(71 Posts)
FTRsMammy Tue 09-Oct-12 17:24:55

A girl I work with has two Siamese cats and needs to rehome them due to DCs allergies, anyone who has Siamese that can tell me what they're like with kids, my frame of reference is Lady and the Tranp and I'm not sure that's helpful!

Lonecatwithkitten Tue 09-Oct-12 17:55:04

They talk a lot. Compared to other cats they are usually pretty in your face quite literally. They love human attention, they love high drama over the slightest thing. They are usually really good with children once they come to like them though sometimes they flee to the highest point.
Think DARLING! DRAMA! DRAMA! and that pretty much sums them up. If they could be on the stage they would be!

FTRsMammy Tue 09-Oct-12 17:58:34

grin they sound interesting hmm the current owner has 2 kids and says they're fine, are they independent or do they like to be around you a lot?

Lonecatwithkitten Tue 09-Oct-12 18:00:30

Siamese love people. I love them to bits, but wouldn't have one as I think they would be too high maintenance for me. This is from a woman with a British Short hair and they after all are superior beings who occasionally deign to acknowledge the staff they employ to care for them.

tabulahrasa Tue 09-Oct-12 22:05:45

They're clingier than toddlers, lol...doesn't matter what you're doing, they're there, I pick up washing with a cat attached, she sits between me and the computer, between me and a book, she looks in every cupboard I put things in and she even follows me to my neighbour's when I go for coffee.

She's great with kids though, because they give her the attention she feels she is due.

FTRsMammy Wed 10-Oct-12 18:18:07

I've been to meet them and I think I may have fallen in love smile

Flippityjig Wed 10-Oct-12 18:29:01

I have a siamese and love him to bits. However they are very different to other cats, they crave human company. My siamese is like a dog, he follows me around the house all the time. He also likes to play, we throw toys for him and he retrieves them for me to throw again. They can be very noisy and talk to you. They certainly have lots of character. Mine has the nasty habit of pinching gloves and soft toys which he then chews. We have to stop him because he swallows bits which could block his intestines.

I wouldn't be without him!

Good luck with your decision. If you take them, please post some pics!

I've got one, he's my second.

Both have been very, very vocal and dog-like. They need company. And cuddles. And they practically insist on sleeping in the bed with us.

With kids, both have been terrific. First cat we got when DS was 2 and we never had any issues. Second cat was only a few months when DS2 was born so has done all of the baby stuff (being chewed, tail pulled etc) and has never scratched or bitten - he just moves himself off and looks for sympathy. People say they're generally good with children, and yes they are.

Both of them, however, have had issues with Cat1, who is a typical moggy. It's like they speak different languages and they have had little to do with each other. We recently got Siamese2 a wife (oriental breed) and they adore each other.

They are absolute characters. They are wonderful. As much as I love my moggy, I am an Oriental breed convert grin

Cailleach Wed 10-Oct-12 18:53:19

We had a Burmese cat when I was a kid - apparently they're much like Siamese cats, temperament-wise.

He was "all of the above", as it were - vocal, clingy, playful, cuddly, insisted on being with you everywhere, even to the extent of taking showers with us (this really had to be seen to be believed.)

They are also VERY bright and ours could open doors no problem - even bolted ones! He was extremely even-tempered and put up with us kids dressing him up in dolls clothes etc etc.

I say go for it, OP!

Flippityjig Fri 12-Oct-12 14:39:52

FTRs mammy, did you decide to have the Siamese?

