Are you a Greyhound, Whippet or Lurcher owner? Come and have a seat on the newest Pointy Hounds cushion!

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TheCunnyFuntIsAGrittersWife Sun 03-Feb-13 22:15:26

Pointy hounds include-
Greyhounds (Grunds)
Whippets (Whippys)
Italian Greyhounds (Iggys)
And any others I have forgotten. If you are a new pointy hound owner, an old and experienced owner or looking into getting one of these fabulous creatures, come and have a seat (that's not taken up with a hound).

Share advice, stories and shopping tips!
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Silver Peacock

I didn’t really want you,
I wasn’t really sure,
And I’ll admit I had my doubts,
When you first came through that door.
Not small, or cute, or fluffy,
With big, soft puppy eyes,
But tall, and thin, and bony,
With bald, pink, bulging thighs.
You weren’t the kind I had in mind,
Not in any way,
“Perhaps it would be better if I took you back today,
Before we know each other,
It really won’t be kind,
To keep you here for one more day,
And then to change my mind.”
But against my better judgement, I decided you could stay,
And quickly I discovered you were kind in every way,
Your gentleness and patience, they really stole the show,
“Why these dogs are wonderful, I must let others know!”
For you’re my gentle giant,
Who just needed the chance,
To show us all what you could be,
To wipe away that history,
And dispel our preconceptions, which put us all to shame,
And so we come to know and love,
What lies beneath that frame.

And now I’ve come to understand,
What I missed right at the start,
That greyhounds need that great deep chest,
To house their great big hearts!
By Denise Dubarbier

mistlethrush Sun 03-Feb-13 22:16:56

Oooh this is a nice new, freshly washed cushion... Looks a bit like a sofa to me (based on mistlehound's preferred lounging spot anyway)

impty Sun 03-Feb-13 22:18:16

Joining... owned by a lurcher and an affie grin

LostInWales Sun 03-Feb-13 22:20:14

Lovely <turns around a few times to bed it down> time to sleep now, see you all tomorrow.

TheCunnyFuntIsAGrittersWife Sun 03-Feb-13 22:21:57

Welcome Impty! Did you join on the old one? I recognise your name.
Btw, affie?

Oooh, a new one, already? Fab grin

Whippety boy currently snoring on sofa after long walk with two friends. Between us we had one whippet, two whippet lurchers, one collie/beagle cross, one jack russel / poodle cross and one jack russel crossed with presumed sausage dog. All rescues. Mayhem!

affie - affenpinsher?

TheCunnyFuntIsAGrittersWife Sun 03-Feb-13 22:25:11

grin Lost

The Sprocket waddle may be funny but it's the waddle he does when he's desperate for a poo and just can't find a good spot and just can't hang on any longer. I'm relieved I got him outside in time! He started to squat in the dining room shock

TheCunnyFuntIsAGrittersWife Sun 03-Feb-13 22:26:10

Afghan hound? Ooh I'm jealous if it's an Afghan, they're beautiful dogs.

impty Sun 03-Feb-13 22:28:14

Hello <<waves>> no, not on the last one.
Affie = afghansmile = mad, tempremental, stubborn, hard work but heart of goldgrin
Lurcher is my soul dog though..she's my babysmile

mistlethrush Sun 03-Feb-13 22:32:21

impty - there was an afghan racing last time we took mistlehound racing (once a month, lurcher racing!) and his coat won

TheCunnyFuntIsAGrittersWife Sun 03-Feb-13 22:36:00

Ohh I'm jealous envy Can I be cheeky and ask if there's any chance of some piccies of your hounds?

<wonders if Sprocket would mind a Cher wig>

Loving the idea of sprocket in a wig.... Will get one for Sam too, they could form a double act... grin

Love Afghans, so graceful!

TheCunnyFuntIsAGrittersWife Sun 03-Feb-13 22:38:27

<Hands Impty award for first Afghan hound on the cushion>

LostInWales Sun 03-Feb-13 22:43:30

Oooh I'd love an afghan. And a salukie, couple of iggies, greyhound...

TheCunnyFuntIsAGrittersWife Sun 03-Feb-13 22:50:57

Lost when you win the lottery you should open up a Sighthound Sanctuary, you'll be able to have every pointy under the sun that way grin

It will have a lovely big enclosed field, and an enclosed section of woods. Woods are always exciting places for dogs! The kennels will be more like a load of cosy cabins, with a log fire and a comfy sofa for each hound.

TheCunnyFuntIsAGrittersWife Sun 03-Feb-13 22:52:55

Oh and its own private fenced in beach! Sandy, not pebbly.

MagratGarlik Sun 03-Feb-13 23:02:39

Coming to settle down on the new cushion.

LostInWales Mon 04-Feb-13 10:30:28

I have a field! By a sandy beach as it happens <daydreams> With dog houses that look like these chicken coops?

Just back from a fantastic walk on the beach, 6 whippets having a lovely time, recall totally lost as they found a wing and were too busy taking it in turns to run away with it to listen to hoomans. My boy actually came up and asked to go home, he was exhausted. He's had some chicken and I don't expect him to wake up much before tomorrows walk! grin

CMOTDibbler Mon 04-Feb-13 10:37:49

LostinWales - Evesham GLR have a couple of salukis just come in...

My pointy is snoozing on the sofa, having been for a 6 mile walk (for the humans, the dogs did about 60) up local hill yesterday with friends and dogs. He was vvvv good and actually recalled when in company! Bless him though, he was exhausted last night

impty Mon 04-Feb-13 13:08:36

Thanks for the welcome. I have uploaded some photos of the hounds on my gallery, if you want a peek. At least I think I have....

The hairy beast is sleeping after his monday morning shower and blow dry grin

popsgran Mon 04-Feb-13 14:01:20

Hi there,large fawn male greyhound is upside down on the sofa as I write.resting his legs on a tiny jack russell.Black female greyhound asleep on a foam bed covered by vet bed.Bliss.

TheCunnyFuntIsAGrittersWife Mon 04-Feb-13 14:50:05

Those are amazing chicken coops!! Yes! The kennels will be like that exactly! They are fantastic grin

Impty your profile is set to private I think. grin shower and blow dry. Does his coat take a lot of looking after then?

Welcome Pops smile your hounds sound lovely, you have both my favourite colours of greyhound!

bryte Tue 05-Feb-13 13:11:25

Hello again. I hope to become a bit more active here when things settle down. We've had our gorgeous, scruffy, rough coated lurcher for almost two weeks and she has wormed her way into our hearts. It took about a week. I kept saying to DH that I didn't think I had bonded with her and then I had some time with her at home by myself and just loved having her around. She's a very sweet natured dog. Now it seems DH and I are fighting for attention from her and our children are not getting a look in with the dog or us grin I haven't been able to get any good photos yet though.

mistlethrush Tue 05-Feb-13 13:37:40

Bryte - mistlehound started off by being very much a Daddy's dog... but has changed her tune more recently, despite DH working from home, and taking her for a walk every morning before starting...

bryte Wed 06-Feb-13 19:18:59

Do your pointies sleep on the sofa or a dog bed? And if they sleep on the sofas, do they also have a dog bed? And if so, what type?

TheCunnyFuntIsAGrittersWife Wed 06-Feb-13 19:38:09

Sprocket has 2 beds, downstairs is just a folded up double duvet inside an empty 'nest' bed (the cushion for the bed was shite so I got rid of it) and upstairs he has a memory foam bed (bargain off ebay!) with a folded up double duvet on top.

I think it's better for them to have a bed of their own. If they just had the sofa they could get protective over it and you'd be stuck on the floor! At least if they have their own bed it's somewhere for them to go where no-one else goes. If you think about it, if houndy saw the sofa as their bed, they won't want people sitting all over it. You wouldn't want people sitting all over your bed would you?

CMOTDibbler Wed 06-Feb-13 19:59:08

Ddog has a bed in his crate, and then a mat on the floor (mostly only used for eating pigs ears or bones on), plus sleeping on the sofa. Right now, he is pretending to be small by curling up on the other sofa. This will not last, and soon will be occupying most of it.

mistlethrush Wed 06-Feb-13 21:55:05

Mistlehound has a fleece pocket with a double duvet inside, folded in 4 (cover from the LL shop). She has a memory foam mattress in the hall which she studiously ignores (was previous dog's). She has a plastic basket with a 1/4 double duvet inside it in the kitchen. She has a further double duvet (normally in 1/4s, but she rearranges it) in our bedroom where she sleeps at night (we will, gradually, aim to move her out, but it was such a big change for her coming into the house having been in a barn with lots of dogs that being on her own away from us was definitely a step too far). And we have coverings on the sofa so that she can join me there too. Spoilt? Never grin

bryte Thu 07-Feb-13 11:32:51

thanks. I am on the hunt for a bed for her. I have one that was given to us that is too thin.

mistlethrush Thu 07-Feb-13 11:34:33

I know some pointies like the raised ones with the fabric sling - that you can put things like vet mat on... The duvet situation was self-chosen... I was going to cut it up into 1/4s and perhaps stack two up - but she sat on it before I could sort that out!!!

TheCunnyFuntIsAGrittersWife Thu 07-Feb-13 18:33:42
LadyTurmoil Thu 07-Feb-13 20:36:06

Blimey £100!!! shock

TheCunnyFuntIsAGrittersWife Thu 07-Feb-13 21:45:44

Sprocket would need a large or XL, so nearly £200 shock I might just persuade DP to make one with a few bits of wood, some foam, material etc. lots cheaper than 200 quid!

LostInWales Sun 10-Feb-13 17:34:20

Pet bed for life! I think they should send me one to test, whippety now lives on duvets and fleeces after he destroyed everything we could throw at him grin.

We had a lovely visitor yesterday, a 4 month old whippet puppy. She is absolutely beautiful and had our boy wrapped around her paw in minutes. After she left whippety was so sad all day that DH has agreed that another dog is indeed a possibility. He is adamant that we can only have another whippet though so I have fired of applications to every sighthound/whippet rescue I can find online (strike whilst the irons hot and all that wink) If anyone hears of a whippet needing a home, you know who to call! Where's scuttle at the moment? I really think my boy would like a smaller girl as he is a gentle soul and is always deffers to other boy dogs, will I be marked down for expressing a preferrence?

Hello I'm back! Got back from weekend of debauchery and pleasure in London - Wales now seems very wet. grin Good to be reunited with hounds though.

This is exciting news, Lost. I will see what I can do. I'm guessing you've put your name down for Scruples obviously? And how would you feel about a whippy lurcher? Adult or pup? No problem in expressing a preference - v sensible when there is another dog already in situ.

LostInWales Sun 10-Feb-13 18:05:50

DH is adamant that we can only have another 'one like that', pointing at whippety, I'm not sure he realises that there cannot possibly be another dog so gorgeous and soft and well behaved and my baby wink. So only a very very whippety looking lurcher I suppose! Would prefer a younger dog whilst the boys are young, would feel safer with a dog we had 'moulded' living with a mad 6 year old! I think we are in for a bit of a wait to get the right dog for us but tbh if we are going on holiday for 2 weeks in July it's better to wait until after that anyway.

Glad you had a fabulous weekend. Wales is indeed very, very, very wet!

Actually that's all very useful to know. I am doing a homecheck for Sid tomorrow night (look on the EGLR website) who in many ways would have suited you perfectly, but EGLR often have whippetty girls in. In fact, if you look at their FB page, I defy anyone not to fall in love with the adorable Fairy - a v young tripod whippy girl. Personally I am yearning after Maggie but a - we already have four dogs and b - she is long haired so would trigger DH's asthma. Rachel, who's the foster co-ordinator suggested meeting up for a pub lunch shortly so I could spend some time with her but I feel this is potentially fraught with danger -strong likelihood she would be smuggled home......

CMOTDibbler Sun 10-Feb-13 19:36:10

Ooh, v excited that Sid is getting a homecheck, he is gorgeous. My lurcher boy is probably mostly whippy (and is an EGLR graduate), and is lovely. And not put off by mad 6 year olds either.

LostInWales Sun 10-Feb-13 21:21:32

Sid is beautiful I hope the home is suitable for him. Actually they are all pretty gorgeous, Fairy will get a wonderful home I'm sure. Maggie would do so well at your house Scuttle, surely 4 to 5 isn't a big leap? (Sorry Scuttle's DH wink). Anyway, mustn't get carried away, plenty of time to find a suitable new baby for our family. There is a fabulous 'scruffy' haired ginger lurcher pup on one of the sites but I don't think I could pass it off as a whippet as he's already 15" at about 5 months old!

Hi all smile I am just sneaking in to ask if anyone involved in rescues could keep me in mind for any cat and child friendly GHs please. Have registered interest with GRACE but if anyone else knows of a good rescue please let me know.

CMOTDibbler Mon 11-Feb-13 19:38:39

Try Evesham GLR - they have a few youngsters in at the moment who aren't on the website yet, and several of their foster homes have cats. When we went to see ours, they had 7 cats !

mistlethrush Mon 11-Feb-13 19:41:40

I saw the perfect bedlington cross scruffy lurcher - which would have been the perfect addition with mistlehound - just big enough to curl up between her legs... but DH told me I wasn't allowed one 'whilst we both work'.... wink guess what I'm thinking about now!!!

I would adore a bedlington cross scruffy lurcher, but dh is adamant one dog is enough....
He does have a point, Whippety boy is not overly keen on other dogs, especially the in-your-face-variety, so perhaps another dog would be foolish...

mistlethrush Mon 11-Feb-13 21:41:35

Mistlehound would, I think, be very happy to have another dog to play with and sleep on....

LostInWales Mon 11-Feb-13 23:06:47

Exciting! Already had a call from one of the rescues I emailed and they are going to find someone to do a homecheck. Why do I feel the need to brew some good coffee and have liver treats baking in the oven when they come round grin

mistlethrush Tue 12-Feb-13 08:56:15

Hope the home check goes well LiW! I'm not sure mine had to do too much as I had already written reams about what we were looking for and could offer.... blush

Thanks CMOT I have sent them a message.

My son's childminder has a beddlington x lurcher, she is adorable. smile

Well, dog training class was fun tonight. Tutor asked us all to bring a box (101 things to do with a box type thing). Excellent, I thought. Something fun, something different. By the end of the class, every other dog in the class was merrily clambering in and out of the box, sitting in the box, jumping eagerly and generally interacting like mad. Norty Minx took one tiny sniff of the box, promptly lay down and went to sleep. Even when I filled the box with treats - she just decided to catch up on her rest. And of course she has had such a tiring day - 40 minute walk this morning, followed by a great deal of preparatory snoozing this afternoon. grin

Sigh. Oh well. Maybe next week.

mistlethrush Wed 13-Feb-13 23:36:47

Ah, Norty minx has an interesting idea of classes!

I took our collie / terrier (then puppy) to dog training. There was one session where we had to do a 'long down' (all of 5 mins). All the other dogs obediently settled down and had a doze. Mine started off at one end of the hall and squirmed her way (in a down, so that she wasn't 'really' misbehaving) to the other side of the hall - with quite a bit of vocal accompaniement too! grin

LostInWales Wed 13-Feb-13 23:51:39

I think whippety would have won awards for his 'down' today. He took one look at the weather and hasn't moved since wink. I think if I am ever reincarnated I would like to come back as him!

Mistle, that must have been brilliant to see. grin

The irony is that at home she is a absolute vandal with boxes! Nothing she likes more than investigating packaging and giving it a good munch.

Our tutor was very sweet and was obviously trying to think of something encouraging to say - so said "Well, her settle is very good" as she snored her way through class. blush hmm

Lost, this weather is definitely "hibernate on the sofa" time!

mistlethrush Thu 14-Feb-13 09:04:59

look at 2.08 in terms of boxes...

Mistlehound isn't a 'morning' dog... she gets up to wake DS up with me, then sometimes nips down the garden, casts a glance and an occasional lick at her breakfast and then retires back to bed... sometimes she doesn't even bother coming down stairs!

Mistle, that is such a lovely video. Has made me smile and feel all warm and gooey. smile All joking apart, that is what I love about clicker training - Norty Minx really enjoys it - she loves going to class and when we practice at home.

mistlethrush Thu 14-Feb-13 10:39:51

I think I must look into it and see if mistlehound could get to grips with it. She has managed 'sit' and 'down'... she knows she's not allowed on the bed (and slinks off it when she's made herself comfortable on DH's side (its always his side that has the muddy footprints) before I make it into the bedroom last thing at night. She's learned she's not allowed to put paws up on the counter or table (although sometimes stands on a chair seat to have a better look at the table) and her bond with us on walks is clearly pretty good - she will be free roaming - but every now and then will cast a glance in our direction to check on where we are, which is very reassuring (I'm making sure that DS doesn't constantly call her too). Is there any knack to the clicker training or is it time and treats and practise?

It's pretty straightforward. What I found hard in the beginning was the simple physical co-ordination - actually organising my hands, the clicker, the lead, the dog, especially as the treats (hot dog sausages) can get slightly greasy and make your hand slip on the clicker. What really helped me was getting a lanyard (like you get for passes at conferences/offices) with a clip on the bottom and I clipped the clicker to that - so now I always wear it round my neck. However, after a few days of practicing I noticed a huge improvement in my co-ordination and I got much, much better at clicking for the behaviour i wanted.
What I've really noticed as a result of the training is that our bond has strengthened enormously and her recall has improved dramatically, so much so that she now comes off the lead occasionally at our local park (we didn't do this before). The key is to have lots of very short practices - no more than about five minutes at a time and the brilliant thing is that it is pretty much impossible to fail. I've become completely converted. I enjoy going to class as it's really helpful to have tutor there explaining and they can pick up on things to help you improve - but the basics are all there on the internet. Really it is just so much FUN! grin Minx looks forward to class and goes in with her tail wagging - when class is over though she is exhausted. Every Wednesday night she comes home, climbs straight on to DH's sofa and immediately falls fast asleep.

mistlethrush Thu 14-Feb-13 13:23:51

Hmmm a 5 min clicker session might just be the thing when she gets itchy paws at about 8.30pm then.... She is clearly telling me something about wanting some sort of interraction (which I give) but isn't good at telling me what - just barks (very unusual) and looks expectant, and sometimes prods me with her feet or teeth snaps at me (that's done in a playful way, really! grin). <makes note to get a clicker>

Hi mistletoe. Yes five mins training is just what she needs then. Mr p has this sometimes too.
Any recs here for brushes? Mr p doesn't like his slicker. Think it catches on his bony bits

CMOTDibbler Thu 14-Feb-13 20:28:18

Ours likes doing trick training too, though I haven't started him with the clicker yet (though dpony does clicker). Fortunatly he'll do anything for a bit of chicken, so now does a nice sit/lie/stand/wait/twirl/back. He does fetch, but still sometimes runs around in circles with the object first.

Mistles dog creeping reminds me of my parents collies who weren't allowed in the sitting room, but would ooze in over the course of the evening.

Paddy, we use a soft cat brush - it gets the mud off without scratching

MrSlant Thu 14-Feb-13 21:12:09

Might have to look into clicker training, DH had a clicker and gave it a halfhearted try but he didn't get the timing right and just confused the heck out of everyone.

We had a beautiful puppy to play all afternoon, she was such a darling, I'm having to remind myself that the right dog will come to us with time and shooting off into preloved might give me instant gratification but we do not like those 'breeders' at all.

It's me by the way <wiggles her eyebrows conspiratorially > Whippety pups losty, I have had my first ever name change. <does a complicated hand shake with CMOT>

mistlethrush Thu 14-Feb-13 21:23:10

Well clicker training went quite well... had to lure up from a down to a sit - but definite progress.... and got a paw (ish) !!! which is great progress... she's not the brightest spark, but still adorable! (and I think her vertical jumps on the spot would be competition winning if I could get her to do them on command... ).

We have found a rubber curry comb (from horse tack shop) work really well for smooth coats, and not too bad on our scruffy. We've got a kong groomer which is nice and soft on the body with rubbery points

CMOTDibbler Thu 14-Feb-13 21:40:02

Nice name change MrSlant grin

MrSlant Thu 14-Feb-13 21:52:11

Doesn't Magrat have a pointy as well? There must be some skinny dog/discworld correlation. And thank you grin

mistlethrush Thu 14-Feb-13 21:59:11

She has a pointy hat.... grin Perhaps that will do?

Ooh, it's like a Discworld convention here, but with better costumes. grin

Scary namechange, MrSlant. wink

We use a hound mitt [[ this ]] on ours - Andy loves it. Stands there giving the most funny semi orgasmic groans as I stroke him. It gets masses of hair out - we end up with drifts of it in the garden pond.

You could try clicking every time she jumps mistle. That's how I managed to teach bow. Mind you I still struggle with timing and co ordination.

Think another of paddy's siblings has arrived in the rescue. This one has had an accident. Poor thing. Looks like celia cross will be working their wonders on him so fine. His sister was snapped up.

mistlethrush Fri 15-Feb-13 08:56:25

I demonstrated our 5 min training session to DH when he got home (concert) and she actually lifted her paw up - so something has gone in remarkably quickly (for her).... We will practise the 3 things again this evening and over the weekend and see if we can get somewhat quicker responses (particularly for sit after down - always a difficult one...).

I'm not sure whether the jumping is an entirely sensible thing to have on command... most people are somewhat surprised to see her head at head height (and she's jumping straight up with all 4 paws, so all paws are above hip height)... I think we'll concentrate on some of the basics first!

TheCunnyFuntIsAGrittersFiancee Fri 15-Feb-13 21:07:08

Hellooooo everybody! <waves to everyone> It's been busy here!

Paddy Sprocket has a hound mitt, one of these and a soft puppy brush.

Lost/Slant how exciting! Do you think you'll be getting a new dog quite soon then? Congratulations on the namechange too grin

What is Discworld? I've seen it mentioned on here a few times.

MrSlant Fri 15-Feb-13 21:27:24

Discworld You either love it and get joy from reading and re-reading the books or find it all a bit silly and the people who love it to be weirdy geeks grin.

Hopefully we will be a two dog family by the end of the year grin. I am happy to be patient because I realise being fussy with rescues isn't going to help but a younger bitch would fit with the family and (most importantly) with my beloved whippety boy. My friend is considering re-homing her dog as he finds escaping from their (large perimitered) property easy and legged it again this week but I said we wouldn't really want him because he is very alpha male and bullies my boy something chronic, particularly stopping him eating, and it would feel very unfair to bring another dog into the house on a permanent basis when I know he will make sure he is top dog by any means necessary. They are so different in temperament, we were on the beach and a bird landed (stupidly) close to us and for about 15 seconds they stood next to each other, brother whippet with his ears standing up and out looking for an opportunity and my boy's were practically invisible they were so far back and close to his head whilst he fretted about getting into trouble! They are like yin/yang dogs even to the point that one is dark and the other light coloured!

MrSlant Fri 15-Feb-13 21:36:06

Does that make me sound awful? I know a rescue could have problems but I know how naughty he is and hard work, plus he's stayed a few times and it's not been something I could keep up for ever. I'm too pfb to have another dog aren't I :-(

No, I think you will find a rescue dog out there who will "fit" - having two who constantly squabble isn't going to help anyone. Ironically, you always hear dire warnings about having two bitches together yet our two girls get on brilliantly - it's really lovely to see.

CMOTDibbler Fri 15-Feb-13 22:29:44

Not awful at all - you have to think of your existing dog first.

