SCD 2013 #3: Three celebs down, who's next?

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PolkadotsAndMoonbeams Sun 27-Oct-13 14:02:56

Starting a new thread quickly before tonight's results show! We talk too much grin

Link to last thread

PolkadotsAndMoonbeams Sun 27-Oct-13 14:05:45

I like male Latin dancers to look very masculine too digerd. I like the idea of the man being the frame to show the lady off. When the man is a lot more active than the she is I think it can look a bit odd.

Just caught up on iPlayer this morning.

Tess's dress quite falttering for a change!

Also loved Deborah's dress - away from the granny sleeves, and that graudated black/ purple colourway was stunning.

Mark's waltz moved me to tears, so emotional. I know those with professional dance training get a tough time, but dance is about telling a story too, so the actors have a bit of an advantage there.

Dave as funny as ever, but he's not going to make the final.

Sophie a bit too cool and uninvolving.

Better from my girl Fiona, doing it for the elegant older ladies.

Natalie - amazing.

Out this week - maybe Rachel.

AmIthatHot Sun 27-Oct-13 14:44:13

I had a minor panic there when I saw the old thread wasn't accepting any more messages shock Thank you Polkadots

Did I really see someone saying they were warming towards Forsyth??

PolkadotsAndMoonbeams Sun 27-Oct-13 14:50:55

I've asked MNHQ if they can put a link to this thread on the end of the last one, so hopefully they'll do that and people will be able to find us.

Digerd there is a series of DWTS on at the moment. Having sought out Karina's Wikipedia page she gas a good record in the show, she's finished in the Top 5 eight times and won once with J R Martinez, who was the badly burned soldier that competed. She's got Corbin Bleu this year who was apparently in High School Musical <clueless>. Karina's page, there are lots of beautiful videos of her dancing on You Tube.

JaneEyresHeir Sun 27-Oct-13 16:17:00

Hurray! The new thread - thanks, Polkadots.

Melanie I loved Tess's dress this week, and agree that the colour combo for Deborah and Robin was fab. Sadly I think they might be in danger this week because of all that messing about with the table! I'd be sad to see her go, because she's enjoying it so much.

Think Fiona will be safe because of the Anton vote.

I love Mark and Iveta - he was so entertaining last week and as you said, very moving last night. Iveta's choreography is fab.

Really feel that Dave has had his day - but as I said on the last thread, I think the public will keep him in.

FushandChups Sun 27-Oct-13 17:26:29

JaneEyre - DD (4.5) got pretty obsessed with that table and every dance afterwards was asking whether there would be a table involved smile

I think Dave & Rachel with Dave (hopefully) doing the off... if he's there, it would be criminal for anyone else to leave unless all if a sudden he pulls out snake-hips and finds the beat - never gonna happen!

MrsBramleyApple Sun 27-Oct-13 19:24:28

I'm here! Slightly distracted by what sounded like a bomb going off at the front of the house! shock
Hope Ben gets through!!!

What is Claudia wearing ?

thistlelicker Sun 27-Oct-13 19:25:55

Coooeyyyy

Claudia looks like a salmon

CrazyOldCatLady Sun 27-Oct-13 19:26:38

Yes, Dave has to go. He should have gone before now! I don't even find him entertaining; he seems to have lost his cheery personality and developed a very unattractive chip on his shoulder.

Those costumes for the pros' dance were NOT flattering.

JaneEyresHeir Sun 27-Oct-13 19:27:42

Those costumes were weird.
As is Claudia's dress!

FushandChups Sun 27-Oct-13 19:27:57

Why don't they do recognizable dances when they start these days like a nice group quickstep? That wasn't bad but was a bit odd imo...

DD asked if Claudia was one of tess' (tesses ??) daughters grin

CoffeeRevel Sun 27-Oct-13 19:28:04

They do some lovely outfits on SCD, why can't they sort Claudia out? I luffa her, but her dresses....ugh

MrsBramleyApple Sun 27-Oct-13 19:28:21

Have just had a phone call to say the bomb was a rocket! It was so loud!

CoffeeRevel Sun 27-Oct-13 19:28:44

Luffa?? Meant luffa

Gooseysgirl Sun 27-Oct-13 19:29:32

Oh dear fashion car crash for Claudia tonight

CoffeeRevel Sun 27-Oct-13 19:29:33

Bloody iPad, it changed it just when I hit post! Luffs, luffs, luffs..

CrazyOldCatLady Sun 27-Oct-13 19:29:55

What does Darcey mean by 'it wasn't placed'?

CrazyOldCatLady Sun 27-Oct-13 19:32:49

OOOH! Not Rachel. I'm surprised.

MrsBramleyApple Sun 27-Oct-13 19:32:57

Rachel through.......... hmm

CrazyOldCatLady I missed the context Darcey used the phrase in, but I'd presume she means that someone is not fully extending their arms and using their hands correctly.

FushandChups Sun 27-Oct-13 19:33:12

I think the reason i feel very affectionate towards anton & brendan is because there seems to be too many newbies... sad even thought that James & Ola seemed so sweet in that group dance and have never felt like that before...

Rachel through shock

Deborah in the dance off sad

PolkadotsAndMoonbeams Sun 27-Oct-13 19:33:30

Ooh, I'd forgotten about them!

elcranko Sun 27-Oct-13 19:33:54

Deborah and Robin? shock

JaneEyresHeir Sun 27-Oct-13 19:34:09

Aww - poor Deborah.

She'll be so disappointed.

Dave should be the one to go. No musicality!

CoffeeRevel Sun 27-Oct-13 19:34:09

Oh, I like Deborah hmm

PolkadotsAndMoonbeams Sun 27-Oct-13 19:35:34

Claudia's dress! She'd better keep her knees together.

ProphetOfDoom Sun 27-Oct-13 19:35:58

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CoffeeRevel Sun 27-Oct-13 19:36:21

Showing a fair bit of thigh there, wasn't she!

CoffeeRevel Sun 27-Oct-13 19:37:01

Yup, hope she's against Dave, so she can stay

FushandChups Sun 27-Oct-13 19:37:09

love a bit of earth, wind & fire grin

JaneEyresHeir Sun 27-Oct-13 19:39:15

Me too Fush
Boogie Wonderland and September are my favourites!

PolkadotsAndMoonbeams Sun 27-Oct-13 19:39:26

I enjoyed that grin

And a nice chacha smile

CrazyOldCatLady Sun 27-Oct-13 19:39:45

CrazyOldCatLady I missed the context Darcey used the phrase in, but I'd presume she means that someone is not fully extending their arms and using their hands correctly.

Frankel, she said it about Ashley's jive, that 'it wasn't safe or placed' - and she meant it as a good thing.

Sorry, I'm a beginner at this stuff blush

JaneEyresHeir Sun 27-Oct-13 19:41:20

I love Claudia. Miss her on ITT sad

FushandChups Sun 27-Oct-13 19:44:06

i hate the way tess pronounces Ola... ffs angry

Ahh, in that case she meant that he wasn't just going through the motions and literally "placing" the steps, he was committing to them.

CrazyOldCatLady Sun 27-Oct-13 19:44:32

She read it wrong! That can't be right!

elcranko Sun 27-Oct-13 19:44:36

Dave and Karen are through?! What's going on?

MrsBramleyApple Sun 27-Oct-13 19:44:39

Cant believe that Dave is through!

