My tortie is a real COW! :-D

(67 Posts)
GetStuffezd Fri 20-Sep-13 19:04:33

She has been sitting at the window for about two hours, pining for ginger boy to come home. (He's got a new mate in one of the feral farm cats!) Every time I tried to pick her up for a cuddle and fuss she gave me the feline equivalent of F off and resumed her position.

Scabbers the Ginger strolls in for his dinner and she's straight on my lap and biffing my face, pummelling, etc. It was a proper "we've been having SUCH a nice time without YOU!" I do love them!! grin

TheAccidentalExhibitionist Fri 20-Sep-13 19:06:52

My tortie is a little like this too. I love her but she's distainful unless she wants something grin

GetStuffezd Fri 20-Sep-13 19:11:39

Totally!! Is yours a good hunter as well? I've never known a cat like her - and get this - when she realised I was going to throw out her offerings of dead shrews, she started hiding them under things like the TV unit and bookcase! I swear she knew I'd struggle to find them and get them out. grin

TheAccidentalExhibitionist Sat 21-Sep-13 03:21:40

My naughty tortie likes to torture lizards. She will bring them into the house and play and play with them until they die. She goes through phases of hunting though. She likes the spring when there are lots of vulnerable young around sad
She currently curled up in my bed, with her ginger tom brother. Basically they have the run of the house. They know that they will get whatever they want from us, we are pathetic in our attempts to please them! The dogs however are kept firmly in their place.

Fluffycloudland77 Sat 21-Sep-13 10:11:17

She is definitely miffed with him isn't she? I take it she isn't friends with the farm cats?

NorbertDentressangle Sat 21-Sep-13 10:17:16

ours used to sneak into my neighbours house and piss on her pile of clean washing that was waiting to be ironed.

she also would appear from nowhere when you were on the stairs and hurtle past you or run between your legs in an attempt to bump us off.

Fluffycloudland77 Sat 21-Sep-13 10:19:46

Norbert, if our cat try's to trip me up dh shouts "no, at the TOP of the stairs like we agreed".

angry

GetStuffezd Sat 21-Sep-13 10:20:26

accidental I am pathetic too. I made the ginger boy a hot water bottle and wrapped it up and put it in his bed blush
fluffy she really is! She is not friends with the farm cats - not sure why. She's always been the more confident of the two, but when I'm home seems to longer around the house a lot more, while the ginger goes off around the farm.
Norbert I shouldn't laugh because I'd be gutted if a cat pissed in my laundry....haha! And YES, going down the stairs can be a dangerous experience!

Lovethesea Sat 21-Sep-13 19:37:58

Mine goes from purring like a machine while sitting on my lap blissfully to hissing, swiping and stalking off when I apparantly stroke the wrong bit of her back!

Currently she is hiding in a wardrobe but she often follows me round the house, she tolerates our tabby who is the hunter and puts him firmly in his place if he tries too much play fighting.

I am having to give her antibiotics and steroids for a skin complaint and I can't believe I have my fingers still.

It's not that her hiss is worse than her bite, I have the scars, but I seem to be trusted a little more now despite the tablets.

We got her from a rescue so not sure what she might have been through before us, but from what I read that is torties anyway!!

wigglybeezer Sat 21-Sep-13 19:59:15

Mine walked past me yesterday, rubbed her head affectionately on my foot and then bit my big toe, she regularly bites people who stroke her " wrong", I have to warn children about her ( she is also a major hunter ).

bishboschone Sat 21-Sep-13 20:03:12

I have an absolutely beautiful tortie bit she is so aloof .. She is my daughters cat and does her job well but she is sooo unfriendly . My tabby boys are sooo lovely . I love her but she just doesn't love me back . hmm

AthelstaneTheUnready Sat 21-Sep-13 20:08:10

Mine stuck her foot into the bath this evening, hooked her claws into my big toe, and bit it. Then let go and purred at me, did the hunch-back-quiver-tail self-satisfied boogie, and buggered off. Way to ruin the relaxation hmm.

bishboschone Sat 21-Sep-13 21:53:13

Why are torties like this ? I had no idea until we took her for jabs and microchip . Very commented on naught torties ..hmmm

JerseySpud Sat 21-Sep-13 22:06:54

my SIL has a tortie and shes the best hunter ever!

itsnothingoriginal Sat 21-Sep-13 22:13:24

Oh.. am reading this with a certain amount of trepidation as tortie kitten is about to start going outside...

