HELP! Garage have found a tiny KITTEN under my bonnet!

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timtam23 Mon 19-Aug-13 10:39:09

Took car in for service this morning and garage phoned to say they'd lifted the bonnet & found a tiny tiny kitten...After recovering from the shock I walked over to pick it up & it's absolutely tiny - maybe 5 weeks? Eyes are open...All I've managed to establish so far is it's male - white with tabby patches - it's hungry and it's covered in fleas! We are a cat-loving household & have 2 very geriatric cats, hadn't bargained on a kitten at all but have to admit it's very cute. But I'm clueless about kittens - 18 years since I had one! Have given it a bit of chicken/ham food for adult cats, which it devoured, and phoned the vet, but what else should I do?

envy Definitely to the vets first. Wonder where Mum is?

NatashaBee Mon 19-Aug-13 10:44:38

Did the vet say what you should feed it? I don't think it will be ready for adult cat food.

BTW we will need pictures grin

timtam23 Mon 19-Aug-13 10:44:39

Sparkling we haven't driven the car since last Weds so it's anyone's guess how long it's been there! We're not in an area known for kitten-abandonment, there are a lot of cats around but haven't seen any pregnant females & certainly no kittens. I'm always so envious of those other people who have kittens turn up on their doorsteps but I'm panicking now that it's happened to me!

YoniBottsBumgina Mon 19-Aug-13 10:45:35

Aww sounds lovely!

My dad found a kitten in his engine once, luckily before turning it on! I think they crawl in there because it's warm sad They kept the cat and it was a much loved family pet until it unfortunately got hit by a car about 2 years later.

Poor kitten. 5 weeks is very little.

timtam23 Mon 19-Aug-13 10:46:09

Natasha I will definitely get some kitten food for it later, vet's booked for 2.30 (have to get car back from garage first!) the chicken was all I had. I've got pics on my camera & will try to upload later, I promise!

YoniBottsBumgina Mon 19-Aug-13 10:47:04

Don't feed it cow's milk or baby formula. Cats can't digest cow's milk protein. If it's 5 weeks then it should be okay to eat normal food - you can buy special kitten food at supermarkets/pet shops etc.

cozietoesie Mon 19-Aug-13 10:51:56

Oh My. I reckon you've got an addition to the household now.

Let us know how you get on at the vets.

Best of luck to him. 5 weeks is tiny although by no means impossible to rear - but depending on any problems he may have.

I need to top up with screenwash today <hopeful>

SoupDragon Mon 19-Aug-13 10:57:27

Surely he has to be named after the make of car/garage/mechanic

timtam23 Mon 19-Aug-13 11:03:53

Soup it's a Nissan almera and the mechanic's name is Karl! Not sure any of them really suit him! And I'm trying not to name him yet in case we can't keep him or he's too poorly to make it sad

cozietoesie Mon 19-Aug-13 11:07:05

Wait and see how he does at the vets. If he's broadly OK, a few days of feeding and love will make a big difference to him.

(And find out the mechanic's second name - surnames often make great first names for cats.)

cozietoesie Mon 19-Aug-13 11:07:57

Poor Sparkling.


mignonette Mon 19-Aug-13 11:10:10

How about Karlos/Carlos? Or Almo?

timtam23 Mon 19-Aug-13 11:10:49

How do I put pics of kitten onto my profile? Can't seem to access the dropdown menu for my profile today

timtam23 Mon 19-Aug-13 11:20:03

OK have managed to put up a pic of him scoffing some food. He's now fast asleep in the cat carrier smile

SoupDragon Mon 19-Aug-13 11:22:00

Karl the Kitten smile

You need to make your profile public BTW.

LegoAcupuncture Mon 19-Aug-13 11:22:45


What a lucky kitten!

timtam23 Mon 19-Aug-13 11:25:04

Thanks Soup - profile now public, hope you can see it now!

mignonette Mon 19-Aug-13 11:26:22

Still can't see them smile....

BikeRunSki Mon 19-Aug-13 11:28:17

What' s wrong with Karl the Kitten ? This isn( t the baby names area, it's ok to like names beginning with K.

I want to see.
I have four three week old kittens and they are just gorgeous.

timtam23 Mon 19-Aug-13 11:40:19

I have made my profile & my photos public, saved everything, not sure what else I need to do to make them visible, sorry!

cozietoesie Mon 19-Aug-13 11:43:38

Looks like there's a bit of a site problem. Wakeycakey has tried to do it and it's not working for her yet. Best leave it for a little bit and see if it comes right.


mignonette Mon 19-Aug-13 11:46:37

I want to see the kittens!

<<<<<Throws self on floor, screaming>>>>>..

cozietoesie Mon 19-Aug-13 11:48:37

I just had a look on Site Stuff and there's a thread there with people who are having the same problem so looks like you're not alone,OP.

DaddyPigsMistress Mon 19-Aug-13 11:51:06

[Envy] stuff like this never happens to me envy

SaggyOldClothCatPuss Mon 19-Aug-13 11:52:50

Call him Almera! grin
DP used to have a cat called Cosworth!
Poor little chap! I wonder where his mum is!

Aw <shameless marking of place for cute kitten photo>

Dillydollydaydream Mon 19-Aug-13 11:54:19

Al smile
Hope he's ok. Poor thing.

GetStuffezd Mon 19-Aug-13 11:56:42

Oh wow! That's brilliant! Years ago one of our farm kittens managed to hide himself under the bonnet. We drove for ages before we realised what the strange meowing sound was. Poor little thing!
Can't wait to see pictures...

JuliaScurr Mon 19-Aug-13 11:59:17

mignonette grin

timtam23 Mon 19-Aug-13 12:17:58

Car hasn't been used or bonnet lifted since DH drove back from rural Berkshire a few days ago so it's an outside chance that he may be a stowaway from there (although I can't believe he would have held on up all the motorways!)

I just fleacombed him and there were a lot of live fleas, yuk. At least with them gone we can now all give him a proper cuddle!

Thanks for all the lovely replies, I'll let you know what the vet says, hopefully pic will be visible later as well

MrsWolowitz Mon 19-Aug-13 12:20:13


Checked under my bonnet. Distinct lack of kittens. There was a cuddly grey cat sitting on the passenger seat as I left the door open. That was my cat though. sad

cozietoesie Mon 19-Aug-13 12:22:14

Rotten luck, Sparkling.

timtam23 Mon 19-Aug-13 12:27:51

Sorry Sparkling. One day it will be you I'm sure. I always though it would never be me!

I want a kitten in my car.

Maybe not right now as I have just driven for 5 hours, but at some point. KITTY!

Fairenuff Mon 19-Aug-13 12:30:55

Call him Milo (mileage)

< stretches car connection to ridiculous lengths >

Lancelottie Mon 19-Aug-13 12:31:19

I'm sure there are more car-related names to be explored here (though Karl is indeed a good start).

Chitty Kitty Bang Bang?

Bumper would be a good name for a bigger cat...

SaggyOldClothCatPuss Mon 19-Aug-13 12:33:42


cozietoesie Mon 19-Aug-13 12:34:00

His name will come to you. You just have to remember that you'll (hopefully) have to spend years having it called out in the vets and, if he's an outside cat, calling it in the garden. Sometimes, suitable caution has to be exercised.

DaleyBump Mon 19-Aug-13 12:37:48

I have to see the picture of the kitten! Come on MNHQ, get your cat together!

DaleyBump Mon 19-Aug-13 12:38:16

*act, but what an autocorrect grin

TrinityRhino Mon 19-Aug-13 12:40:15

checked car, no kittens or puppies sad

<marks place for updates and kitty pics>

Lancelottie Mon 19-Aug-13 12:44:20


umm... maybe not.

upload to Photobucket shame about your profile issues!

Aw, lovely, I think Carpet is a fantastic name grin

moonbells Mon 19-Aug-13 13:27:32

Well I wish we'd named our kitten Diesel cos he sounds like a loud Diesel engine when he purrs...

saintmerryweather Mon 19-Aug-13 13:31:18

id call him nissan, but i used to know a horse called nissan

He should be named 'Clarkson'. grin Or Jenson.

SaggyOldClothCatPuss Mon 19-Aug-13 13:37:27

STIG! grin

Fairenuff Mon 19-Aug-13 13:41:11

Oh yes, call him Stig.

Here, Stiggy, Stiggy...

timtam23 Mon 19-Aug-13 13:46:05

DH says he doesn't think we can keep it sad

I know all the reasons why he says that, and my head does agree that he's right (although I do want to keep it!), but he has conceded that we need to look after it for at least a little while as all the rescues around here are totally full and it needs lots of care as it's so little

Maybe I'll be able to persuade him

Are they all really practical reasons too tim?

Fairenuff Mon 19-Aug-13 13:51:23

Could you offer to foster him for the Cats Protection League until they find a suitable home? They will help with costs if that's a barrier.

flatmum Mon 19-Aug-13 13:52:15

keep him! keep him!

he'll come round, they always do .. ;)

my DP was very against us getting 2 kittens last year and wouldn't go near them. last night they were all asleep on the sofa in their normal position - one on his stomach and one on his head!

