I had a dog dumped here. We kept her, which to be fair I knew I would the first night she was here! She was also lovely, a horse is just so much more though.
alameda Unfortunately no. our existing ponies are shetlands, and 13h cross of some sort of weirdness. Hes definately 16hh. The biggest saddle ive got used to belong to our old 15.2 mare so its closeish ... ive got a bridle though
haha I dare you!
wonder how old he is?
oh poor thing, he must miss his own herd and humans wish you were in east Anglia
We had this happen a couple of years back - went to get the cos in for milking and there was this most gorgeous mare in the field with them
thought Christmas had come early. Brought her in as she was going nuts when we took the cows out.
Turned out that she had been stolen from 2 counties away - owners had plastered her photo over the net, local area and basically made her that hot to handle that they got rid rather than be done for theft.
I contacted the police, Blue Cross, RSPCA, Horse Watch, local hunt, local pony club, Redwings etc in case she had been reported and she had - cue one very happy and relieved owner.
Might be an idea to give the above a shout in case yours has been liberated from elsewhere.
Ooooh how old do you think he is ?
My sister once came home to find she had an extra rabbit but this is a bit different!
Actually I've read on some american forums that this sort of thing has been happening a lot, only people park up their trailer/box while they go off for a lovely trail ride, and when they come back there is a strange horse in it and no one else in sight.
Do you think it's worth contacting the local papers? Someone might have noticed that their
recently bankrupt neighbour's big brown horse is no longer there.
I'd get him checked for a chip asap. If he is stolen and has a chip it might be why he was dumped.
Ill try ringing round some horse organisations then tomorrow in case hes been stolen from far away. Hes definately not from within the immediate area, so ill give some horse feed places a bell and ask them to put a note up and see what happens.
Its barrelling it down with rain here now, ive just been out to check on
him the nags, and hes flat out literally lying down in the shavings! He gave me a little whinney, got up, headbutted me and then ignored me! Mine just ignored me. I know who is getting the treats tomorrow and it aint mine!
As to age, im shit at age horses, but id guess hes got to be somewhere between 5 and 10 maybe. I cant see him being loads older that that.
There are loads of post on horse and hound about lost and stolen ponies, maybe leave a post there too.
aw, he sounds lovely
don't know what's worse - imagining his bereft owner if he's been stolen or imagining him being abandoned
maybe I should watch black beauty and revel in the sentimentality for a while
please keep us posted!
See i just figured hed been dumped to be honest, which is why I was pissed off about it. I hate the thought that hes actually someones much beloved horse and has been dumped because he cant be sold on.
Ill give my vet a ring tomorrow and for him to be checked for a microchip because fingers crossed that might resolve the problem!
I shall let you all know!
Awww poor thing (him, but you as well)
We had this problem with local travellers.They'd let their horses into someone's field,then,when contacted be 'unable to come over and move them for a few days'.They were coloured cobs though,not TB's.
I agree with the posters who think he's been pinched and become too hot to handle,so dumped.Poor boy,hope he is reunited with his owner soon.
Unbelieveable, poor chap, must be really confused and it sounds like he is tired, wonder if he has travelled a long way? Lucky he got your field, although not so lucky for you.
We have had cats, rabbits and ferrets dumped on us, but no horses - yet! Oh the next farm saw two Cockerels chucked out of a landy recently, they kept one and the Postman had the other. People think it is quiet in the country!
Do let us know what happens.
Poor pony. I'm in Glos. I wish you were closer as I'd gladly come to help (be head butted by said horse.)
This must be stressful but lucky for him he landed with you.
Dead jealous. Think I may have to put a sign up requesting horses be dumped at mine!
Just thinking - If they did turn up when you were there, aren't you entitled to ask them to pay for the cost of keeping him in the meantime?
It's probably a long shot in getting money out of anyone and they are most likely to just take him out the field again, but I know with dogs when you keep the dog for the alloted time, if an owner turns up, you can ask for payment of any costs incurred - having said that its something like 30 days for a dog and there has been case law when a dog has been kept by finder and owners have still won them back after several months.
Before you get the vet out to check of he is chipped, do you know any livestock owners/farmers? They may well have a microchip reader and would be willing to lend it to you for an hour or so, or come swipe him if passing. The vet is going to cost! if you know the vet and they are local, you might be able to sneak a borrow from them!
My friend had a vet out to passport her pony, he charged her £12 just for swiping the chip reader over its neck! It took 10 seconds!
Also, make sure if the owner comes back for him, they don't leave with yours as well!
Marking to se what happens next!
Making place as I'm dying to find out what happens next. Poor old ' oss
at magic appearing horse...
Well, to be fair, it took him getting in his car, getting over there, having the equipment in the first place, scanning, getting back in his car and getting back to his workplace. So in terms of his time, it was a lot more than 10 seconds and in terms of expense - time, fuel, equipment. So I suppose £12 is not as bad as it seems if you think well, that was only 10 seconds. iyswim.
My uncle once woke to find 3 extra hens in his coup. Not quite as costly as an extra horse!
£12 is very cheap for a vet call out.
try horse and hound lost and stolen forum - suspect this chap belongs to someone, has been nicked possibly and then dumped.
also try stolen horse register
Blue cross near burton worth a call?!
Your the second person this week who's had horses dumped in a field!! Local to you too!
<gazes out of window and wishes someone would dump a horse in her back garden>
Would be - for me - a good way of getting a horse. DH couldn't bear to say no.
Hope this guy has a happy ending.
must think of a better name for him is still here. I left him in the stable whilst I took the kids out on their ponies, and ive just turned them all out. He was an absolute star. Walked nicely down to the field, stood nicely at the gate and then legged it the second I unclipped the headcollar! He wasnt bothered by the noise of the kids screaming, the dogs, or the tractor we encountered. Hes obviously been well socialised at some point.
Ive rang the vet and it would be £54 to come out and scan him today, but he is passing on Tuesday on the way to the hunt yard so says if I wait until them he wont charge me. So may have to wait until Tues for microschip news!
Ive rang the local feed merchants and asked them to put a note up on their board to see if hes missing, and done the same with a couple of saddlers locally. Ive also messaged the local farriers and asked them to ask as they go around. Im going to join H & H and get him on the lost / found forum.
Im not going to put the abandonment notice up until after Ive seen if hes got a chip, and then ill take it from there.
Now the only decision is do I try and tack him up
Marking place to see what happens to this horse. Dh has said I can't offer to adopt him
SDTG Is it adopting if you happen to tell me where you are and he happens to magically appear there one day
in a fortnight ?
MagicLlama - as I remember you from your various other threads, have you checked with your Dad/Mum/brother that they haven't just told someone they could leave the horse with you and you'd look after it while they were on holiday or something? It sounds like the sort of fucked up thing they would do...
I won't tell my DH the plan if you like but I know a field he'd be welcome in!
That would surprise dh when he let the dogs out in the morning, Magic!
I think I've just seen your post on H & H good idea have you tried facebook too I think there is stolen horses facebook page
Tack him up
Can we have a naming thread for him
<goes away to think>
Shame he's not a girl, could have had Perdita as it means 'lost one'.
(did Winter's Tale for A level ).
Maybe there's a name for 'found one' which might be more appropriate though .
If he was a racehorse he could be 'the intruder'
How about Cuckoo? He's brown and he was dumped in the
Hospes is the Latin word for stranger?
Lol, makes me think of that film 'Cactus Jack'. "My name's Handsome Stranger, I was named after my father"
Have you posted in H&H forum? My initial thought was that it could be the result of a domestic arguement or falling out - vindictive partner removes horse to cause the most pain to their partner............ although most likely a cash strapped desperado who can't afford to keep their horse any more. My DP lives in the New Forest and it's not uncommon for horses to be dumped there as well. He sounds really nice, I'm sure he must be microchipped. Looking forward to the updates.
ERM... No. The vet charged £48 call out, £28 or so to vaccinate, £25 to INCORRECTLY fill out a new passport and then £12 for 10 seconds of scanning!
How about Nemo? It's no name/nobody in Latin.
I have arranged with the vet to call Tuesday lunchtime to scan him for a chip.
As dontmind made a spectacularly valid point about my bro. I have checked with him to see if he arranged for me to "look after" a horse. He says not, and was mightly offended that I "could think he could be so selfish after everything he has done for me"
I could rant about that but its not relevant to this thread
Again hes been a star. Brought them all in at half 6, and have groomed him all over. He was pretty good. Wasnt keen on his rear hock being done, as kept moving away. Hes sound on his leg though and I cant see any cuts / scratches or injuries on it, so was a bit odd especially as hes quite happy to pick the foot up to have his feet picked.
I have had a bridle and slightly too small saddle on him which he had on no problems. I didnt get on him because the saddle doesnt fit properly, but hes obviously been broken.
Ive had a couple of PMs following my posting on H & H but neither of them are him unfortunately, which must be heartbreaking for the people who are looking for their horses!
Glad he seems OK. You are doing a good thing (although it'd be nice if someone had asked you if you wanted to do a good thing in the first place...).
I like Nemo, not only for the meaning but the association with Finding Nemo - unlikely that his Dad will turn up, though, I guess!
Watching with interest.
Hoping he's not been dumped as he has an injury in that leg. Waiting for Tuesday to hear what vet says.
