Please spare some positive thinking for Nell

(44 Posts)
50BalesOfHay Mon 12-Nov-12 14:03:32

DH's beloved mare (Nell) is undergoing investigations. The working diagnosis is squamous cell carcinoma in her eye. She needs a biopsy, then we'll have an idea of the prognosis and how aggressive the treatment will be. Maybe the combined positive vibes from the Tack Room might help? Or has anyone got any experience of this condition? (I was Treblesallround, by the way, if anyone remembers me)

Mirage Mon 12-Nov-12 15:04:09

Oh no! Will cross everything and send positive vibes.At least you have the best vets on the case.When will you hear anything?

gordyslovesheep Mon 12-Nov-12 19:38:11

no experience but loads of positive vibes from me xxx

Oh that's bad news. I've no idea about it I'm afraid but will be thinking positive for you all. Fingers and toes are crossed.

CMOTDibbler Tue 13-Nov-12 12:45:33

Thinking of her. Is it actually in her eye, or just v close to it ?

50BalesOfHay Tue 13-Nov-12 13:12:14

Thanks all, the growth is on her eyeball. Biopsy booked for Friday but the vet's not hopeful it's anything else. If the biopsy is positive the likelihood is that she'll have to have the eye removed and a further biopsy of her lymph nodes to see whether it's spread.

And 3 weeks ago we decided to stop insuring the 'happy hacker' horses for vet fees, as we needed to reduce our monthly outgoings. Twill be very frugal round here for a long time!

Well if she does have to have the eye taken out don't lose heart. I know there are many horses managing perfectly well with one eye doing all sorts of things.

Our ageing spaniel had an eye ulcer and on the vet's advice we had the eye removed. Bearing in mind she was 14, deaf and as nutty as a fruitcake we thought she'd find it really hard, but amazingly it only took a couple of days before she worked out that she couldn't see on that side and how to put herself in a position to see with the other. Yes, she bumped into a few things, but actually it was miraculous to see how quickly she learned. Her companion was great too, she "herded" her when she thought she was going the wrong way (bit like a blind person being accompanied across the road when they don't want to go possibly!).

Sods law about the insurance though.

Callisto Tue 13-Nov-12 14:18:54

So sorry to hear that 50 (and yes, I remember you as trebles). Good luck with it all.

Mirage Tue 13-Nov-12 22:01:04

Oh Dear,if she does need to have the eye removed,they can cope very well with only one.DD1 learnt to ride on a one eyed pony and had no trouble.Fingers crossed for you all.

ThatVikRinA22 Tue 13-Nov-12 22:28:41

more well wishing vibes from camp tutu.....when will you know?

Plomino Wed 14-Nov-12 00:04:06

Lots of positive pony vibes from us too ! Infuriating about the insurance though . I got caught out with one of our dogs , and it cost us over £3000 . That was a lesson learned .

booksinbed Thu 15-Nov-12 19:22:33

Hi there- sending much love and many positive vibes and

Hoping today goes well 50Bales - let us know how it goes.

Alameda Fri 16-Nov-12 23:28:44

any news? x

50BalesOfHay Sat 17-Nov-12 18:41:05

I hope we don't have to travel with her too often! 700kg of draft horse who really really doesn't want to get on the lorry, then once eventually loaded stomps up and down all the way to the vet isn't an experience I want to repeat too often!

The vet got good samples, so we should get an accurate result, we'll know mid to end of next week, and she's recovered well from the procedure

However, it's in both eyes, they found a small lesion in what we thought was the good eye, so if it is carcinoma the likely prognosis isn't great. On the positive side though, it's not that common to get it in both eyes so that may indicate it's something else. DH swinging between optimism and devastation at the minute.

Thanks for the good vibes, they do help!

booksinbed Sat 17-Nov-12 19:02:04

If its not that common then lets hope that it is something else.Look after yourselves and we are all thinking of you and sending positive thoughts.

Alameda Sun 18-Nov-12 14:42:45

eeek squeamish but sending love without reading any details!

Mirage Sun 18-Nov-12 21:10:14

Still sending positive thoughts.You know where I am!

Fingers still crossed for you.

50BalesOfHay Thu 22-Nov-12 14:27:12

Well we got the results of the biopsy and it is squamous cell carcinoma in both eyes. Our vets are referring her to the Liverpool University vet hospital as they've had very good results with topical chemotherapy, so there may be some hope for a positive outcome, without extensive surgery. We're trying to stay positive at the minute, and trying not to worry about the money too much. It will be better once we know what the options are.

CMOTDibbler Thu 22-Nov-12 14:30:13

Sorry to hear that. But she's in great hands at Liverpool

50BalesOfHay Thu 22-Nov-12 14:40:37

Not looking forward to transporting her from Leicestershire to Liverpool though! She was bad enough the 3 miles from the yard to our vets!

