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Puppy chewing EVERYTHING.

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D0oinMeCleanin · 14/09/2012 08:56

HELP!

Crate training is the obvious answer. I know this, but I do not have the money or space for a crate the size he would need, although saying that Whippy really could do with a new tray for her crate and/or a smaller crate since we thought she was a whippet and so bought a medium crate, meaning she now has a toileting area and a sleeping area in her crate Hmm so I could buy Whippy a smaller crate and give pup hers (with a new tray) but space issues means it would have to be folded down during the day - would crate training still work? How could you do it without the crate being up as his safe space during the day?

He has plenty to chew, I only bought him a new nyla bone yesterday to add to his Kong and his dental chew, plus he gets those marrow bone thingys you buy from pet shops.

He has plenty of exercise, 40 mins - 1hr on a morning half of this off lead and then another 20 mins off lead on a tea time. Plus 15 - 20 mins training most days. Two or three times a week he has a massive 2hr off lead walk, with five other dogs to tear about with, he also likes swimming during this time, so it is not, imo, an exercise issue.

It could be anxiety, but he shows no other signs of being anxious and is in the same room as Whippy, so not totally alone.

So far this week he has eaten two packed lunch boxes (as in the actual box, not the food from inside it - they were empty), a packet of loo rolls, a training lead, the laces off of my walking boots and a bottle of shampoo. Oh and I suspect it is him who is eating the pleather coating off my dining chairs.

He is a 10 month old Lurcher pup (Grey X with something)

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WTFwasthat · 14/09/2012 09:33

wow! that is some appetite he has GrinShock. I hope you get some help soon as I am not 'in the know'. It sounds like he is chewing pretty much the entire day, except when he is walking etc. I hope you get some help soon.

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D0oinMeCleanin · 14/09/2012 10:01

Yup. He's either chewing something he shouldn't be chewing or bouncing. I suspect he is part kangeroo Grin

I don't think I would cope with him if it wasn't for the pleasure I get in watching him off lead. His utter joy and enthusiasm for life is infectious. If I ever feel a bit down during the day I take him out for a run, he's sure to bring a smile to my face. He is really lovely apart from the chewing and jumping.

The bouncing is improving, he now understands I will not open a door until he is sitting/laying, so I am no longer mauled by him every time I need to leave the room. His chewing is getting worse Sad

I also think his last home hit him for chewing, when I found my boots in his bed and leaned down to "swap" them for something he is allowed, he tried to hide under the desk, cowering Sad He has never and will never be hit in my house.

On the bright side he has now learnt "down" watching him throw himself to the floor with great enthusiasm and then wag his tail furiously because he is so proud of himself is hilarious.

Can you tell I am going to have real problems giving him up when he finds his forever sofa? Sad

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Floralnomad · 14/09/2012 10:03

No idea how to help other than to say remove anything movable and try one of those anti chew sprays on the stuff you can't move. He hopefully will just grow out of it. I doubt a crate will make much difference unless you were planning to never let him out !

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D0oinMeCleanin · 14/09/2012 14:10

I'm fairly sure if I never let him out of the crate he would just eat his way out anyway Grin

When I am here during the day I can supervise and train, so he only gets chance to chew things he is not allowed for a minute or two before we swap.

It's on a night when we are sleeping that he destroys things. I wish my kids would learn to put things away. My boots were in the bathroom, but he has now learnt to open the bathroom door, where he will steal loo roll and toiletries to chew/shred.

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Floralnomad · 14/09/2012 14:19

Mine chewed anything papery or soft and we did crate overnight ,where he proceeded to chew holes in his blankets. In fact although he no longer has a crate ( he's 2) he still does not have dog beds because he still chews holes in them. He is now just confined in one area of the house when we are out and overnight and still chews his blankets. He has improved though because he no longer takes washing off the line to chew !

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mistlethrush · 14/09/2012 14:28

We got a 10mo collie cross and she chewed everything and anything - including shoes, slippers, and one day, all our toothbrushes, the toothpaste, shampoo, conditioner and finally footpowder - all of which was eventually found in a slimy mess on the landing.

We anticipated chewing when we got our current dog. So we got loads of chew toys. She wasn't a really big chewer, although her favourite things were knotted up old socks or tights (also make good tug toys) and a stick. I know, I know you're not meant to allow them sticks in case they get splinters etc and not meant to encourage them to chase them. So we managed to transfer the on-the-walk stick fixation onto a frisbee (which we also had a bag for so would have out for a throw for a bit, then put away so that she had some interaction with other dogs and sniffing around time before getting it out again) and we found what appeared to be a non-splintery fairly solid stick... in fact two - one for the garden and one for the house. Combined with the kong and her other official toys, this appeared to sort our current dog's needs for chewing very satisfactorily. If he's so keen on his 'down' trick, its worth seeing if you can teach him which things are 'his' rather than anyone else's and this might help to get him chewing the things you don't mind him chewing rather than the things he mustn't.

