Kate Cambridge live birth thread

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MortifiedAdams Mon 08-Jul-13 12:00:53

"Ooh twinges....could this be it?"

I wish. Think I must be a closet royalist as I am rathrr excited about this impending birth. Anyone want to keep watch with me?

Ooh exciting!

Me! What have you heard?

Is the royal uterus contracting?
<puts away stalker hat and genuinely wishes her well>

MortifiedAdams Mon 08-Jul-13 12:04:25

So far bot all!

Helicopter on permanent standby at their Anglesy home....
All parking banned outside the hospital....
And Zara Phillips announced her pregnancy today which I think was to ensure it wasnt totally overlooked.

MortifiedAdams Mon 08-Jul-13 12:05:30

We need someone who lives near to be our eyes on the street!

<Stealth give me that stalker hat>

morethanpotatoprints Mon 08-Jul-13 12:08:14

OMG, you'd be a bit pissed off if you were at hospital and couldn't park because the Royal was there. Why do they need all the parking spaces. i don't dislike them and agree with a Monarchy, but all the who ha doesn't help to in the quest of making them acceptable in the eyes of the non Royalists.

MortifiedAdams Mon 08-Jul-13 12:11:53

I think it is more to stop randomers / press / stalkers from.parkibg there. Think the other patients can still pull up / pick up / drop off there.

I hope they are still looking after yhe other patients as well as usual.

Trills Mon 08-Jul-13 12:13:26

Zara Phillips announced her pregnancy today which I think was to ensure it wasnt totally overlooked.

Or they announced it because today was the right day for them, and her cousin's wife having a baby was totally irrelevant. I don't believe that people make a big deal out of "stealing thunder" when it comes to these things.

yamsareyammy Mon 08-Jul-13 12:17:34

Hope the air conditioning doesnt pack up.

Im not sure what relation theyll be (second cousins?) But willl be nice to have a little playmate.
Anyway, I hear she has attached the tens machine and called wills a naughty word.

Disclaimer: much of what I write on this thread will be pure ffiction

MortifiedAdams Mon 08-Jul-13 12:21:26

grin "You did this to me you smug bastard!"

Would love to hear what shite she comes out with under the influence of G&A

312 seconds since her last contraction. She has demanded a bacon butty.

Likesshinythings Mon 08-Jul-13 12:22:31

I wondered if the announcement of Zara's pregnancy had been timed to cause a distraction while Kate is in labour.

YoniMatopoeia Mon 08-Jul-13 12:22:31

<<watches thread>>

MortifiedAdams Mon 08-Jul-13 12:23:53

Good thinking Likes we need people like you on this thread.

Apparently the old ladies who.knit baby hats for the hospital have been tasked with knitting one that looks like a crown.

Ok she has now had ENOUGH of various family members calling to see how shes doing and has directed them all to this thread.

Oooooooh owwwwwww another

I really should do some work

MortifiedAdams Mon 08-Jul-13 12:25:18


MortifiedAdams Mon 08-Jul-13 12:25:56

Harry has been sent out to purchase whiskey and cigars.

Yes, children of cousins are second cousins to each other smile

Ooh, go Kate !

Girl or boy ?

morethanpotatoprints Mon 08-Jul-13 12:29:03


Just announced that she is surprise live chat to M net later today. grin We will of course be the first to know. Even before the board outside Buck Palace.

Girl, victoria. Vic for short. Icky when shes a baby.
Shes regretting letting him go for cigars now, he should have known she'd need his support. Plus she's worried he'll bump inti his dad or grandma and then they'll all be round expecting cups of tea and saying "oooh should it be this bad? Do you think you have a low pain threshold?" With a concerned look on their faces

Erm morethan no one wi fall for that again!

ParadiseChick Mon 08-Jul-13 12:31:08

Ah Zara's pregnant! That's lovely, I like her.

smile @ Icky baby - I had one of those !
She's lovely now though thanks

MirandaWest Mon 08-Jul-13 12:33:42

When's Zara's baby due?

According to DD Kate's baby will be called Alexandra. This is mostly because a Rainbow Magic Fairy book has been written called Alexandra the Royal Baby Fairy (or something like that) hmm

MortifiedAdams Mon 08-Jul-13 12:34:42

I think Alexandra is odds on favourite so your dd may be on to something!

morethanpotatoprints Mon 08-Jul-13 12:35:33

oops. stealth
I always post something thats been done before grin

She was supposedly coming on the day before her wedding. It kicked off!

saffronwblue Mon 08-Jul-13 12:37:24

She'll be furious that people will be talking about her baby on facebook before she can post herself.

Contraction s seem to have stopped. She is bouncing on her birth ball and eating some pineapple

MortifiedAdams Mon 08-Jul-13 12:41:17

Wonder if she has been briefed on not 'making a rod for her own back' - cant have the future queen still cosleeping at 25 or using a dummy at 30.

MortifiedAdams Mon 08-Jul-13 12:41:57

Maybe a lityle royal bonk would help, or a long walk around the palace.

Jenny70 Mon 08-Jul-13 12:45:51

Maybe a curry? or cod liver oil?

ouryve Mon 08-Jul-13 12:45:59

She's demanded takeaway curry for lunch. And passed her FIL a STFU look before he can even think of saying or doing something mortifying.

Oh no. Phone. Mother again. No she doesnt KNOW or CARE whether you should try to rearrange tennis in the morning.

Oh Kate the latent phase of labour can take a long time. I advise you rest and eat and try to do normal activities until labour becomes established (no public walkabouts though). Give us a call when you've been contracting at least once every five minutes for a minute. And keep those bloody obstetricians at arms length, we'll have a lovely normal birth <student midwife so biased> smile

DonkeysDontRideBicycles Mon 08-Jul-13 12:54:55

Must have been watching the tennis that brought on contractions smile I was gripped with tension concentrating on breathing and I'm not even pregnant.

MortifiedAdams Mon 08-Jul-13 12:56:25

Dont forget the paper knickers and the maternity pads!

saffronwblue Mon 08-Jul-13 12:56:30

Are we up to "I don't care if she is the fucking Queen tell her it fucking hurts"?

I am worryingly excited about this as well blush

<settles in to wait for news>

TeamEdward Mon 08-Jul-13 13:01:02

grin @ saffron

TwllBach Mon 08-Jul-13 13:01:17



<royal cough>

I can confirm that I live on Anglesey... I have no clue where they live and DP has bumped in to her in Tesco, so we are obvs totes close.

MortifiedAdams Mon 08-Jul-13 13:03:58

Right Twll get your act together. I want to.know as soon as tha chopper takes off.

Damnautocorrect Mon 08-Jul-13 13:04:46

I should think given how expensive it is to give birth there I'm sure they'll still give you a parking space. Although I know some of the sheikh's often book out the whole floors when their wives are due and pay for it to be redecorated.

TwllBach Mon 08-Jul-13 13:05:08

I shall sack off work and sit outside, staring at the sky. I may take an ice cream with me. Do you think I have time to paint a 'Good Luck Bestie <thumbs up>' sign??

MortifiedAdams Mon 08-Jul-13 13:06:06

Definetly. Or just walk around playing "Ahhh Push It" loudly on a ghetto blaster.

Actually thw queen has cast her mind back 6 or 7 decades and remembered what it's like. She has kicked them all out and will be off herslef once she's scrubbed the bath, made a load of sandwiches and picked the corgii poo off the grass. Oh and she'll wait till williams back of course

One suspects he has popped into the local for a pint

WhatWillSantaBring Mon 08-Jul-13 13:13:59

I believe that Mr Cameron has requested she start pushing asap in order to send the country into a Lions/Murray/Froome/Baby overload of excitement.

Add the wall to wall sunshine (apologies to those of you in NW Scotland) and you have the recipe for an economic recovery. 12% growth by the end of the year.

FairyJen Mon 08-Jul-13 13:16:55

<< sneaks in with a cuppa>>

I don't envy her in this heat!

So what's the verdict? Too posh to push and bf or ff?

lurcherlover Mon 08-Jul-13 13:20:12

Surely royal babies drink gold top (sorry)

MortifiedAdams Mon 08-Jul-13 13:22:15

I dont envy her in the family she is in. I fely enough pressure with DD and I only had friends and family to contend with.

Think she will try and push. I do hope though that if she chooses a cs or ends up with an emcs, the press dont run her into the ground because of it. Any woman delivering a baby, no matter how, is amazing

lurcherlover Mon 08-Jul-13 13:37:44

The press have reported she wants a natural birth apparently - although with two obstetricians in attendance I suspect it might all get a bit medicalised quite quickly. Plus, the knowledge that the entire world is waiting for news must make it hard to get into the right mental zone for labour...I don't envy her at all. When she leaves hospital she will have had her hair and make-up done and be smiling at the papps, but you just know she'll be knackered, sore and desperate to get home into her PJs.

Theselittlelightsofmine Mon 08-Jul-13 13:40:09

It's got to be a girl

RoseFlowerFairy Mon 08-Jul-13 13:49:04

Ahh that will be nice at the Royal get togethers, that Zara will have a baby of a similar age.

It's all gone quiet. Her maj has a glass up to the door, pooey trowel in the other hand.

Things may be starting up again

MortifiedAdams Mon 08-Jul-13 16:42:21

«sticks head into thread whilst at work» no sign?

RoseFlowerFairy Thu 11-Jul-13 17:16:50

No, no sign yet! I have a feeling about 12!

MortifiedAdams Thu 11-Jul-13 19:21:34

Apparently there was a bit of a skirmish a couple of days back when a helicopter was dispatched from Kensington Palace (I think!)

DonkeysDontRideBicycles Thu 11-Jul-13 19:23:16

How about Jubilee as a name? (ducks for cover).

gaggiagirl Thu 11-Jul-13 19:33:00

Howaaaaaay Kate!!!!!!!!!

noblegiraffe Thu 11-Jul-13 19:33:21

Hang on, Kate has been spotted in Tescos?

Did she have a Clubcard? She could save up for cheap Legoland tickets, it's handy for Windsor Castle.

TheHandbagOfGlory Thu 11-Jul-13 19:43:23

I thought if the baby is a girl she might be called Alexandra, but there is already a Princess Alexandra who was apparently friendly with another royals husband, so they might have vetoed that?

Snazzyenjoyingsummer Thu 11-Jul-13 23:54:29

<watches thread as no other news right now>

Snazzyenjoyingsummer Thu 11-Jul-13 23:55:04

I mean no other 'has it started?' news. Plenty of, well, other news.

mummyplonk Fri 12-Jul-13 00:04:43

Kate if you are reading do not try an Asda madras curry to hurry your little princess along, admittedly it did work but 8 years later am still mortified at the smell and mess in the delivery room. Not befitting of our future queen.

HoneyDragon Fri 12-Jul-13 00:06:55

<<gets comfy>>

Tomorrow at 12:05pm just in case you were wondering.

PareyMortas Fri 12-Jul-13 00:09:17

I've passed them on the beach at Anglesy a few times, they live very close to dfriends.

TwllBach Fri 12-Jul-13 07:39:59

<waves at Parey>

Dach chi'n siarad cymraeg? grin

I just cried laughing at your wise words, mummyplonk grin

They should have told us the baby was due at the end of July to stop all this speculation. Poor Kate, I was pissed off enough with my mum ringing every day to see how I was, without the whole country doing it...

TheFallenNinja Fri 12-Jul-13 08:11:55

Who's Kate's Bounty rep?

