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(22 Posts)
MatchsticksForMyEyes Sat 06-Feb-16 21:13:30

I've been teaching 11 years and at this school since September.
Here pupils are allowed in form rooms at breaks and lunch. My form is Y10.
Since the beginning I have had trouble with them on and off. Some of the girls are typical teens with attitude and can be very disrespectful in the way they speak to me. Phone calls home made things worse.
The boys take things off my desk if I spend more than about ten minutes away from the room at lunch. Have found tissues on the floor, paperclips over the floor, displays wrecked etc. Head of Year says ban them and I have, but nothing changes as they do stuff when they first get in before registration.
I am trying not to take it personally as other tutors are having similar problems, but I do find it frustrating that I am effectively doing five lunchtime duties. This is supposed to be a nice school in a nice area, but my form in a far poorer area had much nicer kids than this.
Monday the HoY and I need to speak to a group of boys who ripped a piece of my display off and drew a penis on it. I really wish they were not allowed in the rooms at lunchtimes like my last school.

IguanaTail Sat 06-Feb-16 21:14:30

Can't you lock your door?

IguanaTail Sat 06-Feb-16 21:14:53

Or ask for a large padlock to be fitted

MatchsticksForMyEyes Sat 06-Feb-16 21:15:40

We aren't allowed to lock them out sadly. School policy.

IguanaTail Sat 06-Feb-16 21:32:19

Surely at the point at which they are destroying displays, being messy and stealing things from you, you have a right to ask for them to be locked out for at least a fixed period? Ask the headteacher.

MatchsticksForMyEyes Sat 06-Feb-16 21:37:37

Yeah I will. I feel for the kids who are in there not messing about though. These boys just act like little kids.

MrsGuyOfGisbo Sun 07-Feb-16 15:13:10

This is amazing. As a supply teacher I got to lots of schools, and the classrooms are always locked unless a teacher is working (alone) in there, or it is a lesson.

MatchsticksForMyEyes Sun 07-Feb-16 16:59:20

I know. I would love it if this were the case.

willowsummers Sun 07-Feb-16 17:04:58

I'm so glad I am no longer a form tutor. No advice, but plenty of sympathy. Every tutor group I've ever had has been a combination of the bash street kids and battle royale.

Shame you can't lock them out. I used to, and sit at my desk working, but it still felt at times as if I was having my lunch in the midst of a siege.

timelytess Sun 07-Feb-16 17:09:27

Make your room impersonal, lock your things away (preferably in an office) and leave the room at the start of break and lunch, returning as late as possible.

ArmchairTraveller Sun 07-Feb-16 17:12:27

I'd do that.
But before I did, I'd put up with another fortnight of it and take photos as evidence to back up my decisions. Not of children, just the damage and mess.
That way, when challenged as to why it's not a lovely, educational environment, I'd have proof as to the pointlessness of it.

MrsGuyOfGisbo Sun 07-Feb-16 19:40:49

Also, one of the ways I establish supremacy grin over the class is to wait in the doorway so they can only enter when I have checked their shirts are tucked in, earphones out/whatever the school rules say for that specific school...
So them being there ahead of me would establish it as their territory - not conducive to the right kind of dynamic...

MaureenMLove Sun 07-Feb-16 19:54:40

So, it's school policy not to keep them out of the room, but it's perfectly OK for them to be in there unsupervised, whilst your getting your lunch?

What an odd policy! So, when do you get your time out? What happens if you have a full day?

Soooosie Sun 07-Feb-16 19:58:45

I would lock the door but first bullet point what's happening.

MatchsticksForMyEyes Mon 08-Feb-16 20:00:23

Had a full day today. Spent lunch (a cuppa soup) in there with them, marking.

MaureenMLove Mon 08-Feb-16 20:29:25

So you haven't had a break all day then? I know you're not entitled to non contact every day, but not even to get your lunch in peace? Again, I know this rarely happens in the real world of teaching. There's always someone or something to have to deal with, but this is enforced contact.

There's another thread going about a teacher who walked out of a yr 10 class in tears, because they were so vile. This has the potential to tip you over the edge too.sad

Again, another reason why teaching staff need a break every 6 or so weeks!

MazzleDazzle Mon 08-Feb-16 20:35:34

What a disgrace! I can't believe that this is the school's policy. Thank goodness they don't have this at my school.

Could you try using a really yukky Glad plug in and playing unappealing music (loudly!)?

MatchsticksForMyEyes Mon 08-Feb-16 20:47:00

No,mon and wed I go right through aoart from a brief morning break when I get chance to make a hot drink.

MrsGuyOfGisbo Tue 09-Feb-16 09:26:29

unappealing music
Good idea! French/Indian zither/Philip Glass.....

lozengeoflove Sat 13-Feb-16 20:56:23

Feck the school policy! Lock the door and go to the staff room for a cuppa and your lunch.
This keeping your room unlocked at all times is awful, because effectively you are always on duty.

There is no way I'd be doing that.

Foxsox Mon 15-Feb-16 19:07:38

So you are being MADE to work your lunch?
Go to your Union rep this is not on (I'm not usually militant but in this case I feel it!)
The kids aren't allowed inside alone so it's a demand from SLT that you are there, surely?

If they say they are allowed inside at lunch ask what their stance is on you leaving to go to the loo in a lesson (not allowed!)
What is your HOY doing at lunch?
she/he needs to be In There and making waves. That's what they are paid to do, manage behaviour! (Alongside other stuff I know!!)
I'd go spare if this was happening in my year team! (I'm a HOY!)

Tbh it wouldn't have got this far they would be out already! They don't need to be inside at lunch!

If you get no help lock your room & go offsite!

Angeladelight Mon 15-Feb-16 19:15:24

I'm fairly certain my school had open form rooms on breaks as well BUT it was a privilege and we were temporarily banned if people were playing up and being disruptive. Could this not be suggested as a sort of deterrent for this behaviour?

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