Mrpointy here wanted to play with evil ginger cat this afternoon who was sleeping in the sitting room. So, if you want someone to play, the nice way is to take them your ball, yes? For the next hour, the tennis ball was balanced on Mrgrumpy who was glowering gently while Mrpointy tried to work out what had gone wrong. Bless.

MrSlant Fri 15-Feb-13 22:39:13

I bet that's so fantastic to see, I look forward to scratching them behind the ears if you travel out west this year. How's A doing now you have a totally new 'family' around

MrSlant Fri 15-Feb-13 22:55:08

CMOT sorry but I am having a little smile at that image!

MagratGarlik Fri 15-Feb-13 23:37:05

Ahh - the conversation is getting all discworldy .. hooray. Sorry, been off MN for a couple of weeks due to too much other stuff going on. I do indeed have two pointys (and a pointy hat). I have a 3 year old whippet who is fast approaching his second gotcha day and a 7 year old (I think the rescue were being kind) grippet (grey x whippy) who is fast approaching her gotcha day too.

Cunny, the discworld refers to a magical fantasy world created by Terry Pratchett. I hate fantasy books such as Tolkein, but love TP's books because they don't take themselves seriously and take the p* out of other fantasy writers. Would definitely recommend a read. The first book is called, "The Colour of Magic" and is about a failed wizard called Rincewind. There is always a character in there that you can relate to, my favourites are the witches, death and Susan. In fact, I feel a name change coming on soon....

He has had to adjust, MrSlant but has found it hard. In spite of being so huge, he is actually a giant fluffball, with a wibbly marshmallow centre and losing both Booty and Boola in such quick succession made him quite depressed and withdrawn for some time. He has gradually settled and gets on OK with Mick, but is bossed around terribly by the two girls, so much so that we have to feed them separately or his food gets nicked and he stands there looking timid or he gets very grumpy (understandably) and we get an "incident". Sigh. He is very much a sensitive soul who thrives on routine, so we've found that giving him as much reassurance as we can in that department helps him to be happy. I think we turned a corner around Christmas - before that I was very worried about him - I think he was still grieving (as indeed we were/are) and just found the pace of change a bit overwhelming. I think we all found it hard actually - we went from being a very settled three dog household with three dogs who'd known each other for a very long period ( A and Booty were adopted within three months of each other, so he's practically never known home life without her), to suddenly having four dogs - with a completely different set of characters. Although he'd known C before when we fostered her the first time - that was several years ago, and of course then he had his special comfort blanket alive to guide him. As well, Norty Minx and C are both such confident dogs, and so outgoing - a real contrast to him, who is quite shy and solitary.
We would never have set out to have that rate of change and I certainly wouldn't recommend it, but they were fairly unique circumstances and it was definitely the right thing to do.

CMOTDibbler Sat 16-Feb-13 07:55:14

It was hilarious MrSlant - poor dog keeps wanting to play, and ginger just gives him a look of 'you and the horse you rode in on'. Last week dog was entertaining himself by rolling a ball down the stairs so he could run after it when ginger decided to sit half way down the stairs. Of course the ball eventually lodged behind him, and dog didn't dare get it back. Smug cat activated.

Lovely walk in Peckham rye where we chanced upon Hugh leach who recited a poem to us about a lurcher:
'An' a lurcher wise as Solomon an' lean as fiddle-strings
Was joggin' in the dust along 'is roundabouts and swings.' (Patrick Chalmers)
Paddy very sweetly leant against him whilst he spoke. Just wonderful

Not an every day occurrence but reminds me why our dogs are so special

mistlethrush Mon 18-Feb-13 20:54:01

I'm hoping I might get to meet CMot's recent addition....

We happened to get ours just before LL had a rebuild of their barn - necessitating all the other dogs that had been in there being found foster homes - I thought long and hard about suggesting that we might foster the other dog that had been held with ours in a pen - they looked a really well matched pair in terms of looks and clearly liked each other. However, I decided at the time that it wasn't fair on ours if we wanted her to settle down as a potential single dog - and that it might make the housetraining even more difficult. I'm glad to say he's been adopted by the person that did take him in, and we see him most months which is nice - and ours greets him very nicely.

Mistlehound got so muddy (and lets be honest, muddy from the stagnant ends of lakes) that she had to have a bath yesterday.... she does become extra soft when she's had one. I'm finding that she's already started to shed significantly - our zoom groom is getting drifts out of her, on the short haired bits too.

CMOTDibbler Mon 18-Feb-13 21:02:01

I'm hoping to see you tomorrow too Mistle! Did you get my message?

That sounds nice you two. Are you having a get-together/hound playdate for half term?

I've got a big day tomorrow. Down to Carmarthen in the morning with a group of other rescue volunteers to meet Welsh Govt civil servants to discuss concerns over new Control of Dogs Bill. And then tomorrow evening I and a friend are going to see Mary Ray at Cwmbran Leisure Centre. Should inspire me with my clicker work.

mistlethrush Mon 18-Feb-13 21:22:20

I'm hoping to meet CMot's hound tomorrow - but we (ds and I) have left her with DH - we're travelling and don't want to be leaving her in the car etc etc...

DS is now blissfully asleep and I'm quietly MNetting on a dial up in the almost dark....

Ooh, dialup, that's very retro grin

mistlethrush Mon 18-Feb-13 22:31:01

Yes, very retro.... but a lot cheaper than the alternative available via the hotel..... Luckily MN works pretty well on it.

CMot or I will update you on which gets the muddiest - her hound or one of our two boys tomorrow!!! grin

CMOTDibbler Tue 19-Feb-13 15:57:11

And our survey said: the boys got most muddy. Absolutely plastered! Cmotdog had a lovely time though, even if it was all on the lead

MagratGarlik Tue 19-Feb-13 17:09:40

Ahhhh, how lovely to have a meet up.

We've just come back from a lovely long walk on which we met a greyhound x staffie lurcher, which my two liked very much and a spaniel, which they didn't....

When we first got Jessie though she did not really know about going out for walks and was all a bit confused by the whole thing - she'd just plod along at the side of us not knowing what to do. Now, she is infuriating as she stops very few seconds to sniff literally everything so progress is very, very slow. Her recall is awful when outside the house, so she doesn't get let off the lead on 'normal' walks, only when we are somewhere secure, which means dragging her along. still, all that mental stimulation for such a lovely but intellectually challenged dog means she is very tired now.

Dp has seen a black whippy x bitch at our local RSPCA - thankfully she is frightened of black dogs, otherwise I strongly suspect he might be trying to convince of the need to give her a home.

MrSlant Tue 19-Feb-13 20:18:39

I had a whole day at work today (very unusual in the <ahem> present financial climate), as always dog sitting took priority over child sitting and it was worth it when whippey was soooooo excited to see me when I got home, made me realise how little time we spend away from each other. He really needs a friend, I think he thinks he's my actual baby blush.

How lovely that there was a cushion mini meet, I really enjoyed mine last year. CMOT I am seriously considering getting a cat just to see the look of superiority on it's face wink.

mistlethrush Tue 19-Feb-13 20:47:10

It was lovely to meet up with CMot and Dibblerdog (who was lovely).

And the boys did indeed get significantly muddier than he did.

And the boys managed to get along amazingly well given how similiar they appear to be in character (strong willed and VERY talkative!!!)

Unfortunately mistlehound wasn't with us - otherwise I think the two dogs would have been really happy doing large circles together... Perhaps next time!! grin

MagratGarlik Tue 19-Feb-13 22:04:51

Perhaps a MN pointy meet at the GGG later this year?

CMOTDibbler Wed 20-Feb-13 08:09:35

That sounds like a plan Magrat - 15th Sept in Nottingham.

Mistle and I were also talking abput maybe going to the LL show and coursing weekend at Peterborough in October

MrSlant Wed 20-Feb-13 10:40:41

Goodness me I just applied for my first rescue! Scruples linked to her on FB as if they had heard us talking about what would be ideal for our family and there she was at breakfast! I know we are unlikely to get her but applying for our first real dog is a bit exciting!

That is all, I am a little too excited to think about anything other that having two beautiful hounds to play with grin if not her there will be one for us.

MagratGarlik Wed 20-Feb-13 10:46:00

That's so cool, MrSlant. Which one is she? (Nosy).

Very excited for you.

MrSlant Wed 20-Feb-13 14:11:08

Milly, she was linked to another rescue on FB but after I called and checked she was ok with children and filled in the form the called me back and I was on the phone to my mum and so someone else has reserved her. To say I am fed up and pissed off is an understatement, and I never phone my mum, we aren't exactly friends I just thought it would be nice of me. I am not never being nice ever again.

MrSlant Wed 20-Feb-13 14:11:39

<repeats 'there will be the perfect dog, there will be the perfect dog, there will be the perfect dog'>

mistlethrush Wed 20-Feb-13 14:14:19

What, actually, are you looking for - does it have to be a pb whippet or are you looking for something pointy that won't be too big?

MagratGarlik Wed 20-Feb-13 14:19:14

<<through gritted teeth>> you can take my grippet if you like... She has piddled next to the front door again.... (sigh).

It's not as though they don't get enough walks and she refuses to pee in the garden, apparently the carpet near the front door being preferable hmm.

Disclaimer: we love her really.

MagratGarlik Wed 20-Feb-13 14:23:32

What about Suki - she looks lovely.

MrSlant Wed 20-Feb-13 14:32:46

DH is adamant that we can only have another whippet, I would take anything pointy up to and including a deerhound wink. Anyway, there is time yet, I was amazed that the perfect sounding dog was out there for us but if there was one there will be another. Is Suzi the black and white 4 year old (memory getting fuzzy through looking at 5,000 rescue sites since morning?) if so I think she looks lovely. Although not being house trained might be hard work with an older dog, I will show DH when he gets in.

MagratGarlik Wed 20-Feb-13 14:36:41

That's the one. She's being fostered in Cardiff apparently.

mistlethrush Wed 20-Feb-13 14:50:22

My experience (from looking recently) is that, if they hit the proper website you've left it too late - you need to be home checked and on the appropriate forum that has 'will be coming soon' and 'look what just came in' and 'can anyone temporarily foster' etc. I am sure that the right dog will turn up for you, even if this one was not meant to be....

MrSlant Wed 20-Feb-13 14:52:36

<puts down phone> Already got someone interested apparently but if I send an email they will consider us as to who is more suitable. hmm So why didn't the first place do that then? I'm going to get confused if it's half 'first come, first served' and half being judged. I have to leave this for today, I'm already cross because of humans being confusing, no need to add more of them to my list. Just enough time for snuggles with my whippet before the mad hordes come home.

MrSlant Thu 21-Feb-13 07:58:02

Hey come back everyone <does her special two finger whistle> I'm in a better mood today blush.

Was it training last night Scuttle? Was the box chewed or left (and which is best, I was a bit confused last week.

CMOTDibbler Thu 21-Feb-13 08:26:31

Sounds a bit odd MrSlant. But the right dog will come along for you - we'd phoned up about another dog who wasn't suitable and were offered ours who hadn't even come in at that point

mistlethrush Thu 21-Feb-13 08:33:53

That's the sort of thing I was talking about CMot.

If you were a dog rescue, if there was a dog that lots of people expressed interest in, would you send it to the first one - which perhaps wasn't ideal but 'might do' or pick the one that you thought would meet the dogs requirements best? I'm sure that there's a dog out there that would meet most requirements - its just a case of matching up the dog's needs and the potential owner's needs best so that both dog and owner get a good deal.

We were introduced to two dogs when we visited. DS wanted the first one - she was nice, had lovely fluffy ears, was living inside, housetrained, crate trained... The second one was living in the barn with another dog, probably not housetrained, bit bigger (not a positive) - but there was just a sort of connection there. We took the second one - we thought that she would be a little sturdier for playing with DS and there was that connection there - and we also thought that the first dog would find a home pretty easily (very overtly pretty)(she did) whereas this one, with its potential housetraining and escapology, might not. She is an absolutely lovely dog and perfect for us (now that the housetraining is sorted!!!).

There does appear to be a lot of empty space between her ears though!!! grin

MrSlant Thu 21-Feb-13 08:34:02

I know, I totally believe that the right thing always comes along at the right time, I really don't think anyone should phone rescues if they are already grumpy. <listens to 6 year old wailing> maybe I'll leave looking for today...

mistlethrush Thu 21-Feb-13 08:47:49

The other thing to realise is that, sometimes the people in the rescues might come across as abrupt or grumpy themselves. But don't let this put you off. They're probably dealing with significant numbers of time wasters, people wanting to dump dogs on them, unsuitable people demanding dogs etc etc etc - when they work out that you don't fall into any of those categories they'll probably have a bit more time for you! grin

MagratGarlik Thu 21-Feb-13 21:58:45

Took our dogs to the beach today. We don't go often as we live a long way from the closest. Well worth it though. They had a whale of a time running and sniffing and playing with other dogs.

So lovely and so relaxing.

SorryMyLollipop Thu 21-Feb-13 23:04:19

Hi all. I am new here.

I am homing a greyhound next week and I am very excited grin

Can anyone tell me what size dog bed would suit an average sized greyhound? Large? Extra large? Measurements?


Looking forward to getting to know you all

mistlethrush Fri 22-Feb-13 08:24:05

We got one of these fleece covers made for us in a 1.15x 1.15m size because that takes a double duvet folded into 4 which is a really convenient size.... Our dog finds that perfect size wise - and she's medium greyhound length even if they have an extra 3" on their leg length. I like that option as we get cheap duvets from a supermarket - and have several spares - so they're easily swapable to wash, the cover itself dries really quickly. She also folds herself up into a smallish dog bed in the kitchen (with another bit of duvet in, covered) - but sometimes makes it look as though a second dog would fit in there with her. The nice memory foam bed (from our old dog) which I thought she would like doesn't get used at all.

However, your greyhound might actually prefer sharing the sofa - we also have picked up a number of fleece throws which again dry quickly - to make it easy to keep the sofa OK grin

CMOTDibbler Fri 22-Feb-13 08:53:30

Greyhounds do like to spread out - our dog bed is an xxl, and we have lots of fleece throws for over the dog bed, on the sofa, in the car etc

MrSlant Fri 22-Feb-13 15:05:00

Probably your king size double bed would do, if you and your other half are happy to cling to the outer edges and give the dog all the duvet ;-) Might be easier to just shortcut the whole procedure and get yourselves comfy dog beds and leave the main bed for the hound! Sorry, I do second getting lots of fleecy throws though, easy to clean and dry and you can put them wherever the dog decides it wants to sleep. Folded over cheap duvets are great too. I'd wait until you see if you have a dog bed destroyer until you buy anything too nice. Whippety seemed to consider 'lifetime' beds a particular challenge.

Today I have been mostly studying so I brought whippety boys bean bag and fleeces round to where I work and he has slept peacefully at my feet ever since his morning run. I am most jealous.

mistlethrush Sun 24-Feb-13 20:18:05

I gave mistlehound a really good walk this morning- we were out for at least 2 hrs, she had a lovely run with a collie, met lots of other dogs, had a play with DS, chased lots of sticks, looked for squirrels - I thought she would manage without a 2nd walk - but no, teeth snapping started at 5pm and I thought we would have a completely disturbed evening so gave in and took her out again. (Not feeling well, have crampy stomach, but the dog hasn't worked that one out, and DH has had gastric flu over the weekend so down to me...)

MrSlant Sun 24-Feb-13 21:53:39

Goodness, whippety had a good run this morning and has been asleep ever since. He did learn how to play fetch though so he is probably mentally exhausted! Is mistlehound a greyhound or lurcher? I really need to start a spreadsheet wink People keep offering me collie/whippet crosses but I am far too lazy to cope with an intelligent whippet that needs lots of stimulation and exercise!

mistlethrush Sun 24-Feb-13 22:01:23

She's a lurcher... we've been told she's got some Bedlington in there - but beyond that, who knows! Apart from the fact that there's a lot of empty space between her ears (so probably some greyhound?) (and deliciously scrummy, lovely, licky and currently upside down with her paws in the air next to me!!!!)

MrSlant Sun 24-Feb-13 22:13:54

Is that her in your photo's? She is so pretty. Empty space between ears is indicative of whippet too I think. He's pretty much mensa level for his breed now he can chase a ball and actually bring it back for me to throw again. I love the upside down with paws in the air thing, I swear my boy is posing like a super model when he does it. Pointy hounds really are lovely grin

mistlethrush Sun 24-Feb-13 22:29:46

Yes, that's her - she is very pretty... she could show many a posh hairdressing salon how you should do red hair with blond highlights with a somewhat windswept style....

I'm not worried at the lack of matter between the ears - she's got sufficient to have worked out that she needs to keep an eye on where we are on a walk (which given her origins is a major plus) and listen to the instructions given (I rarely have to use 'the voice' on her - but if I do she does obey).

The main thing is that she's really good with DS - she's very positive towards people in general (even though she's clearly been kicked in the past) and she's clearly developed a really good bond with us.

asleb Tue 26-Feb-13 20:51:10

Hi, I'm new to this thread but I've been lurking on it for a while now smile

We adopted a retired greyhound a week ago, beautiful boy, 2 and a half years old. All going pretty good at the moment apart from a few wees in the house, but we are working on that and he does mostly go outside!

I was just wondering if I could ask all you more experienced owners a question about muzzles? At the moment we always put his one on to go out for a walk. He's doesn't second glance at dogs or people etc but when he sees a cat he just stands and stares (literally rock solid, can't move him for ages!).

We had a slight incident on Saturday and he managed to slip his collar. DH was walking him and dog saw a cat, backed out of his collar and DH said he didn't go mad chasing for he but more so trotted over to it. Anyway, the cat scratched his face and then DH said he did want to chase it and bolted after him! Total nightmare! shock Cat got away thank god, but poor dog fell over and had cuts all over him so I took him to the vet.

It was totally our fault, when dh showed me how tight the collar was it definitely wasn't tight enough (dh thought it would hurt his neck being tighter!). So anyway, shook up dh a bit so we brought him a harness, more so that dh feels better about walking him!

Anyway, my question is do you muzzle your greyhound on a lead? Most greyhounds round here I've noticed don't have them (only seen one that did). How do you know when it's safe not to?? Because you don't want to wait until they grab a cat so how would you know that they wouldn't do that if given the opportunity? I would rather walk him without the muzzle as although he doesn't mind it going on but does rub his head a lot on the ground to try and get it off after. Is this okay if he is on a lead?? (without a loose collar of course!). And what about in the garden? I'm a bit paranoid in case a neighbours cat was out there and I can't see it!

He's now scared of walking out now too ever since this happened and just stands there and we have to coax him down the road sad. Sometimes I literally have to start dragging him a bit or we would never move at all! I'm hoping he will get his confidence back soon? Thanks for any advice and its nice to be able to join you all! smile

mistlethrush Tue 26-Feb-13 21:00:11

Have a read of this about collars. I found it very useful, and without having read it and taken head of it, mine would have escaped from me about 3 days in when out in the evening.

I have a friend with 2 greys (I have a lurcher) - they are now about 9. When walking them he always has their muzzles with him, and if he sees sheep in the direction they are walking (they are only walked on the lead) they have their muzzles put on, just in case. They don't like other dogs either so have them on if they're going anywhere near places where other dogs are likely.

With the nervous behaviour I have seen a number of pointy (and other) owners talk about the thundershirts very positively - you might find whether this is likely to help by putting him into a Tshirt and tying it close around his waist - for some dogs this really seems to help with nerves. You could try a DAP collar or a bandana with DAP spray on too just to help with nerves.

mistlethrush Tue 26-Feb-13 21:01:14

(My lurcher has a muzzle but only for racing. Other lurcher owners have to muzzle their lurchers on walks because of rough playing and the danger of tears to sensitive skin)

asleb Tue 26-Feb-13 21:28:21

Thanks for the quick reply thistle. I noticed that thundershirt in the pet shop the other day and was wondering if they worked so ill definitely try that t shirt idea and see if it helps (also I'd quite like to see him dressed in a human's t-shirt anyway grin). I'll also look in to the DAP products.

So maybe I should stick with the muzzle for a while to gauge his reactions a bit more? I keep worrying if a friendly cat walked up to him what would happen. It's quite possible he would just sniff it or something but its hard to tell and I don't really want to test the theory! It's a shame I've already noticed the bad responses to muzzles though sad. I can see some people give him a bit of a funny look and practically back away like they are assuming he would bite them! I'll always keep it on him if necessary though of course. Almost feel like explaining to everyone why he wears it as he's such a gentle soul!

mistlethrush Tue 26-Feb-13 21:36:04

Its early days - I think its really sensible to use a muzzle and wait and see whether you're confident to take it off in time - or not.

Muzzle fear: 'he's been trained and bred to chase, and I don't want anything unfortunate happening just in case he manages to get away from me - he's not at all aggressive and loves people... ' perhaps would be something good to practise?

I usually walk mistlehound on a slip lead - I'm sure that I would have lost her if I had had her just on her (rescue supplied and fitted) collar - but because she was on the slip lead and I had just adjusted it properly before leaving the house, she just flew about and twisted on the end. It was really scary. She now has her tags on a martingale - but we rarely use that with a lead.

Welcome Asleb, and congratulations on your lovely new pointy friend. smile

We muzzle some of our greyhounds routinely. A couple of good reasons:- firstly, he is a gannet and will find dumped/abandoned foodstuff if it's there to find, and can eat it faster than I can stop him. shock Especially in the summer, our local parks seem to be awash with half eaten burgers, chicken bits etc. Apart from the danger of eating cooked chicken bones, I really don't want him eating anything unknown. Muzzle is a handy way to sidestep this. You will know your own dog and your regular walks better so this may or may not be relevant.

Secondly, this particular dog has a high prey drive and will chase anything that is small, furry and running. Also obsessed with cats. I see the muzzle as a sort of insurance policy. It's my job as his owner to walk him nicely on the lead and only let him off where and when it is absolutely safe to do so. The muzzle gives me the extra layer of reassurance so that if I am bending down to pick up poo, or accidentally trip over and fall, or need to tie my shoelace, and accidentally drop the lead then the muzzle is there to help us. Even if the local Yorkshire Terrier convention came round a tree the muzzle will give us extra time and also says to other people that we are being responsible dog owners who take safety seriously.

I'd also think about what collars and leads you use for walking. The rescue should have advised that you should use either a traditional fish tail collar in leather or a martingale collar, with a lead that is NOT an extending one. They can break a sighthound's neck and are the devil's work. We have martingale collars - you can get some lovely ones, they are very comfy for the dog, and are secure too.

And can we see some pics please? grin

With regard to the nervousness on walks, remember if he is straight from racing, there will be much in your everyday life that is still very new for him and strange, and he is still adjusting. (And greys are not noted for their brains, bless them wink).

Have you thought about using a clicker and treats? Lots of fun, easy to use and will really strengthen the bond between you and be an enormous help for any future training you do.

asleb Tue 26-Feb-13 23:11:15

I'm definitely going to memorise that muzzle fear line there mistle!

Thanks for all the extra tips there scuttle. I actually noticed you on lots of the older greyhound threads when I was searching through them and was thinking how helpful you were to everyone smile.

Yes I think we will definitely stick with the muzzle for a while yet as I would much rather do that then have to see any small furries, especially people's pets, get killed. I couldn't think of anything worse, I'd feel awful shock

The place we got him from are affiliated with the retired greyhound trust so we did get a fish tail collar and lead but it was just our fault for not putting it on tight enoughsad. The martingale collars look good, so they are very secure and definitely won't slip off? (I am so paranoid now!)