FTRsMammy Fri 12-Oct-12 18:47:16

Thank you for all the feedback ladies, I've agonised for 2 days, DH is not a cat person so I wasn't sure how he'd feel about a pet that would be such a big in your face part of our lives, however he's in the Royal Navy and is only getting home one weekend every 4-6 weeks at the mo, so he wouldn't be living with them everyday. Final decision is that I'm going to take them!! grin DS and I are going to collect them on Sunday so ill put up some pics asap smile

Yay! Your life will never be the same again grin

FTRsMammy Fri 12-Oct-12 19:47:14

mimsy I'm not sure whether that's comforting or not! smile

Flippityjig Fri 12-Oct-12 20:36:37

Oh fab! Can't wait to see pics. Good luck.

out2lunch Fri 12-Oct-12 20:42:09

can't wait to see the pics too

i was only going to say what everyone else has already said

NatashaBee Fri 12-Oct-12 20:47:25

Definitely a good breed to have with children - very tolerant, friendly, and playful. My son spends hours trailing a cat toy round the floor for our siamese to chase after - the other 3 cats don't want to play with him but the siamese is very good with him.

FTRsMammy Fri 12-Oct-12 22:22:32

DS is fairly indifferent to them coming, in fact when I asked him if he thought he would like them to come and live at our house he said " hmm probably not mammy they're too boring" that seems to be his answer to everything these days! I, on the other hand, can think of nothing else grin

tabulahrasa Fri 12-Oct-12 22:28:00

Oh, they're definitely not boring, lol

cozietoesie Sat 13-Oct-12 20:05:40

Got my first one at 9 years old and that was longer ago than I care to admit to! They're quite wonderful.

I remember my young brothers 'playing' with him on the lawn behind the greenhouse. One had the head and front paws and the other the back paws - and they were almost pulling him apart because each wanted him. He was yowling but his claws were sheathed - and let's face it: a cat could get out of that position if they cared to be aggressive.

DS will probably end up being their biggest fan. Pay no attention to the 'they're too boring' stuff. The men in my family are nonchalant about our Siamese but are very deeply attached to them beneath it all.

Hope you're enjoying them!


FTRsMammy Sat 20-Oct-12 21:09:17

Sorry for the delay in pics, they're all on my iPhone and I'm struggling to get them the right size to upload without massive chunks being lopped off!

cozietoesie Sat 20-Oct-12 21:31:37

Looking forward to them. Whose bed have they decided to sleep in/on - and is DS a convert yet?


FTRsMammy Sun 21-Oct-12 20:19:18

We keep the bedroom doors closed but DS woke up for the loo at about 1.30 on night and I didn't realise they were asleep outside my bedroom door, so I tripped over them, cats meowed, I swore, DS was crying chaos hmm

DS is a total convert, Zara loves to lie on his lap like a baby grin

cozietoesie Sun 21-Oct-12 20:23:37

Thought he would be! grin

I'm surprised they haven't tried to get into bed with someone over night. (They tend to adopt household routines and sleep through.) Though there are two of them I guess. Still - don't be surprised (and tell DS not to be) if you wake up one chilly night to the feel of your face being patted to lift the duvet up!

cozietoesie Sun 21-Oct-12 20:24:35

PS - if DS were to leave his bedroom door open by mistake, I reckon they'd be in like a shot.


FTRsMammy Sun 21-Oct-12 23:12:38

It wouldn't surprise me at all if they figured out how to open the doors!

I was watching tv last night and heard the bathroom light switch on (light pull) and went upstairs thinking it was DS and found Zara playing with it! She's very curious and cheeky smile

Flippityjig Sun 21-Oct-12 23:23:46

Can't wait to see photos.

My siamese kitten used to sleep in my arms under the duvet for the first few months. So sweet. Sadly these days he jumps around the bedroom in the night, waking us up, so now sleeps downstairs with the other cat. I miss him but also need my sleep. He would repeatedly scratch up the carpet in front of the bedroom door if he was allowed upstairs.

prettybird Sun 21-Oct-12 23:46:56

I've always had Siamese and wouldn't be without them. It's good that you've got a pair - they're such social beasts, they need the company and it means they'll be slightly less clingy.

Even "dog" people get converted as they are really dog-cats and enjoy playing fetch and going for walks.

They're great with kids - will tolerate things from kids that they'll never tolerate from adults.

Our current two almost never unsheath their claws. The male cat is such a softy with really velvety pads. The only time he puts a claw out is to tap your shoulder because he wants you to lift up the duvet cover so that he can then decide he doesn't want to come under hmm.