[craving pony cuddles emoticon]
Blimey . How bizarre . For someone to actually cut the padlock off , shows some forethought about it. It's not like most people drive round with a set of bolt croppers in the car.
Am racking brains trying to think of name for him !
Thanks for the update, you are good to do this for him.
I like the name Nemo too.
All names suggesting gift.
Marking place as I hope he is ok and gets a happy ending.
Aw poor lost boy am marking place as I can't not know what happens to this lovely fellow now!
We had a couple of weenie youngsters dumped in an adjacent field in the summer. They escaped from the field and got on to the road and the police got involved but because we were provding them with water and they had grass they were deemed to be cared for. We placed an abandonment notice and miraculously the day before it expired they disappeared. Sod's law we had just found a home for them.
Tragic to think this boy might be stolen.
Hoping for a happy outcome.
I think he should be called Remi the main character in Hector Malot's book Nobody's Boy in which an orphan is raised by a loving adoptive mother and later gets sold to an entertainer who travels across the French country side.
Loved that book as a child .
Poor horse is Nobody's Boy at the moment isn't he. How very sad,and what a generous heart he must have to trust you like that,he sounds a great lad
And how much confidence you must inspire.
You are doing a good thing looking after him so well. I hope this has a happy outcome.
I am not a horse owner, nor a horse rider (currently) but following this thread. Am I alone in this?! You are doing a lovely thing in looking after this horse MagicLlama. Really hoping for a happy ending for everyone. (sets Watch This Thread)...
I agree Leo! I used to ride many many moons ago. I am now too scared to but my everlasting love of horses and a keen horse-riding dd ensures I still get my fix of horse cuddles
I regularly read all the threads in the Tack Room just for the lovely memories they evoke. Would not dream of commenting though, my knowledge is minimal nowadays... (in fact dd knows more than I do and is, age nine, a far more competent rider than I ever was even in adulthood)
Magic, you are doing a wonderful thing for this lovely horse. I hope there is a happy outcome to this... (in a perfect world you would keep him )
Blimey . How bizarre . For someone to actually cut the padlock off , shows some forethought about it. It's not like most people drive round with a set of bolt croppers in the car.
I'd be more concerned that they had a horse to hand!
Oh I would love him - but he'd have to live in the garage with the guinea pigs
I hope it gets sorted soon x
Bumping for the scan tomorrow!
Do you want to send me a picture of him? I'm only in Cheshire and can put his picture up on my yard's page and see if anyone knows him.
He sounds a love (must not ask for him), we have had dogs and cats dumped and two lost horses, but they had escaped and gone on a jolly and we're reunited within 24 hours. Luckily the vet was on the yard and scanned them pro-bono.
Hope he's a lost boy and not a dumpee with no home.
If whoever dumped him turns up you should present them with a livery bill and don't let them take him till it's been paid....
Marking place! The Mystery Of The Appearing Horse. Called Colin. You must name him Colin.
Just read this thread, any news OP?
Another amazing thread in the bizarre world of MN - horse squatting and party squatting - who knew such things could happen?
Where has the party squatting thread gone? Was looking for it but can't seem to locate it.
How did the scanning on LostBoy go?
Am trying to persuade dh to clear out the garage, he can come here
Stop looking, found it!!
Vets been down this afternoon. He has a chip! Hurray! Vet cant tell me details of the chip due to data protection, but hes going to sort it and get in touch with the registered owners and let them know hes here with me and ive said im happy for my phone number to be given out, so am expecting a call shortly regarding missing horsey!
Oh glad he has a chip! That helps things!
Hey, I've been following this thread but haven't posted yet.
Glad the horse has a chip. You've been great to him.
I bet they will be very pleased to hear their horse is safe and well looked after
I am glad he has a chip but im also feeling a bit disappointed which is silly really.
Unless it turns out they really did dump him and don't want him back...
but you won't be when he is reunited with his owner, it will be a lovely happy ending!
Let's hope they want him back.
No when hes back where he should be im sure ill feel wonderfu.. The vet said he was in good nick, aged approx 7, and well handled, so hes obviously been well cared for and Im sure hell be glad to get back home.
I assume he must have been stolen, as Id be surprised if someone who found a horse wandering randomly through the countryside would break into a field!
Oh, pleased he is chipped and hopefully he will soon be reunited with his owner.
(unless she was the one who dumped him???)
Oh fantastic ! But can also see why your feeling a bit disappointed . He was very fortunate indeed to get into your field .
Oh Yay! Hopefully the owner will be over the moon.
I'm glad the horse has a chip, but can understand your feelings too, Magic. Dh will be glad - he was terrified that I was going to end up adopting a horse!
What a lovely thing you've done for him.
Oh it's like reading a chapter of "Jump". Will we adopt him and enter him in the national?
Aaw, hope they're delighted to be reunited
If they weren't delighted what would happen next?
Yay! Lucky lucky boy to be "dumped" in your field and well done to you!
Great to hear he has a chip, and that they work. Hope he gets home soon.
Hopefully they track his owners down soon, they must be beside themselves.
Fingers crossed that his chip details are up to date. X
Awww! I can just imagine how pleased his owner is going to be.I'd be devastated if dpony went missing.[although she is such a grump that no one she didn't approve of would be able to get near her.]
Oh, I'm really pleased he has got owners. Even though you were starting to get a bit fond of him, it'll be really nice to see him reunited with his owners (assuming they didn't dump him - no-one could be daft enough to dump a horse with a chip giving their address, could they...). Bet they will be hugely grateful he's been so well looked after.
The details on his chip are not current. The people listed on the chip are a racing yard. He is a failed racehorse and was retired off 15 months ago due to an injury. He was sold on to someone in Cheshire to be restarted and reschooled as a hack. He was then given away to another person of people 3 months ago when they lost their grazing - he was lame at that point due to a kick in the field. They only have a phone number of the people they gave him to and at the moment the phone is not being answered.
He is not reported as stolen or missing, and vet says this is a bad sign.
Im gutted for him, absolutely gutted!
Ah shit. Sorry llama. Do you think the racing yard should take him? I reckon you should ditch him there!
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Oh poor LostBoy. I would have him in a shot
but my DH would D.I.V.O.R.C.E me
The person that was given him is not a local number, so i dont understand how hes got here. It makes no sense. I can only assume he has been sold / passed on yet again to have ended up local. And why my field? You have to pass other fields on the way to mine, and they dont have locks on them as they are either farmers crops or have the
evil sheep in them.
And to make it worse even though hes been shipped around and all over the place, yet hes so trusting. Its just shit. He neighed at me today when I went to get him with the vet and came charging over. Hes so lovely and hes been dumped. What sort of jackass just dumps their horse!
Do they not have to update chips when they pass on old race horses? And are you just allowed to give away horses when you no longer want them?
No wonder there are so many being dumped
If he has been lame all this time his new "owners" obviously either don't want to or can't afford to pay vet bills.
I suppose your field because there were horses in it and they know that as a horse lover you will look after him .
oh poor poor boy, how can that happen?
he could come and live with us for free if he was a sturdier sort and didn't need a stable
Well his registration should have been changed, so i dont know whats happened there.
Obviously ive not been given details of any of the people, as data protection means I cant be told who / what is on the chip, but the vet rang me back to basically say that its unlikely ill be getting a call, as horse has had more recent owners than the chip who havent reported him stolen. So either they are away and whoever is looking after their horse has not told them hes missing, or they know its missing and dont care. He reckons more likely to be the latter, especially as hes been with me for a few days.
What do you think you'll do magic if he is not claimed? Could you keep him as a MN horse and ask us to all muck in! He he!
Have you named him yet??
it's so hard to imagine, how do you not report your horse stolen or missing?
Unless latest owners didn't know he was chipped?
sorry you haven't had the happy outcome hoped for, can you keep him?
Arrghh i dont know. Im more of a native type of horse and always have been, quite what id do with a gigantic ex racer I dont know.
I mean I have the space for him certainly, and itd mean the others wouldnt need to come in just to keep the old mare company, but hes going to need completely restarting & reschooling. I dont have a school, I dont even know if I have the time. And hes a very big expensive companion pony
But hes gorgeous. And hes got a sob story.
Looks like you have yourself a new horse! That's the trouble with giving away animals. They are technically worthless to the people you give them to. It makes them disposable! Maybe the person who dumped him was looking for someone who looked like they might be soft hearted when they drove past the other fields. You have small ponies, therefore you have children and would probably be open to looking after abandoned things!
I'd be hoping that nobody comes after him. Get that notice up, keep him out of sight then find him a new home.
Could you loan him out from your yard? You get to keep hold of him but know what's happening to him.
Oh MagicLlama, what a sad state of affairs for poor LostBoy. he sounds absolutely lovely, I think he is a keeper
Poor poor boy
I think I'd have to keep him
Blimey it is like Jump.
Can we have a MN syndicate? Can he go for training at Rupert Campbell-Blacks?
Can we get everyone on MN to donate a pound a month to go towards his care? he can become the MN horse
Ohhh poor LostBoy - I genuinely do not understand how someone could do this. Even if you can't cope with an animal any more, for whatever reason, you have a responsibility to find them a decent home.
You are a star for looking after him, MagicLlama.
Would be very happy to donate to his upkeep though.
