Oh Holy Crap! Cat has just brought in LIVE MUTANT RAT!

(86 Posts)
SarahLundKicksAss Mon 25-Feb-13 19:23:17

... and has cornered it behind the wardrobe in the spare bedroom. I have locked offending cat in the room, but beyond that WTF can I do?

(I'm not 100% sure whether the rat is a mutant, but it's flippin' big!)

BrianCoxandTheTempleofDOOM Mon 25-Feb-13 19:25:09

Is the cat safe? Rats can cause damage.

I'm no use to you though, I've just lifted my feet off the floor at the mere thought of a rat in the house.

Good luck though <helpful> wink

will the cat kill it?
if not you could run around singing "theres a rat in the bedroom what'm I gonna do, theres a rat in the bedroom what'm I gonna do"

<seriously unhelpful answer>

BrianCoxandTheTempleofDOOM Mon 25-Feb-13 19:31:02

call a pest controller? If you aren't able to deal with it then that is a sensible option (in penance for my silly reply earlier!)

They are incontinent and full of germs, you will have to scrub your spare room clean (the rats, not the pest controller) sad

I know cats are capable of killing rats but the rat will put up a good fight - check cat for scratch/bite marks and get to the vets for a check up if any are found.

If your cat is anything like mine, the fun is in the chase, once caught they lose interest and leave me to pick up the half dead pieces [vom]

OutsideOverThere Mon 25-Feb-13 19:31:06

have you got a gun?

OutsideOverThere Mon 25-Feb-13 19:32:17

or a small terrier type dog.

OutsideOverThere Mon 25-Feb-13 19:32:34

Or can you borrow one or the other from a neighbour?

BrianCoxandTheTempleofDOOM Mon 25-Feb-13 19:33:08

<backs away from Outside and her gun toting ways>

wink

I have a spaniel you could borrow
...and 3 more cats

<tries to be more helpful after first post>

BrianCoxandTheTempleofDOOM Mon 25-Feb-13 19:36:19

I'm worried for OP's welfare - she hasn't come back.

(I would die if a rat came in my house. I can only just cope with maimed mice and birds that my little bastards darlings bring me)

Aww, poor rat. I'm very fond of them myself (and I do understand I'm in the minority). If you leave the doors open for a while it will probably find it's way out. Or you can buy humane traps from B&Q, he wallks in, the door shuts and then you can take him outside and let him go.

Shybairns Mon 25-Feb-13 19:38:59

I'd call Rentokil pronto!

QOD Mon 25-Feb-13 19:41:16

I'll send my cat round

Little bastard keeps waking me up in the night and I find him just sitting. Just sitting and staring blankly at walls.

<scares the shit out of me>

Oh and umm he might kill a rat possibly

BrianCoxandTheTempleofDOOM Mon 25-Feb-13 19:41:49

thecat I don't mind pet rats, but sewer rats shock <hoiks petticoat and stands on chair>

cozietoesie Mon 25-Feb-13 19:42:13

If the rat is seriously big, and unless your cat is an established and very proficient hunter, I'd guess the rat was ill. I wouldn't let the cat catch or eat it in case it's being poisoned.

All this rat hate. I don't get it. If they had fluffy tails and a cuter sounding name I'm sure they'd have better PR. Admittedly you probably don't want them living in your house, but I'm sure his intention isn't to leap out from behind the wardrobe and sink his teeth into your leg.

BrianCoxandTheTempleofDOOM Mon 25-Feb-13 19:48:08

but I'm sure his intention isn't to leap out from behind the wardrobe and sink his teeth into your leg.

but he might......!!

I do feel sorry for the rat, don't get me wrong - it was probably minding it's own business and then a cat comes along and bam. HOwever, it is currently peeing and pooing all over her room! Germs people, germs! <stands back on chair>

What cozie says though is a good point. My friend lost her 18 month old boy last week, heart failure due to rat poison sad I imagine he had caught/killed/ate a rat.