One of the concerns is possibly the 2 geriatric cats who wouldn't be thrilled presumably.....

AnitaManeater Mon 19-Aug-13 13:54:41

don't be too thorough with the flea comb, get the lives ones out leave some flea dirt in until you have seen the vet. If kitty is that riddled with fleas he may be anaemic - leaving the dirt in the fur will give him the chance of re-ingesting some of the lost iron.

SaggyOldClothCatPuss Mon 19-Aug-13 13:56:50

Hahaha! Your DH has no chance! grin
My DP did this with our pup when he was born a bit crooked! "He can stay for a while"... That was 5 years ago! grin
Mark my words, little Stig will be staying! wink

edam Mon 19-Aug-13 13:57:56

aw, what a lovely surprise! Wish MN would hurry up and sort out the profile pics issue. Shame about dh but I wonder how he will feel after several weeks of fostering... your other cats may be OK as he's a kitten, and pet insurance is cheap for kittens. grin

timtam23 Mon 19-Aug-13 14:01:54

yes Sparkling we have 17 & 18 yr old cats already, the 17 yr old is going blind & the 18 yr old has failing kidneys, the blind one gets really upset if strangers come in (and wees on the carpet) so I think a new kitten would probably give the same result! We were also thinking that once the 2 old ones both died, we would have some cat-free months to go on holiday before taking on more pet responsibilities (haven't been away as a family for more than a weekend for 2 yrs because of complicated cat requirements). Also the kids are still very young and I think it would be a very noisy household for such a tiny animal, they are pretty good with the older cats however....

cozietoesie Mon 19-Aug-13 14:03:42

Don't worry timtam. DH may change his mind after a few weeks of fostering. Even if he doesn't, though, or the two oldies take against the kitten big time, if you manage to raise him to - say - 10 weeks old, you'll have done a very good deed and given him a real chance at life.

Everybody knows I would love a kitten but I know for a fact Sparkling Cat would not. The reason she was at CP is she didn't get on with the cat she was rehomed with.
She is very territorial with the neighbourhood cats too.

I just couldn't do it to her.

cozietoesie Mon 19-Aug-13 14:10:13

Bet you'd love to try though?

Yes, a teeny bit of me thinks it might be ok, but i would never forgive myself if it didn't. Sparkling Cat comes first.

The lady over the road has a 12 week old kitten so I am getting my fix. smile

Methinks if you can't keep Stig of the Pumpgrin then you won't be short of the envy takers here...

<eyes up Sparkling beadily:->

<Bins Sparkling then!>

It's Sparkling Cat's fault Tree. Stroppy madam that she is.

SaggyOldClothCatPuss Mon 19-Aug-13 14:20:18

Well if Stig is staying for a short time anyway, maybe introduce him to the other cats and see what happens. You may be surprised! My friend has an ancient, cantankerous temperamental old dog. She recently rescued a new youngster. The d boy has a new lease of life! You may find that he slots right in after a week or two. And he won't be tiny forever.

cozietoesie Mon 19-Aug-13 14:21:12

When the day comes that it's right for you all, Sparkling, you'll know - because your kitten will arrive in some manner.


SoupDragon Mon 19-Aug-13 14:56:28

he has conceded that we need to look after it for at least a little while

That kitten's going nowhere!

timtam23 Mon 19-Aug-13 16:02:26

Well, the vet agrees that the kitten's male, he says it's probably about 7 weeks old, checked him over & he's healthy, gave him a good squirt of spray to kill the remaining fleas and says he will need 1st vaccinations in about 2 weeks!

Local cat rescue says they're completely full to the rafters but if we really can't keep him they will probably be able to take him in a couple of weeks

DH is officially "tolerating" the kitten but I caught him chatting to it & trying to coax it out of the cat carrier grin

cozietoesie Mon 19-Aug-13 16:06:30

........but I caught him chatting to it & trying to coax it out of the cat carrier.........


tobiasfunke Mon 19-Aug-13 16:12:41

Ooh I want to find a kitten in my car.
We had a cat called Stig (long before Top Gear thank god). He generally got called Stigbert or Stiggywiggywoo. It's a fine name for a cat.

PistachioTruffle Mon 19-Aug-13 16:24:28

Shamelessly marking place to see pictures of the car-kitten.

NatashaBee Mon 19-Aug-13 16:36:51

It sounds like DH is already half-way to being persuaded!

SaggyOldClothCatPuss Mon 19-Aug-13 16:42:30

Stig is staying! grin
Are you sure its a kitten they found? Not just the CATalytic converter! grin

MissMarplesBloomers Mon 19-Aug-13 16:49:46

Mr Tim-tam is secretly smitten! grin

cozietoesie Mon 19-Aug-13 17:25:15

Well Tech finally recovered form the weekend and photos are now available.

Gorgeous, timtam.


envy envy envy at photo. Humph.

cozietoesie Mon 19-Aug-13 17:29:12

You must have a very clean car engine, timtam. He's still pretty white.

<melts> he is so cute!

SoupDragon Mon 19-Aug-13 17:46:32


Can you imagine the mechanic's face when he found a kitten? grin

Iwouldratherbemuckingout Mon 19-Aug-13 18:15:06

Oh my! He's an absolute sweetie. I'm another on mr Tim tam melting .... Hope oldies are ok, sometimes they surprise you.

And anther vote for stig!

PistachioTruffle Mon 19-Aug-13 18:39:08

How cute! Definitely a Stig grin

NandH Mon 19-Aug-13 18:40:01

Ohhhhhh I'm so envy

How cute is he!!!

off to check my car, I want one!!!!

GetStuffezd Mon 19-Aug-13 18:41:18

He is SO beautiful!!!
keep him keep him keep him keep him keep him keep him keep him keep him keep him keep him keep him keep him keep him keep him keep him keep him keep him keep him keep him keep him keep him keep him!

ClaraOswald Mon 19-Aug-13 18:43:59

He's gorgeous.

Your day shall come SParkling.

DameDeepRedBetty Mon 19-Aug-13 18:47:04

I did rather like Kitty Kitty Bang Bang ^^ but Stig of the Pump is genius!

He's sooooo cute (wonders if BettyCat would put up with having a new little friend).

am just marking place so i can see the photo on the mobile site (am on app)

O M SQUEE! grin

he is super duper cute! i am officially very envy

and yes... you defo need a car related name though i do like karl

MyBoysAreFab Mon 19-Aug-13 19:12:36

Stig is gorgeous!

MairzyDoats Mon 19-Aug-13 19:18:49

Oh he's so sweeeeeeet! It's so unfair, why do the lost kittens never turn up here? envy

MissMarplesBloomers Mon 19-Aug-13 19:26:38

Oh how CUTE is he........<squee noises>

nothruroad Mon 19-Aug-13 19:32:02

He's gorgeous. Why do I NEVER find kittens? It seems unfair. I'd be such a good kitten rescuer.

Tabby1963 Mon 19-Aug-13 19:36:29

Oh gosh he's gorgeous! Lucky, lucky you. what will you name him?

cozietoesie Mon 19-Aug-13 19:37:40

Has he found DH's lap yet?

(You need to listen to DH's language by the way. Once he utters the fateful words 'My Boy' - as in 'Has My Boy eaten anything/used his tray?' then you'll know you've got a new household member.)


ProphetOfDoom Mon 19-Aug-13 19:42:36

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

Catypillar Mon 19-Aug-13 19:45:15

You could call him Carwash like the cat in Willo the Wisp?

Fluffycloudland77 Mon 19-Aug-13 19:53:49

Oh he's soo tiny. He could be a guide cat for your old cats and a great comfort to you when the time comes...

I have a practical dh too.

cozietoesie Mon 19-Aug-13 19:57:57

In my experience, it's the practical ones that fall the hardest when they do fall.


Fluffycloudland77 Mon 19-Aug-13 20:04:29

Yes, like the snow bengal he wanted to buy last year. I thought he was going to offer to part exchange me at one point hmm

cozietoesie Mon 19-Aug-13 20:16:50


timtam23 Mon 19-Aug-13 20:32:52

I can't remember who suggested finding out Karl-the-mechanic's surname, but I asked this afternoon, and I think it works as a kitten name (although sadly gives no opportunity for lots of puns about cars), so...

The kitten's name is DUDLEY!

He is really cute, perked up a lot over today and is trying to play with pingpong balls (but a bit too scared still!)

He was on DH's lap this afternoon grin and is on mine at the moment, although am not convinced that all the fleas are gone yet [yuk emoticon]

Geriatric cats are not too impressed but we didn't expect them to welcome him with delight, so will take it slowly.

On the bright side one of my friends has been looking into getting a kitten recently so she has said if we really can't keep him she would like to have him

cozietoesie Mon 19-Aug-13 20:34:34

A secure future for Dudley then - either way.


Fluffycloudland77 Mon 19-Aug-13 20:35:16

Dudley is a fab name.

What a lovely thread.