I have thought about clicker training. I read the whole of greyhounds for dummies in the week before we got him blush and read a lot about it in that and it looks good although I know I would be a bit confused doing it as me and dh are both new to owning a dog (as adults anyway) and we are a bit dim about all of it at the moment! I wondered about going to dog training classes or getting a trainer to come round and help teach me how to do it properly?

Can't believe, I thought we had cracked the weeing in the house as he hadn't done it a couple of days then today he did it twice. I know he's still confused with the size of the house and realising he can't go everywhere so I follow him round like a hawk when he sniffs and he lifted his leg up upstairs this morning so I just said a firm no which stopped it and lead him straight outside where he did more wee then I praised him loads. Then about an hour ago dh gave him a little bit of left over fish cake (which he loved!) and then he just stood there as he finished and did a massive wee which went all over the plate and his bed in the kitchen?! He had been out a couple of hours before for a wee, maybe he just really needed to go and didn't know how to tell us? This is all very new for us but I expected things like this so I'm not too shocked (especially after reading that book!) but I am surprised he went right where he sleeps and eats in the kitchen? confused (He in there at night too, he seems really happy in there, just sleeps all night)

I've put a pic on too smile

Oh, he is so gorgeous! Really handsome. That red fawn colour is very striking.

Don't worry about the weeing too much. It's still early days and he's getting the hang of it. For a lot of them, eating is a trigger, and in fact we religiously send all ours out after meals and snacks, to avoid that happening. Keep reminding yourself that he is a very loveable bear of little brain, and you need to do the thinking for him. They thrive on routine, and will get better at "telling" you they need to go out as well - again, remember they haven't had to do that before.

I'd definitely recommend doing classes - we do them and they are so much fun, and also v practical. You will massively improve and strengthen the bond between you too (which is lovely). Quite a few rescues actually run regular workshops or training sessions on things like recall etc. Alternatively look on the APDT website. Always make sure you use a trainer who uses positive methods and it's worth asking if they've had sighthounds in their classes before. One thing to bear in mind is that many greys can't sit - your trainer may not know this if not experienced with pointies. So for exercises using sit, we do a nice stand stay instead.

Oh, and collar porn is one of the chief pleasures of pointy ownership! grin

mistlethrush Wed 27-Feb-13 13:08:35

I like the way a martingale sits lower on their neck and a good wide one looks good and doesn't make their necks look quiet so long.

Ours does look best without one though - but this happens rarely and never out of the house.

And we haven't talked about tassels yet..... wink

CMOTDibbler Wed 27-Feb-13 19:09:55

Don't talk to me about tassels <hands over ears> - I really like them, but dh doesn't. Cmotdog does have 3 martingale collars though.

Cmotdog is fairly bright for a lurcher, and is now up to the dizzy heights of retrieving a stated object. Ds is still trying to teach him to roll over, which is more tricky!

gymmummy64 Wed 27-Feb-13 19:34:21

I hope you don't mind my asking a greyhound-related question on your thread. My rescue dog has been through a period of reactiveness to other dogs that is now much better under control. Before we got to grips with it he was inviting all sorts of unwanted, often aggressive approaches from other dogs. He was attacked several times which all got into a vicious circle. Now he looks at me rather than other dogs, in the main the only ones that come over are those wanting to play rather than those that come over already bristling. I think maybe Gymdog had been using quite provocative body language before, quite possibly unintentionally as he really was very inexperienced with other dogs I think.

However, we do seem still to have a bit of an issue with greyhounds and after an incident today I'm wondering if it's him, or them or we've just been unlucky. I don't want to generalise, but the majority of greyhounds we have met really do seem interested in him in a way other dogs don't seem to be any more and it's not in a friendly way. The one today was typical - I don't think Gymdog had even noticed it at first but it went into a low, very slow approach which really looked quite menacing (to me). It continued to stalk us for quite some time as I put Gymdog on a lead and walked in the opposite direction in this very slow, crouched position. It was so quiet that I thought it had gone, but then suddenly it ran very fast towards us and my dog went ballistic. It's very far from the first time we've been stalked very slowly by a greyhound using this type of body language and I don't like it!

So, is this usual? Do greyhounds often stalk other dogs like this? As I was trying to explain above, I don't think Gymdog is being provocative any more and the grief from other breeds has all but stopped. The greyhounds we meet are often walking with groups of other dogs (the one today was with a labrador) so I know we're not just meeting antisocial ones, but we almost always get the same reaction.

Gymdog is a retriever collie cross (?), maybe around 2yo, neutered, about the size of a labrador and orange. I've had him nearly 6 months now. Thanks in advance for your expertise!

asleb Wed 27-Feb-13 21:52:01

Tassles! Wow, i had to google what they were. Very impressed! I've been looking at lots of the martingale collars and love them, very posh wink. So these are really really safe and really hard for them to get out of right?? I'm so paranoid about losing him now as I have no idea whether he would come back if he bolted off.

I've emailed a local dog trainer tonight who does 1 to 1 lessons and uses positive training techniques so ill see if she has any experience with greyhounds when she gets back to me.

No accidents in the house today, hooray smile. He's been great when we have left him too. We built it up really slowly the first few days but we have left him a couple of hours now and he literally whines for about 10 seconds when we walk out the door then goes quiet and when I sneak round the back door and look through the window he's always asleep so I'm assuming he's happy smile.

mistlethrush Wed 27-Feb-13 22:03:43

If you're concerned at the moment, walk him in a collar and a harness with a lead on both.

Martingales can be got out of - but its more difficult than collars that don't reduce in size.

gymmummy: my lurcher will drop down when she sees a dog that looks as though it might be good to play with - she then watches intently. The run in from there is generally fairly quick and often slightly stooped. But she wants to play.

I understand that Jim Greenwood is starting his classes again - he seems to train a range of breeds, including pointies - but he has dogs that help dogs work out socialisation and appropriate play too.

Collars: we've only sucummed to one so far - it suits her. I wouldn't get away with tassles though.

Gymmummy, - we have four greys at the moment and they have nver done this with a non-grey. Usually with greys they know, there will be a play bow and jumping/darting about - the prowling sounds quite odd!

A well fitting martingale is as secure as any collar can be - you need to keep an eye on the fabric and check it occasionally. Funnily enough, our dog trainer is running a Recall Workshop in a few weeks, we are taking one of our greys to it.

Asleb - it sounds as though you are making great progress. smile

asleb Thu 28-Feb-13 12:13:03

Took slebdog out for a mega long walk this morning and I decided to put his other coat and fishtail collar on him (but I did it up to the last hole, which definitely seemed better) and I couldn't believe it. Totally back to his old self, trotting along all confidently. I think it may be because this coat is tighter and we had been putting this other one on him, thinking the first one was too tight but after you mentioned those confidence type jackets mistle, I'm thinking it could be that? He must have not liked the new coat and harness as well.

Bumped into a friend who has 2 dogs and one is really small and he barely looked at them so that was great. Bumped in to another friend nearer home and a cat was strolling past then it sat there looking at him and whoah, totally different. He was going bananas jumping up and down and whining all excitedly. He really wanted to get it! So it was interested to see his reaction and the muzzle will definitely be staying on. Is there any way of training them to ignore cats a bit more or is it impossible when they have that high prey drive?

Also, just general doggy related question, what do you do when their poos are a bit runny? He's are generally soft (sorry tmi!) and fine to pick up, but some have been runny, I think where he is settling. I've been giving him a bit of live yogurt that someone advised to me and also got these tablet things called stool firm um from the pet shop? I'm feeding him the same food he was eating before at the kennels too. But it's impossible to pick up when I'm out and I feel really bad leaving it there?

Totally knackered him out now bless him!

mistlethrush Thu 28-Feb-13 12:31:50

Stress is bad for stomachs - we found ours can't take turkey either.

What are you feeding him as there are lots of foods that are not great for pointies (although some do fine on them). Some people advocate raw feeding even (ours likes chicken wings and we'll do that occasionally for some meals but not on a permanent basis now she's settled on something that appears to be working).

Cats - I don't think so - even if you could get him to tolerate a big bossy one, he would probably still run after one that's running away.

asleb Thu 28-Feb-13 12:45:56

The place we got him from gave us a huge bag of dry dog food that they normally feed their dogs, called 'odds on' from the local track. She said to soak it in some warm water and mix half a can of wet food in there too and she recommended butchers saying there is more meat. Does that sound okay? Yes I was thinking it was probably still the stress of being in a new home so was hoping it would just settle down itself really?

Looks like we just have a high prey drive dog then! It would be nice if he didn't go so crazy for them, I literally had to hold him back as I started getting all paranoid about the collar again (Even though I'm practically 100% sure he couldn't slip it this time!).

mistlethrush Thu 28-Feb-13 12:51:09

chappie is the normal 'wet food' (in a tin) recommendation for pointies...

Butchers appears to get some bad press in dried form - not sure about the tinned.

Ours will happily chase cats and foxes but misses squirrels and rabbits that I've seen - I can see why she failed at being a worker which is what we think she was in her last life. I wouldn't say that chasing a cat means that he has a high prey drive (our last dog chased cats very enthusiastically and had a low prey drive and was pushed out of the way, aged 4, by my parents' 14yo collie/terrier cross so that she could catch the rabbit that had just run past).

CMOTDibbler Thu 28-Feb-13 12:54:29

Cmotdog has a sensitive tummy, and we feed him dry food (James Wellbeloved), and as long as he doesn't hoover anything like cheese or bread up, his poo is OK now.

With the cats, try distracting him with a treat and 'watch me' when theres something you don't want him thinking about. We have three cats, and though our dog is cat safe, one of them is a runner and he would just run after her at first. I keep a squeaky ball with me to distract from any running around in the house - now he's not doing it nearly as much. Bolshy cat is in charge though!

asleb Thu 28-Feb-13 14:28:49

I tried distracting him with a treat and calling him when he spots a cat and it doesn't matter what I'm holding, he has no interest in it whatsoever! He just stands rock solid staring (can barely budge him!) and when the cat gets closer he starts going bananas to get at it.

That's interesting about the prey drive mistle - so how exactly do they class a dog as having a high prey drive? Is it if they actually want to catch and kill?

Do you soak your dry food CMOT? Maybe I'll try introducing that brand slowly if its good on sensitive tummys.

mistlethrush Thu 28-Feb-13 14:33:39

Mine's on JWB too - but the lamb not the turkey - no, not soaking it.

I think high prey-drive = anything under knee height likely to be viewed as acceptable prey and killed.

Although we had a collie/terrier cross who had a high prey drive - which meant that she spent her time on walks slaughtering the local rabbit population and catching the occasional pheasant.

Ours would like to eat the chinchilla - but its quite understandable really!!! Based on recent evidence its the closest that she'll get to anything like a squirrel or rabbit.

CMOTDibbler Thu 28-Feb-13 14:56:57

You have to work on the 'watch me' when theres nothing exciting around - and use high value treats like sausage rather than kibble, so the value in ignoring is really good. If you know someone with a feisty cat, you could work up to practicing (muzzled) with them. Or if you are near Worcestershire, you'd be most welcome to come visit ginger git cat.

We soak dog food for 5 mins on the advice of the trainer. Dog also gets pilchard or sardines a couple of times a week.

Our failed greyhound adoption turned out to have a high prey drive - he'd see the rabbit in his hutch and go totally nuts trying to get in there. Cmotdog doesn't and just touches noses with the rabbit through the mesh hmm

NiceCupOfTea Thu 28-Feb-13 15:13:18

gymmummy64 - your experience with the greyhound sounds familiar. I have a grey which drops down into a stalking motion when she sees some dogs. Sounds like the grey you met was off-lead? Mine is always on-lead. When she sees a dog she doesn't like the look of, she'll focus on it intently, drop into a slow stalk and lean on my leg. I'm used to the signs now and can distract her with food or turn away/cross the road if possible to increase the distance. In the early days, her stalking was usually followed by a swift lunge with lots of snarling and noise as a way of telling the other dog to back off, sharpish. As a bit of background: she was rescued from a pound in Eire (and was probably used for hunting/coursing for at least 18 months beforehand). We saw a behaviourist last year who said that her form of stalking was not uncommon behaviour for a dog that's been attacked or intimidated by dogs in the past, and that she uses it as a defensive act. Still, the one you met seems like it meant business and I would question whether it should have been off-lead in the first place. Where was its owner? I've worked my arse off rehabilitating my girl (and will continue to do so for a long time to come), but that dog you met does the rest of us no favours at all. You definitely have my sympathy. If you see it again (which I hope you don't), can you distract it by throwing food, yelling, chucking a stuffy at it?

MagratGarlik Fri 01-Mar-13 23:21:27

I don't have anything to add on the stalking. Whippy bows down when he meets other dogs and gets defensive, but when he is off-lead he is good with other dogs.

I cannot believe there are people out there who don't know pointy collar porn though. Ours have: an everyday collar; silk house collars, christmas collars and two other collars each which we just liked. They also have about 8 coats between them...

CMOTDibbler Sat 02-Mar-13 08:36:35

Mine bows too, but its not agressive, just his invitiation to play.

Do other sighthounds scent trail, or is it just that no one has told mine that he shouldn't? He spends most of his time off lead with nose to the ground following smells

MagratGarlik Sun 03-Mar-13 00:30:58

Ours do that too CMOT, esp when the smell is something yummy like rotten fish or something equally lovely.

Jessie has given up running because woody tells her off as she runs faster than him :-)

mistlethrush Mon 04-Mar-13 09:56:50

Mine definitely works from scent most of the time and sight occasionally (she usually misses it because she's too busy tossing a stick around or something)

Norty Minx has been having more adventures. She got a little cut on her paw pad yesterday - absolutely nothing serious, thankfully. Anyway, she came home, had breakfast and settled down for essential post-zoomies nap. All good. DH and I were cleaning - DH hoovered downstairs and was wiping the various floors. He had just finished, <weeps at memory of lovely clean floors> when Minx decided to wake up, lick her paw for a bit (thus re-opening scab) then wander around the house. Kitchen floor looks like a strange psycho killer Jackson Pollock painting, our freshly changed bed now has blood all over the duvet, and the landing/stair carpet also has that fetching "spatter" finish. hmm

And of course the ILs are arriving on Friday.

mistlethrush Mon 04-Mar-13 13:51:01

We had that a few weeks ago on the beige sitting room carpet - out into the hall, up the (matching) stairs... luckily the throw on the sofa hadn't got dislodged and the bedroom doors were shut. Normally the muddy pawprints are on DH's side though grin

mistlethrush Wed 06-Mar-13 13:55:58

Wish me luck... DH is working away for the next 3 days - I have taken 1/2 days so that I can cope with both school runs together with the first thing dog walk - but still abandoning mistlehound on her own for some time... I hope all is still well when I return!

MrSlant Wed 06-Mar-13 21:53:38

OOh Scuttle, there's a dispatches programme about breeders, saw the ad and thought of you. I wonder if it will touch on the shame that is Welsh puppy farms. Did you get the floors clean wink

MrSlant Wed 06-Mar-13 21:59:17

Good luck mistle.

mistlethrush Wed 06-Mar-13 22:42:34

So far so good - she slunk out of the sitting room when I got back, She hadn't heard the car pull in the drive, so obviously wasn't really listening out for me returning. Two of my walking shoes were in the sitting room - clearly her security blanket! (they weren't chewed) grin

Hi MrSlant the Dispatches programme will be about the issue of the import of pups from Central/Eastern European countries - something which I've talked about previously on here as it has the potential to make the awful welfare in Welsh puppy farms look minor by comparison. As well as the welfare issue there is also the problem of disease control - it is not clear that anti rabies protocols are working as they should. I know a couple of the people who were involved with the making of. Sadly it is yet another reason not to buy a cheap puppy, but while we have numpties like the lady on the other post and others who just want cheap/easy/fast dogs, then there will be this problem. sad

MissBetseyTrotwood Sat 09-Mar-13 11:31:05

Hi all. I've been off MN for a while but could use a pointy hug.

Billy was attacked this morning by another dog and could barely walk home. He has a big chunk out of his right shoulder from which he's bleeding and isn't really using his right front leg much. Dog came bounding over the marshes and just went for him. The other owner has done the right thing and stayed in touch on the phone with us throughout.

Billy's at the vet, being investigated, stitched up and God knows what else. I'm so shaken and sad for him. I keep on crying. sad sad sad

TheCunnyFuntIsAGrittersFiancee Sat 09-Mar-13 12:45:42

Oh bloody hell Betsey, <big squashy hug and hand hold> I'm not surprised you're so shaken up. Poor Billy sad at least the other owner cares and is keeping in touch though which is one good thing. Let us know how he's doing.

MagratGarlik Sat 09-Mar-13 12:48:05

Crikey, Betsey, no wonder you are shaken. I hope Billy is alright.


MissBetseyTrotwood Sat 09-Mar-13 14:54:22

Still no news from the vet. She said she'd call when he was out of anaesthetic. We just went to the supermarket and I started crying in the car on the way home. I just feel really shaky and ill and horrible. My poor boy. I can't stop crying.

I should have taken his lead off so he could have run away but I just didn't think, it all happened so fast. So lucky the boys weren't with me, they'd have been traumatised.

BIG treats when he gets home.

TheCunnyFuntIsAGrittersFiancee Sat 09-Mar-13 15:27:00

It's so easy to forget these things Betsey, you'll drive yourself insane with should haves and what ifs. I hope you hear from the vet soon.

MissBetseyTrotwood Sat 09-Mar-13 18:47:41

It's shit. (Sorry to swear).

Poor Bill's had internal and external stitching. He has massive bruising that they uncovered when they shaved him for the op. The vet's worried he'll need a skin graft. The first lot of bills come to £470. I want the other owner to pay every sodding penny because then he might take a little more care with his dog around others. He says we should claim on insurance and he'll pay excess.

We might not be able to pick him up tonight. sad

Oh shit Betsey, have just seen this. Sending you and your lovely boys a huge hug. And Sam sends a shy pat to Billy x

Will read rest of thread now as am months behind sad

Tell other owner to pay up and then claim on HIS insurance. Tell him there is no way your insurance premiums should go up because he cannot control his dog.
Tell him you are also considering reporting his dog as it is clearly dangerous and he could not control it.

I would be fuming with him!

MagratGarlik Sat 09-Mar-13 19:04:55

But why should you claim on your insurance and then have to pay higher premiums in future? The other dog's owner sounds like a twat (sorry).

None of it is your fault, Betsey. If you would have let Billy off, he may have run and you could have lost him. The other owner should have his dog under control.

sooperdooper Sat 09-Mar-13 19:12:22

Oh Betsy how awful sad Yes, agree the other owner should just pay up, forget putting it on insurance, he should've had his dog under control, hope you get Billy home soon x

MissBetseyTrotwood Sat 09-Mar-13 19:29:01

The vet said that if a dog is injured like that, there's a 8 hour long 'golden window' where they can give the best treatment. He said keeping him on the lead was the right thing to do so he could be treated asap. Just about to call to find out if we can fetch our boy home tonight.

MissBetseyTrotwood Sun 10-Mar-13 08:51:47

Got him home last night, DH forgot the meds so has to go back this morning. He's very sad and sore. Huge patch shaved off his right shoulder revealing puncture wounds, lots of bruising and the stitched up chunk about 3 inches long. He's eaten and drunk and pooed and weed and inspected the garden though so must be progress.

We're putting the lounge fire on for him this afternoon (once in a blue moon event) and are going to the market to the butcher stall to get some nice bits for him.

Will take photos of wounds today and get insurance details off other owner (hopefully).

Wound's going to start itching soon - Cunny remind me what you did to stop Sprocket scratching? We're thinking several layers of snug fitting DC's socks over the back paws.

He's so withdrawn and miserable. I got up 3 times to him in the night as he was crying. Luckily he settled with a bit of stroking and belly scratching. And singing, OMG I'm a freak blush

TheCunnyFuntIsAGrittersFiancee Sun 10-Mar-13 09:44:23

Baby socks and a muzzle. The type with non slip soles, you might be able to get some cheap ones from Primark or something. DD has some, got hers from Next, think they were around a fiver for 5 pairs! Or a couple of these, although the reviews say they're velcro straps and not laces.

I'm pleased he's home now, bless him. Glad he's eating and drinking etc too, sounds like he's feeling okay.

Betsey, have only just seen this (ILs staying for weekend so not on computer much). sad angryJust wanted to give you a really quick message - sending you all lots of love and very gentle hugs. Would strongly advise contacting Dog Warden and police, and would also suggest a quick phone call to DogLaw (Trevor Cooper) to ensure all bases covered. What you don't want is this guy putting in claim/statement saying that your dog started things. Do you have any witnesses? Will be in touch again shortly. (And on Mother's Day too!!)

MissBetseyTrotwood Sun 10-Mar-13 11:33:26

Just took him for a walk and he was very very nervous - pulled the whole way round and when we bumped into people we know, people he's been fine with before (no dogs) he was terrified and really flinched.

Thanks guys - I'll go to Primark in my lunch break tomorrow and see what I can find. And thanks for that advice Scuttle - no witnesses. We do have an email from him now though, apologising profusely and hoping we can 'work things out with insurance'. Not sure what he means by that. If the apology's not an admission of guilt, we don't really have much else to go on. Billy wasn't muzzled but I had it with me; he's been so good recently and really calm at meeting other dogs.

TheCunnyFuntIsAGrittersFiancee Sun 10-Mar-13 11:48:12

If you can't find any Betsey and you don't want to spend a fortune let me know and I'll send you DDs, they just fall off her feet for some reason confused no matter how small I buy them.

MagratGarlik Sun 10-Mar-13 15:45:27

Hi all - just trying to figure out if I have managed to properly unhide this thread. I hid it yesterday by accident and still can't see it properly in the threads list...

MissBetseyTrotwood Sun 10-Mar-13 17:05:21

Aww, thanks Cunny - We'll figure it out somehow. We've probably got a builder starting the garden soon who loves dogs and has staffies so he's been making friends with Billy and has said he'll pop in on him during the day to check he's OK.

You're OUT of the closet now Magrat . Hello. smile

TheCunnyFuntIsAGrittersFiancee Sun 10-Mar-13 17:18:26

grin at 'out of the closet' grin

I think you've unhidden the thread Magrat, you wouldn't be able to see it at all if you hadn't.

Well if you want them Betsey just let me know. They are pink but I'm sure Billy wouldn't mind grin

Hope you are having a better afternoon, and sending the darling boy lots of gentle cuddles.

I'd think seriously about seeking the advice of a good behaviourist because of the impact (understandable) on his behaviour and it's really important that's documented and that the other owner meets those additional costs as well. As well, a good behaviourist can probably advise on steps to start rebuilding his confidence before nervous behaviours become too ingrained. Again, I suspect a call to Trevor would help to understand how this would all fit together. He has made so much progress with you, and I'm so sorry that all those months of work have now been pushed back.