ProphetOfDoom Sun 27-Oct-13 19:44:48

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CoffeeRevel Sun 27-Oct-13 19:44:55

Noooooo!

FushandChups Sun 27-Oct-13 19:45:09

Dave through shock

Patrick in dance off sad

Don't like the dance off this week!!

MrsBramleyApple Sun 27-Oct-13 19:45:11

BEN'S THROUGH!!!!!! smile

FushandChups Sun 27-Oct-13 19:45:53

Think this means bye to Deborah and i don't want that... sad

elcranko Sun 27-Oct-13 19:46:22

Ohhhh hmm

I like both the couples in the dance off.

JaneEyresHeir Sun 27-Oct-13 19:46:33

Dave's safe shock - well at least we don't have to see that ghastly dance again.

Shocked at Patrick in the dance-off. Don't think Deborah will survive now sad

CoffeeRevel Sun 27-Oct-13 19:46:46

What a shame, I think it's too early to say bye to Deborah hmm

ProphetOfDoom Sun 27-Oct-13 19:47:12

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Horsemad Sun 27-Oct-13 19:49:21

Who will go??????

CoffeeRevel Sun 27-Oct-13 19:49:52

Deborah, for definite

Patrick's song is much better suited to a Samba than a Salsa

elcranko Sun 27-Oct-13 19:53:17

I think Deborah too. Gutted because I adore Robin hmm

FushandChups Sun 27-Oct-13 19:53:28

Patrick was better tbf ... soooo

elcranko Sun 27-Oct-13 19:55:14

hmm

Minimammoth Sun 27-Oct-13 19:55:17

Aw.

pinkteddy Sun 27-Oct-13 19:55:18

Gutted for Deborah sad

PolkadotsAndMoonbeams Sun 27-Oct-13 19:56:07

Aww sad

JaneEyresHeir Sun 27-Oct-13 19:56:10

He was Fush but Deborah was SO much better than Dave!

But that's Strictly for ya.

Love Robin <sniff>

Oh Robin sad

Everyone that dances with him says they've made a friend for life.

MrsBramleyApple Sun 27-Oct-13 19:56:25

Robin in tears........... sad

Minimammoth Sun 27-Oct-13 19:56:40

I hope she keeps dancing.

digerd Sun 27-Oct-13 19:56:41

What a travestyshock at the viewers voting. Dave should have been in the dance off.

Impomea Sun 27-Oct-13 19:56:46

I blame that table !

areyoubeingserviced Sun 27-Oct-13 19:57:02

Sad that Debra has gone. Her love of dance was infectious.

Horsemad Sun 27-Oct-13 19:59:37

Aww, sad Deborah's gone. It was so nice how she really loved dancing.

dementedma Sun 27-Oct-13 20:01:59

Fuck am gutted! I LOVE Robin- he seems to be the lovliest man and such a hot dancer.

Horsemad Sun 27-Oct-13 20:02:53

Just thought, Grimsby isn't that far from me, could have a dance class with Kevin if he's doing them... grin

Rosa Sun 27-Oct-13 20:03:09

Even I am no dance expert could see Dave was soooo out of step / time ...rather like that Eastenders chap that went through to the final or did he win many years ago???
Sorry to see Deborah leave she really did love it !
Dd said Claudia looked like Peppa Pig in a sack...

awaynboilyurheid Sun 27-Oct-13 20:10:11

She did enjoy it but she would never got to the final and she didn't take it well did she, used to getting her own way maybe, Dave is not a dancer but its great entertainment my mum and I needed a laugh on sat and he provided it. Rachel loves it too but sadly not a dancer she stomps around too much but do feel sorry for her she doesn't know what she is doing wrong but the judges don't want to say you just can't dance.

Badgerwife Sun 27-Oct-13 20:14:59

What the HELL just happened? I was fully expecting Dave and Rachel in the dance-off, this is so so wrong. That's it, I'm voting next week, enough of this shambles

FushandChups Sun 27-Oct-13 20:30:08

All those saying that whilst Patrick was better, Deborah wasn't the worst dance are so right... so far away from my bottom two but they did make the right choice out of the two sad

Robin seems just so lovely and i think strictly for him is very much about having as much fun as possible & getting his partner to love dancing - which Deborah clearly did. can't think whether he's ever had a contender...? Perhaps next year will be the one...?

FushandChups Sun 27-Oct-13 20:32:15

and Rosa - you're thinking if Chris Parker who did make the final if the first series but thankfully didn't win (lost to Natasha Kaplinsky!).. in his defence, i found him much more likable and significantly more attractive than Dave!

JaneEyresHeir Sun 27-Oct-13 20:33:41

Just checked Fush and he was eliminated in week 9 with Patsy Kensit and Anita Dobson, and stayed till week 11 with Lisa Riley.

Pan Sun 27-Oct-13 20:36:54

Just seen this - it was a travesty. Patrick was galloofering round the floor with concrete hips - Anya was working v hard. At least Deborah danced the dance.

ppeatfruit Sun 27-Oct-13 20:39:00

Thanks for the new thread polka Well WTF were the public thinking about? Dave can barely stand let alone dance!! Both couples in the dance off were better than that big Rugby guy and Mark whathisname? Even the judges looked very sheepish as did Tess and Claud (WTF was Tess wearing?) it looked about 5 sizes too big for her shock

MintyChops Sun 27-Oct-13 20:44:27

Grrrrrrr!!! So ridiculous that that dancing monkey Dave is still in, the public are chumps!

ppeatfruit Sun 27-Oct-13 20:49:34

Duh I didn't mean Tess's dress of course (though that looked a touch tight on her!) I meant Claud's sack number.yyyminty

elcranko Sun 27-Oct-13 21:03:50

I really hope that next year Robin is paired with someone who has the potential to win.

elcranko Sun 27-Oct-13 21:05:01

I agree re Claudia's dress - wtf? IMO she needs to wear something a bit more fancy, she looks a bit out of place amongst all the sparkle and glitter.

RedPencils Sun 27-Oct-13 21:05:43

Aw what a shame. Think Deborah had a few more weeks in her. She would probably have beaten Rachel, Dave and Fiona. Shame it was against Patrick.

I love Robin, always so lovely with his slebs. He's gound his niche with the mid table mature ladies. Love that he didn't turn her into the comedy routine.

Rachel is going to have to up her game next week. She was almost Dave bad.

CloudOfStarlings Sun 27-Oct-13 23:03:03

So sad to see Deborah go sad it wasn't her time.. I really like Dave but I fear this will now be the start of John Sergeant-style rage from the public at his staying in, which I always find a bore.

I'm glad to see you're all coming round to my way of thinking about Brendan but hands off grin
His dance with Aliona was fab but I want to see him back with Natalie Lowe! Will Aliona just be ditched from pro dances once Natalie Lowe is back??

CloudOfStarlings Sun 27-Oct-13 23:04:02

Oh & yes agreed that Robin definitely needs a contender next year! He more than deserves it.

Choccyjules Sun 27-Oct-13 23:20:46

My mum said Claudia looks like a dinner lady, absolutely no offence to dinner ladies but I know what she means

Choccyjules Sun 27-Oct-13 23:22:17

Looks like a uniform

ilovesooty Mon 28-Oct-13 01:11:19

Oh dear. Poor Deborah and the wrong two couples in the dance off. Surely Dave 's time must be nearly up?

