dog peeing!

[Kristy99]

Staffordshire bull terrier, approx two yes old, rescue, had her since March, well trained and house trained.
She's suddenly started peeing in the house. Carpet reeks! It's sodden! I've used bi-carb, white vinegar, carpet cleaner, electric carpet cleaner, the lot, can't shift it!
Besides that, we've had her to the vet with a urine sample, all good, no infection, prescribed antibiotics just in case. Nothing has changed.
3 times in the night I had to get up to let her out the other night.
I'm lifting her water after her evening walk about 7ish and she goes out in the garden a couple of times before bed too.
I'm just not getting what's wrong? Nothing has changed by way of her routine for her to suddenly start doing this.
Any tips?

[Wolfiefan]

Spayed?
New neighbour?
Hates rain?

[Kristy99]

Not spayed, would it help if she was?
No new neighbours.
She seems to spend long enough in the garden when I let her out so I don't think it's that.
Is it just because she's done it once in the same spot she just returns to it and does it again do you think?

[Wolfiefan]

You can get special cleaning stuff that removes all trace of wee. Can you prevent her getting to the spot she's weeing in?
Re spaying I wondered if it was related to season (I'm no expert) or if she had just been spayed and the weeing was caused by damage or stress.)
I would want to get a bitch spayed though.

[Kristy99]

Yes we are defo working towards getting her spayed anyway.
Do you know what the cleaning stuff is called by any chance, I'll try that.
Currently using puppy pads and hoping to drag them gradually to the back door!

[villainousbroodmare]

I think she has possibly just discovered the convenience of peeing indoors.
I would:
block her access to her chosen indoor peeing spot while continuing to clean it in every way possible. If you can still smell if, she can smell it from a mile off.
Go out with her, on a lead, as if she was a puppy, no interaction, go to your chosen peeing spot, stop, ignore her, if she squats and pees then huge congratulations, treats, if not, come back in and go out again in an hour.
But you say you had to go out three times in the night... did she ask to go out? Is she peeing more than normal then? Is she drinking more than normal? Is there water outside that she could be drinking? There are more things that could be wrong than a simple urinary tract infection...

[villainousbroodmare]

Oh, and forget about the puppy pads, that's teaching her to piss indoors.

[Kristy99]

I know about the puppy pads but it's like the last thing I can think to try.
She literally cried to go out at night, waking us up.
Vet checked her over, said all was good, dipped the wee, all fine, £57 quid later!
Tried the praise thing, still ongoing, defo peeing more than normal, not really drinking more.
I could understand if there had been a change in routine or something had happened but nothing.
All I can think of is that it's winter, doors are closed, usually leave the back door open in summer and she just plays out etc at her free will.
Gonna block her pee place off tomos, just hope she doesn't find a new patch!

[villainousbroodmare]

If she's crying to go out in the night, I suspect that there still must be a health issue. Especially if she was well trained before. Then you need to let her out whenever she asks; she can't help it.
Do then use the puppy pads, better than having her in distress. At least you can put them on tiles instead of her using a carpeted area.
Try to measure her water intake. This would necessitate preventing access to any outside water. If it's in excess of 100ml/kg that's generally considered abnormal. Do you recall her weight from when she was at the vets? Probably about 12-15kg?
Do you notice anything else unusual about her? Is she on any medication? (some medications like prednisolone for itching or phenobarb for epilepsy cause excess urination and thirst). When was she last in season? (though she'd be v young for a pyometra, that's a uterine infection that can cause peeing/drinking signs.)
The vet's next step would probably be to look at another urine sample and maybe run a blood sample, if it seems to be more of a medical than a behavioural thing.
If funds are tight, and considering you were just there last week, you should probably get a reduced consult fee. You might even get away with this: if you suspect that things are not quite right, bring in another fresh urine sample collected by you in a perfectly clean container - the more pee the better but a few tsp would be enough - and ask them to have a look at it again.

[Kristy99]

Weight is about 13kg, nothing unusual (daft as brush!) happy, playful, excitable. No medication.
She's actually peed twice the last couple of days whilst we've been sat there without even crying to go out!
I'm putting it down to her being pure lazy now. The first time she's only been in 10/15 minutes!
I'll keep on with the treats.

Carpet stinks! Any ideas with the spray that removes the smell?! Bicarbonate of soda isn't touching it

[ChairRider4]

Think it's called simple solution can get from pets at home or Amazon what used when my boy was younger

[Purplepixiedust]

I have found using bio washing liquid cleans pee pretty well. Blocking the favoured area off is a good idea too. It does sound as though there is something medical going on bless her.