wheter or not to ditch the crate? your views please...

(37 Posts)
WTFwasthat Mon 26-Nov-12 07:17:26

pup has never been a massive fan of the crate. He sleeps overnight in the kitchen under the worktop in his dogbed. No puddles or poos in morning. He will pop himself in his bed if he wants a snooze in the day. He never voluntarily goes in his crate even when his dog bed was in there. I have popped out twice in last two days. for 30 mins max to collect dd and left him in kitchen but not in crate ( which is in living room), with no problem. Is it worth persevering with crate? I have been putting him inthere when I go out for longer, shopping etc. and he doesn't fuss but is there any point?

WTFwasthat Fri 07-Dec-12 21:38:47

good luck LT!

LadyTurmoil Wed 05-Dec-12 12:34:52

Yes, I can see them! He's really, really sweet. I'm very taken with a Labrador cross on a rescue website. She's 3-4 years old, supposedly calm, sweet and gentle. I'm going to launch a full assault on stubborn OH when he gets home from abroad tonight. Have already emailed him photos. It's one of those times, I wish I didn't have to take other people into consideration. If it was just me, I would have already done the deed!

WTFwasthat Wed 05-Dec-12 09:47:46

pardon Partridge confused!

PartridgeInASpicyPearTree Tue 04-Dec-12 21:55:56

I must admit to a bit...

This swipy keyboard is the bain of my life.

PartridgeInASpicyPearTree Tue 04-Dec-12 21:54:22

Squeeeeee! He's lovely.

I must about you a buy of puppy envy at class tonight. Nothing cuter than a lab puppy. My mutt is more characterful than cute smile

WTFwasthat Tue 04-Dec-12 21:34:33

i think i put a photo of Max on my profile. Can someone tell ke

WTFwasthat Tue 04-Dec-12 21:22:47

ladyturmol, i have no idea how to upload pics. i will haveva go x

LadyTurmoil Tue 04-Dec-12 12:14:43

WTF sounds like everything is working out well. Need some more pictures - sure he has grown up a lot since we saw that picture of him as a small puppy, please!

VeganCow Tue 04-Dec-12 11:48:09

My pup is almost 7 months, we ditched the crate at 5 months. Was good when she was little, when cooking etc just to keep her out of harms way for the odd half hour, and also to give some respite to our older dog.

But, she prefers to sleep on the sofa and always chose that over the crate by about 5 months old..when younger she would willingly go in it for naps, then she started to dislike it.

I never had intentions of the crate being there always, I borrowed it short term but as lots of people have said on this thread, why crate a dog who has a nice bed elsewhere and is well behaved?

Just make sure you leave plenty of hide chews, stuffed kong, ball etc when you go out. You can freeze the kong overnight to give a 'power emptier' more time on it.

WTFwasthat Thu 29-Nov-12 07:15:12

shoutymc- yes, i do think it is an individual thing. Pup is much happier. Imwould have loved to have had him enjoy the crate but he never took to it!

shoutymcshoutsmum Wed 28-Nov-12 18:30:50

We have a super lovely covered crate in the kitchen. For whatever reason, our one year old GSP didn't like it. He would get upset in the crate but not cuddled up elsewhere so we let him be. In my limited experience, it seems like different dogs like different things. Not been a problem for us to listen to our dog - we just have to be vigilant about what we leave out as he is an amazing counter surfer.

WTFwasthat Wed 28-Nov-12 17:43:30

well the crate is history! He has been in the house (confined to kitchen/diner and hallway) with no access to lounge or dining room and it has been fine!

PortBlacksandCheeseBoard Tue 27-Nov-12 21:19:53

We never bothered. didn't really like the idea if i'm honest. Ddog1 was a pup before they became popular (he's 14 now) and Dpups2&3 slept on a beanbag by the side of our bed at night...

....a few wooden knobs got chewed but we replaced them with metal ones.

WTFwasthat Tue 27-Nov-12 21:04:32

well taking thiese posts into account I think I will ditch the crate.m If i need to go out longer i leave him at my Mums ( like tonight I had parent's evening) Maybe I have got lucky with puppy. Fingers crossed smile

Floralnomad Tue 27-Nov-12 19:25:29

I'm not against crates when used correctly but ours just never saw it as his bed which may be because it was too large or because it reminded him of being at Battersea . I do agree though that by 16 weeks it would be apparent that you'd got a chewer!

tabulahrasa Tue 27-Nov-12 19:12:26

To be fair, I was fairly against crates until I researched them, my puppy came used to one, so I've not had to train him to go into it at all he happily goes in there when the door's open to sleep about half the time during the day and he's shut in at night and most days because I'm in he's shut in it much less than an hour split through the day, ten minutes here and there while I go for a shower or the toilet...but obviously he can't come to the supermarket or to parent's evening so he gets left after a walk with toys and a kong stuffed with food if I have to do something like that, but he mostly sleeps.