I think Natalie said on ITT that she'll be back in group dances in about 2-3 weeks, so I presume Aliona will be off then.

mrsjay Mon 28-Oct-13 09:06:39

I was gutted for them Robin bless him was so upset patrick just sort of hoofed about hoping for the best i know he had hurt his arm I just don't get it, confused

mrsjay Mon 28-Oct-13 09:08:28

TBF Lisa RIley nearly went to the finals last year

Snowstorm Mon 28-Oct-13 09:35:49

Poor Deborah ...

ppeatfruit Mon 28-Oct-13 09:59:35

Though wtf was that table bit of Deb's dance? IMO Robin lost the plot there.

mrsjay Mon 28-Oct-13 10:00:07

yeah I agree it was the daft table routine there was no need for it imo

birdbrain21 Mon 28-Oct-13 10:59:51

just caught up on iplayer (was out last night) can't believe it, I mean I don't swear but all sorts of things are coming into my head now how on earth did the lovely debra and robin end up leaving when dave who clearly can't dance and his banana eating partner are still in although I'm sure karen isn't really as annoying as she seems if she's engaged to kevin from grimsby! this is a dancing competition not how many stupid faces can they pull!!!!

killpeppa Mon 28-Oct-13 11:03:23

Rachel! full as dishwatergrin

killpeppa Mon 28-Oct-13 11:03:36

dull*

mrsjay Mon 28-Oct-13 11:05:43

I love that they are all now calling him Kevin from grimsby grin

TheHeadlessLadyofCannock Mon 28-Oct-13 11:13:06

The result was a travesty. The Dave novelty has well and truly worn off for me; it stops being funny or endearing when it starts forcing off better dancers.

I liked that Deborah didn't try to put a brave smile on and was happy to look pissed off in front of the nation grin.

I really don't get the Patrick love from the judges. To me his legs and feet look plankish and heavy and his arms gangly and unwieldy. Wasn't sorry to see him in the dance-off but was expecting it to be him and Rachel, who was rubbish.

I thought nearly everyone was a bit underwhelming this week, TBH. Even Natalie's samba didn't really take off and I don't feel the 'chemistry' between Abbey and Aljaz the judges go on about.
Sophie was overmarked –stiff, half-hearted, wooden legs like a clothes peg doll.
Ashley also overmarked: sloppy feet and often bad arms.
Mark was sweet.
Fiona MUCH better and her acting was tip-top. A charming and sparkly dance.
Ben was a bit plankish but OK.
LOVED Susanna. She and Kev are a joy to watch. Highlight of this weekend for me. Oh, apart from Earth Wind and Fire of course. grin

mrsjay Mon 28-Oct-13 11:16:26

I dont see the A n A chemistry either i think they just look for things to say really and they are a good looking couple i spose, there is more chemistry between anton and fiona he luffs her than anybody else imo

AmIGoingMad Mon 28-Oct-13 11:27:01

Theheadlesslady you've just summed up my exact thoughts on this weeks show!

CloudOfStarlings Mon 28-Oct-13 11:46:57

There is no chemistry between Abbey & Aljaz, the judges are just blinded by how supposedly good-looking they are. There's way more chemistry between Susanna/Kevin Iveta/Mark and even Dave/Karen.

And yeah Lisa Riley made the semis but still doesn't count as a 'contender' in the same way Kimberley/Denise/Louis were.

TheHeadlessLadyofCannock Mon 28-Oct-13 12:01:08

<<fistbumps Mad>>

Glad I'm not the only one puzzled by the 'chemistry'. I agree Anton and Fiona, Susanna and Kevin, Iveta and Mark and Dave and Karen all have better relationships and are nicer couples to watch.

ppeatfruit Mon 28-Oct-13 12:41:55

Agree basically the Headless Susanna and Kev are lovely as are Fiona and Anton they seem to enjoy it so much. Does anyone know if Natalie has had proper dance training and if she's talked about it because she really seems like a pro to me?

Apparently Natalie's CV (which several newspapers obtained via her agent) says she is "an accomplished dancer" and that she studied Latin, Tap, Jazz, etc.

She says she hadn't danced for 10 years, but to me there is a vast difference between someone who last danced as a teenager (as she did) and someone who did a year or so of ballet as a 5yo. Anyone who has danced as a teen/adult will have taken in a lot more about technique and musicality.

AmIGoingMad Mon 28-Oct-13 13:09:52

Definitely. Yes she's good but she's definitely got an unfair advantage.

birdbrain21 Mon 28-Oct-13 13:12:27

I think mark and iveta are one of the best couples ever, he's funny, tells a story well and can actually dance quite nicely as for the 'cold hard lithuanian woman' who's iveta trying to kid she seems lovely! Hope they do really well smile

ppeatfruit Mon 28-Oct-13 13:13:50

Thanks frankel It's soo obvious that she's done ballroom to a high level; someone on STT said that the contestants are in competition with themselves which would be fine but of course but they're also competing with all the others confused

But it can never be a level playing field (and we say this every single year....)

Many actors and actresses will have had some stage school training, including dance.

The actors will be good at telling the story of the dance.

The sportspeople have great levels of fitness and stamina.

The models look good in lycra.

And there's always someone who the public love, even if they can't dance, and who stays in the contest much longer than if the dancers were voted off based solely on ability.

But that's the way the programme is. It relies on public voting - otherwise why not just go with the jduges scores each week. The John Sargeant/Anne Widdicombe/ Dave Myers personality makes for great telly, and has people talking about the show.

mrsjay Mon 28-Oct-13 13:31:56

Alesha Dickson was a dancer too and she won didn't she I suppose if they go to stage school then they can dance I dont think Natilie will win she doesn't seem warm enough IYSWIM it is like DVO the other year people didnt seem to warm to her enough

I think the key with Natalie is that she has actually studied Latin dance, so has an unfair advantage over the others who have to learn from scratch.

At least the previous competitors/winners had never done Ballroom/Latin specifically.

birdbrain21 Mon 28-Oct-13 14:11:47

melanie I agree it won't be a level playing field, I think it is nice to have people who can dance anyway as it is lovely to watch, but personally I find Dave irritating with his whole 'look at me I know I can't dance but I think I'm funny' act when lovely people like deborah get voted out because robin tried to teach her to dance instead of turning her into a comedy routine...

TheHeadlessLadyofCannock Mon 28-Oct-13 14:14:33

Agree 100%, birdbrain.

FushandChups Mon 28-Oct-13 14:54:32

Here Here birdbrain - but has always been this way and i am not yet as fucked off with Dave as i was with Widdy who genuinely thought she deserved her place every week (but then maybe she did as she could only stay with the public vote)

Argh - these people never actually make it to the final (except the aforementioned Chris Parker!) so at least that's something confused

PolkadotsAndMoonbeams Mon 28-Oct-13 15:05:25

I did stage dance before ballroom and it did help in terms of picking up steps/routines and performance, but it doesn't really help a great deal with technique and working with a partner.

I suppose your body is more likely to do what you ask it to, but some of the technique takes a long time to pick up, especially in Latin. I still have to concentrate hard to get a good hip action, and my samba action isn't good. Having done Latin before is a massive (and I would say, unfair) advantage.

ppeatfruit Mon 28-Oct-13 15:08:06

I think the final was interesting last year because the gymnast who won had been on a 'journey' which DVO hadn't, so the public and judges prefer that to perfect trained celeb. That makes it much fairer IMO.