I am with Taggie. He can be the MN horse. Taggie can flutter her silver eyes and Rupes to get him to agree.
How sad. He sounds lovely.
And I only just finished reading Jump last month. Am on to Wicked
I sat on a horse once and promptly fell off. Everything I know about horsey stuff I have gleaned from Jilly Cooper.
Oh. Can you call him Cooper? Thats a very good name.
We can be connections
Oh poor boy . You are very lovely to be so kind to him. I'm crying a little bit for poor horse. I'd be happy to have him in my little field but I think it's too little and I don't know how to look after horses. Apart from being kind. I think he ended up in your field by design rather than accident. Someone knows you'll look after him, they may even be very sad about it but just couldn't afford him. Not fair on you but.
I'd be happy to chip in for his keep if there's any way you could keep him. Poor boy.
Poor horse. Thank God he did get dumped with you.
Cooper is a fab name.
Do you want those of us on Twitter to put a call out, just in case someone is looking for him?
Magic - I've been following your thread & half hoping that he wasn't chipped!
I'm not sure how ownership is legally defined, but it would be awful for you to spend lots of money
not to mention fall in love with him only for the previous owners to snatch him back in the dead of night.
Long term, could you look for a competent sharer to bring him on, or contact local mfh to see if they could use him this season, assuming he's sound?
Really wish I lived near you!
Where are you Magic? (kind of hoping you are down the road - i could come and brush him or something uselss)
Oh, that's really sad. Poor horse that no-one wants. Bit of a bugger for you.
If he's a Lost Boy, shouldn't he be called Peter Pan?
Oh poor poor lost boy
I am in Staffs - and while I can't take him I will happily come and feed him treats and give him loves
Poor lost boy he really sounds like he has fallen on his hooves! Such an awful and frightening story
Crappy crap! Sadly horses do eat through money in a huge way. But a solution must be out there and I think the idea of a mumsnet horse is a fab one!
i have to confess that as a police officer i have once broken into a field to put a stray horse....it was wandering in the middle of the road, it was at risk of being hit by cars and it was 4am, i could not find the owner, and i broke into a field to ensure he was safe.
i went back 4 days later and he had gone so i assume his rightful owner had reclaimed him.
i want a horse....why does no one dump a horse on my doorstep? <wails>
i would have horsenapped this one i found but he wouldnt have coped very well with the hack down the motorway to get home.....
So sorry that this is rumbling on. I was hoping for a (tearful) reunion of horse and owner very soon. Guess you are thinking about your options. The loan idea might be worth considering if you do decide to keep him, he could earn his keep (so to speak) until you have some more time to devote to him?
A tricky situation for you. Hope some of the other methods of searching find something out for you.
Have you got a good riding stable near you that might take him? When I was a lot younger I used to ride the most fabulous ex race horse. He hadn't made it in racing but he was still incredibly fast out on hacks and really lovely to ride.
Oh blimey, i am in staffs and would happily send dd over with treats and hay for him, she's 17 and would love a horse but can't afford one. She could help you with mucking out and such too. Genuine offer if you decide to keep him and need a bit of a hand with him.
Poor horsey. Perhaps you could advertise him (on H&H forum for example) as a full loan project - to stay within an ** mile area so you can keep an eye on him? Or maybe try the pony club website classified page which have a loan section. I'm sure there are people out there with sufficient funds to start him as a project. If the lameness is superficial he may well make a super riding horse. Fingers crossed for the poor boy. I'd love to offer him a home and have room but sadly no funds to pay for his keep (my 2 already eat every £10 note I will ever earn!). Hope to hear some positive news.x
Dammit ! What about Wetherby's ? If he's a proper TB he has to be registered with them , so if you have the chip number , they might be able to marry it up with his passport , which should be kept up to date .
I am actually looking for another horse , but I think I'm too far away ! Besides currently being out of the saddle as it were .
Can you set up a fund for his feed and we all donate a little bit? Maybe via a local horse rescue that we could donate to and you then 'foster' him, so it all looks legit (you know this money/internet/stranger thing)
Oh MagicLlama, what a nightmare for you. I suppose its back to putting up an abandonment notice then, and seeing where it goes from there (think we can guess that bit) and having a replacement passport issued then?
Poor sod, and he sounds a nice character too.
I am terrified of horses, but actually want to go and give this one a big hug .
It could be the MN horse - our mascot
Oh shit - I was worried something like this would happen. This is why when I gave up riding due to inury I retired my mare rather than sell her on. At least I know she is loved and cared for.
There are sanctuaries who might take him......
Oh no! Poor,poor horse.I don't know how anyone could do such a thing.We had to rehome a pony that wasn't safe this year.We did find a kind home for her,we were very lucky to do so,and have been to see her a few times there.But if that hadn't been possible,I would have taken her to the kennels myself rather than have her passed around or end up ill treated or in a market,even though it would have broken my heart to do it.I wish people would take responsibility for their animals.
If I could take him,I would.I'm going to need a hack in the next year or so,to keep up with the dds.
Hi read this whole thred, what a poor chap! For what it's worth ex racehorses are very willing learner a and also 9 times out of 10 not bothered or spooked by traffic and notices, I have a 4 yr old ex racehorse I was given. They do make lovely horses. I hope he has a happy ending. He sounds very comfortable at your yard. Your doing a fab job.
Notices is ment to say noices... Stupid iPad
I'd donate to a feed fund! How lovely of you to look after him so well. Are there pics of him up yet?
Poor Nemo, sounds like he's been dumped
He's very lucky to have landed with someone as nice as you.
If we all chipped in to his feed fund, could we call him Pom Bear ?
Pom Bear on odds four to one in the three o clock derby?
Tis a joke but would fit in nicely with all those daft names race horses end up with!
I can't decide which potential name I like best, Pom Bear or Peter Pan! Both great!
Seriously though, I hope you get this sorted soon. I would love to contribute towards the MN horse by my own eats me out of house and home already so I've no money to spare.
Poor old boy, cooper is a great name btw, what happens now? Will you get to keep him as registered owner.
I did raise the subject with DH, especially since we just had a big box come free, but he said no.
Magic, I'm sure he was dumped on you deliberately, knowing you would care for him, well done you for doing so.
My daughter gets this all the time, but with dogs. She lives in Portugal,training Lusitano horses for dressage. Took her 2 dogs with her from here 4 years ago.
"Strays" arrived and she adopted them letting them live at the farm with the horses.
Then they put a fence round the farm and still kept finding new arrivals.
Finally realised that people were putting dogs over the fence knowing that softy English girl would look after them.
She rehomes some, there and here, but seems to have a rolling stock of 8 or 9!
Its a shame we cant get him to Essex. He'd be welcome to a home on our yard with all the other freebies and rejects! We have several that came to us free because they just didnt fit the bill any more. They all live lovely lives in a big herd, and get used to match their abilities!
Just because a pony is 22 and isnt fit for pony club, doesnt mean that its useless!
I'll confess I read the whole thread desperately wanting to see 'he has a star like Harry Potter's scar', because that would make him BigHorse, and I miss BigHorse so very much.
I'd be happy to sponsor him a fiver a month, if enough of us did he could stay with you?
Still think Nemo by the way!
I like Nemo for his name too, but OP will know what suits him best.
Or Keifer for "The Lost Boys?"
Sarah, what happened to BigHorse? <<afraid to ask>>
Couldn't afford to keep him so I sold him
I thought he was stolen! <<phew>> You will have to come down and cuddle mine! Come late spring, we will have babies!
You lot and Jilly Cooper!
If Jilly had anything at all to do with this he would become the Mumsnet horse and a mumsnetter on a visit to deliver a sack of treats would discover by accident that he has a magnificent turn of speed if only he is given a polo. He would then be put in to training with a convenient neighbouring
drop dead gorgeous racehorse trainer, have many trials and tribulations which would all be cured by LOVE and eventually go on to win The Grand National.
I do quite like the name Cooper though .
He sounds wonderful. You have been brilliant, looking after him and searching for his home. I do hope you feel able to keep him, or another Mnetter has the facilities/finances.
I would happily donate to a fund for him.
Mumsnet never ceases to amaze me .
Ooh baby horses, you won't be able to get rid of me
Seriously, you won't, as soon as DD2 has finished her GCSEs, we're moving back down.
And if he's going to race under the Mumsnet banner, he has to be called Nest of Vipers. Cooper can be his stable name.
Even better, baby ponies!
Magic - if you really can't keep him, maybe we could all send a few quid to get him transported to Saggy - or we could put an MN call out, someone might be willing to do it for free or petrol money.
Poor old boy, he sound lovely. I'd dearly love to have him, but he wouldn't fit in the front room!
What a sad thread , I'm sure there's a potential happy ending there somewhere ... unfortunately we have just filled up our last stable, otherwise we would have had him in a shot , plenty of grazing, but we don't leave ours out in the winter <wonders if we enough room to fit another temporary stable under the barn>
Morning everyone! Sorry i missed loads of messages - DS2 had a bad dream I went to give him a cuddle and ended up falling asleep in his bed! I surface to half 2, but only to crawl into my own bed!
Tireder than I thought obviously
First steps are to get the abandonment notice up, because apparently legally thats what I have to do. Vet has suggested that I give it a longer than the 14 days period, just in case the people are on holiday, as it gives them chance to come back and start looking for their horse! So either 21 or 28 days. It very doubtful though.
