Quick advice on why puppies shouldnt leave mum before 8 weeks

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oldienotamoldie Wed 15-Sep-10 12:18:27

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You should walk away immediately and have nothing to do with any of the people involved in this. By buying a puppy from these people, you are perpetuating the poor care and breeding, and future problems which are a headache to dog volunteers like Val, me and others, and the despair of reputable breeders, of whom there are many on MN.

If your ExH is continuing to threaten you, please report to police.

A pup should not leave its mum until a minimum of eight weeks - by leaving earlier, you are likely to have a dog that could be prone to health and socialisation problems later on in life.

If you are set on buying a pup, then get one only from a reputable KC registered breeder.

oldienotamoldie Wed 15-Sep-10 12:58:29

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Elsaz Wed 15-Sep-10 13:00:00

Scuttle is right, walk away. If the daughter is pissed off it's not your problem.

could you pay for it but not pick it up for two weeks?

get a receipt/photo of your specific pup if you do this

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magnolia74 Wed 15-Sep-10 13:03:56

A puppy learns a huge amount in the weeks it shares with it's mums and siblings, behaviour that will be needed to ensure it has the best possible start in life.
The mum doesn't just feed and let go, she will teach the pup how to behave, play, love etc...
Also staying with it's siblings for at least 8 weeks (I prefer 10!) plays a big part.

To be honest even if the owners now agreed to keep pup longer I wouldn't take it as I would be worried that mum would be seperated from pups regardless sad

oldienotamoldie Wed 15-Sep-10 13:07:49

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Elsaz Wed 15-Sep-10 13:11:36

sad more evidence that this person should not be breeding dogs.

oldienotamoldie Wed 15-Sep-10 13:12:15

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oldienotamoldie Wed 15-Sep-10 13:27:21

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oldienotamoldie Wed 15-Sep-10 13:40:50

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Lizcat Wed 15-Sep-10 13:55:44

There are very rare cases where I would advise pups going to their new homes as young as 6 weeks the last occasion was a litter of husky pups who had torn their mothers boobs to shreds - deep ulcers that took 6 weeks to heal- we did this for mums long term health. These pups had been eating solid food for 2 weeks and were very well grown, well socialised pups. I only recommended this to protect mum.
I would feel that anyone who is pressuising you to take a pup at a particular time is not an ideal person to get a pup from.

oldienotamoldie Wed 15-Sep-10 14:01:32

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Bella32 Wed 15-Sep-10 14:07:05

Not illegal to sell them at 6 weeks, but the breeders sound like the kind of people you wouldn't want to be involved with.

What kind of dog is it, OP?

oldienotamoldie Wed 15-Sep-10 14:10:17

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oldienotamoldie Wed 15-Sep-10 14:11:20

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Bella32 Wed 15-Sep-10 14:13:46

Good message. Sorry - I can't guess. I can be extraordinarily thick at times though grin

The main concern is the socialisation, but if the pups are hand reared that may already have been - um - compromised anyway. Depends how much contact the pups have had with mum...

Ripeberry Wed 15-Sep-10 14:14:07

Sounds like he wants your money and they want the pup out of the house angry.

Do you think they will harm it if you don't buy it? Could you not pay for it and say you'll pick it up in another two-three weeks?

Or do you think he will double cross you?

Staffie it has to be.

mamatomany Wed 15-Sep-10 14:17:17

Well at least the dog has had a hysterectomy so they shouldn't have any more puppies doing her head in
I assume this is accidental breeding rather than a pedigree in which case she has a bloody cheek charging and does she realise you will require a receipt for your payment and she will be open to court action if the puppy isn't healthy for it's lifetime ?
In accepting cash it becomes a business transaction and is covered by trading standards.

Clumsymum Wed 15-Sep-10 14:24:44

Oldie

Of course it isn't ideal to have a puppy that young, but it sounds to me like it will be seperated from the mother next week anyway, and sold to anyone who will pay for it. In which case at least you are a very caring person, from the sound of it.

I have taken an orphaned puppy on before now, she was about 5 weeks we think (eyes were still tinged blue). She had no socialisation problems, but we did need to feed her quite carefully.

She would have 2 meat/fish meals, slivers of grilled chicken with boiled rice, or fish with rice (I seem to remember buying fish fingers & taking off the bradcrumb coating !!), and two milk/cereal meals of BOILED milk and weetabix each day, moving onto puppy food gradually after 10 weeks or so.

It can be done, and is likely to lead to you having a VERY devoted dog, cos they are soooo much more reliant on you so early.

In your shoes, if you know the puppy is likely to be dumped with anyone ANYWAY, I'd consider it.

Clumsymum Wed 15-Sep-10 14:26:35

Oh, should have said, as long as you can devote the huge time and effort such a young puppy will take.

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