Shyer Mon 19-Aug-13 20:36:19

Dudley - lovely cat, lovely name! Best wishes to the little lad in his gorgeous new home and to his loving family.

cozietoesie Mon 19-Aug-13 20:39:56

Oh - and remember to email/print out the picture for the garage. It will make their year!


LegoAcupuncture Mon 19-Aug-13 20:53:15

Lovely happy ending for Dudley.

littlemisswise Mon 19-Aug-13 21:00:35

Awww envy Dudley is very cute.

DS2 is really, really jealous. He wants a kitten but I won't let him, he knows that if one found it's way under our bonnet I'd let him keep it. The hamster wouldn't be happy though!

ThatVikRinA22 Mon 19-Aug-13 21:00:38

Call him Herbie after the beetle that had a mind of his own! Am envy !

timtam23 Mon 19-Aug-13 21:04:32

Thank you everyone this has been such a lovely thread for me to read through too, I never expected so many responses when I first posted. I've rushed about so much today, not helped by the car being out of action, and I've been worrying about the kitten as it really wasn't part of the life plan right now! But I think one way or the other he will end up in a good home.

ThatVikRinA22 Mon 19-Aug-13 21:08:06

My rescue rat is called Dudley! After cuddly Dudley in a book......

fuckwittery Mon 19-Aug-13 21:13:33

Ahh lovely, just the thread I needed to read tonight, warm fluffy kitten finding love. I NEED to find a kitten, DH refuses to let me get a new one since our old one passed away, she only loved me and I think DH was jealous although he denies. I'd be quite happy to have a new cat that loved us both, but the only possible way is if we find a very small cute one and I also catch my DH talking to it grin
Do update on your DH and the kitten, I bet he won't want to let it go in a few days.

edam Mon 19-Aug-13 21:14:47

Aww, Dudley is gorgeous. He's a very lucky kitten, whether he stays with you or goes to your friend. But my money's on your dh growing very attached to him... grin

MyBoysAreFab Mon 19-Aug-13 21:18:20

Aww, I was going to make a witty remark about how your DH can't dump Stig smile but Dudley is a fab name, and lovely that he could have a home with your friend if not you!

timtam23 Mon 19-Aug-13 21:37:33

DH playing peekaboo with kitten + a sheet of newspaper...


Where is Dudley sleeping tonight?

cozietoesie Mon 19-Aug-13 21:40:38

.....DH playing peekaboo with kitten......


I think 'My Boy' is probably not far off.

envy I have 3wk puppies who were dumped- want to swap? They're just as cute, honestly. <lies>

SoupDragon Mon 19-Aug-13 21:43:33


dudley's going nowhere!

tinypumpkin Mon 19-Aug-13 21:47:15

Loving the story and the name for your kitten (a matter of time only...)

FairPhyllis Mon 19-Aug-13 21:47:57

Sparkling, out of curiosity, do you spend all day at the computer pressing 'refresh' on MN and waiting for stray kitten threads to turn up? Or do you have a siren that goes off when someone starts one? grin

I think in Active Conversations I am drawn to the word 'kitten' Fair. Plus The Litter Tray is one of a handful of my unhidden topics. grin

Shaky Mon 19-Aug-13 21:54:30

Awww Dudley is absolutely beautiful grin

cozietoesie Mon 19-Aug-13 21:54:31

She has a psychic bond, Fair. wink

dudley is an awesome name!

yes do email the garage and tell them... im sure they'd love that story

oh and he's going nowhere if dh is playing peekaboo with him already grin

timtam23 Mon 19-Aug-13 21:56:32

Sparkling I'm not sure if he'll be upset by this but we think we will try him in the cat carrier overnight at the mo (it's a very large one so plenty of space) - just until the others get more used to him being around - we have to leave all the doors open for the other 2 to roam around, and we can't change things around too much because the blind one would get really disorientated & upset if he walked into closed doors. Also we don't want him upstairs around the beds until we're convinced all the fleas are dead & gone!

Also from long-ago kitten experience he would probably get himself wedged into somewhere unsuitable overnight, he has already been eyeing the chimney (it's blocked up, but I'm sure he would find somewhere equally kitten-unfriendly)

He's dashing around at the moment so will probably be very tired, he's had a busy day (understatement!)

That's a great idea. How will it work with the litter tray though?

NorfolkIngWay Mon 19-Aug-13 21:59:10

<weeps> he is gorgeous

cozietoesie Mon 19-Aug-13 22:02:48

I think it will be a set the alarm for 3 in the morning job Sparkling.

Talking of which - has he used his tray yet ?

timtam23 Mon 19-Aug-13 22:03:17

Errr, not sure Sparkling...he has been scratching around in it this evening, I think we'll have to take a chance that he'll use the tray before bedtime - if he squeaks I'll probably hear him as the DCs often wake up in the night as well. We have a small house and there's no way of shutting him or the other cats into their own "wing"!

cozietoesie Mon 19-Aug-13 22:05:35

See how it goes then. Your blind cat is the complication if they're used to open doors everywhere.

timtam23 Mon 19-Aug-13 22:26:56

I added another better pic to my profile - taken this afternoon once he'd settled in a bit & was cleaned up & partially deflead - he really is cute even if I do say so myself! He's wreaking havoc just now, I'd forgotten how kittens are into absolutely everything as soon as your back's turned.

Xmasbaby11 Mon 19-Aug-13 22:33:55

Sooo beautiful!!!

cozietoesie Mon 19-Aug-13 22:39:34

He looks full of himself. smile

With his colouring, you'll be able to spot any remaining fleas real easily if eg they dance round the neck - as they tend to in my experience.

Have you put way any valuable nick nacks yet?

timtam23 Mon 19-Aug-13 22:44:01

cozie the house has been childproofed for the last few years - they are climbers so everything is packed away or moved up high - hopefully also kitten-proof!

He's going for the computer flexes though, which is worrying DH (who is permanently attached to his computer)

Oooooh soooo jealous. We want to find a cat. Tis the only way DH and the dog would by it.

Dudley is luvly

YoniBottsBumgina Mon 19-Aug-13 22:46:39

grin So cute!

cozietoesie Mon 19-Aug-13 22:46:48

I've seen some guidance on that (flexes). Give me 2.

cozietoesie Mon 19-Aug-13 22:51:36

Here you go. The guidance is US so the photos will be of US electrical sockets but the principles are sound I think. Basically, it's just good practice - which DH should be following anyway, particularly with kids in the house.

You might not have a chewer though. Kittens are into everything that moves - and most of the things that don't! - and he'll be full of surplus energy after his ordeal and rescue and lots of food.

timtam23 Mon 19-Aug-13 22:55:21

Thanks cozie, we do most of that already for the kids, DH is just a bit lazy with a few of his things - he's said he'll reform for the sake of the kitten!

cozietoesie Mon 19-Aug-13 22:57:41

Oh My. Just get into the habit of saying 'It's for Dudley, Darling!'


SoupDragon Tue 20-Aug-13 07:51:38

Kittens are into everything that moves

Even 6 yo FatCat can't resist a moving charger lead or length of wool that's being crocheted with <<glares at FatCat>> and he is, apparently, far too grown up for that kind of thing.

Dudley is gorgeous smile

sashh Tue 20-Aug-13 07:57:47

He is so cute.

Arthur used to climb into warm car engines, my dad once took his car for a service and the engine was covered with white hair.

cozietoesie Tue 20-Aug-13 08:23:40

How did it go overnight, timtam?

fuckwittery Tue 20-Aug-13 08:59:01

oh my, new face on pic, he is bloody scrumptious.

issey6cats Tue 20-Aug-13 13:03:36

he is georgous and dudley suits him

Awwww, he is sooooooo cuuuute! grin

MexicanHat Tue 20-Aug-13 13:34:42

Awww he is just gorgeous!!!!

NicholasTeakozy Tue 20-Aug-13 13:47:40

Wow, he's gorgeous.

RabbitsarenotHares Tue 20-Aug-13 16:13:25

He is ABSOLUTELY gorgeous!!!!! Any sign of his mother?

georgedawes Tue 20-Aug-13 16:15:28

Such a cutie! How is he today?

MyBoysAreFab Tue 20-Aug-13 19:03:46

If you don't keep him, I think there will be a MN bunfight over who gets custody. This may have to go into Relationships smile

cozietoesie Tue 20-Aug-13 19:11:08


timtam23 Tue 20-Aug-13 20:31:42

Thanks everyone smile

Today's update - He was ok in the cat carrier overnight, cried a lot at first and I almost went down to him but he then fell asleep and slept all night - today he's been pottering around and fell asleep a lot on DS1 (who is distraught that we could even be THINKING of not keeping him). I also gave him a quick bath, the water was filthy afterwards and there were lots of dead fleas floating around shock hopefully that's the last of them!

