Can I just go on about dd's pony as he's the first one we've ever bought and people don't seem to be very complimentary about him.(42 Posts)
We've loaned for the past three years. I bought him from an old school friend of dds - she was a nervous rider and hadn't done much with him for the last couple of years, hunting and hacking and two pc senior camps (where he was very well behaved). When her parents asked us if we wanted to buy him we went to see hiim and really liked him - asking around afterwards people were definitely not particularly complimentary as he wasn't 'proven'.
Our ponies are at livery atm and the YO told us not to buy him that he 'wasn't good enough' for dd. DD is a good rider but hasn't really done much - never been to PC camp, only a few rallies as her old pony hated SJ and anything in the school really. We needed a pony that would live out, hack happily, hunt sensibly and be able to take part in PC rallies without disgracing himself.
First rally today and he was very good, dd enjoys riding him, he's very 'looky' but extremely cheerful and quite bouncy, but he listens to dd and did what he was told. He rushes his fences a bit but seems very willing and genuine. He's a welsh x - 14.2 - pretty head, big feet, needs to build up a bit of muscle but I think he is nice looking. He seems a nice chap.
Was very sad to see that the YO had trimmed his feet and - I was cross - chopped off his forelock which was very pretty. She (YO) really doesn't seem to like him and hadn't even told the yard assistant his name :-(
Dd and I seem to be the only ones who like him and I am wondering if I have missed something!
Just a quick update - he's turned out to be a really lovely pony. We've had so many compliments now that I have become a bit blase :-D
He'll never make a show pony but he is very very safe, forward going, enthusiastic and did a fairly high level pony club xc rally with no issues - a couple of stops but we're working on it. He's put a couple of stops in SJ also but we are also working on this. We all love him, he couldn't be easier!
At the end of the day, he is your pony, not the yard owners or anyone elses. Your dd's safety and happiness is paramount, not the opinions of everybody else. If the YO is causing you a problem perhaps you could consider finding a different livery yard.
First day of xc rally and he was fab, put in a couple of stops but only one pony didn't, also Dd needed to keep her leg on more even though he was fast to the jumps. Feeling really happy about him as he is so chilled!
He sounds fantasticd
Still hoping for a picture so I can drool (as we are a long way off buying a pony for dd)
Oh well done! He sounds a real star and I'm sure he'll be just as good at SJ,he sounds so willing.Have fun at the cross country and let us know how it goes.Which course are you going to?
Thanks Callisto and Saggy,Brandy is now living permanently on my dads farm,along with dpony..There are tractors there,but not near enough their paddock for him to notice so I've asked if I can move him temporarily to a field next to the road.Dad is thinking about it and you can't push him otherwise he'll dig his heels in...As he isn't charging me for the field or hay,I don't want to upset him.[I'm not a total freeloader as I am 'paying' by working on the farm,and we are in the throes of lambing,so very busy.]
Quick update : he was brilliant at the hunt ride, very fast and jumped everything much to dds delight well behaved too, he seems a good mix of chilled when you need him to be and forward going and willing when ridden - a friend said more like a horse than a pony?! His clip still needs to fall out but he's not shedding at all yet. He has very big feet and does look a bit like a camel cross country rally tomorrow at a very demanding course so we'll see... Dd still anxious about sj as her old pony refused so often, but I think he'll be fine as he does that lovely ears pricked forward thing when he jumps in the school - sorry not a very technical description
He does poke his nose a bit and also stretches his neck out long and low when he's stopped working.
That's good, but if he's good enough to show even at local level, don't let her trim him again. Welsh should not be trimmed like that and if she shows at HOYS she should(and probably does) know it!
He sounds like a fab pony to me, despite YO's best attempts at undermining your confidence and enthusiasm for him. Really pleased you've found such a nice one.
If you are planning on showing as a native you need a 'natural'
judiciously pulled mane and tail. And dont trim any feather.
We had my mum's old horse on loan before he was ours and his owner always used to cut his forelock straight across. She called it his 'Beatle Cut' .
I agree chopped off square forelocks look silly. They should be pulled like manes.
Chopping a forelock too blunt/short has the same effect as it does on humans; its unflattering and makes the wearer look surprised.
No I know you shouldn't. That's why I never got into showing; my fingers always itch to pull messy/long manes <grin>
I like manes and forelocks to be neatish. But she chopped it off really square, it looks silly!
