reporting neighbours dog to the warden, wwyd?

(39 Posts)
bamboobutton Fri 10-Jan-14 21:29:55

We've been in our new house for just over a month and have had 4 incidences with their dog:

1) dog barged its way in to our garden through the gate as we were returning home, scaring 3yo dd. I order the dog out just as neighbour turns up.

2) dog tries to barge its way in through our front door, kids are screaming this time, neighbour just keeps on yakking to her friend while i am leg blocking the dog, cant close the door on as he will get in as i try to nip in. Neighbour comes and grabs dog, doesn't say a word.

3) dog comes running up to kids outside our house, kids screaming again, neighbour does the 'shes a big old softy' routine. I herd kids inside.

this one has really pissed me off 4). We are walking back from school, we just turn into the large shared driveway, dog starts running at us, barking its head off over about a 40ft distance, again i block the dog, kids are screaming in terror, neighbour calls dog away without a word to me.

we have fallen out with our neighbour already over parking and the word about the estate is that she is a right nasty cow so i am not keen to go to her door and complain.

would you report the dog? I'm 99% sure i will report it as im sick of the fucking thing scaring my kids, its taken years to get ds over his dog fear and this bloody dog has undone it all, id just like some other opinions before i add the last 1%.

its a golden retriever if that's relevant.

bamboobutton Sat 11-Jan-14 17:26:35

Mrrected, i love dogs, im very pro dog, i hate all the anti dog threads as the idiocy on them makes my blood boil. How can you tell from my typing what the dog was like? I'm typing on a phone so im not going to go into infinitesimal detail.

this isnt a dog bounding over for a fuss, it clocked us and started running over bsrking its head off. I know enough about dog body language to know this dog was in 'protect my master' mode. Im not usually scared of dogs but i was worried this time as it ignored my 'no' and 'sit' commands and kept coming, i had to block it from the kids until the owner showed up to call it off.
also my like or dislike of the neighbour has no bearing on it, 2 of the incidences happened before we fell out, its a case of not liking a badly supervised dog.
in not going to go over and talk to her, when dh went over last time the dog was barking so much he couldn't hear himself think and the dog was ignoring the owner telling it to shut up.

finally, i have plenty of knowledge about staffies and experience of dogs, im not some dimwit who thinks "awww, ain't that dog cute, lets get one" without thinking it through. I have reasearched and researched the breed, which is why i am waiting for a few years before i get one and im not getting one until im sure the kids are ready either. Ive waited 10years to get a dog, a few more wont matter.

will still be calling the warden on Monday and will see what they say.

thanks to all the helpful posters and <parp> to all the nitpickers who added nothing helpful at all.

Dogs like that are hugely annoying. Probably not dangerous, but very annoying and can reduce your quality of life, which is unfair when it is not you who has chosen to own the dog or has any control over changing its behaviour. Its a bit like living next to noisy neighbors who don't care a jot that you have a light sleeping baby/ have to be up at 6am for work, rather than dangerous, but still - why should you have to train your children to cope better with somebody else's dog who comes onto your property?

The fact the dog leaves the shared drive and goes into your (private?) garden and tries to get into your house would probably be something you could report to the community police. It would be better to try to talk in a friendly way to your neighbor, but of course not everyone is approachable esp. when you have history.

It sounds more like a general neighbor dispute in which the dog is only one factor, although the most intrusive one. You have my sympathy though. We have a dog that barks and jumps up and we keep her on a lead at all times except when on our private, fenced, driveway and garden - nobody should have to put up with our dog rushing up to them barking and jumping up with her muddy paws, even if they like dogs. She annoys me too tbh - we are working on her training but she's a rescue and though she's improved in some areas, in others some of her behaviour seems rather ingrained...

SirChenjin Sat 11-Jan-14 14:33:59

You don't believe me? I care not a jot. I know it happens, I'm really not looking to you for validation. As for the 'hysterical and on edge' claims - don't be silly.

everlong Sat 11-Jan-14 14:32:33

My ' not a chance ' was to 7/10 times it happening.

StripyPenguin Sat 11-Jan-14 14:31:00

Everlong I take your point, but there is no such thing as "not a chance" with any animal. I was unlucky though.

everlong Sat 11-Jan-14 14:29:57

It does not happen 7/10 times. Not a chance.

StripyPenguin Sat 11-Jan-14 14:28:18

Everlong it does happen, I was not at all scared of dogs yet was out on a walk and three dogs ran up at me barking and growling and one bit my arm.

everlong Sat 11-Jan-14 14:25:28

I'm also out two/three times a day walking on bridle paths, parks, woodland. I can't think of the last time a dog barked and leapt about at me in a way that might scare or annoy me. It just doesn't happen.

Maybe because I'm a dog person and not hysterical and on edge around dogs, maybe.

StripyPenguin Sat 11-Jan-14 14:19:36

1. Overview

It’s against the law to let a dog be dangerously out of control:

in a public place
in a private place where the dog isn’t allowed to be (eg a neighbour’s house or garden without permission)

The law applies to all dogs.
Out of control

Your dog is considered dangerously out of control if it:

injures someone
makes someone worried that it might injure them

from https://www.gov.uk/control-dog-public

your call OP!