And I LOVE the idea of him wearing Cunny's DD's socks. grin

Also wanted to say that our four hounds send lots of healing hound love xxx

And feel free to call for a chat anytime. x smile You must be so worried xx

MissBetseyTrotwood Sun 10-Mar-13 19:57:05

I think we'll have to now. We visited a friend over half term who has two rescue staffs who she's had a few dog on dog issues with, some started by them and some not. She had a behaviourist in who helped no end. I'll put a call in to the kennels this week and see if they can recommend anyone in particular. Billy was fine with them out doors in their garden but not so happy once in the house - they liked him though!

I'm going to call the insurance from work tomorrow morning and discuss the situation with them. Thought I'd wait until Monday as the weekends you don't always get the proper people around. I want to report it to the dog warden but I've no taste for going to court or anything. I couldn't face the stress of it all, I really couldn't.

He's been getting progressively better as the day's worn on and spent the afternoon on the sofa with the DSs watching Star Wars. He's a bit too interested in the Ewoks. He even stole a piece of lemon cake off the kitchen table when my back was turned so things must be getting back to normal.

Billy's man enough to wear pink Cunny ! Back to the vets with DH tomorrow morning.

MissBetseyTrotwood Sun 10-Mar-13 19:57:53

And thanks for the hound love Scuttle - when Billy untucks his nose from under his front leg I'll pass it on!

mistlethrush Sun 10-Mar-13 22:26:12

Betsy - I don't know whereabouts in the country you are but there's a lurcher - savy behaviourist in the north midlands who might be suitable - apparently he has some great dogs who really help dogs coming with problems - and who can blame yours for having a few hang-ups now! I hope that he's feeling a lot better soon. I don't know whether a Tshirt might be suitable?

MissBetseyTrotwood Mon 11-Mar-13 19:29:14

Ah, we're in Hackney mistlethrush - but thank you anyway, what a lovely thought. Didn't have a chance to call the kennels today (after the insurance company and Dog Warden and a very very crap day at work). He seems to be getting more chipper and DH said he was OK on his walk this morning.

The injury is high enough up his throat and shoulder that he can just about wear his house coat with the collar turned right down so he's still dapper and warm Scuttle ! No appointments at the vet today but he's in tomorrow evening to check the progress of the wound. Looks OK to me but who knows!

mistlethrush Mon 11-Mar-13 21:14:16

Not seen so many recommendations for this one, but that might be because more of the relevant people rae in the north rather than the south - but again another pointy recommendation here

MrSlant Wed 13-Mar-13 08:21:54

Sorry, been away because of some cruddy family circumstances but someone just slagged off whippets on a thread in the doghouse shock. It's the one about which small dog or something. They said whippets were boring and 'glass half empty' types. <covers whippety's ears>. I just felt the need to come somewhere where people understand that pointy hounds are worth a thousand soggy labs (apols to labs, I love you really).

mistlethrush Wed 13-Mar-13 09:13:29

They clearly haven't seen the whippets get going on race day or indeed whizzing through the park at high speed! I must say that some pointy dogs can give a bit of a sad expression when they're on a lead - often ears back along their heads (mine included) but when they suddenly see something its completely different....

CMOTDibbler Wed 13-Mar-13 10:42:53

Whippets boring? I have no idea what whippets they have seen, though I know what Mistle means about on the lead.

Hope things are better in the family soon MrSlant. I've been having a manky family time too

TheCunnyFuntIsAGrittersFiancee Wed 13-Mar-13 19:08:29

shockshockshock at the thought of a boring whippet shock I hope everything is ok MrS, cruddy family circumstances can be really, well, cruddy grin

Betsey how's Billy today?

TheCunnyFuntIsAGrittersFiancee Wed 13-Mar-13 19:14:05

CMOT I hope your manky family time gets better soon smile

MrSlant Wed 13-Mar-13 20:51:34

Cunny, you've been through the same recently haven't you though? Although darling bil has rather hurt his head whilst his body is in pretty good shape. Critical Care is just Not Fun. We are just fingers crossed that some of him will wake up, the plus side being the hospital he is in is not too far from the glorious Scuttlebutter and her pack, so I might get a few grey leans to keep me going.

I'd also been keeping away as we were in the process of adopting a new girl for whipptey boy to play with and I didn't want to jinx it by posting about her, if only I'd known [rueful smile emoticon] we have had to say we can't have her now as we are back and forward to the hospital all the time. DH and I have chatted today and when all this <wafts hands airily > is settled we will rehome another little girl and if possible call her Grace (the name of the one we can't home) as it seems such an apt name for a pointy girl.

Anyway, glad you all agree about the lack of grumpy whippets, some of the people on that thread are just ignorant wink

Hope family time perks up for you CMOT.

TheCunnyFuntIsAGrittersFiancee Wed 13-Mar-13 21:07:36

Oh no sad how awful, sending best wishes and pointy love your way MrS, hoping for the best xx

Having spent a lot of time sat around in ICU and CCU waiting rooms recently I can definitely say they are bloody awful places. Especially where David is now, the ICU waiting room doesn't have any windows so sitting there for 6 hours can feel like half an hour, you feel a bit jetlagged when you eventually get outside!

Grace is definitely a good name for a pointy, my friend has a Greyhound named Grace and it really suits her, she also has a Whippet grin named Pippin, really suits her too, she's such a cheeky little character smile

MrSlant Wed 13-Mar-13 21:13:55

Ah the fun and games family lead us through cunny, I didn't realise your brother was still in ICU, sorry, it's so hard. And why does it need to be so HOT? I understand on the ward where all the patients are undressed but the waiting room is hotter I swear, it's like some form of purgatory wink. I've been thinking about you loads, especially when you were so brave and had sprocket go into 'foster' care for a while, it's the best decision for the dog but hard on you!

Pippin is a great name too, my friend has a tiny little dog called pip and she's ace.

TheCunnyFuntIsAGrittersFiancee Wed 13-Mar-13 22:40:39

Well, he actually went home yesterday! He came off the ventilator last Monday and left ICU Tuesday, on wednesday he had an eating test, thursday he ate his first meal since the end of december, a massive plate of mash, broccoli and gravy, then yesterday at noon my mum collected him from hospital, took him to McDonalds for a treat and he was fine all afternoon and evening but late last night he started throwing up a lot, ended up back at hospital, in ICU , sedated and back on the ventilator with a chest infection, turns out some sick got in his lungs. His freedom was very short lived!

Tbh I'm so relieved that I sent Sprocket away when I did, 2 days after he'd gone David nearly died and ended up going to Manchester (2 hours away) for this magical treatment called ECMO which saved his life (literally, we were called into hospital at 3am to be told he had less than 24 hours left). So we were back and forth to Manchester a lot. Sprocket was in the best place really, I didn't see DD for nearly a week!

The great thing about Sprockets fosterers is they really fell in love with him and have said that when we go on holiday they'll have him, also if we can no longer keep him for whatever reason they'll have him. They've even made it clear to the rescue that if I go to them and ask them to find him a new home he'll go straight to them without being 'advertised'! He has his own set of Grundparents now grin

MrSlant Thu 14-Mar-13 16:27:30

Oh cunny what a roller coaster week! Maybe next time he comes out get him to start back on food a bit more slowly wink I'm so excited that he has been out though, that must be such a relief. Don't know where we are really, bil's got probably catastrophic levels of brain damage but he is breathing so we just have to sit and wait and see what happens, I am NOT good at uncertainty at the best of times so this is scary and frustrating. Going to take my extra sharp big sisters poking stick this weekend because obviously insulting him hasn't done the trick yet.

Had a fabulous run on the beach with my boy and his much younger girlfriend today. I really think everyone in this village will have a whippet soon. She is 5 months old and so perfect and black and shiny, she's just got the hang of super fast running and I could watch her all day. There is such pure joy to be had watching pointy hounds let their legs stretch out and run because they can and they want to, thank goodness for dogs!

TheCunnyFuntIsAGrittersFiancee Thu 14-Mar-13 19:06:54

Oh MrS, how awful for you all, the not knowing is the worst bit isn't it? If you ever want to chat I have my phone with me all the time so all you need to do is send a quick pm and I'll get back to you straight away. It really helped me to talk about it and Scuttle was a fantastic support for me. I know what you mean RE the insults and pointy stick, we all sat at Davids bedside promising him all sorts if he promised to come back to us, he got promised a car and free pints for life (one of his brothers owns a pub) grin

MrSlant Thu 14-Mar-13 20:45:22

Your family are obviously too nice! The first time we got to see him after his injury DH and I took the piss out of his hair and the nurse laughed and said every single person in so far had been rude to him. His other brother was telling him how fat he looked grin. He's always been spoilt being the youngest so that's going to stop!

I don't know what other dogs are like as I've only had my gorgeous boy but he is the best comfort dog in the world. If I'm having a sad moment he pretty much comes and sits across my chest like he's giving me a big hug, he got a new collar today so I might have to have a quick look in Milgi Coats for something fetching to go with it...

mistlethrush Thu 14-Mar-13 21:08:22

Its funny, mistlehound isn't much of a lapdog, although she's a cuddle up beside you dog quite happily.

However, based on what we feel we've discovered about her since she joined us, its pretty amazing that she wants to snuggle up - I really don't think that she was an 'indoor' dog - and I don't think she really had that much to do with people, apart from getting kicked - quite how she's so keen to please I don't know.

TheCunnyFuntIsAGrittersFiancee Thu 14-Mar-13 21:49:41

Oh we did our fair share of pisstaking too grin he's always been super skinny but something caused him to swell up and his face and neck were HUGE! I also threatened to take in some wax and wax patterns into his leg hair grin my mum told him she'd never seen his finger nails so clean.

Mistle that's so sad and lovely at the same time about mistlehound, she's been mistreated in the past but is still willing to put her love and trust in humans despite the previous unkindness she has been given. Dogs are wonderful creatures really aren't they?

On another, completely unrelated topic to anything. I saw a thread in chat earlier about animal belly buttons! Can anyone else see their dogs belly button? I've found Sprockets, looks nothing like a belly button though. More like a cigarette burn on his belly near his willy.

mistlethrush Thu 14-Mar-13 21:55:54

mistlehound and mistledog both had/have belly hair swirls over the top of their belly buttons.

She's now managed to get past her aversion to feet to wedge in along my leg (out on the sofa) and is dreaming happily

MrSlant Thu 14-Mar-13 22:16:24

He's more an alongside the lap rather than lap dog too apart from when I look very sad when he desperately tries to be a lap dog but he's rather large!

Lovely mistlehound, I cannot for the life of me understand the mindset that treats a dog (or any other animal) poorly. How lovely she has you and your alarming feet to love now wink

<goes off in search of the mythic belly button>

poorpaws Thu 14-Mar-13 23:04:20

Knocks on door tentatively. Please can I come in? I've got a lovely lurcher and a little spaniel. I've had many, many spaniels but my big black lurcher girl is my very first hound and has become the love of my life. Ive had a look on here before and thought I would revisit and was just about to leave when I thought I'd knock on the door and see if you invite me in.

MrSlant Thu 14-Mar-13 23:45:14

<grabs poorpaws and hauls her round the door>

They do get to you, welcome to the cushion grin

TheCunnyFuntIsAGrittersFiancee Fri 15-Mar-13 08:16:42

Welcome Paws smile you are most welcome! There is always room on the cushion floor for us humans to sit down wink

mistlethrush Fri 15-Mar-13 09:29:24

For anyone that's slightly north east midlands/ yorkshire / north east ish, there's a race day for lurchers on April 13th nearish Doncaster for lurchers / whippets / usually a terrier race - and there even appears to be a childrens race this time (I wonder if they'll put a chocolate egg on the lure???). pm me if you want details - I've been to the normal race afternoons with them and its good fun and not taken too seriously etc!

Mistlehound will settle down with a foot near her - sort of accidentally - then at some stage she'll realise that she's near a foot (or a foot has been gently massaging her) and she'll jump up and look very uncomfortable - she has even growled (very unusual for our very quiet dog). She doesn't have the same aversion to hands, ever - so that the only conclusion we can come to is that she was kicked.

We also think that her amazing vertical jumping capabilities (she is like having zebedee on a lead if she wants to see what's going on over a barrier) is because she was in a shed or barn with a high window so got the practise jumping up to look out.

Hello all and a very warm welcome to Poorpaws. smile

A busy weekend ahead. Got a CARIAD meeting tomorrow down in deepest Cardiganshire, and then on Sunday we are taking Norty Minx to a recall workshop with our trainer. She has improved enormously since we have been going to classes, but is still prone to doing that thing of wandering off in search of squirrels, hearing when you call her, but only deciding to come back when she is ready. On the plus side, when she does come back, she goes at Warp Factor Batshit, and bounces up looking delighted to see us.

What's everyone else got planned?

Mistle, lurcher racing sounds fab - wish we were nearer!

And in other news, it's confirmed that we'll be taking the Tent of Destiny to the 1000 Greyhounds Event in Exeter on September 8th. Really looking forward to it.

mistlethrush Fri 15-Mar-13 15:09:16

Tent of destiny sounds ominous. And the thought of camping with DS sharing the tent is a nightmare - so luckily we are too far away to join you I'm afraid Scuttle! Mind you, I think mistlehound would be quite a good warming dog to snuggle up to. Although she dreams a lot so I think it would be quite disturbing too.

The question is (I believe, based upon some photos I've seen of lurchers camping), what style of PJs have you got for your hound? I saw a wonderful tiger striped pair on a picture from last October - he looked very snug!

I think there's something on in Derbyshire on the 25th too.

The Tent of Destiny is a name that Cunny thought up!! And then she gave me a beautiful little wooden plaque with it carved on as well - so we always take it with us. (Such a shame we can't attach photos to our posts.) Not for camping as such - but for when we have a stall at events.

Naturally, the hounds wear these delightfully smart fleece housecoats wink [[ ]] - Norty Minx has the orange floral, Andy has purple, Mick has blue spots, and little Murgatroyd has pink spots. I'm not so much of a fan of the PJ style as with arthritic dogs it can be harder to get them on.

Working link hopefully - [[ here]]


TheCunnyFuntIsAGrittersFiancee Fri 15-Mar-13 15:39:29

Ahh mistle, you have yet to discover the wondrous delights of The Tent Of Destiny, where Madame Scuttle will be sat inside draped in shawls behind a gauzy curtain with her crystal ball and her DH will be outside wearing a fez and a large moustache luring you in. . . Ok well, that's not strictly true, The Tent Of Destiny is Scuttles stall where she sells her fabulous products, affectionately named TTOD smile

TheCunnyFuntIsAGrittersFiancee Fri 15-Mar-13 15:50:53

Was it me? I thought it was Lock or Lost/MrS.

It was one of the MN Pointy Gang - I thought it was you, but am happy to be corrected. grin

TheCunnyFuntIsAGrittersFiancee Fri 15-Mar-13 15:57:48

And there is a working link in the OP of this cushion winkgrin

MagratGarlik Fri 15-Mar-13 18:02:25

<<wonders in after another long period of absence having not read most of the thread >>

Mistle, Derbyshire is my neck of the woods and Doncaster is not too far away. I might be interested in a whippet/lurcher race day, sounds fun!

I'll pm you.

TheCunnyFuntIsAGrittersFiancee Fri 15-Mar-13 18:19:40

Doncaster isn't far from me either, only about 20 odd miles smile

MagratGarlik Fri 15-Mar-13 19:07:28

Yay! Midlands/Yorkshire pointy meet!

I'm new, but I have thre pointies, I only have three dogs in total, and one foster pup who we've had three months.

An Iggy called Lucia.
A lurcher (greyhound cross Norwich terrier) called Ginny
A lurcher (whippet x border collie) called Jess
A whippet called Emma.

And our foster pup is a lurcher (greyhound x deerhound) who is only tiny!

TheCunnyFuntIsAGrittersFiancee Fri 15-Mar-13 19:24:43

Welcome Londoner smile I'm slightly confused though, are you a 4 dog household or a 5 dog (inc. foster pup) household? Squeee! At Iggy though! I'd be terrified of having one, I'd end up breaking it blushgrin

MagratGarlik Fri 15-Mar-13 19:33:47

I was wondering the same. Was thinking my brains had been fried after a though week.

Welcome, Londoner.

I too would be worried about breaking an Iggy. I'd probably sit on it or something!!!

MrSlant Fri 15-Mar-13 19:57:02

I'd love an Iggy, there are a pair that need re-homing through Scruples (I think) at the moment but they have said they will only home them with someone Iggy experienced or I would have called. There's also an Iggy/Whippet cross on one of the non breed specific sites. I really must step away from the rescues until we can actually offer one a home grin. Sorry, hello Londoner <waves>, greyhound/deerhound and tiny sounds like the most beautiful dog ever, I'm gutted DH is insisting we can only have another whippet, no lurchers allowed or even Very Tall Whippets as Scuttle is insisting I call greys in an attempt to win DH round grin.

I would love to visit TTOD, have fun in deepest Cardianshire Scuttle, I hear they are very odd round those parts wink.

MagratGarlik Fri 15-Mar-13 21:01:31

'Very tall whippets' I like that grin.

I think I saw a whippet on the GRWE site lately. I don't know how up to date they keep it though.

Personally I think of our grip pet as a starter greyhound. Large whippy sized with grey temperament.

Can I join getting a whippet x tomorrow not sure what she's x with will put up a pic so you can try & help me guess.

MrSlant Fri 15-Mar-13 21:29:41

Yay, more people for the quiche cushion grin. I will settle down and await the picture, I love playing guess the lurcher mix.

Picture up now smile

MagratGarlik Fri 15-Mar-13 22:15:55


Some French bulldog in there maybe? What lovely ears!

MrSlant Fri 15-Mar-13 22:16:41

They are the best ears! Very pointy hound.

This is what he looks like this one a scruffy day tiny in age, not size!

Four dogs permanently. But with foster dog, five, hoping it might well be a permanent five eventually, but for now we are a happy five dog family, even if one is a temporary member.

Yeah, first few days I was worried that she'd shatter. She's a blue fawn colour and our very very robust, pretty china doll. Active as any dog though, and loves a snuggle, but it took time to get over the fear of breaking her in half!

Ears are beautiful! I know this sounds odd, but Staffie? The face shape is similar in some ways but I might be weird! Don't know about the ears origin, but she's absolutely beautiful!

TheCunnyFuntIsAGrittersFiancee Fri 15-Mar-13 22:26:40

Welcome to the cushion Fairy smile what fabulous ears! I thought she's maybe a Whiffie (the brill name scuttle thought of for a Whippet x Staffie), she has a slightly Staffie-ish face although thinner than an actual SBT. She's beautiful whatever she's crossed with!

Also wondering, if a whippet x (Staffie x blah blah) ears remind of a Pharoah Hound but that's just me connecting the ears t a friemd's dog so probably not correct?

TheCunnyFuntIsAGrittersFiancee Fri 15-Mar-13 22:33:59

Ahh great minds Londoner, great minds grin

Lucia sounds gorgeous, is she a lot more robust than she looks then? I'd love a scruffy grey Lurcher, sooo jealous envy

TheCunnyFuntIsAGrittersFiancee Fri 15-Mar-13 22:35:10

That's a good point, they have huge bat ears don't they?

poorpaws Fri 15-Mar-13 23:37:30

How beautiful, a stunning looking dog.

Settles quite comfortably on cushion waiting to be served with a cup of tea. Thank you for warm welcome.

Mine is a whippet, border collie cross. Makes me smile when I take mine out as I meet lots of cross breeds and there always seems to be border collie in there somewhere; those collies get everywhere.

MagratGarlik Fri 15-Mar-13 23:40:06

So collies are the sluts of the dog world?

Or the Austin Powers - wink

I'm also now imagining a BC version of Swiss Tony...... grin

Haha Margrat, yes, I think so.

A lot of dogs I meet on our walks are crosses and very often the owner will tell me it is X crossed with Y "and a bit of collie" ! grin

So yes, those Collies get everywhere!

MrSlant Fri 15-Mar-13 23:50:07

<sends a nice cup of gin tea to poorpaws>

MrSlant Fri 15-Mar-13 23:51:03

gin strikeout fail

MagratGarlik Fri 15-Mar-13 23:55:08

He he.

CMOTDibbler Sat 16-Mar-13 09:00:03

If anyone knows someone looking for a whippet puppy, Evesham Greyhound and Lurcher Rescue have posted pics of some vhey have vvvv cute puppies they have in grin

poorpaws Sat 16-Mar-13 11:28:36

lol. Teas nice, thank you. Reminds me of the Aldi advert with the old lady saying, "I don't like tea, I like gin". Glass of wine tonight anyone?

My two girls are fast asleep cuddled up together, its raining and very wet under paw so wondering if I could get away with no walk today - don't think I'll manage that though (especially when I look into their eyes).

MagratGarlik Sat 16-Mar-13 11:36:39

Woken up this morning with whippy sniffing under the bedroom door and crying - he wanted to come in for a cuddle. He is just like the boys.

He is not happy though now because he went out in the garden and ran around, ran back in the house and got muddy paw prints all over the cream carpets. He is a 'dog in disgrace'.

SusanTheGranddaughterOfDeath Sat 16-Mar-13 22:13:51

It's Magrat here - trying out a new name cos I'm bored of the old one.

mistlethrush Mon 18-Mar-13 09:03:09

I can see Magrat on the end of a pointy hound lead... (I can actually imagine a wonderful illustration by the person that illustrated the cartoon version... with Magrat all rather tied up in multiple leaves and dogs somewhat out of control) but I'm not sure that Susan would have one. What with the Rat, the Raven and Binky I think she has animals aplenty - which would probably frighten the hounds off! grin

We have to take mistlehound out whatever the weather otherwise we're in for a noisy night where she jumps onto the sofa and then stares pointedly at me and woofs very loudly in a 'I want you to do something but I'm not going to give you any hints' type manner.

SusanTheGranddaughterOfDeath Mon 18-Mar-13 18:39:08

You are probably right. I think I like Magrat better anyhow. Susan is very efficient and completely unlike me.

I could imagine Susan with a black greyhound though.

MrSlant Tue 19-Mar-13 19:55:25

I can totally see Susan with a very aloof black greyhound, probably called snuggles. I can see Magrat with several whippety lurchers, exactly as above because she would be too turn any away.

I came on to see if this will work as a link. I purchesd a rather fabulous 'walking out coat' for Silver from Milgi Coats and I don't think there are many things in life which have given me more pleasure, it is just glorious grin.

(Cunny how is your brother doing? Any more trips to McDonalds planned?)

mistlethrush Tue 19-Mar-13 22:41:35

Looks lovely! Mistlehound only needs a coat when its cold and wet as she's got enough coat not to get too cold. So we got a fitted waterproof fleece lined one for her. I think we'll probably get a lightweight waterproof one too.

I did see someone got a collar designed for them from someone on the forum - from this site. The collar is absolutely beautiful by the look of it, and someone else that has a collar from there has said that their dog's looks as good as new despite repeated applications of fox poo envy (special, not envy!)

TheCunnyFuntIsAGrittersFiancee Tue 19-Mar-13 22:58:12

Oh I just love it MrS! He's manly enough to pull off flowers grin
My brother is fed up, went to visit him this evening. He's back out of ICU now and onto the normal ward. He's got a swallow test tomorrow and they're going to xray him as he eats to see where exactly the food is going. The reason for his chest infection wasn't actually the bit of sick that went into his lungs. The actual reason is that even though he was able to eat food and pass it ok, little bits were going the wrong way and ended up in his lungs! The McD's just finished him off.

mistlethrush Tue 19-Mar-13 23:01:36

I'm glad they've worked out what's wrong - I'm sure that they can sort it out - its just amazing that he's eating McD's (or even close to it!!!) grin

TheCunnyFuntIsAGrittersFiancee Tue 19-Mar-13 23:03:24

Mistle that collar site looks Very Expensive! Aren't beautiful designs though!?! Can't wait until I win the lottery. . .