DH's input today was to get the old playpen out of the loft & make it into a Dudley-pen so that he can eat & sleep in there if he needs a bit of peace & quiet, & we can keep him in it at night with the carrier door open, rather than lock him into the very small cat carrier - also means that the older cats can potter around without meeting him in the night

Geriatric Cat #1 has just been in there scoffing the kitten food though!

cozietoesie Tue 20-Aug-13 20:42:42

Could the bath have washed away flea killer which should have been there a little longer? (I simply don't know but another poster might.)

I applaud DH's industry. Unless the playpen also has a top, I think you're going to be talking chocolate teapot within a few days (if not immediately) - but it keeps him involved and happy.

The oldies eating his food is actually quite good. They'll be at a place that smells of him and feeling positive (food) thoughts about it.

Good progress.


PS - if the oldies are near their next flea treatment, I'd do it pretty soon. .

timtam23 Tue 20-Aug-13 20:44:58

Treated the oldies yesterday as soon as I saw the first flea jump!

Grumpiest old cat is sitting down here in the armchair looking at the kitten, which is great progress since yesterday.

cozietoesie Tue 20-Aug-13 20:48:16

It may be that his being so little and a tad subdued by his ordeal has helped. If they had been faced with a 12 week old, in fine fettle and torpedoing all over the place, it might have been a different story.

moonbells Tue 20-Aug-13 22:54:29

Turn playpen upside down if it's one with a base... that ought to work!

edam Tue 20-Aug-13 22:59:47

If you turn the playpen over, maybe you can make a few quid, like these people? grin

Aprillisa Wed 21-Aug-13 02:11:54

Oh Tim your story is a bit like mine-went to the vets with my dog for a checkup a few months ago and someone came in with a 6 wk old kitten they had just found on the roadside and I ended up bringing her home.Dh was never a cat lover but has really grown fond of this scallywag.She has wreaked havoc on the house,terrorises the poor dog,would climb through the eye of a needle and is a right handful but we wouldnt be without her and are really glad we took her in.My one looks quite like your Dudley actuallysmile.

SoupDragon Wed 21-Aug-13 07:01:49

Holy crap - you bathed a cat?? shock I can imagine FatCat's reaction if I tried that!

Dudley is so staying with you. He may boost your older cats a bit smile

FatCat was only a young cat when the late SoupKitten came to live with us but they fought for a week and then were best of friends, curled up together to sleep.

ZebraOwl Wed 21-Aug-13 08:00:51

So nice to read a Happy Kitteny Thread. Dudley looks exceptionally cute - hope you get to keep him smile

changeforthebetter Wed 21-Aug-13 08:42:19

Aww! smile

I want one (totally out of the question and ChangeCats would be livid but still...... [wistful])

bobblypop Wed 21-Aug-13 12:09:39

awww he is sooo gorgeous!
I have also recently "acquired" a kitten!
Went to work as usual one day, was out visiting a patient...and found tiny filthy kitten hiding under a car in a car park. No sign of any owners despite asking locally... Ended up bringing him home (despite having 2 dogs who have never lived with a cat!) as rescues all full... walked in the house and greeted DH with a tiny kitten head peering out of my work bag! Told DH it was just for a couple of days...which he said was good as there was "no way we could keep it" ...lots of very good reasons why not...
3 weeks later he is curled up fast asleep next to me on the sofa. DH loves him, dogs are great with him..older one mostly ignores him and younger one keeps bring him his tuggy trying to get him to play LOL DC all love him and he aint going anywhere! Vet reckoned he was about 12 weeks old when we first got him - bit small though.
oh and I also bathed him when I brought him home...thought it would be like bathing a dog LOL. The scars have almost healed...hmm
I think Dudley is there to stay! wink

timtam23 Wed 21-Aug-13 21:31:37

April & bobbly so pleased your kitten stories had happy endings too!

Soup I've tried to bath older cats, and my arms have been well & truly shredded, so I thought I'd get Dudley washed while he was still small enough to hold in one hand!

Anyway today I spent yet more money on the creature & bought him a scratching post thing, as he's shredding my sofa & carpets

The playpen last night was hilarious, he kept escaping & we found him scuttling around at 1am spooking the oldies, so he ended up shut in the cat carrier again, we'll have another think about how to keep him safe & contained at night!

DH has admitted that Dud is probably staying grin

The old cats are still not very happy about it but I think they are going to tolerate him, they were my main worry because I didn't want them upset.

Off for some wine now to celebrate!

chezchaos Wed 21-Aug-13 21:39:29

Oh he's gorgeous!!!

timtam have you seen this?

timtam23 Wed 21-Aug-13 22:48:18

No I hadn't Sparkling! The poor little thing! He looks lovely - I hope he has a family to go back to.

Me too. He's very oily, but looks a lovely cat.

Aprillisa Wed 21-Aug-13 23:10:38

Tim We had the problem of what to do at nightime also and we simply put her in the spare boxroom which only has some spare furniture in it,no carpet or any electrical wires so is in fact ideal.She has her bed (well I say bed,but we bought her a lovely cat house bed thing and she far prefers the laundry basket full of spare blankets that is on top of the wardrobe in the room), her litter tray,some toys and food/water at night.It was the only way to keep her safe and give the dog some peace at night also.It sounds a bit extreme giving a kitten her own room but it is idle and empty anyway.
Jeez,we got terrible fright today as she was playing with a large gift bag with those cord handles and I heard a squeak from the ground and when I looked again I realised she was choking..the cord had been doubly wrapped round her neck..I have no idea how she did this but I had a job cutting it it was so tight.If I hadnt been there..sad.
Sorry Tim for thread hijack.So pleased your Dudley is doing great.As for your dh..grin.

Scarletohello Wed 21-Aug-13 23:21:04

Oh I want to see the kitten! How do I see him? Not v tetchy so don't know how to see people's pics on MN! Who can tell me how I can view the kitty..??

Click on timtam23's name on one of her posts Scarlet.

timtam23 Wed 21-Aug-13 23:28:32

Scarlet, if you click on my name above any of my posts it should take you to my profile, and then click on "see timtam23's photos" and there are 2 photos of dudley.

timtam23 Wed 21-Aug-13 23:30:22

Croosposted Sparkling!

Must do something else this evening, have spent the whole time on MN with a kitten jumping around on my lap smile

Fluffycloudland77 Thu 22-Aug-13 13:07:27

Yay he's staying.

I bought a cardboard scratch pad for our cat, it's £6 in tk maxx and is basically a tray of cut strips of corrugated card board lined up and glued together with a little bag of catnip that you sprinkle over, It doesn't look much good but the cat loves it, he even sleeps in it.

He even fished the bag of catnip out of my bedside drawer. I have noticed the hall carpet isn't getting ragged as much since I bought it.

I got one of those for Sparkling cat Fluffy. She had no idea what to do with it. angry
I gave it to my Mum for her cat who has had a real good go at it, and seemed to know exactly what to do. confused

FairPhyllis Thu 22-Aug-13 22:10:14

Ah I'm glad he's staying. As soon as I saw the bit about your dh setting up a playpen I knew it would be so.

Horsemad Fri 23-Aug-13 13:21:47

OMG that kitten is soooooo cute! Glad he's staying!

Hurrah that kitty is staying.

Now, how come I never find stray kittens? I have a loving home all ready and waiting but a DH who would not countenance us getting another animal, but who could be easily persuaded if one turned up looking needy.

edam Fri 23-Aug-13 15:01:16

Lovely news. grin

timtam23 Fri 23-Aug-13 21:51:54

Exit I always said exactly the same thing, until last Monday when I was that person who had to deal with the stray kitten!

Dudley is doing really well, getting very playful then conking out for hours at a time - he's snoozing on the sofa at the moment.

DH has put the playpen away as our old blind cat was a bit freaked out by it & Dudley was scaling the sides in a few seconds anyway.

The old cats are still keeping out of the way but we're hoping they will come round a bit more in the next week or so.

DH keeps bringing out new toys for Dudley and I think he's smitten grin

cozietoesie Fri 23-Aug-13 22:09:52

Keeping out of the way is fine - they're just being sensible. (Remember to give them lots of TLC even though the Dudley is occupying centre stage.)

timtam23 Fri 23-Aug-13 22:17:49

Yes we are definitely giving them lots of strokes and some cat treats

They both sleep on our bed at the start of the night and I make a big fuss of them before I turn the light out

They spend a lot of time asleep on the bed as usual, but they used to come down in the evening after the kids were in bed, and sit with us all evening. That's what they're not doing at the moment, because the kitten is skittering around where they would usually chill out.

It's not as bad as it could have been though.

Fluffycloudland77 Sat 24-Aug-13 08:04:41

Kittens must be so annoying to older cats though. It's like having a toddler around with a pack of haribo and no bedtime.

Horsemad Sat 24-Aug-13 08:23:47

Lol Fluffy you took the words out of mouth! They are so like toddlers!

edam Sat 24-Aug-13 11:31:58

grin fluffy

Timtam, so glad dh is smitten and Dudley is staying. Bless dh!

