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Back from the dog shrink.

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VivaLeBeaver · 10/06/2013 12:37

DH will laugh when I tell him that we were actually sat on a leather couch for the consultation. Grin

Psychiatrist says that mad dog is fear aggressive. We're not to tell him off at all for snarling, biting, etc. We have to ignore him and remove ourselves from the situation. We should give mad dog some cheese every time we come into a room, out of a room, stand up, move, fart, etc. Well dh has to, not me as mad dog loves me now and its just dh he can't stand.

He has to wear a muzzle when we're out and about and isn't to be allowed in a room with dd's friends.

If dh wants to sit at the table and mad dog is under the table then dh has to throw some cheese to the other side of the room to get dog to move away so dh can sit down. I hope dh will work with this........I'm worried he's going to be of the "its my table, I'm going to sit down whenever I like without throwing bloody cheese for the dog" mood.

We were there 80 mins so at £165 that's more than £2 a minute!

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lougle · 10/06/2013 12:49

Viva, is the dog behaviourist also a dairy farmer? Shock The amount of cheese you're going to get through! I expect liver cake would be far cheaper.

Were you happy with the advice? I can understand your reservations about your DH, it's taking my DH some time to realise that dogs are more complicated than people often.

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VivaLeBeaver · 10/06/2013 13:35

I've not heard of liver cake? Am off to One Stop in a minute to get cheap cheese as dh keeps feeding Cathedral City to the dog.

I'm happy with the advice, she seems confident it will work. I'm thinking it'll only work if dh is on board. But I guess if DH wants to stop been growled at 24/7 he's going to have to get involved.

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VivaLeBeaver · 10/06/2013 13:36

I've just googled the cake, looks fab - will make some at the weekend.

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TheCunnyFunt · 10/06/2013 13:39

Beware, liver cake stinks like nothing you've ever smelt before. Is it a microwaPveable recipe you found?

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TheCunnyFunt · 10/06/2013 13:39

Beware, liver cake stinks like nothing you've ever smelt before. Is it a microwaPveable recipe you found?

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moogalicious · 10/06/2013 13:40

Viva we have also been to a dog shrink recently. My dog is fearful of strangers coming into the house, particularly men. So far, we have stuck to the advice to the letter and have seen really positive results.

Just wanted to tell you something postive as I know it's alot of money to fork out. And a lot of cheese to buy Grin.

Dog is also vet phobic, so we will be upping the ante to hotdogs...

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TheCunnyFunt · 10/06/2013 13:40

I don't know where the random P came from or why it posted twice.

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moogalicious · 10/06/2013 13:41

Not sure about using liver cake after my dog threw up tripe all over the carpet. Prefer less stinky options...

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StressedRose · 10/06/2013 13:44

makes me laugh that these days as soon as a dog does something like barks at strangers, etc etc we are advised to shell out 100's of ££ for advice that can be found very easily in books or on the internet.

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moogalicious · 10/06/2013 13:48

stressed I did read all the books and internet stuff, but the advice available is so conflicting and I was at the end of my tether, so for me it was money well spent. And when you spread the cost out over the life of the dog, it's peanuts.

But thanks for the adviceHmm

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StressedRose · 10/06/2013 13:50

Not having a go at you...but people have had dogs for centuries and did not need 'dog behaviourists'. I like to ask advice from other dog owners or read books etc. I reckon most of these so-called experts just read a few books and then set themselves up in business.

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HoneyDragon · 10/06/2013 13:53

Professionals in any field are usually more helpful than random Internet spiel Grin

When dh ran his finger through a table saw we went for A&E rather than a you tube tutorial on self suturing.

We're a bit odd like that.

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moogalicious · 10/06/2013 13:59

Wow stressed I hadn't thought of asking advice from other dog owners before shelling out for a behaviourist.

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VivaLeBeaver · 10/06/2013 14:10

Stressed, my dog bit six times in a day the other weekend. Believe me I have asked on here, on various forums, at the vets and google for advice but I can not take any risks. Three weeks ago I was close to having the dog pts.

Dog is still biting, bit dh again last night.

I did get some good advice online but also a load of conflicting advice. Also the people advising me aren't met my dog so would have no idea if its fear aggression, dominance aggression, etc. different types need sorting in different ways.

I don't exactly have loads of money to chuck about and am going to be scrabbling to find the money when the invoice comes so it wasn't a decision I've taken lightly.

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VivaLeBeaver · 10/06/2013 14:12

And this expert is a professor of veterinary behaviour medicine at the uni. So I'm sure he has read a few books. Smile

Plus there was a vet in on the whole consultation.

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moogalicious · 10/06/2013 14:16

Exactly viva, for me the behaviourist was the last resort.

I'm surprised how quickly I've seen results in my dog to be honest, but then everyone in the family has been on board with the training.

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VivaLeBeaver · 10/06/2013 14:22

Liver cake recipe I found was an oven one. Is microwave better?

Moogalicious, good to hear that you've been seeing some positive results. How long before you saw am improvement?

I've got to keep a diary of incidents. Get as much phone and email follow up as I require free of charge for three months.

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idirdog · 10/06/2013 14:55

Viva you are such an idiot why did you pay out money for a highly qualified behavourist when you should have just read the threads you posted first Confused

I am so glad that you have got some advice and just hope you can get DH on board. The progress that you have made yourself shows your dog wants to get it right.

I use microwave liver cake as the smell is out of the house quicker than oven cooked but the dogs don't seem to care - most dogs will do back flips for it

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TheCunnyFunt · 10/06/2013 15:07

:o Exactly what I was going to say idirdog! The smell doesn't linger as long with a microwave cake :o

This is recipe I use, my Greyhound loves the stuff!

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D0oinMeCleanin · 10/06/2013 15:13

My dog doesn't like liver cake Confused

Sardine cake, otoh, he would sell his soul for.

Same recipes just swap the liver for 2 tins of sardines, it stinks equally as bad.

Good luck.

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VivaLeBeaver · 10/06/2013 15:14

Did I mention dh is vegetarian? He has a fit if I cook sausages and "stink the house out"

Grin

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lougle · 10/06/2013 15:56

Sardine might be the way forward.

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lougle · 10/06/2013 16:01

I don't think you're an idiot to go to a behaviourist. I am stressed enough with Patch being afraid of other dogs...afraid of everything in fact. I've had to accept that for now, he much prefers his garden to any outside environment, despite what everyone says dogs like. I am having to be incredibly slow with any introduction outside of that because he struggles massively.

I hope you see a reduction in the behaviour. Did the dog have a bad experience with men? Could it be something your DH wears, which tips him off? There was a TV programme once which featured a dog who was afraid of men with beards. Once the man had a shave, he was fine.

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RedwingWinter · 10/06/2013 16:12

Viva, I'm glad it went well. I hope you can get your DH on board (he can always stick to cheese) as it will make a big difference if it is a concerted effort. It's great that you get the phone calls as follow-up - might as well make the most of that!

I seem to remember the dog was kept in an outhouse or shed or something as a puppy, which in itself is enough to trigger fear aggression as this is such a crucial time for socialization.

Stressed, the behaviourist has not just read a few books, this one has published a few things too. Amazing.

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StressedRose · 10/06/2013 16:13

Surgeons spent years training....many (most) dog 'behaviourists' do not...there is no way I'd spend £200 for an hour or so to be told to ignore the bad behaviour and chuck bits of cheese....it may well work but that advice is easily found on good vet websites, vet journal's etc

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