TheCunnyFuntIsAGrittersFiancee Tue 19-Mar-13 23:06:41

I know, it's just amazing, especially when we came so very close to losing him. He literally had a few hours left to live, and then that team of fantastic doctors brought him back to life with their amazing miracle machines.

mistlethrush Wed 20-Mar-13 07:29:23

Someone said that they weren't as expensive as they look... I'm not sure whether that makes me think that we might ever be able to afford one - but the maker is on the LL site and will respond to pms there and I think she's giving some ideas of costs - does depend upon the design I believe....

Morning all. smile

Had one of those slightly mad, why ever did I have greyhounds nights last night. I was making four log cabin quilt blocks as I've got a class this morning and we are going to be assembling a nice mini quilt we've all been working on, with lots of different blocks. So, I sat down at the table to cut the fabric and then gradually assemble. I'd given myself plenty of time, had a nice mug of herb tea, all good.

I'm convinced the little buggers had an evil plan to think of as many ways as possible to disrupt me. Every few minutes while cutting a nose would appear. Wotcha doing? Can I play? Can I have a tickle? Quite often you'd get one of those nose nudges under my elbow just as I was cutting with my razor sharp rotary cutter. hmm Anyway, got cutting done, decided to let dogs out and continue with assembly. All dogs went out and disappeared into the night, and very reluctant to come back in (more time wasted, freezing on the doorstep). Reason for reluctance becomes apparent on return - muddy feet which means illicit digging has been happening. Decide to ignore muddy footprints in kitchen I'd cleaned earlier <sob> and continue with blocks.

This bit took ages. Now, as well as the pester technique, they took it in turns to lie either right behind my chair so I couldn't move or breathe, or right where I get up to go back to the cutting mat to trim as I go. Permanently trying not to trip over assorted hairy beasties. Then we had the chemical element - a symphony of farting to create the perfect atmosphere. And the particularly clever bit - waiting until I'd settled at the machine and had a piece under the needle to suddenly stand in front of me and do the "I need the toilet and I need it NOW" waggle dance. Cue getting up, going to back door, all other greyhounds then join in cos God knows you can't go to the loo by yourself, and then they decide that strolling round the pleasure garden looking at the sky is much more fun than coming back in the house.

Repeat ad infinitum. Blocks were eventually completed (whimpers with relief) but the two hours I'd given myself actually turned into three and a bit!!!!

mistlethrush Wed 20-Mar-13 11:44:14

My best memory of dogs and sewing - was cutting my wedding dress out at my parents' house. We had two collie crosses at that stage. The fabric went from one end of the room to the other, with paper patterns out on it, furniture moved to the edges. The dogs were tiptoeing around the edges very carefully without treading on the paper or the pattern.

Mistledog was completely different - she would have walked all over it and probably lain down in the middle.

Not quite sure about mistlehound, but pretty sure that she'll be of the mistledog mind. grin

Mistlehound has spent the last two nights on her bed ON THE LANDING rather than in our room!!!! I brought her fleecy covered duvet upstairs and put it there for her - and she clearly prefers it to the duvet without a fleecy cover. We still had our door open so she wasn't exactly miles away, but its quite a big move for a hound that hasn't wanted to be separated from us at all when she first arrived.

MissBetseyTrotwood Wed 20-Mar-13 16:38:08

Hi all! Been offline as our online banking got hacked. Boo. Bad few weeks. Bill's back home and coming on nicely now. Stitches out, attacking the bin etc etc. Still terrified of other dogs and the kennel are calling me back with the deets of a behaviourist two of their adopting families have used before!

Billy will be sniffing bottoms and play fighting with Staffies and Labradors before you can say liver cake. <hopeful face>

The other owner never paid up and has broken contact completely.

Mistle, how lovely that you were able to make your wedding dress. And so impressed at your collies tiptoeing round it.

Can't imagine any of ours doing that! I went to a dressmaker in Plymouth for mine. (Happy memories smile).

Betsey, fantastic news about Billy, but not surprised about other owner. sad angry And how awful about your banking! What a palaver that must have been. Glad to have you back, and sending you a large virtual gin.

Fab to hear Billy is back to normal. Have you reported the other dog owner to the dog warden? If he is not going to pay up and face up to what his dog did then at least he can have a visit from someone official to shake him up a bit!!

angry on your behalf!

mistlethrush Wed 20-Mar-13 19:09:17

Scuttle - my mother and I made it - I took my sewing machine down to their house and we sat either side of the dining room table sewing...

I ended up sewing the silk roses that I'd made from 3 different colours of silk (which matched the colours in my bouquet) on the back the night before as it was something I couldn't do at home (no dress) !!!

One of the collie crosses had a 'brides-dog' outfit specially made - a little bonnet and a frill... Only trouble is that the other dog would have attacked her because she was wearing it!!! grin

Second the dog warden route.

TheCunnyFuntIsAGrittersFiancee Wed 20-Mar-13 20:14:39

I know for a fact Sprocket would hve lain down on the material, he'd probably have dug it up and mashed it around a bit too grin

Betsey I'm so pleased to hear Billy is back to normal (besides the other dogs of course). angry and sad at the other owner and your online banking. What a shite year we seem to be having so far!

grin grin grin at Scuttles hounds last night, they all sound like such clowns smile

DD never fails to amaze me. We had the dentist yesterday, and we got there and she pointed to the building over the road opposite to the dentist and said 'Crocket!' (Sprocket), the building over the road is the vets where we take Sprocket shock she's 21 months old and she recognises the vets even though she's only been a couple of times!

mistlethrush Wed 20-Mar-13 20:23:50

Tonight mistlehound went missing.... I tracked her down and found that she'd broken into the dining room - where she was eating the Chinchilla's food, having broken into the packet hmm. I'm not sure its going to do her digestive system much good.

Awww, love the brides dog idea. One of the nicest things about our wedding was that our two family dogs who we'd had since I was a teenager came along. Both were very elderly by that time, but to be honest, it mattered more that they were there than some of the humans! Am looking forward to seeing Sprocket strut his stuff at the event of the century next year. That's amazing about DD - she's so sharp. smile

Further criminal activities have been taking place today. I went off to my quilt class this morning, leaving a wrapped parcel on the hall table. On my return, after a peaceful few hours with my quilt blocks, I came upstairs to check email on the PC. Heard mysterious chewing, cracking noises from the spare bedroom. Found Norty Minx lying on Andy's bed, looking hugely pleased with herself chewing the parcel. She had managed (though I am convinced Andy had some part in it) to get off all the outer brown paper and parcel tape, the cardboard box, and had chewed through the sturdy plastic boxes within to try to access the Peanut Butter dog treats within. Amazingly, she had been foiled by the plastic bag that was inside the box (I'll say this for the treats, they are very securely wrapped), though I suspect it was also down to my timing in coming home and interrupting her.

Impressed at the chinchilla food!

MissBetseyTrotwood Wed 20-Mar-13 21:04:35

Arf @ mistlehound. Billy's partial to the guinea pig food too. His poos are terrifying afterwards.

We bumped into the dog warden on our walk the other day lock (walking 3 staffies on special leads that had 'I'M FRIENDLY! COME SAY HELLO!' woven all down them) and he was horrified but sadly unsurprised. Unfortunately, with the little information we have his hands are a bit tied. We have mobile number and email but that's it. We do have insurance details so there might be a bit of joy there I guess.

More sad news. Our friend's lovely Dog de Bordeaux X GSD bit into one of her asthma inhaler capsules the other day and is gravely ill in hospital with heart problems as a result. If she makes it through the night, she'll probably be OK apparently, so cross your fingers guys.

TheCunnyFuntIsAGrittersFiancee Wed 20-Mar-13 21:13:15

Sprocket's partial to the rabbits food too, although he's never managed to get his paws on enough to affect his poo. Although speaking of poo, he terrified me yesterday, he went on his walk as normal, and as I put my hand around it to pick it up I felt painful pin pricks on my fingers underneath the poo! I started panicking thinking "Shit! What's he eaten? His insides will be shredded!!" then I noticed that the poo had moved, revealing the Holly leaf he'd pooed on top of and completely hidden hmm

sad about your friends dog Betsey, fingers, paws and toes crossed here that she makes it! DDB x GSD, interesting mix, I'd like to see that!

TheCunnyFuntIsAGrittersFiancee Wed 20-Mar-13 21:18:05

grin at Norty Minx and Andy! Was Andy distracting you by any chance while this was going on? I'm thinking it went like this :
Andy- "I'll let you use my bed, while I keep mum busy. She'll never think of looking there for you if I'm distracting her by demanding cuddles!"
NM- "Ok, then when I've managed to get into them, I'll woof for you and you can pretend you're tired, you come up to bed and we can share the spoils!"

MissBetseyTrotwood Wed 20-Mar-13 21:23:13

She's beautiful Cunny. Very protective of the family though - they have to be very careful with her when men go over there! She loves me and Jas for some reason though - must sense the dog love. Billy, of course, avoids her until after she's done a couple of rounds of the marsh and she's happy to say a gentle hello!

Ha ha Norty Minx. She's a one.

mistlethrush Thu 21-Mar-13 09:45:22

The other collie cross (who didn't like anything on her at any stage) was a terrible chewer. We got her on 23rd December (and went to the vets with her on the 24th and 26th hmm) and she was shut in the kitchen when we went out to midnight mass on the 24th. The kitchen counter was taller than standard - but she managed to get up, unwrap the christmas presents that were in a basket, eat an apple from the fruit bowl, and sample an onion. Then she must have jumped up at the door and let herself out....

There were two particularly memorable events - the one where she found the liquid centre herbal sweets that I'd got for travelling and she'd managed to unwrap them and eat them - and the tube of savlon that was near them too - trying to get sticky gunge and savlon off her front paws was interesting and there was a distinct antiseptic smell that lingered on the landing for a while.

Another time she managed to break into the bathroom - where she ate three toothbrushes, a (new) tube of toothpaste, two bottles (full) of shampoo, one of conditioner, and just to top the oozing pool on the landing, a bottle of talc.

mistlehound will fetch shoes but hasn't chewed them at all.

Is anyone tempted to go to the show at Carnforth Hall in Derbyshire on Sunday - if so, what's going to be the secret MN sign... I don't have a mn scarf or a 'lentil weaver' shoulder bag...

Erm, silly question I know, but what exactly is the MN scarf? blush I keep hearing about it, but have yet to see it described.

TheCunnyFuntIsAGrittersFiancee Thu 21-Mar-13 14:17:16

<drumroll> This is the MN scarf. It's a cheap copy of the real designer kind which are Very Expensive!

MissBetseyTrotwood Thu 21-Mar-13 16:42:27

So Billy now has a patch of dry skin on his shoulder with a circular sort of red irritation underneath. His fur has fallen out around it. What fresh problem is this? Could he have caught it from our numerous vet trips recently?

Thanks Cunny!

Betsey, it sounds almost like a textbook case of ringworm?

MissBetseyTrotwood Thu 21-Mar-13 21:48:19

Oh, boak. Poor Billy. We do Advocate - he'd had his last dose at the very end of Jan, so I guess we'd be about a 3 weeks overdue. I'd totally forgotten to do it, probably with all the other hassle. Poor thing. DH is taking him to the vet tomorrow morning for some anti fungal stuff.

And I'll be washing EVERYTHING like a woman possessed all weekend

MissBetseyTrotwood Fri 22-Mar-13 20:51:55

It's had a proper clean up by our vet nurse and it's a huge ulcer about the size of a 20p piece. It's horrible, my poor dog. Vet's prescribed a sort of deep cleaning fluid (I think? DH just left the instructions before he went to work) that we have to put on, leave, then wash off and an anti fungal. He also said that the other things it could be are very serious and nasty and that we wouldn't go down that road until we'd eliminated the fungal infection option.

He doesn't seem bothered by it in the least though. I hope he didn't pick it up at the hospital or on one of our numerous return trips to the vet. sad Told the DSs not to fuss him in case it is the dreaded ringworm.

Oh Betsey, Billy is really going through the wringer isn't he?? sad

When Sam was poorly and had been in hospital he developed a deep ulcer roughly the diameter of a 20 pence piece. It was treated with the same liquid you are describing but the vet nurses did it as he was still on drips etc at the time.
It healed well.

Sending healing vibes to the gorgeous Billy and Sam sends a tentative lick xx

MissBetseyTrotwood Sat 23-Mar-13 07:43:02

How's Sam doing Lock - is he enjoying the snow?

It's too much of a coincidence that this thing's come up a fortnight after he's been through all that horrible stuff. Our vet (lovely) did say it could be connected to the attack in some way and, also that obv greyhounds are prone to skin problems.

We've had the heating on all night as he isn't wearing his coat at the mo and the fire's going on later today so his Lordship's prime spot will be reserved. grin

Oooh, sounds cosy in your house, may just have to come on over and claim my own spot by the fire smile

Sam is fantastic at the moment. He has not needed steroids now since August. We have him on a fantastic ready made raw food called Natural Instinct. It seems to really suit him. He has put on weight and developed a lovely velvety thick coat.
He is also full of bounce and mischief grin

He loves the snow, has already been out in the garden and dashed about like a spring lamb!!
I am less enamoured with the snow, Ems is supposed to have a horse riding lesson this morning and then later this afternoon she should be going on a Llama trek for a school friend's birthday party. I fear both may be cancelled if this snow does not stop pdq!

Enjoy the snow with your lovely boys and give Billy a hug x

MissBetseyTrotwood Sat 23-Mar-13 19:03:40

I hope the llama trek went ahead - those beasts live in the Andes! They're well tough. Our guinea pigs (another Latino favourite) are fine. Their hutch box is stuffed with straw and when I shoved my hand in earlier to check them both it was positively toasty in their little nest!

Sam sounds on top form. Great you found a food to suit - now the DSs are a bit older I think we might go raw too. My friend's two rescue staffies are on raw and look amazing on it. Since she started it the bitch has had loads less skin problems too so it might be good in the long run for old Billy. He's had such a crappy time of it recently. I do hope things will be on the up for him soon.

Llama trek was cancelled. Not on behalf of the Llamas but for the girls and the fact that the trek takes place in a hilly, forresty part of South Surrey; the trek was not visible under the snow and slippery to booth and they were worried about the girls (and llamas) disappearing over the edge of a hill and / or losing their footing.
Fair enough. Now rescheduled for 21st April when it should be hopefully milder, dryer and brighter smile

booth? boot!

MissBetseyTrotwood Sat 23-Mar-13 22:15:49

How disappointing for her - fingers crossed for the 21st! It would have been mighty uncomfortable up there today. Perhaps she'll have some spring sunshine for round 2!

TheCunnyFuntIsAGrittersFiancee Mon 25-Mar-13 14:28:44

Llama trekking? That sounds awesome! Sam sounds like he's taken to raw like a duck to water, how fantastic that he hasn't had steroids since August!?! You must be dead chuffed smile

Betsey poor Billy, he doesn't have much luck does he? I hope it clears up soon. How are his wounds healing?

MissBetseyTrotwood Mon 25-Mar-13 16:14:20

I know Cunny. We had about a year with him when it was all pretty straightforward and since about last summer it's just been one thing after another!

Betsey, we had all our issues with Sam in the first year, his tummy problems, then an abcess, then the harmless tumour on his stomach.
This year has been better so far but I am so anxious now I fear another disaster is just around the corner...
Dogs, who'd have em??

Hello wise people I'm new here and have a newly acquired whippty x she really needs a good run but is so used to city parks with other dogs about that she'll only run if she can find a playmate. I feel like a stalker trying to find other dog walkers! She took a bit of an interest in some rabbit burrows today so hoping maybe finding some rabbits might work. Any other ideas to get her running?

MrSlant Mon 25-Mar-13 21:45:07

I've managed to get my whippy boy to chase a ball thrown from one of those wangy ball thrower things and he loves it. Took a while to master but then I think it's pretty much Mensa level for a whippet ;-)

Had a bone scan today for my crappy back/pelvis, I'm not supposed to cuddle the children but what about my precious baby dog? I'm being mean and not letting him cuddle up at the moment as they said any child that is still growing is not allowed too near and I figured he's only 16 months so that's quite young (and yes, yes I am pfb about my lovely boy and I don't care!)

<waves at everyone, sorry, not often in the mood for chat at the moment, Dbil still deeply unconscious, it's so horrid>

MrSlant Mon 25-Mar-13 21:51:10

Cunny I hope your brothers x-ray stuff went ok, that's my job! Would have been fascinating to see where the food was getting through. Fingers crossed for all better and home for good soon.

TheCunnyFuntIsAGrittersFiancee Tue 26-Mar-13 18:50:27

Welcome Fairy! Iirc you've said hello on here before haven't you? Maybe you could find somehwere that does Lure coursing and take her to do that? Mistle on this cushion takes her dog Lurcher racing, you could PM her to ask her about it.

MrS you're not allowed to cuddle anyone who's still growing? How odd.

My brother hasn't yet had his eating x-ray, he's not having an eating test until Thursday (!) and they may not even x-ray him then!

TheCunnyFuntIsAGrittersFiancee Tue 26-Mar-13 18:59:29

Sounds like an interesting job, being a person who does x-rays (radiographer?).

Sorry to hear your BIL is still unconcious, is there any improvement or is he the same?

CMOTDibbler Tue 26-Mar-13 19:59:42

Fairy, have you tried things like frisbees or squeaky balls? Mine likes to run round madly squeaking away with his, then occasionally returning for a throw. He likes a wanged normal ball too, but its too much stress on my arm

You should be fine to dog cuddle by now MrSlant - the half life is very short on the bone scan isotopes.Sounds like you could do with the cuddles

MrSlant Tue 26-Mar-13 20:39:11

CMOT needed you last night! Half life's 6 hours I think so lots of cuddles this evening. <adjusts her venn diagram to include physics geeks who like pointy hounds and Terry Pratchett> I had the scan in an evening session so there was no hugging of children last night, I didn't hug the dog either as I figured as he appears to still be growing I would sit in splendid isolation wink.

Yes radiography is an ace job, it's fascinating, everyone is different so even though things should be standard you constantly have to change how you work and work out how to gain someones trust in seconds. I think I would have made a great con man! (My father is an Estate Agent though so I think it's genetic wink) Bil has started to move his limbs a bit but it's very hard to know if it is due to him or just his brain firing off randomly due to the swelling going down.

Found a hotel near Bil's hospital that will take dogs so we are all off on a mini break next week!

TheCunnyFuntIsAGrittersFiancee Tue 26-Mar-13 20:58:25

Oh she might like the rabbit ball she's taken a liking to a rubber ball, and she liked her frisbee the other day but not has gone off it.

TheCunnyFuntIsAGrittersFiancee Tue 26-Mar-13 21:12:59

I suppose you can't really get too excited about him moving can you? We did that with David when his eyes opened, turned out it was just reflex actions he was doing when he was having his teeth brushed!
Fingers crossed the movement is due to him though.
It's good that you found a dog friendly hotel nearby, ime no comfort is as good as the comfort a dog can give smile I really needed and missed my Sprocket cuddles when he was away.

MrSlant Tue 26-Mar-13 21:25:18

I know, I had considered getting him fostered for a bit as he is getting clingy after four weekends of being passed around friends but I am too selfish to do without him! If the hotel thing works out then it's brilliant and in the summer we can camp quite close to the hospital so he can come with us no problem then. You were so brave and grown up (sorry if that seems condescending but this is the first time in my life I have felt like I'm actually acting like a proper adult) sending Sprocket to his foster family, I'm so glad it worked out well for you. Nurses can be ace can't they, I love that they clean teeth and shave Bil, one day we went in and they told me they'd given him a mini facial so if he looked a bit glossy it wasn't sweat it was moisturizer!

mistlethrush Wed 27-Mar-13 09:04:40

Our dog loves the ball wangy things - she'll have a go at that if you're not throwing the ball for her. Trouble is that she's not got the concept of 'fetch' sorted. So you throw the ball and she bombs after it happily, then stays approximately where the ball landed, throws it up in the air, pounces on it, then sees another dog going after their ball, drops hers and races off after that one instead, leaving her ball in splendid isolation miles away from where you are standing.

TheCunnyFuntIsAGrittersFiancee Wed 27-Mar-13 09:59:55

I know what you mean MrS, although tbh I didn't have a choice. I don't know anyone who would've been able to take him. It turned out great in the end though because Sprocket now has his own set of Grundparents who adore him and are adamant that they'll be his next home if ever we can no longer keep him!

Yy to the nurses, the level of care is just fantastic. Even to visiting family! My mum and sister saw in the new year at his bedside and at midnight the nurses handed out Schloer. My sisters DH sat with him one night from 3am till around 9.30am and at 8 they brought him some tea and toast! The best thing was how they washed his hair in Manchester, they had these special shower caps, they microwaved them, put it on his head for 15 mins and when they took it off his hair was clean! I have got to get me some of them grin

MrSlant Wed 27-Mar-13 11:15:32

mistle I think my dog is just trying to make me get a good bit of exercise too when he does that! We have about 75% bringing the ball back after some intensive work and a lot of sausage this week. I think I'd forgotten how effective rewarding good behaviour is and he even stopped chasing another dog's ball today shock when I called him back.

I want one of those shower caps!

TheCunnyFuntIsAGrittersFiancee Fri 29-Mar-13 14:18:07

David is out again, he came out yesterday almost straight after his eating test! I've just seen my grandma who told me more about Davids release, turns out he was let out straight away because he can't actually eat shock he's been given a supply of bagged food, enough to last 28 days. He still has his feeding tube in hanging out his nose!

EddieVeddersfoxymop Fri 29-Mar-13 20:24:36

Hello, we're in the process of finding out about rehoming a retired greyhound....we have a home check on sunday and I'm terribly nervous about it!! Its a local rescue coming out to assess us as we have 2 cats and a 5 year old child...any advice? Argh I feel like I'm about to sit an exam or something!!! grin

TheCunnyFuntIsAGrittersFiancee Fri 29-Mar-13 23:55:32

Welcome Eddie smile how exciting for you! Don't worry about the homecheck, I felt exactly like you, I was so nervous and positive we would fail! I needn't have worried, the people that came were lovely, all it was, was a chat about greyhounds and a few questions asking if we knew what we were letting ourselves in for etc. I do feel that my local rescue are a bit lax with the HCs though, they didn't look at the garden or where the dog would sleep/eat which I've heard that some rescues do!

I hope it all goes well for you, and feel free to ask as many questions as you like smile

EddieVeddersfoxymop Sat 30-Mar-13 17:27:50

I am nervous!!! Worried that they might say no.......nervous cat, bitey cat and a 5 year old may all conspire against us! We know we'd love and look after a hound but its convincing them....eek!

MrSlant Sat 30-Mar-13 20:32:34

Aw, I entered a photomarathon and took a photo of whippy boy snuggling on my bed and won the 'gentle' category with it, so chuffed grin.

They'll be on your side Eddie don't worry. Scuttle is our expert on here but she told me they will probably check you know what you are getting into re insurance, not leaving the dog for long times etc, she'll probably be along soon and fill you in. How exciting for you, I'd love to rehome a greyhound, I'm just waiting until the children leave home so I have some sofa space. Oh and welcome to the cushion!