Wouldn't want to forget the child benefitsmile

WhatWillSantaBring Fri 12-Jul-13 09:23:20

Just think, there are at least two non-royals who'll know the gender... the sonographer and the consultant who would surely have been there too. I should imagine she had an extra scan at 35 weeks too. Wonder if the staff got reminded of their obligations to remain silent. I should imagine the red tops offering a LOT of money for that info. (I know someone who was offered £35k for a photo of Harry at Sandhurst, so I reckon you're talking six figures).

I do feel for her, having the world watching and waiting so much, but then she knew this was pretty much her number one job. And when she's got this one and a spare safely into the world, I reckon she can build a much quieter life for herself, if she wants.

You never know, she might feel fine for the going home shots. I felt splendid - DC1 slept for 4 hours and 6 hours on the first night in hospital, so I got home, fed her, then put my glad rags on and went to a birthday party grin. So if I can do it without any help (no stylist to do my hair for me grin) I'm sure she can manage.

Where is she going to be birthing anyhow?

PrincessKitKat Fri 12-Jul-13 09:49:57

Love this thread... Any news?!
My money is on the child being called 'Burton' as according to the interweb Kate may have got upduffed following her visit here. They are all for bringing the royals into the 21C so what better way than following this terrible sleb trend?!
Very exciting as Burton is just up the road from me, although is a grey & depressing place full of breweries and a smelly Marmite factory.

Mockingcurl Fri 12-Jul-13 13:09:31

You must live near to me Princesskitkat

heirraising Fri 12-Jul-13 16:53:10

I've got inside connections to The Lindo Wing and think it's happening right now ... www.bit.ly/12puLku

Dillydollydaydream Fri 12-Jul-13 16:57:08

Ooh exciting hope it all goes smoothly and baby Alex arrives safely.

heirraising Fri 12-Jul-13 18:05:43


RoseFlowerFairy Fri 12-Jul-13 18:08:59


So does anyone know if it is actually soon? I can't keep up my current level of excitement for too long you know.

mazylou Fri 12-Jul-13 19:38:08

Pineapple cock ring for Wills, STAT. Poor woman, I hope she has the birth she wants.

Snazzyenjoyingsummer Fri 12-Jul-13 20:00:27

She's not actually in labour yet, then? <disappointed>

Derbylicious Fri 12-Jul-13 20:28:28

Another one for the tax payer to support!!!

Derbylicious Fri 12-Jul-13 20:49:35

I've nothing against them and wish them all the best, I can't get excited about the royals when so many families are living in poverty so this numbs my enthusiasm.

DeepRedBetty Fri 12-Jul-13 21:21:48

Let's do the discussions about the wrongs and rights of the Class System, Hereditary Monarchy etc etc on another thread and leave this one to be about Harry going for whisky and cigars and the joy of having a MIL who is obsessed with horseracing and corgis.

Best wishes to all mothers-to-be everywhere.

WildThongsHeartString Fri 12-Jul-13 21:25:16

^ what deep red Betty said^

I've always wanted to say that grin

TheHandbagOfGlory Fri 12-Jul-13 21:26:20

I wonder how it feels to be one of the other ladies giving birth there just now? I assume they haven't shut down the entire maternity wing, so I wonder if the other ladies who have paid lots to give birth there feel a bit pushed out, as it were?

My gran had the same Dr as the queen when she was pregnant with Princess Anne (not for the birth though).

She has no amusing stories about it and she generally had amusing stories about most things.

imademarion Fri 12-Jul-13 21:30:24

A Damehood to DeepRedBetty <regal nod>

So is she is labour yet? How lovely would it be to have Harry's happy grin round the door afterwards?

I really love the way the three of them pal about together.

MortifiedAdams Fri 12-Jul-13 21:34:58

I wonder how different the names are to the ones she might have wanted to use sans royalty?

Pretty high pressure naming a human anyways!

Chubfuddler Fri 12-Jul-13 21:37:41

It's going to be a boy called George.

DeepRedBetty Fri 12-Jul-13 21:39:44

<takes faintly gobsmacked bow>

Might go and see if DameDeepRedBetty is available in the My Registration area...

I can't decide if I want it to be a baby girl called Victoria or not. DD1 is Victoria and I can't decide whether it would be cool or annoying.

I do think it's weird I'm worrying about it!

<curtsies to Dame Betty>

BigW Fri 12-Jul-13 21:58:40

When is she due? I heard that they always give a date to the press that is a week or so later than the actual due date, but all I have seen is that it's sometime in July.

ihatethecold Fri 12-Jul-13 22:04:11

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

DameDeepRedBetty Fri 12-Jul-13 22:05:38

Ooooo it worked!


Snazzyenjoyingsummer Fri 12-Jul-13 22:07:22

I think the due date is any day now. I have seen 12, 13 and 14 July mentioned. So if they've used that tactic BigW then she is overdue now.

Derbylicious Fri 12-Jul-13 22:16:23

Ooops yes good luck to all mums-to-be all around the country supported by over stretched NHS midwives working around the clock, espec to those who get turned away because the maternity wards are full.

Is Kate having an NHS birth?
Back to Harry and cigars...

BigW Fri 12-Jul-13 22:19:17

Hmmm, by my calculations the baby was born two weeks ago.

<<scratches head>>

<<returns to drawing board>>

Oooh ihate what does your DH do?


WildThongsHeartString Fri 12-Jul-13 22:27:19

[ignores derby]

Curtsies gracefully to the red dame!

I think it's going to be in the next week or so, I remember Diana bringing William home, she was so happy.
By coincidence my DS is 15 tomorrow, where does the time go, honestly seems like yesterday.
<weeps into wine>

TheHandbagOfGlory Fri 12-Jul-13 22:53:10

I know Wild my DS is 6 today (I actually had him at 23.01!) and I can still remember feeling the weight of him for the first time <sob>

Derbylicious Fri 12-Jul-13 22:53:26

I think Pippa is editing this site. Wondered what her day job was!

Back to Netmums for me, it is a great site.

I'll leave you pondering these big issues!!

DameDeepRedBetty Fri 12-Jul-13 22:54:26

I've been on *EllieArroway's* thread a lot tonight as well. The Lord giveth and the Lord taketh away.

DameDeepRedBetty Fri 12-Jul-13 22:56:13

Derby what planet do you come from? Not sure I want to visit it so do let me know.

BigW Fri 12-Jul-13 23:04:11

<<returns from drawing board>>

I can confirm, with absolute certainty, that she will be born on Sunday.

That's right, SHE!

Derbylicious Fri 12-Jul-13 23:12:25

Odd response. She is very lucky in her position, I was turned away when in labour as the hosp was full.. Let us not forget real issues facing many mums to be. Pity this thread is so one sided. You don't do women any favours.

Chubfuddler Fri 12-Jul-13 23:13:20

One sided as opposed to what? What is the "other" side?

My OH will be SO ANNOYED if the royal babe arrives tomorrow. It's his birthday, and he is a complete non-royalist (anti-royalist?)

She will weight 6.4lb, have no hair and be bron about 4.05pm on Sunday.

Derbylicious Fri 12-Jul-13 23:15:15


BORN not bron.

Stupid tiredness.

TheHandbagOfGlory Fri 12-Jul-13 23:16:38

But this is a light hearted thread, there are other threads to be found on here where your comments and debate will be welcomed smile

This one is for fun and idle speculation.

BeaWheesht Fri 12-Jul-13 23:17:21

It is reality that K is pregnant, no?

Chubfuddler Fri 12-Jul-13 23:18:41

Reality? Well I'm afraid whatever is going on in Kensington palace is reality for the duchess of Cambridge, and she will be every bit as frightened and excited as any other first time mother - quite possibly more so considering the weight of expectation upon her. Unless you think being married into royalty is some kind of superpower which insulates you from fear, illness and disaster?

Poor girl. I wouldn't be her for a kings ransom.

Derbylicious Fri 12-Jul-13 23:21:38

Oh ok, I'll let you get on with it then.

DameDeepRedBetty Fri 12-Jul-13 23:21:48

Aah, nothing like a bit of idle speculation...

Will the Royal OB be shouting 'Push Madam, PUSH?'

As (I am told) the RAC man said to my DM when she broke down on her way to an appointment at The Royal Free when rather obviously expecting me back in 1964?

imademarion Fri 12-Jul-13 23:27:31

When I gave birth, I was arrayed fetchingly on a pile of ermine, with the Dragoon Guards playing 'I vow to theey country' very softly.

Someone, I think it was Princess Anne, fed me tiny silver spoonfuls of His Graceful Duchyness' Iced Lemon Posset.

Harry was in charge of the drugs.

My baby slithered out after a couple of delicate coughs.

It was very beautiful and I have the highlights in an Asprey album.

TheHandbagOfGlory Fri 12-Jul-13 23:27:45

Will they have to call her Your Royal Highness and ma'am even when she's pushing?

Chubfuddler Fri 12-Jul-13 23:28:25

I really doubt it.

DameDeepRedBetty Fri 12-Jul-13 23:35:48

Iced lemon posset.... mmmm

Personally, I got a round of hot buttered toast about half an hour after the Big Oosh. Which I promptly honked straight back up again. And the second one too that the darling MWs lord bless them and keep them brought. Thank god for the nuts and raisins that my DM had stuffed into my Middle Of The Night Emergency Bag, they were a minor miracle at 3 a.m.

Sorry, not sounding frightfully posh for a Lady of the Bedchamber am I?

ZingWidge Fri 12-Jul-13 23:37:21

we got married on the 29th of April ( a while ago)

they got married on the 29th of April

one of our children was born on the 13th July, another on the 27th July

I would love it if Royal Baby was born on either days!smile

ihatethecold Sat 13-Jul-13 06:58:04

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

shutitweirdo Sat 13-Jul-13 07:10:21

If it's a girl they should just call her Queenie and be done with it. Queen Queenie the first.

Jojobump1986 Sat 13-Jul-13 08:38:17

I reckon they're going to copy Katie & Peter & go with "Princess <insert random string of letters>" on her birth certificate. She'll get called Princess for a significant proportion of her life anyway, might as well make it her actual name!

I do feel a bit sorry for the baby if he's a boy... Everyone's so excited by the prospect of a girl since the law's changed that I suspect they'd feel a bit deflated if it was a boy. The only way that law will be needed is if they have a girl first & go on to have boys later. If they have several boys, including this one, I suspect there might be a few who will forever be thinking "if only #1 were a girl".

I'm excited either way but I'll cry if they use either of my DS's names, especially DS2 who's only 5 weeks so people will look at the year they were born & assume we'd copied them! hmm It's a relatively uncommon Biblical name though so I doubt they're likely to use it! grin

sad at William being described as pompous. I shall ignore it & continue in my fantasy that's he's just a genuinely lovely chap who'd make a fab brother-in-law! wink

Dillydollydaydream Sat 13-Jul-13 08:58:03

That's pretty cool. Maybe today's the day then?

I reckon she's given birth on the last week and they won't make the public announcement until Kate is back into her skinny jeans for the pics.

miemohrs Sat 13-Jul-13 08:59:56

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

waikikamookau Sat 13-Jul-13 09:05:09

14th july is bastille day?
so perhaps they will chose a French name..

KateMiddletonsMum Sat 13-Jul-13 09:37:17

I will keep you all updated. We are just nipping to Tesco for some doughnuts, feeling a tad peckish.