PolkadotsAndMoonbeams Mon 28-Oct-13 15:13:39

Not stage dance, theatre dance.

mrsjay Mon 28-Oct-13 15:22:58

I agree with you Birdbrain I do like dave well the hairy bikers but this i am giving it a go mamlarky gets on my wick they are all giving it a go and getting better ,

digerd Mon 28-Oct-13 15:23:30

Frankel
As Nalatie has studied Latin, then all the more of a failure her samba bounce was. The way she dances is very balletic - always pulled up in her upper body. For Latin it needs more of an earthy and writhing movement. Samba should have a gay abandonment feel and bounce with the upper body often moving forwards from the waist.
Ballroom should be easy for her so long as she does her heel leads which in stage dance is never done.
With Abbey and Nat, it is all staged with no feeling coming within.
Aleisha shone with feeling from within, despite not being highly trained like Natalie.
Abbey doesn't look highly trained to me. Nat does, but too much performance and not enough natural expression and pure enjoyment.
Off my soap box nowgrin

mrsjay Mon 28-Oct-13 15:26:03

my dh was sitting on his ipad and looked up on saturday when Natalie and artem were on and asked who the pro was so not that my dh is any authority on dancing but he didnt know

mrsjay Mon 28-Oct-13 15:27:11

Thing is these celebs are asked and paid to go on I think the producers want at least a few who can actually dance or viewers might get bored if they were all Daves wouldnt they

ppeatfruit Mon 28-Oct-13 15:37:25

Of course mrsjay that's why there are some who eventually get there who are more interesting to watch than the trained ones though it's good to have variety as you say. IMO There are too many planky Daves in this year's.

ppeatfruit Mon 28-Oct-13 15:39:45

I hope a woman wins this year and I hope it's Susanna and Kevin (he's a cute Harry Potter type too!).

mrsjay Mon 28-Oct-13 15:48:42

I didnt like last years winner i thought MEH

mrsjay Mon 28-Oct-13 15:49:21

I wanted Kimberly to win

CloudOfStarlings Mon 28-Oct-13 19:07:34

digerd you're spot on about Abbey and Natalie! No feeling, no raw passion, just very perfectly rehearsed and placed. Susanna radiates joy when she's dancing. (and I didn't even like her at all on BBC breakfast before this)

And mrsjay I agree about Louis Smith - meh! Never connected with any of their dances. I confess I was behind Dani & Vincent almost from the start but once she went out, Kimberley was definitely my next fave, she should've won really.

fush yes Widdy technically 'deserved' her place (because as you say, otherwise why have a public vote, everyone deserves their place because we get to choose) BUT she was very indignant and righteous about it "well the public WANT me here" all the time in her interviews, thinking she was doing us some sort of favour with her 'hilarious' routines. Dave is a lot more genuine and his partnership with Karen a LOT more fun to watch.

JaneEyresHeir Mon 28-Oct-13 19:41:17

Did anyone see Deborah and Robin on ITT?
So sad that they're out sad but what a lovely
interview. How fabulous that they are going to
keep dancing together and that Deborah's husband
has been taking dance lessons <sweet>.

'Twas good to catch a glimpse of Robin without
his shirt in the behind the scenes footage <swoon>.

ilovesooty Mon 28-Oct-13 20:54:05

Robin might be a good teacher and a niceguy but he isn't a top choreographer and that showed over the past two weeks. Still sorry about last night's result though.

I think Anton and Fiona might be in trouble the next time she has to dance Latin.

ppeatfruit Mon 28-Oct-13 21:18:20

Yes janeEyres I like STT with Zoe Ball who I reckon would make a better presenter on Sat. than Claud (somehow she doesn't seem camp enough for it) or Bruce (even if he has got new lenses and a slower autocue grin)

Deborah dragon comes across as a genuine person who was robbed IMHO.

digerd I agree Natalie dances in a very balletic fashion, and definitely agree that her Samba lacked bounce. When you compare her Rumba with Ben's with same week, whilst hers was more technically correct Ben's had more feeling. He definitely appeared to tick the "vertical expression of a horizontal desire" better than Natalie did!

mrsjay Tue 29-Oct-13 08:47:54

And mrsjay I agree about Louis Smith - meh! Never connected with any of their dances. I confess I was behind Dani & Vincent almost from the start but once she went out, Kimberley was definitely my next fave, she should've won really.

I loved Danni and I really wanted her to win so yes I switched to kimberly after that,

ppeatfruit Tue 29-Oct-13 09:04:33

I was meh about Louis to start with but he was just scared (very young too) and gradually seemed to show his personality which seemed to be low key and sweet IMHO.

I do agree that Kimberley and Dani were robbed though.

ppeatfruit Tue 29-Oct-13 09:05:34

Too many 'seemed' sorry grin

TheHeadlessLadyofCannock Tue 29-Oct-13 09:24:09

I never got very interested in Dani. Not sure why, just didn't really enjoy her dancing.

Kimberley was great until her showdance, which was just like watching someone shimmying about in a club. Shimmying WELL, granted, but I wanted more of the ballroom and Latin techniques she'd learned and to see her actually dancing with her partner more.

I liked Louis once he got over his self-consciousness. Their showdance was fab.

mrsjay Tue 29-Oct-13 09:27:32

I think LOuis charrelston was amazing i loved it and I think that is when people started to warm to him and his show dance was spectacular and made me cry still wanted kimberly to win though

ppeatfruit Tue 29-Oct-13 09:36:54

I suppose I'll have to vote to get a woman to win this year won't I? grin Won't we grin?

mrsjay Tue 29-Oct-13 09:38:03

yes dear we will grin

not sure who though

ppeatfruit Tue 29-Oct-13 09:50:09

I like Susanna and Sophie; I do like Fiona too, but not sure she has the stamina to reach the finals

mrsjay Tue 29-Oct-13 09:54:42

I think Sophie might win not sure though depends on the voting doesn't it it is always close the last few weeks,

digerd Tue 29-Oct-13 09:55:16

I still loved Harry. I saw his raw potential, but he was so shy and serious about it at first but how he blossomed over the weeks was thrilling.
<and he was so cutesmile>

CloudOfStarlings Tue 29-Oct-13 09:55:28

Yes Louis was sweet & I did love their Charleston but I was just never wowed by them..personal taste isn't it. I loved loads of Dani's dances, especially her salsa, fusion (the ONLY fusion that was any good or made any sense imo, charleston/quickstep. I so hope they're not bringing fusion back this yr) and her Viennese waltz.

Susanna or Sophie to win this year for me, definitely. Want Sophie that little bit more cos I adore Brendan & would love him to be the first pro to win twice.

I realised last night they haven't brought the Argentine tango in yet, it's been there v early the last few years, so maybe they've realised we'd all much rather see it later on when it can be done much better!

I also had a little giggle to myself last night imagining Abbey Clancy having to do a Charleston. That'll be ..interesting!

mrsjay Tue 29-Oct-13 09:58:29

I think Louis bless him it was the year of the olympians wasn't it and he got lucky imo

PolkadotsAndMoonbeams Tue 29-Oct-13 10:35:15

See I was unusual last year, I liked Denise best. I thought she was a bit more interesting! And one of the best dancers.

