Soft coated wheaten terrier puppy cost?

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ggirl Mon 31-Mar-14 12:04:07

I have emailed a breeder about seeing an adult dog , no answer yet but does anyone know how much puppies are before I get excited?

1MitchellMum Mon 31-Mar-14 12:08:44

Not sure. Though I know someone who bought one cheap from a suspected puppy farm (someone who should have known better). But the cost of a puppy is a mere fraction of the cost of 'running' the dog!

ggirl Mon 31-Mar-14 12:10:26

I have had a dog before and am aware of the costs

moosemama Mon 31-Mar-14 12:45:36

The best way to get a SCWT pup is to go via the breed club. When we got our girl they used to have a club puppy list that you were added to, then they matched you up to breeder/litters that met your specific requirements and notifed you when there are litters available.

We had to wait 18 months for our girl because we wanted an undocked bitch and iirc, they were the only undocked litter in the UK that year (mid 90's).

I can't see that service on their website, so they may not do it anymore, but they do have area reps who can advise you on all aspects of owning a Wheaten, including cost. Details here.

I paid £950 feb last year that was ave

moosemama Mon 31-Mar-14 13:18:57

That's around what I would expect based on how much we paid getting on for 20 years ago now. I'd be highly suspicious of any that are cheaper.

Also I did it all through the wheaten club too. I wouldn't dream of doing it any other way as members adore the breed and are extremely protective of it. Before being accepted on the list I met with the area rep and also went to a club show which was where I met the breeder and then waited 5 months to get my hands on my ewok!

ggirl Mon 31-Mar-14 14:59:19

thank you !!!
I had looked on the wheaten website but somehow missed the link to area reps ?!

I emailed kennel club breeder that is sort of near me but they haven't emailed me back ..so I'll go though the wheaten site , thanks again.

I thought they would be about that price .

I've read there is three different coat types but can't find any more info than that?

We've had beardies before so I am familiar with their grooming needs and I'm assuming wheatens are similar?

We looked into Wheatens and the breed assoc sent me a leaflet which explained coat types etc, if I remember rightly.

They come across as one of the most realistic and responsible, to the point of being offputting, breed assocs.

moosemama Mon 31-Mar-14 15:04:21

There were only two coat types when I had my girl. The fluffy annoyingly tangly British/Amercian coat and the curly, sleeker Irish coat.

British coat is soft, but very dry and prone to tangles, Irish coat is greasier, but lower maintenance.

My girl had a British coat and I think if I ever had another I'd go for an Irish coat next time, as the grooming was a full time job, particularly when she was in transition from pup to adult coat.

ggirl Mon 31-Mar-14 15:14:16

is the irish coat similar to airedale's coat but longer?

ggirl Mon 31-Mar-14 15:14:47

british coat sounds similar to a beardies

About £975 I think, according to a friend who got a puppy last year. Lovely dog!

ggirl Mon 31-Mar-14 15:20:32

aww nice to hear it's a lovely dog smile

runningonwillpower Mon 31-Mar-14 15:28:52

We have a Wheaten. And she has been the perfect member of our family. She's funny, she's vocal - oh so vocal- she's gentle, she's quirky, and she's been a perfect addition to our family. We love her.

She's an old girl now and we're looking after her in her declining years.

But truth told, don't take on a Wheaten without knowing they are high maintenance. Because their coats aren't typical of a lot of dogs' coats. Their coats are more like hair - they don't have that double coat thing like most dogs. So they don't cast and they don't smell doggy. But they do absorb muck like a sponge - don't have a Wheatie if you can't stand muck.

Choose the dog that suits your lifestyle.

But if your lifestyle suits a bit of muck and effort? The Wheatie is the way to go.

We have never - not once - regretted bringing our Wheatie into our lives. She is the best.

ggirl Mon 31-Mar-14 15:47:57

that's nice to hear thanks..she sounds lovely

I've heard they're quite hard to train ..is that true of yours?

moosemama Mon 31-Mar-14 16:08:34

There's some stuff about coat types here. I've never seen an Irish coated pup, but have met a few adults - over in Ireland actually and they feel soft and silky and have a bit of a sheen. I'm told their coats can be quite harsh as pups, but develop in the soft ringlets they have when they're older. My girl's coat changed a lot when she was spayed and became quite cottony, which was really annoying and much harder to groom.

I was actually at college to do canine studies with a woman that had several beardies and we did notice a similarity in their coat and the tools we both used to groom them. I bought a copy of the breed club's video on grooming and trimming (it was a video rather than a CD because I am that old) and taught myself to do her coat rather than paying a groomer. I loved it doing it though. When she was elderly I kept her trimmed short, as she never really enjoyed having her coat done and it seemed kinder not to stress her out with it.

runningonwillpower, is right about them being muck magnets, their coats suck up mud and dirty water and they do get cold when it's wet out, as they don't have an undercoat to protect them.