Dillydollydaydream Sat 13-Jul-13 10:36:56

Excellent. If your dds waters break there you might get free nappies too?

FCEK Sat 13-Jul-13 11:35:57

My parents know Charles and Anne well and they are very nice. We haven't met the boys though but I like the Duchess' style.

We're lower middle class at best LOL

wish the baby would hurry up, just so I can see if my name guesses were right!

ZingWidge Sat 13-Jul-13 12:42:40

I hope it's a boy actually!

anyone knows which day is baby due actually?

KateMiddletonsMum Sat 13-Jul-13 19:15:32

I'm sure it won't be tooooo long. Doughnuts ran out, onto bounty now.....is that a swear word on here? smile

FrankellyMyDearIDontGiveADamn Sat 13-Jul-13 19:27:48

According to this week's Horse & Hound Magazine, Zara's pregnancy was announced this week because the British Eventing team for next month's European Championships was due to be announced the same day and everyone would have been asking why Zara had been left out.

Anyone else think the Palace have deliberately released a wrong due date to throw the press off the trail? I wonder if she was actually due a week or two ago, but has now gone overdue <speculates wildly>

ZingWidge Sat 13-Jul-13 21:17:39

but frankelly what was the EDD that is published?
I don't watch the news.

FrankellyMyDearIDontGiveADamn Sat 13-Jul-13 23:53:07

15th July

FCEK Mon 15-Jul-13 19:31:07

Wish the royal baby would hurry up. Dying of curiosity re: the name!

MortifiedAdams Mon 15-Jul-13 19:38:07

I am certain it is a girl , based on wholly unfounded gut instinct.

Zynda Mon 15-Jul-13 19:44:20

Think the baby will be heavy for a first baby. The distance between kate's hip and knee would be more than average.

tribunalhelpneeded Mon 15-Jul-13 19:45:52

Ok bored now. Can someone throw some clary sage in her direction please smile

You can tell the approximate weight of a baby by thigh length? That explains a lot! shock

Ponders Mon 15-Jul-13 19:47:43

published EDD was 13th

DM speculated weeks ago that they'd given out a date 2 weeks after her actual due date.


Ponders Mon 15-Jul-13 19:49:16

The distance between my hip & knee is massively more than average & my overdue DC1 weighed under 6lbs so I don't think we can go by that grin

Zynda Mon 15-Jul-13 19:49:17

Wasn't she said to be about 9 weeks pregnant when the news came out. and that was about 3 weeks before Christmas day I think! so, hang on....... {I can do this}

My dd was born on their wedding day. Charles and Diana got married on my birthday and my mum was born on the queen's anniversary.
My anniversary is in 2 days time. Will their baby be born then???

Zynda Mon 15-Jul-13 19:57:21

I have done the maths, insofar as is possible because I only think she was 9 weeks when it leaked out first week of December, but if so, that'd make the EDD of 13/7 correct. So it could be another ten days til the baby arrives. Yall will burst!

Glup Mon 15-Jul-13 20:07:31

.......my mum (never the most reliable, I fear) has reported unusual activity at the royal Berkshire hospital this evening. This could be it!

(Hmmm, though surely if she gave birth at the RB it would really annoy the media).

Chubfuddler Mon 15-Jul-13 20:11:03

I think in the normal course of things the royal family would pretend a due date was later than it actually was (they did with prince William) but due to her illness in early pregnancy and the way it leaked the maths suggests her due date is only about today. She is mrs perfect though so it wouldn't surprise me if she actually managed to give birth on her due date. Some people do, but not many.

We'll have a prince or princess by August anyway.

Snazzyenjoyingsummer Mon 15-Jul-13 20:19:35

Glup but could be better for privacy! <excited>

98percentchocolate Mon 15-Jul-13 20:23:51

Glup - getting excited now! What kind of unusual activity do you speak of?


Ponders Mon 15-Jul-13 20:45:44

Well, wishing her, and any other labouring woman, the best of luck

Meglet Mon 15-Jul-13 20:55:07

It's strange to think that this baby will probably be King or Queen when my DC's are pensioners. That's if they have pensions or retirement in 60yrs time hmm.

...or kings and queens for that matter

MortifiedAdams Mon 15-Jul-13 21:11:04

I would love for the baby to be born at the RB. Kate will have so so little say over every aspect of her childs life that a part of me likes to think that she and William had been granted permission to deliver at the RB and use the Lindo as a cover.

Why does the Lindo never get mentioned on threads about where to give birth privately?

I think it will be a girl too (didn't she say something early on that could have given that impression ?) .... though wondering if the fact they haven't got round to changing the laws of succession yet might mean it's a boy.

Ponders Tue 16-Jul-13 12:23:14


someone gave her a massive teddy & she said "I'll take that for my d..."

which was taken by an onlooker to mean "daughter" but looking at the teddy, it more likely was going to be "dog"!


Well, we'll see.

I was up at the Palace the other day and hoping for a notice to be posted up on the gates, but unfortunately I didn't get lucky ...

Any day now I reckon thanks

Ponders Tue 16-Jul-13 12:36:20
Snazzyenjoyingsummer Tue 16-Jul-13 12:59:08

Ponders I also think she meant to say 'dog' and stopped herself in time when she realised they probably wouldn't take it well!

If they have found out the sex - which apparently they haven't - then I think they would be more on their guard than to let it slip out like that.

Just heard the Sky News description of what will happen when Things Get Going:
-she'll go to the Lindo wing and there are several entrances so they still think she might get in unnoticed (hmm. There are a LOT of paps outside)
- Once she's there, Kensington Palace will issue a press release saying that she is there, comfortable (they hope) and in labour
-When the baby is born, the announcement will be put in a sealed envelope (top security, folks!) and be driven round to Buckingham Palace, where a footman will come out and display it on the Historic Easel.

I am enjoying this in very much the way I enjoyed the papal conclave earlier in the year (and I'm not Catholic) - it has so many arcane ritual bits to it! Yet unlike the conclave, it's an experience a lot of people can identify with..

Me too grin

TheHandbagOfGlory Tue 16-Jul-13 13:07:21

Oh I'm loving it all too grin

I saw something the other night when they were saying what Snazzy just posted, but they said the sealed envelope would go to the palace in a taxi. I just thought that was a bit strange, why would they not put it with one of their cars and driver? Seems strange with all the pomp and ceremony of the signing of the document by all the doctors and sealing it up to go to Buckingham Palace and go on the easel but to just phone a taxi? Why not go the whole hog and stick in the golden coach with a liveried footman grin

As I mentioned I was in The Mall the other day and t'was very exciting to see several police cars speeding along with sirens blazing up to The Palace - but sadly seems they were on other business !

Still, p'haps they were practicising ?
Or it was Braxton Hicks !! grin

Snazzyenjoyingsummer Tue 16-Jul-13 13:27:31

Handbag I think the word used on the report I saw was 'courier', which doesn't make it clear whether it's an in-house courier, as it were, or a contracted courier in the common business sense. A liveried footman is surely the least they can do! On a unicorn, preferably grin

WouldBeHarrietVane Tue 16-Jul-13 13:28:30

Can't they take her in secretly in an ambulance?

TheHandbagOfGlory Tue 16-Jul-13 13:31:44

Snazzy a courier sounds better somehow, I had visions of them flagging down a taxi and saying "could you take this to Buckingham Palace please"
A unicorn would be best though grin

They also said that it could take 2 weeks to announce the name confused

PetiteRaleuse Tue 16-Jul-13 13:32:35

They'e going to tell us when she is in labour? Wouldn't it be kinder to us all to just tell us when it's over with? I can't imagining labouring with the whole world on tenterhooks even more than they already are.

The Fail had a headline yesterday saying that someone Camilla said was the biggest indication yet that birth was imminent. Stupid headline of the year award (though in competition with most of their other headlines). Wouldn't the fact that she is 9 months pregnant be the biggest indication?

Not to steal his thunder (no-one reads this site, right wink) - but I heard the Queen has a helicopter on stand-by for Wills so he can fly into London (or wherever) and be with Kate at a moment's notice ?

Given the stylish going away car they departed in after the wedding I can just see him doing something like that ! smile

< This baby is turning me into a right Royalist ! >

Snazzyenjoyingsummer Tue 16-Jul-13 13:53:34

Petite yes, the news channels have been repeating that Camilla's remark is the 'biggest clue yet' that baby will soon be here. Actually, the fact that she is now overdue is the biggest clue that there is probably a week at most now before the baby arrives, you twits! Camilla doesn't need mystical insight to work that out!

Handbag I hadn't thought about that, because all the Royals seem to have names settled in advance. But we didn't name DS for a couple of days and people got really anxious about it - I had a constant barrage of texts asking if we had decided yet, when all we wanted to do was take a day to two to be sure! I imagine that if W&K do the same the Daily Fail et will be in uproar.

TheHandbagOfGlory Tue 16-Jul-13 15:33:06

Snazzy I remember what the Daily Fail was like when Chantelle from Big Brother took a couple of weeks to name her baby, they were mad hmm so I wonder how they will cope.

The programme I saw said Andrew and Fergie took 2 weeks to name their girls each time and I think it was about the same for Diana and Charles. I do remember when they announced the Yorks names, I was quite young and loved Fergie blush and I was so so disappointed with the names they used grin

A bit like when my DD4 was watching the news and they kept saying "the Princess will be appearing soon....." And DD was sooo excited, only to be horribly disappointed when Princess Anne appeared, not princessy enough for Disney loving DD apparently.

Zynda Tue 16-Jul-13 16:17:07

yeh, Princess Anne is a disappointment, I could see that. I laughed so much when I read that a child gave her a bunch of flowers and then she turned round to give them to a bodyguard or lady in waiting and there wasn't one so she had to carry the flowers herself and did a loud sigh in earshot of the young girl who'd just given her the flowers. I'd say 'oy, i'll have those back please"

Zynda Tue 16-Jul-13 16:19:13

chubfuddler I had my dc1 the day before my due date! opened my diary and I wrote in 'have baby'. I saw what I'd written in my diary nine months earlier and laughed at my own naivety, but yet, I "had baby" by the due date.

WildThongsHeartString Tue 16-Jul-13 21:54:34

Still nothing? Come on Kate!

ZingWidge Tue 16-Jul-13 22:07:23

▼▼▼Go▼▼▼Your▼▼▼Royal▼▼▼Highness▼▼▼! ▼▼▼

RoseFlowerFairy Tue 16-Jul-13 23:33:51

I hope for her sake it is the weekend when it is cooler, too hot right now.

ZingWidge Tue 16-Jul-13 23:55:17

well I'm sure she won't be denied ice chips envy

WouldBeHarrietVane Wed 17-Jul-13 00:07:00

Or indeed a bed!

I had my mc care in the Lindo wing and it was very good.

Come on Kate!!

MortifiedAdams Wed 17-Jul-13 00:10:14

Apparently she is into hypnobirthing - I wonder if sjes gone for a water birth?

WouldBeHarrietVane Wed 17-Jul-13 00:11:41

They don't have pools in the Lindo wing, so only if they bring one in for her - I guess they might stretch a point in her case smile

Zynding Wed 17-Jul-13 00:16:24

hypnobirthing? hypnotised not to feel the pain!?

good luck with that.

Snazzyenjoyingsummer Wed 17-Jul-13 00:26:12

I assume if she ends up yelling for an epidural, she won't be fobbed off with tales of how everyone is busy and she'll have to wait either. She needs to channel Miranda Richardson doing 'Who's Queen?' grin

Gunznroses Wed 17-Jul-13 00:40:16

I do have a feeling she'll have a c-section.