Kimberley was a nice dancer, but a bit boring. Dani wasn't as good a dancer and I was fed up of the whole 'they're so short!' bit. Louis didn't really have much of a personality...

But I do like Flavia, so was glad they won.

ppeatfruit Tue 29-Oct-13 12:16:13

Bleedin' beeb2 I'm stuck in front of it from Eggheads till after MasterGBBO grin I'll do some mending!

FushandChups Tue 29-Oct-13 15:27:23

A friend knows Louis very well (if you know what i mean grin) and said he was pretty shy but genuinely a really nice man. Monkseal summed up his and Flavia's partnership perfectly - like mother & son which always made me laugh but was so true!

Anyway, i was happy he won although i think Kimberly was always the best Girl Aloud and would have been a worthy winner - gorgeous, funny and just seems so low maintenance (my friends cousin is her fiance!)

I sound like i move in fancy circles but i really don't!

digerd Tue 29-Oct-13 16:12:31

I thought you just liked name dropping grin

birdbrain21 Tue 29-Oct-13 16:35:56

I liked louis but found flavia a bit annoying! I wamted danni to win mainly to see vincents reaction!! This year apart from mark and iveta who I don't actually think will win I haven't really got any faves yet ashley and ola seem quite decent, as long as it isn't an annoying pro like kristina don't really mind any of the celebs, although do see my comment ^ about dave!

Has monkseal done this week yet?

PolkadotsAndMoonbeams Tue 29-Oct-13 17:49:16

The summaries are up, but not the full review yet.

FushandChups Tue 29-Oct-13 19:56:11

grin That's it unfortunately! And not even my claims to fame!

I do like to hold out for the full Monkseal but it normally is ready on Wednesday so might have a look in a bit!

digerd Tue 29-Oct-13 21:11:45

Karen Hardy was on ITT tonight. She demonstrated <sort of> the proper samba bounce but couldn't do it properly in those killer heeled stiff and thick platform shoesconfused. And her little girl stiff mushroom shaped skirt had no movement in it - no swishing and flipping. It was the Botta Fogos - not sure of the spelling.

HappyMummyOfOne Tue 29-Oct-13 21:29:10

Cant abide Sophie so hope she doesnt win, Abby and Natalie seem to be very serious whereas i like people who enjoy it. Doesnt leave many left so will have to go with one of the guys. In a dream world in would ba Anton as he usually gets voted out very early every season.

mrsjay Tue 29-Oct-13 21:42:36

fushandchups GET YOU grin

ppeatfruit Wed 30-Oct-13 08:32:25

Blimey digerd I thought she was in boots they had zips round the ankle? weird they were confused what with the outfit and the botox I reckon she's reliving her lost youth (i can talk but I'm not on't telly thlgrin)

yesbutnobut Wed 30-Oct-13 14:17:21

I though Karen Hardy was spot on last night about Sophie - I thought she was over marked on Saturday as her cha cha was rather 'floppy'. Also about Abbey who again I thought was over marked - she pointed out the gapping between her and her partner (can't remember his name!).

FushandChups Wed 30-Oct-13 14:41:59

Monkseal's latest

Haven't had a chance to read it but thought would see if it was there. I really need to get out more!

PolkadotsAndMoonbeams Wed 30-Oct-13 14:44:02

Aljaž. Some of them have really dodgy holds this year I think.

Or it could just be I'm noticing other people's more, because I've been nagged about mine!

ppeatfruit Wed 30-Oct-13 16:50:43

Thanks for Monkseal Fush It takes a lot of reading I'd recommend it for anyone who missed some or all of last week's. grin

YYY yesbut

digerd Wed 30-Oct-13 17:22:07

Polkadots
Just noticed your link to that video last Sunday - cringe. ' Oh look at me, I am so gorgeous and brilliant'. Really OTT and off-putting. I found his dancing rather grotesque tbh.
ppeat
Didn't notice the botox or the zips, I was a bit confused by her <no way could anybody dance in those platforms> shoes.

MsInterredInCrypt Wed 30-Oct-13 17:33:01

Oh I love the Karen Hardy bits on ITT. I didn't watch scd when he was a pro on the regular show, more fool me! From what lots of you say, the main show had a lot more focus on the training/steps etc then too.

Flavia was good in Karen's spot last week too, wasn't she? (behind the times, in more ways than one, sorry...)

PolkadotsAndMoonbeams Wed 30-Oct-13 17:55:51

I wonder if she's less experienced than him, so their routines are designed so you focus on him more? They dance youth, so must be under 19 shock

Although I was once told that ladies competing from 16-35 aim to look about 25 grin

digerd Wed 30-Oct-13 18:18:30

I really was not able to look at her as soon as he began to dance . He completely overshadowed her and I couldn't watch for long as was put off by himsad. He was putting his all into his dancing, but was OTT.
Didn't realise they were youths.
At 35 I think we all aimed to look 25grin

TheHeadlessLadyofCannock Wed 30-Oct-13 18:37:41

Who are we talking about? Who dances youth?

Sorry to be the old dear in a corner with an ear-trumpet grin

PolkadotsAndMoonbeams Wed 30-Oct-13 20:04:20

Oh, we were talking about male dancers looking masculine whilst dancing Latin, and I said how I'd been told the man's job is to make the 'frame' for the lady being the 'picture'. I posted this link of how strange it can look when the man does a lot more than the girl. They're a Russian youth couple, so 16-19 years old.

I have to take issue, a bit, with what Karen said about not having time to teach the celebs things like the correct bounce action in the samba (or CBMP in Ballroom) - I'm sorry, but they are integral to the dance itself! If you can't teach it even in a basic fashion then a) rethink your choreography and maybe take out some of the unnecessary faffing about and b) have a look at your teaching abilities!

I've been taught about the bounce action from day 1 of learning Samba, it's not an after-thought, it has to be built into the foundations of knowledge.

<gets off high horse>

CloudOfStarlings Wed 30-Oct-13 22:41:19

I didn't see Karen this week but what you say makes perfect sense frankel - bit weird that she said that?!

msinterred EVERYTHING used to be better about Strictly pre-series 7 and 'evil Moira Ross' (copyright monkseal)

Have to say I'm holding my breath about dreaded Halloween week.. yes yes the costumes & makeup are great but waste of time VTs & stupid gimmicky dances Grr wanders off muttering angrily about Scooby-doo themed cha chas

MsInterredInCrypt Wed 30-Oct-13 22:50:59

Can you give a dimwit a quick guide to evil Moira Ross? Was it her wot dumped Arlene then?

I'll happily bow to anyone with greater since knowledge than I (er, that'll be everyone on the thread then...) but I thought it was interesting what Karen said after the bit about the samba bounce. She thought the pros should be teaching them more content and challenging routines, was that right? I can't remember exactly now but I remember thinking it sounded good. Maybe just bc it was re Craig being overly picky. On the whole I respect his views and comments but stimes it feels like he's trying to put a plaster in a broken leg - 'you're heel lead was limp' (told you I know nuffink!) when it seems more pressing issues of hold and rhythm would be better addressed?!

Ooh, I'm ranting now!

MsInterredInCrypt Wed 30-Oct-13 22:52:09

*greater DANCE knowledge than I

blush

PolkadotsAndMoonbeams Thu 31-Oct-13 01:03:49

I think it's hard on Strictly- like rumba for example the hip action is a big part of it but isn't a natural feeling, so I can see how it's easier to get them to 'wiggle' a bit and hope for the best, rather than focus on the mechanics of it in just one week.