If the way she attacks our feet is anything to go by, not much will survive once she's out hunting shock

On the other hand she's really affectionate when she's not ripping our hands to shreds grin

JerseySpud Sat 21-Sep-13 22:14:44

Now on the flip side i have a big black boy cat (nicknamed fat boy) and he has to be the softest cat ever!!

i remembered a black cat i had as a kid being soft as butter and my exsils black cat was softie too. All were boys.

GetStuffezd Sat 21-Sep-13 22:37:59

hunch-back-quiver-tail self-satisfied boogie
Aaaaaaaahahahahahahaha!!! Is this exclusive to torties or just all cats?? Cos I know exactly what you mean!!!!

FeltyPants Sat 21-Sep-13 22:44:01

Haughty Torties!!! I had a massive one but god she hated me! Utter disdain. I'd sit next to her, go to stroke her and she'd get up, give me a withering look and promptly leave the room. Apparently they are known for bonding to one person and when ex husband left she would barely come in the house and wouldn't let me touch her!! Eventually I packed her off to him and now......she follows him everywhere, sleeps on his pillow, PLAYS WITH HIM!!! Traitor traitor traitor!! I've never had one before or since but she was something else!

Lovethesea Sat 21-Sep-13 22:46:26

See my tortie has caught one mouse ever. And didn't eat it. But the tabby boy brings me rabbits, moles, mice, shrews, birds, pigeons etc. Every day.

GetStuffezd Sat 21-Sep-13 22:48:03

Hilarious felty! I secretly hope that if I should die, my tortie would be a complete wanker to everyone else.... Sadly I don't think she would :-)

GetStuffezd Sat 21-Sep-13 22:49:40

Moles?! Oh shit! I would be all flappy handed! I hate the vile shrews, they are bites bastards. Feel sorry for the voles and birds though so release them... Moles though!

SummerRain Sat 21-Sep-13 22:52:07

my black female will kiss me and be adorably cuddly.... when she's hungry. try and cuddle her when she's not hungry and she's liable to claw my face off.

I feel so loved hmmgrin

wigglybeezer Sat 21-Sep-13 23:17:08

When we got our tortie as a wee fluffy kitten , she missed her mum and cried all night until I lay on the hall floor ( we were introducing her gradually to our other cat) and let her sleep curled up on my hair! I am still her favourite but that doesn't stop her biting me!

bishboschone Sun 22-Sep-13 06:51:33

Interesting about bonding to one person . We have had our tabby boys for 14 years and we got our dd a tortie kitten after much deliberation 3 years ago. We wanted her to know she was dd cat so put her bed etc in her room and tried not to fuss her too much so they did bond .. I guess it worked but I'm sad she doesn't really like us ..

TheAccidentalExhibitionist Sun 22-Sep-13 08:11:46

Our tortie adores my husband. She waits in my DSs room for bedtime story telling than climbs on his chest for half an hour of blissful staring at DH, purring and rubbing. Avoids DS like the plague though!

itsnothingoriginal Sun 22-Sep-13 09:50:43

My tortie only ever sits on my lap much as the kids desperately try to encourage her to sit on theirs! My husband says it's because I'm lazy and she knows once she gets curled up and comfy she won't have to move for a while hmm

GetStuffezd Sun 22-Sep-13 10:04:10

Haha nothongoriginal
Mine got cross with me after I got up the other night to get a drink...so I came back to her sprawled out in my warm spot on sofa! Pic on profile. Little sod.

MrsSchadenfreude Sun 22-Sep-13 10:13:45

I officially have the World's Most Beautiful Tortie - she is grey and pink (yes, really!). Her permanent expression is "outraged", she doesn't like being stroked, will tolerate being picked up and cuddled for a while, and she pisses on any dirty laundry left on the bathroom floor, or craps on the front door mat if she is feeling particularly displeased about something. We moved house recently and she stood on the bed next to DH and miaowed at him all night long on the first night!