SarahLundKicksAss Mon 25-Feb-13 19:51:45

Oh my goodness! the room is Ds's; he's away at uni (he may not want to come back again if he knows the shenanigans that have taken place in his room). I daren't go in..... the whole situation isn't helped as I've hurt my back, so am not very mobile (and will therefore be unable to run away if the giant rat runs towards me...)

why are rats notoriously incontinent? Isn't that a bit of a design flaw?

Thanks BrianCox, for the mention of sewers; that's made me feel a lot better shock

I will venture upstairs and listen outside the door....

tabulahrasa Mon 25-Feb-13 19:56:59

'why are rats notoriously incontinent? Isn't that a bit of a design flaw?'

Only if you're not a rat, I don't think they're that bothered about peeing on your floor, lol.

I've got a humane mousetrap somewhere, but it'd not fit a normal rat in it nevermind a mutant one.

BrianCoxandTheTempleofDOOM Mon 25-Feb-13 20:01:06

oh yeah, sorry OP....maybe it is more of a hedge/forest rat?? <attempts soothing back track>

Ok, do you have a laundry basket (plastic one - not a big wicker one obv).

If so, can you go into the room (closing all other open doors in case it does make a run for it) and trap it?

Just thinking what I would try and do which is a bit useless. In all honesty, I'd be calling Rentokill or similar.

SarahLundKicksAss Mon 25-Feb-13 20:02:11

I have let bastard cat out of the room - she's now asking for food (hah - no way jose!) and has completely forgotten the whole rat incident. I have shut the door and shoved a towel up against it (there's a gap underneath and I'm worried that it will squeeze itself through in the middle of the night. I will buy a rat trap tomorrow. We quite often get mice in, and they het chased behind the furniture and die. Maybe the rat will do the same?

Guess I'm in for a great night's sleep tonight!

BerryLellow Mon 25-Feb-13 20:05:35

I thought it was mice that are incontinent? rats have toilet areas, where you find all their droppings piled up. which was under our bath in our old place <boak>

I'd get the cat out tbh, it's probably been brought back to you as a prize, not to be killed and eaten. I too have useless pets grin

Buy a humane trap - if you don't care about killing the rat do it for yourself. Surely it's got to be better to just be able to carry the trap outside, open the door and let it run off than to have to deal with a squashed rat. And what if it's only a bit squashed and in terrible pain, what would you do then? Really humane traps are better all round.

BerryLellow Mon 25-Feb-13 20:08:05

The pest control chap told me traps take a while to work as rats are neophobic, so take ages to go into something unfamiliar.

tabulahrasa Mon 25-Feb-13 20:08:45

Also I use a humane trap because it seems somehow wrong to squash a mouse after a cat's brought it home...

I still think that leaving doors open and perhaps guiding it out with a broom would be the easiest

onyx72 Mon 25-Feb-13 20:10:49

rats are vermin.

call pest control asap.

Trazzletoes Mon 25-Feb-13 20:11:57

catneuterer when I came across rats in my old compost bin, I was led to believe that it is illegal to release a live rat in to the wild with them being vermin and all. I thought if it was caught it had to be murderised.

I've a feeling that might well be true, but who is going to know? Rats do no harm at all living outside, and I'm sure it was doing no harm at all living wherever it came from. And anyway all the term 'vermin' really means is animals that humans find inconvenient.

blondieminx Mon 25-Feb-13 20:19:33

<shudder>

Right, remove cat from room as if the rat was slow enough to be caught its prob half dead from poisoning which works by dissolving its innards. You don't want moggy eating it.

Can you put out a plea on fb "horrible moggy has brought in a RAT - urgently need a trap can anyone help at this time as obv the shops are closed...HELP!"

If you can, bait the trap with peanut butter and chocolate. Homebase sell v effective traps.

We had one in our garage last winter, yuuuuuuk.

