It's actually making me depressed, it's effecting my other dog and effecting my relationship with dh ( oh and probably my social life ).
We have had him for almost 2 years, he is a lab x ( possibly collie ). He Cries all day, I get up, he cries for food, I feed him and he cries until he gets walked, I walk him for an hour, he sleeps for 5 minutes and then he cries, a hour before his dinner he cries and then the crying for his 2nd walk, he finally sleeps at 10pm and then awake by 6am. If anyone visits the house he barks constantly and jumps up ( not aggressive, just wants attention ), I remove him from the room and he barks louder and destroys the door/gate. No one will visit us or bring children in the house. My other dog is a wreck because when I raise my voice at the lab x is scares her, the only thing he listens to is me shouting ( and that's hit and miss ), we have tried clicker training, rewarding the good behaviour, ignoring the crying, shutting him outside ( removing him from the room ) but he gets worse.
My husband has had enough, the kids have had enough ( dd2 has ASD and the barking really hurts her ears ), the only thing that would keep him quite was to be walked all day. I know he is a working breed and needs to have a job to do but when I got him from the rescue I was told he would be a small dog ( he is not huge ) and I thought 2 walks a day would be enough ( plus we play ball ), he has puzzle toys, balls, bones and my other dog to keep him entertained but he will not play without me, won't go in the garden to play ( we have a large garden ).
No one will visit us for Christmas because of the dog. He has a crate which we no longer use as this seemed to make him worse. I feel so sorry for my other dog, she is so laid back and I can tell she is really annoyed with the other dog leaping around all the time and crying.
I can't afford to get a behaviour specialist in.
I have posted here so many times and I feel I have tried everything people have suggested.
He does have a few good points, he is very loving, he is great with other dogs, great off the lead ( good recall ), in a way he would be much happier living on a farm or being worked.
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My dog is a nightmare, tearing my hair out and feel we have tried everything.
marne2 · 03/12/2014 11:03
I've walked him twice as far today and instead of helping him find his ball in the long grass I made him sniff it out ( took a while but meant he was using his brain more ), my other dog gave me 'the look ' when I dragged her around the field for the 2nd time. The dark evenings are not helping as I can't take him out late which is probably why he's still hyper at 9pm. I try and hide his food around the garden or feed him with his kong wobbler in hope to work him a bit more. It's just so frustrating, he never plods around, he bounces and runs knocking the kids over 
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Tbh I would happily rehome him to the right home, I don't want him going back to the rescue as they are not that great, they would just rehome him anywhere and he really needs to be on a farm. We did have someone who knew a lady who may of took him ( on a farm ) but it would depend how he gets on with chickens, I may look into that again. I'm sure the rescue would be fine if we found him a home as long as do checks and pass on details to the rescue. I do love him but I often feel I can't give him what he needs .
If I were you I would rehome him. You sound exhausted and you have done all you can.
Don't feel guilty about it, it sounds as if it will be a huge burden lifted on you and your family, just try to do everything you can to help with the re homing process if possible so that you know he has gone to the best possible place for him and will be well looked after.
Marne I remember your other posts.
Just to clarify a few things but I do understand how difficult it is to live with a dog that is demanding.
Do not throw the ball for your dog ever. Do not increase his exercise to compensate. He does need a good off lead run but an hour twice a day is fine.
What he does need is mental stimulation - so on the walk , put him in a wait you may need to tie him to a tree to start with, let him see you hide the ball - let him find it, Make this harder and harder - do it three or four times that is enough.
Can you get him to run around a tree using the ball in you hand as a lure - again do this once or twice do it to the left and right.
This is being done in the hour walk.
Collies actually do not need loads of exercise but they do need things to do so you can very easily overstimulate them and get loon dogs - collies can do loondogs very well!
Does he do down, sit and stand? Have the ball in your hand go to throw it and say away - he should run away then ask him to go down, then sit etc after a couple of calm commands throw him the ball to catch.
Don't worry about your other dog - they will be able to chill out and not be at all worried by your other dogs behaviour - if you are still chilled with the dog. Do they have a place they can go to get away from loondog
What do you do when he cries?
If you want to pm me where you are roughly I may have people who could come and give you an assessment foc just to see the situation in real life.
Some farm dogs have a horrendous life and tbh not many farmers want a labcross Collies can have days on the farm where they do nothing - they are not required and learn to just chill.
