Puppy died today because nobody wanted her. Please adopt a dog don't buy pups

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dibsmum Sat 05-Jan-13 00:12:30

Just read about a pup that had to be put to sleep today. nobody wanted her and no space at the pound. Please consider adopting a dog rather than buying a puppy. This world doesn't have to be cruel to innocent dogs. We can all do our bit. Please help. sad

happynewmind Sat 05-Jan-13 00:16:41

Very sad, I have been quite depressed at the amount of free dogs on gumtree on new years day.

We desperately would love a dog and could commit time as I work from home and i have miles and miles of forest walks down side of our house but we have no garden and live In a flat. sad

dibsmum Sat 05-Jan-13 00:26:56

Some rescues are understanding about living in a flat, particularly if the other option for some poor soul is euthanasia. You sound like you would be a great dog owner! We had 2 big dogs in a flat but it was fine because they were out walking for at least 2 hours a day. If you have a shelter nearby please get in touch, maybe you could help foster short term until a dog that would otherwise be euthanized was homed? Gumtree free dogs usually go to bad homes too. often for fighting or other abuse. so tragic. sad

D0oinMeCleanin Sat 05-Jan-13 00:33:44

The rescue I work with will consider people who live in flats as long as you can show you are committed enough to take the dog out at regular intervals for potty breaks.

dibsmum Sat 05-Jan-13 00:39:19

sounds like your rescue have a great attitude smile

happynewmind Sat 05-Jan-13 00:48:36

Thankyou, up till recently my Grandad had my aunties dog for company and i used to take him for long walks daily he passed away and the dog has gone back to my aunts.

Growing up with dogs I really miss it sad

dibsmum Sat 05-Jan-13 00:58:25

Please do try to rescue a dog happy, you seem lovely, sounds like you and a rescue dog could make each other so happy grin

ZeldaUpNorth Sat 05-Jan-13 08:23:28

We're in the process of getting a dog and I went to local authority pound and it was horrible. Filthy and smelly. Unfortunately there was not a dog there which took my liking (mostly were staffys and grayhounds which I don't want) But also none of the dogs were adequately labled. None had approx ages/medical conditions (one dog looked blind but didn't say anything on his label) and the staff (2 of them) were busy with other customers so I couldn't ask. (I dont want a very old dog, as couldn't handle a death so soon) I don't think we would be accepted at a rehoming centre as I have a 3 and 4 year old, but now is (imo) the best time to get one as I'm a sahm for another year or 2, and after that I will be helping dp in his gardening business so the dog can come with.

dibsmum Sat 05-Jan-13 08:51:35

Please don't give up on your local pound Zelda, for the sake of another trip there you could save an innocent life and find your best friend. Please try again. I won't try to change your mind about breed but we have both a staffie and a lurcher with our 6 month old baby and they're so loving and gentle. Please rescue a dog.

ZeldaUpNorth Sat 05-Jan-13 09:02:19

I've heard that about staffys, but tbh I just don't like the look of them. I'm more of a spaniel/lab type of person-you know "furry" dogs. I'm not giving up on my pound, though it breaks my heart to leave them there sad but I need to get a dog that's right for my family so need to be patient.
Plus I have a cat so I need to know the dog will be ok with him, but pounds (obviously) don't know the dogs background. Ideally I want about a year old lab/spaniel but I know its wishful thinking.

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ZeldaUpNorth Sat 05-Jan-13 09:12:23

I don't think a rescue place would allow me to adopt due to 2 young children (3 and 4.5, who are fine with my nans dog-understand how to treat him) but tbh I haven't looked into it yet, might give the pound a while longer and see if anything comes up. There's no rush on my part, just want to make sure the dog is right for us and vice versa.

Waferthinmint Sat 05-Jan-13 09:15:00

I have tried to adopt on more than one occasion and always turned down because I work. End of.

I have however successfully owned and lived my puppy purchased dog for 10 years now and he is lovely.

Rescues need to be more open minded.

So to your comment about adopting. Not always possible

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dibsmum Sat 05-Jan-13 09:37:19

Zelda I'm so pleased you're going to persevere with the pound. You sound so nice, I hope you find the perfect dog. worth a Google of trailhound rescue if you're go for a breed specific rescue, a little known breed that are great for families. I do take on board all the comments about rescues, I know we are going to have problems if we decide to get another dog over the next few years. I think I will get in touch with a friend who is a local dog Warden to see if they can give me a dog that would otherwise be euthanized because we have a baby now so I doubt even the rescue I volunteer at would let me have a dog until she's much bigger.