1944girl Wed 17-Jul-13 01:11:34

I second that one Gunzanroses. I have that feeling all the time about her having a c-section all the time

LithaR Wed 17-Jul-13 01:35:03

I wonder if they'll let her go two weeks over due like they did me. :/

Hoping she has a happy birth whatever way it happens smile

Gunznroses Wed 17-Jul-13 02:08:04

Im quite excited about it all blush must be the heat! And i know i'll cry when she appears with Wills and babe in arms...silly old fool me grin

WouldBeHarrietVane Wed 17-Jul-13 06:36:16

They are very pro epidural in the Lindo wing

Meglet Wed 17-Jul-13 07:32:37

Did you see the 'waiting for baby cambridge' photo story on the BBC news pages? All those photographers waiting to pounce when they appear on the steps with the baby. I just wanted to get home and back into pj's, imagine the worlds press and their flashbulbs snapping away for a few minutes shock.

Actually, they'll have to do the car seat with everyone watching won't they. In the old days the royals just drove off holding the baby in their arms but I can't imagine them being able to get away with it now, it's illegal anyway. Let's hope royal security have been reading those maxi cosi instructions.

PetiteRaleuse Wed 17-Jul-13 07:44:29

grin at thought of Wills and Kate having a public argument about the car seat 'I just squeezed a future monarch out of my uterus and you couldn't put in the fucking car seat?'

Chubfuddler Wed 17-Jul-13 07:47:15

I bet they won't be scrabbling down the back of the sofa for change for the car park either.

heronsfly Wed 17-Jul-13 07:50:36

I've only just read the whole thread and am sitting here giggling at mortifieds idea of a 'Royal Bonk' to get things going grin

ZingWidge Wed 17-Jul-13 08:04:41

or a Royal BJ grin

Wishfulmakeupping Wed 17-Jul-13 08:12:55

Oh dear hope they do have a name chosen and ready to go I cannot wait 2 weeks <stamps feet>
I need to know dammit!

ZingWidge Wed 17-Jul-13 09:35:48

never mind a baby, I can't wait to see what Harry will do to celebrate that he will propably never have to take on the responsibility of being King?

although I'd love him to be King.
he'd be StreaKing!grin

Zynding Wed 17-Jul-13 11:23:26

some people go 14 days over their dd don't they? so it's possible that baby won't materialise til the 27th of July! ten days is max in some countries, even that would mean we could be waiting til 23rd. I have a feeling, a very strong feeling that it will be born at 2am on the 19th.

ZingWidge Wed 17-Jul-13 11:34:53

yep, DS2 was 14 days over

aldo eldest niece was 16 days over.

I don't wish the misery of being overdue on anyone [experienced], but I secretly hope it's the 27th - DS1's birthday!

Zynding Wed 17-Jul-13 11:44:09

yeh, I can't imagine it, must be torture. I got to 39+5 with dc1 and only got to 37 weeks exactly with dc2 which took me by surprise and wasn't very nice, but it was weird, when he was 5 weeks old there were people in my 'group' who were still waddling around and I'd settled in to a sort of routine.

Chubfuddler Wed 17-Jul-13 11:47:36

My first was eight days late. It was miserable.

ihatethecold Wed 17-Jul-13 11:48:36

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

JumpingJacks Wed 17-Jul-13 11:50:47

ihatethecold - I want more 'behind the scenes' gossip!

ihatethecold Wed 17-Jul-13 12:01:30

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

MortifiedAdams Wed 17-Jul-13 12:01:51

Me too!

I saw some photos of the Queens Yacht and was so so surprised. She and Phillip have their own separate bedrooms.on board and both rooms have single beds, even though the rooms are more than big enough to accomodate at least a double. And they were all doilies and mismatched mahogany furniture.

Im wondering if there are onoy certain rooms decorated grandly in the palaces and other comfy rooms full.of.holey setees and threadbare rugs.

Chubfuddler Wed 17-Jul-13 12:18:01

She can't abdicate if she wants her son to succeed her. She may go into a semi retirement with an official or unofficial regency.

ZingWidge Wed 17-Jul-13 12:22:10


but that is excellent gossip! ( and I actually hate gossip)

keep it up...

ZingWidge Wed 17-Jul-13 12:24:34

mort I snorted @ threadbare rugs!grin

yep, they eat baked beans with cheese on toast in front of the tv watching Shameless and The Inbetweeners!grin

(I fancy cheese on toast now)

ihatethecold - what's the goss on Edward? We "met" him last week at DDs DofE presentation, and he seemed a nice affable chap. Annoyingly it was actually supposed to be the DofE himself (he only does a few presentations now) and he's supposed to be fab at these things as in never know what he might come out with

Ponders Wed 17-Jul-13 12:26:04

when Cameron visited her at Balmoral her sitting room was all doilies & knick-knacks. Very sweet smile

Ponders Wed 17-Jul-13 12:28:04

one's sitting room

can't see the Guardian on the table. how odd...

(oh - maybe she'd been reading it & hastily stowed it under her chair when he landed grin)

VivaLeBeaver Wed 17-Jul-13 12:28:39

I'm fairly sure they have a pool at the Lindo Wing.....I have a friend who works there so will have to ask her but I think I've seen it mentioned on Lindo wing threads here before.

VivaLeBeaver Wed 17-Jul-13 12:30:18
Chubfuddler Wed 17-Jul-13 12:34:47

I love that she has all the monthlies and weeklies, including Majesty in her sitting room. If I was loaded and had the time I would have all the newspapers every day.

DuelingFanjo Wed 17-Jul-13 12:38:26

Wow - Ihatethecold, can you imagine if they found out your DH was passing on gossip! Wouldn't he lose his job?

MissMarplesBloomers Wed 17-Jul-13 12:39:32

Makes me roll my eyes when folks say "Why can't she go on the NHS"

Can ypu imagine the fucking uproar & hoo-ha & lack of privacy for the poor other ladies and families? The paps have been camped outside the Lindo for WEEKS already, it would be chaos and a real security headache too, as most units are adjacent to, if not part of the main hospital.

At least a private wing is just that & easier to isolate for security. I have it on good authority that one floor has been cleared and all clinics cancelled that usually use said floor.

Bet they've got 24/7 security on the switchboard on standby too.

PetiteRaleuse Wed 17-Jul-13 12:41:00

Excellent gossip. I am sad about William becoming pompous though.

TheHandbagOfGlory Wed 17-Jul-13 12:42:20

Ooh her sitting room at Balmoral reminds me of my Granny's when she was in sheltered housing. Loads of stuff and ornaments and magazines all over, bet its stifling hot too.

Jojobump1986 Wed 17-Jul-13 12:42:22

Chub what would happen if she did abdicate then? confused

ZingWidge Wed 17-Jul-13 12:43:37

Dueling not if her DH is Prince Philip! grin

Chubfuddler Wed 17-Jul-13 12:44:42

When Edward Viii abdicated he had to do so on behalf of his children too (although in fact he never had any). So if she wanted to abdicate and had to follow the only precedent available she would have to do the same. Which would mean lord Linley would become king.

Chubfuddler Wed 17-Jul-13 12:45:36

I am v sorry to hear William becoming pompous too. Perhaps it is just a reaction to more responsibility and he will improve.

Ponders Wed 17-Jul-13 12:46:15

those were totally different circs though, Chub - would that precedent really apply?

He was never crowned for one thing.

Chubfuddler Wed 17-Jul-13 12:47:49

No idea but I doubt she'd want to chance it. And there's just no need for her to do it. If she's too knackered she can semi retire and let Charlie handle the day to day stuff.

PetiteRaleuse Wed 17-Jul-13 12:50:31

Very different circumstances. That was to ensure, as the line was changing, that any children he had later on wouldn't have a claim to the throne and cause trouble later. If he had had kids and not abdicated on their behalf as well then there could well have been a constitutional crisis further along.

There would be nothing to stop the Queen from abdicating in favour of Charles now, in fact, that would pretty much be the only way she would be able to abdicate.

ZingWidge Wed 17-Jul-13 12:52:32


when I was almost due with DS5 I thought my waters broke and had to get checked out at the hospital.
but there was fucking Nick Clegg visiting, so there was a hold up!

I wanted to scream! there I was, in need of urgent assistance, worrying about outcome, stressef and feeling ill etc and yet there was this cheerful mood and casual atmosphere. I hated it.
(he ended up chatting to the woman a curtain away about her twins, laughing and all why I was anxiously waiting for results. I wished he didn't)

Chubfuddler Wed 17-Jul-13 12:53:40

Oh I know all that, but (and here I am only repeating what is understood to be the case, not what I know) there is also the fact that the abdication crisis caused her own father untold stress and would it be unthinkable for her. A regency would do the job perfectly well if she really felt unable to continue.

ihatethecold Wed 17-Jul-13 13:15:17

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

MortifiedAdams Wed 17-Jul-13 13:40:47

Whats with the collection.of.rockson the table? Does she actuallylike and inspect rocks, or does she insist that her surfaces are full of stuff and the courtiers had run out of ideas? "Shit, shove a load of.pebbles on to fill the gap!'

ZingWidge Wed 17-Jul-13 14:07:32

oh no, not the pebbles and twiggly shit again!

Jojobump1986 Wed 17-Jul-13 14:51:16

Surely the reason it caused so much strife for her father was because he never really expected to be king. Charles has been being prepared for it his whole life so it wouldn't be such a shock. I'd quite like her to abdicate tbh. I prefer her to Charles but I rather like the thought of her having a retirement & pottering around like the rest of the OAPs! I'd then like Charles to abdicate too & we can skip straight to the soon-to-be new parents! Perhaps not while they're adjusting to parenthood though!

KittenofDoom Wed 17-Jul-13 16:13:30

It would be much nicer if they retired and abdicated like the Dutch monarchs do. There's no reason why The Queen couldn't do it, they would just issue Letters Patent or whatever it is they do when they want to change the rules. Such a shame that the Edward VIII business left such a scar that she feels she has to stay in the job till she dies.

DuelingFanjo Wed 17-Jul-13 16:33:09

your husband is a policeman protecting the royal family and he's telling you where William is and that Katherine is not in Labour yet?

or did I get the wrong end of the stick?

1944girl Wed 17-Jul-13 18:44:02

Both of my two DC were late.First was 23 days overdue and second was 10 days overdue.He was due to be born on my birthday but decided he did not want to share his happy birthdays with me

Snazzyenjoyingsummer Wed 17-Jul-13 21:41:50

Hasn't she said she will never abdicate? She believes it is a job for life and so on.

I wouldn't think that Edward VIII would be the template for this - as Ponders said, the situation was quite different and there was real concern that he or one of his immediate family (wife/kids) would be used as pawns by Germany or another hostile power in the future. The best equivalent now would be the European monarchs and there have been two (or more?) abdications recently in favour of their known heirs by elderly monarchs. I kind of wish the Queen would consider it for her own sake. She's had her diamond jubilee now which is a great landmark.

BTW, for anyone who is interested in the Edward stuff and likes a comic novel, Laurie Graham's Gone With The Windsors is a brilliant send-up of the whole abdication crisis (yes, really). She is a great writer.

