Nosebleed in elderly cat with hypertention. What happens next?

(30 Posts)
LynetteScavo Sun 08-Dec-13 09:40:01

The poor old thing is already blind due to high bloodpresure. We gave up with medication because we just couldn't get it in to her. (Please, please don't give me a hard time about this - we really tried, and I feel bad enough already!)

She's also deaf, but quite happy, when not confused, and seems to get around by using her sense of smell.

DH thinks she might have bumped into something, but she never runs anymore, so I don't think that's the cause.

I think it's definately they hypertention.

I'm usually a panic and rush to the vet kind of person, but am trying not to freak out if this is the end.

I'm crying so please be kind to me.

LynetteScavo Sun 08-Dec-13 10:09:12

Anyone?

Blood is going everywhere as she keeps sneezing

DH wants to take her to vets.

I don't want to, as I think they can't help.

cozietoesie Sun 08-Dec-13 10:18:44

If she's still sneezing and bleeding, I'd take her to the vet, Lynette. Sorry if this is not what you need at the moment.

LynetteScavo Sun 08-Dec-13 10:20:10

But what will the vet do?

cozietoesie Sun 08-Dec-13 10:22:57

An elderly cat with hypertension and losing blood?

I don't know what they'll do - but it depends what's wrong. And that's something you need to find out. You can't leave the old girl sneezing and bleeding without trying to establish the cause.

cozietoesie Sun 08-Dec-13 10:24:07

Why not give your vet a buzz first and check with them if you're hesitant?

Lonecatwithkitten Sun 08-Dec-13 11:41:42

Cats do get nose bleeds from uncontrolled hypertension, usually BP is over 220. There is no specific treatment for nose bleed beyond basic keeping head still and cold compress. Getting the meds into your cat at this point is essential as at this level of blood pressure they are at very high risk for a brain bled.
Things to try tablet in primula, tablet in prawn, tablet in cheesy wotsit, tablet in piece of sausage.

Lonecatwithkitten Sun 08-Dec-13 11:41:42

Cats do get nose bleeds from uncontrolled hypertension, usually BP is over 220. There is no specific treatment for nose bleed beyond basic keeping head still and cold compress. Getting the meds into your cat at this point is essential as at this level of blood pressure they are at very high risk for a brain bled.
Things to try tablet in primula, tablet in prawn, tablet in cheesy wotsit, tablet in piece of sausage.

cozietoesie Sun 08-Dec-13 11:53:38

Thanks Lone.

LynetteScavo Sun 08-Dec-13 12:19:16

The bleeding has stopped and she's sleeping.

Will try again with the tablets. She has perfected the art of eating the tastey morsel it's hiden in, and spitting out the actual tablet though.

Are there any other tricks, or ways to get the medication into her?

cozietoesie Sun 08-Dec-13 12:21:39

Try Lone's tips first. She's had some success with them - and I'm a busted flush as far as pills are concerned. My elderly boy can sense one at 20 paces and flat refuses.

Glad the old girl's bleeding has stopped.

poisonedbypen Sun 08-Dec-13 12:48:40

We use a tablet giver followed by a treat. Could she have grass up the back of her nose?

Lonecatwithkitten Sun 08-Dec-13 13:18:55

Primula is the best for this kind of cat as it sticks to the tablet making it impossible to eat the morsel and not the tablet.

LynetteScavo Sun 08-Dec-13 14:34:20

Lonecatwithkitten my cat just licks the Primula off the tablet, leaving the tablet!

cozietoesie Sun 08-Dec-13 17:52:40

Sounds as determined as my boy - although with a different technique.

How is she doing?

We used to buy cheapo meat paste for our old boy who was on tonnes of meds. It worked a charm smile

cozietoesie Sun 08-Dec-13 18:15:55

Seniorboy's vet has long given up on pills. If it can't be injected or put in his food, he doesn't get it - although, luckily, he's not really needed any pills to date.

LynetteScavo Sun 08-Dec-13 18:31:28

She slept all day, but woke up just now, and took tablet disguised in pate. smile

No more nose bleeding. smile

The thing is I don't think of her as old, I think of her as just a baby, partly because she was 8 weeks old when we got her (I actually think she was less) and because she is so tiny, and unagressive. If I'd wanted a mouser I would have been disappointed.

Have told 8yo DD that cat is very old, and won't live for ever (cue DD crying) DD loves to lug poor cat around, and being blind and deaf, cat has been going along with it. DD has now been banned from anyting but stroking cat.

We have 2 cats (brother and sister). I don't even lparticularlyike this cat, but obviously I love her very much - as does DH. We've both had a good cry today. sad

We've been through some crap in the past few years during which we've kept a stiff upper lip, and then the cat gets a nose bleed and we're in pieces! grin

cozietoesie Sun 08-Dec-13 18:41:00

Oh well done for getting a tablet down her - by whatever subterfuge!

How old is she?

LynetteScavo Sun 08-Dec-13 18:48:57

She's 16.

cozietoesie Sun 08-Dec-13 18:50:44

That's not too bad - although complicated by her physical issues.

cozietoesie Sun 08-Dec-13 18:52:43

PS - Seniorboy is 18 nearly 19, although turning out to be of surprisingly robust stock and only really suffering from some arthritis.

LynetteScavo Sun 08-Dec-13 19:02:59

Her brother, who is the same age, is fighting fit, and people are shocked when we mention his age.

Although he's given up bringing up squirrels and wood pidgeons as gifts these days (thank heavens!)

cozietoesie Sun 08-Dec-13 19:05:35

Caught one wood pidgeon, caught the lot, eh? That's how getting on can take you.

smile

Well done OP smile

My darling boy lived for 19.5 years, but he was always my baby.

timtam23 Sun 08-Dec-13 22:03:47

OP I really feel for you, I have a 17 year old cat who also has hypertension and is blind, so far he is pottering around ok but I'm sure there will be some kind of crisis at some point and it is so upsetting to think about

My old boy is dreadful with tablets usually but the vet said I could crush the BP ones (amlodipine) so I grind them up and mix with a little bit of some tempting food (usually posh fishy cat food) he can't taste the tablet at all & polishes the whole lot off

I'm glad the bleeding's stopped now, will you be asking the vet's advice in case it happens again?

LynetteScavo Sun 08-Dec-13 22:26:17

Will aslo try crushing the tablets - hadn't thought of that.

Cat will have to have a check up in a few weeks to get more tablets, and of course I will mention bleeding even though it's now stopped. DH was going to take her in the morning, but now I don't think that's necessary.

I'm trying to keep the vets visits to a minimum, as they always hint the end is near.

TamzinGrey Sun 08-Dec-13 22:39:49

I can get tablets into my 17 year old without fail by the following method:

Break about an inch off a treat stick https://www.whiskas.co.uk/our-products-snacks-and-treats-whiskas-sticks. Make a hole through the middle (I use a small skewer) and stick the tablet inside. Mould the edges around and sort of roll it into a ball so that there's no sight (or smell) of the medicine.

My girl will usually take this happily in one gulp.

LynetteScavo Mon 09-Dec-13 17:11:23

I will try that, TamzinGrey smile

TamzinGrey Tue 10-Dec-13 00:23:03

Hope it works Lynette - I know how upsetting it is when they refuse to take their medicine.

I've heard that these are very good www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B001FSJCPK They come in different flavours. Expensive, but you might want to give them a try if all else fails.

Good luck.

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