I have a great photo somewhere of dh holding our girl at arms length because she was literally dripping with mucky water after a particularly memorable walk when we got caught in a thunder storm while walking in a forest. She looked like a swamp thing! grin Our girlie hated getting wet or dirty though, so it wasn't too much of an issue. I do think she was unusual in that respect though, as the ones we've met out and about have been more than happy to wallow in every muddy puddle. grin

Odd that your girl is vocal, running, our girl never barked. I think I can only recall two occasions when she ever barked, one was telling off our upstart of a puppy when she really overstepped he mark and the other was when the same pup escaped from our garden. She was the quiet matriarch of our household and despite being the smallest, ruled the roost over both our other dogs without ever raising her voice. smile

They are clever and easily bored. My girl had passed her gold good citizen award by the time she was 1 and loved heelwork-to-music, agility and obedience (she was a real show-off grin). She thrived on training and would badger me to train her rather than free-run when we were out on walks by constantly throwing fancy heelwork and heelwork-to-music moves at me. grin

It's important to remember that they are terriers though and - some more than others - retain the terrier traits. Like running's girl, my girl had the sweetest natures and was extremely gentle and patient, but I know others that are pretty full on terriorists.

As running said, if you aren't scared off by a lot of grooming and plenty of muck - which you probably won't be having had beardies before, then the SCWT could well be the dog for you. smile

runningonwillpower Mon 31-Mar-14 16:26:17

Oh, you've put me on the spot.

Hard to train? Yes and no. I'm not sure that we tried that hard with the training. So when she disregards us, is that the breed or a failure on our part?

Also, I'm not sure our Wheatie is typical of the breed. She's really timid. I'm told the breed is bold. So, she will totally disregard us if she's chasing a squirrel. But she never goes out of sight of us unless a squirrel lures her on. If you see what I mean.

moosemama Mon 31-Mar-14 16:35:47

I think the hard to train thing comes out of the terrier stubbornness/independence. We used clicker training and it's certainly true that it was never worth locking horns with her, she had to believe things were either her idea or worth the effort - so creative thinking was sometimes required when it came to training. grin I do think it also helped that we started her training very young, as then it was all just a game.

Recall training was definitely hard work, as she wanted to say hello to every single person in the park and we had similar issues with loner stays, as she'd rather get up and go and flirt with all the other owners than lie down quietly and be ignored.

She was never all that fussed with other dogs, although friendly if they approached her, but couldn't walk past a human being without being suitably adored. I think 'diva' would probably be a good description of her, as she loved to show off her training and thought every single person she met should tell her how beautiful she was. She never could understand people that weren't interested in her. hmm grin

runningonwillpower Mon 31-Mar-14 17:36:46

Moosemama - re. the vocal thing. When we first visited our breeder, all her dogs did 'the voice'. I've since found out it may be an inherited thing; the pups get it from the dam.

But it is so distinctive and so interesting. Our girl has a bark; she barks atthings. Things like squirrels or the postman.

But she has a talking voice too. Think spotty dog in the wooden tops. It's a bit like that. And her talking voice isn't at things, like the old enemy the squirrel, it's to you. She looks right at you and gives you her whoopy spotty dog voice. It's not a bark, it sounds quite different. No question, she's saying something.

And she only does it when she's happy. Sad thing is, she's stopped since she got really old. She hasn't barked or whooped for a while. We really miss it.

moosemama Mon 31-Mar-14 21:53:27

Ah, that would make sense. Our breeder told us her bitch was unusual for the breed, because she was quiet, my girl certainly seemed to inherit that trait from her.

My lurcher pup has a talking voice that has to be heard to be believed. I'm told it's common among Salukis and their crosses. He has a wide range of noises for different things - everything from a clear teenage style 'it's so unfair' to something akin to a screaming seagull if he thinks he's missing out on something. hmm He reminds me of those old public safety films for child safety with Charlie the cat in. Something like this.grin

It's funny what you miss as they age isn't it? My girl used to grab the back of dh's trouser leg if he went near her food bowl. Never did it to anyone else and wasn't a food guarder generally, but she seemed to fixate on him and develop it as a habit, as she did it to him the first time we fed her after bringing him home (she was from a litter of 10, so lots of competition for the puppy food). When she became old and frail she stopped doing it and I remember dh saying he never thought it was something he would miss. sad

moosemama Mon 31-Mar-14 21:54:30

Oo, how did that happen, I didn't insert it as a video - it just appeared. confused blush

ggirl Mon 31-Mar-14 22:48:29

oh your saluki is gorgeous and so funny talking like that!

Thanks for all the info it's lovely to hear about your wheatens. I really enjoyed training and took our last beardie to agility but she wasn't keen on it . The spontaneous heel work sounds hilarious!!

moosemama Tue 01-Apr-14 09:28:45

No, that's not my boy. grin Mines a Lurcher - Saluki cross. That was just a video I found of a dog talking like he does. There are some picture of my boy on my profile - he's nowhere near as regal looking as the Saluki in the video - he's a proper scruffy Lurcher. grin

My wheaten is pretty similar to moosemama's but I'm not quite out the stroppy teenager phase yet. As you can see she's in her puppy to adult coat transition I believe it takes 2 years and she's 15months.

I love her and wouldn't change her for the world, but she's made me realise there's such a thing as too friendly I find myself constantly apologising for her wanting to "wheaten greetin" every man woman or beast that passes her by especially as the general public think she's a big dog which she isn't but small dogs are so hugely popular around here, it makes her appear to be

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