Dfes number and GTC numbers

[Amythesianwaterfall]

Dear mumsnetters,

I am applying for jobs and am slightly stumped! What is the difference between these two numbers? I have my GTC number on my purple card and so that is fine but where might I find my DfES number? Does it mean for the school?
Many thanks:)

[HedgeHogGroup]

DfE number relates to the school.

[Amythesianwaterfall]

Thank you:)

[cardibach]

I have a DFES number which is the number I for when I qualified. I am old, so not sure if they give this to teachers now. Could it be an either/or situation? Or put whichever you have?

[PartyConfused]

Pretty sure they are the same thing. Think DFES was the 'old name' for it.

[storynanny]

The dfes number is not the same as the school dfe number. The dfes number was issued when you started training and would look like this eg 75/4567
The first 2 digits are the year in which you commenced your teacher training hence mine starts 75/
Dont know if it still is the case though.

[Goblinchild]

It's on my payslip, and on my P60s and P45s.
It's the personal number that you have for the rest of your teaching career, linking with your tax and pension.
Mine is 7 digits, with the first two being the year I qualified. /*

[Goblinchild]

Oh, I'm reeeealy old too, so perhaps it has ceased to exist for newcomers. But how do they track you from job to job if that's the case?

[storynanny]

Ive just fished out my ancient 1975 document and it is the same number as last gtc document

[storynanny]

It was called teacher ref number on the gtc letters but def same number as the one from back in the old days

[Goblinchild]

There had to be someone that read the gtc bumf

[storynanny]

Not me! It is just stuffed in the file marked "school employment stuff" knew it would come in useful one day!