Anything longer than a couple of hours I get a puppy sitter for.

GoldenOrangeWhippoorwhill Tue 27-Nov-12 18:18:33

I'd be tempted to ditch the cage. I've never actually used one. I don't have a problem with them, just never thought about it but the dogs we've had showed their chewing tendencies early on.

I had one who was a chewer right from the start. She ripped beds to pieces, destroyed shoes and handbags, chewed chunks out of walls etc. despite having many, many toys and bones to entertain her. Even now, at the age of 12, she chewed open one of the puppy's toys and pulled all the stuffing out.

The second dog never chewed anything she wasn't supposed to, except one night I forgot I'd left some treats in a coat pocket and she nibbled a tiny hole and ate the treats.

The third dog was a rescue Golden Retriever who, amongst the many problems that led to his needing a new home, had eaten their kitchen!!! He was 6 months old when we got him and had been locked in a garden shed every day because he was such a dreadful chewer that they wouldn't have him in the house. I didn't leave him alone, unsupervised, at any point and he never chewed anything bad. He did love bones and toys and would steal things to bring to you when he was excited but handed them over unchewed so I suspect that a lot of his problem was boredom and separation anxiety.

Pupiranha is very much a chewer so she gets confined to the Utility Room over night and when we have to go out. She gets a stuffed Kong and amuses herself shredding the puppy pads. No doubt she will discover that beds and duvets have fluff inside them before long!!!

Jux Tue 27-Nov-12 18:00:55

Sorry. Hope I didn't offend anyone. Now I know! I really didn't understand, and am massively curious about this sort of thing, even though we'll never have a dog as dh hates them (and we have 3 cats and a bearded dragon - and that's all quite expensive enough).

Thanks for telling me.

tabulahrasa Tue 27-Nov-12 16:19:39

It was pretty obvious that mine was a walking shredder from day one btw, he likes to have a good gnaw on things since he started teething, but he didn't suddenly start chewing, he's always done it.

My last dog I got as an older puppy, just at the end of teething and he wasn't really a chewer, he always chewed his beds and occasionally he'd steal a shoe - but he didn't chew randomly like this one.

Floralnomad Tue 27-Nov-12 15:54:11

Mine rips up newspapers, still does at 2.5 , he even tries to drag it out of the rabbits cage! The worst he's ever done was when he chewed through a pair of very expensive Egyptian cotton sheets ,but it was my own fault because I'd left them on the floor in front of the machine and he sat down on them and ate them! All his blankets have holes in them ! I would think your puppy is just as likely to destroy your kitchen overnight as during the day, that's when my mums dog did all his best work.

OneMoreChap Tue 27-Nov-12 15:51:09

Never crated any of the multiple canines; couple of them chewed, most didn't.
Trained on paper/pads in kitchen; when clean, given access to rest of house and dogflap.

House is always full of dog hair and mud, despite best efforts. Tiled floors for the win.

WTFwasthat Tue 27-Nov-12 15:44:39

he is 16 and half weeks.

WTFwasthat Tue 27-Nov-12 15:43:29

floralnomad. i am tempted to ditch it. when i go out he has usually dragged a shoe or slipper in his bed but he doesn't chew it, he snuggles on it confused. he does chew stuff but he seems to favour cardboard and newspapers! My recycling is now out of reach!

Floralnomad Tue 27-Nov-12 15:37:31

My dog never voluntarily went in his crate either and TBH it was so big we ditched it , he has also never chewed any fixtures just clothing ,slippers,soft toys etc, we leave him in the hall when we go out as that's where he sleeps at night . It is quite large . My mother had a dog that chewed through oven housings ( several) but it was very apparent from about 12 weeks ,he never grew out of it so it had nothing to do with teeth! IMO I'd risk it in the kitchen cos if he's going to chew during the day he will also do it overnight.

tabulahrasa Tue 27-Nov-12 14:52:33

Jux - I'm doing my best to teach my puppy not to chew, but he literally wanders round the room looking for things to chew on and that's with every chew and toy money can buy available and me there willing to entertain him...

He's tried chewing everything, doors, shelves, the wall, cables, the floor, the cat hmm I've had to fish screws, scissors and staples out of his mouth nevermind the sort of things I'd expect him to want to get, and these aren't things just lying about at puppy height, so he's safer in his crate if there's no-one watching him.

The plan was that it'd go when he'd learnt not to chew, but now he's here I have no idea when that will be, lol.

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