KittenofDoom Wed 17-Jul-13 22:12:34

I'm thinking of having a flutter on the baby name, and was tempted by Albert at 50/1. "Prince Albert" might be a bit dodgy these days though, would you think? wink

Well I'm wondering if the Queen was dropping a hint today - she said she hopes baby arrives soon so she can start her holiday - could this mean Kate is in labour ? Anyone else betting on a baby by morning ?!

All the best to you Kate however things are going ... my two were 10 and 8 days late respectively ... but I was quite happy to wait really ... but must be a bit hot ATM with this weather flowers

Ponders Wed 17-Jul-13 22:37:20

nope, I think the Queen just means she hopes the baby comes soon so she can go on holiday!

It's Balmoral in the summer, isn't it - it's a long way to have to travel back for cooing purposes grin

I don't know ... but I may have got a bit carried away since seeing the new issue of the Radio Times in the Co-op this evening - "Happy Birthday !" it says ?! confused

Alibabaandthe40nappies Wed 17-Jul-13 22:51:07

Duelling I don't think you have the wrong end of the stick.

ihate that is pretty horrid gossip. I cannot believe you are so naive as to post it on here - if it was got wind of in the wrong places they could identify you in a heartbeat and your DH would lose his job. Is it really worth it to feel important on an MN thread? If I were you I would ask for those posts to be deleted asap.

Zynding Wed 17-Jul-13 22:53:39

I read it the way you did Ponders. She's hoping that this birth shenanigans won't interfere with the main play. Her holiday :-p

I don't think the queen will abdicate for a while yet - Queen Victoria did 63 years and 7 months and I think she'll want to beat that now!!!

ZingWidge Wed 17-Jul-13 23:23:32

perhaps she is going for a Guinness record MrsPoirot

or maybe she's just happy as she is. you know, alive and all!grin

MortifiedAdams Wed 17-Jul-13 23:31:42

Maybe she knows Wills will.make a better king than Charles and is hoping to.outlive her son wink

ZingWidge Wed 17-Jul-13 23:49:28


you keep making me snort out loud!grin

MortifiedAdams Wed 17-Jul-13 23:50:59

grin haha I am glad to hear it!

Its all this royal excitement in the air - making me all giddy!

KittenofDoom Thu 18-Jul-13 00:00:56

Hoping to outlive her son? What a horrible thing to say.

MortifiedAdams Thu 18-Jul-13 00:03:18

Lighten up kitten it was meant to be a joke. Clearly.

ZingWidge Thu 18-Jul-13 00:16:34

now you're in trouble Mort

and maybe me too for snorting....
oh well, at least we can cheer each other up if arrested....wink

NomDeClavier Thu 18-Jul-13 00:21:37

Apparently the Queen will wait for the babe to be brought to her. Don't fancy a journey up to Balmoral in this heat so I think everyone's hoping he or she arrives soon. From the parking restrictions I calculated the 19th as a likely due date....

KittenofDoom Thu 18-Jul-13 00:28:07

Not funny. Clearly.

ZingWidge Thu 18-Jul-13 00:35:28


but what if she does think that? how would you know either way?

they are Monarchs after all, they will never think like the average/normal person does!
and strangest things have happened before in Royal households all over the world.

so for those reasons I found Mort's joke funny. I laughed ergo it was funny.

ZingWidge Thu 18-Jul-13 00:41:37

and to save time I'll summarise it

- no it wasn't funny
- yes it was, it made me snort
- no it wasn't
- well I'm still smiling
- but it wasn't funny
- yes it was
- no it wasn't
- it was too
- nope
- yes
- no

( ad infinitum)

MortifiedAdams Thu 18-Jul-13 06:14:19

grin Zing

I will cut to the chase. It wasnt intended to offend. OT was intended to be a little bit funny. Clearly we have differebt senses of humour. I apologise if it has offended you.

SterlingCooperDraperPryce Thu 18-Jul-13 07:00:51

has anyone seen the live "baby monitor" the sun have on their website? It's fascinating *

*disclaimer: it is in no way fascinating unless you like looking at a closed door.

Zynding Thu 18-Jul-13 08:08:04

I agree about the 19th. I know two babies due on the 13th of the month and arrived on the 19th! And both first babies too.

So tomorrow morning I pick up my phone and the 'flip' thing I normally ignore will have some real news for me as I open my eyes to turn off my alarm. Oh I love the modern World. Will that guy still bother with the placard ?

We're on holidaying Turkey and this thread is the first thing I check when I find a wifi connectiongrin

Much faster & easier than logging on to Sky News or the BBC website!

I will immediately know something has happened as soon as I see that Replies have jumped by 300+ since the last time I looked wink

The power of Mumsnet....

OliviaP Thu 18-Jul-13 12:07:30

My DH just emailed me this latest update on the royal birth. Nothing's happened! smile eveningharold.com/2013/07/18/exclusive-royal-baby-update-nothings-happened/#more-7001

Snazzyenjoyingsummer Thu 18-Jul-13 12:42:14

Hearts I'd thought the same, it will be much quicker to look here than scan news media! Hope you're enjoying your holiday. I can say that without rancour since it's 27 degrees here and the sun is blazing down.

Zynding they must do the placard. It's Tradition. Maybe even Historical Tradition. wink

Sterling you've made me think of the repeated shots of the Sistine chapel chimney, doing nothing at all, during the papal conclave. Someone set up the chimney's Twitter account from which it tweeted about being annoyed that pigeons were standing on it grin Has no-one yet set up a Twitter feed for the Lindo wing entrance doors or something?

Pootles2010 Thu 18-Jul-13 13:24:29

Do you think she will go to the Lindo? I reckon they've got it all set up so she'll go elsewhere, can't see Wills letting her go in labour in front of those millions of cameras. He hates all that doesn't he?

Yes yes they must do placard! I kind of hope thats the first anyone hears of it.

Alibabaandthe40nappies Thu 18-Jul-13 13:30:29

There must be another way into the hospital, surely? They aren't going to take her in through the front door.

It wouldn't surprise me if she goes somewhere else though, the pressure must be awful.

Pootles2010 Thu 18-Jul-13 13:32:29

know but the paps will all know about that won't they? I bet she goes elsewhere.

Also, whats with the disappearing messages? Did ihate's husband get hauled up in front of her maj?

MortifiedAdams Thu 18-Jul-13 13:33:55

i do think she will go to her local hospital.

MortifiedAdams Thu 18-Jul-13 13:35:11

I think shes asked for them to be pulled. Shame really, I love a bit of insight «open to PMs from ihate »

DuelingFanjo Thu 18-Jul-13 13:41:18

I was due on 13th and DS arrived on 22nd.

Will they stick the placard up in the middle of the night,or will they wait until the morning?

MortifiedAdams Thu 18-Jul-13 13:50:14

I would quite like it if they wait a good few hours before Wills even rings the Queen, "darling, this baby is Public Property; lets just have a few hours the three of us"

NomDeClavier Thu 18-Jul-13 14:24:03

The Lindo is her local hospital! Unless you mean the RB in Reading...

MortifiedAdams Thu 18-Jul-13 14:25:13

I meant the RB as she is currently staying with her folks

Alibabaandthe40nappies Thu 18-Jul-13 14:35:36

She is in Berkshire Nom, not London. Don't blame her in this heat, it must be hell.

I went 2 weeks overdue with DS1 in July 2008, it was hot but not this hot and it was awful.

ZingWidge Thu 18-Jul-13 14:40:31

what if she chose to give birth at home?

Pootles2010 Thu 18-Jul-13 14:59:02

That would be brilliant zing but would she be allowed? All the security risks of rushing her in if something went wrong?

It's what I'd want if I were her tho.

MortifiedAdams Thu 18-Jul-13 15:02:17

Tbf most other royal babies were born at home were they not? I thought Diana startes the craze for Lindo.

I assumed she'd chopper it in. The paps can't see her on the roof.

ZingWidge Thu 18-Jul-13 15:04:58

as long as Harry's there with the drugs she'll be alright! grin

Pootles2010 Thu 18-Jul-13 15:05:36

Ooh maybe wills can fly them in grin

Lilymaid Thu 18-Jul-13 15:07:34

DS1 was born in the RBH - so I think that Kate should count herself lucky if she ended up in such an illustrious place!

ZingWidge Thu 18-Jul-13 15:22:05

yes lily maid she'll rant about that for years to come!grin grin grin grin

just like when DH saw Ryan Giggs on a plane - I bet Giggsy went home all excited telling everyone he's just met MrZing!grin grin

Chubfuddler Thu 18-Jul-13 15:35:32

I'm sure Kate would think it perfectly good enough. She was born there after all.

ihatethecold Thu 18-Jul-13 16:47:24

I pulled the thread, got a bit of stick of a couple of royalists on here and no my DH hasn't been summoned to see her maj!smile

Alibabaandthe40nappies Thu 18-Jul-13 17:22:52

ihate I assume that is aimed at me.

I'm not a royalist - certainly not in the derogatory way that you mean it, my concern for your DH's job was very real. I am seriously astonished that someone who works in a role like that is coming home and telling his wife all the gossip - who is then broadcasting it on the internet.

DuelingFanjo Thu 18-Jul-13 17:26:56

I am not a royalist, I was more worried about the impact it may have on your DH's job to be honest.

ihatethecold Thu 18-Jul-13 17:32:47

Ok thanks.

eatyourveg Thu 18-Jul-13 17:52:35

Not sure if anyone has said this already but it will be an induction tomorrow - mark my word wink

NomDeClavier Thu 18-Jul-13 17:53:29

If she really is at her parents then they can't be serious about the Lindo. That's a good hour even with police escort. So either the due date being put about was wrong OR they never planned to go there.

LEMisdisappointed Thu 18-Jul-13 18:01:45

Why does anyone care? I mean, its nice, but its no our business is it - fuck me, this takes "have you had the baby yet" texts to the nth degree!

MortifiedAdams Thu 18-Jul-13 18:08:51

I.know LEM thats why we put it on Chat for all.and sundry. Oh no, wait «checks which board this is» .... hmm

Meglet Thu 18-Jul-13 18:10:56

nom that was what I was thinking. Even with a police escort I'm not sure I'd fancy doing Berkshire to central london while in labour.

Obviously, I've had many police escorted trips in my life hmm.

LEMisdisappointed Thu 18-Jul-13 18:15:04

Does it matter what board its on then? Do you have to be a member then to post on this one?? My point is equally as valid here

MortifiedAdams Thu 18-Jul-13 18:15:11

Wonder if they will police escort her OB to the RB instead?

MortifiedAdams Thu 18-Jul-13 18:18:40

Well, if you arent interested in her pregnancy/labour, why come on the Royal Family board and onto a thread about her labour?

I have no interest in horses so wouldnt go on THe Tack Room and berate the hobby?

LEMisdisappointed Thu 18-Jul-13 18:20:42

its in active conversations - don't mind me, i'll schlepp on over back to chat with the rest of the plebs

Hulababy Thu 18-Jul-13 18:23:17

Apparently any baby born on the same day as the royal baby will receive a special coin in a pouch.

My little sister is due tomorrow, so you never know. Think I sad before - my sister was born a week after Prince William, so would be fitting for similar.

NomDeClavier Thu 18-Jul-13 18:30:11

There is apparently a contingency plan which I imagine would include both her OBs being escorted there in a rush! They have a green light they can put on their cars but that would do zero good in rush hour out of London or into Reading.