I understand that people cant look after their horses anymore, or that they impulse buy them
for free to good home and its turned out wrong. I can even understand that they dont want to give them away because they dont want them to end up somewhere bad! I just think it stinks to just leave them somewhere and hope for the best.
I like the idea of a MN horse.
DS2s loan pony is coming in a fortnight, so If I sort out the far field,
it needs strimming, I could put newpony and stupidpony out 24/7 and have him and the oldie in the stables & smaller paddock at home. I could then reschool him as a hack and then all 3 of us could go riding together.
Ill get some pics of him up at the weekend when my DB
the nice younger one, not the jerk older one is down and he has sorted out whatever error there is between my phone and laptop!
Oh and im in Stoke on Trent, so if any of you are local enough and want to come down and feed him treats, and spoil him feel free to do so!
The not so little monster didnt want to go out this morning, which appears to be due to the heavy downpour of rain! Hes taken some exception to the feel of wet & mud under his feet - the idiot.
However lucky for him, my old mare also isnt going out today as shes got a cut on her leg, and ive bandaged her up and am keeping her in, so ive left them both in for the moment! Evil shettie has gone out though as she hates being in at the best of times!
I am wet through, so have treated myself to a bacon sandwich and a cuppa WITH sugar!
Magic, I love the idea of a MN horse too.
And I think he will have a wonderful life with you, lucky LostBoy.
He will need a proper name though. I like Colin as suggested further downthread...
Atuanya, means surprise, or unexpected.
Ooh ooh yes his "official" name HAS to be Nest of Vipers!!!!! Great idea. Have you decided on a pet name yet OP?
I've been lurking on this thread, absolutely fascinated about what the outcome is for this sweet boy.
I have to pipe up now though and say why on earth should you put the abandonment notice up for longer to do the dumpers a favour?! If they've dumped a horse, damaged your property (and said horse could have damaged your ponies too at suddenly all having been dumped together) and then gone on holiday they don't deserve any notice at all!
If the vet means in case it's been stolen then the chances are they won't know where it is so wont see the notice anyway.
I say write it in small writing, water soluble ink and post it up behind a hedge. Then school him as a lovely hack yourself and enjoy him- you definitely deserve it!
Magiclama whereabouts in stoke. There are loads if horses in fields near to where I live.
I know nothing at all about them but if I can help in any way.
As a horse-lover and ex-rider I've followed whole thread with a combination of interest and shock that someone would do that (even though deep down I know they do). He sounds like my last horse, (although no way it could be him, he'd be about 40 if still alive!) - probably a good job I don't live closer, although I'd love to help out.
I like Nemo and Lost Boy as names - you must let us know what he ends up as if he stays with you
Fingers crossed he's found his happy ending...
You're not that far from me op. Well done you for looking after this horse, hope you do get to keep him xxx
I, too have been lurking on this thread with great interest and am just marking my place for the eventual outcome really.
I think you are doing a marvellous job Llama you sound so lovely and I'm so glad that poor lost boy has found someone like you to help him. Unfortunately I am miles away with no land or stable and I know very little about horses, (used to ride as a child and both my DDs rode as little ones and DD2 would ride still if I had the money ) But am very eager to know what happens to him and could contribute a couple of pounds a month if it means the difference between him having a happy home with you or having to be destroyed.
you're not that far from me either.
Oh he sounds like my perfect horse. I've ridden a lot of ex racers and they are fantastic horses. Full of personality, and generally very retrainable and well mannered in my experience.
I wish I was in Staffs!
I would ask around, because there are always people who would be willing to pay for his passport in exchange for having a free horse. I know I would if I was nearer. They may even pay you £15/£20 a week to keep him in your field if you have enough room for him.
Hoping for a happy ending for him, he sounds wonderful!
If he's an ex- racer once he is legally yours will you be able to find out what his racing name was ? My first horse was an ex- racer , they're lovely although many have lots of issues . Good luck with him !
I want him! hes sound lovely and I have 'proper horse and riding withdrawal after 5 years (5 bLOODY YEARS!!) of being unable to ride anything but a 9hh shitland , who incidently luffs big horses! He thinks he is one
Damn. Miles away. I could post polos though.
On the back of Dreamy's post, and no offence to dreamy at all, but if you need to pass him on, please don tgive him away. That's what got him into this mess in the first place. And I know I've contradicted myself as I offered a free home, but he is a young horse who has a worthy and valuable future ahead of him. As we have found out many times, any horse has a job to do, and none should be disposable. The higher the price you put on this young, potential filled animal, the better his chance of a decent life.
Bonkey, most Shetlands do, and would benefit from being treated a bit more like they actually were and not just as some kind of living lawnmower!
Saggy He bloody well is!
He is treated like a prince!
<wonders quietly if this may contribute the attitude>
He gets all the same treatment as my TBx mare did , apart from the regular riding
mainly because I feel like a arse riding him down the road with my legs jockey style and still hanging 4 inches of the floor .
I'm soft though, he had a bad start and I saved him.
Maybe I need to turn into the hard bitch who never carries carrots!
is he sound now? I hope he is fit enough to be your hack. astonishing story, how lucky you're on the end of it
NO!!!! I didnt mean you!!! just lots of people in general!
who usually know bugger all about horses!
I agree completely, didn't mean my post to sound a defensive one.
Its the main reason why i could never sell him, because people seem to think they are a easy option to get a pony
. Iv'e had him from 16months, hes 8 now, I'm stuck with the
lovely sod for god knows how many more years because I could never be sure he would end up with good people who would treat him right and give him his chance.
Back to the op ,I can't believe anyone would just dump their horse. what Bobbi said! Thank god he didn't end up in another field where god knows what could have happened to him!
...give him his chance ...*because he is a shetty
<brain dead this morning>
Oo op im not far from you!, well done for taking him in, sounds like he will have a fabulous home with you - hope you get to keep him
I'm about an hour away OP, and would happily bring DD1 and DS for treat visits! I used to ride but have got out of practice, and DH thinks horses are 'nasty, pointy, bitey things'
Have lurked and followed from the beginning and I am the least horsey person ever
they scare the Shit out of me
I agree with others about the notice. Put it up today and only for 14 days. Then change details on chip to you on day 14 pronto.
I vote for either pom bear or cooper for the official MN horse!
hi again op
bear in mind what the vet said about people being on hols and notknowing theyve lost him - and i would call the police back and double double double check that they havent had an incident of a loose horse where your field is because i know that i have cut a lock off and put a loose horse in a field of other horses when i had no alternative - (im a police officer) and we get called to loose horses all the time and we often have no idea where they have come from.
i once had to put a little pony into a field of others, i had to get the bolt cutters and cut off the lock, it was a make do situation otherwise little pony would have been squished on a very busy road come 7am.....
so just check back with the police to see if any incident of a loose horse was reported.
i might pm you this so you dont miss it....
I'm also curious as to where in Stoke you are, I'm at Mow Cop. (outs self even totally!)
Well today he is being a cowbag! Hes been all sharp and generally daft. What pick my feet up really why? What stand still to be groomed, no thanks id rather jog on the spot! Idiotic horse!
To be honest, i was thinking about extending the notice, just because im worried that since they arent answering the phone at all maybe they are away, and id hate to reregister him, and
decide to keep him make a decision about whether or not to keep him, and then have to give him back id almost rather give them longer, and then be sure ive done all that can be done!
Im still calling him horse at the moment because i still dont know his name. I should have asked what it was really which was foolish.
Yes ive got an evil shetland, and we will be stuck with her forever. Our other horse (13hh) and this horse are scared witless of her. She only has to stick her ears back and everyone moves! Which is funny, because before smaller shetland went out on loan, she was the bottom of the herd, and no trouble at all and all of a sudden shes turned into the worlds worse bossy mare!
Good on you for looking after him so well
Was he abandoned naked or did he have a rug on out of interest? Just trying to gauge the mindset of the person who left him......
He sounds lovely and obviously used to being kept out of inclement weather , obviously quite pampered somewhere at sometime......
We have an ex racer at the yard who is lovely, kind and a super hack. If you keep him I am sure some of the racehorse rehoming charities will give you advice re schooling etc, thinking of these people
We also have an abandoned pony on our yard but due to her age (late 20's) there will only be one option for her but ATM yard owner looks after her and we liveries spoil her rotten (her owner died & no provision was made for her)
Hope it all works out.
Have you been told his stable name but the race yard?
Vicar, would you not have notified the owner of the field you put the pony in though? A police officer once knocked on our door to say that he had put a cow into our field as he didn't know who it belonged to and had found it on the road where it was likely to cause an accident. I told him that it wasn't, in fact our field, it belonged to the local, "big house", but was able to give him the name and address of the people who leased it at least so I presume he then went and informed them?
Oh gosh, I didn't mean give him away to any random who'll have him Saggy! I didn't word it well, sorry. I'm typing with one finger on my left hand, so tending to type as little as possible!
I meant ask around your knowledgeable horsy friends who you trust, and be honest about him. I agree, far too many horses are passed around. I've been offered loads and I always turn them down, much as I'd love to take them in, they always have far too many expensive problems which is why they're free.
please have a Mumsnet horse and let us sponsor him. You could raffle of the name so that person gets to choose.
