Help me please! Vomiting pregnant dog am freaking out :-(

(45 Posts)
Insaneinthemumsbrain Sun 28-Apr-13 03:34:17

57 days pregnant and has just thrown up, a very large amount each time, twice, about 10 minutes apart.

She did manage to get into the bin earlier and eat 2 bags of that horrid onion salad you get with Indian curries so may be a factor but im quite worried seeing as she is is due labour any day and i haven't the first clue about any of it.

saintmerryweather Sun 28-Apr-13 07:42:21

Onion can poison dogs, if shes still vomiting this morning id take her to the vet to be checked out.

1MitchellMum Sun 28-Apr-13 07:46:29

Yep ... vet I think. Hope she'll be OK.

Insaneinthemumsbrain Sun 28-Apr-13 11:58:32

She vomited once more but only a tiny bit of liquid came out, she then went to sleep for the night, when i hugged her about half an hour ago she was shaking for about minute then she stopped and now seems settled.

I do not have a vet and because i am on benefits i can only access the PDSA whose phone lines are closed now being a Sunday.
I don,t know who i can contact if she does go into labour today and something goes wrong the only vets round here is a small animals clinic and i do not have access to a car or money for a taxi to take her to the pdsa animal hospital which is quite a way away.

BrianCoxandTheTempleofDOOM Sun 28-Apr-13 12:02:46

onion is very poisonous to dogs, this may not be labour - your dog needs help now.

call out of hours, explain situation re PDSA, do not sit and wait.

Insaneinthemumsbrain Sun 28-Apr-13 12:08:48

They do not have an emergency number i can call i have no idea who i should be contacting? She is fine now and sleeping normally and has had breakfast and a lot of water since she was sick last night. I felt a puppy kick 5 minutes ago.

BrianCoxandTheTempleofDOOM Sun 28-Apr-13 12:13:43

Google out of hours vets in your area, or try the vet phone number and they should have a recorded message with the number for emergencies.

You can then get advice over the phone at least.

Is she insured? some policies have an emergency contact like NHS Direct, included in your policy (think it was More Than who did this when o had a policy)

Insaneinthemumsbrain Sun 28-Apr-13 12:16:01

I have no insurance had the dog not long ago and unexpectedly sort of a rescue.

I am on hold with a local vet who has an emergency advice line she is speaking to vet now to access situation.

saintmerryweather Sun 28-Apr-13 12:17:01

How on earth have you managed to end up with a pregnant bitch without a regular vet or the money to pay for one? Your dog needs to be seen if shes had that much onion, the internet reckons symptoms can take a couple of days to establish

BrianCoxandTheTempleofDOOM Sun 28-Apr-13 12:19:12

glad you got through, let us know how it goes please (interest due to my own dog aka the Bin Dipper, will one day eat onion I'm sure!)

D0oinMeCleanin Sun 28-Apr-13 12:21:38

I hope your dog's okay, OP. Good to see your getting help for her. Fingers crossed she's fine.

I am wondering how you are going to afford to get her spayed after this litter to stop this happening again?

And what's happening with the pups? Do you have a rescue willing to take them in so that they don't start this cycle all over again?

BrianCoxandTheTempleofDOOM Sun 28-Apr-13 12:23:03

I was thinking the same Dooin.

OP, from what I understand you took her on without knowing she was pregnant?

Insaneinthemumsbrain Sun 28-Apr-13 12:28:38

Ok so the poison advice is to make your dog throw up which she has already done number of times last night and to drink a lot of water, She never has much interest in water so i asked the vet if i could give her milk to ensure she flushes out her system properly which he said was a good idea as the calcium will be beneficial for puppies too.

They said no need to bring her in as she has expelled the food and is flushing system. She may have a little diarrhoea and stomach ache today but that is it.

Saint: I did not know she was pregnant until about 2/3 weeks ago when she suddenly ballooned and i did not realise i had to be able to afford an emergency vet visit even though she was healthy before i helped a dog not be hurt and gave her a safe home i do apologise for currently being on benefits and struggling with added money going to council for bedroom tax how selfish of me to actually come on here and ask for advice and then take said advice instead of just ignoring it and obviously neglecting the dog i cant afford for the moment due to being in financial trouble angry

CajaDeLaMemoria Sun 28-Apr-13 12:32:53

Hmm.. Okay, we will go with the vets idea for now.

Don't give too much milk, though.

Do you have a credit card, or anyone you can ask who does, for when she goes into labour? Have you spoken to the PdSA about it? It can be expensive, and some charities won't pay for labour issues.

What breed is she? Do you know what she's been bred with? Has she been scanned to see how many puppies she has? Is she a first time mum?

