Tell me why a second dog is such a bad idea

(45 Posts)
Blistory Fri 26-Apr-13 15:47:12

I NEED another dog, I crave another dog, please, please talk me out of it.

DP and I have split up and his great big lion dog has obviously gone with him. It's been three months and I really miss having a second dog in my life.

It wouldn't be sensible as I have a 18 month old Bernese girl who hasn't been spayed yet, I have a car full of mud and sand, a house full of fur, mud, sand and saliva. She seriously affects my ability to go on holiday, out for the day etc etc. She adores me and would probably be jealous. My parents dog sit and find my one big dog a handful. They would probably never dog sit again. My cats don't like dogs. I've forgotten how much hard work a puppy or new dog can be.

But.......I have the space, the money, the energy and the love.

It still wouldn't be sensible, would it ?

Is having one dog sensible when you think about it? <philosophical mood>

Oh go on, you know you want to!

You've highlighted the four most important things and said you've got them.

I'm sure your girl will get on with the right companion.

Blistory Fri 26-Apr-13 16:07:18

You're right. Getting the Bernese wasn't sensible but I adore her. She takes up so much time and energy but she gives so much back.

I'm just so broody for another. And it would be much more sensible to fulfil that urge with a dog rather than a child at this stage in my life.

SunnyL Fri 26-Apr-13 16:09:34

Why not get a small dog as a companion? I've always had dogs in pairs as you tend to find they amuse themselves far more and can be left to their own devises more. Currently I've only got one and she demands far far more attention than when I have two dogs.

There are still race track marks in my mums back garden from her two dogs when they were younger running round and round chasing one another for hours. Never exactly needed a walk after that!

I personally wouldn't go through the puppy years again, but I am on the look-out for an older Lab that needs rehoming, Meh to mess and more hair.

My puppy comes home tomorrow. I expect to have at least one meltdown by tea time, and one crying jag by Monday <realist>

MrsFrederickWentworth Fri 26-Apr-13 16:13:11

Lab rescue, Beer?

I have a couple Bookmarked, MrsFred grin

How exciting, Chickens!

My family pull their face when I say i want another dog (not DH and DS). Have tried to explain to them that while it will cost more it really won't take up much more time in exercising or cleaning. It would be company for MissB too, when we are out.

Inthepotty Fri 26-Apr-13 16:18:50

What Puppy do you mean Chickens?!!!!

<whistles, looks innocent> Nothing to see here <hides crate under a blanket, kicks puppy toys under the sofa>

aliciaflorrick Fri 26-Apr-13 16:22:44

I already say if you're walking one dog you may as well be walking two. The problem for me would be two lots of kennel fees if I want to go away, although I seem to have got round that solution by finding house sitters (so glad I live in a popular holiday destination, they have two weeks rent free in my house on condition that they walk the pooch at least twice a day). But you say you have the money to look after two dogs.

I would love to have another dog, but I think it's unrealistic for me. My current dog is nearly 2, he's lovely, but he's bonkers. I can't let him off the lead so he currently drags me through the woods twice a day. But then he goes crazy when he sees another dog he wants to play so badly. Saying that if someone offered me another springer spaniel I think I'd bite their hand off. I love springers.

Blistory Fri 26-Apr-13 16:24:05

oooh, a puppy ! Are you mad ? Have you forgotten ?

What kind ? Go on, I need some puppy porn and maybe I can live vicariously through your trials and tribulations (all whilst thanking god that I'm not mad enough to do the puppy stage again so soon)

Blistory Fri 26-Apr-13 16:27:42

No kennel fees to worry about - she's far too precious to go into kennels. Actually, she's very much a people dog and would pine hence she's only ever looked after by family. She comes to work every day as well so we're probably over bonded.

Which kind of worries me as I don't know how she'll take to a second dog living with us full time. And then there's the whole choice of breed because it will have to be a large, moulting, drooling beast or it just wouldn't feel like home.

I am mad, and no I haven't forgotten. Especially as I had the most stinky, bonkers puppy in the entire universe. In fact, apart from the stench, he's not really grown up. I mean, he's trained and well behaved in the house, but still very 'puppy-like'.

