Cross Breeds. What is your opinion.

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MrsDeVere Fri 19-Oct-12 17:49:06

I am NOT starting a bunfight thread and will not participate in one. If it goes that way I will simply hide this thread and not come back smile

I am genuinely after people's opinions and their reasoning.
I have noticed on threads that there seems to be a general dislike of cross breeds. Not the actual dogs, I am sure you all love the individual dogs, but the idea of them.

Is it only the 'designer' crosses that are the problem? If so I can understand that. But I dont get the problem with genuine mongrels.
But then I understand the problem with people not getting their dogs neutered and I suppose if they did, there wouldnt be any mongrels would there? <confuses self>

The reason I ask is because I have never had a pedigree and never had a desire to own one. I think they are perfectly lovely but I would be happy if all dogs were mixed (dont hurt me).

I had a proper Heinz 57. He was simply the best dog ever. Collie size, retriever type coat, head like a flat GSD and the best natured dog I have ever met.
We had a ChixJRT (we think) who we got when she was 7 from DGM who was going into sheltered housing. She was a bloody nightmare but lovely. Escapee extraordinaire and lived till she was about 19.
I have a terrier cross. Quite a big body and little legs. He is now about 15-17 and living with my DS who he adores.
I have a chi x pom (klein) who is lovely, no trouble, never runs off, ignores other dogs and loves the DCs. He is 3.

All of my dogs have been rescues apart from the Chi x. I wanted a puppy and had small children so knew it would be almost impossible to rehome (from past experience).

I did a lot of thinking before chosing a cross breed type. I wanted a small dog without any terrier. I think I am a responsible dog owner. My dogs are all neutered, trained, chipped, wormed and vaccinated.

I would like another dog at some point but am confused as to how to go about it. I would gladly take a puppy from a rescue but what are my chances?
If I buy one from a private home am I encouraging feckless owners or helping solve a problem by homing an unwanted puppy?

Is there a way of doing this the right way?

MrsDeVere Fri 19-Oct-12 18:28:06

Oh right! Because I have vetoed bunfights no-one will join my thread hmm
grin

kilmuir Fri 19-Oct-12 18:31:58

i have had rescue pedigree and rescue cross breed. no difference. more important to me they are from a rescue

tittytittyhanghang Fri 19-Oct-12 18:35:44

I have nothing against them and am a bit hmm at people who do, especially when they go on about the price of them and more specifically irresponsible breeders. << As in there are plenty of irresponsible breeders, pedigree and non, so don't understand why anyone would home in on cross breed breeders itms.

clam Fri 19-Oct-12 18:45:39

I suspect people with strong opinions are too busy throwing punches on that other thread at the moment.
But knowing the doghouse as I do, I'll be really surprised if this can be a calm, rational discussion.

(I have a cockapoo and will not apologise for the fact)

WereTricksPotter Fri 19-Oct-12 18:49:11

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twooter Fri 19-Oct-12 18:50:21

I don't know what the problem is. I've worked with dogs in the past and often would see one which would be 'my type'. They were invariably never pedigrees, but IMO, lots cuter and had great personalities. There are very few pedigrees that do it for me tbh.

twooter Fri 19-Oct-12 18:51:38

Agree completely with weretrickspotter too.

twooter Fri 19-Oct-12 18:54:11

Although, I don't mind breeders breeding labradoodles etc, if they do all the pre-mating tests, and are doing it in a controlled manner without churning out a litter of pups per bitch each year.

monsterchild Fri 19-Oct-12 18:54:35

I think mongrels are the best dogs evah! I've only ever had mongrels, but Dh had a lovely Golden, and I can understand why you'd want a dog like that now.

I think it's the not neutering, unwanted puppy making that gets people going more than the thought of mongrels.

Also, if you do have a job in mind, I assume pedigree dogs are better, just because they are bred for that purpose. Not that any individual might excel, but if you have a collie, you know what you're getting. (or should).

I agree that many people in the rescue world don't like the designer mutts because as first generation mixes, they aren't as predicable, and if popular for looks may be more likely to be abandoned/neglected as owners may be getting for the wrong reasons.

MothershipG Fri 19-Oct-12 18:55:31

I think that most people who seem to have a problem with crossbreeds actually have a problem with unregulated breeding.

If dogs are randomly crossed there is no way to know anything about their medical background, an ethical breeder should only breed dogs with the best potential of health and the highest chance of avoiding hereditary diseases.

If dogs are randomly crossed it is harder to predict their behavioural and exercise requirements, so how can new owners attempt to get a dog to suit their lifestyle?