XBenedict Thu 18-Jul-13 18:33:04

I predict Tues 23rd to share with my DS. My brother and I share our birthday with Prince Andrew so our family is already connected! wink

I know snazzy leave it to us to go on holiday to a hot & sunny place right when the UK has the hottest and sunniest summer ever on record grin

Still no news huh, may as well have some more wine!

Hearts I hope you're having a wonderful time. If you'd stayed here the weather would have been miserable.

Wills taking her in a chopper is the equivalent of dh taking me in his company car. grin

KittenofDoom Thu 18-Jul-13 19:33:43

There has never been any official announcement of a date other than "mid-July". Anything else has been made up by the media.

I should think if they needed to get the doctors to her pdq they would use a helicopter. No need to struggle through traffic.

Even us commoners have an Air Ambulance to get us to the RBH or the JR if necessary.

Zynding Thu 18-Jul-13 19:44:22

I believe the 13/7 date because it fits with her being 7 or 8 weeks pregnant in the beginning of dec

KittenofDoom Thu 18-Jul-13 20:08:53

I don't remember if they said how many weeks she was. They don't usually divulge details like that.

Ponders Thu 18-Jul-13 22:18:18

I don't believe they did

but that's usually approx when morning sickness starts so that was the general assumption.

I think...

OhBuggerandArse Thu 18-Jul-13 22:21:42

HAs anyone posted this yet?

I think it is strangely magnetic a totally unwarranted intrusion, but when I was watching it it was being v helpfully hijacked by a spokeswoman from the No More Page Three campaign giving an enormously long speech.

Anyone else in London fancy a free platform for their views? Get down there and get talking!

Snazzyenjoyingsummer Thu 18-Jul-13 22:36:48

I would also bet on the helicopter. How long in a helicopter from Berkshire to the Lindo?

Don't think they ever said how many weeks she was either, but it was less than 12 because there was lots of comment about how it was earlier than they would have announced it by choice. Then the inference was made about the timing because of the extreme morning sickness.

Zynding Thu 18-Jul-13 23:19:02

Anybody hear the chopper? who lives near her parents then?!

Zynding Thu 18-Jul-13 23:20:58

The Queen's comment the other day would indicate that she has at least reached her due date. I think it will be early tomorrow morning, at 5am. In fact, I think she's in early labour now. I can feeeeeeeel it.

Januarymadness Thu 18-Jul-13 23:24:16

I saw 2 chinooks in the air earlier and thought "thats it Wills is on his way to the Mrs"

ZingWidge Thu 18-Jul-13 23:27:17

ohBugger - thanks for that!

I want to go up there and walk past wearing a big hat and pushing a buggy and cooing loudly " oh, you are my lovely little princess, yes you are!" grin grin

marriedinwhiteagain Thu 18-Jul-13 23:39:12

I reckon she's at Balmoral or Windsor and the Bucklerbury and Lindo Wing business is a load of old nonsense. Bet she'll have it quietly and there'll be an announcement posted on the gates and the Royals will for once go "hahaha - gotcha". Hope so.

I hoped it would be born a few days ago and named after me (rl name wouldn't be unreasonable); DH now thinks it will be born in week or so and be called after him. ROFL.

Snazzyenjoyingsummer Fri 19-Jul-13 00:09:59

Has there been any report of her coming back from her parents' house to London? It was said she'd gone there for the weekend, but it may be that she's still there or she's returned to London quietly. I assume she is working her way through box sets, Ben and Jerry's and is not going out again until it's time to get in the ambulance/helicopter smile

If the 12/13 July due dates guess were at all accurate, she is a week overdue now. When do hospitals like to induce, 10 days? (hasn't happened to me)

marriedinwhiteagain Fri 19-Jul-13 00:44:39

Might not even be due yet - due date could be tomorrow or over the weekend. Who knows.

Meglet Fri 19-Jul-13 06:46:13

It's actually quite refreshing to realise that they can keep some things private despite the whole world speculating. No one is even sure where Kate is, let alone her due date. Nothing seems to have sneaked onto twitter.

I don't reckon she's at her parents. You'd go mental cooped up inside a normal house for this long, especially heavily pregnant and in this heat. My money is back in London, kensington palace must have a big private garden to get out in.

SoupDragon Fri 19-Jul-13 06:53:27

I feel really sorry for her! She must be totally pissed off in this heat!

SoupDragon Fri 19-Jul-13 06:53:49

(I feel for anyone heavily pregnant TBH)

katydid02 Fri 19-Jul-13 06:53:57

Good point Meglet. I do hope she gets more privacy than you'd expect.

MortifiedAdams Fri 19-Jul-13 06:54:14

She also has not been photographed for a good few weeks/ a month, so clearly can keep.out of prying eyes

Hulababy Fri 19-Jul-13 06:54:57

Soupdragon - my sister is finding this heat a killer. She's so glad she kept on her gym membership as spends days there with the air con or in the pol, failing that laying on her bed by an open window and with a fan!

waikikamookau Fri 19-Jul-13 06:55:29

hasn't her mother said the baby would be a Leo,
so at least 21st july,

SoupDragon Fri 19-Jul-13 07:03:03

I don't blame your sister, Hula!

I managed to have all three of mine so I was heavily pregnant in winter - built in central heating!

KittenofDoom Fri 19-Jul-13 12:30:57

Meglet "cooped up inside a normal house"?

You speak as if her parents' house is a three-bedroom terraced house in town. West Berks is overflowing with houses with big private gardens!

Ponders Fri 19-Jul-13 13:05:59

They had a big house before

But they recently moved up to a sodding great mansion...I think she'll have enough space grin

Alibabaandthe40nappies Fri 19-Jul-13 13:06:56

I reckon she is planning on having the baby at her parents. Peace and quiet, she is obviously very fit and healthy so no reason not to. Drs and midwives can be there much more easily than she can get into London.

Meglet Fri 19-Jul-13 13:48:33

kitten well, yes. It's not a cramped terrace. But the garden probably isn't huge, or very safe from the paps. The royal residences in london have got better open space I think.

AGnu Fri 19-Jul-13 14:04:17

How many of her potential hiding places have air con? I'd be where the air con was if I was heavily pregnant at the moment!

eatyourveg Fri 19-Jul-13 14:20:55

Seeing as she is pushing out the heir to the throne, they are hardly likely to let her do it anywhere other than somewhere that has all the latest high tech on hand should any intervention be needed. It will be St M's and she'll go in in the dead of night before labour has even started.

Still think its induction today

KittenofDoom Fri 19-Jul-13 14:55:20

Meglet I live a few miles from Bucklebury so I do know what I'm talking about. You clearly don't have a clue. Have you seen any papped photos of the Middletons in their house or garden?

Pootles2010 Fri 19-Jul-13 15:24:11

here is their new house (dm link blush)

Imagine they bought it entirely for privacy's sake.

AGnu Fri 19-Jul-13 15:51:20

Lots of news sources are saying that today is due date, although there are a few threads on MN reporting movement at her parents' house or that a little girl has been born! hmm

I can hear a helicopter right now! It must be them! If you ignore the fact that the local police & ambulance helicopters are stationed just up the road from us & we have them flying over at least a dozen times each day. We're also nowhere near London!

AGnu Fri 19-Jul-13 16:01:05

The Sun's live stream from outside the Lindo is offline - could this mean there's something happening they're not allowed to film?!

I may be getting a little over excited here! blush

waikikamookau Fri 19-Jul-13 16:05:36

the telegraph one is working, never fear,

Zyngaling Fri 19-Jul-13 16:13:51

Only due today They should have told the photographers to calm down a week ago.

AGnu Fri 19-Jul-13 16:14:58

Is it? All I can see are a bunch of windows... They're not showing the front door & there's a weird noise in the background... hmm wink

Zyngaling Fri 19-Jul-13 16:15:17

Agnu! I can hear helicopters as well and I'm in Ireland. So maybe she's having it here grin Now that would have fooled the papparazzi

Zyngaling Fri 19-Jul-13 16:17:38

Wow, her parents' house is gorgeous.

AGnu Fri 19-Jul-13 17:12:40

According to my calculations, based on the rumour that she left her parents' house at 3.05pm & the time that I commented that the camera wasn't pointing at the door... She's arrived via police escort & the royal family have bribed everyone who might have seen her arriving to keep quiet.

I should soooo get a folding chair & lots of water & go sit outside with all the rest of the obsessed public! grin

Zyngaling Fri 19-Jul-13 17:24:28

I put undercoat on a wardrobe, that took about 22 minutes. I washed the brush. I came back here. Still no news!

Zyngaling Fri 19-Jul-13 17:24:51

Will my evening continue like this!? I should have a beer I think.

MortifiedAdams Fri 19-Jul-13 17:32:02

Zing im the same.

Get to work - check the news
Tea break - check the news
Drive home - listen for news
Oit the shower - check the news.

Does anyone have a spare grip for.me?

MortifiedAdams Fri 19-Jul-13 17:32:19

oops zyng

ZingWidge Fri 19-Jul-13 17:36:09

If Mort posts
I snort loads grin grin grin

<waves to Zyng>

MortifiedAdams Fri 19-Jul-13 17:37:49

haja get a snort load of this

Disclaimer - unsure of legitimacy.

Think I'm going to stick with this thread + BBC even if the Zyng/Zing thing is confusing. Far too many "ing" sounds in that strike out! grin

MortifiedAdams Fri 19-Jul-13 17:49:45

ing ing ing ing ing

Put the ding in the bazing and do tha ting ting

ZingWidge Fri 19-Jul-13 18:11:05

its a thing

ZingWidge Fri 19-Jul-13 18:18:46

a new king!
(or queenling)

( all rights reserved. kerching!)

grin ZingWidge. Very good!

Zyngaling Fri 19-Jul-13 18:22:08

Hi, Zing, are you one of the Zings from Carnew wink

On The Graham Norton show, when Tom Cruise was on publicising his film Oblivion, GN said that to him "are you one of the Carnew O'Blivions?". Laughter in audience, at the back somewhere. Tom Cruise - totally blank grin. So excuse me here rehashing an old joke.

Zyngaling Fri 19-Jul-13 18:25:59

I was just thinking, in rl, I'm so over babies {rolls eyes}. Been there, done that, choosing secondary schools at the moment. If one of my real life acquaintances announces a pregnancy now I think 'really, people are still doing that?'. What has got in to me.

MortifiedAdams Fri 19-Jul-13 18:28:29

I am pregnant! Only 6 1/2 weeks but due six weeks or so after Zara!

Zyngaling Fri 19-Jul-13 18:36:55

Congratulations Mortified! omg, really? people are still doing that??? i'm joking! flowers i'm in my early forties now so I am too old for all of that. hey, you can be like Carole, and plan for your foetus to marry HRH the prince(ss) Mary/George of Cambridge!! Better start saving though.

ZingWidge Fri 19-Jul-13 18:39:01

congrats Mort!

grin Zyng we have 6 kids and I'm not over them yet!

I don't know the Carnew connection,
but would love to!

Zyngaling Fri 19-Jul-13 18:43:01

It was Graham cracking a little irish joke to Tom Cruise, if you meet somebody with the same sur name as yourself, you say "are you one of the carnew windsors?". It's funny. Really. No it is. :-| I shouldn't have tried to do Irish humour on a thread about the new hrh!! Nobody here needs the spare grip more than I do!

