11hh pony or forever type 14hh for 6 year old child? help

(58 Posts)
anydreamwilldo Sun 02-Mar-14 09:06:40

Have to make a decision, both lovely ponies. The little one she will love but fear she will outgrow it and be heart-broken when he has to move on. Don't want to over-horse her with the cob, but we could keep him forever ........ don't know what to do. Any ideas welcome, probably lots of things I haven't thought of? Thanks

britnay Mon 03-Mar-14 17:19:20

Have you tried contacting your local pony club? That's the best place to start looking for ponies.
OP, do you have much experience with horses yourself? How long has your daughter been having riding lessons for?

anydreamwilldo Mon 03-Mar-14 18:35:14

DGD currently rides ponies between 11hh and 13hh, she's off lead rein and starting to canter and jump little poles. She also hacks out on a very safe plod with other children and adults.
Her favourite pony is an elderly 11hh with a very bouncy trot and sometimes a bit naughty.
If we get the little one the older girls at stables will ride her for a while, DGD may have to go on lead rein for while. We will mostly hack and play in the field, no pony club or shows for us. Think she just wants a pony friend. DGD can tack up and poo pick etc

anydreamwilldo Mon 03-Mar-14 18:41:45

Oh pony is 10 years old had a foal when she was very young. I have not owned a horse before, loaned many years ago. Now I fill haynets and walk miles across the welsh countryside while GD rides. I have jumped on a pony for a little ride but did I ache later!

Booboostoo Mon 03-Mar-14 20:27:24

I think you need an elderly pony ready for a quieter life. Everyone moving from RC to their first horse needs to take a step back. The pony will know its job, your DD will have fun and her confidence will build up. In 2-3 years you can think about getting something more forward going for more advanced riding.

5OBalesofHay Mon 03-Mar-14 22:01:41

An experienced child's pony is certainly a joy. That's the pony who made my gd a confident rider. Then a period of riding difficult, young, challenging ones made her the capable rider she is now at nearly 15. (Plus really regular lessons, with a great instructor, loads of pony club etc)

If you can get hold of a lovely schoolmaster they are worth their weight in gold.

anydreamwilldo Tue 04-Mar-14 07:40:04

Thank you all so much for advice, definitely not getting the cob, taking an experienced friend and her daughter (to ride) to look at the little pony again. Realise now how much DGD riding needs may change over the years.
May also look at some loans but not many available around here.

bishboschone Tue 04-Mar-14 07:47:32

I got my 14.2 pony when I was 10 . I was super short but I loved it . I too kept her until she died at 37!!!!!!!

Butkin Tue 04-Mar-14 10:08:33

At the level she's at I'd suggest she'll outgrown the little one quite quickly - especially if she takes most of this year to re-establish. I think you should keep looking for an older 12 hand type she can ride for the next 3 or 4 years.

SaggyOldClothCatPuss Tue 04-Mar-14 10:55:57

Dear GOD! Please don't buy a 6yo a fricking 14hh COB! Thats got to be the insanest thing I've heard in years!
Even the steadiest school master will be far and away too big and will soon learn to take the piss. How will she get its head up if it decides to stop and eat? How will she stop it if it sods off? She will be far too small to cope with its paces and will be bounced about all over the place.
What if it decided to be an idiot and knock her over? or stand on her foot?
The mind boggles!
DD at 6 was an average sized kid and her sec A was a git. Even at 11.2 she was too much. DD is 15 now and an average skinny 5'2, she can still ride the old mare at a push and her current pony is a 12.3 new forest. No, they will never look good in a show ring, but they're more than happy to hack about, jump stuff and generally have teenage fun.

Booboostoo Tue 04-Mar-14 11:47:30

When it comes to outgrowing you only have two options:
- buy what is suitable now (size and temperament) and accept it may well be outgrown in 1, 2 or 3 years' time
- buy something that is suitable for later but risk shatering your DD's confidence now. The risk is also that your DD will be seriously hurt if she fails to have this pony under control.

If you are buying for a child or someone who has competitive ambitions or someone who is very novicey and is likely to progress a lot you have no option but to bite the bullet and accept that the horse will be outgrown in a few years. Better than the alternative though!

bishboschone Tue 04-Mar-14 11:55:29

Saggy is right though , my lnot was a thoroughbred type. I never did cobs but yeah how will she hold it ?