Paddlinglikehell Sat 05-Jan-13 09:47:43

I wonder what area this was in?

We have just adopted a puppy from a rescue, one of a litter of 11.

To be honest, they could have homed double the amount, not saying they would all be good homes, but when I rang in the morning there were 11, when I arrived 20 mins. Later, there were 5 not reserved (waiting home check), by the time I walked over to the kennel block, only 2 were left.

I couldn't believe what a scrum it was and this is in what is known to be a poorer area in the country, with many people on the minimum wage.

I worked in rescue for some time myself and puppies were always the first to go, so much so that we wouldn't have them on view to the public, as they would automatically want one and disregard the other dogs.

Any rescue/pound that Pts puppies and then advertises the fact, is not good, far from enouraging people to adopt, it will out them off going, and thefore reduce their funds even more. Puppies to a rescue, are, at the end of a day, income.

The puppies in our litter, had been passed on from another smaller rescue, because they couldn't manage the number and regime them quickly, that is good practice. Decent rescues always take in puppies.

dibsmum Sat 05-Jan-13 09:54:10

It was an older puppy and a staffie. I assume it was from the Midlands where I'm from. There's Unfortunately a policy in many areas of putting staffies to sleep if they're not claimed rather than rehoming because there are so many of them in rescues. tragic sad

mrsjay Sat 05-Jan-13 13:16:52

poor puppy Iguess the rescue wasnt very reputable to put a little puppy down, the amount of staffies in rescue and pounds disgust me the breeders of these dogs should be regulated but of course they are not sad

the poster who said about a flat, we live in a flat dogs trust gave us a dog no problem they do homecheck but the lack of garden shouldn't be a problem ( we do have a garden though) but we dont leave him in it just to do his business

D0oinMeCleanin Sat 05-Jan-13 13:58:30

It will have been a pound. It is standard practice in many pounds to pts after the the 7 days. Some pounds pts all dogs after the 7 days, others pts dogs that will be 'hard to home' i.e Staffies, black dogs, old dogs, dogs with slight health or behaviour problems.

Rescues don't pts that soon, but some do 'cherry pick' the dogs they take in from pounds, so simply refuse to take in the harder to home dogs and leave it up to the pounds to decide what to do. Our taxes pay for this sad

D0oinMeCleanin Sat 05-Jan-13 14:05:36

Oh, ZeldaUpNorth, loads and loads of northern based rescues accept people with children. Save Our Strays, GRACE (who don't just have greyhounds and lurchers) are two I know for certain who do, but there are others.

Have a look at this Facebook group Just dive and start your own thread and we will soon have a list of dogs that would be suitable for you smile

higgle Sat 05-Jan-13 14:12:16

"Unfortunately a policy in many areas of putting staffies to sleep if they're not claimed rather than rehoming because there are so many of them in rescues. tragic "

Please think about older dogs if you want to rescue, we have just taken our second Staffie, aged 8, he is just perfect; house trained, friendly, walks well on lead, likes playing funny games and lots of cuddles. If you have any doubts just look on the Rescue Remedies site where you can see lots of pictures of dogs in foster joining in on family things. I defy anyone who looks at "Ada" not to fall in love.

higgle Sat 05-Jan-13 14:13:20

Forgot to say we work full time and just pop back at lunch time, Many Tears and Rescue Remedies found this acceptable for an older well behaved dog.

D0oinMeCleanin Sat 05-Jan-13 14:24:20

Yup, lots of rescues will consider people who work, if they have dogs in who wouldn't mind being left alone for longer times and if the adopters are willing to make a few changes, such as popping home at lunch or hiring a dog walker.

There are so many myths about what rescues "won't" do. All rescues have different policies. The smaller ones are generally more laid back because they have more time to spend with their dogs and potential adopters so can feel comfortable making matches that bigger, time strapped rescues cannot take the risk on.

ZeldaUpNorth Sat 05-Jan-13 14:46:16

I've done as you've suggested D0oin thank you. Do you have a link for GRACE? I cannot find it. Thanks. Can i ask what rescues usually look for in the home checks? Do they check every room of the house cos my bedroom is a tip and our garden is a bit of a state at the minute but planning on having it all cleared up in the spring.