Sometimes new companions can give elderly cats a new interest. When I left home, my Mother finally gave in to my sister's mithering for a dog. I disapproved as I was sure our 17 year old half-Siamese very grand cat would be upset. At first, the cat was indeed disapproving. Then she worked out she could use the dog as her slave. Nice and warm to sit on, her ally in doing dark deeds (dog was the muscle/height, cat was the brains, much food went missing...)

Within a year or two, sister had managed to acquire two kittens. Senior cat had got very elderly and very sleepy and grumpy. Not keen on kittens at first but then perked up and realised they were entertainment. Gave her a whole new lease of life.

Lovely story.

I love cats.

LST Mon 26-Aug-13 11:24:57

Awwwwh. lovely thread smile

timtam23 Mon 26-Aug-13 22:25:53

Oldest & grumpiest cat was touching noses with the kitten last night smile.

Tonight DH is out & the kitten has been snoozing so I've brought both oldies onto the sofa for a stroke, the blind one in particular needs some time spent with him as he can't see the kitten well enough to do the usual cat getting-to-know-you stuff.

Blind cat. sad

edam Mon 26-Aug-13 23:02:05

aw, love your oldest grumpiest cat touching noses with Dudley. Hope both older cats get on with him.

cozietoesie Mon 26-Aug-13 23:06:47

All sounds very positive, timtam. How is your blind cat reacting generally? (To the squeaks and bumps etc.)

timtam23 Mon 26-Aug-13 23:44:30

cozie he is being quite hypervigilant, sits at a distance with head poking forward & tail flicking a bit, trying to work out where the noise is coming from. He's nervous - he hissed at DH earlier, thinking the kitten was jumping on him, when DH accidentally stroked his tail. He isn't relaxed at all downstairs although we have kept the upstairs a kitten-free zone so far and he is ok up there, enjoys being stroked etc and he has been sleeping on my bed.

He has some central vision but at night or in dim light it's a lot harder for him, that's been evident for a few months now.

cozietoesie Mon 26-Aug-13 23:56:32

The kitten free zone should be a godsend to him. Good thinking on that.

Horsemad Tue 27-Aug-13 00:24:32

When we took in a cat last year, our old girl was deaf & blind. Luckily new cat was not a kitten and was remarkably well behaved around Little Old Lady Cat.

For the few months before we had to have Little Old Lady Cat put to sleep, they got on ok. Great idea to have a kitten free zone though.

Solo Tue 27-Aug-13 01:22:50

Now I'm not a cat person at all but that Dudley fella is just gorgeous!!! grin

DameDeepRedBetty Thu 29-Aug-13 22:28:24

Thank you for a LOVELY happy story, needed it after the Saga of SIL finally exploded last night!

BettyKitten arrived in our lives in a complicated sort of way, but not as complicated as Dudley's, he's rather similar to look at to BettyCat (as she is now), and it's brought back loads of wonderful memories.

wine to you timtam xxx

GibberTheMonkey Thu 29-Aug-13 22:55:49

I'm glad I've never found a kitten. I would have to keep it and as dh is severely allergic he would have to go. I quite like him so...
A puppy on the other hand

Now going to have a look at the gorgeous Dudley. Logging in properly especially

timtam23 Tue 03-Sep-13 21:58:34

It's so lovely to see people still posting on here. Dudley continues to do really well, he had his 1st injections today and he has put on 450g in 2 weeks! (he was only 700g when we got him). I'm not really surprised, as he has been eating nonstop, but when I thought about it I suppose he was very close to starving to death when found. DH wonders if he had perhaps realised that he had no hope of survival on his own and had crawled under our bonnet to take himself off to die...sad

I can't add any pics at the moment as Duds is asleep on my lap, but this afternoon he and my old blind cat were curled up asleep next to each other on the bed for a few hours - and blind cat definitely knew he was there. There is still a lot of hissing, and Duds keeps wacking their tails which they really hate, but I think the oldies are moving towards tolerating him which is all I had wanted.

cozietoesie Tue 03-Sep-13 22:01:14

Excellent news, timtam. It sounds as if they're reaching an accommodation.

Is DH his slave?

timtam23 Tue 03-Sep-13 22:04:24

Yes we are all his slaves but DH is the most slavish grin

DH is actually being really proactive with the attempts to get the cats more used to each other, he is trying to get the old ones used to sitting in the same room as Dudley when he is asleep (it's a bit much for them when he's awake and in one of his crazy bouncy play phases)

cozietoesie Tue 03-Sep-13 22:05:58

PS - the old blind cat will be coming to think that the tail whacking an chirupps are all there's going to be so will likely be relaxing gradually. And Dudley will just accept him as a bigger cat so hopefully won't aggress much if at all. The timing was pretty good, really.

cozietoesie Tue 03-Sep-13 22:06:51

'chirrups' - Gawd.

So glad he is doing well.

RosesInTheRain Tue 03-Sep-13 22:31:42

I don't even like cats that much but seeing the update has cheered me up after a crappy day. Glad he is doing well smile

timtam23 Tue 03-Sep-13 22:34:12

Thanks cozie and Exit, he is such a lovely little kitten and I still can't quite believe all the coincidences which led to the MOT being arranged for that particular day & him being found, I'm sure he would have died under that bonnet if left much longer. I wish he could talk, as we'll never know his story!

timtam23 Tue 03-Sep-13 22:35:14

Thanks Roses I hope you have a better day tomorrow! I can recommend kitten cuddles smile

timtam23 Tue 03-Sep-13 23:01:00

Dudley has nipped off my lap for his usual 11pm mad half hour so I've put another pic on my profile, of him and Old Cat asleep on the bed together, awww!

ExitPursuedByADragon Tue 03-Sep-13 23:33:27

Oh stop it! Sooooo jealous.

ExitPursuedByADragon Tue 03-Sep-13 23:35:08

Is that the blind cat? Loos like my treasured boy I lost at 12 months.

ExitPursuedByADragon Tue 03-Sep-13 23:35:25


timtam23 Wed 04-Sep-13 00:30:56

Yes Exit he is 17 now & I've had him since he was about the same size as Dudley (he was another stray). He is a beautiful cat and lovely-natured, his health has been on the decline since last year (thyroid removed then high blood pressure & started to lose his sight) but as long as his quality of life is ok we will nurse him along...

Horsemad Wed 04-Sep-13 09:12:05

Cute pic of him cuddled up with your old boy smile

RabbitsarenotHares Wed 04-Sep-13 13:40:24

That's such a lovely photo of the two of them. And I must say, Dudley looks much bigger and healthier! Yay!!!!!

Keep the updates coming!

puffinnuffin Sat 07-Sep-13 12:28:08

He looks beautiful- so glad you are keeping him. Lots of Rescue Centres round here are so full they can't take any more cats.

cozietoesie Mon 09-Sep-13 22:53:13

How's our favourite engine cat doing?

SomewhereBeyondTheSea Mon 09-Sep-13 23:21:33

Lovely thread :-)
I love a happy beginning (*not ending).

I acquired an accidental kitten about three months ago (moronic workmate of a friend bought a kitten an then changed his mind, pet shop wouldn't take it back). Was told it was a boy - vet had to tell me she's a girl shock

My cat (Her Majesty) was - and still is - Not Impressed. But they're gradually reaching an equilibrium.

Well done you both for taking him, he is ADORABLE!

timtam23 Tue 10-Sep-13 21:04:00

Hi cozie, Dudley is continuing to do very well, he has a lovely temperament. He is having escorted time in the back yard but needs close supervision as he keeps climbing the trellises and escaping over the wall! He is absolutely desperate to spend time outside and keeps mewing by the back door.

The old cats are fading away a bit though, I had to take my old female to the vet on Saturday as I thought she might be dying - she kept being sick and went to ground under the bed, very withdrawn. Turned out to be most likely a gastric upset from Metacam (she has arthritis and has been on a few trials of meds recently). She perked up over the weekend but has been very quiet and off food again today. Also Dudley sleeps a lot but when awake he really hassles the older 2, launching himself at them and they get very upset. There has been a bit of weeing on carpet but we are not sure which cat it was confused

The vet said it sounded like a nightmare trying to juggle the various health problems & the kitten, I have to say it seems relatively ok for us, I just wish the old cats could have a few days of peace and quiet to regroup, but with the kitten and 2 small children around that's unlikely to happen.

ExitPursuedByADragon Tue 10-Sep-13 21:53:04

Aw poor oldies.

I am sure they enjoy it really.

timtam23 Tue 10-Sep-13 22:03:19

Exit I'm pretty sure they aren't very impressed with any of it!

It's a shame for them, as we were quite content to pamper them through their final illnesses (old lady cat probably has months rather than years left, due to kidneys starting to pack up) but Dudley has kind of shifted the goal posts. We are making a fuss of them but can tell they're always wondering where the next attack will come from...