GetStuffezd Sun 22-Sep-13 10:24:54

Had to google to see what you meant, and ohhhhh, so pretty!! Also, the one on google has a very "outraged" expression too!

Mogz Sun 22-Sep-13 10:27:41

I've had two torties, the last one only for a couple of months as she was a very old (19y11m) rescue riddled with lumps and bumps, but she was the most beautiful natured cat ever. She would beg to be picked up, pop her paws on your shoulders and pull herself in really tight so her snotty little nose dribbled all over your neck and then purr like it was going out of fashion. She was also very pretty, our vet described her as blue and apricot coloured. I often wonder what she was like as a youngster, I'm sure she had a lot of mischief and naughtiness in her past.
My first tortie was a BOY! Yep, born as an only kitten in the back of a wardrobe he was our special needs kitty. He had fits when very young which left him with some messy wiring, his back legs took a lot longer to respond than his front legs, that didn't stop him running and chasing and biting like a good 'un though. He only lived a few years but was naughty to the extremes of his abilities, we were really blessed to know him as he was extra special and a rarity.

EstoyAqui Sun 22-Sep-13 10:37:56

Our Tortie loves hunting too. For 90 solid days this year she left me a gift either by the back door or on the hall mat. Three whoe months of either pigeon, thrush or magpie carcusses. <bleurgh> She is currently in the garden eating any daddy long-legs that dares to move. I watched her eat no less than 12 the other day before I got bored.

GetStuffezd Sun 22-Sep-13 10:39:56

Ooh is anyone else finding desiccated spiders around the house at the moment? Tis is something I won't be bollocking the cats for! I actually feel quite sorry for the spiders though - hyping themselves up to make a dash to a wardrobe when up looms the slavering face of Millie!!
God I need to get off MN and do something productive!!

bishboschone Sun 22-Sep-13 12:05:43

I've just remembered we had a reuse tortie when we were kids who had the most amazing personality . She followed my horse home
From a ride once as a kitten and we didn't know where she lived so brought her home while we tried to find her owners .. We never did and she just stayed.. Sadly she got run over about a year later which is why I had forgotten her but she really was a character and fitted in really well with our lives ( big country house with lots of animals and kids) so was never any bother .. We also have another waif and stray who should be very grateful for a home as he came in similar circumstances but is really stroppy and grumpy .. I guess it's just pot luck with personalities .

LeGavrOrf Sun 22-Sep-13 18:45:40

What is it about tortoiseshell cats which makes them have this distinct personality?

Mine is similar to lots on here

She is disdainful and gives the most expressive dirty looks. When she is in a really bad mood she puffs herself up like an owl.

She hates the other cats. The other three all cuddle up together and she is nowhere near them. And then goes and jumps on them and hisses.

She swipes at your feet and bites if she is not happy.

Is the biggest hunter of the family, brings in something every single day. Mice, water voles, small birds, bats, a crow

She is a pig and is always there at the front of the queue at dinner time and eats the most despite being the smallest cat (she is not much bigger than a kitten)

Only likes me. She is very affectionate with me, comes and sits on me and pads her paws for ages (whilst dribbling and purring). Comes in to bed with me and snuggles next to me. She won't go anywhere near another human and will not be touched by them without scampering off.

Eats everything. She likes crisps, chips, cakes, everything.

I love her to pieces, and she is so beautiful (pic on profile).

LeGavrOrf Sun 22-Sep-13 18:48:19

I have 2 big black boy cats as well, and they are so soft and friendly. And a ginger and white cat who purrs permanently and sits in strange places. We often find her sitting comfortably staring at a wall and purring at nothing.

LeGavrOrf Sun 22-Sep-13 18:49:54

Someone told me once that black cats are the ones which are never taken from rescues. That is such a shame. Black cats are lovely, they are like beautiful panthers.

I want some more cats.

SummerRain Sun 22-Sep-13 19:16:56

LeGavr, colouration is closely linked to behaviour. Check out the Russian experiments on foxes for an example. They breed them purely for temperament but they developed colouring similar to other domestic animals as a by product. The foxes bred to be 'untame' in personality retained their red colouring

Only domestic animals display pie bald or skewbald colouration, no wild animal has those colour types. It's a fascinating topic and shows the interrelationships between genes one wouldn't assume to be connected.

