Does anyone else have a dog with no concern for their own personal safety?

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Took Jas to the park. He ran about doing normal, doggy things and then randomly tried to scale a wall. He managed to cock it up, and crash in to the top of the wall with his chest and face plant on top of it. He now has grazes all over his chest, chin, and back legs. He keeps showing me his sore leg as if to say 'WTF?! Did you do this?!' hmm This sort of thing is a fairly regular occurence, btw. He is permanently covered in scabs where he has dived through hedges or barbed wire, and on one memorable occassion he sliced most of his pad off on broken glass but still kept running. Is it a spaniel thing? <ponders>

ISplashPuddles Fri 22-Mar-13 10:31:06

yep. I have a spaniel. thick as shit, but i love him

gymmummy64 Fri 22-Mar-13 10:57:31

There's a lot of leaping before looking over here too. We were on the Cornish coast recently (cliffy) and Gymdog was not let off the lead once. Far too risky.

Going after foxes is a worry. Fox runs seem to be in thick spiky brambley areas and Gymdog is bigger than a fox... Plus what on earth would happen if he managed to corner one? Doesn't bear thinking about but certainly doesn't deter him. I'm forever picking spines out of him.

Fast flowing rivers are another worry.. It's a minefield out there! <well, not literally obviously, do not live in actual battlefield>

ISplashPuddles Fri 22-Mar-13 11:03:57

DH had a right moan at me for 'being stupid' and not letting our spaniels off on a coastal walk. he just didnt get that i wasnt stupid but spaniel bollocks is and he would be off. - especially if he saw the sea!

God, yes. No way could I let my spaniel off near a cliff. He'd chase a bird, or a leaf...<shudder> He chased a cat up a tree yesterday, but can't work out 'up'. To him, the cat just disappeared. He ran around and around the tree, sniffing, then crying. The cat watched him from its branch with scorn.

I am always pulling thorns out of random spaniel parts here, too.

ISplashPuddles Fri 22-Mar-13 11:16:02

mine REALLY wants to play with my cat, just like biting and stuff, but doesnt like the end with teeth. He is obsessed with the cats arse. He will chase cats ( not mine tho because he is a psycho) but only if my other dog chases them also.

like wise with horses, on his own he doesnt give a hoot ( in fact he pays so little attention he actually run INTO a horse because he wasnt looking) but with my other dog they both want to eat horses!

gymmummy64 Fri 22-Mar-13 11:22:16

Chatting to English Heritage guy at Tintagel Castle (v v v cliffy) he said that a number of dogs were lost every year because owners didn't keep them on leads sad

My youngest daughter used to walk off the edges of play equipment when she was small, just assuming I would be there to catch her. Gymdog isn't a lot different really

ISplashPuddles Fri 22-Mar-13 11:29:35

really gummy? thats horrible! sad

People just dont think do they? my DH doesnt.

aliciaflorrick Fri 22-Mar-13 11:29:56

My spaniel once chased a squirrel over 6 feet up a tree and got stuck. We had to call the fire brigade to get her down.

Current dog is incredibly stupid, he can't be let off the lead at all because he runs around like a nut case and chases anything that moves, including the last time he escaped a very fast moving lorry.

Giant pup ran off the edge of a really rather tall seawall not long ago. We peered over the edge fully expecting dead or at least rather shaken dog. Nope, he retrieved the ball which had rolled off, brought it up the steps, demanded we throw it again!

digerd Fri 22-Mar-13 12:17:39

Only one of my little dogs couldn't resist attacking an aggressive hedgehog which frequented our garden. She got the worst of it always - spines sticking in her lips and bleeding < plus its flees jumping all over her head>

The hedgehog was stupid too, as I put my oven gloves on and picked it up with it kicking, hissing and growling and squirming aggressively and put it over the wire fence onto the dyke.

It immediately turned round and barged back into the garden! < frustrated face>

digerd Fri 22-Mar-13 12:27:25

I also had a young male dog who picked up a toad into his mouth.

He spat it out and then vomitted lots of horrible white GLUE type stuff, which stuck to the rag and couldn't be rinsed out. I was very worried, but thought that'll teach him not to do it again. He did do it again!!

littlewhitebag Fri 22-Mar-13 12:29:46

My pup is stupid too. Will crash through anything on her quest to chase a squirrel (or fox or deer). She is only 10 months and she a already a well known face at the vets as we get yet another set of injuries cleaned and looked at.

Strangely though she is very wary round deep water after the time she accidentally plunged into a deepish pool. There are endless hours of fun to be had throwing sticks into deepish (but safe) pools and watching her dance round the edge trying to figure out how to get them without going in. grin

digerd Fri 22-Mar-13 12:30:43

oops
'vomited'

mcmooncup Fri 22-Mar-13 12:31:15

I'm a new dog owner and astounded by the total mentalness of him.

I do, however, want to live his life. It's epic.

Oh, yes. You can't knock their enthusiasm. It is hard not to smile at a bonkers spaniel trying to drag an entire tree out of a pond so you can throw it for him.

FloatyBeatie Fri 22-Mar-13 12:35:53

While chasing a feral cat my dog ran off a high wall that held in an embankment. He and the cat both flew an incredible distance and landed in a road. shock Lent a new truth to the expression "raining cats and dogs."

FloatyBeatie Fri 22-Mar-13 12:37:53

He was young then, though. He is quite sensible on cliff edges now -- though I wouldn't trust to his common sense in those situations as much as I trust to a lead.

I see people wandering around our town with elderly staffs/labs/greys off lead, and the dogs just amble along next to their owner sniffing things. MY dog would cause a multiple pile up and kill himself inside two minutes. It's a lead all the way for us.

gymmummy64 Fri 22-Mar-13 12:42:11

Now Gymdog is offlead, squirrels are going to be interesting. I think the biggest danger will be not the dismemberment of squirrels, but Gymdog running into a tree..