ExitPursuedByADragon Tue 10-Sep-13 22:07:31

I added the second sentence to be kind. I really feel for your old cats as I nursed my old girl through her dotage. Is there no way you can separate them?

cozietoesie Tue 10-Sep-13 22:12:41

Dudley 'feeling his oats', eh? (I said that once in a high powered meeting and all the men present started fumbling with their papers! )

The oldies will fade of course. It's the way of things.

timtam23 Tue 10-Sep-13 22:43:09

Yes, in a way it has helped to have Dudley as I was dreading having to watch the old ones gradually failing & having them put to sleep, it will still be hard after all these years but at least there will still be a cat around the house when they're gone.

cozie yes I think there is a bit of a power battle going on, and some kitten testosterone flowing wink

Exit our house is pretty small and with one of the cats being blind, it's hard to shut them away as the blind one gets confused if things change. We did keep Dudley downstairs when he first arrived, and the old cats had our bedroom as "theirs", but he's a lot bigger and stronger now so is running up & down stairs. When he's asleep, all is calm, but he's a demon when he's awake and just wants to play. I have an empty Feliway plug thing so I think I'll buy a refill to put in, it can't do any harm can it?

ExitPursuedByADragon Tue 10-Sep-13 22:46:05

It is just nature.

The young ousting the old.

My old girl learned to cope with BadrardDog.

timtam23 Tue 10-Sep-13 22:56:22

Yes, I suppose it's harder to watch because the old cats have been my pets from kittens, and the only pets I've ever had (apart from a couple of guinea pigs when I was 8!)

It would have been easier last year, when boy cat could see properly and lady cat was less stiff & sore.

Horsemad Tue 10-Sep-13 23:16:41

We took in a stray last year when our old blind, deaf, lady cat was in failing health.
When old lady cat was pts I was so glad we had the new cat to help us through it.

It's a year tomorrow since old lady cat left us sad but new cat has helped enormously.

cozietoesie Wed 11-Sep-13 09:48:03

How is your old girl today, timtam ?

timtam23 Wed 11-Sep-13 20:40:17

Thanks for asking cozie, she has perked up a bit again and ran to meet me when I came home from work, and was keen to have some food

DH says she's been under the bed all day, I think that's her place of refuge from Dudley

I guess we are going to have good & bad days with her and she isn't going to bounce back quickly, because of her age

The old blind boy cat seems to be getting on better now though and is a bit more relaxed

Dudley wants to sit on DH's lap 24/7!

cozietoesie Wed 11-Sep-13 20:54:10

That is one bright cat! Is DH nonchalant about it?

timtam23 Wed 11-Sep-13 21:04:55

DH was apparently a bit fed up with Duds today as he was trying to get lots of things done around the house & Duds kept shinning up his trouser leg grin

But yes they are getting on fine, and DH has been taking him into the yard & sitting with him a lot to get him used to being outside (lessons postponed today due to rain!)

cozietoesie Wed 11-Sep-13 21:11:02

That will be an 'apparently'. (The reality is that he'll be loving it.)


DifferentNow Wed 11-Sep-13 21:15:51

Oh, he is lovely. Poor little mite.

cozietoesie Fri 13-Sep-13 23:21:51

How is our Dudley?


timtam23 Fri 13-Sep-13 23:40:06

He is falling asleep on DH (again) grin

Getting livelier, much to the disgust of the other 2 - the poorly one really hates being ambushed, we're trying to protect her as best we can.

I'm glad we've got him now though, I was dreading the old ones dying but we will still have Dudley.

cozietoesie Fri 13-Sep-13 23:44:21

Yep - livelier with more food, then a bit more sedate with some extra months, then off like a teenager again with hormones, then calmer with the snip, then.....then......

They're a roller coaster ride.

ZebraOwl Mon 16-Sep-13 02:31:21

Glad Dudley's doing so well & I hope the older cats stop finding him such a menace soon...

timtam23 Mon 16-Sep-13 16:29:14

Zebra we have sadly had to have the oldest cat put to sleep today due to old age & kidney failure. But it may mean that the remaining old cat settles better with the kitten. Old boy has been a lot more relaxed in the last few days and my Feliway order has just arrived as well (bought mainly for the deceased cat's benefit but will plug it in anyway and see what happens)

ExitPursuedByADragon Mon 16-Sep-13 16:31:44

Sorry to hear that timtam23 Always heartbreaking when you have to let one go.

cozietoesie Mon 16-Sep-13 16:32:59

Very sorry, timtam. You did the right thing though from the sound of it.


timtam23 Mon 16-Sep-13 16:37:19

Thank you Exit and cozie

I have written a massive post on the "kidney failure" thread as a kind of debrief! But maybe Dudley turning up a few weeks ago was meant to be! Old girl was never going to survive much longer, I have to be realistic about that.

cozietoesie Mon 16-Sep-13 16:47:53

I rather think it was meant to be. He arrived out of the blue after all - all you did was give him shelter.

Horsemad Mon 16-Sep-13 18:59:03

Oh timtam sad

Sorry to hear about your cat, it's horrible when they get old & we have to make these decisions.

I agree, I do think Dudley's arrival was meant to be smile As I said upthread, my new cat definitely helped soften the blow of our old girl going.

Hope your remaining oldie settles - sounds like he is.

timtam23 Mon 16-Sep-13 20:32:46

Thank you Horsemad, I remember you saying that your cat had died and the kitten had helped. I've had a few wobbles today, mainly when I think about never seeing her again, or wishing that we'd taken more photos of her, but it's hard to stay very very sad when Dudley is around, he's so funny.

Horsemad Mon 16-Sep-13 21:11:15

Yes, it's a very raw feeling when you lose a beloved pet timtam sad

Be kind to yourself & enjoy Dudley's antics, your cat had a lovely life with you and now it's time for another little cat to experience that.

timtam23 Mon 16-Sep-13 21:32:36

thank you again

Just for completeness I have put a photo of her on my profile. I know I'm biased but she was - is - beautiful.

ExitPursuedByADragon Mon 16-Sep-13 21:34:31

Gosh. The fluffy one? She really is lovely.

Horsemad Mon 16-Sep-13 21:44:56

Aww, what a lovely cat smile

ZebraOwl Tue 17-Sep-13 09:37:57

Oh timtam, I'm so sorry to hear this. I hope that Dudley's presence is comforting for you & also for your older boy - hopefully the Feliway will help them negotiate their relationship with a minimum of drama-fuss.

Be gentle with yourself flowers

(Oh & all of your cats look incredible beautiful in the pics on your profile.)

timtam23 Tue 17-Sep-13 23:29:33

Thank you for the lovely comments, of course I have always thought that the old girl was the most beautiful cat but it's nice that others think so too!

Dudley and the old boy have been having a few sparring sessions since yesterday, hopefully this will settle down soon as I don't want old boy to completely lose confidence - we are trying to keep some safe places for him but can't change things around too much because of his poor eyesight

He is wanting to spend more time with us, he used to mostly be upstairs asleep with the old girl but must be missing her presence although they were never close.

cozietoesie Tue 17-Sep-13 23:35:48

The dynamic of the household will have changed with your old girl's passing so there will likely be some 'renegotiation' going on. Is it bad sparring or more along the lines of noises and biffing?

timtam23 Tue 17-Sep-13 23:45:38

Cozie it is hissing and biffing. Dudley is clearly trying to provoke old boy, not sure if it's merely playful or trying to assert himself in the pecking order. Old boy is actually holding his own, considering he really can't see at all well. But he's clearly unsure what's going on, is crouching a bit, tail is swishing etc which unfortunately is just what Dudley loves to pounce on. It's not quite what we'd planned for old boy, who was going to have a calm peaceful old age with no massive changes in his life!

They're both asleep with us now though, Duds on sofa & old boy in DH's chair so we do have large chunks of normality as well.

cozietoesie Tue 17-Sep-13 23:48:08

Lots of love and taste treats for the old boy - which you'd have been giving him anyway I'm sure. It doesn't sound too bad, I think.

timtam23 Tue 17-Sep-13 23:54:00

Yes he is getting lots of strokes and a few treats (he is a bit fat at the moment!) I also mix his blood pressure tablet into some luxury cat food which he loves. I'm hopeful it will settle down, old girl was a shadow of her former self but she was previously a formidable character & still ruled the roost over old boy so I guess a bit of a tussle is to be expected now that she's gone

Thanks for the advice cozie

cozietoesie Wed 18-Sep-13 00:06:41

I would be fairly optimistic. Dudley is so very young after all and if you see a kitten with its mother, you'd be surprised that she doesn't give him a sideways flip more often - through sheer exasperation. Tails are a favourite play thing. It's complicated by old cat's eyesight which will make him more nervous.

Fingers crossed anyway. Maybe you could try exhausting Dudley a bit with more games from household members - laser pointers and such like.

timtam23 Wed 18-Sep-13 23:18:15

Dudley has started to bring us his "kills" from his forays into the back yard

First - an old piece of string.
Next - A shrivelled old runner bean
Last night - A worm (alive) grin

He could prove quite useful, I could train him to trap all the slugs

cozietoesie Wed 18-Sep-13 23:20:59


Remind me - has he had his full vaccination course?

timtam23 Wed 18-Sep-13 23:24:41

He is not quite old enough for the 2nd vacc yet - vet said 12 weeks minimum so I was going to take him next week

Should we be more careful that he doesn't pick up the worms?

cozietoesie Wed 18-Sep-13 23:34:01

He ought to be kept inside until he's finished his full first course. I know that, for all you know, he spent the first 7 weeks of his life living in a gutter but no sense in exposing him unprotected any more than absolutely necessary.

timtam23 Wed 18-Sep-13 23:37:11

OK thanks cozie

The outside stuff is instigated by DH who is around far more than I am but I will ask him to keep Dudley inside

cozietoesie Wed 18-Sep-13 23:37:49

PS - sorry that would be his second jab plus about a week.