FairPhyllis Mon 25-Feb-13 20:28:17

Rats are so much bigger than you'd think - I have mistaken one for a cat in the past. Can you fashion a rat guidance system using furniture to funnel it to an outside exit? Then arm yourself with wellies and a broom and chase it out?

flamingtoaster Mon 25-Feb-13 20:46:27

This is about why rats pee everywhere: http://www.ratbehavior.org/WhyDoRatsPee.htm

You could try a large wastepaper basket to trap it and then slide a flat tray underneath and use the same method we use for spiders (but with a yoghurt pot - thank goodness we don't have spiders that need a wastepaper basket - <feels faint at the thought>). If you chickened out at that point (i.e. didn't feel up to carrying it out) then it would be contained for the pest controller and would only be peeing in one place.

I would put something solid against the gap under the door - I would worry a towel would be enough.

SarahLundKicksAss Mon 25-Feb-13 20:50:41

We (that's me and DD - she's braver than I!) have tried the whole "ushering it out", but with little success. Plan B is now to leave it overnight and contact pest control tomorrow morning. i have the day from hell at work, so not sure how I can fit in pest control man, but it must be done! I just hope DS's room is gap free, because i can't bear the thought of it getting elsewhere in the house.

Have applied flea control to the cat as a precautionary measure! I guess the room will need a thorough cleaning once the deed is done.

Oh, hot water has also stopped working - nothing to do with the rat, so this is turning out to be a fine old week!

SarahLundKicksAss Mon 25-Feb-13 20:51:50

Yes, good point flamingtoaster, I will beef up the rat containment defences.

Bastard, bastard cat.

BrianCoxandTheTempleofDOOM Mon 25-Feb-13 20:56:59

I bet the cat is all "Sorry? What? A rat???? What on earth are you on about minion? Now, feed me wench!"

Fluffycloudland77 Mon 25-Feb-13 21:23:39

Cats are a bit rubbish really aren't they? Complete lack of follow through on important rat catching expeditions.

Hassled Mon 25-Feb-13 21:27:15

No advice but a load of sympathy. I think I would just move into the local Travel Lodge until someone big and brave came along and dealt with it - just knowing that rats exist makes me want to cry a bit.

NomNomDePlumPudding Mon 25-Feb-13 21:29:52

not a good idea to pit cat against rat, really, the rat will probably hurt your cat. if you know someone with a terrier, it would deal with the rat in about one minute (but do not let the dog eat the rat in case it is poisoned). you could get pest control, but a terrier would be cheaper and probably quicker for the poor beast.

SarahLundKicksAss Mon 25-Feb-13 22:42:18

Going to bed now. All quiet in the rat den. Will phone pest control in the morning. Nighty night!

bastard, bastarding cat is asleep

Elkieb Mon 25-Feb-13 22:45:59

I don't know if this has been said before but at least it's not a rat in the kitchen. Oh yes, my jokes are that good!

Lonecatwithkitten Mon 25-Feb-13 22:53:24

I'll send round the tiny tail less wonder she is a demon rat killer regularly killing rats that are over a third of her own body weight. They were so large I weighed some of them 1.5 kg ! And the Tail less weighs 3.3kg! She never eats them just kills for fun.

TheSilveryPussycat Tue 26-Feb-13 00:44:18

Go into room taking with you some large empty wellies. Shut door. Distribute wellies around room. Disturb rat. Watch which welly it goes in. Scoop up welly. Rush outside. Release rat.

<disclaimer: only tested on mice. DCat, in her mighty hunter days, brought home rats with a fatal bite wound into the ribcage [argh], so they were alive but dying, and she would then take them away and eat them.>

PS I also love rats, and have had many pet ones pre DCat, but life is red in tooth and claw with a hunting cat.