<votes for Nemo>
I was just wondering exactly the same as frantic - surely of you're doing a good deed by putting a horse safely in a field you don't then just walk away and leave it without telling anyone? Or even going back to put a note on the gate?
I would re register him asap after the 14 days personally. By doing this, you're claiming ownership, in case someone later comes looking for him. You can also apply for his passport to be replaced and reregistered in your name. This way, you are following proper legal procedures, you become his owner in the eyes of the law, and if he should one day disappear, you can claim him back. The longer you give, the longer the people who dumped him have to come and retrieve him. If he is just being fly grazed, then he will just go on being dumped.
If, at a later date, a real, heartbroken owner turns up, you still have the choice of giving him back, can explain your motives, and can ask to be reimbursed.
Ooh I'm only an hour away, will happily come and pet and groom him! I also have riding withdrawal, and I'm somewhat too heavy for my sister's 11hh Shetland (who is not evil, but his stablemate is!)
Sorry, I'm coming across as very spikey today!
I'm not trying to offend anybody, honest! I'm just posting from my own experience and those of our much loved beasties!
<<shuts up now>>
Just read thread quickly but remembered this from Facebook about a lost/stolen horse.
I think you're very kind to take him in and feed him. He's had a really shit time by the sound of it and I suspect with the costs of winter feed and worming. It's heartbreaking that after all that he still trusts humans at all.
I know 16hh seems big but I used to ride a 17.1HH grey who was so lazy he was no trouble at all and you get used to the size, they dont seem so big after a while.
Maybe the other horse likes a bit of company if the shettie is indeed a furry tyrant.
Have just read the whole thread.
Llama, you are obviously a very kind person to look after that horse. I hope if you are able (and want) to keep him that all works out ok.
There is a girl who is friends with someone on my Facebook who is missing a couple of horses (friend put out a status asking if anyone has seen/heard anything). A Bay and an Appaloosa. It's a long shot - as she is up in Co Durham, but I can PM you her name so you can message her?
frantic - no - we had no details on our database as to who the field belonged to, at 4am my main concern was to get this horse of a busy main road before something came wanging around the corner and squished it.
i told control where id put it - but had no idea where the horse had come from, who it belonged to, or who the field belonged to. i had spent a good couple of hours trying to find out. I had even asked them to contact the RSPCA who couldnt help either.
i went back when i came back to work to check if he was there, and he wasnt so i assumed someone had claimed him.
everything id done was on the incident log so anyone phoning up could trace what id done.
thats why i just wondered if the same had happened here - its a possibility but ive pm;d the OP.
btw - the house next to this field was being rented and they had no idea who was using it/renting it/ owned it. i did knock them out of bed.
there is only so much you can find out at 4am. main thing was the horse was off the road.
Been lurking too! Glad to see he's safe and fed at least. I hope owners do turn up from holiday because at least someone will have cared about him.
Out of date chips seem white common, a friend sold her childhood pony years ago and last year got a phonecall from a rescue who had found him abandoned. She was the last person on the chip though they manage to piece together that he'd been injured and passed around, she goes to visit and sponsors him now.
On the subject of the possible owners being on holiday and not knowing their horse was missing - I don't know any horse owners who would go on holiday and just leave the animal/s to fend for themselves with no supervision - so I think this scenario is pretty unlikely. Whoever was looking after their horses for them would notice and let them know if one went missing!
I had the Police once banging on my door at 1 am a few months ago, having found a loose horse on the main road - I took it in and the rightful owner turned up the next day - having called the Police. In that case the Police said if I hadn't woken up they'd have just plonked it in one of my fields, so it can and does happen.
Agree. If I'd gone away, I would leave my ponies in someone elses care. I would arrange for them to be checked over at least once a day. If they went missing, I would know in hours. Even if I didnt, Everyone of the neighbours has been chatted to in the past, and would know straight away if one was missing.
Magic he's a tb, they are bloody idiots. we've had a few pass down the years and they are fab, but bloody idiots.
I'd get him re-regulated ASAP and then keep him. No one would dump their horse if they were off in holidays, surely not!
A lot of racers end up at point to point yards. Are there any around you? Or even any yards with grazing nearby. The race yard i worked on used to turn horses out to graze over an hours drive away. They had pretty minimal supervision when out "on holiday". Dunno if PTP yards ever do the same. Sometimes trainers don't register the horse in new owners name until it races, which could be a year after it was bought. So even if it looks a bit out of shape and doesn't have updated chip it could still be in racing?
Well the abandonment notice is up. His owners have 14 days to move him before he becomes my legal property!
I've been lurking to follow what happens with this lovely sounding horse (not that I know a thing about horses tho) and think OP that you are being an absolute saint, and the horse is lucky to have been 'found' by you.
And I also would like to suggest 'MagicLlama' as his new name if one is needed....
Did you look at SparkyTGD's link, Magic? I know it's a fair bit from you, but the horse sounded similar.
MaryZ yes i did. Unfortunately he hasnt got the faint white star, nor is he as big nor as old.
Just caught up....
Poor lost boy.... Sounds like he's been passed from pillar to post.
I'm about an hour away and a 'novice rider' in that I absolutely love horses but can't afford one... I buy the Groupon deals and have a go where I can.
I'd be happy to chip in and sponsor him and come along for visits and to muck in. I find horses very therapeutic. .
But I hope if there is somebody out there who is missing this poor boy that they are reunited through your efforts.
Have you thought about contacting the sentinel?
Okay, I have a plan should horsey be yours in 9 days' time.
I would love a pony but I suspect that my garden isn't big enough for cantering and I have a cat and I imagine she may object. As may my neigh-bours (geddit?)
But I would love to own a part share in your horsey, to come for a holiday nearby and visit, to ride him or her and to comb their mane. Can you hear the theme to Black Beauty in the background?
How about you offer shares in horsey and we all club together and buy a week's worth? If it saves them from the glue factory, I'm about to write a cheque.
I would donate, I have bonded with this horse now through the Internet.
Vicar So sorry, I hadn't thought about the nearest house not knowing who the field belonged to. We all live in each other's pockets around here! I swear you can't fart without everyone in a five mile radius knowing! I need to get out in the big wide world more! (Couldn't today though! Practically flooded in, 25 mile round trip to collect DD from bus stop in market town 10 miles away, which is why I am so late apologising and explaining my stupidity! )
What's with all the exclamation marks? I seem to have turned into some kind of cheerleader
please dont apologise! it does seem odd to just leave a horse in a field without telling anyone but if you dont know who owns either its hard to know who to tell!
i told control. if anyone rang up asking about where their mysterious horse had come from i hope control would have told them....--but i know how it works and i have my doubts--
Has taken me all day to read through this thread.
Poor horse being dumped but at least he is being well cared for, well done MagicLlama
If anyone put a random horse into my field the poor thing would be terrorised by my extremely bad tempered
stroppy cow TB mare, the only horse she allows in her field is her field companion who is a pain the arse cheeky shetland, I am fairly certain there would be blood shed, she even has a tantrum if the pheasants or rabbits dare to walk through her field!
If I go and steal BigHorse back will you sponsor him too?
<joke, that's a joke Po'ers>
Oh God I've killed the thread
Poor horse and poor you.
Would he be the type of horse you would pick if you were to look for another horse? If not, I would consider carefully whether to keep him though if he is not claimed. Ex-racers are unlikely to become great hacks (there are some exceptions of course) and thoroughbreds are generally more expensive horses to keep (more often ill/injuries IME compared with other breeds).
I hope somebody claims him, but seems unlikely though.
He is lucky that he was dumped in your field and has you to look after him (at least for the time being).
Another lurker here. I was so hoping for a happy reunion. I'm glad he's got you to look after him. I've ridden lots of ex-race horses and some have been fantastic. Here's hoping that Lost Boy is the same.
I was talking to my DH about this here horsey, it's a longstanding joke that he owes dd a pony (she asked for one from within the womb, see)
He says we can afford an ear. So we'll sponsor the horses ear please.
A MN horse, yes. Like the Blue Peter baby.
There's a Blue Peter baby?
Wasn't Sophie Ellis Bextor the Blue Peter baby?
How can there be a Blue Peter baby?
Just marking my place.
You have done a fab job OP - he is lucky to have "found" you.
Bloomin' heck, this thread is like a roller coaster.....just catching up and I am exhausted. One moment I'm up 'Hurray he has a chip', next moment back down 'Noooooo out of date', then up again 'She's going to keep him?'
Now I think I am flatlining waiting for the outcome of the notice!!!!!
I do hope you keep him, or at least see how he goes with a view to loaning him or having someone ride at yours and contribute. However, I fear that there may be some underlying reason why he was dumped and that perhaps he isn't sound to ride or just bonkers!
I never used to be such a pessimist, but think I have become jaded with age!
If you set up a fund for him, I am happy to contribute. I am a bit too far away to drop a few bales off.
I rememember the Blue Peter baby too, but thought it was a boy!!!!!
KT9 people dump them because they just cant afford to keep them!
I don't mean this to sound flippant, in the respect that he sounds like a lovely horse, and you are so kind to take him in,
BUT.. (dramatic music)
is anyone else wondering if Liz Jones/ Jiz Loans could be behind this? She has recently vacated her dream country pile at v short notice, and had a lot of ponies to sort out... I wouldn't put it past her, the raddled old whinger.