SirChenjin Sat 11-Jan-14 14:15:04

they are called - not trained

SirChenjin Sat 11-Jan-14 14:14:16

Everlong - regularly, roughly 7/10 times we go out this will happen. We live in an area with a number of woodland trails which are used by cyclists, walkers, runners and dog owners. If we had a dog it would be a great place to walk them - but sadly not all of the dogs we encounter are well enough trained that they walk to heel or go to heel immediately they are trained.

We went on a family walk last weekend - on a 3 mile route it happened to us twice angry. A dog that wanders up to you, sniffs, wags its tail, carries on walking - no problem whatsoever. A bounding, leaping, barking dog who is obviously not being walked enough and has gone loopy because it's out of the house/poorly trained - fucking sick of them.

MrRected Sat 11-Jan-14 14:13:29

Firmly and calmly tell the dog. "Home!!! Now!!!". Repeat.

He's a GR - usually very clever. He'll learn quickly .

DameDeepRedBetty Sat 11-Jan-14 14:12:56

everlong do they have different sorts of dogs in your area? hmm I'm out dogwalking all day every day and will encounter jumper-uppers and barkers at least two or three times a day.

MrRected Sat 11-Jan-14 14:11:57

Oh op toughen up for gawds sake - from what I can tell from your posts the dog isn't actually threatening you or your kids - just bounding over. He sounds over enthusiastic but non threatening.

You are projecting your dislike of dogs onto your children - hence the screaming and overreacting at the sight of the dog.

I don't think this court would find this dog out of control. It sounds more over friendly & the neighbour sounds lax about letting it greet people. Irritating but not something that's a matter for the legal process. My son used to be terrified of dogs but I'm not sure that reporting dogs not doing anything other than being a bit bouncy was a solution.

I think you'd be mad to get a staffie tbh unless you're very experienced with dogs- they need knowledgable owners IMO (although their rarely problematic to kids/humans you do need to socialise them a lot to encourage them not to be dog reactive). Get something easier.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine Sat 11-Jan-14 14:07:35

It is very very rare that I've seen a dog ' bark and leap ' about

Every single time I go to the park I will be approached by someone's off lead dog. Some times they additionally jump or bark or growl.

Under control dogs should not approach people let alone be barked at or jumped at.

everlong Sat 11-Jan-14 14:02:53

Leaping and barking?

I'm a dog owner, have been for years, out every day walking.

It is very very rare that I've seen a dog ' bark and leap ' about.
How often are we talking?

SirChenjin Sat 11-Jan-14 13:58:47

I completely understand where you're coming from OP - I'm fucking sick and tired of dogs running up to us, barking and leaping about, when we're out a family walk while the owners of the mutts just walk on or tell us the dog is just being friendly. I don't care if it's being friendly - I don't want a dog barking and leaping around right in front of me, and I don't want a canine friend.

That being said, I think a polite word first of all is in order. Just explain that one of your DCs is frightened of dogs due to a bad past experience (she's not to know if that's the complete truth or not) and you wondered if she could make sure the dog doesn't go onto your garden or come into your house please? Smile smile smile all the time you're saying this...

If she still doesn't keep it under control then I would suggest calling your community police officer - and you can tell them that you've already had an informal word to no avail. Good luck smile

everlong Sat 11-Jan-14 13:55:58

Shoot a dog for barking? Lovely.

I think stopping your dc screaming might be an answer.

eurochick Sat 11-Jan-14 13:53:08

I really don't think the dog warden or PCSO are options - the dog is not being aggressive.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine Sat 11-Jan-14 13:51:42

1. Overview
It’s against the law to let a dog be dangerously out of control:

in a public place
in a private place where the dog isn’t allowed to be (eg a neighbour’s house or garden without permission)
The law applies to all dogs.

Some types of dogs are banned.

Out of control
Your dog is considered dangerously out of control if it:

injures someone
makes someone worried that it might injure them
A court could also decide that your dog is dangerously out of control if:

it injures someone’s animal
the owner of the animal thinks they could be injured if they tried to stop your dog attacking their animal

TheSumofUs Sat 11-Jan-14 13:48:10

You have to speak with her - it's the responsible thing to do - let her know that her dog however well meaning scares your children and could she please be extra careful to control the dog on the shared property - take over a box of biscuits and make nice with her - there is no downside to this option other than swallowing pride - if she says no or does not control the dog the you have recourse after that - but you have to take this step first - I can't imagine anyone ignoring a nicely put request

lilyaldrin Sat 11-Jan-14 13:45:11

Sounds like the owner is being a bit slow/lax at controlling the dog but also that you are making a massive fuss because you don't like the owner. I wouldn't report a neighbour's dog for coming near me outside my house tbh.

IDontDoIroning Sat 11-Jan-14 13:38:53

Ok your post of 10.16 did say

Quote - Dh is threatening to shoot the dog if it does it again but i would rather some authority figure have a word, as she seems to listen to them, telling her to supervise the dog properly.

And you want to get a staffie in a few years but your dc scream at this dog.

Okay then

ChoudeBruxelles Sat 11-Jan-14 13:36:47

I would talk to your neighbour but also try to stop your kids screaming in terror at dogs.

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