D0oinMeCleanin Sat 05-Jan-13 14:53:04

My house is a tip, Tracy, from GRACE, does not care. When she did my homecheck, she had a cuppa in the front room, checked out where the dog would be sleeping (dining room) and made sure that the outside area was secure.


GRACE blog

D0oinMeCleanin Sat 05-Jan-13 15:02:28

GRACE are getting in a 15 month old black girl this week, who is coming to me to be cat tested but I think she is a whippety cross.

ZeldaUpNorth Sat 05-Jan-13 15:16:11

My oldest dd (9 next month) read Born to Run at school and has wanted a greyhound ever since, but i read they are programmed to chase small animals (like cats) so not sure whether to risk it. Her dreams wold come true if we got one lol.

D0oinMeCleanin Sat 05-Jan-13 15:22:16

They are bred to chase and are often trained to chase but they fail sometimes, this can be because they are not fast enough or it can be because they don't chase, for reasons known only to the dogs themselves grin.

I don't know this black girl's story yet, but I know she hasn't been worked, so she's not been trained to chase. It might still be an instinct she has, that will be my job to decide and to see if I can cat-train her or not, but she wouldn't be offered to a home with cats or children if I or Tracy, who runs GRACE decide she would be unsafe. The last thing anyone in rescue wants is a dog sent back with a black mark against their name because they've attacked a cat or bitten a child.

Around 20% of Greys can live happily with cats. Milly, the black girl coming to me will be the third pointy I have fostered for GRACE with my cat.

Shadow who is on their FB page has just left me to go to foster in Scotland, where there are less lurchers about so he might find a home quicker, he was actually scared of my cat grin

dibsmum Sat 05-Jan-13 15:27:48

I have a lurcher who chases cats but is petrified of my cat so yours may be different with his own cat. He caught her once, she kicked the crap out of him. He hasn't tried again. I caught the cat trying to murder him once, she had her paws round his neck trying to throttle him. He just cried.

NewYearNewNN Sat 05-Jan-13 15:33:25

Zelda have you tried this place?

dibsmum Sat 05-Jan-13 23:24:06

There are some great organisations helping under dogs. Happy staffie rescue is fab in the Midlands, also romanian underdogs and today I've read about lurcher link. I hope one day I will be able to help some of these organisations that do such a great job.

mrsjay Sun 06-Jan-13 10:46:29

my aunt and uncle have always had lurchers since i can remember they never chased and always just liked a seat grin they were lovely dogs,

higgle Sun 06-Jan-13 14:31:21

"Zelda have you tried this place"

They must be lovely people, half the dogs on their site are not black lab crosses at all, but lovely unfortunate dogs of other breeds they have taken pity on. Sally is just georgeous!

dibsmum Sun 06-Jan-13 15:08:07

hi higgle, not sure if it's just me but I can't see your link sad

higgle Sun 06-Jan-13 16:50:11

There wasn't one - but there you are isn't she a cutie?

dibsmum Sun 06-Jan-13 19:10:47

Sorry I misunderstood. and yes, gorgeous!

lotsofdogshere Mon 07-Jan-13 09:22:07

ZeldaupNorth, you could contact the Labradoodle Trust, they have a Facebook and website page. They re-home any poodle mix dog, including labradoodles, cockapoos, yorkipoos etc etc. One of the dogs I fostered was an 8 month old doodle with a lovely, gentle and biddable temperament. She was adopted by a family with children aged 4 and 6. The trust is careful about placing labradoodles with children under 6 because some of these dogs are huge,and whilst gentle can knock small children over due to exuberance. All the dogs they care for are fostered, so a proper assessment can be made about the dogs temperament etc to match with a family. Great to hear you are considering adoption, there are so many unwanted dogs out there

diddl Mon 07-Jan-13 09:27:38

We have a garden & dog rarely goes in it tbh.

He has never wee´d there!

He´s a rescue, lived outdoors until we took him on-aged 4

I think he just loves the security of being inside!

Even when we´re in the garden he rarely joins us.

Although by the time we´re in it it´s usually too warm for him!

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MrsDeVere Wed 09-Jan-13 18:14:28

I am DESPERATE for another dog.
Cant get one from Battersea or Wood Green or Mayhew because my youngest is two years old.