The kind? <takes deep breath, girds loins> He's a cocker/poodle cross. We've found a breeder we're very happy with, who interrogated us via email and phone before we were allowed to view the pups. I know that cross breeds are a contentious issue on here, though, and expect to get some flack. He's a F1b cross, with the weighting on the poodle side. My main concern is introducing Jasper, who can be fear reactive, although my behaviourist thinks it is manageable as long as we take it slowly. I don't work so have plenty of time to invest. I have bought lots of gin <essential>

Watching with interest as I am dying to get another dog - our current pooch is just over a year and he gets on so well and seems to love being out with other doggy friends I want to get him another buddy!
Plus I think he's very bored at home when were not there.

He's been a very easy dog though, a great breed (no malting or drooling!) very cheeky but not too demanding in terms of care or cost (thankfully) and we would get another of the same breed but in a different colour.
Maybe that's why it doesn't seem such a huge leap to get a second one as he is so easy.

gymmummy64 Fri 26-Apr-13 16:52:58

You kept that quiet Chickens!! Sooo, we'll look forward to the bastard puppy thread then? Or perhaps the bastard dogs at war thread?

<rather fancies another herself, knows it would be madness>

GoSuckEggs Fri 26-Apr-13 17:01:18

I personally think when you have 1, what is another 1? I am currently using that arguement with DH, 'we have 2, what is 1 more??!' he keeps saying no sad

just saying..... but i know of a little pup that either needsa new home or a foster home for a couple of months...... just saying like! wink

I spent a lot of time mulling it over, deciding no, then researching breeders. I'm less mad than DH, though. He wanted a full springer <guess who does the walks/training/cleaning up so gets to veto>

Blistory Fri 26-Apr-13 17:17:48

I'm only dithering because I know there isn't the option of handing a dog back if it doesn't work out and my current dog's well being is so important to me.

<wonders if she would look ridiculous walking a Newfoundland and a Bernese>

Good luck Chickens - hope the gin isn't needed

pickledginger Fri 26-Apr-13 17:18:38

Can I ask why you haven't had her spayed yet.

Blistory Fri 26-Apr-13 17:30:13

Large breeds take longer to mature physically. She didn't come into season until 14 months and the vet's advice was that she was still growing so he'd prefer her to have a second season to be sure she was was fully mature. She'll be done after her second season but not before.

I'm happy with my choice which was an informed one. It was a matter of weighing up the benefits re mammary cancers, infections etc against putting that specific breed through an op at a very young age.

She's not ever kennelled and is only around neutered family dogs. I have no desire to have her bred from and I'm comfortable that I can manage the risks until she is spayed.

Mmmnotsure Fri 26-Apr-13 17:31:53

A Newfoundland and a Bernese! envy

Wouldn't look ridiculous. They would balance each other nicely, don't you think?

pickledginger Fri 26-Apr-13 17:35:17

Well there's no issue with having another dog around as she'll be done by the time it's an issue.

pickledginger Fri 26-Apr-13 17:39:00

I'd go for another Bernese. They're lovely envy

Blistory Fri 26-Apr-13 18:03:22

None of this is helping. confused

You're all just waiting to hear me say that I'm going to get another.

But what would I get ?

Not overly keen on a puppy but then again, the breeds that I love are unlikely to be in rescue. Think Newfoundland, Leonberger, Bernese, Irish Wolfhound, Briard, OES.

I think I have to realistically rule out the OES and Briard due to exercise needs - I currently do about 20 mins in the morning, 40 mins at lunch and an hour at night during the week - dog would then be in the office in between times. Weekends, longer walks. I'm not sure an OES or Briard would be happy with that. Needs to be youngish and strong to tolerate rough and tumble of current overgrown puppy. No resident young children - just little visitors who are used to spending a considerable amount of time being knocked over/drooled over.

Woofers Fri 26-Apr-13 18:10:06

Give a rescue dog a home. No puppy trials and tribulations, but lots of challenges with unknown history etc.

Go and volunteer yourself as a walker at the rehoming place. No need to go to a national one, there are lots of independents who would gladly receive volunteers and have less hoops to jump to get a dog

Regarding 3 dogs or 2. We fostered a American bull dog - saved from death row for not selling all her puppies. She was amazing. I still miss her. However, it was a bloody pain taking 3 dogs to the beach by myself - 3 poo's to pick up, 3 dogs to watch don't get lost, 3 dogs to dry sandy wet paws whilst all 3 are trying to get in the car all at the same time. So when she was rehomed we said no more. . . . Not this year.

Fostering is so rewarding, but heart breaking too, in a happy ever after kind of way. The first time she came home she wagged her tail when she was drinking from the water bowl. . . . .