6 kids? wow. how many of those are boys? will your sur name be the most popular name in the UK soon? wink

Aww, congratulations Mortified grin
I hope you're not going to faff around as much as Kate, we'll have a nice quick live birth thread, thank you very much winkgrin

MortifiedAdams Fri 19-Jul-13 18:48:04

Oh my, 6!! bravo Zing grin 5hisone will be number two, and I'm still relatively young at 28 but I am quite excited at the prosoect of being 46 and getting to leave the kids at home to swan off on all the lovely hokidays they wont want dragging on!

Hahaha at the thought ofBabyMort marrying Royalty!

MortifiedAdams Fri 19-Jul-13 18:49:28

I will need to do a MN workshop withdh so he can be in charge of the live birththread grin

Ijust want hertobe in labour now

ZingWidge Fri 19-Jul-13 18:54:50

totally off topic now - 5 BoyZings and Baby GirlZing

lots of cousins and 2nd cousins too.

It's fab!

(is carnew meaning carnival people/ travellers/gypsies?)

Zyngaling Fri 19-Jul-13 19:01:00

ah! one girl and five boys? what a dynasty! well in four generations your descendents will be meeting up by chance and checking, hang on, are you one of the Bucklebury Widges?

Not gypsies no, just a town in the arse end of Wicklow. I regret cracking that 'joke' now.

I think kate and William will have three children, maybe even four. I think she'll have one next year too. Then a rest, then one more. Then she'll have a now or never baby at 37-39

MortifiedAdams Fri 19-Jul-13 19:02:13

I also think she will have another one next year (cheeky set of twins!)

Zyngaling Fri 19-Jul-13 19:04:51

I think she'll want her children to have the support of other royal siblings. The more there are, the less intense the spotlight on any one. EVEN the first one. Harry has taken spotlight off William. The more children she has the easier it will be for them. I think. It's amazing how I can get inside the mind of HRH grin

ZingWidge Fri 19-Jul-13 19:06:08

no don't regret it - it's not like Kate will post that we are hogging her thread!grin

but I need to know more.
can you PM with more details about Carnew as I don't quite get it yet. but I will. [determined]

ZingWidge Fri 19-Jul-13 19:08:42

Zyng just admit you are indeed the Duchess of Cambridge and tell us what the royal fuck is going on!

ZingWidge Fri 19-Jul-13 19:11:54

and Zyng the plan is that in 4 generations we'll be rulers of thecUnited Zingdom!grin grin

I get it Zyngaling. It is funny! grin

Congratulations Mortified! Do rl people know yet or are we privileged?

Zyngaling Fri 19-Jul-13 19:15:24

oh yeh, Global domination for the Widges. More Widges than Starbucks!

I know I want to believe this cos I've lost the plot with the heat but I bet Kate is reading these threads. She wants to be tuned into the zeitgeist, get with the people, find out if we prefer Vicky or lexie wink

Zyngaling Fri 19-Jul-13 19:17:00

She's far too sensible to ever risk even a tiny post. Sadly.

MortifiedAdams Fri 19-Jul-13 19:25:02

Only my boss and dh know in RL, though Iam on an antenatal thread on here.

Yes, it isa shame that she is sensible!

ZingWidge Fri 19-Jul-13 19:52:05

or maybe she ^WAS^ Pudsey!grin

Ahhhh. Today was DS's due date four years ago. If it comes out today and is a boy called George, I'll eat my hat!

MortifiedAdams Fri 19-Jul-13 20:17:51

rake is your username related to the river tyne?

scubastevie Fri 19-Jul-13 20:40:36

Arriving late to thread but can i join?

LostLion Fri 19-Jul-13 20:43:26

Lord are we still waiting!??

It's meant to be a gardening pun/spoonerism but I was born tyneside as it happens, Mort.

MortifiedAdams Fri 19-Jul-13 20:45:49

Ahh lovely! I'm Gateshead grin dd has just learned the name of it but says "river time" bless her!

MortifiedAdams Fri 19-Jul-13 20:46:21

Welcome scubasteve (another marvellous username!)

MortifiedAdams Fri 19-Jul-13 21:01:23

Right amoff to bed. Make sure to shout really loud to wake me if anything happens!

Sleep well Mortified.
<gets loud speaker ready>

Snazzyenjoyingsummer Fri 19-Jul-13 21:44:28

Congratulations Mortified! Good timing, you can see what Kate and Zara pick name wise and either avoid or emulate depending on your preferences grin

Just about to search on Twitter. #obsessed

Prediction time: I think she will go into the Lindo very late tonight/early hours of the morning, to try and avoid maximum pap coverage, and be induced tomorrow. I have a Feeling that she's now overdue enough for that.

Snazzyenjoyingsummer Fri 19-Jul-13 21:49:42

I was also amused that one of the papers (the Fail I think?) were advertising their Royal Baby magazine supplement the other day. Have they gone ahead with it even though baby is not here yet?

muppetthecow Fri 19-Jul-13 22:13:17

That's it, I've lurked long enough wink Has anybody seen the latest Radio Times cover? There's a big baby in a crown on the front grin

I'm really hoping Kate hurries up - if one more person looks at my bump and says "Ooh, how wonderful if you have your baby on the same day as the royal one" I may actually scream as I bash them in the head with my crutches

How long have you got, muppet?

My mum was pregnant with me when William was born and got really fed up with the 'ooo, Di beat you to it!' comments!

Zyngaling Fri 19-Jul-13 22:27:12

I remember when William was born ! shock

I was only a child though.

waikikamookau Sat 20-Jul-13 09:42:34

my dh went to buckhouse when William was born, grin what a royalist, but I was 17 and couldn't care less.
<<off to watch live feed>>

Ponders Sat 20-Jul-13 11:16:03

I was (just) pregnant with DD1 when Chuck & Di got married. She's 2 months older than William. If only she'd gone to St Andrews...

Hulababy Sat 20-Jul-13 11:58:03

My sister was born a week after William. Her middle name is Dinah after my great grandma. In hospital the nurses and doctors all assumed it was supposed to be Diana because of William's birth.

I'm hoping the royal baby is a girl because
(A) my sister is having a boy so no links with name, etc
(B) for the new law re monarchs

muppetthecow Sat 20-Jul-13 14:48:32

Whispers I've got three weeks until due date, but I'm not holding out any hopes of a timely arrival as DS was 15 days late.

Hula I'm also hoping she has a girl for the same reason! It's another reason to hope it comes first wink

MissMarplesBloomers Sat 20-Jul-13 15:57:18

APPARENTLY ...... folds arms to rest bosoom on ala Les Dawson if you have a child born on the same day as Mr/Ms Wales/Cambridge you will be given a commemorative coin.

<disclaimer- may have made this up this blame the heat> grin

Zyngaling Sat 20-Jul-13 17:01:10

I hope girl too! She's about five days late now, maybe even 7 if the date of 13th July was correct. I think it was. She said 'mid july'. Even if it's 15/7 she's 5 days overdue. What is the average number of days people go over?

marriedinwhiteagain Sat 20-Jul-13 17:09:10

Doesn't mid july stretch from about the 10th to the 20th? Although if I'd been due on the 20th - I'd have said late July. In fact I was due on 20th Jan and told everyone I was due early Feb because me and DH were both wo weeks late. The little so and so arrived on 25th December and all the parents went hysterical and I had to get over myself and admit to the porkie blush.

Poor Katie; once a waity Katie, always a waitie Katie sad. I'm really glad he's got a lovely mum though - that's what Diana didn't have.

marriedinwhiteagain Sat 20-Jul-13 17:10:30

Actually Diana might have had a lovely mum - she just didn't have a functional family unit but Kate has.

Zyngaling Sat 20-Jul-13 17:22:43

Yeh, Diana's mother had no choice but to leave her children when she divorced, because he was an Earl, and the children's titles and the estate all wrapped up with him. Must have been a really tough thing for her to do.

KittenofDoom Sat 20-Jul-13 20:04:28

The date has never been disclosed. Any "due dates" published are just tabloid speculation.

MortifiedAdams Sat 20-Jul-13 20:05:10

Even the reporters are struggling to come up.with stuff now!

They should do some peices on Wills and Kate as babies, and possibly more - Diana, Charles, Harry.

Would make for interesting reading and fill some column inches.

waikikamookau Sat 20-Jul-13 20:09:29

thebaby will come when it wants

unless the obstetricians force the issue, with a C section and/or induction,<< which may well be possible>>

they must be terrified about a safe birth with the third in line to the throne involved

Snazzyenjoyingsummer Sat 20-Jul-13 21:38:18

I saw someone out and about with their Daily Mail 'Royal baby' magazine today, which seems to have done just that and features photos of William, Harry, Zara etc. I guess actually it's probably not a terrible thing since now they can do another one next week month grin

Snazzyenjoyingsummer Sat 20-Jul-13 21:41:32

Anyone know how many Royal caesareans there have been? Did the Queen have one with one of hers and they performed it at the Palace, IIRC?

MissMarplesBloomers Sat 20-Jul-13 21:41:53
Chubfuddler Sat 20-Jul-13 21:46:58

God I am starting to feel sorry for her. There have been enough threads on MN with pregnant posters moaning about their MIL wanting to know when they are in labour. Thre are souvenir magazines and the baby hasn't even been born yet.

I just hope everything turns out all right.

MissMarplesBloomers Sat 20-Jul-13 21:53:50

Me too Chub awful enough when things go wrong for the average Mr & Mrs Wales/Cambridge but to have every minute detail rehashed & examined if the worst happened would be so dreadful.

What the fark is their married name anyway he always has Wales on his flying suit & is known as William Wales for work?

I know her TITLE is Duchess of Cambs but as a totally trivial aside while we're chewing our nails.....trivia experts??

lurcherlover Sat 20-Jul-13 21:55:52

Snazzy I read (in a history book about the Royals so hopefully an accurate source) that the Queen had a forceps delivery with Charles - don't know about any of her other labours. I imagine they were also quite twitchy about that birth, with it being the likely heir to the throne (not definite though as if he'd been a girl they would have known that any younger brothers would have taken over - heir apparent rather than heir absolute and all that).

lurcherlover Sat 20-Jul-13 21:57:53

MissMarples technically none of the Royals have surnames, but they adopt names by convention and can more or less choose what they like. Windsor was chosen as it was thought Saxe-Coburg-Gotha was too Germanic. William and Harry though both use Wales as their Dad is Prince of Wales.

This baby will be known as Prince or Princess X of Cambridge.

GoofyIsACow Sat 20-Jul-13 21:58:35

I think it's Smith Missmarple... will and kate smith... grin

Chubfuddler Sat 20-Jul-13 22:00:36

I think their surname is Wales.

GoofyIsACow Sat 20-Jul-13 22:04:51

I think you are right chub

NomDeClavier Sat 20-Jul-13 22:05:09

He uses Wales, but they could use Cambridge. I imagine they will stick with Wales as he will be PoW and baby will then be Baby Wales but I suspect Harry, when he married/gets a dukedom, will change his surname to whatever he gets.

MissMarplesBloomers Sat 20-Jul-13 22:39:35

Thanks experts all !! grin I remembered the bit about the Germanic name, isn't that why Philip chose Mountbatten?

ooh look......

Snazzyenjoyingsummer Sat 20-Jul-13 22:50:41

Charles, Anne, Andrew and Edward were technically Mountbatten-Windsor. I think it's in my Penguin Royal Wedding (Charles & Di) hardback smile So William could use that but I believe adopted Wales as his 'working' surname for use in the forces. I wonder what he used at St Andrews?

lurcherlover Sat 20-Jul-13 22:52:34

Snazzy he has always used Wales - at Eton and uni he was just "William Wales".