Cunny how fantastic your brother is home, it must be wonderful for your family (and be saving you a fortune in parking charges at the hospital!)

MrSlant Sat 30-Mar-13 20:34:07

They will find a dog to suit you btw, there are cat friendly, child friendly hounds out there just waiting for a forever home. We were being considered for a rescue whippet with 3 children in the house.

TheCunnyFuntIsAGrittersFiancee Sat 30-Mar-13 21:01:00

Yy MrS, we must've spent a fortune with petrol, parking and food. We were all joking that we'd present him with a bill for it all grin including the cost of all of his treatment. All of it, altogether (medical bills, our expenses etc) must come to around £250-£300k at least shock

Eddie although we don't have a cat, we have a toddler. She was 5mo when we had our homecheck, and 7.5mo when we eventually got Sprocket and she's now 21mo. It will be fine, don't worry smile there is a greyhound out there for you, possibly still living in a racing kennels dreaming of your sofa. . . .

MrSlant Sat 30-Mar-13 21:35:52

Posting purely so I can do this grin

I don't think we appreciate the NHS half as much as we do, Dbil's bed costs about £500 a day and that's without any extras. He had 3D MRI this week and I know for a fact the software for that doesn't come cheap, let alone the equipment to take the images.

TheCunnyFuntIsAGrittersFiancee Sat 30-Mar-13 21:47:31

The ECMO beds cost 6k a day to run, per bed. David was on it for almost 4 weeks! I estimate his ECMO alone to be 162k, I don't know what ICU beds cost with ventilator etc, and he had god knows how many drips, at one point he was hooked up to about 10 bags! He had about a month on ICU altogether, then about 3 weeks on a normal ward. He's gone through countless bags of stuff too. All in all that was one very expensive hospital stay!

I don't care how many people bitch about how crap the NHS is, they've done so much for my brother since he was a baby (born with a hole in his heart, had countless heart operations).

MrSlant Sat 30-Mar-13 22:06:53

ECMO rocks though! Thank goodness we live in the UK. I think Bil's bed is probably more than £500 as he's in neuro HDU but I know that's the standard for a surgical bed. If only people knew.

MagratGarlik Sat 30-Mar-13 23:17:48

sorry - still trying to catch up with thread, but this comment from MrSlant stuck out, "adjusts her venn diagram to include physics geeks who like pointy hounds and Terry Pratchett".

I'm not a physics geek, I'm a chemist geek - is that close enough? grin

MrSlant Sun 31-Mar-13 11:00:20

<gets out spreadsheet physics science geeks who like Terry Pratchett and pointy hounds>

TheCunnyFuntIsAGrittersFiancee Sun 31-Mar-13 12:37:38

ECMO definitely rocks. David had less than 24 hours to live and the ECMO team saved his life, as soon as he got on the machine his heartrate went down from 148 to 89 shock

I'm loving the irony of using these easter emoticons on a sighthound discussion grin

MagratGarlik Sun 31-Mar-13 13:15:29

Agree with your comments about the NHS - completely undervalued imho. I used to live in another (European) country and I had to pay 120 euros per month for health insurance, but still had a 500 euro excess on my policy, so if I wanted to see my GP I still had to fork out 80 euros and if I wanted a repeat prescription that would cost me another 40 euros (till I'd reached my excess of 500 euros - which of course, unless you have major expenses you never actually reach). Getting rid of the NHS, as government after government seems to threaten to do, would not improve the quality of healthcare at all.

DS2 had various problems when he was younger and I have to say, whilst I didn't like the first paediatrician he had, they did give lots of support and specialist help was very forthcoming.

Cunny, hadn't thought about the irony of the Easter bunnies.... true though grin

MrSlant Sun 31-Mar-13 13:18:20


EddieVeddersfoxymop Sun 31-Mar-13 16:47:56

Well, we passed the home check! The lady brought a hound with her who was adorable but not cat we got to see how nervous cat and bitey cat would react. Both were reasonably calm, but couldn't get too close for obvious reasons.

The cats were then put out of sight and the muzzle removed so we could see how dd got on. All was fine! They are happy to fnd us the right hound but I wish I had asked what happens when they find something it the norm that we could test drive the dog to see how the cats get on in closer proximity before we commit to anything??

Not daring to get my hopes up in case the mogs only like hounds at a distance and through conservatory windows.........

MagratGarlik Sun 31-Mar-13 16:56:24

We don't have mogs, but when we got both our dogs, the rescues were very keen to make sure dogs/children all got on fine. We had lots of visits before either dog came home, took them for walks, had the children running and playing around the dogs to see whether it freaked the dogs out or not. We only committed when we were sure that we'd found dogs that both dogs and children were happy with. I'd imagine it's similar when looking for cat-friendly dogs.

Just think - you could soon have your very own hound!!! <<excited>>

MrSlant Sun 31-Mar-13 21:22:26

<<excited too>>

Tries another inappropriate for pointy hounds smile

Hi everyone smile

I've posted before asking for advice on rescues who get in cat friendlies and it looks like Ive finally found the right match for our home. She will be coming soon on a one month trial and we are so excited!

Trying to stop myself getting carried away with the buying before she gets here but I need a coat for her right? wink Will look at the links in the OP but are there any others anyone can recommend?

MagratGarlik Mon 01-Apr-13 19:40:44

Oh, coats, now let me think....

This company called milgi coats seems to be pretty good. Try

We've had a couple from them and their service is very good smile.

MagratGarlik Mon 01-Apr-13 19:42:04

What type of pointy are you getting?

CMOTDibbler Mon 01-Apr-13 20:00:27

Yourhand - something you might want to consider is a stairgate for the kitchen so your cats can go over it, but pointy can't go through. This stops pointy eating the cats food, and gives the cats somewhere they can swear at dog feel safe but see the dog.

You will also need a martingale collar and a waterproof coat. We have a hi vis Blizzard one which helps see dog when he's running free

A GH girl, she's small rather than big but other than that just a standard greyhound. smile

CMOT that's a great suggestion about keeping the kitchen a dog free zone. I was wondering where I would put the cat's food! Will a normal safety gate do as they won't bother jumping it, or would a bigger one be better? I've seen dogs jump the tall ones but I guess it depends on the dog. grin

CMOTDibbler Mon 01-Apr-13 20:13:22

Ours is just a standard one - I guess dog could jump it if he wished, but he isn't a jumper anyway and just stands there being pathetic.

Are you going to use a crate? We do, and it gives him a place thats his, and that I know where he is when he's left

I'm not sure about crating. I know a lot of people use them though. Will have to have a think about that option!

ZombiesAreClammyDodgers Mon 01-Apr-13 20:50:07

Oh none of the above but would love to some day, don't care if a lurcher or a whippet or a grey smile

TheCunnyFuntIsAGrittersFiancee Mon 01-Apr-13 20:58:18

Welcome YourHand, how exciting!! Wrt to coats, for now I think I'd just go for a cheap weatherproof coat from GRWE, or maybe the rescue she is coming from sells them? Our local one does. Then if she turns out to be the perfect dog for you then you can go for the all singing, all dancing one from AK creations, and a lovely snuggly housecoat from Milgi (fabulous quality, my hound has a milgi housecoat) wink

Yy to a gate, we have 3 in our house as we have a toddler and they're incredibly useful for separating Sprocket and DD, and to stop her bugging him while he's eating. I think even when we don't need to stop DD getting up the stairs/into the kitchen we'll keep them for Sprocket!

Well done Eddie!! I really hope you get your hound soon, the waiting is the worst bit I think. We had our homecheck early November 2011, and didn't get Sprocket dog until 29th January!!

For now I need an outdoor walking coat and I want it to be waterproof so one with just fleece/flannel is out for now. I like my heating on warm so will get a house coat later. I quite like this one:

The coats on Milgi are gorgeous! Are they made by a MNer?

Have emailed rescue to ask about sizes. smile

TheCunnyFuntIsAGrittersFiancee Mon 01-Apr-13 21:26:09

Wow, that is bright! You'll be seen a mile off grin The Milgi coats are lovely aren't they? My particular favourites are the lovely fresh green fleece, and the magic circles bandanas/walking out coats. The black model grey is my Sprockets big brother smile Milgi is run by an MNer, no doubt she'll be along soon to say hello, she's a frequent poster on the cushion smile

The Milgi coats are fab. My beautiful whippety cross rescue houndie has a lovely bright blue fleece one and a matching blue star bandana.
Am hoping to buy him the magic circles or the blue star walking out coat next year....

TheCunnyFuntIsAGrittersFiancee Mon 01-Apr-13 21:41:26

I love the magic circles one. I really do. I love bright, funky things. I think this will be Sprockets next collar.

I liked the Jade magic circles one best, will definitely be ordering it's more a case of how long I can resist for. grin

Yep the pink blizzard one is definitely bright! I think they have the same ones on the GRWE site, they are quite a good price for an outdoor coat.

MagratGarlik Mon 01-Apr-13 21:55:06

Yy to stair gates. We still use ours even though our ds's are now 5 and 8. It gives the possibility to separate dogs and children when we can't physically watch them. It also helps when the boys have friends coming over to play as we can confine the dogs to one area. We have another stair gate to our utility room to shut the dogs away when answering the front door (the dogs don't like the door closed on them).

Woody (our whippet) has a red blizzard coat. He likes it and it seems warm.

Also don't worry about crating seeming cruel - it's not. Must greys are used to being crated and it was a godsend when we got our whippet as he suffered such bad separation anxiety at first it was the only way we could leave him without the house being destroyed. Both ours love their crates and it gives clear no go areas for the dc's too.

MrSlant Mon 01-Apr-13 23:12:11

I second stair gates, did feel a bit odd getting them out again but it makes leaving him home alone that much easier. YY to crate training too, we are staying in a hotel right now visiting DH's brother in hospital, this is our 6th week in a row and we have exhausted all our friends with dog sitting so the fact that he is crated at night and when we leave the room means we can bring him with us.

I wish I could work the link to whippety boy in his newest Milgi coat, he looks fabulous but it is on their FB page and I can't work out how to do that right now. She is a regular on this thread but I wouldn't have gone back for another coat if they weren't fabulous.

TheCunnyFuntIsAGrittersFiancee Mon 01-Apr-13 23:20:28

Would you like me to link MrS? I'm on fb now, it'd only take a minute.

It's really lovely to hear so many positives about Milgi Coats blush - this is where I stand up and say I am Spartacus!

The Blizzard coats are nice (we have several) but for outdoor waterproof/weatherproof my own preference is for the Outhwaites ones. We have one of theirs for our biggest male - they are super warm, v hard wearing, and the Ming the Merciless collar is fab on wet, cold days. A bit more expensive but superb quality. They also do PINK ones shock which I am eyeing up for the Norty Minx. YOu can get them on Amazon, and various websites. And no, I have no connection to them and as they are outdoor coats, no business interest in them, so can be completely neutral.

TheCunnyFuntIsAGrittersFiancee Mon 01-Apr-13 23:35:46

We should get comission for all the good words we spread about Milgi Coats wink

MrSlant Mon 01-Apr-13 23:49:48

Cunny if you can link to the gorgeous photo of whippety boy please do, not that I ever try to show off my beautiful boy at all. Oh no wink.

Scuttle, or Spartacus wink you should be proud of all your return customers, you are doing a great job.

TheCunnyFuntIsAGrittersFiancee Mon 01-Apr-13 23:53:06

MrS' Whippety boy. He's just gorgeous, no-one can resist showing him off!

MagratGarlik Mon 01-Apr-13 23:55:03

He's almost as gorgeous as my whippetty boy, MrS.

I agree though, Scuttle, you are doing a fab job.

TBH it was also the idea of having a big crate somewhere in the house that put me off too! There is room in several places around the house for a dog bed but a crate could really only go in one place as they are so visually in your face. I am a bit soft about the idea of a crate but I don't think they are cruel, I know several families who use them and dog and owner are happy with them.
Dog is in kennels at the moment though so maybe a crate would be less of a huge adjustment? I will ask lovely rescue lady see what she advises.

Have been reassured they have a coat until I get one too so that's a relief, it's so cold at the moment I didn't want her shivering on walks.

Scuttle your coats are lovely, I shall definitely be a future customer! smile

Can't get doggy picture link to work.

Our not-a-real-whippety had to be crate trained as he suffered from separation anxiety and would howl and destroy the house when left home alone for the few hours I have to go to work.

The lovely lady at the rescue kennels we got him from recommended crate training after we had struggled and tried everything for six months and had a destroyed bedroom and living room to show for it and by jove it was a miracle.

Yes it is a large, unsightly crate. But an anxious wreck of a dog and a destroyed house (he chewed belongings, furniture, window blinds and skirting boards) was unslightly and unpleasant too.

He loves his crate. He goes in there voluntarily if we have guests (he is still a bit nervy with too much noise and with new faces) adn when he sees us putting our shoes on in the morning to get ready to go to school he grabs his cuddely pigeon toy and trots off into his crate.

Scuttle - you use other people's coats shock wink

"he grabs his cuddely pigeon toy and trots off into his crate" aaaw he sounds adorable! It sounds like he really benefitted from it too. The only space for one is in my room where it wouldn't be in the way, will definitely look into crate training. smile

MagratGarlik Tue 02-Apr-13 10:05:53

Funny that your Sam has a cuddly pigeon, Behind.

Woody had a cuddly spider and a cuddly dog. Never punctures them just carries them round and plays with them. My previous dog (a collie x) would have destroyed all soft toys.

Sam has Wilbur the cuddely wood pigeon, Molly the cuddely cow and Frank the cuddely monkey.
He carries them around the house, there is always at least one in the same room he is in.
He takes Wilbur into his crate with him, dd ensures Frank and Molly are in there too, and when I come home from work Sam will spend a crazy few minutes running up and down the stairs transferring Frank, Molly and Wilbur from crate to my bed!
When we go on a walk he will often insist on carrying one of his cuddelies. We get quite a few smiles when he does this... smile

As for the crate, we are lucky, it just fitted under the stairs in our hallway so whilst visible it is not so 'in your face'. And yes, Sam loves it, we are very luck we found a solution to his anxiety. smile

MrSlant Tue 02-Apr-13 11:43:58

I do love that photo, thanks for linking Cunny. We are going for a play with a couple of greys tomorrow and he will definitely be wearing it, although I think they will be similarly attired! wink Very excited to be having some greyhound leans though.

Whippety boy loves his crate, having three rather 'spirited' boys in the house I impressed upon them that if he went in there that was his space and he was to be left alone so I is his refuge. That said he is much happier lying across a boy if he can only get then to keep still and he doesn't sleep in DS2's bed at all, oh no

He's also a collector of stuffed toys, his crate is littered with them and he naps cuddling a small Easter duck!

mistlethrush Tue 02-Apr-13 11:57:56

We got a 'pet gate' from Argos when we were having potential SA issues with mistlehound - but even though its taller than a normal stairgate, she just goes straight over the top with ease. However, it is good at keeping her in or out of the kitchen if you are around (eg if she's eating something that needs to be eaten in the kitchen rather than taken into the hall (eg chicken wing).

For her we managed to stop the SA getting ingrained, and now she's pretty laid back about being left - she doesn't want to but you get back and she's been asleep on the sofa - clearly she now realises that we're coming back and that she's safe at home....

We got her a fitted, fleece lined waterproof coat from one of the LL people that makes them to measure - its been very practical over the winter and hasn't needed washing, although it gets rather wet on the sides when she lies down in the snow. We also got a martingale collar through them too - look on the lurcherlink on-line shop links.

We had a lovely run with her yesterday - to a large nearby park and she managed to have a good run with another pointy, and generally a lovely run around just because the sun was shining and she was in a big open area.... and then a spronk into an extremely muddy puddle just as we were getting close to the car.... hmm

MagratGarlik Tue 02-Apr-13 12:07:31

Ours could in theory both jump the stair gates. They don't though because they are too thick

They just stand and look pitifully at the gate, even when it's not clipped shut.

mistlethrush Tue 02-Apr-13 12:15:32

Ours definitely goes over the top, despite lack of grey matter. Mind you, she is now starting to leap around a lot when on walks - we go to a park that has flower beds, some raised up on walls, and one in particular has a box hedge along the front edge as well as a 4' wall up to the box - she casually bounced up there the other day with hardly any effort - and all the fences that our last dog looked at as completely impassable barriers are an easy skip....

TheCunnyFuntIsAGrittersFiancee Tue 02-Apr-13 20:22:15

We just have ordinary Lindam baby gates, Sprocket could probably get over but he's too lazy. Although tbf from inside the kitchen he wouldn't be able to get a good run up and from the other side he'd jump over and probably smack into the cupboards. The top of the gate is the same height as his back shock

No problem MrS, he is a gorgeous boy, he looks so noble in that pic! Have a nice time tomorrow smile

Yy Magrat, Sprocket does that too, just stands and stares at you over the top of it with really sad eyes, even if the gate is open with a 6" gap hmm

mistlethrush Wed 03-Apr-13 09:14:20

Mistlehound doesn't need a run up. She can make it onto the kitchen table in a little pop up if she wants to - like stepping up a step for us hmm

I'm going to have to take her to the vets - she's got conjunctivitis and probably should see the vet at least this time... if its regular perhaps they'll let me get away with just the eye drops?

Oh dear Mistle - yes, def the vet. I never take any chances with eyes.

We had a lovely morning today - met up with Mr Slant and her glorious, adorable bundle of whippet gorgeousness (who was wearing a very smart coat [buwink]). Took the Norty Minx and our lovely Callie and we had a nice walk with some off lead play by the river and then a gentle stroll round the Bay. Amazed at how much attention the dogs attracted, with a queue forming at one point of people wanting to come and make a fuss. Also met another very nice whippy. What a lovely morning. [busmile]

Also, Mr Slant's DC (and DH) are very nice.

mistlethrush Wed 03-Apr-13 14:47:33

I think that you'll find MrSlant quite understands the envious looks at the dog, but if you continue to eye up her DH like that there'll be trouble Scuttle!

Vets booked tonight. Then have to sort the spare room out in case MiL is discharged from hospital where they've still not diagnosed what sort of cancer she's got. confused

TheCunnyFuntIsAGrittersFiancee Wed 03-Apr-13 16:01:09

Poor MistleHound, conjunctivitis is horrible. shock at her jumping! Does she have springs in her legs??
Terribly sorry to hear about your MIL sad

Sounds like you had a great time this morning Scuttle, grin at the queue of people wanting to fuss the dogs, bet they felt like celebrities!

mistlethrush Wed 03-Apr-13 16:31:51

Cunny - yes, she does have springs in her legs. In fact, even quite a lot of the LL lot look shock and hmm at her when they see her bouncing to see over things - because, without making any preparatory spring, she can easily get her head up at the same level as mine (and I'm 5'8") with her back legs not hanging down a lot lower than her front legs. Its one of the things that makes us think that she was in a barn or a shed and probably bounced to try to see out sad although now she does it for fun things and doesn't do it out of the garden grin. In fact, having steeled ourselves to possibly have an escapologist on our hands, she is definitely a home-lover that has absolutely no intention of going anywhere.

Mistle, she sounds amazing. smile Really sorry to hear about your MIL - hoping she can have TLC at home with you.

Yes, Cunny, we had a great time this morning - the girls were so good, and they lapped up the attention. It was lovely to see Mr Slant's whippy and Callie doing zoomies together and playing by the river - Callie went ot say hello to some canoeists who looked a bit surprised when a greyhound suddenly appeared next to them! Norty Minx stayed on lead - her recall is improving but is not yet rock solid. Girls are now having a very relaxing snooze.

MrSlant Wed 03-Apr-13 19:50:02

Well that was a fabulous morning. I don't think Scuttle was eyeing up DH he is full if cold and looks rather pink of eye smile. I am now totally convinced that we will have a Very Tall Whippet one day as the girls were utterly charming. One lady was making such a fuss of Callie she barely said hello to her friend and they hasn't seen each other for years grin. I think I converted her son to Whippets though as he thought Silver was a puppy greyhound but when I explained he was a grown up smaller version he was entranced! It was lovely to see the dogs have a lovely time as well, he really needed a run and looked so happy with his new friends, thank you Scuttle (and I am now the proud owner of a new mad fabric bandana, there will be photo's!)

Our dog is being brought round this afternoon!!! grin

Any tips for me? She is in kennels at the moment so I'm guessing it will take some adjusting for her.

Thanks for all the advice so far, and I'm really enjoying hearing about all your pointies, they all sound like such lovely characters. smile We went to buy some balls yesterday from the pet shop and I told DS to choose a cuddly toy for her - he chose a cuddly donut!

MrSlant Thu 04-Apr-13 09:34:32

How exciting, I have nothing useful to add except, squeeeeeee grin.

mistlethrush Thu 04-Apr-13 10:13:22

Yourhand - we took ours back, not knowing whether she'd cope as an only dog, or whether she was housetrained, or how she'd be with DS (7). She was in with other dogs, with a companion in her run - and the rescue said that she always waited until she was back in to 'perform' so they didn't think she was housetrained. She wasn't (despite being 2 ish). That first afternoon (when we didn't know that we'd be bringing her back) we took her out every 30 mins - for a walk around the block or into the garden. She lasted 4.5 hrs and then, having just come in, did a wee in the hall. It took a while - and it was a case of catching the very slight signs and immediately acting on them to start with, but she did eventually get the idea, and I would say that she is properly housetrained now.

That night we left her in the kitchen - she was OK to start with but got more and more worked up - I ended up taking her mat up and putting it by my bed (she'd already managed to bounce on DS and DH by that stage) and we went to sleep where she could keep on checking I was there - so really close by the bed (but not on it).

Given she had come from where she could hear lots of familiar dogs and was sharing with another dog, we thought that this was better than leaving her upset and alone. We have, after 5 months, progressed to the stage where she now sometimes sleeps on her snuggly bed on the landing, although she still has a bed (not as close) in our room that she can choose instead if she wants to. Ideally she would sleep in the hall, but we have a way to go to get there.

We walked her using a slip lead - and I read this and it stopped me losing her one early walk. We didn't let her off until we had officially adopted her - just before christmas - up until then, once she had settled down, we walked her in a harness and a 2m lead so that she could have a bit more freedom than the slip lead.

Don't buy a big bag of dog food until you've definitely found one that suits - we had found a make and DH bought a different flavour and it turned out that the new one didn't suit her (at all).

Kong toys can be filled with kibble mixed with yoghurt and frozen (if your dog can eat both) and these make a good treat and distraction.

TheCunnyFuntIsAGrittersFiancee Thu 04-Apr-13 20:15:39

How exciting YourHand, how's it going? I have nothing useful to add I'm afraid, Sprocket had already lived in a house for a couple of years before we got him so I skipped the moving from kennel -> house stage.

grin at Very Tall Whippet! I'm sure you'll convince DH one day MrS, you just need to keep chipping away at his resistance wink

MrSlant Thu 04-Apr-13 20:59:46

I have to give Scuttle credit for that Cunny, from the Terry Pratchett series where Corporal Carrott is just a very tall dwarf!

Hope all is going well YourHand, I keep coming back on here for an update like a live birth thread!

MagratGarlik Thu 04-Apr-13 21:30:11

Well, of course, just because he is very tall does not mean that he is not a dwarf.

