Bastard Dog Club

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Roll up, roll up! Anyone who has a Bastard Dog sign in here! Does your dog hate other dogs? Does he or she bark, lunge, growl or actually want to eat other canines? Are you regularly stressed, embarassed or rocking in a corner by your Bastard Dog's antics? Then this is your safe zone. Come hither and share your tales of woe, and also hopefully your successes.

Give us some background, thus:

BD breed: Spaniel cross
BD age: 18 months
BD behaviour: Jumps at approaching dogs and tells them to fuck off in a very vocal way.
BD training attempts: We're working on BAT, using tons of treats and actively avoiding interactions.
Frequency of BD incidents: Probably some kind of reaction every month or so, usually my fault.

Now, who's for gin? <profers bottle>

I only had a go because he was getting a bit scruffy and tracking more mud in to the house than strictly necessary.

My poor, lopsided hound sad

Walking back from the school run today, I spotted a chap walking a staffy towards us. So, I crossed the road to keep Jas below threshold. The poor bloke's face dropped, and I felt lousy for him, so shouted across 'It's not your dog! It's mine! He doesn't like other dogs and we're training!' He cheered up considerably and shouted back 'Oh! Yes! Mine can be a bit grumpy, too. Sometimes he's fine, and sometimes he hates other dogs on sight.' So there we were, two BD owners yelling across the street at each other while our dogs pretended not to see each other. It was on the tip of my tongue to say 'Ah, he's a bastard dog!', but thought that might have been a bit forward.

PointyDogs Fri 08-Feb-13 00:15:08

Can we join please?

BD1 breed: Border Collie
BD1 Age: 5 years
BD1 Behaviour: absolutely loves all dogs smaller than him, especially spanielly types. Absolutely hates/scared of/intimidated by dogs bigger than him, and will have a go if they get too close. Has bitten badly, resulting in being muzzled for 12 months while I figured out his triggers. Trigger = bigger than him... sad

Plus points: Great recall. Typical collie, totally ball focussed, could safely walk him through a pack of great danes by dangling a ball in front of him, so long as they didn't get in his face too much. He does try to ignore them bless him, but it is the stupid labradors dogs who think everyone is their best mate and won't leave him alone that get to him!

BD2 breed: whippet lurcher
BD2 Age: 10 years
BD2 Behaviour: fantastic with people, dogs, our own cats (others are fair game), but obsessed with comfort. Goes through phases (currently on week 2 of this one) when he will wake us up at midnight barking and whining because BD1 is in the comfy bed (both dog beds are identical) and won't make room for him. We shift them around only to be woken again at 3am because he's decided that actually he wants the OTHER bed after all, and BD1 still won't move over...repeat ad nauseum. We have a 7 month old baby who lets us have more sleep than the lurcher!!

tedsmam Mon 11-Feb-13 15:10:26

me too please....

Ted. Labrador. Angelic in every way. 5 years old. Loves people, dogs, cats, helping the poor and sick etc.
Percy. Labrador. Angelic loving sweet tempered and laid back boy. Til he goes out on walkies then become evil twat who barks, growls, and lunges at all other dogs, thus setting Ted off who barks like mad thing at nowt inparticular and therefore I look to all and sundry like I have two rabid killers on the end of a lead.
No amount of treats, distractions etc helps.

The shame.

Toomuchtea Mon 11-Feb-13 18:02:27

Can I join too please? There are a lot of us. I feel your pain, tedsmam.

BD breed: Yellow lab
Age: nearly 8
BD Behaviour: thinks all dogs on leads are out to get her (after unfortunate incident with 2 airedales who were) so now likes to get in there first.
BD frequency: at the mo, almost never as we live in a village and have made a point of introducing dog to all local dogs we meet about and so she knows them and is ok. HOWEVER, we are about to move to a town where there will be billions of dogs, all on leads.
BD training: avoiding, distraction. Distraction doesn't work if we turn a corner and there one is, so place self between dog and other dog and walk on rapidly.

Plus points: Brilliant at recall. Always comes back. Loves all humanity. Comforter of teenagers. Gets on pretty well with cat, though all others are fair game.

BangersAndMashh Thu 14-Feb-13 09:24:09

Hi can I join please smile

BD breed: Chocolate labrador
BD age: 2 years
BD behaviour: Eats shit - any shit - her shit, cat shit, sheep shit, your dog's shit... Will lick a visitors face after eating shit, Humps unsuspecting children, barks at any noise in the house, eats shoes
BD training attempts: Reward based
Frequency of BD incidents: Daily!!

BangersAndMashh Thu 14-Feb-13 09:43:13

Oh and will throw herself on her back screaming (literally screaming) if any dog runs at her - even if they don't touch her. Then the poor owner thinks their dog has viciously attacked my wet leg of a lab and I have to explain no, I just own an idiot smile

BangersAndMashh Thu 14-Feb-13 09:54:27

Oh and will throw herself on her back screaming (literally screaming) if any dog runs at her - even if they don't touch her. Then the poor owner thinks their dog has viciously attacked my wet leg of a lab and I have to explain no, I just own an idiot smile

Welcome, all newcomers grin

My BD is being very good this week, and even played nicely with some known dogs. UNfortunately, he got bounced on by a lab last week and got a bit gobby. The lab didn't seem to mind, and kept coming back for more. I had to actually juggle two squeaky tennis balls to get his attention so that we could make our escape. I'm like some frantic circus act now, using a sing song voice, lobbing gravy bones and also proviiding amusement for the general dog walking populus.