MsBehave Tue 04-Mar-14 14:51:13

Personally, I would be looking around for a 12.2hh all rounder who's been there and done it but isn't a total plod.

At her age, with the best will in the world and the kindest cob on the earth, she will not be able to handle something of that size. She will be restricted on what she can do and feels capable of doing on a mount that size and she will need so much help with handling which is invaluable where bonding is concerned between horse and rider.

I would also strongly suspect that it may break her confidence if an animal of that size in comparison to her decides to act up even a little bit and as somebody else said, it's much easier to fall from a 12hh pony than a 14hh cob and besides that, her little legs will be stretched over a barrel with a cob which means any leg aids would be utterly useless. Even if the cob doesn't take advantage of her, it won't do her confidence any favours for her to feel her aids are being 'ignored'.
Much better in many ways to go for a 12hh - 13hh (maximum) pony that she can enjoy and have fun on for a few years, build her confidence and for her to feel comfortable and secure in the saddle.

I never outgrew the 14.3hh I got at 12 and I still have her now so the second pony may well end up being her 'friend for life' horse.

Good luck.

anydreamwilldo Tue 04-Mar-14 19:20:24

Thanks again folks, I've been offered the cob on loan and I'm having him for me!My eldest daughter will also ride him, she is more experienced than me. Going to see a nice little New Forest 12hh and 14 years old described as "good all rounder" so we'll see..........

Littlebigbum Tue 04-Mar-14 21:11:27

Exciting good luck

Booboostoo Wed 05-Mar-14 07:14:19

Great, good luck with your new pony!

If I were you I would be looking for a "first ridden" for your younger DD. "All rounder" describes too advanced a pony for a rider that is only just getting to grips with canter. She needs a pony that understands how to look after its little rider.

fullerlonger Sat 08-Mar-14 13:53:02

My 7 year old rides a 14.2 but he's the kindest mannerliest pony on earth and she's very confident - she is supposed to share a 13.2 with her sister but since my oldest dd outgrew the 14.2 it seems that dd3 has gone straight onto him confused

NigellasDealer Sat 08-Mar-14 13:56:46

how much would you pay for pretty 11hh section A ,10 years old but been left in the field a whole year
right now, it would depend on what it had done.
if nothing, about a fiver.
if exp with pony club, lead rein, showing classes, good to catch, box clip shoe then about 300 quid.

NigellasDealer Sat 08-Mar-14 13:57:44

do not be put off by people asking or quoting silly prices.
people are giving away horses and ponies at the moment, even in the south east.

NigellasDealer Sat 08-Mar-14 14:01:10

whatever they ask, offer half, I bet they will take it.

fullerlonger Sat 08-Mar-14 14:58:09

Yes anything below 14hh is struggling to sell. I've lost count of the amount of people asking me to keep an eye out for a lovely 14.2 though.

NigellasDealer Sat 08-Mar-14 15:00:50

really fuller, someone just practically gave us a lovely 14.2 gypsy vanner, well it is a loan but for all intents and purposes....

thinkingaboutfostering Fri 14-Mar-14 14:25:42

Think this thread is very sad hmm. Makes my blood boil when people think it's ok to pass on ponies simply because they no longer want/have use for them. You wouldn't do it to a dog so why would you sell on your child's pony! confused
If you take on responsibility for an animal you should honour that responsibility for the rest of their days. Hate watching ponies who have taught children so many valuable lessons simply cast aside like an old toy. Poor poor animals. hmmconfused
Op if you can't keep your child's potential new pony for the rest of its days then please do not buy one!!!

fullerlonger Fri 14-Mar-14 14:51:23

Oh fgs. Ponies like to have a job to do.

tattychicken Fri 14-Mar-14 16:19:14

That's ridiculous Thinking. You'd end up collecting loads of ponies! If the pony is elderly or unsound then you've got a point but otherwise selling them on to a good home where they can help another child is a sensible thing to do.

Booboostoo Fri 14-Mar-14 17:18:00

How would anyone ever get an experienced pony or even horse under that idea thinking? Leaving a young pony in a field with nothing to do is far more cruel than giving it a loving new home. If you wish to retain control you can always loan the pony out and make sure you have it back if it is ever out of work or when it's elderly.

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