Most breeders that breed crosses do so without carrying out any of the health checks required for the individual breeds. If the breeder of your Chi x did, they are definitely the exception not the rule. sad

Many breeders of crosses appear to be in it purely for the money and in fact many of them are bred in puppy farms and the home the buyer visits is just a front. sad

The KC is far from perfect but there is absolutely no regulation regarding the breeding of crosses so breeders can do what they like with a bitch, starting her too young and breeding to the point of exhaustion. sad

Of course there are some mad dog people who just think crossbreed are inferior but I think that they are in the minority, although sometimes very vocal minority.

Is that what you wanted to know MrsDV?

WereTricksPotter Fri 19-Oct-12 18:56:15

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Cuebill Fri 19-Oct-12 18:57:51

No bun fight from me and I have no problem with cross breeds at all . But I have a major problem with people selling cross breeds at ridiculous prices and claiming them to be a breed eg labradoodles etc.

Matings from backyard breeders just out to make money and cashing in on the latest fashion is a major problem. There is definitely more backyard breeders in the "fashion matings".

However I think there should be a ban on all breeding of dogs until the number of dogs in rescue is lower.wink

LadyTurmoil Fri 19-Oct-12 18:58:01

I don't see why rescues wouldn't consider you. I know you have one young child but www.manytears.co.uk are willing to home if a suitable dog is on their books. I'm sure other rescues would too. I love some of the "street" dogs that are being rescued by organisations like www.romaniaanimalaid.co.uk/, www.streetdogrescue.com/ and k-9angels.org/. There are many more! I'd much rather have rescue mutt than a pedigree which cost so much and are liable to so many inherited diseases. I reckon if a dog has managed to survive on the streets of Romania then they're going to be pretty damn tough! smile

tabulahrasa Fri 19-Oct-12 18:59:04

I don't think anybody actually has an issue with crossbred dogs themselves - just unregulated breeding, of any type of dog.

clam Fri 19-Oct-12 19:07:51

tabulahrasa I think you'll find that plenty of people on here do have an issue with crossbreeds!

I'll tell you what my issue is with them - that people seriously think we choose them for the bloody silly names. To my mind, that's the most embarrassing thing - having to admit mine's technically called a cockapoo. Two rude names in one. I tend to just say spaniel/poodle cross nowadays.

HoneyDragon Fri 19-Oct-12 19:09:26

Crossbreed fine. Accidents do happen. Situation isn't brilliant, but as long as owner takes proper responsibility than it's all good for the dog and the owner. Look at the poor mnetter whose dog came out of kennels pg.

Wanting a specific crossbreed "designer dog" and paying more than you would pay for a Pedigree that has been bred for the love of the breed, not so good. Pick a pedigree and investigate it. Don't hope for a magic dog that is the best of both breeds.

If you have a £1000 and really can't decide between a poodle and a retriever get one of each grin

HoneyDragon Fri 19-Oct-12 19:13:12

Oh and I don't blame the people who think they want these dogs. After all they've been led to believe they will be getting a healthier dog as its cross bred and a socialised puppy because its from a "family home".

I blame the perpetrators of those myths though.

WereTricksPotter Fri 19-Oct-12 19:24:44

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clam Fri 19-Oct-12 19:27:51

"led to believe?"
That implies that we're all dimwits who have no minds of our own in orer to be able to suss out facts/propeganda for ourselves.
I'm under no illusions about the health or otherwise of my dog. As it happens he's disgustingly chipper and in fine fettle. Also, he has the most fantastic temperament, but I like to think that that's because of how we've dealt with him. But he came out of the tin nice as well.

I accept that we may have just been lucky.

clam Fri 19-Oct-12 19:29:45

weretricks grin Been there, done that!

But if I had a pound for every time I've been stopped and had the Monstrous One cooed over and coveted I'd be a rich woman.

HoneyDragon Fri 19-Oct-12 19:33:33

Clam

I did not call any one a dimwit grin

But I don't think having a go at some one who has a "designer dog" as I have seen on FB very recently fair.

It's one of those things people are told as gospel. They are the healthier option.

Its just the same as when people say if you buy a pedigree you are guaranteed a dog with a good temperament.

WereTricksPotter Fri 19-Oct-12 19:34:42

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MeFour Fri 19-Oct-12 19:37:02

As all the dogs I've had have been cross breeds (rescue not intentional) I'm kind of biased

If I could pick a dog (rather than rescue) I would go for a lab collie cross every time.

I love my cross breed <ruffles bastard spaniel's ears>. I don't love the fact that he was bred on purpose so that the breeders could jump on the 'cute name' band wagon with no regard for his resulting health. I never refer to him as a 'sprocker', always a springer/cocker cross. I have seen 'sprockers' on Preloved being sold at £500-600 a pup. That's madness. I meet a lot of pups on the school run with cutesy 'designer' names. They are lovely dogs, but the prices some people are paying for a cross breed are shock.

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