I'm trying to work out the likelihood of issues, without seeing her, to see if there's anything helpful I can suggest.

saintmerryweather Sun 28-Apr-13 12:33:08

Oh ffs op theres no need to be snippy i was asking a genuine question

Insaneinthemumsbrain Sun 28-Apr-13 12:33:26

Dooin the PDSA will spay for for a donation fee once she has had the litter which was actually planned for about 6 weeks ago but my son came down ill and had to cancel the appointment to register her as i spent taxi and donation money on trip to walk in centre and subsequently hospital and back which was an unexpected outgoing but unavoidable. By the time i had saved up some money to rebook and pay taxi fair and sum that was not insulting i was informed that she had been mated while i was not here by my bothers dog who was visiting with him which i did not think could happen as she had just appeared to finis her season and had not bled for 4 days prior obviously i was wrong and should have kept her away but it was an honest mistake
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SerotoninCanEatTomorrow Sun 28-Apr-13 12:34:28

Big hugs for you and mummy dog. Best of luck!
Am jealous of the lovely squishy puppy hugs you will get - what a lovely reward for your kindness rescuing a dog xx
Ignore the unhelpful posts - at least you are trying and have taken the recommended advice xxx

Insaneinthemumsbrain Sun 28-Apr-13 12:34:32

Sorry saint i apologise it was uncalled for my nerves are shot and i have not slept all night with watching her for any trouble.

D0oinMeCleanin Sun 28-Apr-13 12:36:26

No-one was having a go OP, it was a genuine question.

Let me know if you need any help sorting out the pup's. I have access to a homecheckers network and rescue contacts who will help.

Good luck with the pups.

Insaneinthemumsbrain Sun 28-Apr-13 12:38:27

It's all just big one mess i am not educated about owning a dog at all, i have been tying to learn and get everything in place for her, looking up insurance, contacting pdsa to register ect but she has only been with us for about 6 months and so far everything that could go wrong with housing,kids,relationship and health for me have gone wrong so she has kind of taken a back seat to other issues which has come back to kick me in the teeth now she is due to give birth.

What if she has difficulties with birth and needs a. Section ?

Where will you find the 700 + pounds for that ?

I'm sorry you are struggling financially, truly I do sympathise but to take in a dog you cannot afford to provide care for and to then let that dog become pregnant is more than a little careless

If you can't afford healthcare, insurance etc then you can't afford the dog

Insaneinthemumsbrain Sun 28-Apr-13 12:51:23

That is unfair Korma i cant even afford the taxi fair to a hospital right now if god forbid my kids needed it does that mean i should give them up too? If she needs a c section then i will have to have her treated in an emergency and owe the money to the vets and pay it off with a loan or over time there is a way around these things it is simply that the pdsa cannot be contacted today for me to know my options.

When i agreed to the dog i was not in this much financial trouble and like i said already had plans to register with pdsa and sort out insurance ect it came on very suddenly and by then my kids had bonded and giving up the dog would have been heartbreaking for them.

Do you not think i know i cant really afford the dog right now? But i am not willing to give up a member of this family when it will not stay like this for long it is simply a difficult time right now, if i gave something up every time i struggled i wouldn't have any bloody kids right now either.

I'm sure there is a scheme that will spade your dog for free if you are on benefits? Is there a blue cross near you op? Have a look as they are free for anyone on benefits I think.

No I don't think it is unfair actually

In an emergency with regards to your children you could get an ambulance or even a taxi would take pity on you

There is no such provision for dogs, rightly so because they are an expensive privilege

A lot of vets won't just let you pay off a bill in instalments especially if you are a new client with no insurance

Your plan is flawed and irresponsible

Insaneinthemumsbrain Sun 28-Apr-13 12:58:58

Dreams yes the PDSA is what caters to those on benefits here but they ask for a donation. She is going there after the litter to ensure that this cannot happen again.

D0oinMeCleanin Sun 28-Apr-13 13:00:07

Do you have a good relationship with your vets? Some of my family cannot afford vet fees. Our vet is happy to treat their pets on the understanding that the fees will be paid at the earliest possible time. It's an arrangement I made with them because we've always used that vets and they know I will pay, if my family cannot.

Which insurance companies have you looked at? Some are far cheaper than others. One of my dogs costs £35 per month, the other £6 a month with different companies.

Insaneinthemumsbrain Sun 28-Apr-13 13:02:02

So korma if i had her for 10 years and only just got into this situation would you be advising me to give her up then because i could not comfortably afford an emergency?

Like i said i was financially better off when i agreed to take her and did not expect everything to go wrong but i have always been taught a dog is for life so was not going to just throw her away and show my kids that when it becomes difficult i can just abandon her.

Where did u get dog from? Is it possible to find out what the dads breed is. How big is your dog? If its small or the dads big u could be looking at a c section. Please do something to find out before you have a real medical emergency on your hands.

Speak to Any animal charity you can and explain situation. You need to know how many puppies and get advice in how to assist as dogs can have complications.

saintmerryweather Sun 28-Apr-13 13:04:51

Its ok op i read my post back and realise i might have sounded a bit abrupt, i can be a bit like 'right what are the facts' sometimes without any sympathy so i apologise too

oh and the insurance company i work for dont cover breeding animals so they wouldnt cover whelping and associated costs such as a c section. so ultimately it might not make that much difference that op doesnt have insurance.