Isnt Jizz based in Dartmoor? Stoke on Trent is a bit of a hike to dump a horse!
True, true...but maybe she's trying to cover her tracks and retain her reputation as "insane, impoverished horse saver".
The Blue Peter Baby
It was decided that Blue Peter should feature a baby on the show, to demonstrate to viewers without a brother or a sister just how babies grew and developed and how they should be looked after. On 30th September 1968, at just fourteen weeks old, Daniel made his debut. Up until June 1970 Daniel made regular appearances. Peter Purves was none too pleased about being given the job of being Daniel's on-screen father-figure.
A bit more about the Blue Peter baby
One of Biddy's bravest ideas was when Sylvia Scott, who looked after Jason the cat, discovered she was expecting her eighth child. The growth and development of baby Daniel Scott became a regular feature from 30 September 1968. It appealed to Biddy because, 'It had never, ever been done before. My thinking was that even if you're three, you can be superior to a baby. But I thought it would be an absolute switch-off for an eight-year-old boy if they saw Valerie Singleton holding a baby, so the idea was that John and Peter would look after Daniel.'
This made great television, with John, in particular, using every opportunity to extract maximum comedy from his new role. Peter Purves, on the other hand, was less happy: 'My heart sank. I didn't like doing it and it didn't interest me.' The programme 'retired' Daniel after his second birthday in the summer of 1970, so that he could grow up unaffected by his juvenile television stardom. He made one brief return to the world of Blue Peter in 1993 during the 35th-anniversary documentary, in which he talked about his troubled youth following his parents' divorce, and admitted to dabbling with drugs and crime.*
Apologies for the hijack, I've been lurking and know nothing about horses, but can google a bit.
Liz Jones - Exmoor. Think her ex-racehorse is a mare
I can't believe I'd never heard about the Blue Peter Baby!
Ok I knew about the Blue Peter baby but can someone please point me in the direction of information about Liz Jones/Jizz Loans? <feeling left out and a bit of an idiot>
How's horsey this morning OP?
Daily Mail is Jizz's spiritual
and sadly, 'journalistic' home. You'll find her columns in the You mag section.
Well, I'm pretty much the same age as the Blue Peter Baby, so it's not surprising I don't remember watching him in action.
I'm gripped by the horse saga - poor chap, but he does seem to have fallen on his hooves being with you, OP.
here you are more Liz Jones than you could ever need.
Had you considered leaving Horsey in the stables for day 12 or 13 of the 14 day notice? From other people's threads, it would seem the horses are often re-claimed at this point.
At the least please could we have a video camera set up
pref with live feed streaming direct to mumsnet
I'm with Gemma. I'd have him somewhere secure, and your own ponies as well. Theres nothing to say that someone unscrupulous wouldnt reclaim him and take yours as well. Make your sign visible, list your contact details, but keep him out of the way.
If they look really horrible, you could pretend he has already been reclaimed
never mind the Blue Peter baby, what about his poor Mother? EIGHT children and the pampered Blue Peter pets to look after...
Thank you pixel, erm... enlightening!
I'd look online. Someone may be appealing for a missing horse? Would be a shame to move him on if they are looking for him x
I know Frantic, unbelievable. I mean, she's only wearing a dress to pose with her horse, personally I wouldn't be seen in anything less than a ballgown and tiara to go with my wellies.
Just been meaning to say don't look a gift horse in the mouth.
As you were.
Saffron, you just couldn't stop yourself...
I think it may be worth you contacting Moorcraft and Retraining of Racehorses - they may have some way of taking him, or helping you with him......
Re the chip thing, a friend got a puppy & had it chipped at the vets they'd been using for their cat. The vet had amputated their cats leg and the pup had different coloured eyes and wasn't a common breed.
The pup went missing and they called all the necessary numbers etc.
To no avail.
Had all their friends on the look out etc.
The pup had been handed in to their own vet, who had no fucking recollection of the dog, and hadn't updated the chip database with their ownership.
Thankfully my friends rang the vet & got their pup.
I'm sure this is a tiny happening, but thought it was mentioning, just in case. Mistakes do happen.
Personally, I like LostBoy, for a name. Has a ring to it, and a story.
OP, you are a wonderful person, I send you my love.
Well update time again.
The abandoment notice is up, but no response from that. Ive had to put my phone number on it, because the stupid horse has an aversion to the rain, and if its even gently spitting when I try and turn him out, hes goes all eyes rolly and head tossy and then when turned out stands by the gate neighing. Due the heavy rain and gale force winds
and my inability to concentrate on work when a stupid horse is neighing almost constantly hes been staying in and ive been leaving the stable door open so he can wander around the stable yard instead of being cooped in!
There has been on response from the last known owners, and I believe that a letter is being sent to the address now as phone calls have got no response.
The yard he came from will have him back but obviously only to sell on again as he was injured so unfit to race, although could make a good hack
or so they say
Im toying with keeping him, but on one hand I keep thinking ill have to buy him rugs and tack which is going to be a relatively heafty expense. Then lord only knows what hes going to be like to ride. Noone appears to have untrained him to be a racehorse, so am I going to be galloping around the countryside like a mad thing?
which could be fun if I didnt have to take the kids out riding with me but then on the other hand, I have the time to spend with him, it would be lovely to have a horse I could ride myself, and ive fallen in love with him.
Heart or head, heart or head?
Ah stop it - you know you are going to keep him. How big is he? I have loads of old manky rugs that might do for him with a bit of a spruce up.
I wouldn't just take him on because you feel sorry for him, however lovely he is. TB's are not always easy as you know, and on top of that there will be loads more expense (notorious for bad feet), before you start he'll need vaccinations, worming, teeth and possibly a back inspection. And, as you say tack and kit....... It will also require a lot of time, probably more than you think as you are likely to be starting from scratch. Have a word with Moorcroft, Greatwood and RoR before you commit yourself. Can you find out some of his history, including his injury before you fall completely in love with him.
It's easy to say heart, but you are possibly looking at 10+ years of it - and that's a lot of upkeep, never mind anything else!
Can you become a fosterer if you were to give him up to a charity
I have no idea about horses but his thread has me gripped and I want you to be able to keep him
ah! have just read all of this thread. how lovely, i would love a field and horses.
I hope that he gets a good home, either yours or someone else.
bless him! and you for having him!
i am sure that everyone horsey will give what they can to help keeping him become a little bit cheaper!
Lol, you lot are useless! Im trying to be logical and practical about it but i keep thinking hed make a lovely winter project.
Bear Hes 16h! My mates got a 16h TB so ive stolen her lightweight turnout rug for now, but if hes going to go out in the proper bad weather hes going to have to had something more substantial I suppose, as hes not very hardy.
Frosty that is my only reservation to be honest. Do I really have the time and energy to do him justice. In my younger, pre kids days I had a 15.2 derranged saddlebred mare that tried to kill me everytime I went in the field, and I managed to get her sorted eventually, and I keep telling myself hes not that bad, but equally I now also have 2 primary school aged kids, and their ponies, which I didnt have before!. However again I work from home, so with some juggling of my workload I would have the time to put in with him.
Ive spoken to a racehorse rehabilitation place and theyve advised how to go about retraining him, and it sounds feasible, but then it always does when you want something to happen IYSWIM? Theyve advised lunging him for a while and working on his transitions before even getting on him so theres alot of work there, and before I can take him out with the kids ponies following us, I need to be relatively sure that either he wont bolt off, or if he does I have workable breaks
Injury wise, he had a sand crack fracture. My vet says that he appears sound now, theres no noticable problems with it, and the yard have said we can contact their vet for more information on it. They have said that they were told that he would be suitable to be brought back into work, but obviously not as a racehorse, eventer, or anything of that nature. As id only be wanting a hack about he should be OK, but equally I need more information before I know that for sure. Or i decide ill keep him as a very expensive, very pathetic in the rain companion for the old mare weve got.
TB's generally do not make good field ornaments - they are used to being busy, especially if they have raced. My ex pt to pt goes nuts if he's left unamused - he tears around the field for no apparent reason and is lethal to ride if just pulled out every now and then. Kept busy he's a dream and a sweetie.....
I don't know what your best course of action is really, like you I'd be tempted. Why don't you write a list of pros and cons, be hard hearted and do a sensible assessment of cost and time etc and see where it leaves you.
They can be kept out - mine spent a happy winter last year in the field 24/7, clipped out, with access to a field shelter. Food wise he was on a basic non heating mix and hay, with sugar beet to bulk him up and get him to eat as he's a tad fussy.
I really admire you. Go with your heart.
Awww! You know you're going to end up keeping him.....it was meant to be!
I would go with your head.
TBs are generally more expensive and far more high maintenance. He may become a lovely hack but then again he may not. He will take up lots of time and I would expect ultimately cost you a lot of money. It would probably be far cheaper to buy a nice horse to suit your needs as so many people cannot afford horses anymore rather than keeping him. He may seem 'free' but in practice he will probably cost you a lot in vets, farrier, saddle etc, feed, generally being higher maintenance than your average horse.
but what will you do with him if no owner is found and you decide to get rid? <worries>
i am so desperate for my own but he would be more than i could handle yet. Has the vet identified any real problems? if not he could be a worthy little project (or big project at 16hh!)