Shall you be getting him chipped next week as well?

cozietoesie Wed 18-Sep-13 23:39:19

DH will be wanting 'his boy' to go outside and do 'manly outdoor types of things'. Been there!

timtam23 Wed 18-Sep-13 23:55:12

Yes the vet did say he would not be fully protected until a week or so after the 2nd vacc

And yes he's being chipped as well (he was too small when I took him for the 1st jab)

You have hit the nail on the head about DH, that's almost exactly what he said, word for word! He wants a "proper cat" rather than the "spoilt" ones I "pampered" (old boy cat and the recently-deceased old girl) hmm

cozietoesie Wed 18-Sep-13 23:58:36


He's obviously bonded very strongly with him. smile

(Remember in a couple of months or so, not to discuss Dudley's snip with him. wink Just go ahead and make the appointment.)

timtam23 Thu 19-Sep-13 00:04:07

Yes this is the man who, on first seeing Dudley, said we couldn't possibly keep him wink

They are now inseparable

good advice about the snip grin

HoopersGinger Thu 19-Sep-13 00:07:36

Thought Nissan was a cool name smile

Scarletohello Thu 19-Sep-13 00:13:01

Funny to think of a cat being 'manly', they're such their own creatures! Enjoying hearing about further adventures of Dudley, big fan!

Horsemad Thu 19-Sep-13 07:03:02

smile at your DH & Dudley being inseparable .

My DH is obsessed with our stray, he spends more time gazing adoringly at her than he ever did with me!
The feeling's mutual btw, I've never seen a cat who loves her human as much as she loves him. They're made for each other!

ZebraOwl Fri 20-Sep-13 02:35:42

Glad Dudley's bonding so well with your DH - hope he accepts that he can play active games with Dudley indoors for now & outdoor fun can continue as soon as it's safe for Dudley without a fuss wink

It's so lovely to hear a happy ending to this story - well, a happy middle, really? But yay, anyway grin

timtam23 Fri 20-Sep-13 21:11:44

Well, DH left Dudley outside when he went to do the school pickup today, Duds was out unattended for maybe 30-45 minutes and DH then removed the flap of the cat flap this evening so that Duds could run in & out (I've reassembled the cat flap because I didn't want Dudley doing this and also there was a freezing gale blowing through the house)

I grumbled about him leaving the house with Dudley on his own in the yard but was told I'm being "controlling" - I don't think an 11 week old kitten should be outside indefinitely with no one watching him, maybe I'm a bit overprotective but he's just starting to explore & jump up quite high and if he got lost he has no chip yet, no collar or tag, we may not get him back. Not to mention the road which isn't that busy but at school run time there are more cars going up and down.

DH is a bit of a law unto himself & I don't think he's going to change what he's doing so I'm getting it off my chest here

Fluffycloudland77 Fri 20-Sep-13 21:25:51

11 weeks? Snack size then for a fox.

I bet you could lamp your dh. Sil was like this with one of her cats, who is now in a shallow grave with a shrub planted over him.

cozietoesie Fri 20-Sep-13 21:33:45

Words almost fail me. You'll have to be stronger, timtam. You're Dudley's protrectress now - and it's a nasty old world out there for a little 'un.

ExitPursuedByADragon Fri 20-Sep-13 21:39:16

He will be fine.

<spreads hopefulness and calm>

ZebraOwl Fri 20-Sep-13 21:41:15

Maybe you could point your DH in our direction. And we can explain (in simple small words or excessively long ones) exactly why what he's doing is so spectacularly stupid it is making my brain hurt. Maybe if you make him sleep in the garden tonight he'll see the error of his ways? wink

I can't believe no one's said this yes. LTB - obviously! smile

timtam23 Fri 20-Sep-13 22:21:05

Catneuterer - LTB? not sure what that means?

DH has a very fixed view that Dudley is not little and doesn't need "pampering", the old cats were apparently "pampered" (by me, as I had them for 10 yrs before meeting DH) and history is not to repeat itself. I do think an 11-weeker needs an eye kept on him, but I'm out for a lot of the week and so it has to be DH who does most of the tender loving care hmm

99% of the time yes, he will probably be fine. But I don't want him to have an accident because of DH leaving him on his own. DH says "overprotective", "ridiculous" etc etc and I know cats have to take their chances but I think kittens, when they are so tiny they need a bit of supervision. DH says at 11 weeks Dudley is no longer tiny hmm again

cozietoesie Fri 20-Sep-13 22:23:36

He'll likely take it from you if you stamp your foot and do the 'Momma' bit. I think you have to - for a few weeks at least. The sight of a kitten/young cat in the stages of one of the main diseases is enough to strike horror into anyone's heart.

'LTB' = leave the bastard (it's the stock response to most things in 'Relationships').

11 weeks is still tiny. He should be pampered all his life till at least five months.

Fluffycloudland77 Fri 20-Sep-13 23:16:14

I know what it's like with stubborn men. I defeat dh with logic and cold, hard science.

My favourite response is "don't make me google it".

timtam23 Tue 24-Sep-13 21:31:31

Dudley is now fully vaccinated, wormed and microchipped, I feel a bit better now about him getting out as at least he will be traceable if he escapes

Although I'm still asking DH not to let him into the yard, especially as his vaccines won't fully kick in for another week, but it's going into one ear and out the other hmm

Nearly fell off the sofa yesterday when DH suggested getting another kitten to keep Dudley company (he thought it might distract Duds from attacking playing with the old blind boy)

cozietoesie Tue 24-Sep-13 21:37:32

Instead of which it might give him a partner in crime. That happened to us once when we had two kittens - they gave each other extra courage to go up in tandem against the existing (fully sighted) cat.

timtam23 Tue 24-Sep-13 21:46:06

Cozie we talked about it a bit - DH reasoned that 3 cats were no more work for us than 2 - but we thought the same as you about ganging up, also that there would be no guarantee that 2 non-sib kittens would get along with each other in the long term (have already done this with the old girl although she was a fair bit older, 12 months, when I got the old boy, who was then 2-3 months old - it took a long time for them all to settle down).

The old boy is holding his own at the moment but we don't want him to be unhappy in his twilight months

It's been a long long time since I had only 1 cat - the first year of having the old girl - and I think that would be just fine for us with Dudley after the old boy dies, he is a very affectionate kitten as well so needs a lot of attention and might be best in a single-cat household in any case

cozietoesie Tue 24-Sep-13 22:00:59

Yes - the old boy deserves as much peace and quiet as possible in his sunset time, eh?

timtam23 Tue 24-Sep-13 22:06:59

Absolutely smile he is a lovely cat and all he wants is a quiet life and as much food as possible!
Hopefully Dudley will slow down a bit soon and stop the ambushing, I also have 2 Feliway plugins and the old boy does seem to spend a lot of time near one of them, so maybe they do work (was never convinced by them in the past)

ZebraOwl Tue 24-Sep-13 23:02:19

Do you think you can get your DH to understand that Dudley roaming wild & free before he is [ideally chipped&]snipped could end very badly indeed? Lay it on superthick with how as soon as he hits puberty he will be leaping off to make as many little Dudleys as he can. (Which could be a LOT of Little Dudleys!) Does he want to add to the problem of overflowing rescues & tiny kittens dying because they don't have somewhere safe to stay... Sometimes emotional blackmail is totally justifiable, right?

ExitPursuedByADragon Tue 24-Sep-13 23:23:40

Can I borrow your DH?

timtam23 Tue 24-Sep-13 23:25:49

Zebra I have done all of that and more. Honestly I have. I don't want a feisty entire male kitten roaming around, I don't want more strays. DH used to volunteer at the local independent animal rescue shelter, he knows the score. Dudley himself was in a pitiful state when we found him and it could so easily have ended very horribly for him. But I'm out at work for most of the week and DH does what he does, I can only say my piece again and again. I have just talked to him about it again and he clearly thinks I'm nagging

Dudley is chipped now and I asked the vet today what was the earliest they would castrate him, they said 4 1/2 - 5 months so he will be in as soon as the vet agrees it's ok to go ahead

I still think he would be very little to be roaming around at that age & I'm worried he'll have no road sense at all (I kept my Precious First Cat in until 6 months old and she justified my overprotectiveness by surviving until age 18 smile)

I will keep talking to DH about it but he already laughs whenever I mention MN

timtam23 Tue 24-Sep-13 23:26:37

Exit why on earth would you want my DH? grin

ExitPursuedByADragon Tue 24-Sep-13 23:28:32

Because he wants more cats. I have to ride rough shod over my DH.

cozietoesie Tue 24-Sep-13 23:31:38

Yes - I wouldn't, myself, take the approach of talking about roaming wild and free and partying with anything that moves. It could be a tad counter productive.