TheAccidentalExhibitionist Sun 22-Sep-13 19:18:03

I could fill my house with cats and dogs too. Love em. Two of each is probably all my DH could handle though.

I always thought torties were exclusively female but we live in France now (we took the cats with us when we moved) where there are lots of male torties. Our girl is unusual here though as she's a dark tortiseshell and they don't have those in France.

There is a national black cat day once a year in the UK to encourage the rehoming of black cats. Superstition has a lot to answer for.

TheAccidentalExhibitionist Sun 22-Sep-13 19:25:34

Oh we also have ginger females here too

AthelstaneTheUnready Sun 22-Sep-13 19:28:23

Gav, I only went to the rescue place for one, but brought out two because they said the same - no-one wants the black cats so they get put down shock.

I hadn't realised we carted so much 17th century about with us hmm

LeGavrOrf Sun 22-Sep-13 19:44:29

Oh yes summer I remember reading about the Russian foxes experiment in a Richard Dawkins book, it's a fascinating subject. That is also very interesting that there is no skewbald coloration in a wild animal.

Such a shame about black cats and their getting put down because nobody wants them. I don't know if our black boys are anything unusual in having lovely natures. They are so affectionate. They bloody dribble everywhere when being cuddled,

SummerRain Sun 22-Sep-13 20:21:54

I love black cats, I have 2. One the kitten of a rescue cat I took in when she was pregnant and one I found dumped at the side of the road. They have very different personalities but are both lovely in their own way, the female is far more stand offish but when she's in the mood she's a right pet.

I also have a ginger and he has definitely chosen dd as his person. Sleeps on her bed every night and cries if he can't find her grin

The blue and white female is a madame, hates being picked up but is very playful and affectionate.

My black and white female is the biggest pet by far, she loves being on people's laps and purrs like a tractor at the slightest hint of affection. She's amazingly tolerant of the kids too.

LeGavrOrf Sun 22-Sep-13 20:24:50

I had Siamese cats when growing up. They were wonderful. They had all the best bits of a dogs personality combined with that of a cats

NorbertDentressangle Sun 22-Sep-13 20:29:22

I didn't realise that the disdainful, dirty looks were such a character trait of torties.

We used to describe our tortie as looking as if she had a bad smell under her nose most of the time.

Mogz Sun 22-Sep-13 20:29:57

Accidental male torties are possible due to a little genetic mix up irrc they're usually blessed with three sets of genes, instead of two, xxy or xyy. There ae probably other ways too but I'm not scientific enough to work it out.

LeGavrOrf Sun 22-Sep-13 20:41:40

I didn't either Norbert until we got her.

She is the only cat who responds to her name (probably because we tend to call them collectively 'kittykittykittens' and other such bollocks like the twats we are) but by respond she doesn't come over purring. She just looks at you, gives a deep breath and then gives a cat side eye. She is like Maggie Smith in Downton Abbey faced with a ghastly middle class person.

Never known a cat with such a distinct character.

TheAccidentalExhibitionist Sun 22-Sep-13 20:43:12

That's fascinating to know Mogz is it the same for ginger females?

LeGavrOrf I had a seal point Siamese when I was growing up. I could look at him all day long, he was so beautiful but boy was he neurotic. He was a high maintenance rescue, noisy as hell.
We had a Burmese too that dribbled all over us when we cuddled her. She loved cuddles so much she'd sit in the bath, submerged in the water just for the chance to get a bit of love.

NorbertDentressangle Sun 22-Sep-13 20:53:02

Ours didn't do much of the hunting that has been spoken about .

Although there were two possible/near miss occasions:

-the time I found a slow worm in the bedroom and have no idea how it got there. Tortie cat was chief culprit, being the only cat we had but managed to cover her tracks well if it was her.