Keep up updated, YourHand. Nice to think of another pointy dog finding a good home.

That is exactly my argument, Magrat. grin If dog is a whippet, says he is a whippet, but just happens to be a bit tall, but is otherwise a vision of whippetiness, then Mr Slant's DH can be happy that he is sharing his home with a VTW and a SBPF whippet (Small But Perfectly Formed). In fact, as a science teacher, Mr. Slant could remind him of a normal distribution curve, and explain that without the ones on the top end you wouldn't have that beautiful shape. So really, having a VTW is a service to statistics as well.

And Good Luck, Your Hand. We are all looking forward to hearing more about the new arrival. Pics are good too (hint, hint) grin

MrSlant Thu 04-Apr-13 22:20:17

Scuttle grin

MagratGarlik Thu 04-Apr-13 22:20:44


BTW, do you think MN HQ would let us keep the inappropriate bunny smilies just for the pointy hound thread.

A cat has gone missing on our street this week... I did have to hope our two had not somehow sneakily been busy.

MagratGarlik Thu 04-Apr-13 22:24:08

I have to say too, that considering the way Jessie tries to curl up on your lap, she is equally convinced that she is a very tall Iggy.

Hello all! Sorry I didn't come back yesterday was too busy fussing anxiously over new arrival. grin It does feel as big a commitment as adopting a child!

Dog is very nervous and shy, she spent all afternoon sniffing round and round. It took her a while to figure out that the dog bed was comfier than the floor. She was stopped in her tracks by the tv, the washer, and me holding a mug. All she's known is kennels and track.

Left her in the kitchen last night. No barking or crying, and no accidents when I came down at 7. [impressed]

She didn't eat any food yesterday. This morning I made her scrambled eggs (I know but apparently she is used to kebabs and pizzas from takeaway, the dry treats and kibble weren't appealing to her) with a little kibble and she's been so odd with it! She's grabbing a tiny piece from the bowl, then taking it into the garden. When I shut the outside door she took some pieces, put them on her bed, and rolled them into a pile with her nose! Hasn't eaten them though. confused

I will try to do pics but will need to find my camera's usb lead which I put in a safe place!

Oh bless her, Your Hand. Take it very gently these first few days - she is having to learn an enormous amount. Most greys love a routine - so the more you can give that to her, the quicker she will adapt and settle.

Scrambled eggs is actually a very good breakfast - often used for convalescing or recuperating dogs, or ones with sensitive tums. The rolling with the nose thing is what ours do too - usually when they don't want to eat it straightaway, sometimes they actually roll the food into a hiding place (under the duvet or similar). Keep reinforcing going outside regularly for toilet breaks and praising massively if she performs - all of ours "got" housetraining very quickly but we were very slow to pick up on grey's signals to go out - they are often very subtle.

To help the bonding, she may also enjoy a grooming session -especially if she is either losing her kennel coat or going through a spring moult. A hound mitt is perfect - about £5 in PAH - a sort of rubber oven glove with pimples on each side that you use for grooming hound - just sweeping strokes over coat - picks up lots of dead hair and dogs love the attention. smile

I'm sure you are already thinking about these, but don't forget to get her ID tag made up, change her chip details, and book her in for a Getting to know you/introductory appt at the vets. Kennel should also have told you when she was last wormed so ask vet for their recommendation on frequency and mark on calendar. Also, don't delay on sorting out her insurance, and another handy tip once you have some good pics is to pre-register her on Doglost. Hopefully you will NEVER need it, but it's a brilliant idea to get your dogs' details on there before anything happens. The rescue may organise social events for greyhounds - playdates, walks etc - it's great to go to these, as greys really enjoy socialising wiht other pointies, and it's nice for owners to get together too (and compare collar porn!).

Good luck! smile

mistlethrush Fri 05-Apr-13 09:47:34

Lots of pointy hound owners will quite often give their dogs an egg (raw) too.... Some of them give it whole, but (in the winter at least) just crack it on her breakfast.

Have you got food that she's used to from the rescue?

PAH do baked bones that she might also like as a treat - good for teeth.

Quite a lot of lurcher owners also feed raw food all the time - we just give ours some chicken wings on and off for a change and a tooth clean (raw again - chicken is OK if raw, but the bones are dangerous to dogs if cooked).

'High value' treats might also be a very good way to encourage her at the moment - small pieces of sausage in a bag in your pocket, given only when you have asked her to come to you (rather than her mob you for them!)

CMOTDibbler Fri 05-Apr-13 10:31:33

My lurcher likes a tin of sardines or pilchards which are apparently v good for them.

The baked bones are v popular, and I get him a fresh baked bone from the butchers most weeks which gives him a lot of pleasure. Though as they are bigger, they last all week and hurt when lovingly dumped on your lap.

MagratGarlik Fri 05-Apr-13 10:31:37

Jessie had been used to a diet of cigarette butts, guiness, pizza scraps and chips (from what we've been able to glean) when she came to us. She looked at all food she was given (including pilchards) with suspision when she first arrived and I'll admit, i resorted to hand feeding a few times. she wouldn't eat raw, kibble, pilchards or anything much really. Then one day i got tripe for them and she wolfed it down. She's still fussier than woody, but she has a reasonable diet now.

mistlethrush Fri 05-Apr-13 10:38:48

Mine likes pilchards in tomato sauce, and they don't adversely affect her stomach. Mind you, now everything is on an even keel, we're letting her have the odd thing here and there that's not on the 'strictly sensitive stomach' list and she's been fine - eg pizza crusts

So glad of this thread! We used to give our family dog (a spaniel) scrambled eggs so I'd remembered that and thought I'd give them a go.

I think she was being fed what food they had, but the lady coming to the kennels gives them all takeaway food (pizzas, cheese, doner meat, etc) apparently. I'm thinking it's probably more nerves than anything though. Will just keep offering stuff and hopefully as she settles she will get stuck in. Lady who runs rescue said about raw bones so will go get one tomorrow from butchers, and some other bits recommended to try and tempt her. She's drinking water so that's a relief.

She seems to have claimed the kitchen as "her" room, and has been mostly laid in their on her bed. Reluctant to come into living room and hasn't gone near the stairs yet.

The rescue is quite far from me, but we do have a local (mixed dog) rescue and they run lots of classes, play sessions, etc that we can go to when she is settled in. smile

TheCunnyFuntIsAGrittersFiancee Fri 05-Apr-13 11:24:16

Please don't ever feed cooked bones to a dog, they can splinter very easily and cause your dog serious internal damage! Raw bones are much better, I go to our local independent butcher and ask for some raw bones, usually end up with beef ribs. I get a few at a time and put each one in a seperate carrier bag on it's own and freeze them (thanks to Betsey for that tip!). The seperate bags are so they don't all freeze together so you end up with a massive lump of frozen bones grin

YourHand she sounds lovely, v. impressed at no accidents all night! Everything must be so scary for her at the moment, she'll get used to it all in time though. Hoping for piccies soon though grin yy to oily fish, I buy Tesco value sardines in tomato sauce for Sprocket, 34p a tin and he loves them! Plus the oil in them is good for his coat smile

JazzTheDog Fri 05-Apr-13 11:26:58

I have finally registered today after over a year of lurking!

I have a rescue greyhound taking up every seat I want to sit on in the house.

mistlethrush Fri 05-Apr-13 11:29:38

Jazz, nice to meet you ! Is that one grey moving round to be with you and occupy your seat of choice, or lots and lots of greys?

JazzTheDog Fri 05-Apr-13 11:38:03

One who just moves on to whichever seat she's seen me eyeing up! Also have 2 kitty cats who she is terrified of.

TheCunnyFuntIsAGrittersFiancee Fri 05-Apr-13 11:39:16

Welcome to the cushion Jazz! grin at no available seats due to Greyhound(s?) taking them all up, sounds about right, I'm sure Scuttle will be able to relate to that!

TheCunnyFuntIsAGrittersFiancee Fri 05-Apr-13 11:41:04

Ahh x post. Just the one. How long have you had her?

MagratGarlik Fri 05-Apr-13 11:41:05

We give both ours a teaspoon of fish oil on their dinner at night. It helps keep them shiny. We also add seaweed extract, which has lots of minerals and is supposed to help their metabolism.

Also, wait a few weeks for her to settle in and then start going to a good (positive) trainer. Both ours loved it and it helps get used to other (non-pointy) dogs in a controlled environment. My trainer was fab, had rescues herself and the dogs were always guaranteed a big fuss there.

Welcome Jazz.

JazzTheDog Fri 05-Apr-13 12:29:11

Thanks for the welcomes, she's been here for just about 2 years now and will be 8 this year.

Hi Jazz smile

DS has said dog is like Jumpy Squirrel (from Curious George). She's still trying to hide her food in her flat bed, and even if the door to the garden is ajar she just points her nose at it until me or ds push it open a few more inches. Apparently she was the smart one of the litter! hmm grin I've brushed a shed load of fur off her and she's lived through the hoover being on. So far so good.

She has that awful kennel smell. Has anyone on here used those dial a dog wash type people that come to you??

mistlethrush Fri 05-Apr-13 17:09:50

We couldn't cope with the kennel smell and put ours in the bath on evening 2. She didn't hate it as much as our previous dog, and has had another one since. We use the shower attachment with a gentle spray and warm water and a sensitive skin dog shampoo (if I'm not allergic to it when I've given them a bath, I don't think any dog will be!)

Hmm I don't trust our shower it's a bit too temperamental. Ok for me as I can jump away while I readjust it but can't exactly move/lift a big greyhound! Then there's the stairs....

CMOTDibbler Fri 05-Apr-13 18:54:43

Yes, we've done dial a dog wash, and they were v good. Now he gets plonked in the bath on a Sunday night, but initially it was a lot easier and less stressful.

Cmotdog has had a blissful day of snoring in the sun, getting fussed by our cleaner, two dog biscuits from the postie, then a nice walk into town to get a new cow hoof and a biscuit from the pet stall lady.

TheCunnyFuntIsAGrittersFiancee Fri 05-Apr-13 19:45:56

I rang one of those dog groomers that come to you and wash the dog in a van. They quoted £26 for a bath, claw clipping and ears cleaning out shock I rang another place, just at someones house in their conservatory, £10. You can guess which one I went for!

We have a very excited grey here - it's his birthday on Monday and a birthday card has arrived in the post for him. smile We haven't opened it yet, but I think it might be from his brother, who lives in Lincolnshire. grin We might also go really mad and treat him to some liver cake.

TheCunnyFuntIsAGrittersFiancee Sat 06-Apr-13 17:18:26

<whistles innocently>

TheCunnyFuntIsAGrittersFiancee Sat 06-Apr-13 17:19:36

<hands round nose pegs for the upcoming Liver cake>

In fact, he's going to be having two lots of celebration cake. There'll be liver or something equally vile on Monday but it's also my birthday so I always make us a joint "proper" birthday cake - with candles. However, DNs are coming over for a dog show next weekend so I'll wait till then and do a cake for us all to enjoy, including the hounds. smile

TheCunnyFuntIsAGrittersFiancee Sat 06-Apr-13 18:41:11

Awww, me and FIL had a joint cake once, my 18th and his 50th, it was a book and my half was pink icing and sponge, and his half was blue icing and sponge. You could do a joint cake for you and Andy, a book, half liver cake and half sponge cake grin grin

Did someone say cake? grin

3ismylot Sun 07-Apr-13 11:26:43

Hi all just popping in to join you all as we got our new greyhound yesterday grin
He is 18 months old and a failed racer due to breaking a toe as a puppy.

He is so sweet and great with the kids smile just took him for a walk and he is amazing on the lead too x

He has just eaten breakfast and has taken up his space on the sofa for a snooze grin

MagratGarlik Sun 07-Apr-13 11:39:10

He sounds lovely, 3.

Pics please....

Aaw 3 he sounds lovely smile. My girl is a similar age, 20 months.

Quick question - how long before I should worry about dog not eating?? Since she got here she's had the odd nibble, half the contents of a kong, a few mouthfuls. She's drinking but barely eating.

At this stage I wouldn't worry at all. It's perfectly natural for the stress and upheaval of settling in to a new home to affect both appetite and it's results.

Don't fuss her - try her with a small bowl of mashed sardines, or maybe a few cubes of cheese, or we get those frozen packs of chicken breasts and poach them in the slow cooker in water, let them cool - these are perfect if any of them are under the weather or in need of a little extra tempting. If she is showing interest in any sorts of treats, nibbles, cheese etc, then all is well. I'd be waiting at least a couple more days though before being worried, especially as she is drinking. The other thing we find (not useful yet but will be in the summer) is that ours have significantly less appetite when the weather is hot, and often turn up their noses at meals or just have a desultory nibble. Once it cools down, they revert to their normal gannet mode. grin

Thanks Scuttle.

On the advice here I'd gone out and bought some sardines yesterday. She left her morning meal but has eaten her tea (a mixture of a little scrambled egg, a little mashed pilchard, and a bit of kibble)!! smile smile So relieved she seems to be settling. smile

I have to say she's been super despite being nervous - I'm extremely taken with her despite the smell. grin

Maisiewhippet Sun 07-Apr-13 21:00:48

Hi everyone,can I join you on the cushion? I live near Carmarthen in west Wales and have a 10month old whippet that a friend rescued.It was love at first sight even though she's nuts.Sleeps under my duvet!chucks toys everywhere,lacks any special awareness and launches herself everywhere but has learned to recall and the other basic commands.She really needs a companion to play with. When i take her to the beach she just looks around for dogs to race with and is so happy when she finds one.Ive registered with Scruples but is there anyone in this part of the country that rescues whippets or small greyhounds (under 24inches,got a small cottage!). Also,anyone in this part of the country that takes their dogs to LLanstephan beach?
Going to read all the pointy face stuff now,there is so much brilliant info on this site. Thanks.

TheCunnyFuntIsAGrittersFiancee Sun 07-Apr-13 23:04:59

Yay 3is! How exciting, sounds like you love him to bits already smile

Welcome Maisie smile have a seat! Your Whippy sounds gorgeous, I'd live a Whippet one day. There are actually a few people on the cushion who live in Wales, 2 of whom have Whippets! Well, one is a 90% Whippy. Hopefully they'll be a long soon smile

Scuttle has discovered that as well as his brother, whose birthday is tomorrow! Sprocket is related to the Norty Minx and her sadly deceased boy! How amazing is that!?!

MrSlant Sun 07-Apr-13 23:23:56

Busy weekend, amazing how much energy taking boys to a skate park can use up.

Maisie we can't be too far from you! I will inbox you.

Lovely reading everyone's news, especially excited at all the new dogs, will post more tomorrow.

Maisiewhippet Sun 07-Apr-13 23:46:35

Wow,thank you for the welcome and quick response.Ube sent MrSlant a pm.Think it went! Better go and let the four legged thug in from her evening constitutional!

MagratGarlik Mon 08-Apr-13 00:01:30

Welcome, Maisie good to see some more whippet slaves on the cushion.

I'm feeling kind of jealous of you ground owners though, that you can find out so much about your dogs past lives and family. We can only speculate (though given Jessie was salivating at two cats on our front earlier, we can assume she was worked).

3ismylot Mon 08-Apr-13 07:39:10

Hi guys not sure how to put a pic up but will try later smile he is a brindle so has some lovely markings x

He is settling in well, he had a bit of a cry and some door scratching last night when we went to bed but only lasted 10 mins and we got up to no accidents so all is good x
He is currently taking up 50% of the sofa and getting cuddled by dd who is 3 grin

We checked his history last night, he never raced but comes from good stock, his grandad was one of the droopy racers
( For anyone who takes an interest in racing) and the charity has asked for updates and photos to send to the breeder as they like to know how all their dogs are doing.

TheCunnyFuntIsAGrittersFiancee Mon 08-Apr-13 09:25:42

3is he sounds like he's settling in really well. Hooray! For no accidents overnight smile
I hope you don't think I'm being preachy, but do you know how to read his body language and understand when he's had enough? If not, this website is incredibly useful and simple to understand.

This is good too, I have these stuck to our fridge, mainly for DP who is a twit and would probably let DD (21mo) to use Sprocket as a climbing frame if she wanted to. hmm

TheCunnyFuntIsAGrittersFiancee Mon 08-Apr-13 09:28:31

Also on another note, the Droopys are a big family aren't they? How many offspring does his father have? Sprocket currently has 4427 siblings, his father was Brett Lee who is still producing puppies now even though he died over 2 years ago!

3ismylot Mon 08-Apr-13 09:37:42

Ooh thanks for links am off for a good read x

Droopy family is massive ( am an ex bookie so have seen plenty of them race lol)
Will have to have a good reaf of his history later as dh just had a quick scan of it last night x

TheCunnyFuntIsAGrittersFiancee Tue 09-Apr-13 09:51:38
TheCunnyFuntIsAGrittersFiancee Tue 09-Apr-13 09:52:42

Wow that dog is so cute! Never seen markings like that before. smile

Those links to the posters are great, I may print them out for DS.

MagratGarlik Tue 09-Apr-13 10:35:12

That dog is gorgeous - there's obviously some Labrador in there, but what gives those markings?

TheCunnyFuntIsAGrittersFiancee Tue 09-Apr-13 11:34:31

There's a name for it that begins with C, but I can't chuffing remember!

TheCunnyFuntIsAGrittersFiancee Tue 09-Apr-13 11:35:51

Oh and he is a Labrador! Although he has a massive head which makes me think of a Retriever, maybe he's a Lab x Retriever.

MagratGarlik Tue 09-Apr-13 11:43:15


I was just watching Jessie walking into the room. She always puts me in mind of some ageing model. Tall and with legs that kind of take over her whole body. Anyone else get the same impression from their pointy?

mistlethrush Tue 09-Apr-13 13:00:54

That's a Tabby dog!!! grin

Mistlehound, whilst she does have long legs, is more obviously 'long' rather than tall. She is exceptionally long for her height.

MissBetseyTrotwood Tue 09-Apr-13 20:04:27

Hi y'all!

Billy's off to kennels for 2 weeks on Thursday and is healing up nicely. DH has been last minute called for some dream work in the US he can't turn down and our lovely dog walker has a job in Malta. She's Italian and it turns out that Billy has a whole lotta social life when she walks him! Her friends live on a house boat on the river next to us and apparently he goes and hangs out there with them... we bumped into these aquaintances of ours the other day and the woman got a wag, lean and head press! I was shock and she was all 'we're old friends'. Who knew?

He's being kennelled with Pixie, an 8yo black girl who is very sweet apparently. Not that I requested them to be set up when we booked in last week, oh no...

We're all walking them together on Thursday when we drop him off. wink

TheCunnyFuntIsAGrittersFiancee Tue 09-Apr-13 20:11:35

It's Chimera! That's the name I was trying to remember.

Hi Betsey! Glad to hear Billy is doing well, how is he with other dogs now? grin At his socialising! It'll be lovely if he and Pixie get on well won't it? And for 2 whole weeks! It'd be terribly cruel to tear them apart wouldn't it? wink grin

MagratGarlik Tue 09-Apr-13 20:18:15

Oooo, two matching black greyhounds -that'd be lovely.

:-D at Billy's social life.

TheCunnyFuntIsAGrittersFiancee Tue 09-Apr-13 20:25:45

Sprocket is going on a short holiday too, he's going to the fosterers next Wednesday and coming home the following Monday. I'm going away for a few days on the Thursday (18th), I'm going to Wales to visit a friend who also happens to own Greyhounds. . . grin I'm leaving DD and DP and I cannot WAIT!!

MagratGarlik Tue 09-Apr-13 21:32:50

How lovely, Cunny. Have a wonderful time!

Pixie and Billy - here's hoping for a wonderful fortnight together... wink

YY to two matching black greys - so beautiful. So right.

grin at Cunny's trip to Wales. It will be immense!

MissBetseyTrotwood Tue 09-Apr-13 22:44:22

If there were a 'LIKE' button for Cunny's Welsh odyssey I'd be hitting it right now!

Pixie is right at the bottom. Bad photo but let's see how things go on Thursday. She'll need to like a loud house. Billy likes nothing better than curling up on the sofa for a Star Wars session. Especially if it's the one with the Ewoks. grin

I want to know roughly where she's been for the first 8 years of her life too...

TheCunnyFuntIsAGrittersFiancee Tue 09-Apr-13 22:44:29

It will indeed Scuttle, it will indeed!

Anyone else have anything fun planned for next weekend then? How about you Scuttle? wink

Oh and yy to ageing model Magrat! My friend has a brindle grund, I love the way she walks, she kind of sashays, but stiffly iykwim? She's 9 or 10 now though so I imagine when she was younger it was much more flouncy grin

TheCunnyFuntIsAGrittersFiancee Tue 09-Apr-13 22:48:59

She sounds lovely Betsey. I did a double take when I saw Hugo though! If he had white right up to his bottom lip he'd be the spitting image of Sprocket!

MissBetseyTrotwood Tue 09-Apr-13 22:55:50

So many black dogs in there at the mo. My faves are Froggy and Lottie but I'm a sucker for the underdog (no pun intended) and I worry that poor little Pixie won't find anyone... DH is very anti but he always says no. Then he gives things a try and likes them.

Off to bed now... I'm on early morning walk tomorrow! Night x

TheCunnyFuntIsAGrittersFiancee Tue 09-Apr-13 23:00:29

DP is like that Betsey, he won't try new foods/fruit/green veg because they look disgusting hmm but I blindfolded him once and fed him a load of strawberries and he really liked them!

TheCunnyFuntIsAGrittersFiancee Tue 09-Apr-13 23:00:53

Goodnight Betsey smile xx

MrSlant Tue 09-Apr-13 23:12:54

Hmmm, I might be in a certain area of Wales near the weekend...

TheCunnyFuntIsAGrittersFiancee Tue 09-Apr-13 23:18:55

How is your BIL MrS?

Saw David today, he's looking so much better but he's awfully fed up. He'll probably have to have his feeding tube in for a year or so! shock The flappy bit that separates the food pipe from the windpipe is knackered, that's why the bits of food were getting into his lungs.

MagratGarlik Tue 09-Apr-13 23:21:54

Funny, sashaying - yes that's exactly it, but stiffly as you say (she's at least 7 by now - we think more like 10). I think the flamboyant stripes add to the effect.

Morning all, think we might be able to have a Wales quiche at this rate!

Betsey, Pixie is adorable - I really hope she finds a sofa soon. wink

Next weekend, Cunny - ooh, let me see - think we have a visitor coming......grin

mistlethrush Wed 10-Apr-13 09:09:12

We've got a day's racing on Saturday - DS and I will be taking mistlehound. Apparently they're even borrowing some crates so that people can crate their dogs in the cafe area and sit down properly - we normally leave one out with the dog and the other one does all the fetching etc....


Just ordered this for ShyDog, it's ever so pretty. smile
Have also ordered a nice leather collar and lead for walkies. I need to hide my bank card now!

I love black dogs and cats, I think they're the best - don't understand why people aren't keen. I've ended up with a beautiful fawn and white GH though, maybe if I win the lottery and get a bigger house I'll get a black GH too. grin

this is the seller's shop [drool]

mistlethrush Wed 10-Apr-13 14:00:32

Warning, high collar porn allert!:


I think DH would notice though, wouldn't he?

TheCunnyFunt Wed 10-Apr-13 14:46:15

I love that Artemis site, I will have one of their collars one day!