ThatVikRinA22 Tue 26-Feb-13 00:51:07

can you not just don some gardening gloves and pick it up? or chase it out?

im sure it will be fairly scared and ready to run if it has an escape route to the outside. (open front door etc)

i have cats and dogs - i still take mice off them if they are just caught....rats and mice dont bother me at all.....i dont kill them though. i have never had any bother when the cats have brought a lone mouse or rat in - always just put it back out, usually without gloves. never been bitten. could be luck but they know when you are helping them!

zzzzz Tue 26-Feb-13 00:58:43

DON'T TRY TO PICK IT UP <faints>

It could cause a lot of damage even in one night. We had one that chewed through a water tank. £200 on rentokil later, half a kitchen ceiling and plumber £160, it is deal with.

I'd kill I with a spade, but then I don't have a terrier.

TheSilveryPussycat Tue 26-Feb-13 02:24:12

Friend of mine caught a rat a while ago. He lay in wait and managed to trap it in a saucepan...

florencerose Tue 26-Feb-13 02:43:03

wish I had gone to bed about 5 minutes ago

issey6cats Tue 26-Feb-13 14:01:20

being as the rat is now on its own in the room could you kleave the window open as rats can drop quite a height without hurting themselves, you never know the rat may go out of the window then you can shut the little (well big) bugger out without resorting to traps or an injured cat put some chocolate on the window sill (outside) to encourage him in that direction traps are vile even a rat i couldnt set up something that snapped an animals neck

My cats tackle rats regularly and bring the dead ones back to me. I'd put the cat back in the room and make it finish what it started.

I once came home from school to have my mother announce 'your cat brought a live rat in today. It's under a bucket in the garage for you to deal with'. Well it may well have been but as she failed to put anything on top of the bucket to weigh it down it had escaped long before I got home. It lived in the garage for ages with my mom getting increasingly twitchy.

SarahLundKicksAss Tue 26-Feb-13 16:37:58

I have come home from work to await the Rat man, who is bringing some ominously-named sticky boards. All is quiet in the Ratroom, and the towel across the bottom of the door is still in place, so unless the little blighter has found another way out it should be in there still. I did leave a window open (1st floor), but no sign of splatted rat in the front garden - hang on, can they shimmy down an outside wall? Would it be likely to do this in broad daylight?

I have a vivid memory of watching a "Tales of the Unexpected" many years ago, where a family ended up trapped in their house by thousands of rats who were underneath the house, and in the wall cavities and roof. All you could hear was scratching and squeaking, and the programme ended when the family decided to make a run for it, and you heard their dying screams drowned out by the rat noises. Am I overthinking this a little now?

I just hope the boards are super sticky, otherwise Ratty's going to get all riled up, then his first thought will be to wreak his revenge on DD and me in the middle of the night. (Definitely overthinking now!)

SarahLundKicksAss Tue 26-Feb-13 16:39:05

Meanwhile bastard cat is washing her backside oblivious to my mental anguish!

Trazzletoes Tue 26-Feb-13 16:45:24

Yes it could well have shimmied out of an open window and down the wall.

SarahLundKicksAss Tue 26-Feb-13 17:28:23

Rat man has just been - searched the room from top to bottom, and guess what? NO RAT! There's no evidence of any carpet chewing, and I made him go through every draw and shake the quilt on the bed, so hopefully it's legged it out of the window.

Can't be 100% about this - there's a small gap under the bedroom door. I shoved a towel up against it last night. The towel was moved away from a bit of it this morning, but DD had got up first and the cats were upstairs, so I can only hope that one of the cats pulled the towel away. It's either that or....

THERE'S A BLOODY GREAT RAT SOMEWHERE ELSE IN THE HOUSE!

I feel like special ops now, listening out for evidence.

Cat is rubbing against my legs. Grr!

zzzzz Tue 26-Feb-13 17:31:26

Rats can climb walls.

But I think the towel says it all. shock. sad

Trazzletoes Tue 26-Feb-13 17:40:56

Sorry to burst your bubble OP, but they can squeeze through extremely small spaces.