If you do decide to rehome again as I may be able to help.
Thank you Mutty, I will try tying him to a tree and hiding his ball. He is walked for an hour at a time, we are limited to places where I can take him, he's walked for 10 minutes on the lead and then the rest if off lead through fields, as soon as I let him off he goes crazy, runs around in circles but will come when I call him, when we get to the end of the walk he will sit, drop his ball and wait for me to put his lead on, he walks nicely home ( not so good on the way ). He knows sit, lie down, down, bed etc... But sometimes he struggles to sit for very long as he is hyper. Sometimes the more I ask him to do things the more excited and jumpy he gets. If I use treats as a reward he seems to get even more hyper though he will follow commands in between crying and leaping aroun
We live in the middle of nowhere, I can't get him to training classes which are at least 20 miles away, I only have a tiny car and he doesn't travel well, I don't feel safe driving with him as he yelps and cries continuously.
I don't like having to use the tennis ball to amuse him as I agree it's just going to make him more fit and demanding but today I was so fed up with the situation and I just wanted to tire him out so I could get on and do some jobs. It did settle him down for a while so now I feel slightly more sane.
We tried ignoring the crying for so long but it went on for days, this meant I could not walk him or feed him as I would be giving in to him
My other dog sits and shakes near dinner time as she knows loonie dog is going to cry, bark and I'm going to get stressed.
He does sound like hard work.
Dont worry about using the ball to give you a break - that sounds just the way survive. You often find with dogs that their behaviour will get worse before getting better as they try hard to get back the old ways. So you will need to be prepared to make a commitment for a few months to see a big difference. Only you know if you can cope with this.
Re the crying does he pause - for a milli second? I would reward that - many collies just love a kind word and a pat - calming but also attention.
So if you want to go for a walk ask him to go down, if he is quiet for a millisecond reward - the aim being to make this a longer period. It will take time.
I would teach a settle command. When he is lying down and being undemanding - reward quietly and calmly maybe a bit of boring kibble or a slow stroke and quiet good boy.
I would also work on the crate - let him in the crate and reward with food - yep he will go crazy gradually ask for a down in the crate and then reward when still build this up again for a longer duration until he can be quite still in the crate - do not lock him in it just encourage it to be an area for chilling.
A good book is Control Unleashed by Leslie McDevitt - it is devised for agility dogs but there are exercises in it that will work. If a dog can be calm at agility then they can be calm in the house 
Wish I could help- I am itching to sort out your dog
Have pm'd you Mutty.
He doesn't really pause, if he does I try and reward him but even a simple 'good boy' said quietly makes him start jumping around and then he tries to kiss me to death 
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On the rare occasion that he is calm he is a lovely dog, my daughter will cuddle up with him, he has even been known to wear the girls pj's ( he likes being dressed up ) , he's never shown any signs of aggression. My daughter has even accidentally trod on him and sat on him and he doesn't bat an eye lid, I just wish I could slow him down a little bit ( a walk rather than a bounce or run whilst In the house ) and stop the crying.
Boob, he won't fit in my car , I have no idea how I'm going to get him to the vets 5 miles away let alone 20 miles. I managed to get him in dh's car when he went for castration and he was licking my face all the way to the vets ( can't fit a crate in dh's car either ). I wouldn't be able to get child care to take him to classes anyway, I have 2 dd's with sn's and dh often works late.
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Thank you, I don't feed him with a bowl, i scatter it around the garden or in his kong wobbler ( he eats too fast out of a bowl ), I use some of his food for rewards but often this makes him more hyper.
I have done some of the things you mentioned above but maybe I havn't stuck to it for long enough? I have been trying to get him to sit still before his walk for weeks, I won't put a lead on him until he's sat still, if he starts to move I take it off and start again until he is still, he then tries to drag me out the door leaping around, I bring him back in and we start again, this can take up to half an hour but it still doesn't seem to register, we still have to go through it every day .
We tried the 'walking backwards' approach too whilst walking, one day it took a hour to get a few metres, eventually he walks a little better, I reward him and then next time we are back to the same , we did this for months with little improvement ( and it meant walking the dogs separately which took up so much time ).
He is very intelligent ,this used to be a bonus, he was easy to train as a pup but now he uses it to his advantage and he has forgot everything I taught him as a pup.
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