Some things like the heel leads are really worth doing; (a) because it's correct and (b) because they're easy to see and it's generally easier to get somebody to remember to do a heel lead than to dance in time if they really struggle to find a beat.

I also think if they're struggling to learn a dance they should do a bit more practising rather than going roller blading/to a football pitch/to a boardroom. I don't mind something a bit different happening, like if they go to a social dance club or have friends and family come to training (I'm pretty sure Gethin went zorbing before his VW), but the sake of doing something different for the sake of it every single week irritates me.

Series Seven was when it became gimmicky really, new pros, new dances and the start of the costumes and props. And mark inflation...

They're trying to turn it into DWTS. The worst part of that is that I've seen, in the past at least, them make musical slebs dance to their own songs <shudders at the cheese>

Polkadots, I remember what you refer to Karen saying, I think it was in reference to Mark's Waltz and CBMP. She said he was stiff and none of the judges picked up on his lack of CBMP which is what caused the stiffness (I'm sure Len would have lived to say something but they've probably told him not to use technical terms!). Karen spent a minute or so talking about how important use of CBMP is in Ballroom only to then say, "but you don't have time to teach it" hmm

I get that it's something that can't be learnt in a few days, but if they at least make an attempt to build it in from the start of the series, each Ballroom dance would get progressively better as it applies right through - it is also used in Paso Doble.

Sorry, I should have explained to non-dance folk that CBMP is Contra-Body Movement Position. It is basically where your top half continues to face your partner, while your feet face point in another direction.

Definition

ppeatfruit Thu 31-Oct-13 09:11:20

Frankel sorry to sound thick but what is DWTS? I do wish that the beeb could keep it's good popular programmes and not fiddle with them to go downmarket with them .Let the others come UP to their standard.

TheHeadlessLadyofCannock Thu 31-Oct-13 09:19:03

Thanks Polka. He DOES look a bit ridiculous, doesn't he? grin

Frankel, I completely agree about CBMP and the samba bounce. They're not add-ons, they're basic building blocks, surely?

CloudOfStarlings Thu 31-Oct-13 09:23:22

YES frankel and YES ppeat...totally agree with both of you on those points. Particularly the stupid VTs! Really makes me angry that these slebs who don't have much time (particularly Susanna/Ashley etc who are still working full time too) are made to spend a day/a few hours filming stupid VTs! Just show us their training FGS!

pp DWTS= Dancing With The Stars, the American version of SCD.

PolkadotsAndMoonbeams Thu 31-Oct-13 09:27:59

DWTS is Dancing with the Stars- the American format of Strictly.

I haven't seen Karen yet, but that does sound really odd about CBMP. It makes dancing so much easier! It's one of those things that even if you can't always get it right, knowing it's there and trying to do it at least some of the time really helps. And of course you're right, over the whole series with it repeated across the dances they should really have improved by the end.

ppeatfruit Thu 31-Oct-13 09:31:18

Thanks cloud thlgrin Surely if it's a franchise belonging to the beeb they should call the shots shouldn't they?

Theheadless Of course being decapitated you would be rather deaf wouldn't you? thlgrin

TheHeadlessLadyofCannock Thu 31-Oct-13 10:07:39

ppeat, yes, it has its downsides grin

The Beeb seems to sell Strictly all over the world but with a great deal of freedom for other countries to make it their own.

My teacher spends half her time in Greece and was invited along to sit in the audience for the Greek version of SCD (also called DWTS), she said the "Pro's" were so bad she sometimes couldn't tell who was supposed to be the beginner and who the expert!

Snowstorm Thu 31-Oct-13 17:52:55

One of the male pros had a big club hand on his celebrity dancer's back the other week but I can't remember which one it was ... Craig's always such a stickler for these things that it surprises me when I see the professionals doing it.

CloudOfStarlings Thu 31-Oct-13 19:56:34

Have people seen this about Natalie Gumede possibly having injured herself again? Quite interesting.

digerd Thu 31-Oct-13 21:35:04

Saw bits of ITT tonight and Rachel's American smooth did not look good, but they tend to play it down until the performance. I hope so for Rachel's sake that on the night she will sparkle and amaze mehmm.

I remember Karen Hardy saying that in the ballroom the first and easiest technique to master is the "no gapping in hold" and that still too many are gapping. That is taught as the basics before heel leads she said.

digerd Thu 31-Oct-13 21:41:24

I think I really mean *for Pasha's sake*smile

digerd Thu 31-Oct-13 21:42:38

Hmm. Let's try that again. for Pasha's sake.

ppeatfruit Fri 01-Nov-13 10:36:53

That's interesting Frank you don't ever hear them criticising the pros shock but maybe they should (possibly behind the scenes to save their faces!).

ppeatfruit Fri 01-Nov-13 10:43:15

Sorry I meant snowstorm.

Digerd The thing with the 'gapping' ;it must be difficult if you have a jealous partner who's watching you intently while dancing and thinking all those jealous thoughts grin

digerd Fri 01-Nov-13 15:31:01

Patrick is bad at this, but because he is so tall in comparison to his partner, I would think her hips must be lower than his? I think it must be a quite embarrassing for the celebs.
Male and female, especially with Anton < that rumour in his light coloured trousers> grin
Good thing Christina is much shorter than Ben as otherwise her big boobies would be in his face when she leans backgrin. Same thing applies to Ben as with Patrick in the ballroom hold.hmm

ppeatfruit Fri 01-Nov-13 16:37:54

I'm surprised that the wooden male celebs like Dave and Ben are still in it TBH!

digerd Fri 01-Nov-13 17:36:56

ppeat
You don't see the appeal of Ben, then?
Was disappointed in his quickstep, though his footwork was better than I feared it would be.
But Dave - no appeal for me at all in any of the dances, don't even find him funny.
He should have gone last week imo.
Looking forward to tomorrow's show.

I think Ben is slowly improving, his Rumba was actually pretty good - the hips were stiff but he wasn't shy about showing feeling like some male slebs. He could do a Matt Dawson/Darren Gough.

ppeatfruit Sat 02-Nov-13 15:02:33

Ben is cute I agree digerd although he will never be a natural on the dance floor, much cuter than Mark (there's too many wooden males still in it for my liking.) Especially when you think that Deborah dragon has gone she could just about dance fgs!!!

Maryz Sat 02-Nov-13 18:30:23

Evening all. Wine poured, dinner eaten and ready to go.

CrazyOldCatLady Sat 02-Nov-13 18:33:38

Dinner ready with me on the couch grin

HellesBellesThinksSometimes Sat 02-Nov-13 18:35:10

Hiya - may I join? Just settling in front of scd with a cuppa smile

CrazyOldCatLady Sat 02-Nov-13 18:38:59

I've mince pies heating in the oven for afters, HellesBelles - have one for with your cuppa : )

MrsBramleyApple Sat 02-Nov-13 18:39:48

Evening everyone! Sitting with the duvet over me and the dog harrumphing under the duvet! Getting ready for my Ben fix............ <3

HellesBellesThinksSometimes Sat 02-Nov-13 18:41:38

I love a mince pie COCL thank you smile

JaneEyresHeir Sat 02-Nov-13 18:42:04

Ben's outfit the best so far grin

digerd Sat 02-Nov-13 18:42:54

Debs should not have gone as she was not the worst dancer, I agree. It was Dave's time < tearing my hair out at the viewers votes>.
Ben's rumba did show feeling and he is no actor. I really enjoyed it.< to be honest he took my breath awayblush>

FushandChups Sat 02-Nov-13 18:42:56

I know the props are shit but i do like the Halloween show [hgrin]

Oh no, Dave - just no!