That's a shame, I'm sorry to hear that. Liverpool is the best place though and if anyone can do anything they can. Does she travel better with a companion - would you be allowed to take one? If she's a greedy guts it may be worth starving her before she goes and distracting while on board with some hay - this worked for a bad traveller I had, although not always. When do you think treatment will start and how does it work? Fingers still crossed for you.

Mirage Thu 22-Nov-12 18:47:13

I'm sorry to hear this,but the fact it can be treated is a positive.I'm not busy at the minute and if you do need any help,please let me know.

booksinbed Mon 26-Nov-12 09:52:52

Just to say thinking of you x

dappleton Wed 28-Nov-12 08:41:16

Just seen your post now, my heart sank for you when I got to your last update. So sorry to hear this and really wish Nell all the best, hoping Liverpool can help her make a full recovery. x

Alameda Wed 28-Nov-12 14:21:28

Good luck with your treatment Nell. Lots of love!

50BalesOfHay Sun 02-Dec-12 12:08:41

Well we're taking her up to Liverpool on 17th December. If they need to operate they'll keep her in then refer her back to our vets for any ongoing treatment. At least then we'll know what the options are, and have a better understanding of what we're dealing with and the prognosis. DH is very restless and worried, I'm keeping sane by trying to work out the logistics of transport/work/kids/accommodation for a trip where we don't know how long she'll need to stay!

Alameda Sun 02-Dec-12 12:53:15

as if winter/Christmas not stressful enough!

hope you can work it all out somehow x

booksinbed Mon 03-Dec-12 09:23:51

All the best to you.Do you need accomadation - we are bout hour an bit from liverpol if it wd help you financially but im not sure if pertol cost wd negate any benefit ..offer ther eif you need us tho

50BalesOfHay Wed 05-Dec-12 13:43:58

Thanks books, that's lovely of you. We've got more info now, they'll do surgery (possibly laser) to reduce the size of the tumors, then topical chemo so she'll be in for at least 4 days. We'll travel up with her then come back that evening then go up to collect her when she's ready to come home. It will be hard leaving her there, but it's the only way to sort the logistics.

We're going to sedate her for the journey. I did wonder about taking my horse up for company but Nell can be a grouch with other horses and she's so big we'd need a huge lorry to accommodate both of them. So if you're on the M6 on 17th December and see a horsebox rocking that'll be us!

That's good that you've got a date, although it's a shame it couldn't be a bit sooner. Fingers will be crossed again for her then.....had to uncross them to plait and go hunting!

50BalesOfHay Mon 17-Dec-12 20:16:43

Good news from our trip up to Liverpool: they are going to operate tomorrow to remove the tumors then start her on chemo. As long as she comes through a general anaesthetic ok there's a very good chance of a cure (and the estimate is around £1500 less than I expected so hopefully won't be bankrupt).

She travelled really well, and loaded first time. Domosedan is the most wonderful sedative, she was utterly docile but not too out of it.

3 hours each way has left us knackered though. Got to do it again on Friday to collect her, with a bit of luck. DH is much happier

Mirage Mon 17-Dec-12 20:53:14

I'm glad it's sounds positive and that the trip went well.Fingers crossed for her

dappleton Tue 18-Dec-12 10:11:06

good luck for today!

50BalesOfHay Tue 18-Dec-12 14:14:56

Just heard from the vet, she's out of surgery, back on her feet and recovering well. The operation went well with no complications and we should be able to bring her home on Friday. So relieved smile

That's great - the ga is the dangerous aspect of most operations I believe. How does chemo work - is it via injection or drip do you know?

Can I have some Domosedan please - it sounds wonderful?! At least your journey on Friday will be with a lighter heart IYSWIM, hopefully it will make the journey less stressful and she will be so pleased to see you.

My horse was sedated to have his back injections at the vet and it was so lovely when I went to get him that he called for me as soon as he heard my voice and sniffed me all over!

Mirage Tue 18-Dec-12 19:00:21

Hurray for Nell! What a lovely Christmas present,to have her back home.

50BalesOfHay Wed 19-Dec-12 08:12:12

The chemo is just drops in her eyes, so nothing horrid, not like for humans so we can do it at home. DH is over the moon

CMOTDibbler Wed 19-Dec-12 08:13:50

Brilliant news !

dappleton Wed 19-Dec-12 09:29:28

smile great news!

Plomino Wed 19-Dec-12 09:51:28

Yay! So pleased for you all .

Kormachameleon Wed 19-Dec-12 10:01:52

<<< cries>>>
Only just seen this and read it but what an ending !

I'm so , so pleased for you and nell

booksinbed Wed 19-Dec-12 14:06:04

so so pleased for you xx

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