Thinking about getting a puppy.

(44 Posts)
molly29 Tue 12-Feb-13 21:42:06

Hi,
Any advice greatly appreciated.
We are considering getting a pup in the summer (we need to get our garden secure first). We are a young family, i am mostly at home so would be able to puppy train. But i am scared about getting it wrong. I have considered the time and money factors. But what breed? Looked into a cockapoo, because they are a medium size dog, good with kids, easy to train ect. I have a bad back so i don't want anything that will pull to much on the lead. Can anyone tell me their experiences with this breed? I want to weigh everything up before deciding.
Thanks.x

molly29 Tue 19-Feb-13 01:31:42

Brilliant sites, thinking there should be more organisations like this, as it is a worry to adopt a dog when you have small children, will be keeping a beady eye on them.x

Hope Rescue and Four Paws Rescue are both excellent rescues who insist on all their dogs spending time in a foster home before adoption. This is an excellent policy which means that all dogs have time to be thoroughly assessed before rehoming, particularly important for homes with children. Both charities are very well run, with good teams of highly committted volunteers and I have regular contact with both (though not directly a volunteer for either). In fact I am seeing people from both at a meeting tomorrow with Welsh Govt. If you adopt from either of these organisations, you can do so with confidence.

MechanicalTheatre Mon 18-Feb-13 21:33:26

Please do go to your local rescue and see what they can recommend for you.

It's great that you're asking for advice, so many people rush into getting a dog without thinking.

When my parents got our dog, he was a puppy and it was hard work - and that was when me and my brother were in our late teens so there were four people on-hand to train him. I would definitely recommend going for an older dog as they're calmer and you can see their temperament.

LadyTurmoil Mon 18-Feb-13 20:17:06

Also, Four Paws Animal Rescue has some staffie cross puppies www.fourpawsanimalrescue.org.uk/page2.html Could try looking at Hope Rescue as well. Google Dog Pages and find relevant pages for rescues in your area.

LadyTurmoil Mon 18-Feb-13 20:12:58

There is a litter of Labrador crosses at Many Tears at the moment (may be crossed with a spaniel Dad, although they're not sure) Have a look - would be hell of a lot cheaper than a "bought" cockapoo www.manytearsrescue.org/display_mtar_dog.php?id=6170

Heifer Mon 18-Feb-13 19:39:12

molly29 Thu 14-Feb-13 19:05:25
Just found a breed quiz that just gave the result of a cocker spaniel!

Molly do you have a link to the quiz please?

My folks have recently rescued a just over one year old chocolate lab. I've just looked after him for the weekend as they were going away, he is a beautiful lovely soppy thing but, by'eck, is he hard work! Needs at least two hours walking/playing a day, he is a Velcro dog, has to be under your feet all of 'the time. I can't imagine what hecwas like when he was a baby.
He and his brother ended up in rescue as the man who owned them had died and no-one else in the family wanted to take them on. Having met his brother, who was the more energetic of the two, I do get where they were coming from.

lotsofdogshere Mon 18-Feb-13 09:07:14

Lots of helpful advice and info here about puppies and poodle mixes. I have had spaniels, mongrels, cross breeds, german shepherds in the past and loved them all. I fully accept poodle crosses are not for everyone, and agree the cost of cockapoos is ludicrous. Despite this, my current dogs are a 4 year old labradoodle and a 10 month old cockapoo. The doodle was a real challenge, she has a high prey urge, was distractible, stubborn, high energy, high need for mental stimulation and by the time she was 15 months old, I'd found a local trainer to help me with her. Her temperament has always been gentle and kind fortunately. At 4 years old, she is a joy, responsive, affectionate, loyal and clever. The cockapoo pup benefitted from the stuff I learned with my labradoodle but also, he doesn't have the prey urge and is a calmer pup than she was. If you are considering a poodle cross, look at the labradoodle trust and the cockapoo owners sites. There are so many of these dogs needing re-homing, often as young as 7 - 10 months. Do not buy from preloved/gumtree etc as many of the pups on there are from puppy farms. Puppies are very hard work, it's been 40 years since I had an 8 week old pup (had rescue dogs for years) until my cockapoo arrived - it's a full time job for a while, but great fun and I'm enjoying having a pup who arrived having been properly bred and cared for, and who unlike all my rescue dogs, hasn't ever had people hurt or frighten him.

molly29 Sat 16-Feb-13 09:59:46

Just watched! I want one! What a lovely doggysmile heart melting!

Floralnomad Fri 15-Feb-13 19:04:29

molly have you looked at the clip on the 'not my feet ' thread . If that doesn't convert you to a pure show cocker nothing will . I'm sure the OP on the thread could recommend her breeder.

molly29 Fri 15-Feb-13 18:50:11

I think i'm going to have a wonder round my local rescue place and have a chat with them, before deciding.
Needastrongone, i'm considering a cockapoo because ,
1: all the reasons i listed in OP.
2: because ............i just love them, when ever i see one my heart meltssmile

Grunzlewheek Fri 15-Feb-13 18:46:29

I remember having 2 toddlers and a puppy, it was very hard work.

One day I found a puddle on the back door step, I cleaned it up and wondered how the (female) puppy had managed to wee there, then it dawned on me it wasn't the puppy it was a (male) toddler ! grin

tabulahrasa Fri 15-Feb-13 08:44:17

I've said before in here that I'll never have another puppy - He's my 5th dog, but my first tiny puppy. I've always had adult or 6 month plus rescues before and I never want to go through the mouthing or teething stages again.