MrsBramleyApple Sat 02-Nov-13 18:43:38

My mum thinks Dave looks better than he ever has before!!! wink
Ben with just a waistcoat on top!!! [thuddddddddddddd!] grin

FushandChups Sat 02-Nov-13 18:43:38

ah - no Halloween smiley things then grin

Sophie looks amazing!

Evening all. I am banished to the bedroom because of the footy angry but at least nobody will talk all over it.

Maryz Sat 02-Nov-13 18:44:41

I'm still gutted over Debra

Fiderer Sat 02-Nov-13 18:44:44

God I think I'm turning into Len. They could film Halloween dances with wonderful make-up, daft extras and fake spookery - all the Messin' Abaht on Sat afternoon as a special.

Then have a normal Sat night live dance show.

Maryz Sat 02-Nov-13 18:45:36

I too like Ben's lack of clothes

Do they realise Halloween is over? confused

JaneEyresHeir Sat 02-Nov-13 18:45:53

Yup - Dave's annoying me already.

May have to look away when he starts dancing wink

HellesBellesThinksSometimes Sat 02-Nov-13 18:46:05

Oh my word! How annoying are these vignettes?

Horsemad Sat 02-Nov-13 18:47:15

Liked that!

elcranko Sat 02-Nov-13 18:47:43

I think they should have done Halloween week last week.

FushandChups Sat 02-Nov-13 18:48:09

That was fun - and Patrick looked like he was having a ball (which i always think is half the battle)... lots of gapping though

elcranko Sat 02-Nov-13 18:48:10

Patrick was really good this week I thought!

digerd Sat 02-Nov-13 18:48:26

Well done Patrick! Len said it all. I am so pleased for him.

dementedma Sat 02-Nov-13 18:48:30

I liked that too!

JaneEyresHeir Sat 02-Nov-13 18:48:37

It was a great start to the show.

Hopefully this week will be livelier than last!

Horsemad Sat 02-Nov-13 18:48:43

Agree elcranko

Minimammoth Sat 02-Nov-13 18:49:30

Yapping yes but good dance, hoorah for Patrick.

HellesBellesThinksSometimes Sat 02-Nov-13 18:49:54

Noce bouncy quickstep - loved the voodoo theme

CrazyOldCatLady Sat 02-Nov-13 18:50:55

Yes, should have been last week. I'm trying to get all Christmassy here!

JaneEyresHeir Sat 02-Nov-13 18:51:09

Good score. Well done, Patrick.

HellesBellesThinksSometimes Sat 02-Nov-13 18:51:10

The judge's jack a lanterns are incredible

Maryz Sat 02-Nov-13 18:53:20

That was good.

Have I said before how much I HATE Anton?

FushandChups Sat 02-Nov-13 18:54:08

FFS - anton carved those did he!!!

Why are scarecrows halloweeny?

Maryz Sat 02-Nov-13 18:55:49

The timing isn't great imo.

Horsemad Sat 02-Nov-13 18:55:59

A bit sedate.

HellesBellesThinksSometimes Sat 02-Nov-13 18:56:18

Agree re Anton and he cannot do justice to latin dances.

Couple of timing issues there I thought.

CrazyOldCatLady Sat 02-Nov-13 18:56:41

Definitely agree about the timing, and sedateness. A bit too nice?

FushandChups Sat 02-Nov-13 18:56:55

Hmmm, not sure what i think of that.. one of them was out of time i think (out of sync with each other perhaps rather than the music, iykwim..confused)

CrazyOldCatLady Sat 02-Nov-13 18:57:07

I do wish they wouldn't boo the judges!

Minimammoth Sat 02-Nov-13 18:57:24

Wincing for Fiona, not great

JaneEyresHeir Sat 02-Nov-13 18:57:39

All a bit boring. Not great choreography.

CrazyOldCatLady Sat 02-Nov-13 18:58:02

Dave?!

FushandChups Sat 02-Nov-13 18:58:20

Dave grin Poor Darcy!

Extremewife Sat 02-Nov-13 18:58:21

why has Bruno got an orange neck he looks like he's got some kind of strange disorder angry

Maryz Sat 02-Nov-13 18:58:57

Yippee, I'm right. They agree with me

HRHwheezing Sat 02-Nov-13 18:59:00

I thought it was anton who was out of time!

digerd Sat 02-Nov-13 19:00:06

Fiona and Anton a bit tame, but the dance suits neither of them, I'm afraidsad. It looked more like a pantomime dance .

JaneEyresHeir Sat 02-Nov-13 19:00:52

Yes I thought he was out of time at the beginning especially HRH

8???!!!

digerd Sat 02-Nov-13 19:00:55

HRH
I thought so toohmm

Crazy4U Sat 02-Nov-13 19:00:57

Over scored.

Maryz Sat 02-Nov-13 19:01:27

They are marking very high.

That's what's screwing up the voting - there are lots of people tied on points.

HRHwheezing Sat 02-Nov-13 19:01:51

Ben time!

MrsBramleyApple Sat 02-Nov-13 19:01:55

BEN.............................grin

JaneEyresHeir Sat 02-Nov-13 19:02:20

Big Ben time - yay!

digerd Sat 02-Nov-13 19:02:25

Big ben time ! Paso hmm. Hope he wows me againhmm. Was disappointed last week.

Horsemad Sat 02-Nov-13 19:02:39

Come on Ben!

elcranko Sat 02-Nov-13 19:02:48

I hate to say it but I think this should really be Anton's last year as one of the pros hmm

Yay Ben! smile

HellesBellesThinksSometimes Sat 02-Nov-13 19:03:41

Impressed by Fiona playing down her twisted ankle - cannot be having with x-factor style sob stories.

MrsBramleyApple Sat 02-Nov-13 19:04:21

Topless again!!! THUDDDDDDDDDD!!!

Oh my word. He has forgotten his shirt. shock

Is this a treat for Craig? grin

Maryz Sat 02-Nov-13 19:05:14

hmm

Not great

Horsemad Sat 02-Nov-13 19:05:30

Wooo Ben!!!!

HRHwheezing Sat 02-Nov-13 19:05:46

I couldn't see ANYTHING wrong with that

elcranko Sat 02-Nov-13 19:05:51

The sight of a topless Ben was a nice distraction to the singers/band murdering that Muse song!

A standing ovation? Really? confused

CrazyOldCatLady Sat 02-Nov-13 19:05:58

That was good. I'd watch that again.

HellesBellesThinksSometimes Sat 02-Nov-13 19:06:15

Oh that knee-slide. Twould be better without the waistband imho

FushandChups Sat 02-Nov-13 19:06:16

Kristina 'Rancid' Rhiannof smile

Bens cape work was excellent but the rest wasn't, imo. He looks rather smashing without his top if though (and i'm not a big Ben fan!)..

What was up with that music though... awful!

ABitterPIL Sat 02-Nov-13 19:06:16

Oh sweet cheeses! Ben has awakened things I thought long gone!