Snazzyenjoyingsummer Sat 20-Jul-13 22:58:14

lurcher ah, thanks - interesting

Alibabaandthe40nappies Sat 20-Jul-13 23:15:38

That's interesting.

So when Wills eventually becomes King, presumably he will pass Wales onto one of his children - with this new law we could have a Princess of Wales in her own right I suppose which would be an excellent way of breaking the link between that name and Diana.

Will he then become Windsor again?

NomDeClavier Sat 20-Jul-13 23:27:31

He would technically be Mountbatten-Windsor but he doesn't need a surname. He doesn't even need a passport.

Someone suggest we could have a female Prince of Wales, which given that the Welsh accepted a Prince ruling them and said nothing about a Princess is logical, and certain titles the Monarch holds are male styles regardless of the Monarch's sex.

It would be interesting....

MissMarplesBloomers Sat 20-Jul-13 23:33:59

Well if its a gel she could do a lot worse than learn from her great- granny!!!

Ponders Sat 20-Jul-13 23:40:16

Mountbatten is the Anglicisation of Battenberg

'Mountbatten is the family name originally adopted by a branch of the Battenberg family during World War I because of rising anti-German sentiment among the British public. On 14 July 1917, Prince Louis of Battenberg assumed the surname Mountbatten (having rejected an alternative translation, "Battenhill") for himself and his descendants and was created Marquess of Milford Haven. The name is an Anglicisation of the German Battenberg, a small town in Hesse. The title of count of Battenberg, later prince of Battenberg, was granted to a morganatic branch of the House of Hesse-Darmstadt in the mid 19th century.
Prince Philip of Greece and Denmark, the consort of now-Queen Elizabeth II, adopted the surname of Mountbatten from his mother's family in 1947, although he is a member of the House of Schleswig-Holstein-Sonderburg-Glücksburg by patrilineal descent.'

hooray for wiki!

Ponders Sat 20-Jul-13 23:42:27

certain titles the Monarch holds are male styles regardless of the Monarch's sex

she is the current Duke of Lancaster I think?

KittenofDoom Sun 21-Jul-13 00:02:57

No one automatically gets to be Prince of Wales, it has to be granted. Charles wasn't PoW when he was born, he was about 10 when he got it, I think. So William doesn't automatically become PoW when his pa becomes King (although he will automatically become Duke of Cornwall). Charles may even not grant it, he may think Wills has enough titles already as he will have 2 dukedoms.

ZingWidge Sun 21-Jul-13 12:08:20

I can imagine the Queen sitting on her suitcases and drumming with her fingers and thinking: "Oh hurry up, will you? One wishes to commence with one's annual vacation!"

I just realized this will be here first great- grand child. is that correct?

MortifiedAdams Sun 21-Jul-13 12:11:51

No - Zaras brother has kids

Pannalash Sun 21-Jul-13 12:12:55

Zing, the Queen already has two Great Grandaughters - the daughters of her Grandson Peter Phillips who is Prince Anne's son.

ZingWidge Sun 21-Jul-13 12:23:52

thanks, I wasn't sure

GherkinsAreAce Sun 21-Jul-13 15:35:21

Nothing happening??

Do you think we'll be able to keep this thread going long enough or will we get bored? Imagine how bored she is now.

MissMarplesBloomers Sun 21-Jul-13 15:43:26

I'm hoping she 's been slipped quietly into the Lindo or RBH & is not-so quietly getting on with it & first we'll know is when the announcement goes up on Buck House gates!!!

marriedinwhiteagain Sun 21-Jul-13 15:43:42

Wouldn't it be great if they announce about tuesday that the royal baby was safely delivered last saturday and mother and baby are doing well. How I would love to see the faces of the camped out press. I don't think she'll have it in the lindo Wing at all and will have the last laugh. And I think it's a boy and that it will be called Philip Edward Michael Charles.

TrinaAbney76 Sun 21-Jul-13 15:45:16

Ohhh..I am anxiously awaiting the birth of the Royal baby!!! Please, hurry Kate!!! flowers

MissMarplesBloomers Sun 21-Jul-13 15:56:34

Married wouldn't it just.....the editors of all these papers & news channels around the world who have paid the journos etc to get there & camp out will be seething!!

Wasn't ti Cherie Blair who managed to slip away & have young Leo & then first we all knew is when they were on the doorstep of No 10?

Not that HRH is anything like that auld witch dear lady. grin

katydid02 Sun 21-Jul-13 15:58:31

married, that would be great smile

NomDeClavier Sun 21-Jul-13 17:00:09

The title Prince of Wales does need to be granted but I can't imagine that it wouldn't be. William has reached his majority and he will be the Heir Apparent. Charles didn't get it until he was 10 because he was still so young when the queen inherited (as was she) and the queen was only ever heiress presumptive.

NonnoMum Sun 21-Jul-13 17:02:06

Bet she is soooooo hot. Poor lady.

Viviennemary Sun 21-Jul-13 17:10:28

I agree that the birth probably won't be in the Lindo wing. Maybe she's even had the baby and it will be announced on Monday. I wouldn't blame them for not giving everyone a minute by minute update.

Januarymadness Sun 21-Jul-13 17:42:08

Noono I thought that. Then I thought...bet they have air con

NonnoMum Sun 21-Jul-13 18:44:08

Kate looks like a sensible, healthy type. Bet it'll be 12 hours from twinge to first cuddle and she won't even swear...

You go girl...

NonnoMum Sun 21-Jul-13 18:46:09

I think they should draft in that lovely Old Skool midwife from the first season of OBEM. She'll shoo away all those old male Gynaes. Who wants your grandma in law's lady doctor around when you can have your DH, your DM and an Old Skool midwife...?

NonnoMum Sun 21-Jul-13 18:47:07

Actually, feel like sending her some fresh pineapple...

MissMarplesBloomers Sun 21-Jul-13 18:55:56

I'd like to think she has a midwife & not just 2 gynae consultants pacing around with Wills outside deciding everything for her!

I think her Mum is quite capable of speaking up for Kate should the need arise grin and I imagine William (or his minder) will be guarding her like a lion agaianst all the Buck house officals!!

I don't think that she will go to the Lindo. No way would William let his wife go past the paps in labour.

I think a home birth chez Middleton, with Carole as birth partner.

Then few days later casually tell the world, after they've had time to have relax together.

Can't imagine that she would feel truly safe at the hospital from the paps.

Snazzyenjoyingsummer Sun 21-Jul-13 20:26:48

It's a nice idea but I very much doubt it as the anxiety about something going wrong will be very high indeed. She might have a home birth for the next baby if this one arrives in a straightforward manner. I think there will be a plan in place to get her into the Lindo without going past the paps. There are probably wartime underground tunnels or something!

Zynzong Sun 21-Jul-13 20:42:53

oh now I want to know about these tunnels. how exciting. there's a tunnel in to The Whitehouse. Why not The Lindo?!

Viviennemary Sun 21-Jul-13 21:06:12

But I'm sure Diana was the first royal to opt for a hospital birth. All other royals weren't born in hospital. Not entirely sure of this. So quite possibly all equipment could be taken to the Middletons.

Yes, pretty sure Diana was the first to birth in hospital. Breaking the tradition of home births for royal babies.

Snazzyenjoyingsummer Sun 21-Jul-13 22:51:23

I've just checked (using Wikipedia wink) and actually St Mary's, ie the Lindo, had been used before Diana's time for the Queen's grandchildren. The Princess Royal, the first of the Queen's kids to give birth, had Peter Phillips there in 1977, and also Zara Phillips, now Tindall.

Princesses Beatrice and Eugenie were both born at the Portland. Viscount Severn and Lady Louise were both born at Frimley Park in Surrey.

The Queen herself had all the children at home: Charles, Andrew and Edward at Buckingham Palace; Anne at Clarence House.

So it's actually Anne who started the use of St Mary's/the Lindo, and of that royal generation being born in hospital.

Viviennemary Sun 21-Jul-13 23:50:05

I checked it too. Sad or what! But I think what I must have read is that William was the first future monarch to be born in a hospital.

marriedinwhiteagain Mon 22-Jul-13 06:39:44

Well thunder's rumbling in SW London with and electric storm pending in the air. This should shift it - I reckon there'll be news in 24-48 hours. Let's hope it's all more sanitary and safe than the weekly birth on the White Queen !! Thank goodness things have moved on a bit.

Thread in chat says she's at the hospital

hurricanewyn Mon 22-Jul-13 06:58:38

I just came on to see if the chat thread is right.
It just says reports on Twitter that she's at the hospital.

worm77daisy Mon 22-Jul-13 07:35:53

It is being reported on Radio 5 she is labour.

MissMarplesBloomers Mon 22-Jul-13 07:37:00

Yep on BBC breaking news!

It's official!

SoupDragon Mon 22-Jul-13 07:37:24

Good luck to her smile

Good luck to her. Fingers crossed it all goes safely. smile

yay! Good luck Kate, hope it's all manageable.
I have just been to tell the children that the princess is having her baby (relates to a conversation I had with 3yo DD about why aren't there any real princesses). DD said "yes". DS said "Muuuuum I'm watching Tom and Jerry"

MissMarplesBloomers Mon 22-Jul-13 07:45:21

Stealth grin

DS has his priorities right eh?

GherkinsAreAce Mon 22-Jul-13 07:53:33

Good luck Kate! Please post on this thread if/when you feel able to.

MortifiedAdams Mon 22-Jul-13 08:10:42

Lovely news! Good luck!

Amy106 Mon 22-Jul-13 08:17:01

Wishing them both all the best. smile

ZingWidge Mon 22-Jul-13 08:19:18

awwww, babytime!

AGnu Mon 22-Jul-13 08:23:39

BBC says she travelled to hospital from the palace... & when precisely did she travel to the palace?! Must've been when there was all that excitement the other day & they sent the guards back to her parents' house to throw us off!

FluffDragon Mon 22-Jul-13 08:34:14

Ooh I bet we will have the new royal girl baby by tonight!

Do you think they will break with tradition and name the baby straight away? I hope so.

Anyone thinking she's already had it and they are now allowing the hype to build to give them some time?

MortifiedAdams Mon 22-Jul-13 08:47:12

Possibly SPB but I think a policeman has only appeared outside the hospital this morning - think he would have had to have been there all along.

this will be a community support officer
The last one will have been in plain clothes and bulletproof vest

MortifiedAdams Mon 22-Jul-13 08:55:40


lurcherlover Mon 22-Jul-13 08:58:58

Good luck Kate! Weird to think she's having the baby right now (unless she's been admitted at the very first contraction, in which case she's probably just a bit bored and mnetting to pass the time grin). I'm really surprised they've told us she's in labour actually - really expected the first we'd hear would be a birth announcement.


MortifiedAdams Mon 22-Jul-13 09:07:20

Maybe they just want to be in control? Releasing statements so that its not the Press leading the way.

Zynzong Mon 22-Jul-13 09:07:21

so all the journalists camped outside the hospital for the last ten days, did any of them get a photo? or weren't they up at 6am!? or is there really a tunnel!

MortifiedAdams Mon 22-Jul-13 09:23:03

The tunnel thing isnt far off - evidently, access can be gained through the basement. I imagine the basement of another buikding is connected in some way.

Zynzong Mon 22-Jul-13 09:33:51

wow, that's an exciting way to start labour! I wonder if the tunnel is regularly used, or if they had to hoover it?!