TheSilveryPussycat Tue 26-Feb-13 18:19:29

AIUI rats have a non-fatal terminal velocity, and as a poster above says, would survive a fall from the first floor.

But no, this one got out the gap in the door.

Fluffycloudland77 Tue 26-Feb-13 18:20:58

Nooo! Not sticky pads. Very cruel. Poison or air rifle but please not sticky pads.

It'll try and chew its little feet off <bunny hugger>

zzzzz Tue 26-Feb-13 18:29:40

Pray it's not pregnant.

<sorry>

SarahLundKicksAss Tue 26-Feb-13 18:48:43

Now stop it everyone. I have convinced myself it jumped out of the window, so stop putting other ideas in my head!

zzzzz pregnant.... noooooooo!

Rat man said sticky pads were frowned upon now, but DS would be shocked if he came back from uni and someone had let rip with an air rifle in his bedroom!

Am about to venture upstairs again. I may be gone sometime.

Fluffycloudland77 Tue 26-Feb-13 19:06:16

It's a one shot gun, it wouldn't be messy.

Blackden Tue 26-Feb-13 19:11:15

I've marked this thread to act as a deterrent when I start getting thoughts about how nice it would be to have a cat.

I hope you get some resolution to this OP, ie firm evidence to know that the rat is done for.

flamingtoaster Tue 26-Feb-13 20:27:55

Do you play the recorder or flute? To put your mind at rest you could try playing a suitable song (Rat Trap by the Boomtown Rats or maybe I Think I Smell a Rat by The White Stripes) and wander through the house getting in touch with your inner Pied Paper of Hamelin.smile

SarahLundKicksAss Tue 26-Feb-13 20:55:59

The Boomtown Rats were my favourite band when I were a lass..

No rustling or squeaking yet - have been in every room banging loudly.

Have resorted to wine to ensure some sleep tonight - this has made me realise that I could never be a contestant on I'm a Celebrity!

Adversecamber Tue 26-Feb-13 21:06:19

I really wish I hadn't read this, have total heebie jeebies. Was chased by a giant rat as a child when boy across the road lured rats from churchyard out with bacon scraps with his catapult ready to kill. Loads came out and chased the neighbourhood kids down the road.

What larks were had pre x box days

I can offer my gorgeous border terrier who is a cracking ratter <proud> <helpful>

ThatVikRinA22 Tue 26-Feb-13 21:24:31

oh....i like rats. i had them as pets. i cant kill em - not even the manky ones.

really - the sticky pads sound horrific and cruel to me.
im sure its gone out - i have picked up and put back out mice, voles, shrews, birds and rats before now.

it would have been terrified and anxious to get out knowing the cat was waiting....it will have gone im sure. rats are very intelligent. if its not there try not to worry about it.

if you are near me i will happily come and turf it out for you....--and talk to it--

ZebraOwl Tue 26-Feb-13 21:33:18

See it's things like this that make me quite glad the Zebra Kittens are still flatly refusing (aged almost 11 months) to venture outside. S'fine by me if they vote with their paws for the Indoor Cat Life!

juule Tue 26-Feb-13 21:33:57

Mutant rat?
Master Shredder? Look out for ninja turtles. grin

Sorry not helpful.

At last VicarInaTutu. Someone who understands me. I was beginning to think I was the only rat lover in the world. I have picked up and rescued a rat that was being terrorised by cats in my garden. I put it somewhere safe. It stayed perfectly still for about 15 seconds, then ran off.

ThatVikRinA22 Tue 26-Feb-13 21:52:05

i would love to link you to the photos on my FB today.....absolutely the cutest rats ever.

seriously cute....

maxybrown Tue 26-Feb-13 21:55:21

<<passes out>>

This would involve me moving out - I kid ye not, I would have to de camp somewhere................wahhhh!

ThatVikRinA22 Tue 26-Feb-13 22:14:13

pulease click my cute link.....

really. you will see rats in a very different light.....