His "sister" is a lap seeking missile - onto your lap almost before you've sat down.

Enjoy the new additions to your family!smilesmile

Flippityjig Mon 22-Oct-12 12:48:11

My Siamese boy never scratches either - and my dd dresses him in dolls' clothes, carts him around, can do anything with him. The only thing he does is hold my head still so he can "inspect" my hair if it's not freshly washed, he likes to have a good smell and sometimes chews my hair! He also jumps on my knee the minute I sit down in the evening and stays on my lap all evening, although he's not an affectionate cat usually, rarely purrs.

I hope you enjoy your new pair and that they settle in well. How noisy are they? I love Siamese's voices!

endoftherainbow Mon 22-Oct-12 21:52:01

I've grown up with Siamese and Burmese. DH after years of resistance gave in and agreed we could get a cat. Nearly 3 years later, one Siamese and one Burmese have joined us with our 3 DCs. DH regrets the day he agreed to 'pets' probably as he never experienced them in childhood. The Siamese in particular shames me, steals DH's dinner if left unattended, steals bread and carries it around the house like a trophy and plays fetch with the dcs. The Siamese lays claim to me and will always try to sneak onto the lap of sleeping DH. The Burmese owns the DCs, enjoys stowing herself under duvets until DH finds her, nibbling DC toes for attention and rarely has time for adults unless its time for food. DH continually asks when they're going as they're a constant distraction to the DCs but the joy they bring outweigh the grief from DH which I now ignore!

cozietoesie Mon 22-Oct-12 21:53:38

He would probably have hysterics if you said they were to go. Trust me on that one!

FTRsMammy Mon 29-Oct-12 10:24:12

Update: I'm 99% sure Zara has come to me pregnant due to her looking like she's swallowed a rugby ball!! Looks like we'll have kittens at Christmas! hmm

cozietoesie Mon 29-Oct-12 10:25:15

Oh my! Have you taken her to the vet to check?

cozietoesie Mon 29-Oct-12 10:27:14

PS - I'd sort of assumed (dangerous I know) that they were neutered cats. Is the other one an unneutered boy by any chance?

Flippityjig Mon 29-Oct-12 12:53:34

Oh no! I would definitely take them to the vet, they can have a feel and should be able to tell if there are kittens moving in there. she may just be greedy though! My siamese is very greedy and has a huge tum!

Baffledandbewildered Mon 29-Oct-12 22:37:21

The best breed in the world . So interactive with people mine is permenantly next to me ! In bed in the bath he sits on the side!! And he loves to help whilst im cooking. Boys i find are friendlier than girls as a rule, we have always had them through all my children growing up . Love by everyone in the family and all visitors smile

Baffledandbewildered Mon 29-Oct-12 22:39:35

Haha just seen your update. If she is pregnant siamese are great mothers and normally do everything themselves . Keeping new kittens warm is the key to keeping them alive pm me if you want some tips, we have had lots of litters

FTRsMammy Fri 02-Nov-12 10:13:03

My boy is neutered and I knew when I got them that she wasn't but as the plan is for them to be house cats it wasn't too much of a problem, that was before I realised she was pregnant!
I haven't exactly told DH yet ( he's in the Royal Navy and hasn't met the cats yet) but he's home next weekend so I guess he'll figure it out, not sure how he'll react given that he doesn't actually like cats very much

cozietoesie Fri 02-Nov-12 10:32:41

Well at least your boy isn't the dad. That's something.

Have you taken her to the vet yet ? (Your DH will likely go all into a sentimental puddle when he hears there might be kittens by the way!)

cozietoesie Fri 02-Nov-12 10:34:32

PS - and if he's on a ship, get him to start asking round his fellow sailors for homes!

FTRsMammy Fri 02-Nov-12 11:22:09

No trip to the vet as yet I have a poorly boy keeping me at home sad I'm hoping to take her after the weekend.
I'm not sure about the gooiness, I used the "you're only home 1 in every 5 or 6 weekends so they won't make an impact on your life" argument for getting the cats, tbh the kittens won't help my case!!! Haha

Polyethyl Fri 02-Nov-12 11:38:12

Can I ask about siamese and allergies. Several times I've heard it said that siamese cats set off allergies more than Moggies.