Insaneinthemumsbrain Sun 28-Apr-13 13:05:07

I'm sorry i have to leave the thread i have not slept and am very upset right now and feel attacked for trying my hardest to do the right thing in a bad situation. Thank you to those that offered advice instead of having a go.

colditz Sun 28-Apr-13 13:05:38

Mate, you need to rehouse that dog. If you don't even have the money to get your kids to a an e, you cannot afford to have a dog. It's not a family member, it's a dog, and you cannot call an ambulance for a dog, there is no nhs for a dog, and you cannot get emergency loans from the social to meet a dogs needs. You can do all this for your children, because we have the social care system as a safety net, and because they are not dogs. Dogs are a luxery.

Yes I hear your excuses

But you could have prevented her from becoming pregnant and putting her at risk and being responsible for god knows how many puppies too

We all fall on hard times but had your dog not been mated it may not have been such an issue

colditz Sun 28-Apr-13 13:07:33

She's 57 days pregnant, which is less than 2 months.

How have you gone from totally secure and financially comfortable to too poor to get her to the vet in less than 2 months?

You really haven't thought this through, and it's not you who is going to suffer for it, it's your dog.

saintmerryweather Sun 28-Apr-13 13:08:25

Did you get her from a rescue centre? Is there any way they could foster her to someone more experienced for the birth and then you take her back? I dont know if thats even possible

Aren't people on benefits entitled to help with vets bills? Please call vets or the RSPCA or pdsa, Battersea etc. see what options are available to you. Someone somewhere should be able to help you. You didn't know she was pregnant and if you took her then she was clearly in a bad situation and I'm assuming that you have no medical history of the dog. If you explain all this to anyone who will listen some vet or organisation may offer you a free consult. Just to get her checked over.

whereis she became pregnant whilst in ops care - her brothers dog mated her. So another un neutered dog

So op is to blame for the pregnancy

Blame isn't going to help right now though. That dog needs a check up to ensure that she's not carrying a foot ball team or that ones in an awkward position blocking the exit , or that they aren't large and impossible to birth naturally. As much as i can't abide idiot owners who don't neither animals or seek advice, scaring op off so that she doesn't feel able to come back and read responses doesn't help that dog and doesn't change the fact that she herself is struggling and however misguided she was trying to do the right thing.

op if you are reading this please ring round tomorrow and find someone or somewhere that will help you and your dog. X

Neither- nueter. Typo sorry

saintmerryweather Sun 28-Apr-13 13:18:41

Korma do you really honestly think that your posts have been useful?

Yeah I do

If we continue to 'assist' people who dont neuter or act responsibly then the situation is never going to change

Op had already had sound advice so I didn't see the need to add to that

No one had said how bloody stupid and irresponsible the situation is though so I thought I'd add that

If we make not neutering and irresponsible breeding completely socially unnacceptable rather than cooing about cure puppies then hopefully people will think twice

Lets be honest, if the other dog in question had been neutered then this bitch wouldn't have been mated

Regardless of ops financial situation, if she had been a millionaire I would have said the same, except at least then the money would be available to neuter and provide healthcare

www.2ndchance.info/caninelaborstages.htm

It's American but may be helpful

This thread is ridiculous.

It is clear there has been very little thought or responsibility taken for the dogs situation so far, but it is also clear that OP is now aware that something has to be done right now.

OP I recommend you get to the library and borrow a copy of a book called 'The Book of the Bitch' by JM Evans and Kay White. Do it first thing tomorrow and read it cover to cover.

You need to make a clean and secure whelping area, to find lots of clean towels which you should cut up to receive each pup into. Buy some vet bed from eBay or similar which is easy to wash and dry quickly. Pups will be messy.

Read this and this.

Get on the phone tomorrow morning and take responsibility for what is going to happen; find a vet who will help you and get them on stand by for any problems.

Plan to get your bitch spayed. As soon as you possibly can. A accidental mating is dangerous, irresponsible and foolish. Add to that your current financial troubles which are only a couple of months after the mating, and it's clear that behaving responsibly is the only possible option.

Also pray it is a trouble free whelping. It would be heartbreaking for your bitch to lose her life because you haven't cared properly and that is a very real possibility with your lack of preparation.

idirdog Sun 28-Apr-13 17:14:18

This thread is very scary.

The lack of knowledge by the OP is horrendous and anyone who wants to own a dog should be expected to learn the basics about dogs eg mating etc.

We all can fall on hard times but it costs nothing to learn how to protect and look after your animals and prevent situations like this.

I agree with Korma she may be giving the OP a hard time but the whole situation could be avoided. The OP is still making incorrect decisions for the dog yet feels that because of her situation she has no choice. It is not humane to make the dog suffer because of our problems.

The dog is ill because of the OP inability to cope.

Take the dog to a rescue, where she can have her puppies safely, where there will be 24/7 medical care and the puppies will be rehomed correctly and spayed.

I do have huge sympathy for the OP situation (there for the grace of god etc) but that does not stop her from making the correct decision now for the health of the .

We can help you find the correct rescue for your dog

idirdog Sun 28-Apr-13 17:15:00

health of the dog

idirdog Sun 28-Apr-13 17:15:38

What type of dog is the bitch and what was she mated with?

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