BangersAndMashh Thu 14-Feb-13 10:45:05

Oh dear, sounds like labs are a bit of a pain to you poor lot hangs head in shame. Mine only wants to jump up at the BD's owner tbh, she just lies on her back and sqeals at dogs! (Unless she knows the dog well then she wants to play!)

Stupid postman left the gate open again this morning, and NuttyDog took it upon herself to make a great escape out the gate and down the hill after next door's cat! Nearly caused about 4 car accidents, brilliant...

TeaAndToast92 Thu 14-Feb-13 11:48:46

Hi, could I join too?

BD breed - Labrador (Choc)
BD age - Just turned 2
BD behaviour - Chases joggers, gets aggressive towards dogs that bound up to her (she's been attacked by other dogs lots, the poor thing), jumps up at strangers with muddy paws, howls when left in the out building, is a persistent hand and wrist nibbler - at 2 you would think she would have out grown this, eats poo (even her own - ewwww)

Plus points - Very affectionate, good at cheering you up, never jumps up at my belly (I'm pregnant - I'm sure she can sense it!), brilliant with kids, house trained, great recall (unless distracted by another dog/person/jogger/duck/breeze.... grin), very good at "tricks" (sit, stay, leave it, beg, roll over etc).

From what I have been told, TeaAndToast, labs grow up more slowly than other dogs, so at 2, she is still a baby really. Poor her having been attacked by other dogs, though. sad I wish you lived near us - we have a choc lab too, who is soft as butter, and submissive too, and maybe they could have met eachother and helped yours get over her understandable fears.

The poo eating never stops, though.

Tea, the reactive fear aggression is a right pig, isn't it? We are having some success using BAT, and in fact my dog managed to completely ignore a curious collie pup this morning even when it sniffed his bum! shock It's hard work, and there are definitely set backs, but it is worth it smile

Toomuchtea Thu 14-Feb-13 12:49:29

What is BAT? We are moving on Monday and poor dog will face a whole new canine society so anything I can fit into my armoury before then will be very welcome.

gymmummy64 Thu 14-Feb-13 12:52:28

Chickens did you look at the link that Beamur posted the other day? here I think, never done a link before Sounds like there's a fair few of us on this thread alone that might benefit from a yellow ribbon...

Here's a link which explains a bit about it. I found that I saw results quite quickly, but you have to take it slowly and build up in tiny increments.

I saw that, gym. It would be great if it took off. I've seen some staffies around here wearing bright collars with 'FRIENDLY' written on them, which I thought was nice, too.

gymmummy64 Thu 14-Feb-13 13:05:20

Though I have to say that if Gymdog continues as he's done over the last week we might have to resign our BD membership <laughs hysterically>. Since his late night trip to the allotments last week he's been an absolute paragon. Personal bests over the last week:
- 35 minutes off lead without scarpering, an all-time record!!
- six dogs in the same field whilst offlead, all ignored and perfect recall if he even looked in their direction (ok, we were in the middle of the field and they were in the distance but even so)
- encounter with very lively boundy puppy this morning who bowed and rolled and yipped and yapped and was utterly and completely IGNORED by Gymdog who is definitely developing a new holier-than-thou look. Fine by me - I'll have holy over barky and snappy any day grin

TeaAndToast92 Thu 14-Feb-13 13:15:20

BAT looks interesting, thanks for that! Going to have a good look through some sites and hopefully get started ASAP with that smile

Anyone know anything about Shar Pei's? A 'friend' has just got one off Gum Tree and is having a few problems with it.

(I know, I know ...)

I know a chap with two shar pei's. He can't let them off lead and they both have to be walked in muzzles. They loathe other dogs and are very dog aggressive. Soft as butter with people, though. I think they were bred as fighting dogs originally. They also suffer with a lot of skin problems.

Shar Pei's have lots of issues. V common for their hair/fur to trigger allergies, skin and eye complaints endemic, ear problems too. Poor dog is prob in pain/itching - need huge amounts of specialist care, bathing each day etc to ensure no problems with skin folds etc. Have heard various problems with them temperament wise. Personally I would steer clear (though obviously a bit late now for your "friend") sad

Well, as you know, we have a reactive BD who is an elderly greyhound and we are doing BAT with him. I've been seeing a lot about the Yellow Dog project and must admit I was initially very sceptical, but have decided to give it a go. So as from this weekend our lovely BD will be wearing a bright yellow bandana and I will see if this has any impact on how people behave around him or how they manage their dogs. Should be interesting. I will report back. Anyone else wearing a yellow ribbon/bandana?
The biggest problem we find with BAT is not so much other dogs on leads, but the offlead dogs whose owners are half a mile away (usually on the bloddy phone angry) completely oblivious to their darling dog while I'm trying to gently steer mine away, with gritted teeth. And then if they do see you they just smile and say "Oh, he only wants to play" - aaaarghhh...... And breathe...

Yep, Scuttle. Those situations are 50/50 as to whether my dog will react. If he does, I try not to see it as a failure on my part. Always feel a bit crestfallen, though. Especially if we've been making good progress.

I'm intrigued by the yellow ribbon idea. Would be fabulous if it caught on.

Thanks Chickens and Scuttles - it is only 6 months old and was given up by its last owner as they wanted a baby. The whole thing stinks to me. It bit the trainer at puppy training shock and lives with two small boys.

I think I will have to have a chat.

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