I've a friend who is happy to take antihistamine pills when visiting friends with moggies, but when she visits me (and my father's 2 siamese cats) she needs ventalin, and stays in the garden. Similarly my husband is not allergic to Moggies at all, but says my father's siameses make his eyes itch - so the Christmas visit will be interesting.

Has anyone else experienced increased allergies from siameses as opposed to Moggies?

cozietoesie Fri 02-Nov-12 11:39:52

Make sure that you have some nice treats (for her) ready for when he comes home - little taste morsels of tuna, roast chicken and so on. And get him to give them to her. It shouldn't be too long before you can say 'I don't know why she pays so much more attention to you when you're not here as much as I am!'

Then it's a done deal.


cozietoesie Fri 02-Nov-12 11:46:26

Difficult to say, Polyethyl. I've known people who were allergic to other cats but not to Siamese and from what you're saying, the reverse can also be true.

The first person to really understand allergies will likely get a Nobel Prize.

prettybird Fri 02-Nov-12 17:06:18

I've only ever known people who are allergic to cats but can tolerate being in the company of Siamese.

Their fur is supposed to be a bit different to "ordinary" cats, so I presume it is feasible to be allergic to one type and not the other.

cozietoesie Fri 02-Nov-12 17:20:42

They have short hair but they still produce dander which is what (if I recall correctly) people are allergic to. I don't know. I have no allergies to Siamese and no-one in our family or circle of acquaintances has ever had a problem with them.

I'm allergic to cats (despite having 3!) and I find that usually I need a week to "settle in" with a new cat without my eyes swelling and nose running. Neither my Siamese nor my oriental ever set me off though.

I was told it's something in the cat's saliva that sets off allergies. I always like it, if I'm asked what I'm allergic to, to add "...and cat spit" at the end of the list.

FTRsMammy Mon 19-Nov-12 18:10:31

Update: I'm now the proud human mother of 5 kittens!! 2 black and 3 tortie grin

cozietoesie Mon 19-Nov-12 18:14:13

Great! grin

Has DH lined up any shipmates to take some?

And where are the photos on your profile?

Oh wow! I bet they are pretty if they are half siamese.

FTRsMammy Mon 19-Nov-12 20:59:48

7!!! 7 kittens not 5! Argh!!!

Still haven't figured out how to do photos yet but I will work on it smile

Wow, that is a lot of kittens! Are you planning to keep one or two? Wish I could take one off your hands but think my DH might have something to say about that! I love Siamese and black cats so a cross between the two would be perfect!

Looking forward to seeing photos!

cozietoesie Thu 29-Nov-12 15:29:02

How are the kits doing, FTRsMammy. I think we need some pictures!


Taa daaa i finally managed to get some pics on my profile, feel free to have a gander smile

cozietoesie Sat 15-Dec-12 16:59:50

Did you remember to make them public, FTR? They're not showing yet. (That may be the board lag though.)


cozietoesie they should be visible, my profile isnt private and the photos are marked show to all smile

cozietoesie Sat 15-Dec-12 17:25:53

It's OK - they're visible now. Must just have been the lag.

And what a gorgeous bunch! A sprawl of kittens.

Boy are you going to have your hands full in a week or so.


TrillsCarolsOutOfTune Sat 15-Dec-12 17:36:25

What a lovely pile of kittens smile

7 is a big litter!

They're just starting to figure out how to climb out of the box! I don't think my life will ever be the same again hmm they are beyond sweet though and pretty vocal already, not sure if that's the siamese in them or just kitten-ness!

cozietoesie Sat 15-Dec-12 17:47:57

Depends on the 'vocalness'. It's probably the Siamese in them if they're big volume calls for small kits.


How is Mum - is she doing well by them?

