Employing A Teacher as a Nanny

[Lemitta123]

We are interested in employing a teacher with Primary experience to help us with our 3 children before and after school and full time during the school holidays (as a nanny/tutor). Please can I ask if there are any agencies/websites where teachers would typically look for such posts?
I have looked at Gumtree and childcare.co.uk but I am getting nannies with no prior teaching experience.
Thank you in advance for any help...

[MothratheMighty]

There's an 'alternative jobs to teaching' section in the TES.

[GoodnessIsThatTheTime]

I a teacher and not sure I'd know if any teachers who would apply for a part time childcare position to be honest.

[GoodnessIsThatTheTime]

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[NancyJones]

You'll probably find very few qualified teachers who are willing to work in a p/t childcare position. Unless you are offering comparable or better pay and conditions that he/she would get in school then it may be tricky to get what you want.
Is it a term time only position you are looking for or would you want the nanny to work Sch hols too? Oh just saw f/t during school holidays. Gosh, you really would need to be offering an excellent package to get that.

Your other problem is that a young, single teacher will be looking for f/t work and money and someone more established with a family of their own will be keen to keep the benefit of school holidays.

[MidnightDreary]

I doubt many teachers will have the correct childcare qualifications. Childcare is very different to teaching. Somebody who has been a teacher doesn't need the salary in the same way many nannies do; I really doubt you are going to find anyone.
These are the (almost impossible) requirements you're looking for:

Working hours: From 7:00-9:00 am (my guess) and 3:25-8:30 pm.

All weekend and all holidays

Qualifications: Teacher and nanny

Job: Looking after 3 primary age children for the hours specified above. Must also be able to tutor those 3 children at the same time.

Try posting the above on any website, perhaps Mary Poppins will apply.

[MidnightDreary]

Or maybe Nanny McPhee - I hear she's very good.

[GoodnessIsThatTheTime]

A teacher on 30 grand plus holidays and no early or late starts is going to need a better package than that to consider leaving to take up a nanny role.


If they're in school what do you need a tutor to do?

I agree someone with a family is often looking for term time only work. And someone single would want a better package.

[BonaDea]

Op, are you suggesting the teacher does this job as well as teaching?? When would they ever have any time off??

[jonnyappleseed]

We once hired a final year student at the local teacher training college for after school care and holiday care. On paper it seemed like an excellent idea, but the reality was harsh.
Won't go into detail here, but we are much better off with an experienced nanny.

[Philoslothy]

Add message | Report | Message poster GoodnessIsThatTheTime Tue 18-Feb-14 14:32:01
A teacher on 30 grand plus holidays and no early or late starts is going to need a better package than that to consider leaving to take up a nanny role.

I start work at 7am, after my first working slot is over I start again at 9pm. I work far fewer hours than most teachers on MN but do have early and late starts - every day.

[rollonthesummer]

Teachers generally work full time in teaching, or hate teaching and go and look for a full time role outside of teaching.

If they are part time, it is because they have a family and want to look after them. Looking after your children during those hours would necessitate getting childcare themselves for their own children before school, after school and and throughout every holiday. They would be better off getting a job in the 'real' world.

Unless you are paying £40k+ (and not pro rata), I don't think you'll get anyone good for this role. Would you do it if you had children at home?

What were you thinking of paying? Presumably they won't be teaching as well!

Good luck, I think you will need it.

[Philoslothy]

We have an ex teacher as a nanny/home help.

She was a primary teacher who had also done some early years work. We do pay her very well through and she does not work the school holidays .

[GoodnessIsThatTheTime]

Philo - I didn't get to school before 8 (many teachers didn't due partly to childcare needs) and I used to work at home in the evenings but was free to leave school from 4ish.

I agree teaching is silly hours during term time. But I can't see a teacher leaving teaching to do a worse job was my point.

Having said that I'm considering going back to something different, just not worked out what!

[GoodnessIsThatTheTime]

Ah cross post again. Obviously some would!

As a main scale teacher I couldn't afford a nanny, never mind pay the equivalent of my wage pre tax!

[rollonthesummer]

If Liz Truss gets her way, OP will get a teacher doing all these things free!

stupididea

[WhoWasThatMaskedWoman]

I think you'd be better off looking for less academically qualified childcare wrapping around school hours (perhaps au pair/child minder) and separately looking for a young child-free teacher to look after the DC during the holidays.

I imagine it should be possible to find a young teacher with chunky student debts (or who wants to build up the deposit for a flat) who is prepared to trade off their holiday in return for a relatively low stress job with decent pay. I just don't think you'll be able to find someone who can also do the termtime wrap around.

The DCs old nanny went on to be a TA, and she comes back to mind them in the holidays.

[rollonthesummer]

I imagine it should be possible to find a young teacher with chunky student debts (or who wants to build up the deposit for a flat) who is prepared to trade off their holiday in return for a relatively low stress job with decent pay

Yes, possibly. Every holiday though?

[HarrietVaneAgain]

You might get an older early retired teacher with a grown up family interested. Our nanny is this and it works really well, she has lots of experience and patience. We found her through word of mouth. You may have to be more flexible about hours and things tho. I had to change my days at work so the hours would work but I'm glad I did!

[WhoWasThatMaskedWoman]

Well presumably the OP has holiday of her own that she'd want to spend with her DC - so the prospective employee would get a basic (say) 4 weeks holiday. It's not ideal, but I can imagine that it's a bargain some people would be happy to strike.

[TheScience]

I know a few younger teachers (and nurses) on salaries in the lower £20ks that swapped to nannying - set hours (8am-6pm generally), no work to take home, less stress and £30k+ salaries in London. Obviously the pay-off is the shorter holidays.

I'm not sure how much the OP's part time hours would appeal though. You'd be better off looking at nanny agencies to recruit someone with specific skills rather than advertising on gumtree though.

[LoopyDoopyDoo]

I doubt many teachers will be looking on gumtree for jobs.

[LoopyDoopyDoo]

And when would they do their school work? I just can't see this happening unless you find an ex- or retired teacher.

[vestandknickers]

Why would you want a teacher and not a qualified childminder? Your children need some chill out time before and after school - not tutoring.

[Philoslothy]

We hired an ex teacher because of who she was not because we wanted an ex teacher. She also had early years experience.

[rollonthesummer]

You would never get someone who was working as a teacher at the time (how could they let their class out and pick upor children up simultaneously (let alone attend any meetings!).

It's also v different to pay someone 8-6 but I presume you won't be, OP? That's a lot of trapped time.