TheSilveryPussycat Tue 26-Feb-13 22:18:37

Hey catneuterer, that's vicar, you and me in the rat fan club.

Those pix are sweet but also odd vicar. Perhaps it's cos my first rat had just the sweetest little babies of her own smile

Fluffycloudland77 Tue 26-Feb-13 22:19:25

They do look cute with a teddy.

My parents have a rat in the garden, it eats bird seed.

I think those are the cutest photos I've ever seen!

Hassled Tue 26-Feb-13 22:27:36

I was hoping to MN tonight to the news that the King Rat had gone to a better place, a place far far away - and most importantly that you knew he had.

ThatVikRinA22 Tue 26-Feb-13 22:33:49

yay SPC kindred spirits in more ways than one!

i do love rats. they are so clever, and so sweet, and they are great mums. I really do struggle with whats so scary about them - especially given those photos! they were on my vets FB page.....

rats make wonderful pets.

ive taken wild rats off my moggies before now though....same as ive taken birds and pigeons off em too...

MadCap Tue 26-Feb-13 22:37:33

I killed a rat once. It was my friend's pet. I was at hers for a sleepover. I tried to pet it, it bit me and then the next morning when we woke, it was deadsad I SWEAR I didn't do anything to it. I just must be poisonous to rats.

I've been bitten/pecked by lots of different animals. The rat was the only one to die.

ThatVikRinA22 Tue 26-Feb-13 22:40:40

awwww.....

i urge anyone scared of them though to click my cute link on the page before this one....

really seriously cute rat.....truly! will make you see them in a different light!

MadCap Tue 26-Feb-13 22:46:11

Vicar, my sister has those pictures on her Facebook too, and she like the Pol Pot or Hitler insert preferred genocidal maniac here of rats and mice. I forgive her though, because she's probably going to cure cancer or summat. grin

changeforthebetter Tue 26-Feb-13 22:46:41

That is cute Vicar my old tabby is a bit past the rat-catching now. The ones we used to get (thankfully, outdoors) were not clutching teddies, mind grin

ThatVikRinA22 Tue 26-Feb-13 23:02:01

smile

cute rats! we need more pics of cute and lovable rats imo! they are great. so intelligent, and so funny. i would love more but i just dont have room for a the huge rat cage we used to have since we moved house.....they need a fair bit of room!

TheSilveryPussycat Tue 26-Feb-13 23:27:03

vicar there are sometimes rat threads in Super Furry Animals.

SarahLundKicksAss Wed 27-Feb-13 07:45:59

For those of you who are Friends of the Small Furry Ones - the sticky boards remain untouched by rodent paw. Another quiet night in the House of Rat, and although I have walked (gingerly) around every room bashing things loudly, accompanied by bastard cat (hoping her ratdar would seek anything out) ratty didn't break cover. So we're back to the happy ending of the window jump, or ratty has breathed his last somewhere in the house, in which case I will no doubt be smelling him in a day or so. No strange noises from the walls / ceiling either.

Did wake up in the middle of the night imagining I saw ratty on my windowsill - slept with the light on after that!

He's probably long gone Sarah.

There was a rat at the end of my garden yesterday... Poor thing has no idea how much danger he's in picking my garden, my cats are proven rat murderers extraordinaire. He was quite cute and not of the mutant variety

Debbylou Fri 01-Mar-13 00:58:44

Shame hes gone really you could of got him a lil house n called him Ben smile

All together in squeeky high pitched voices grin

Ben the two of us need look no more
Weee both found what we were loookingg fooorr

SarahLundKicksAss Fri 01-Mar-13 08:25:39

Thanks for those kind thoughts Debbylou, but he didn't look the cuddly type!

All quiet in the House of Rat last night, and the night before. No strange smells, so hopefully he did take his chances out of the window rather than curling up and expiring behind a wardrobe.

I am still not talking to bastard cat.

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