They're good (apart from the conjunctivitis hmm) she's taking amazing care of them. They're all really clean and they've started play fighting a bit and chasing each other around the box.
She's still feeding them and I think the novelty is wearing off for her now, they're getting bigger and she's not a massive cat and I think they might be nipping her a bit now when they're feeding.

cozietoesie Sun 16-Dec-12 08:20:27

How bad is the conjunctivitis, FTR? Have you all got it under control?

Yep - 7 is a lot for a wee cat. (I should imagine she's eating you out of house and home to keep up with them.)

I recall going to get my boy 3 ago from his breeder. We were in the kitten room and the breeder brought in Mum so that we could meet her. She came in a little tentatively and then saw us. You could just see the look on her face.... 'Oh Glory Be. Humans!!!' and then she rushed over to us to be made much of. Paid no attention to the kittens whatsoever. I would have considered them well-weaned and ready to go by that stage. She couldn't see them far enough.grin

The conjunctivitis isn't bad, we have antibiotic eye drops, an luckily only 2 have it. The boy who got it first was eyes glued shut and green pus but now they're both just a little crusty at the edges.
Zara is completely ravenous, it seems to be easing off a little. She went from 2 pouches of wet food a day and a small bowl of biscuits to 6-8 pouches a day and a large bowl of biscuits shock
She likes to come and have a cuddle with anyone who will entertain her but as soon as she hears them squeaking she hot foots back to the box smile

cozietoesie Sun 16-Dec-12 08:52:55

Ah that's good. Keeping on top of it from the beginning is the way to go.

I thought she'd be a hungry Mum. Just give her as much as she wants to eat at the moment and research the second mortgage later! She should judge her own intake according to needs and start to tail off a little later on.

She'll still be assiduous in her care right now because they're so young but you'll see her start to get fed up sooner rather than later with 7 to take care of. Maybe start to investigate giving her a hand with the weaning process so that you're all prepared when the time comes?

Doing well there, FTR.


I'm hoping that she'll carry on feeding them until Friday, after that DH is on 3 wks leave and I'm off quite a bit over Christmas so one or both of us will be here a lot of the time smile

cozietoesie Sun 16-Dec-12 10:24:11

Oh gosh yes. And the rest - they're only little. But around 3 weeks, or a tiny bit before - see how it goes with Mum - you can start to help with the weaning by offering them some special food in a lowish flattish big bowl. (Loads of help on the net for recipes.) And put down an extra tray for them as well.

You're lucky here (although you may not think so!) because you've got a nursing Mum around and she should teach them their tray duty, give them an example to follow in eating and drinking, and keep on cleaning them. If she's not totally fed up. (It'll likely be messy but there you go. Start stocking up on newspaper.)


baahhumbug Sun 16-Dec-12 10:29:56

Aw they are gorgeous! Beautiful Siamese and lovely kittens.

cozietoesie Sun 16-Dec-12 10:33:58

Spread the word then, baahhumbug. They'll be looking for good homes in a month or two.


Whereabouts are you roughly, FTR ? (In case any prospective owners are reading.)

cozietoesie Sun 16-Dec-12 11:43:19

Oh - I nearly forgot, FTR. You'll need to be giving thought to having Mum spayed in early 2013. You won't want to go through this again.

Thank you so much for all the support ( for the most part I'm totally out of my depth!!)
I'm in the North east of England, the kitties will be 4 weeks old tomorrow and they are quite happily trotting round in an old travel cot at the mo, they're playing quite a lot now but mainly still sleeping most of the time smile

baahhumbug Sun 16-Dec-12 19:15:09

I'm in North Yorkshire and will ask around in case anyone is looking for a kitten. This time last year I was looking for one! But now have my siamese and my 1 year old black kitten and have my hands full as the kitten has health problems. Otherwise I would love another kitten - especially one with a siamese voice!

cozietoesie Sun 16-Dec-12 19:39:00

No - you're doing just great, FTR. When you think that you started this thread enquiring tentatively about maybe getting two and now you have 9!

I couldn't do it, I tell you.


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