If you can afford to then go with your heart.
<<Wishes she lived closer to Stoke on Trent!>> We'd take him if you weren't on the other side of the country!
Well, here's how I'd approach the situation, if I was going to keep him:
Don't rug him overly, TB's can grow decent winter coats. If you need rugs, check out equine boot sales, gumtree and ebay. A couple of half decent turnouts will do. You don't need seperate stable rugs.
Don't over feed him. Hard feed will make him nuttier. Give hay, chaff and a little non heating mix. We use Biocare from Falcon. Excellent feed. Get his feet trimmed, but don't go down the shoe route unless you need to. Plenty of TBs go barefoot. Ours are only Tetanus jabbed. If he isn't skinny or losing ground, he probably doesn't need a dentist, thre's a good chance you can tell if he needs his back checked. You don't have to spend a fortune without good reason. Keep it simple and see how you go.
There is plenty of second hand tack out there. Ebay is your friend!
Anyone got any secondhand rugs?
there are some decent cheap rugs on ebay at min....
just looked at tack too - if you know what size you need ebay looks pretty good....
dont look a (gift)horse in the mouth OP! (grin) i realise TB are more high maintenance but im sure you could get the basics and make it work if you really want to?
My dd owned a 16h tb ex racehorse for a few years and he was the gentlest and best horse we ever had. Loved his nose being rubbed and neighed hello and would gallop across field to greet her. Suffered a few injuries but healed well. We loved him.
I don't own a pony to buy for. Not so secret Santa?!
Hmmmm, it could work out, but as his main job would be going out hacking with small children on ponies you need him pretty bombproof and sensible in a crisis. I'm guessing that for that criteria you probably wouldn't immediately think of an ex-racer but he could work out, you never know!
Have you got adults you could ride out with while you see what he's like? I think if you do keep him you'd need to have a plan B if you can't get him totally trustworthy to go out with your children.
Could any of the horse welfare charities sponser you to feed him over winter?
What about contacting mounted police, I know they have used TBs in the past.
I too would have concerns about taking an ex racehorse out on gentle hacks with a couple of little children. Have you got someone nearby with a calm horse you could hack out with?
Do you have any stud farms near you? Would the previous yard have his sire/dam details?
He does sound as though he needs to 'man-up' somewhat too! How is he going through mud?
<I so wish I lived close to you>
Anyone down south who needs help with their horse?
Oh Magic, you sound lovely
He sounds great, but do your pros and cons list first
before he gets his hoofs under the rug
er - the mounted police - i hate to break this to you but they are being disbanded at an alarming rate - its not good news for the horses. they will likely be shot.
I was talking to two of our mounted lot the other day - i asked what would happen to the horses, to be met with sympathetic looks....and then one of them mimed a gun to the head.
cutbacks. all to do with cutbacks. some forces are losing their dog sections too.
I was loving this thread until I got to your post, Vicar. That's awful.
I work in Westminster and the mounted section often wonder up and down the road my office is in. I luffs hearing/ seeing them clipclop past.
I'll have a Police horse, Vicar, and you could have one as well
i bet actually that they are great to have - they are well trained, they are used to travel, they are used to people and traffic....i wonder how realistic it would be?... they are disbanding the mounted section and its being unified with another neighbouring force which means there will undoubtedly be horses going...
I'll have one too! Will they let us have them to save them being shot?
How can they do that Vicar? That's awful. Surely police horses would be easy to rehome, being presumably bombproof and well looked after? I'll have one, without a second thought!
i actually have no idea but i bet its a lot harder to get one in reality. I dont very often bump into our mounted section - but i would be curious to know what they would propose, i know that retired horses are difficult to get hold of and i believe they are trained in a specific way, im not sure how suitable to reschooling they would be.....but no idea now in this climate where many mounted sections are under threat. would be interested to find out.
Rebekah brooks will take em all!
Lothian & borders stable their horses at the end of my road. They regularly poo outside my house!
Where I'm from (Grampian) got rid of their horses years ago. It's not just a new thing to disband mounted bobbies.
Another one here who would take an ex police horse. Excellent for hacking!
I was trying to remember her name Glaikit - I was about to come on and say "that bint with the mass of red curly hair"
Wasn't part of the "proof" of her
overly close relationship with the Met that she was providing (free of charge) livery to former police horses - or were they current ones? I remember thinking that whatever else she may or may not have been guilty of (and I'm not a fan of Murdoch papers), the feeding frenzy meeja was not being fair on that one.
They were retired horses prettybird. Not that I have anything to do with rupes or anything! Nope not me, I just followed the story out of nosiness . They press made it out to be she had been given a horse worth millions of pounds, when I reality they retire them out to fosterers and pay them to look after them (I think I read that somewhere, I might be lying).
Anyway, if they retire and police Shetland ponies, I'll have one. I would save me having to carry ds everywhere!
Well, thats four of us who would take one! I cant imagine the Met putting perfectly healthy horses down, there would be UPROAR!
i think its kept pretty hush hush for those reasons saggy. im not in the met - im oop north.
i might just see if i can find out what happens to them when the move takes place. i would have one but not sure they are a novice ride (and im a novice)
have primed dh....!
sorry OP for the horsey hijack.
Please do try and find out!
Yes, if you find out anything, please let us know Vicar.
Vicar - That's awful, so much time is spent on those horses.
A friend had an ex-police horse who was very well mannered and bomb proof.
but shit scared of sheep!
I'd have one, definitely . Am looking for another at the moment anyway . Essex are disbanding certainly , as are Avon and Somerset I believe .
ill see if i can find out who to ask when i get back to work - it was a kind of pipe dream of mine to do that job one day but im told that they like people who dont ride at all, to train from scratch and its a dying role now unfortunately - so its highly unlikely - had i ever managed to get in to the mounted section i would have taken my horse - over my dead body would mine be pts....but im not sure if the other bobbies feel that way or not....alot of them drift in and out of that dept from other places and then drift out again.
ill see what i can find out anyway.
Sounds like travelers. Have you informed the police?
Please keep us updated....
ignore my last comment, i'd on read the first page, brain is frazzled this morning and I failed to see this ran for 14 pages!
Just want to say that I think you are amazing and the horse is very lucky to have 'found' you.
Nottinghamshire disbanded their mounted police and had a huge amount of people wanting to rehome the horses.They didn't shoot them.[I'd have one too].
On the subject of ex racehorses - I re train them for a living and must add my tuppence worth - having had dozens and dozens. Don't tar them all with the same brush; they aren't all mad, they don't all have shit feet, they aren't all poor doers. Most live out fine in winter. I've had ones you can pull in after months off, jump on and they don't bat an eyelid, and others that buck and spook no matter how much work they have.
Obviously there are mad, neurotic, skinny nut jobs with bad feet, but much like any breed - you have good 'uns and bad 'uns. Magic is best placed to know what this particular horse is like and therefore best placed to judge him.
Well said octane girl, I have ridden ex- race horses and they were very polite to handle, excellant in traffic a pleasure to do.
Funnily enough a friend had a ex police horse wasn't 100% so never got posted but it's temperament was awful, very rude in the stable and was the most horrible bitting horse, I always thought that was why it didn't go into full police service but apparently not. Saying that though would re- home a police home in need when dd is old enough to hack out with mummy and daddy it would be lovely to have a nice horse rather than our darling duo!!
Good luck with lost boy he sounds like it was meant to be!!!
Delurking to ask whether there's an update? Is Lost Boy less lost?
Another lurker wondering what the up to date scoop is?
Looking at the picture of him he looks like a race horse straight out of training. Has he got a tendon or any obvious injury? It looks like a really well horse maybe he was stolen? I would get as many pictures on forums etc as possible and let the police know. Can you tweet picture also?
Nice problem to have in some ways but really sad for the poor horse. Good luck
Is it wrong that I read your very first post and my thought was "well is it a nice horse?!"
I have a big big soft spot for bay Tbs, and my previous horse was an ex racer. He was fantastic in traffic and with the vet/farrier
With good rugs and food he would be able to live out the majority of the year (although they are soft gits so he may not agree with me)
also wondering on any updates OP.....how are you and he faring?
Sorry have been internetless.
Hes still here ..
this probably surprises none of you
Long version ... The owners that he was passed to 3 months ago have been contacted. They apparently loaned him out due to him not beng suitable for their 10 year old
no shit sherlock His loaner appears to have returned him to their field, the loaner says he said he was returning, they say he didnt, but upshot is that he has got out of the field, and they no longer pay rental on it anyway so cant have him back, they dont know what to do with him, they are scared of him. Blah blah blah blah.
Short version ... his owners dont want him back.
My vet has said that The Horse as he has now become known (his name is actually Mac) appears sound, and certainly it appears there is no reason he couldnt become retrained as something useful, so its just whether I do it or not.
A friend of a friend works retraining racehorses, and she has said that she will come out and do an initial assessent for me, and give her opinion. However that isnt going to be until after Xmas, so until then at least he is here. Depending on what she says, and what the vet discovers when he gets the full previous vet records, Ill then decide whether he remains and I look at turning him into a hack, whether he remains and is only useful as a companion, or whether hell just be too much for me, and I sign him over to a racehorse rehabilition centre if there is one that will take him. There is also a place that retrains them for you, but its £125 per week, and they reckon (depending on the horse) that it can take anything from 2 - 6 months ... but to be honest thats alot of money to fork out.
