Please advise. Dog "nappies". ..

(19 Posts)
MrsWolowitz Sat 29-Dec-12 18:45:30

Another little update - No wees again all day!!!!

I know its not very exciting but I'm very happy about it!

Maybe my lovely Wolodog is on the mend! smile

MrsWolowitz Fri 28-Dec-12 19:47:56

Nope. Sorry to disappoint grin

They just took urine samples.

No wees again today! smile

Lonecatwithkitten Fri 28-Dec-12 11:36:59

Have they contrast imaging studies to look for anatomical abnormalities that could be causing this.
Nothing I like better than a good double contrast imaging study.

MrsWolowitz Fri 28-Dec-12 09:30:44

There's no crystals or stones.

It's a bit of a mystery. Poor girl.

Wotnow Fri 28-Dec-12 00:22:43

Ok. Well I think your vet needs to investigate a bit further then
Check for crystals or balder stoneS. They need fresh ursine a d will probably need X-rays

Hope she feels better soon

MrsWolowitz Thu 27-Dec-12 21:13:54

Sorry, I should have been more clear in my op.

She isn't incontient as in she is aware that she is weeing but can't seem to control when or where it happens IYSWIM.

MrsWolowitz Thu 27-Dec-12 21:12:46

No, she doesn't appear to be incontinent as she squats to wee. This means that she knows she is doing it which would more than likely be an infection. The thing is that she had one course of abs back in June that did nothing sad

She isn't leaking in her sleep so I was a bit confused when she was prescribed incurin.

She won't ask to go out she will just squat and pee wherever she is despite being let out regularly. Sometimes she will come straight in from a walk or the garden and pee then look really guilty.

The kids are typical kids and are noisy etc but they are very gentle with her and she has her own space where she can escape to although most of the time she follows them around for playtime and cuddles.

Wotnow Thu 27-Dec-12 20:59:27

Is She incontinent?
No amount of training or wiping up or killing the smell will help if she is just dribbling urine when alseep or even awake/ lying down

Is the bacterial infection a primary problem orndidntje vet say it is secondary to incontinence?

I thought your OP meant she was dribbling everywhere unknowingly, as incur in is a treatment for this
As I said, if she's in continent and the meds aren't working she needs specialist

If she is havin recurrent urine infections or is urinating inappropriately the. It needs investigating with ursine samea/ cultures and maybe X-rays or
Ultrasound .
Hth

MrsWolowitz Thu 27-Dec-12 19:35:17

Thanks all for your advice.

The puppy won't be ready until mid 2014 so I'm not worried about that. Also we have had puppies and rescue mutts so am used to an acceptable amount of wee and poo grin

I'm just so worried about this if its a permenant issue. I wouldn't put her to sleep over this. Shes a great dog and I love her to bits.

Shes only 7 so will hopefully live for another good few years but this cannot go on so hopefully the anti-biotics will make a difference (no wees today)!

If not I think I'll have to give the nappies a go and just make sure that they are changed regularly. She walks evey day and we have a good size garden and let her out every hour.

I really hope this gets sorted as she hates peeing in the house and looks really guilty whe she does it but we don't tell her off as she really can't help it. Poor little pooch sad

Floralnomad Thu 27-Dec-12 11:12:12

It would never be appropriate IMO to have a dog PTS because of incontinence. It's not an issue for the dog ,its an issue for you ,unless you are making a big deal about it and telling her off it won't be bothering her at all. I agree with scuttle about not getting a puppy if this is an issue to you as you'll then have poo in the house as well!

Lonecatwithkitten Thu 27-Dec-12 10:31:12

I agree you should go back to the vet. You need to give them detailed history is she urinating inapproriately - puddle on the floor or leaking - wet bed when she gets up?
If she has a persistent bacterial infection that isn't going away she will need a culture done and also maybe imaging studies to see whether there is an anatomical problem.
If it is true incontience ie leaking there are three main meds Propalin, Incurin and Enurace if none of these have worked then surgery maybe the answer.

Firstly, I would get this issue resolved before you consider bringing another dog into the house.