They're lovely ones too YourHand.

A couple of other websites are Dog O'nine Tails and Meggie Moo.

A visitor you say Scuttle? That's a coincidence, considering I'm going to Wales the same weekend you're getting a visitor grin

MrSlant Wed 10-Apr-13 14:51:33

Cunny still in a coma unfortunately. I'm so glad your brother is looking better, what a nightmare that he will be tube fed for so long, will they fit a peg or will he have to have an annoying NG tube the whole time? He must be desperate for a bit of flavour and something to chew. DBil's mates were asking if they could fit a nice bit of cheese down his feeding tube last week grin.

I've just remembered that I have whippety's brother and my friends other dog for a week from this weekend so I won't be able to come over and say hi, I thought we would be visiting but I'd forgotten about the damn dogs!

Who linked to that website for rehoming greyhounds? I waaaaant one so bad now! Scuttle, do you remember about the grey that was in rescue near here that I told you about, one of my friends lost her old girl and went straight over to get him because I told her about him too. So now I get to see him every day on the beach grin.

Yes, Cunny, isn't that amazing? wink

Don't worry, Mr Slant, I'm sure there will be other opportunities for a mini MN meetup. smile I think we need to give OPERATION VERY TALL WHIPPET some serious planning... smile

That's so lovely about the grey in rescue - sounds like she has found a wonderful forever home.

TheCunnyFunt Wed 10-Apr-13 19:38:04

MrS they're talking about moving the tube to his stomach so he can speak, at the moment he can only whisper because the tube is down his throat. It really sucks for him, because he's living with his step mum who owns and lives in a country pub that do fantastic meals and massive ones too. Although he can stay upstairs he can still smell all the delicious smells floating up the stairs.

TheCunnyFunt Wed 10-Apr-13 19:48:14

MrS they're talking about moving the tube to his stomach so he can speak, at the moment he can only whisper because the tube is down his throat. It really sucks for him, because he's living with his step mum who owns and lives in a country pub that do fantastic meals and massive ones too. Although he can stay upstairs he can still smell all the delicious smells floating up the stairs.

I'm keeping fingers and toes crossed for your BIL.

Yy to a MN meet up! That would be awesome smile

TheCunnyFunt Wed 10-Apr-13 19:48:53

Not sure what happened there confused

MagratGarlik Thu 11-Apr-13 10:34:06

MrS, have you seen Harvey on the Scruples fb page? He is currently in Stirling, but they can arrange transport to the right home.... Just wondered...

Hello all, sorry it has been so long again (RL keeps interfering, gah!)

Mrs S, what happened to your BIL? Sounds awful, whatever it was. Sending a hug and Sam the pretend-whippet sends a tentative lick (but he munched horse poo on our walk this morning so don't get too close blush)
And what is operation TALL whippet???

Cunny, glad to hear D is on the mend, hopefully he will be happier once the tube is in his stomach. Fingers crossed he will be able to taste food soon!
I am envy at your trip to Wales!! Have a lovely time x

Betsey, I love love love the look of Pixie. Fingers crossed they get on and have a cosy time in the kennel. Is Billy all healed up now? Did the other dog owner's insurance pay up?

Not much to report here. Sam is still a pretend-dog. Lovely though.
Easter holidays have flown by. Am dreading returning to school on Monday. Not because I don't enjoy it but because I love being at home so much!!

We met two wonderful Podencos on our walk yesterday. And I thought Sam had wonderful ears!! Wow, gorgeous dogs smile

TheCunnyFunt Thu 11-Apr-13 15:57:03

Well it's official! My train ticket to Wales is booked! I am sooooo excited! grin

MissBetseyTrotwood Thu 11-Apr-13 19:02:32

Oh look! Ruby is reserved! I wonder who she'll be kennelled with over the next 10 days and do everything with? And then go home with? wink grin grin grin

We walked Pixie and she was not suitable for us. Very very strong on the lead, no sense of walking with us iykwim. I could never have walked her with the boys. And at 8 years old, she was totally fit, strong and very, very muscular! Since retiring at 4 she'd been passed around RGT kennels sad but we couldn't have coped with her. She was sweet with the boys but would doubtless have knocked them over in a second.

So... we went back to the kennel after the walk, explained she was not for us and they brought out Ruby. Who, when I took her little face in my hand and stroked her and she looked into my eyes, was immediately loveable. She was a bit too interested in Billy's nether regions at first, which he did not like and was a bit growly, but they soon settled down on a walk together and jumped into bed together quite happily after a bit of a pad around. She's got that look. A real female Billy, sniffing the boys faces really gently and enjoying the gentle fuss they gave her.

So we'll be taking her on trial at first, to see how we and she cope with it all.


Hurrah for the Welsh trip!

Still no pay out Lock - good to hear Sam's on form.

TheCunnyFunt Thu 11-Apr-13 19:30:56

Aww yay! How exciting! And how lovely that they'll be able to get to know each other while they're kennelled together smile I'm so pleased for you all!

angry at the other dog owner though, what a barstool.

MagratGarlik Thu 11-Apr-13 19:53:56

Yay!!! Another multi-dog household. How exciting.

I hope you have a good time in Wales too, Cunny.

OOOH, Betsey, this is so exciting. Billy will have a special friend. Keeping fingers, toes and paws crossed for a successful getting to know you period in kennels, then a smooth home trial. Keep us posted. smile

Just think, a week today, we'll also have a special houseguest - coming from strange northern lands. Both the girls were farting tremendously tonight - DH had to open the door to the garden for a bit to get some oxygen in to the room - have warned all grunds that bottoms must be set to stun only while we have special visitors.

This is a glimpse into life chez Butter. DH has just gone downstairs to get a dustpan and brush for our bed. hmm This is because Andy was having a hole digging session in the garden earlier, while it was raining. Then he came upstairs and did zoomies on the bed - DH is now brushing off the worst of it. Thankfully it was due to be changed tomorrow anyway. Sigh.

TheCunnyFunt Thu 11-Apr-13 22:40:58

Oooh <special> I'm not used to stinky dog farts! Sprocket farts but they only smell if he needs a poo. Should I bring a peg just in case? grin

That norty Andy! This is where baby gates come in extremely handy. If Sprocket decides to paddle in the mud I can contain him to the kitchen, until his paws are clean.

MrSlant Thu 11-Apr-13 23:07:03

Betsy how incredibly exciting, you will be so excited to get back from holiday, fantastic that you have rescued another of these lovely hounds, I am sooooo chuffed for you.

Lock, darling, darling lovely bil had a knock to the head playing rugby and has been unconscious for nearly 6 weeks, bloody stupid game, sad. Minor amongst this is we had to say no to a lovely whippet girl we were going to offer a forever home to, we can't have another dog at the moment as everything is totally upside down, it's hard enough on poor whippety boy as we are travelling every weekend a couple of hundred miles to do hospital visiting. He did get to come with us last time though and totally rocked being a hotel dog. He wore his best Milgi coat and smartest lead and walked through the reception as if he was born to it and didn't turn a hair at being in and out of lifts grin. We also had a bonus walk with two rather splendid greyhounds belonging to a certain serial grey owner. Operation Very Tall Whippet is to persuade DH that greyhounds are only really tall whippet height after all...

Cunny, it will be great when your brother gets his peg then, I feel for him smelling lovely food all the time and not being able to eat it, I would have to go and live in a tent away from all food if it was me.

I'm dreading Monday too as whippety boy and I both prefer to stay in bed in the morning! We will be a two whippet family as we have our boy's brother coming to stay whilst his human family go on holiday, it will be utter chaos because as siblings they are very bonkers when they get to spend time together.

MagratGarlik Thu 11-Apr-13 23:15:36

Jessie reeks! No matter what she's eaten, she smells of cabbage. I blame her grund genes. Woody being a refined whippy of course never stinks grin

MissBetseyTrotwood Fri 12-Apr-13 07:56:25

Thanks MrS, I love that your whippy is rocking the hotel dog thing. We know a gay couple near us with two whippets who are always immaculate. They have a coat/collar wardrobe and they co ordinate them when they go out! I hardly ever see them wearing the same outfit!

Magrat - the FARTS are the only thing I'm worried about. We are a flatulent family (DH anyway) and as both dogs will sleep in our bedroom... eww.

It's pouring here today.

MissBetseyTrotwood Fri 12-Apr-13 07:59:46

Scuttle, just saw the crumbs in the bed thing. We get so classy when we own dogs, don't we? I'm trying to persuade DH to take ours to the studio with him just like Trent Reznor does but he's worried because there's a geriatric resident cat couple (Reverb and Bass I think?) they might be a little too interested in!

Y to the baby gates Cunny. We use them a lot when we have visiting children who are scared of Billy.

mistlethrush Fri 12-Apr-13 08:23:23

Gates (even the higher pets ones) no good here as the dog simply jumps over - although its fine for keeping the dog in the same room as you (ie the kitchen) which wasn't exactly the original idea, but comes in useful sometimes!

DS and I have an early start tomorrow to get to the racing on time - but he's going to have breakfast there (or a 2nd breakfast) and no doubt a burger or something for lunch so is quite happy! I hope the weather is a bit better than it is this morning though.

Farting - was awful to start with but has improved significantly - apart from the evening when she'd eaten the most part of a cheesecake earlier - you could almost see the cloud above her basket then!

She has a squeeker toy that she was given at christmas and it is still around - it has a tiny hole, but she has not attempted to de-stuff it, and indeed is not at all rough with it - just likes throwing it around and pouncing on it. Last night the throwing got a bit carried away - she managed to get a bit of chew up to the ceiling before it fell down behind something (that I then had to move to retreive it).

TheCunnyFunt Fri 12-Apr-13 09:30:03

mistle how about one of these? grin have a good day racing won't you? Sounds like great fun!

MrS I'm loving the description of Whippety boy at the hotel grin did he have a pair of giant sunglasses that hid his face from the paps? Yy to living in a tent. David said he was tempted to move into the chicken coop!

Betsey the gay couple sound awesome, I bet the Whippets are always impeccably turned out too aren't they? I can't imagine a Whippet being anything other than impeccable though tbh grin

mistlethrush Fri 12-Apr-13 09:49:09

Cunny, yes, those would definitely work. However, I think that we would have to take the kitchen door off to fit one... and we might get a few raised eyebrows if we ever came to sell the house grin

Mistlehound doesn't appear to be of a particularly high IQ (plenty of grey in her I think) and working out how to open one of those would almost certainly be beyond her. She even manages to get her head out of a door and wedge her shoulders and give up at the moment grin. She is, gradually and slowly, adding to her repertoire of words that she knows. I don't think she'll ever manage to catch a biscuit though - I can sometimes hit her nose (gently!) with a run of 10 treats and she makes no effort to catch them before they hit her!!!)

Oh MrsS, that is awful news about your BIL. I really hope there is some positive news soon, what a nightmare sad

I can just see Whippety strolling round the hotel in all his finery though, waht a lovely mental image smile

My pretend-Whippety is not at all refined. He is a bit too ungainly and does not carry himself gracefully like true whippets.
He is also permanently covered in mud somewhere on his body...

We are taking him to North Norfolk for a long weekend in May. We have hired a cottage and booked a seal-watching boat trip on which he is welcome too grin

Cunny, have a fab time at Scuttle's even if she will be making you sleep in a bed full of doggy muddy crumbs!! wink

MrSlant Fri 12-Apr-13 11:53:29

He walks like a racehorse most of the time! Particularly on slippy marble tiles, he looked super elegant. I will admit that I took time over his wardrobe, lime green leather broad collar, matching colour tweed lead and his super elegant black/bright mad flowers pattern Milgi walking out coat (which has accents of lime green). He looked superb. Any paps he would probably just have been aloof licked them all over and begged to be their friend.

I hope he enjoys his seal watching trip, I bet he'll love it, our hotel room was on the 9th floor so whippety boy spent his whole time looking down on seagulls etc, seemed to be fascinating!

I know exactly where you are coming from with the treats on the nose scenario, great fun though grin.

Reverb and Bass are such cool names for studio cats. grin

I love that Trent Reznor has all those greyhounds elegantly draped over his studio - I bet everyone else gets secretly pissed off though,as they are constantly either tripping over them or getting gassed.

Mistle - have a fabulous time at the races. Go Mistlehound!

We've got our two youngest nephews coming over this weekend, and taking them to local greyhound charity Spring Fun Day and charity dog show on Sunday. Should be great fun, though the weather forecast is a bit iffy. Still, we can all put boots on and we won't rust. Will also be making a birthday cake for me and Andy, that I can share with DH and the boys. Will probably use my Ikea heart shaped silicon mould - it's perfect for a 3 egg Victoria sponge, and looks lovely just split, with jam and buttercream. I've become quite converted to using those silicon cake cases - absolutely brilliant. Sorry for wandering off thread a bit there. blush

MagratGarlik Fri 12-Apr-13 13:42:02

We had some cats outside the house, earlier - one ginger stripped and one black. Cue dogs standing battling at the window, then running to me and looking with pleading eyes, "can we have them? Please, can we have them- look they match us".

It's amazing how Jessie morphs when she sees anything furry from quiet, placid girl to slobbering beast. Woody just follows suit.

It is a pity I will miss going to see the racing this weekend - I think it will be fairly broken bone incompatible, so I'm going to sit home and feel sorry for myself instead.

Cake sounds yummy, Scuttle. You are very talented in these things. Actually, that's what I'll do this afternoon - get the boys baking. OK, that's the rest of today sorted....

MagratGarlik Fri 12-Apr-13 13:42:52

*barking, not battling. Stupid predictive text (again).

Magrat, cake is embarrassingly simple. blush I use Mary Berry's all in one recipe (have done for nearly 20 years) and it is guaranteed to work. Wish I could send you a virtual slice and hope broken limb mends rapidly.

And an afternoon of baking, barking and battling sounds great!

MrSlant hope your BIL gets better soon how scary! I'm loving all these dogs on holiday images. smile I have finally managed to get a photo of Shy Dog, it's on my profile.

TheCunnyFunt Fri 12-Apr-13 14:49:07

Yy to silicone cake cases! Great aren't they? I have a few of them. Although I gave up with the muffin cases, they were too fiddly to clean out and they just kept going mouldy from tiny bits getting missed.

Oh dear Magrat, it must be pretty boring being linited to what you can do! How mobile are you?

YourHand she's gorgeous! Is that a holiday pic on there too? Looks lovely and hot wherever it is!

Thanks Lock, I will smile Funny you should mention muddy doggy crumbs actually, just discovered I will be sleeping in Andy's bed shock grin

I've never tried a silicone cake case, I will have to give them a go as everyone only has good to say about them.

Yes it is a holiday snap, El Djem in Tunisia. I took DS last summer we had a fab time, and yep it was very hot - in the 40s most of the time!

ShyDog still hasn't mastered stairs, she's not even tried and I'm quite glad as I have enough bed invaders as it is! grin

mistlethrush Fri 12-Apr-13 15:11:57

We've managed to persuade mistledog that beds really are for humans not dogs, although she's very envious and occasionally sneeks up if I'm not around... However, on her first night she managed a bounce from ds's doorway on to his bed (about 6' in sideways distance, plus the 'up') in a bound, then went from the bottom corner of our (king size) bed to the far side where DH was sleeping - again in a single move... neither recipient of her happiness at being allowed out of the kitchen to be with the rest of the family was particularly grateful of the experience grin

Any plans for the summer half term yet? I'm wondering if we'll find a friendly dog for mistlehound to romp on the dunes with.

TheCunnyFunt Fri 12-Apr-13 15:51:04

The only thing I will say about the silicone cases is, you have to take the cake out almost straight away otherwise it'll sweat and get a soggy bottom. No-one likes a soggy bottom do they?

Ooh Tunisia? Lovely, I'd heard it was hot but in the 40's? Ouch!

CMOTDibbler Fri 12-Apr-13 18:37:57

I have to say, everything I've made in the muffin silicone cases has not gone well.
Currently I have a batch of gluten/grain/dairy free choc chip cookies cooling which I baked on silicone sheets, which are brilliant.

Foiled by cat1s reluctance to play with his toys, cmotdog is now dropping them on the rabbit hutch in the vain hope that he will play hmm

Cunny, which Andy??? wink

TheCunnyFunt Fri 12-Apr-13 19:57:21

CMOT I had a nosy at your piccies to see if there was one of cmotdog (I forget who has what hound blush) and OMG your DS and his pony! Squeee! So cute!!! And I'm loving the spotty red dress too smile
grin at trying to persuade the rabbit to play grin

Lock! shock Andy the Greyhound of course! grin

MagratGarlik Fri 12-Apr-13 20:02:15

Cunny, I'm on crutches but cannot put weight on my leg, so I can move around, but not for long. After 100 metres I am exhausted. I also can't drive either atm.

On the plus side, I am hoping the crutches will do wonders for the tone of my arms.

Our house spans 3 floors though and I have to go up and down on my bottom whilst carrying the crutches. It is very undignified. The dogs are annoyed that they currently miss their lunchtime walk.

YourHand, shydog is gorgeous.

TheCunnyFunt Fri 12-Apr-13 20:38:14

Oh blimey. You must be ever so fed up! You'll have to take up knitting wink grin Just a tip, MIL used to live in a 3 storey house and she got knocked off her pushbike and got a broken leg, it never healed properly and it's a bit mangled now. When they still lived in the 3 storey she'd chuck all the dirty laundry out the windows onto the patio below so she didn't have to cart it up and down the stairs grin

MagratGarlik Fri 12-Apr-13 20:46:58

I will admit, our stairs have a gap down the middle so from the top floor, you can see the ground floor. I have been known to chuck the washing down the gap rather than carrying it blush.

Now I'm just ignoring it and leaving it for dp to do. The problem is men have an amazing ability to not see jobs that need doing in the house.

MissBetseyTrotwood Fri 12-Apr-13 21:01:37

More celebs with greyhounds.

I am a tiny bit, slightlyish obsessed with Damian Lewis at the moment. (Have just started watching Homeland) and I didn't know his wife was Helen McRory. Who I met with greyhound in a cafe in Hackney and who, it turned out, adopted from the same place as us. She wasn't very friendly. But anyway, my Damian Lewis fixation has entered new territory now I know he's a greyhound owner too. And lives in Hackney. <rubs hands on thighs, stares into middle distance>

Arf @ cmotdog and his determination.

That's really sad that she wasn't friendly, Betsey. One of the nicest things about being owned by a pointy is that wherever you go, generally if you see another pointy nose, you tend to gravitate and chat (and compare collars blush). The other embarrassing thing is that very often I will talk to DH on the phone and say "We met this lovely grund today at the park, nice pointy nose, lovely lean, gorgeous collar etc, dog is called Spot, is related to etc etc ". After 10 minutes of dog's life history DH will ask about the owner and I will go blank and say something like "Um, oh, it was a nice man, I think" blush One of the few times that being a sleb will make absolutely no difference cos most pointy fiends will be far more interested in her grund's family tree, which kennel etc than who she is married to.

Lakers38 Fri 12-Apr-13 22:47:24

Hi, I love Greyhounds, I owned 4 until last year when sadly my oldest died. Still got 3.

MissBetseyTrotwood Sat 13-Apr-13 09:33:33

I know Scuttle. I couldn't have given less of a monkey's about her celebness. The dog otoh...! That's funny about your DH - love that he notices the collar too!

As we know too many Rubies who are actual little girls, we're going to call her Roxy

Hi Lakers38!

MissBetseyTrotwood Sat 13-Apr-13 09:34:48

(Billy has the chaps one.)

MagratGarlik Sat 13-Apr-13 10:11:15

That collar is fab, Betsey.

MissBetseyTrotwood Sat 13-Apr-13 18:20:29

I love a bit of kitsch, me.

TheCunnyFunt Sat 13-Apr-13 18:30:16

Ooh gorgeous collar Betsey! Loving that it matches Billy's grin

Hi Lakers! Welcome to the cushion smile how long have you had your Grunds?

parno Sun 14-Apr-13 10:06:42

Hello all. New to this thread as we picked up our 4yr old (approx) rough coated lurcher from the RSPCA yesterday. Seemed quite settled last night - no whining, barking when we went to bed but I awoke this morning to 3 piles of poo in the room where he was supposed to be sleeping. I have decided not to crate him as the crate would be massive and we don't really have the space.

I know it's really early days but should I close the door of the room that he is supposed to be sleeping in rather than letting him have the run of the house downstairs at night?

I fed him at half 4 and let him out a couple of times (just a wee and lots of praise) before we went to bed at 12.

He has a lovely nature and we are just getting to know each other. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. I suspect I will be on here quite a lot!

MagratGarlik Sun 14-Apr-13 11:30:16

Welcome, parno.

No advise on house training, I'm afraid. Our lurcher won't wee in the garden because she seems to think that's only for whippy. She occasionally wee's by the front door instead...

Aside from taking her out more regularly we haven't really found a solution.

I love the look of the wire-haired lurchers though.

MrSlant Sun 14-Apr-13 11:31:46

Welcome to the cushion parno smile

I would say if you see him sniffing around or starting to squat get him outside ASAP and give him lots of opportunities to get it right and massively praise him when he does. Don't make a fuss of the mistakes as he won't have a clue in the morning if you are cross about something he did in the night! I would recommend a crate though, even if you borrow one for a short time, they don't seem to like messing up their 'space' so will make an effort to hold on, if no crate then at least keep him to one room for now. It shouldn't take long to sort out though, just stick to one way of doing things and he will get there quickly. Congratulations on your lovely new dog, I love a scruffy lurcher, any chance of a picture?

parno Sun 14-Apr-13 12:06:12

Need some techno help. I have put some photo's in my MN gallery but not sure how you get to them.

MrSlant Sun 14-Apr-13 12:11:19

Umm, I think you have to go to privacy settings? Not sure as I don't have a profile. I'll go and have a look.

MrSlant Sun 14-Apr-13 12:13:41

If you go to mumsnet on the blue bar there is a purple dropdown for privacy settings and after you put your password in again if you scroll to the bottom of that page you can change your privacy to let people see. Is that what you are looking for?

TheCunnyFunt Sun 14-Apr-13 21:05:01

Welcome Parno smile awww I love scruffy lurchers! Have no advice on toilet training I'm afraid, my Sprocket was already housetrained when we got him.

mistlethrush Mon 15-Apr-13 08:32:39

Parno - we managed to housetrain our 2 yo (ish) scruffy lurcher last autumn... not an ideal time as fireworks were going off outside that really didn't make excursions outside easy!

Ours thought 'inside' was where you did things - rather than just doing things inside or outside, so the first afternoon we brought her home she managed to hold on (to everything) for 4.5 hrs, being taken out round the block and in the garden every 30mins, then did everything on the hall mat. We ended up with her in our room as she didn't settle anywhere else, and I woke up every time she got up and if she went out of the room I took her out. We had a lunge rein that I used in the garden so that a) I could keep an eye on what she was doing and b) she didn't simply go off on a good sniff and hunt in the garden. Every time we went out I encouraged her, using specific phrases, and praised when that happened outside. When inside you have to watch like a hawk - ours would go out of the sitting room and aim for a patch in the hall and if you caught her before the 1st circle was padded, you could get her out without an accident. Now, as long as you know the signs, you can tell when she needs to go out - she walks to the back door and back, and perks up when you ask her if she wants to go down the garden.

He might, of course, be just used to being in a kennel, and onc