Talking of squirrels, when are they out and about again? We're in London (v squirrely) and I've not seen a single one yet this year

We've seen squirrels here in the midlands since Christmas. I imagine they were flooded out <mutters about rain>

SpicyPear Fri 22-Mar-13 12:56:11

I hqve one of these. His motto seems to "live fast, die young, leave a furry looking corpse". No more terriers for me (until the next one...)

cathpip Fri 22-Mar-13 13:33:21

I have a spaniel who also answers to twat, his new fave game is to jump barbed wire fences, a lot. I spent last night cleaning and dabbing disinfectant on his under carriage willy and balls. As I said he answers to twat......grin

Weissdorn Fri 22-Mar-13 13:42:17

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Weissdorn Fri 22-Mar-13 13:44:47

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

You need to ask me this?

Spaniel (of course)

Fallen into deep lake twice from steep banking, currently looking like he will lose an eye or at least eventually go blind due to snaffling around in the undergrowth and getting a thorn stuck in his eyeball.

Age - ancient at 5 months. That's a whole lifetime of stress left for me then smile

Althugh, friends Vizsla has a huge cut next to her eye chasing a rabbit through bracken while we were out just now!

'Although'

Owllady Fri 22-Mar-13 15:53:28

I don't want to sound lecturing blush but if you have a dog that bolts/chases or does ridiculous thing it is a good idea to work on the down command with them as it is really useful in situations like that where you can just tell them down and relead if necessary

FloatyBeatie Fri 22-Mar-13 16:29:27

Yes, that is wise. My dog will respond to "WAIT!" if he is in mid-recklessness, but probably wouldn't if he was at all-out top-of-the-scale fever-pitch arousal. And what's needed is a wait/down that works even in those situations.

Despite his hardiness and determination, if he is not at all-out arousal he is actually quite thoughtful about the need to preserve his own life and safety. I've often seen him think twice about risky moves. Notably when (despite my best efforts) he got within reach of a cat and remembered the sharpness of cats' claws, but also when he is deciding whether or not to do an almighty leap or plunge into a speedy river. But of course he still needs me to work at protecting him from himself, so working on the "Wait!" is very wise.

Kleptronic Fri 22-Mar-13 19:29:13

I second the down command. I've a collie and he is mental, so I practice random downing everywhere with him. There's three basic types of recall; down with the dog in mid stride returning to you is the stopped recall, recall and sit in front ('present') is the 'novice' and recall mid walk/run (me and the dog) to heel. Can't remember what that's called.

If I'm stern enough, it works. Mind you he looks around for whatever it is I'm stopping him doing/chasing! I have to really mean it though, and do it regularly as part of 'play' training.

We go to dog training and the instructor recommended it, he saved his own collie from running off a cliff with the stopped recall. Instructor reckons it's the most important thing when out. Oh and always walk back to them in the down stay to avoid spoiling the normal recall.

Can you tell how mental my dog is? smile

Owllady Fri 22-Mar-13 19:47:47

I have mental collies toogrin

PseudoBadger Fri 22-Mar-13 19:54:43

My youngest bc will walk along with his attention in me and then bang into a lamp post or wall or something. My older dog actually uses his peripheral vision so avoids such stupidness.

PseudoBadger Fri 22-Mar-13 19:54:54

*on me....

My lab will walk along beside me sniffing and generally behaving himself - now. Only because he's old, slightly wobbly on his feet and cba to run anymore.

In his youth however, he had a thing for chasing buses - didn't matter if he was on a lead, or in a field in the middle of nowhere, if there was a bus he was off and nothing worked. No road sense, nor would he have cared I suspect.

TataClaire Sat 23-Mar-13 08:37:15

It's why I got collies - all my friends spaniels in this country and others all had loony adventure tendencies with no regard for safety! But they are so happy and lovable!!

I once owned a golden retriever who ploughed through a barbed wire fence and pratically disembowelled himself. He semed totally unfazed by it and wanted to carry on running. He needed so many stitches in his chest, tummy and legs that they had two vets working on the stitching. First thing he did when he got home was to jump over the stair gate. hmm

pimmsgalore Mon 25-Mar-13 21:03:19

Pimmsdog is a mad lab collie cross. He runs through everything but the most stupid thing he has done to date was chase a child upstairs at my parents and forget where he was and turn the corner as he would on our stairs. He ran straight into the wall as their stairs are straight. There was blood everywhere as he split his eyebrow open. Plenty of ice later he could just about open his eye grin

Pandemoniaa Tue 26-Mar-13 11:52:09

The Terrorist has a deal more self-preservation now that he's nearly 8. But at a 18 months old (and when being looked after by a very capable, dog-owning friend while we were on holiday) he managed to sneak upstairs and get onto her first floor window-sill. Somewhere in the dim, doggy brain he realised this wasn't the best idea he'd ever had but being unable to work out how to go backwards he launched himself into space instead. She was in the front garden when it started raining terriers and said it was one of the worst moments of her life. He landed, quite unhurt, in the flower bed having squashed the contents of it.

But of cliffs, I still remember getting the saddest of postcards from a family member who'd gone, with her lovely little dog, to Cornwall on holiday. It started with the words "We're devastated to tell you that X died yesterday after following a rabbit off a cliff edge". She said it all occurred in seconds and actually, despite normally very good recall and no great interest in chasing small furry creatures, he'd plunged to his death before she'd actually had time to call him back. So I don't let the Terrorist anywhere near cliffs off a lead. Ever.

nwdesign Tue 26-Mar-13 14:15:39

We have a Lhasa Apso, Absolute nutter but really calmed down when little Molly was born. Turned into a totally different dog!

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