Head control collars?

[HotchpotchHoney]

My 16 month old labrador/pointer cross pulls so much on his walks that the only way i can control him is with a lead looped over my whole body, even then he just manages to walk on his hind legs.
I've been googling the problem and it seems head collars are recommended as a training aid for this purpose.
my question is does anyone have any experience of the brands out there and can recommend one thast not going to hurt him or slip in anyway. for this reason i have discounted the halti.
Thank you

[WoodRose]

I use a "loopi" with my Springer. It is a lightweight harness which goes around the chest. He is very strong and his Halti didn't stop him from pulling at all. There has been a huge improvement in his walking (and my shoulder muscles ) since we started using the Loopi.

[WhereTheWildThingsWere]

I think the Loopi you mention would be a 'Lupi'.

Both head and body harnesses will help to control pullers, but it sounds like you have quite a problems there. Have you considered getting some training?

[HotchpotchHoney]

we have had puppy training classes. the problem we have is that he is one of three and very much likes to be the leader of the pack, the other two are a cairn terrier and a springer spaniel, he is the youngest and tbh is a complete nightmare to walk.
I use the stop and start tactic, so as soon as he pulls i stop, but this means i'm stopping every 3 or 4 steps as he just doesn;t stop pulling, hes so excitable.
I curently use a body harness as the trainer suggested he was pulling against the feeling of pressure of a conventional lead on his collar, so hes got a chest harness and one of those huge long leads in a big loop so it can go acorss my body so as to reduce pressure on my wrists. he also have some spring like device that is supposed to stop him pulling but it serves no purpose at all.
he doesn;t respond to heel or any other key words, and even with the stop start as soon as we start again he's off and practically on his hind legs again.
He's much nicer to walk after a long run around the woods and a game of flyball, its just a shame his excitedness at going for a walk ruins it all.
The other two dogs are brilliant and could easily walk along by my side without a lead, if they are running off in the woods and i call them back they all come back so hes not completley uncontrollable, its just the pulling when walking on a lead and he dashes off like a headless chicken when hes off the lead unless you are throwing a ball/frisbee for him.
Oh and he can do the non pulling walk in class but get him out to real open air and a real walk and he's back to square one.

[WhereTheWildThingsWere]

Do you get to spend time walking him alone?

Have a look at this Loose Leash Walking. All her clips are fab, she is a great trainer.

Simply stop starting without reversing or turning around can make dogs very frustrated and actually make pulling worse, I wouldn't recomend it.

[HotchpotchHoney]

walking alone isn't really possible might see if i cna get my sister to dog sit the other two so i can take him out alone.
two different trainers recommended the stop start method, so frustrating. will check out your link. thanks

[raindroprhyme]

We used a 'halti'(similar to the gentle leader) for our husky. The main reason being he has a chest halter for pulling so needed something completely different, so he associated it with walking to heel.
It was great as we were also told to do the stop start method and it was a nightmare.
So we tried the turn and walk in opposite direction tack it worked a treat and the halti was great as i could turn his head so we could do a total 180. The neighbours thought i was mad as the first time we did it i spent 20 minutes going backwards and forwards in front of the house.
Was really useful in the training classes to have him on the halti as i could turn his head to look at me when he got distracted by the other dogs.
HTH

[mrsHeadlessfred]

I haven't used one myself but I know that dogmatic headcollars have been recommended on here before.