"Interesting&qu ot; sales technique

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superfluouscurves Fri 08-Mar-13 11:56:57
superfluouscurves Fri 08-Mar-13 12:01:11

Oops - that should have read mysogynistic "interesting""

Bonnefoi Fri 08-Mar-13 12:05:14

Lordy. shockJust boggling at the width of saddle that horse would need.

superfluouscurves Fri 08-Mar-13 12:24:46

and the feed bill ...

WillowKnicks Fri 08-Mar-13 12:45:47

We visited Kelly's Cobs last year to look at a pony & they had something similar then (think he was even bigger!) called Toffee...my dh's words were "imagine the state of the field with those hooves churning it!".

I rode a Belgian draft horse on holiday last year...she was HUGE!!

WillowKnicks Fri 08-Mar-13 12:48:20

We visited Kelly's Cobs last year to look at a pony & they had something similar then (think he was even bigger!) called Toffee...my dh's words were "imagine the state of the field with those hooves churning it!".

I rode a Belgian draft horse on holiday last year...she was HUGE!!

superfluouscurves Fri 08-Mar-13 12:55:20

Was it an Ardennais Willow?

I love those! They are meant to be quite gentle.

(I'm in Belgium as it happens.)

Might pm you about Kelly's Cobs if I may? Interested in buying a safe, weight-bearing, plod and they were going to be one of my port of calls. Ultra-cautious about buying from a dealer though.

Sperfluscurves can you me please about kellys cobs.

I can't write what id like too on here after the whole 'dealers' thread being pulled.

Callisto Fri 08-Mar-13 13:33:07

That is not a cob, its a bloody draught horse of some description. It's even got a brand. It must be an import. I wonder if the seller got it cheap on the continent (going for meat maybe?).

I must say that that spiel plus the fact he is trying to sell a draught horse as a riding cob would put me right off. It is hugely unprofessional and the seller sounds like he would be less than honest about the horses he sells.

Callisto Fri 08-Mar-13 13:42:56

Compare and contrast:
Dutch draft team
Belgian draft

WillowKnicks Fri 08-Mar-13 15:23:42

superfluscurves I can't remember if she was but apparently she was quite temperamental & would take off with a nervous rider...thankfully they didn't tell me that until I got off shock. Feel free to pm me about Kelly's Cobs...I didn't buy but did try out a pony for my daughter, so I would be really interested to hear any feedback from anyone else.

Calisto, yes you're right, they do import them in from the continent on a regular basis.

DolomitesDonkey Fri 08-Mar-13 15:49:00

Looks like a standard Belgian Ardennes draft to me. They're bred for meat often enough. Drive around rural Belgium and you'll see them with docked tails and working the farm.

A friend does dressage on hers. You need to hold on to your can because the earth moves! ;)

Fwiw, they don't churn up the mud because they've got big, wide dinner plates and if you don't shoe them ...

I had a massive genuine 17.2hh who shared a field with a couple of these big girls, they made her look like a spindly tb and she was full Hanoverian! wink

Pixel Fri 08-Mar-13 15:55:57

Never mind all that, I want a horse named Clarissa!

I wish the 20 stone girl at our yard had bought one of these instead of a TB X then I wouldn't have to avert my eyes so often, but yes, imagine buying tack! Do you think it would be a match even for a Wintec Wide? I've recently got one for dhorse and it's ridiculous how wide it looks up against a normal saddle, surely anything wider would be sort of flat confused.

Mmm yes musn't mention the D-word must we lest we say something true unflattering...

superfluouscurves Fri 08-Mar-13 16:10:59

willow thank you! Sorry, I don't have any info at all about Kellys Cobs but am seeking it ... wondering if they are worth a visit.

Glad you survived the ride on the Ardennes!

chocolatecakeystuff will do!

Dolomites agree it definitely looks like an Ardennes (would be easier to tell if it was a bit better groomed) and yes, still quite a few butchers selling horse-meat here

Pixel sorry to be really thick/slow on update but intrigued by 'D' word????

Is no-one going to say anything about the ex-wife comment then? That is putting me off already...

Pixel Fri 08-Mar-13 16:33:36

<whispers> Dealers. We've had a few threads pulled recently because people related their frustration at being sold unsuitable horses by a certain dealer with a terrible after-sales/returns policy.

That is a blooming draft not a cob - that would put me off these 'sellers' to start with
Either they don't know the breeding or are being deliberately vague so as to not put people off

The actual listing is ridiculous though and the horse is overweight so I wouldn't be bragging about the size of its arse

These horses are bought cheaply by dealers and are often just going for meat due to soundness problems
Then they bring them over here and sell them on

Quite often they haven't actual done much riding either but are sold as bombproof riding ponies due to temperament

However a draft horse is not ideal for a beginner as although lovely and kind , they can be stroppy buggers and totally aware of their own size and strength

superfluouscurves Fri 08-Mar-13 16:49:17

Pixel Of course! Duh! Sorry!!!! Must drink less red wine get to bed on time ...brain has gone to sleep today ...

A real nuisance if you genuinely want to find out about which are good, and which are not.

Agree Kormachameleon!!

Littlebigbum Fri 08-Mar-13 17:33:53

Went to the web site, omg she has 7 heavy horse ???? pls pm if any feed back

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Littlebigbum Fri 08-Mar-13 19:23:35

Good to know, love heavy horse.

Littlebigbum Fri 08-Mar-13 19:24:47

lol the only saddle I have that would fit is a racing saddle very old. I just think that is so funny

Pixel Fri 08-Mar-13 19:32:49

The ones thou shall not name are talking about changing their name so you won't be able to name them anyway grin.

Really to what? 'Just another dealer' ? Hehehe

Littlebigbum Fri 08-Mar-13 19:45:22

Twice the price dealer?

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