I love dogs, the two years before getting this one was the longest I've ever been without one, it was all well prepared and planned for - I just hadn't realised exactly how hard the reality of it was.

ijustwant8hours Fri 15-Feb-13 08:17:53

I wrote a really long post and lost it! But it basically said what Spud said.

My DCs are 6 and 4, the puppy is now 6months. I love the dog but I would not do it again. We have good days and bad days! Puppies and young children are really hard work.

Can I just mention yet again, that many rescues will have the most beautiful puppies, if that is what you want? Pregnant bitches are often abandoned and then have their pups in experienced foster homes - this happens regularly and the pups are beautifully looked after by skilled rescue volunteers who realise more than many profit grabbing "breeders" the importance of good vet care and excellent socialisation. Similarly there are also often young dogs available for rehoming that have not come from poor circumstances. Typical reasons for rehoming include divorce, emigration, redundancy and the arrival of children - none of these have anything to do with the individual dog but are more a reflection on the people involved.

Spud's post is an excellent one about the reality of life with a pup. Have you thought about a whippet or a lurcher, or even a greyhound? Pointies make excellent family pets, and quite a few MNetters with young DC have them and they are much loved family members. They are also very healthy, long lived dogs (an important consideration) - lifespans to early/mid teens are common, virtually no HD and very few inherited nasties to worry about, unlike many of the pedigree breeds.

LadyTurmoil Thu 14-Feb-13 21:13:11

Just read other thread about Spuddog in the river - blimey and lol smile

LadyTurmoil Thu 14-Feb-13 21:11:34

VERY well said spud

Considers if I do spend that much time with the puppy and its not too far out at all, especially if you add in the rest of the family taking turns too.

Blimey!

Excellent post spud. Spot on.

My kids are 13 and 12 so brilliant with the puppy. They are also too old to need bathtime, storytime, er... time really, other than me being there to randomly nag and be available to chat when they need, plus taxi service. Dd can take herself to do the pony and ds is like another adult and sorts puppy while I make tea etc. They organise their own school bags and homework etc.

Even so, it's still full on, i reckon i spend 4 to 5 hours with our puppy a day. that probably sounds extreme but thats walks, garden, training, play, feeding, cuddling etc. then the kids and dh spend tine with him too. appreciate hes a lucky sod but thats the reality of a clever and active breed. I have to split my work up too now to ensure that he isnt left too long etc. hard at start as you really cant leave them long at all. Go into this with your eyes open and the very best of luck!!

Why not simply a Cocker or Poodke though, if you don't mind the question?

Hope it works out whatever happens!!

On phone, typos will be dreadful!

Floralnomad Thu 14-Feb-13 20:32:34

Well said spud.

spudballoo Thu 14-Feb-13 20:22:33

I am one of the posters here who has cried tears, oceans of tears over our puppy. He's now nearly 1 and is a labradoodle. I have a two boys, 7 and 6 and I don't work.

I would seriously consider getting an older, rescue dog. If I had my time again that is what I would do. The trouble with a puppy is that you have no idea, none, what kind of temperament your puppy will have once it's grown up and much of that is down to nature and not nurture. So it's almost irrelevant to talk about which breeds are 'good' with children etc, as the honest answer is 'none' - it's down to the individual dog. I thought, wrongly, that rescue dogs are all vicious nasties that no one wants and that rescues wouldn't consider us anyway as we have young children. I now know that to be wrong.

I thought a puppy was a good idea as my children and cats would get along better with a puppy growing up. I was wrong. the children HATED him as a young puppy and the eldest cried and cried and begged for him to be sent back. He hated the jumping and nipping and chasing and that is an inevitable part of the puppy months. The cats hate him too.

Frankly, I really found the early puppy months appalling too. It was worse than having another baby. I lost loads of weight and couldn't sleep, I just could not believe how all consuming looking after a puppy was. And then we had lots of problems with him biting me but that's another issue.

Personally I would never have a puppy again, and certainly not with young children about. I've had to organise all kinds of dog and child care for half term as my children just can't walk the kind of distance the dog needs to be walked every day. It's ok for a few days, but they just can't do it every day! And when the children are home sick from school, or I am sick, it's a nightmare as the dog must be walked regardless or he is so hard to manage in the house as he's still very young. Playdates involve the puppy having the be kept apart from nervous children. All toys must be kept upstairs or he eats them. I could go on...!

I would also never have a poodle mix again. I would look in to cocker rage before considering a cockerpoo.

Next time I'm getting an older dog from a rescue. any kind of dog, I dont' care what breed or what kind of mutt. I just want the right dog for our family and not a puppy that could grow up to be quite the opposite.

molly29 Thu 14-Feb-13 19:33:17

oh thats great thanks, will have a look!

tabulahrasa Thu 14-Feb-13 19:08:08

My DC are 12 and 16 and used to dogs - they still didn't cope massively well with the tiny furry bitey thing, lol.

There's a cockapoo club they have information on health testing and breeders.

molly29 Thu 14-Feb-13 19:05:25

Just found a breed quiz that just gave the result of a cocker spaniel!

molly29 Thu 14-Feb-13 18:56:21

Hiya All,
My dc's are 7 and 3. Also my son is at school full time in September, so wa thinking that if we got a pup in the summer, i would have more time to concentrate on it.
I'm still a bit confused on how i find a good breeder? Looked at kennel club but as they are not a recognized breed i couldn't find anything about it.
Also i am visiting a puppy class next week while i am considering breeds ect,thought i could pick some peoples brains and see the dogs.
Thanks again

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