2nd dog however, I swear has made our boxer boy more confident to be home alone, and has kept him fit. He is 9 this year and fit as a 6yr old. Still loving life and his bed!

Our 2nd dog springer collie x was an accidental litter from a farm and was cheap as chips to pay for the bitch to be spayed, not to make any money. Mum hadn't even had 1st season and was obviously out on the day! They weren't expecting her to be in season and then wondered why she looked abit "full"

Anyway, she loves other dogs company and is a very sociable creature. A direct result of having a pal from the start I think.

ChoudeBruxelles Fri 26-Apr-13 18:11:19

Sorry we have two and I like it. They keep each other company when we are out and look cute curled together

pickledginger Fri 26-Apr-13 18:11:27

Why not try contacting breed specific rescue? You can put your name down with them and they'll let you know if they have a dog that will be a good match for you. They take on dogs eg when the owner has to move or can't cope. You might be able to get an older dog.

pickledginger Fri 26-Apr-13 18:13:46

An Irish Wolfhound! Oh, you must, get one, you must <not helping>

LadyTurmoil Fri 26-Apr-13 18:41:14

not a Bernese but sufficiently hairy perhaps?! grin www.manytearsrescue.org/display_mtar_dog.php?id=6349

Blistory Fri 26-Apr-13 18:48:26

Ooh, she's lovely.

Sadly I have two cats and the bottom of my garden borders a field with sheep in it for most of the year.

Am not averse to the idea of a rescue at all.

Blistory Fri 26-Apr-13 18:49:59

not sad about the cats, sad that the sheep field rules out some dogs straight away that I'd consider. I only have a stock fence between me and the sheep and baby cows so well within jumping height for most dogs.

mrslaughan Fri 26-Apr-13 19:07:26

No don't get a Newfoundland - get a greater Swiss mountain dog(swissey) - would be perfect with your Bernese

LadyTurmoil Fri 26-Apr-13 19:08:40

which bit of the country are you in?

mrslaughan Fri 26-Apr-13 19:08:51

Swisseys can't jump to save themselves......

Bowlersarm Fri 26-Apr-13 19:15:25

Two's a great idea. Couldn't possibly talk you out of itwink

Blistory Fri 26-Apr-13 19:19:39

Central belt Scotland

Ha, I thought Bernese Mountain Dogs couldn't jump to save themselves until I watched overgrown puppy sail over a five foot fence from a sitting position. To be fair, it was to get to me but have learnt my lesson about how high dogs can jump when it suits them. She also climbs - no-one warned me about that.

mrslaughan Fri 26-Apr-13 19:20:00

I think in al honesty, when choosing your second you need to match energy levels between the dogs, I think your Bernese, if a little precious about another dog, will get over it quicker if it's not joining around when she just want to chill.

mrslaughan Fri 26-Apr-13 19:33:42

Hooning - not joining, bloody auto correct

Blistory Fri 26-Apr-13 19:38:14

She'd be happy with a nutter - she's still very puppylike herself but doesn't have the stamina to keep going all day. I'm just not sure how she would take to sharing me with another dog full time as any other dog gets gently pushed away if I'm petting it so that she can also get petted. I think she'd be too full on at this age to put an older dog with otherwise I'd happily take on an oldie.

She's actually a fantastic dog - happy to be lazy when I am, happy to be full on when I am, happy to chill in the garden by herself as long as the door is open and she can watch the sheep/cows, happy to race around with other dogs. Actually, she has the life that I want. Damn.

lotsofdogshere Sat 27-Apr-13 09:03:35

You are going to do this aren't you - go for it. I got a third dog last summer, recognising I'm not 29 anymore, and our old rescue boy's earthly powers were waning. I'd had rescues for years, not a proper puppy for over 40 years - I was so focussed on helping rescues settle and feel safe, and aware of their issues, I had forgotten how demanding having a pup is. House training during last summer was horrible, standing in the garden, wellies and brolly, wiping the pups huge, muddy feet so many times a day. Wonderful - go for it x

digerd Sat 27-Apr-13 10:14:59

Dogs with a thick coat as in OES and St Bernard, cannot cope with being in an office/house with central heating on.
My FIL's gorgeous St.B, wouldn't come into the house in winter and stayed outside - a wooden hut surrounded by fir trees.

digerd Sat 27-Apr-13 10:17:05

ps
And the cat would snuggle up with him.

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