(36 Posts)
BlueElephant90 Sun 18-Nov-12 17:07:35

Is it ok for a teacher to tell a child ''!''?

FromEsme Sun 18-Nov-12 17:08:20


Like "take your bag off"?

BodyOfEeyore Sun 18-Nov-12 17:09:10

Yes. I say (and shout) it several times a day.

Mathsdidi Sun 18-Nov-12 17:11:28

I do it quite regularly so I hope it's ok.

It's always after I've already told the whole class to put their bags on the floor and we're all ready to get started with the lesson. It wouldn't be the first thing I say about bags.

BlueElephant90 Sun 18-Nov-12 17:13:14

FromEsme, no not that polite!
It's more the way BodyOfEeyore uses it proudly shock

EvilTwins Sun 18-Nov-12 17:13:39

I want my classroom door to have a clever gadgety thing that repeats "bags behind the door. Bags behind the door" for me as the kids come in. I get bored of saying it.

FromEsme Sun 18-Nov-12 17:14:08

I think it is quite rude, actually.

BlueElephant90 Sun 18-Nov-12 17:14:55

Sorry I haven't written it well I think! There are few letters missing and it is rude

BlueElephant90 Sun 18-Nov-12 17:15:52

it's not about bags

I'm not seeing a problem...

Mathsdidi Sun 18-Nov-12 17:18:28

What exactly are they telling them to do if it isn't about bags?

BodyOfEeyore Sun 18-Nov-12 17:19:20

Really? Proudly? I shouldn't have to tell a secondary aged student to remove their bag from their back when they have been sitting in the classroom for several minutes and are well aware of the rules and have already been asked.

BodyOfEeyore Sun 18-Nov-12 17:20:16

What are you on about if this isn't about bags?

FromEsme Sun 18-Nov-12 17:20:21

OP just type what you are actually asking. Is it to do with bags? Swearing?

I'm so confused.

BlueElephant90 Sun 18-Nov-12 17:21:03

I am SO SORRY. I have written wrong it is bugger off

FromEsme Sun 18-Nov-12 17:21:58


No, of course that's not ok. It's not ok to say that to anyone, apart from maybe a friend if you're joking about.

Blatherskite Sun 18-Nov-12 17:22:44

A few letters missing?

Do you mean Bagger off?

Like Bugger off?

This is MN. Swearing is OK and stars just confuse things

BodyOfEeyore Sun 18-Nov-12 17:22:53

I would never say that to a student. That is very different to telling them to take their bag off.

BlueElephant90 Sun 18-Nov-12 17:23:33

No it was said to a 12 year old boy in front of other teachers and students.

Mathsdidi Sun 18-Nov-12 17:24:27

No, in that case I wouldn't find it appropriate. But I do know a couple of teachers who do say it to a class they have a particularly good relationship with and all concerned know it is friendly banter.

BodyOfEeyore Sun 18-Nov-12 17:24:50

Are you sure he wasn't being asked to take his bag do seem confused hmm

roughtyping Sun 18-Nov-12 17:25:00

I AM CRYING! This is so funny!!! Oh BlueElephant, poor you!

TheFallenMadonna Sun 18-Nov-12 17:25:46

I just say "bag" to anyone who is still wearing their bag when I want to start the lesson.

Do you really mean that a teacher is saying bugger off? Several times a day? Blimey.

BlueElephant90 Sun 18-Nov-12 17:25:47

Oh I am glad BodyofEeyore. I was worried for a minute but it is my fault for not being clear smile

MrsCantSayAnything Sun 18-Nov-12 17:27:43

I'm confused.

BlueElephant90 Sun 18-Nov-12 17:27:59

No I am not confused about what has happened; the boy had no bag...

BlueElephant90 Sun 18-Nov-12 17:30:06

Ok shall I start again? A new thread to avoid confusion?

MrsCantSayAnything Sun 18-Nov-12 17:30:31

No...I'M confused. Not you.

Or are you?

Blatherskite Sun 18-Nov-12 17:33:00

The teacher has been telling kids to "Bugger off"

A mixture of censorship and spelling mistakes and everything went wrong

WelshMoth Sun 25-Nov-12 12:32:06

"Bag off!" FINE.

"Bugger Off!". NOT FINE. NOPE. NEVER.

ChippingInLovesAutumn Sun 25-Nov-12 12:35:30

It depends on the context, how it was said, the relationship between the child and the teacher... people are getting far too precious these days, they really are.

BlueElephant90 Sun 25-Nov-12 17:03:19

''It depends on the context, how it was said, the relationship between the child and the teacher... people are getting far too precious these days, they really are.''
Yes it is true, it depends on the context. Well in this situation it is said by a teacher who cannot stand the level of his pupils. He cannot stand the fact that they are non sporty.
Is that too precious?!

Dominodonkey Mon 03-Dec-12 22:48:10

"It depends on the context, how it was said, the relationship between the child and the teacher... people are getting far too precious these days, they really are."

I am one of the least precious people in the world. Never take offence, think teachers should be able to be honest with students, shout at them etc.
I cannot think of any circumstance where this would be ok, that's not to say it should be a hanging offence if the phrase slipped out once with a senior class but should certainly not be considered as normal.

ChippingInLovesAutumn Tue 04-Dec-12 23:42:18

Well, it would have helped if a) you had posted what he actually said in the first place and b) if you had given a little context.

But in general, I don't have a problem with a teacher telling a 12 year old to 'Bugger Off' if they're being a pain in the arse.

LynetteScavo Tue 04-Dec-12 23:47:22

Surely it would be "bag orf"

Quite acceptable in some independent schools, but I would imagine a disciplinary offence in most state schools.

BlueElephant90 Wed 12-Dec-12 13:03:34

FYI I had started another thread ''When is it ok for a teacher to tell a child to bugger off?

*I would imagine a disciplinary offence in most state schools*I am glad you think so because it is out of order.

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