Also, if you are very worried about a dog weeing in the house, if you get a Spinone pup as in your other post, you will need to go through masses of wee in the house while pup is growing up.

What are you using to clean the surfaces after each incident? Quite often, if you are not removing the smell entirely, it can linger (to the dog) and encourages them to use the same spot over and over.

As others have asked, how often is the dog going outside during the day? Do you have a clear routine (many dogs respond well to this)? Make sure she is going out first thing, and then regularly every hour or so through the day. Go out with her and praise like mad if she performs. Do NOT tell her off or shout at her if you find wee in the house. Does she "ask" to go out? Are you picking up on her signals for this?

I'd go back to your vet and ask for a referral to a specialist. I'd also consider the possibility of your dog being very stressed especially as you have three young DC.

Wotnow Wed 26-Dec-12 18:36:51

Ask your vet to refer her to a specialist as surgery may e useful if all else is ok.
Hopefully sheis insured
If not, save up!!

LoveDogs Wed 26-Dec-12 18:35:57

Sorry, I didn't actually answer the question.
Yes we have used these, but have found they tend to leak down her legs, but then she has very long fur, so it could be that.

LoveDogs Wed 26-Dec-12 18:32:03

We have this trouble with our old girl, what medicines have you tried?
Have you tried propalin syrup, we've been through many medicines as well and this has been the best.
Also, how often do you let her out?

Oreocrumbs Wed 26-Dec-12 18:27:06

I haven't used them either, but I too would be concearned about the effect on her skin.

I have only had old age related incontinece with dogs, and I used to put lots of old towels down on the floor (it was tiled), and then scoop them up first thing and wash them.

How about buying puppy training pads/materninty bed pads/potty training bed pads, and putting them on the sofa so that it won't soak through to the fabric.

Or try and keep her off the couch. Our dogs are allowed on some sofas and not others, so at night, we put the small chairs from DD's table and chairs on the sofa to stop them from climbing up. Or perhaps you could get a cheap shower curtain/large plastic sheet, and throw that over the sofa before you go to bed?

Also with our old dog, she wouldn't go out for a wee at bed time, so we walked her last thing at night for just 10 mins, but she would go when she was out. That was before we had DD, so it might not be feasable if you will have to stay in when your children are in bed.

MrsWolowitz Wed 26-Dec-12 18:16:27

Thanks D0oin.

We already have laminate in our lounge but we couldn't afford to do the whole downstairs. The problem is that she is weeing on our sofas and beds before she was banned from the bedrooms as well sad

Its exhausting and I'm convinced my house must stink of wee.

Not sure what to do. She has at least an hours walk a day but that hasn't made any difference either. She's so great in every other way and is one of the best dogs I've ever had. This issue is just horrible though.

D0oinMeCleanin Wed 26-Dec-12 17:45:22

I've never tried them but would be worried about the effect of having urine near the skin for prolonged periods.

My Terrier came to me with urine burns on his belly and feet from the pound and was in a lot of pain. Not nice.

Would redoing the downstairs of the house in laminate be too much? I refuse to admit that I went this far for my epileptic JRT who had incontinence issues Or maybe some plastic sheeting over the carpets in the rooms she is in the most?

MrsWolowitz Wed 26-Dec-12 17:39:31

My beautiful 7 year old dog is incontinent. She urinates in the house at least once a day, sometimes as much as 5 or 6 times in a day and also urinates once in the night.

This has been going on for about 9 months (prior to this she was very clean). We are spending a fortune at the vets and none of the medicines are working. She is nw on the highest dose of incurine that she can have and is also on anti-biotics as her latest urine test showed signs of an infection. So far, no improvement.

I have 3 preschoolers so i really can't go on having this mess as its so smelly and unhygenic.

She is a lovely dog. I'm currently going thrugh some terrible depression and she really is being an amazing help to me. I can't put her to sleep unless of course it was the right thing for her.

I'm considering dog nappies as a last resort. I found this website. Does anyone have any experience of handling this situation or using dog nappies?

Any advice would be massively appreciated as its getting stressful and quite upsetting.

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