-the time I heard an almighty commotion outside. I looked out of the upstairs window to see a shower of feathers falling from the sky as a very distressed pigeon flapped away in a lucky escape. Tortie cat was seen on the ground below doing that 'emergency wash' thing that they do when something hasn't gone quite according to plan and they've made a bit of a twat of themselves. hmm

LeGavrOrf Sun 22-Sep-13 20:54:33

Mine were seal point, they were absolutely beautiful. All died young from leukaemia, bless them.

That is wonderful about a cat in a bath. I would love that.

God I am obsessed with cats. Went to someone's house this week, she had a white cat (haven't seen one of those for years) with amazing eyes, blue around the pupil and then green. She was beautiful.

LeGavrOrf Sun 22-Sep-13 20:56:51

Haha Norbert.

My tortie played with a centipede this week. She didn't kill it amazingly, just played for hours and followed it around. She looked thrilled to bits.

bishboschone Sun 22-Sep-13 21:19:29

We had Siamese cats growing up too.. 3 of them but one had kittens so we had loads at one point.. They girls only likes one person but the boy was soo friendly . Such a lovely boy .. All went on to 17 ish .. One of the girls was mine and I loved her very much hmm

thesixteenthtry Sun 22-Sep-13 21:19:41

I can't believe male torties are common in France. Tortie means black and ginger (maybe white too) Are some people confusing them with tabbies?
I wouldn't ever have a tortie, too many are nasty or mad.

Mogz Sun 22-Sep-13 21:23:51

I don't think so, Accidental, I think that the ginger in females acts as a recessive trait so that's why it's rarer.
It's only the X chromosome that has a colour gene, so that's why females (xx) can be tortie and males are just found in single colours. White bits are sorted by a different gene and I've no idea how cats with points of colour work, must be a bit of magic though as they're gorgeous!
It's probably all a bit more complicated than that but that's how the vet explained it to me when I was about 9 or 10.

LeGavrOrf Sun 22-Sep-13 21:29:14

I think tortoiseshells are lovely if you are the person they are attached to iyswim.

I love my tortoiseshell to bits but I am the person she is affectionate with.

She can't stand my daughter so my dd feels a lot cooler towards her, and prefers the other cats because they are lovely and cuddly with everyone.

SummerRain Sun 22-Sep-13 21:37:06

Cut and pasted from a website as I'm being lazy and it explains it pretty well:

"The ginger colour of cats (known as "yellow", "orange" or "red" to cat breeders) is caused by the "O" gene. The O gene changes black pigment into a reddish pigment. The O gene is carried on the X chromosome. A normal male cat has XY genetic makeup; he only needs to inherit one O gene for him to be a ginger cat. A normal female is XX genetic makeup. She must inherit two O genes to be a ginger cat. If she inherits only one O gene, she will be tortoiseshell. The O gene is called a sex-linked gene because it is carried on a sex chromosome. Tortoiseshell cats are therefore heterozygous (not true-breeding) for red colour.

The formation of red and black patches in a female with only one O gene is through a process known as X-chromosome inactivation. Some cells randomly activate the O gene while others activate the gene in the equivalent place on the other X chromosome. This only shows up visibly in skin cells as these produce pigment. This occurs early on in the embryo and as skin cells multiply, they form patches. The skin is a mosaic of cells where some have the O gene active (making ginger pigment) and some do not (making black pigment). This can only happen in cats with two X chromosomes. Male cats only inherit one X chromosome so this is active in all skin cells as there is nothing equivalent on the Y chromosome which could "switch off" the O gene."

The site is here and a section further down the page on sorrel cats might explain the light coloured french 'tortoishells' Accidental is talking about.

LeGavrOrf Sun 22-Sep-13 21:45:19

Thank you very much for that link I am going to bed to read it now, I find things like this endlessly fascinating.

I wish I could learn more about genetics, I really do, but fear I lack the rigid intelligence,

SummerRain Sun 22-Sep-13 21:56:58

I'm doing an OU module on Evolution atm and it's fascinating stuff. I'm far from rigidly intelligent but luckily the course is based more around macro-evolution and evolutionary trends than genetics.