I am an experienced dog owner and ex veterinary nurse. Someone is home all the time.
We have garden which is dog proofed.

I want a non terrier, small cross breed. I really want a puppy but would home a young dog.

I have been looking for ages. I cannot bear to see one more photo of a 'designer cross' pictured next to a shoe or cup to show how tiny it is on gumtree or dog pages.

It make me insane!

I just want a little dog, is that too much to ask? sad

alwaysworking Wed 09-Jan-13 18:40:40

rescue wouldn't consider us as we have children, we work (even though dog would come with us), we were "out of area", the whole garden isn't dog proofed but we have a dog proofed area. the list went on and we lost patience and can see why they're full to bursting.

i now have a much-adored puppy and I'm afraid I don't regret our decision. Also a lot of dogs seem to be coming from Ireland and all over Europe which seems odd if we have too much of a rescue problem of our own.

D0oinMeCleanin Wed 09-Jan-13 18:46:03

Keep trying MrsDeVere.

I don't where you are in the country but lots of rescues home to people with children, honestly. It might not feel like it when you are turned down a lot by the bigger rescues but they do.

Try your local Dog's Trust or RSPCA branch and smaller, independent rescues Dog's Blog might have what you are looking for

it's shocking the number of unwanted animals being destroyed due to lack of homes sad

as long as there's byb's around, only interested in lining their pockets,& people buying from them (either through being unaware(hopefully the majority), not giving a shit so long as they get what they want,or doing it to save the dog/pup from a hellish situation (as i did, twice) i don't see it ending any time soon.

things need to change, massively sad

Just bumping sad

Would love a dog. Nasty landlord my mum wont let us though. Have a few years to work on her while the DSs get old enough for our local rescue to let us...

MrsDeVere Wed 09-Jan-13 19:47:52

I live in London so have the whole of London and the Home Counties to choose from!
I have a four year old x breed atm and we said goodbye to our 17 year old x terrier just before Christmas (our animals live for aaaagggeees bless him).

Terrier came from Battersea but my youngest at the time was about 8. We had to beg even then!

My little dog was from a private owner. The first dog I have ever bought and I agonised over it. We were lucky and the owner was genuine, dog is lovely but things have gone seriously downhill since then (with regards to little dogs) and I wouldn't risk it again.

The world has gone mad and the small breeds are being exploited in the most horrendous way.

It seems even worse for cross breeds now than it does for 'pedigrees'. It is insane.

I have to admit I much preferred having a puppy. After the first few weeks of house training and chewing, it seems much easier for them to fit in with the DCs than an older rescue. With older children this is probably not so much of an issue.

Anyway. Please all you doggie peeps, keep an eye out for a young, small, dog for me!

MrsDeVere Wed 09-Jan-13 20:14:23


I have just emailed about little Mada....

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MrsDeVere Wed 09-Jan-13 20:26:32

She does look sweet. It looks like she comes from abroad.
I have told them about the kids to save time. They can just tell me no straight away if they don't home with young children.

She is the same colour as my dog. I do feel it is important to coordinate pets don't you? wink

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QuietTiger Thu 10-Jan-13 14:10:34

MrsDeVere - it might be worth talking to Wiccaweys Here They are predominately collies, but also have a number of other little mutts, mongrels and pedigrees, all of whom are looking for a home. They also don't have blanket policies - they look at the home & support being offered before they say no. Young children are not an issue, nor is the age of adopter - my gran adopted a beautiful Border Terrier from them 8 weeks ago and she's 85 years old!

LadyTurmoil Thu 10-Jan-13 16:29:52

Have you looked at www.facebook.com/SE.Dog.Rescue?fref=ts (South East Dog Rescue) and www.facebook.com/WagtailsRescueEssex?fref=ts? These are FB links but they have websites too (although some aren't as up to date as FB pages). You could also try Oldies Club if you don't mind dog being a bit older... or there's always Many Tears. I know some on here don't like them much but they often have dogs fostered in London/Surrey areas I've noticed which would be near to you. Good luck smile

MrsDeVere Thu 10-Jan-13 17:20:26

I have liked both pages on FB. Thank you.

Still havent heard back about the little dog sad
I know they are busy so am trying to patient.

LadyTurmoil Thu 10-Jan-13 18:51:37
MrsDeVere Thu 10-Jan-13 22:43:17

They emailed me! Squeeeee!