You shouldn't pull some natives manes if you are planning to show them?
I can't abide long, flowy manes. Even on horses it's meant to look nice on.
All horses should have manes neatly pulled to about 4-5 inches. Fact.
We hogged our Irish Draught X he looked very handsome ,but it is a decision that needs to be thought of very long term IYSWIM . Our Dartmoor has a lovely long mane and I think if I was the one doing the grooming I'd be sorely tempted but my sister just uses bucket loads of mane and tail spray .
My mum owns half of dhorse and is desperate to hog him but she'd still never do it behind my back
I can understand taking off the entire mane and forelock if you were cobbing out your horse, but just the forelock?
And there is no way a YO ought to be doing this without your consent!
OMG, I haven't read beyond your stupid YO chopping his forelock off. I would have gone ballistic if someone had taken it on themselves to do that to any horse of mine. Unbelievable.
I agree that it sounds as if your YO had an agenda, or perhaps she likes to think she is the only expert around? Anyway, he sounds lovely. Ignore anyone who is critical. If he suits your DD that is all that matters.
Mirage - DD's lead rein sheltie lived in a paddock next to a yard where huge farm machinery came and went all day. He is absolutely bombproof in traffic now.
Dd1 is at the yard today - YO gave her a mini lesson (she shows at HOYS so is pretty knowledgeable I guess) and said he worked on a fab outline and would do a lovely dressage test airpunch
Sounds like a good idea. Do you have a friendly farmer who could lodge him for a few days? He sounds great and Im glad you finally found the one for you. x
He's doing well,thankyou Saggy.We took him to the PC Bunny Hunt at the weekend,and he behaved perfectly [pics on profile].Afterwards his owners told me it was the first time he'd been out for nearly 2 years. I'm glad I didn't know that before we went.
We had a bit of an eventful hack on Tuesday,when he took fright at a tractor coming up behind him,and took off down the road at a gallop,dragging me along after him.I had to let go in the end and ended up with skinned knees and hands.He didn't go far though,and mercifully DD2 stayed on,despite being terrified.Luckily,they were both fine and we carried on with our hack as I didn't want him to get the idea he could go home.DD2 recovered her composure pretty fast,but we are going to have to do some serious traffic proofing.I'm thinking of building a pen next to the road and leaving him there for a week or so until he gets used to big vehicles.What do you think? It has got to be sorted as he can't go on like that,once he knows something won't hurt him,he is fine,he isn't a spooky sort in general.
We have his first PC rally tomorrow,it is also the first time he'll have been in an indoor school,fingers crossed it goes well.
Hows the new pony Mirage?
We were told by someone that dpony should be off loaded at the first opportunity,she wasn't pure bred,wasn't forward going enough [they'd never seen her hunting or cross country],was too grumpy,wouldn't jump high enough,not competative enough,wouldn't stable so couldn't be kept spotless.It just went on and on.
She is a hairy,opinionated Welsh cross and safe as houses,once you know how to ride her,she'll do anything for you.Strangely enough,after a year,the above person said to me how lucky we were to own her and he'd always said what a good pony she was.
I hope you have a lot of fun and prove all those doubters wrong.
He sounds great to me , just like my first pony !
FWIW , my first pony had very few fans at first , being ' too young ' , 'too dainty' 'too flighty ' 'too flashy ' oh yes and 'unproven'
We then spent the next 30 years 'proving' people wrong . She was my partner in crime and we had an absolute ball . My kids learned to ride on her , and I miss her to this day. If you like him, and your DD loves him, and he keeps her safe and does what you need him to , that's all you need to know . Opinions are great , but that's all they are . Doesn't mean they're right .
And I'd be having a conversation with your YO involving words and gestures too !
There's always someone who will have something less than complimentary to say about your horse. Usually because you didn't bother to ask for their opinion before you bred it/bought it.
You need to have words with the YO about random hairdos and pedicures and ignore the rest.
OMG I nearly swore when I read your yard owner had trimmed his feet - assuming you meant his FEET feet...then someone mentioned the feathers. Thank God for that.
Actually I would blow a gasket if the YO had done any trimming without my permission. What a bloody cheek.
A friend of mine moved a pony because of this - the yard pulled her ARAB's mane. Idiots!
He sounds great and a real confidence giver.
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