I'm supposed to be studying for my exam now tbh so I really should stop reading cat threads and get on with it blush

catameringue Sun 22-Sep-13 22:59:02

I have a grey, ginger and white female who is awesome.
She only likes me not dh,
She is the best gymnast ever,
She only likes hunting and playing with things that come to her,
She likes opening drawers, the divan etc and sitting in it.
She loves chin rubs, but only if she's on the sofa or our bed. Otherwise she winces when you stroke her.
She loves tunnels and boxes.
She never sits on my lap as she prefers my face.
If I go to the loo in the middle of the night she excitedly accompanies me on the trip, purs like a tractor and demands constant attention.

GetStuffezd Mon 23-Sep-13 21:23:36

I am absolutely loving the way people describe their torties's antics. LOVED the "emergency wash!" SO apt grin
I came home today very upset because I bought a lovely mirror off Gumtree and it broke on the way home. In the living room I was confronted with an eviscerated vole, which I chucked out. Went upstairs to be greeted by its bowels on my bedroom floor. Didn't know whether to laugh or cry...

Lovethesea Mon 23-Sep-13 21:30:26

It's when I can only find the bowels I worry .... where is the rest of it? Did he eat it? If not where has he put it for me?

Or the time I found the rabbit leg and spent ages looking for the innards, only to realise I had dealt with those the day before and he had returned the leg to me that I had carefully chucked into the hedgerow at the bottom of the garden - as obviously no right minded human would refuse the lower half of a bunny as a gift.

SummerRain Mon 23-Sep-13 21:35:43

My grey kitten discovered a nest of voles over the summer and brought them home one by one.

Thing is we're in the west of Ireland and voles are extraordinarily rare here. How she found them is a mystery.

My old girl brings me a rat every now and again to remind me of her usefulness.

GetStuffezd Mon 23-Sep-13 21:41:01

YUK about the rabbit! Though I must admit I wouldn't mind if mine brought my home a dead one that had been humanely slaughtered and ready to cook...!

Summer - I didn't know voles were so rare over there. I like voles! Shrews bite and are evil but voles are so solemn and cute. Have an uncomfortable feeling this is the one I rescued a couple of weeks ago and put in the coal shed for safety.
RIP Voley!

Lovethesea Tue 24-Sep-13 20:14:10

I wouldn't mind rabbit but he ate it. Except the innards. And the back legs. They were mine. O joy.

LeGavrOrf Wed 25-Sep-13 08:02:39

We always get field mice and water voles. I mentioned in passing to my daughter that I was surprised at the water voles because I assumed they lived near rivers. Dd gave me a hmm face and said 'there is a stream in the graveyard (the other side of my garden fence). I had no idea and we have lived here for 5 years.

I also found something on the hallway floor one morning. Couldn't fathom out what it was and bent down peering at it. It was a mouse's FACE. Just his nose, whiskers and eyeless sockets. Obviously the whiskers were too scratchy to eat. It was horribly macabre like something out of Silence of the Lambs. I shrieked.

My tortie also likes gaps and small spaces. She buries herself in things and likes nothing more than settling herself in a tiny gap, and squeezes herself in small boxes.

DidoTheDodo Wed 25-Sep-13 15:12:23

I have a tortie kit and she is lovely! Greta fun and a big personality for a small furry thing, but not at all vicious or nasty, just funny.

I was a bit put off torties having heard people denigrate them so much, but am so glad we rescued her.

I am now torties greatest defender!

Horsemad Wed 25-Sep-13 16:53:20

Torties are the best! They have 'tortietude' grin

We've had 2 own us (current cat is a tortie) and they both had/have brilliant personalities. I never knew about the bonding but the first tortie was mine -totally ignored DH and the current tortie adores my DH and tolerates me - she pushes me out of the way to get to him!

Our previous cat was a black female - I've never met such a sweet cat, she was gorgeous.

SummerRain Thu 26-Sep-13 10:44:10

LeGavr, I had a similar experience with a bird skull that had been bitten in half... I was peering at it for ages before I could make out what I was looking at. She'd eaten the brains from inside and left the perfectly halved skull for me to find hmm

I opened the back door this morning and found my old girl swallowing something grey and furry whole... fascinating and disconcerting all at once, she didn't leave a drop of blood on the ground. She's lying on top of me purring like a tractor now and I'm slightly nervous grin

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