I would like to keep him because i have fallen in love with him, and hes already been passed around loads, and I know i would keep him as long as possible, but also I have to be realistic and if hes going to be too much time wise then ill have to source a decent home for him.
who buys an ex racehorse for a 10 year old?
thanks for update though, have been wondering how you were getting on, it's great to have a name for him - good luck with whatever comes next, either way he is in safe hands now
poor Mac up until now though
by the way, have you got everything you need for him at the moment?
Wow! you really must keep a horse with such talents as this. Not only has he 'got out' of their field but he had the presence of mind to take some bolt croppers with him so he could break into your field .
Didn't mean to copy your 'wow' btw. I'd already typed that bit then got distracted by the realisation that the cat has brought in a mouse and it is loose in my
shithole mildly cluttered living room!
yeah yeah a likely story
although I believe you really, I read magicllama's latest post like this just WTF. Poor Mac.
hope the cat eats the whole mouse, mine never do
What kind of fucking twat gives someone an untrained ex racer for a 10yo?! What is wrong with people! <<incredibly angry>>
This poor horse has been put through God knows what because the people who didn't want him didn't care about him enough to give a shit about where he went!
I'd rather shoot a horse than see it passed from pillar to post like an unwanted toy! It's not fair!
My first horse was an ex race mare , FWIW she was the safest hack I ever had , nothing fazed her at all . Bloody nuisance in the stable and completely neurotic but bombproof in traffic. Good luck with him . Have you got his owners to sign something to the effect that they are gifting him to you as you don't want to spend time and money on him only to find that they then try to claim him back when you have made him more saleable or suitable for their daughter.
Poor Mac - passed around like that by fools. Thank goodness he found you :-)
We used to have an ex racer at the riding school I worked in.
Utterly safe ride for beginners, would work nicely for more able riders and bomb proof out hacking. You could stick a novice on him and trust him to canter sedately at the back. Probably why he was an EX racer; he just didn't mind being last.
However in the stable he was the most evil horse I've ever met.
At least he's got a nice name .
Aren't you supposed to do some thing where they sell him to you for £1 to make it all legal?
Alameda, don't know he's never brought one in before. I usually manage to slam the door in his face if he has a mouse (no catflaps here).
If his owners don't want him anymore, you need to get them to sell him to you. The amount is nominal, £1, £10 etc, but it is then legally binding. Get a receipt, and something signed by them.
X posted with Pixel!
This is definitely a horse with special skills: able to get loose, find your field, acquire, use and then hide some bolt cutters
Just found this thread - Mac is v.lucky he 'found' you. Ex-racers aren't always easy but of the ones I've been around / involved with:
One has just retired from the hunting field at the age of 24 - took on anything, and was pretty bombproof, but came back when requested
One is up at my current stables and I ride him in a lesson once a week - he's
bloody fast forward going into jumps, but heart of gold and wants to get over them clean and with the rider still on his back
Ex-National hunt jumper (retired as too 'slow') - good when showjumping, not to be let loose in 'company'
Flat racer that was too slow as a 3 year old - turning out to be a rather magnificent polocrosser though
Anyway, the above is a long winded way of saying Mac sounds as though he'll be fun. Will be interesting to see what your trainer friend thinks. Wishing you both a long and happy time together.
im glad you updated and i wish you well with him, i do hope you keep him - he sounds like he has been through quite a few idiot owners.....
My dad learnt to ride on an ex-racer, he was a lovely horse. I rode a half blind pony called Nutmeg who'd bolt at his own shadow. I loved him anyway.
I have to admit I am a bit by the whole thing too.
There is no way he let himself into my field, and the whole fact its padlocked means it unlikely a passer by happened to put him in because he was roaming around! The place where they
apparently kept him is about 15 miles away accross farmland & woodland. It just all seems a bit suss, but then whilst Ive seen horses escaped and roaming, and even dumped in a random field before, theyve either been in bad shape or reunited with their owners.
Its just depressing really. Preloved and stuff is full of horses "free to good home" but very rarely do people even check its a good home. I mean its like saying I can have him because I sound nice. Well im going to sound nice on the phone if im trying to persuade someone to give me their horse aren't I.
I didnt think about the whole have to legally sign him over, so ill have to get that sorted, and they are apparently sending his passport over.
Yes ive got most of the stuff I need for him. The only thing I didnt have was rugs and ive got a couple off ebay & preloved so hes all sorted, and a friend with a similar sized horse has given me a couple of her old ones
as her horse is the most spoilt horse ever and has about 20 of everything
Well the retrained ex racers from peoples stories, appear to be either really nice or really insane. The closest Ive ever been to insane was a saddlebred I resuced when I was 18 who kept trying to kill me. We eventually sorted it out, but I know that with the kids there is no way I have the time to spend with a massively project horse. Something that requires some schooling & some work fair enough, but I need something I trust because the kids are around,and I dont want them not to be able to do their own ponies, because ive got a "challenging" one IYSWIM?
Ill have to see whats said about him when the vets got all the info from the previous vet, and when hes been assessed, and then take it from there.
I might well be back asking which of you wants to take a racehorse off my hands
A lot of how they are is how they are handled IMO. Now that he appears to have landed on his hooves with you, you'll probably find he'll settle really well - they love routine. More than anything else it's probably a question of taking it slowly. The advantage of racers is that they have seen so much, I've found things like loading, shoeing, clipping etc is a doddle because they are so used to it which is a huge advantage.
Can you request his previous "owners" for any kit do you think?
it would not surprise me if they let you spend money sorting him then tried claiming him back - get them to "sell" him to you for consideration of a £1 get an agreement/signed/ witnessed before you spend any ££
Definitely ^^ that!
Unbelievable, they put him out on loan - having been silly enough to get him for a 10 year old and when loan doesn't work out - don't want him back!!!? Weird!
Definately get ownership and then at least you can make a decision on him being yours to do whatever with. Poor Mac, what a life, for him so far, like something out of a novel.
Keep a diary, it would make an amazing book!
Best of luck and I am sure if you need help with funds, or equipment, you will get it on here.
I think from speaking to them, that they saw him advertised as free, didnt realise the work he would require, got him and then once they did just shipped him out again. Theres loads of horses advertised as free on places like preloved at the moment, and I suspect a fair few of them are destined for similar stories to come.
They are going to sign him over for a nominal sum of £1, but he comes with no equiment . Ive got rugs sorted, ive got a bridle that fits him, so itll just be a saddle, but ill sort that closer to the time he needs to be ridden. Theres a shop about 30 mins away which sells second hand ones so I can get one from there.
Ha my diary which I keep for my counsellor, already reads like a soap opera, what with my toxic family, dealings with the idiotic fathers of my DSs, and the long running saga I have with living in the wilderness!
Do you know we once had a budgie in a cage dumped outside?! I mean what the heck? Who dumps a budgie in a cage?
To be honest, I dont want to take funds from people off here, despite the generous offers, as its not about scamming money off anyone, its just nice to have a sounding board for the WTF moments that go on and advice about things IYSWIM?
However, if anyone has useful tips of how to work with him, or their experiences of TBs (as I still think of them as highly strung horses who need pampering) then id love to have them off you
The plan is to just leave him turned away (well with bringing him in at night) and just day to day handling of him, which he seems OK with anyway, and then my friends friend, will come and assess him for me in the new year, and then ill take it from there.
Don't worry, I don't have any spare money anyway!
Or knowledge of TBs unfortunately. Glad you will finally have some rights to go along with all the responsibilities for him.
I would imagine just do as you are planning - lots of handling, grooming, getting to know him, correcting any problems with his manners (if he has any). I found this www.ror.org.uk/care_exracehorse.htm with a quick google and I imagine other sites will have useful information as well. There does seem to be a lot of info on there in various places and although a lot of it is common sense I found it really interesting to have it set out step by step.
I'm sure that your hard work and care will be rewarded and I for one think you are a star for giving him another chance, the alternatives are too awful to contemplate.
Slow and steady. And any lessons in small bites. Friends warmblood has a 20 minute lesson on something new, then parks. Apparently he can't move and think! When she puts him away, he stands in his stable rocking his head very slightly, having a good old ponder with a far away look in his eye! we reckon he doesn't have a brain, just a marble which he has to keep moving in order to think!
it defies belief that anyone would get an ex racer for a 10 yr old. im still amazed by the stupidity of people.
have you asked them where his saddle is? i would....cheeky gits. Im glad he has found you and i hope you manage to work with him.
They've probably already sold it!
You'd think that such a talented horse would have packed himself a little suitcase along with his bolt croppers!
Just popped back to see what happened. That is a very lucky horse to have ended up with you. I hope the re-training etc goes well: please let us know
How are things going Magic? I hope he's settling well and you're getting to know him.
Do let us know! bet he's got his hooves under the table ...
without wanting to send you all to the daily Mail, there's a story today that someone has dumped four horses in Jodie Marsh's front garden...
WOuld love an update on this story though, MagicLlama
I too would love an update
Look at the link - not good news though.
oh bloody hell. thanks frosty. What a end to the story.
Bloody hell. That made me cry. I had to stop reading. I don't even like horses.
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