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D0oinMeCleanin · 14/09/2012 15:02

Ahem

Sorry MistleThrush Grin

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mistlethrush · 14/09/2012 15:12

He looks quite a character! Realistically, its not fair on mistledog to get another just yet - she's nearly 12 and really can't be doing with puppies (and she counts puppies as anything up to 3 depending upon their attitude). If we were getting a dog to go with her we'd have to get something black-lab ish as she's always had a soft spot for them!

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fairygnomi · 14/09/2012 18:19

My rescue puppy (we were his fourth home at 5 months) was a terrible chewer and we put of crate training him for ages; but when we did 'give in'; it was the best thing ever. He didnt chew when we were at home during the day; it was only daytime if we left him or night time - so i think it was a combination of boredom and anxiety. We crate trained him to be in the crate during the day when we had to leave him, and at bedtime; took about a week to get him used to it, and after that he loved it. (we got the largest crate available as he is an akita x - google for crates and you can get reasonable ones - ours was £40 - and definitely worth it). But we moved house the november after getting him the August, and there wasnt really room for the crate, so we gradually weaned him off the crate and onto his forever armchair in the window, and no chewing has happened since.
So although crate takes up room and costs (i weighed it up against the cost to replace the books, cds, and shoes he was working his way through) but it was definitely worth it.
good luck with him, he sounds adorable - charlie (my akita x) adores running with lurchers -one of the few dogs that can wear him out.
(off the subject kinda my other puppy 14 wks rotti x doesnt chew until im on the laptop and then she nibbles the edges until shes on my lap and not the laptop! a cute type of chewing)

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RedwingWinter · 14/09/2012 18:34

Just a thought, but if he cowers when you try to swap, maybe he is associating his chew toys with fear, rather than something good. You could try giving treats when he approaches or uses the chew toys, and feeding some of his meals from the kong (rather than just treats) so that he is using it more. Then he will learn to associate the chew toys with something good and will be more likely to seek them out when he is on his own too.

Incidentally, redirection/swapping with chew toys has been shown to significantly reduce inappropriate chewing, so you're doing the right thing with that. Isn't it awful when a dog has been hit before? Hopefully he will soon learn that you aren't going to hit him.

Crate-training could definitely help, since the problem occurs in your absence. In fact, a crate and lots of treats with the toys are part of Ian Dunbar's 'errorless chewtoy training' (here. Obviously you can't do this from the beginning since pup was with someone else then, but it might help you get back on track.

He is gorgeous.

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D0oinMeCleanin · 15/09/2012 09:30

It's not when we swap that he cowers, normally when I swap him something he is standing or stands up when he sees me and what he has is still in his mouth. So I don't need to lean down to him. I just swap. We initially taught swap using food, we'd swap him what he had for a treat and then once he taken the treat and we'd retrieved what he shouldn't have he was offered a toy of his own.

The time with the boots he was laying down and the boots were beside him, so I had to bend down to him, it was when I did that that he cowered, he must have thought I was leaning over to hurt him Sad

Feeding his dinner from a chew toy is a good idea. We might have to find something bigger than a Kong, however, he is one big puppy Grin

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RedwingWinter · 15/09/2012 20:10

He is big but he is gorgeous. I am surprised half of mumsnet isn't beating down your door already to adopt him!

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WTFwasthat · 15/09/2012 21:02

what is he Ddoing?

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D0oinMeCleanin · 15/09/2012 21:25

He is a lurcher. Greyhound crossed with I am not sure what. He came into rescue via the local pound so I am not sure the rescue know exactly what he is but he shouldnt grow too much bigger.

He is gorgeous and very loving and happy too.

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WTFwasthat · 15/09/2012 21:35

but a right little bugger by the sounds of him Grin. As I often say to my children when they are driving me to distraction, It's a good job I love you so much!"

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ssssh · 15/09/2012 22:06

We have a 6month old lurcher type from a rescue centre. He's the fourth dog I've had - they all chew as it's therapeutic for them (releases calming endorphins apparently) plus helps with teething. There isn't an easy way out of it, just keep swapping what he's taken with what he's allowed and watch like a hawk. This too shall pass...

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