4 1/2 months sounds good.


timtam23 Tue 24-Sep-13 23:31:47

Yes you can have him! Then I can cosset Dudley without anyone grumbling that I'm turning him "soft"

But don't let him near any kittens grin

timtam23 Tue 24-Sep-13 23:38:41

I think around here most cat owners are pretty responsible and get their cats spayed/castrated, also I don't tend to see stray cats hanging around (still no sign of any cat likely to be Dudley's mum). I guess the problem would be if there was a female kitten allowed out before being old enough for spaying, and she & Duds got together.

I'm thinking more about Dudley being allowed out very young before vaccinations kick in and before he is old enough to have a bit more sense around roads/people/the local cats & other animals. Also the fireworks season will start soon & he needs an introduction to that from inside the house I think (although not too bad in the immediate area as most people have small yards rather than gardens, so not enough room for massive fireworks displays)

cozietoesie Tue 24-Sep-13 23:41:19

You'll be keeping him in at nights?

timtam23 Tue 24-Sep-13 23:47:29

Yes, definitely keeping in at night now & in the future - the cat flap is locked to stop him getting out that way

We're not in the habit of having cats roaming around at night any more, old boy liked to go out for a prowl before bedtime but since he went blind he tends to hang around the house, and I don't like them out at night because of the higher risk of being hit by a car

ZebraOwl Wed 25-Sep-13 00:05:38

Ech. It sounds like a v tough situation (& wasn't meaning to imply I thought you'd not done your utmost, sorry!) & I don't envy you one bit. (It is so frustrating when women's concerns get dismissed/invalidated as "nagging", too: rawrgh!) Is there any chance you could get the vet to speak to him about it? Hopefully the worsening weather might make Dudley less inclined to play outside & there'll be less time for outdoor play with daylight hours so swiftly shortening.

Maybe you could try making sleep-hypnosis tapes specially for your DH to change his mindset. How soundly does he sleep...?

timtam23 Wed 25-Sep-13 21:23:10

That's ok Zebra, it's nice to have this thread for me to rant on grin - as you've said, the weather hasn't been great here today so the cats & DH were inside. Duds is copying the old blind boy who spends 23 1/2 hours of each day snoozing grin

cozietoesie Wed 25-Sep-13 21:29:19

I've always found great mileage in 'trying to force them outside' (taking them to the door and trying to push their backside) when the rain is going sideways or there's snow lying. Nothing gets a cat's back up quicker than being told to do something that they don't fancy.

ZebraOwl Wed 25-Sep-13 23:54:31

Let's hope that Dudley continues to copy the example of his Senior. He has so much growing to do he prolly needs a LOT of sleep, especially after such a difficult start to life. My two are sleeping more than usual at the moment, I guess they think it's the best way to cope with it being cold&dark...

timtam23 Thu 03-Oct-13 23:17:56

Just in case anyone is still following this thread, I've put another updated pic of Dudley on my profile - aged 13 weeks
He is doing really well and is a delight, although he is still hassling old boy cat quite a bit (old boy is a bit fed up but does seem to realise that Duds is playing rather than genuinely fighting with him)

ExitPursuedByADragon Thu 03-Oct-13 23:19:17

Bless. He looks gorgeous.

Aww he's looking less kitten more baby cat IYKWIM. He's lovely.

He's gorgeous! Knows it as well, doesn't he? smile

timtam23 Thu 03-Oct-13 23:23:16

Thank you, yes he is lovely and so affectionate. I looked again at the fluffy kitten pic I took on the first afternoon we had him, and he has changed so much! I think he may grow quite large as his legs are long and he has a very thick bushy tail for his size. Or maybe all kittens go through a stage of being all legs & tail?!

cozietoesie Thu 03-Oct-13 23:34:48

Oh he is handsome.

I also think that he has the look of a soon-to-be large cat about him. It's going to be a question of whether your feeding overcomes his dreadful start I reckon.

timtam23 Thu 03-Oct-13 23:46:37

Cozie he is eating absolutely loads and is putting on weight at above average rate (he was 1.5kg at 12 weeks) so maybe he will reach his full potential grin
All of my cats have been large (in build rather than in their degree of fatness!)
Dudley's tail looks like a snow leopard's a lot of the time, it is so thick & bushy and he waves it around in a desperate attempt to balance smile

ZebraOwl Fri 04-Oct-13 06:31:14

Yay Dudley!

My two have outdone the vet's best hopes for them (they're like an incredible advert for high-quality food!) so Dudley might well do the same smile

Caitlin17 Sun 06-Oct-13 23:11:07

Ah, bless. Dudley is a lucky boy to have found you.

Horsemad Mon 07-Oct-13 20:23:04

Oh he's just gorgeous! I love when they're all gangly limbed - bit like teenagers growing into their long arms &legs grin

From his head he looks like he might grow up to be a big boy!

cozietoesie Mon 07-Oct-13 20:25:01

I reckon so - as we were discussing, though, just depends if he can overcome that dreadful start. Sounds as if he's getting there.

Fluffycloudland77 Mon 07-Oct-13 20:44:17

The ginger cat looks like he's pretending not to like the company.

cozietoesie Mon 07-Oct-13 20:48:34

That's the old blind boy. He's doing pretty well in the circumstances I reckon. (Dudley pouncing on his tail suddenly etc.)


cozietoesie Mon 07-Oct-13 20:49:35

But yes, I agree - it does look rather like a 'pretend' doesn't it? wink

Fluffycloudland77 Mon 07-Oct-13 21:19:16

I've had four cats under one roof who all disliked each other. There was no co-sleeping going on.

Dh's company found a cat under a bonnet once. He didn't keep it, they took it back to where the customer lived and I have no closure.

timtam23 Mon 07-Oct-13 21:32:11

Horsemad his head is a little bit out of proportion in the photo as I was standing above him, but he is definitely a gangly-limbed boy! My parents met him for the first time at the weekend and said, without any prompting, that he looked as if he would grow up to be quite big.

The old blind ginger boy is doing ok, still getting biffed by Dudley but it seems to be playing rather than aggression, he is often wanting attention form the old boy. Because old boy can't see where the next biff's coming from he's a bit wary but he has his greater weight & height on his side & is hitting back & holding Dudley down to show who's the boss

Really important that they get this sorted out now I think, as Duds may well be bigger and stronger than him before too long and completely dominate

They are both asleep next to me on the sofa this evening so clearly a truce has been called smile

cozietoesie Mon 07-Oct-13 21:34:47

All that sounds quite avuncular. I reckon they'll be fine.


timtam23 Mon 07-Oct-13 21:41:29

I feel quite disloyal to the old girl cat but it has been easier since she died, old boy has come out of his shell a bit and is spending more time with us so hopefully he will be able to tolerate his twilight years with Duds

DH asked me about how things were all those years ago when old boy was a kitten and in fact he was just the same as Dudley, made the old girl's life a misery for a few months then they all decided to live & let live

cozietoesie Mon 07-Oct-13 21:46:22

Old boy will know that Dudley's a kitten. Even males will put up with a lot from them - and then the relationship is formed.

ZebraOwl Mon 07-Oct-13 21:50:06

Awww... It does sound as though they're sorting things out amicably. Don't feel bad for being relieved things are simpler: that's not at all the same as being glad your old girl's gone/being somehow disloyal to her.

It's been so nice to hear about Dudley's journey from kitten-in-car to newest-smallest timtamfeline smile

timtam23 Mon 07-Oct-13 22:00:24

I am a bit addicted to my own thread but I agree it has been such a happy story and Dudley is a lovely little thing, came to us at just the right time I think smile

Scarletohello Mon 07-Oct-13 22:10:12

Aw just read through the whole thread ( after seeing it in active ). Such a lovely story...makes me v happy to read about it! smile

timtam23 Mon 07-Oct-13 22:14:31

Wow well done Scarlet it's a long one to read all the way through!

Horsemad Mon 07-Oct-13 22:17:56

I did wonder about the photo angle timtam! He is so handsome smile Beautiful Boy.

ZebraOwl Mon 07-Oct-13 22:24:58

It is a very lovely tale (tail?) & it is so nice to hear Happy Cat Stories. It does seem as though he was very definitely Meant to be yours. He's such a lucky little chap to have come through things unscathed & found himself a loving new home.

Catmint Mon 07-Oct-13 22:32:18

Hi tim tam, Dudley looks lovely! And so big!

DidoTheDodo Tue 08-Oct-13 12:16:13

Juts read all the way through this's a whole fabulous story (Apart from having to have the old girl pts - so sorry about that.) Dudley is very beautiful and I am laughing at how your DH has been "turned".

Horsemad Tue 08-Oct-13 12:34:03

I've told DH about Dudley and shown him the pics, he was quite misty eyed! Soppy cat lover he is. smile

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