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MrsDeVere Thu 10-Jan-13 23:20:24

They asked me if I had decided on little Mada and I said yes.
They are going to contact me about a homecheck.
Then they arrange transport and I pick her up. Luckily we are near to two of the pick up points.

I just showed OH and he seemed resigned (don't worry he was like this with the DCs as well grin)

I have already told them about the children and that one has SN. Outlined the exercise little DeVere Dog gets already.

Just so they know, to save time. I don't want to go through the hassle and them say 'we dont home to families with small children'.

So maybe......?

LadyTurmoil Thu 10-Jan-13 23:26:32

There's an Action Aid for Animals group on FB you could join as well. I joined and helped transport some donations before Christmas. The people involved seem really committed and with a good sense of humour. Hope it works out for you. smile

MrsDeVere Thu 10-Jan-13 23:32:16

Thank you.
I think I have joined. I have been joining so many rescue pages lately I have lost count!

They seem to move quite quickly. I hope to know more soon.

LadyTurmoil Thu 10-Jan-13 23:49:44

Mrs they've put up a notification that Mada is adopted on ActionAA group - hope it's you!

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OwlLady Fri 11-Jan-13 10:39:43

All of my previous rescue dogs would have been PTS. My older dog was an unclaimed stray that was rescued and ended up with us. The second one was a farm pup that was rescued by another farmer as she was going to be shot as she was no good sad and the third was rescued from a pound too but rescued by the organisation quiettiger has linked to. It makes me so sad sad

why aren't breeders or everyone actually, forced to microchip? maybe I am being simplistic but surely then everyone can be held accountable for their animals

MagratGarlik Fri 11-Jan-13 12:35:06

We have two rescue dogs and adopted the first when ds2 was just 2 and the second when he was 3. Both are from large, national rescues. We also both work, but dp can leave later in the morning, walking the dogs before he goes, then a dog walker comes at lunch and walks them again and my mum brings the ds's to our house after school at 3pm, so they don't go longer than 2 hours without having someone around.

I think many rescues will rehome to homes with children, but obviously will not rehome just any dog to a hone with children, only ones they consider have a suitable temperament. This is also an advantage of a rescue over a pound, they will assess the dogs and point you in the direction of a one with a suitable temperament for you. They will also provide back up and support after adoption which can be invaluable.

MrsDeVere Fri 11-Jan-13 15:13:21

Have they? oooo.
The email said they would do that pending a home check.
So i suppose I have to wait for them to call to arrange. Would be just as I have a busy week coming up! Eeek.

They will have trouble getting us all in at the same time so I hope they won't mind. OH works evenings so unless they come at 4pm and only stay for half an hour they will never catch us all here.

Probably best if they come when DS2 is at school. He will need careful prep for a new dog, specially a I am hoping she will be 'his' dog. I will be doing all the proper stuff but I want to encourage a special relationship with DS2 if possible.


I hope we pass the home study.

MrsDeVere Fri 11-Jan-13 16:58:16

lady where did you see the notification? I cant see it on FB or dogs.blog .

LadyTurmoil Fri 11-Jan-13 17:27:31

www.facebook.com/groups/actionaidforanimals/ On this group, if you scroll down to yesterday evening, you'll find it...

MrsDeVere Fri 11-Jan-13 21:12:27

Thanks lady. I have found it.
I am a bit uneasy now though. There is an awful lot of bickering going on. Do you know much about this rescue?

Some of the stuff I am reading is not sitting well with me.

I do understand that these things can happen on FB and there are always internal politics but I do not want to get involved in anything dodgy.

I will keep an eye on it and will have a proper chat with the rehomer and I have the dog's carer's email too.

fingers crossed.

LadyTurmoil Sun 13-Jan-13 19:32:32

I think the bickering was about a dog that had been adopted and then died afterwards but seemed from the thread that the adopter had done all she could (visits to vet etc) and it was the rescuer in Romania that needed reassurance that the dog had gone to a good home, although it wasn't the outcome that was wanted obviously. But, of course, you've got to be happy with the whole process. I know that they also have a separate group for "Rommy adopters" so you might want to join that and see how people there have done with their dogs...good luck anyway smile

MrsDeVere Sun 13-Jan-13 22:31:51

Thank you.
I am still waiting for my call.
Its all very exciting.

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