AmIthatHot Sat 02-Nov-13 19:06:38

I'm just home so have missed some. Already, though, saying STFU to Forsyth.

And as for Ben, I don't know whether that was good or not, but I hate when they take their shirts off.

Chipstick10 Sat 02-Nov-13 19:06:46

Enough of the top off, seriously. Yawn.

Darcey's had the crimpers out.

CrazyOldCatLady Sat 02-Nov-13 19:07:28

Len looked scared while Darcey was throwing her arms around!

Nerfmother Sat 02-Nov-13 19:07:55

Sweaty hairy chest not doing it for me. Where's the Immac?

HellesBellesThinksSometimes Sat 02-Nov-13 19:08:10

He has glitter-clump

dementedma Sat 02-Nov-13 19:08:17

Stompy

Maryz Sat 02-Nov-13 19:08:22

Dd used to like her hair like that when she was about 6

ShadeofViolet Sat 02-Nov-13 19:08:22

Taking shirts off normally = desperation. Surely they are not there yet.

JaneEyresHeir Sat 02-Nov-13 19:09:31

Arf at ABitterPIL

Have to say - I prefer a bit of mystery myself! Sexier with the waistcoat on!

AmIthatHot Sat 02-Nov-13 19:09:56

Agreed, Violet.

catfood Sat 02-Nov-13 19:10:42

Clod-hopping and ludicrously overmarked.

HellesBellesThinksSometimes Sat 02-Nov-13 19:10:49

9???? I didn't even notice the dance and I know it wasn't a 9!

digerd Sat 02-Nov-13 19:10:50

mmm? With his naked chest and the cumberbund he looked more like a wrestler than a spanish matedor. His posture was disappointing as Bruno tried to show him before Ben ashamedly swept him off his feet and into his arms.

Minimammoth Sat 02-Nov-13 19:10:54

I just never feel Ben holds himself well. IYKWIM ahem.

Nerfmother Sat 02-Nov-13 19:11:00

I love Sophie. I get distracted by how gorgeous she is.

FushandChups Sat 02-Nov-13 19:11:15

9 - really!!! hmm so len, just slightly off perfect was it..

That's made me a bit angry actually.. not sure why!

AmIthatHot Sat 02-Nov-13 19:11:36

I wish I knew why I disliked Kristina, but I just do.

Looking forward to Sophie upping her game a bit now

CrazyOldCatLady Sat 02-Nov-13 19:11:54

Has Brendan had a haircut or what? He looks different.

I'm not optimistic about Sophie's jive. I don't think it'll suit her.

OodaresingingoftheDoctorDonna Sat 02-Nov-13 19:11:55

Bit generous score from Len?

JaneEyresHeir Sat 02-Nov-13 19:12:29

hmm I like Ben - and Kristina - but that was over marked, surely?

Ooh Maneater

Nerfmother Sat 02-Nov-13 19:13:31

Ongoing what is she wearing? Like an albino ladybird?

HellesBellesThinksSometimes Sat 02-Nov-13 19:14:08

A rather cool and collected start from SEB

There's no jiving.

Horsemad Sat 02-Nov-13 19:14:23

She's too reserved.

NomDeOrdinateur Sat 02-Nov-13 19:14:41

This is a really awkward bit of choreography isn't it? And the peplum is much too high...

catfood Sat 02-Nov-13 19:14:51

Not enough dancing Brendan

Minimammoth Sat 02-Nov-13 19:14:52

What's happening, has someone ties Sophie's knees together?

MrsBramleyApple Sat 02-Nov-13 19:14:55

Brendan looks like he is constipated the way he is leaping about! hmm

FushandChups Sat 02-Nov-13 19:15:04

Sophie has definitely done better but Brendan is pushing all my buttons blush

CrazyOldCatLady Sat 02-Nov-13 19:15:05

She's always too reserved.

OodaresingingoftheDoctorDonna Sat 02-Nov-13 19:15:09

Patrick looks like he's clapping politely but not impressed

Nerfmother Sat 02-Nov-13 19:15:10

Erm that was a tiny bit shit. Like a provincial pantomime.

JaneEyresHeir Sat 02-Nov-13 19:15:35

Disappointing.

Love them though.

HellesBellesThinksSometimes Sat 02-Nov-13 19:15:44

That did not look like a jive.

toldmywrath Sat 02-Nov-13 19:15:46

SEB looked a bit off form tonight & what a pronounced chin she has!

digerd Sat 02-Nov-13 19:15:57

Not impressed - boring, even the audience isn't clapping with enthusiasm.

Maryz Sat 02-Nov-13 19:16:30

I thought that was very good. Oh dear

IndiansOnTheRailroad Sat 02-Nov-13 19:16:30

She doesn't commit. She just marks everything.

dementedma Sat 02-Nov-13 19:16:37

That was crap

NomDeOrdinateur Sat 02-Nov-13 19:16:39

She's beautiful, but that was not a pretty dance. She could have performed it perfectly, and it would still have looked rubbish IMO...

catfood Sat 02-Nov-13 19:16:50

agree Horsemad - sophie too reserved, too hesitant. Might be a problem with Brendan, I think he puts too much pressure on his partners.

Minimammoth Sat 02-Nov-13 19:17:02

Peplum ..awful...

elcranko Sat 02-Nov-13 19:17:05

I usually really like Sophie & Brendan but I didn't enjoy that dance much hmm

digerd Sat 02-Nov-13 19:18:25

Len's marking is well off tonightconfused

NomDeOrdinateur Sat 02-Nov-13 19:18:42

Brendan doesn't help when he speaks, does he...? Also: 8?!

HRHwheezing Sat 02-Nov-13 19:19:27

She always seems to cool for school.

I'm too good for this dancing lark. But I like her. I want her to do well.

Are dancers so famous that they only have one name?

HellesBellesThinksSometimes Sat 02-Nov-13 19:19:30

Looking forward to this - I enjoy natalie and artem's dancing smile

ShadeofViolet Sat 02-Nov-13 19:19:38

Has Len been drinking?

catfood Sat 02-Nov-13 19:20:04

Can't wait for Natalie, she's such a natural.

MrsBramleyApple Sat 02-Nov-13 19:21:48

Its Natalie hmm So mehhhhhhhhhhh!!!

DameEdnasBridesmaid Sat 02-Nov-13 19:23:00

Bloody awful tune

HRHwheezing Sat 02-Nov-13 19:23:09

First 10 I think

PolkadotsAndMoonbeams Sat 02-Nov-13 19:23:19

Artem's forgotten to do his shirt up...

dementedma Sat 02-Nov-13 19:23:23

O wow. Loved that.

CrazyOldCatLady Sat 02-Nov-13 19:23:25

I really liked the piano solo at the beginning, it was much more atmospheric before everyone else joined in. Gorgeous dance though and I bloody love her dress.

The stage manager needed to stop chain smoking though.

NomDeOrdinateur Sat 02-Nov-13 19:23:26

I don't like the Halloween theme so far sad. (That said, I do wish Sophie and Brendan had done a proper jive to Monster Mash...)

HellesBellesThinksSometimes Sat 02-Nov-13 19:23:28

You can tell it's good when it seems too short.

Should have been instrumental. The vocals crashed it.

FushandChups Sat 02-Nov-13 19:23:28

i think if Natalie had been paired with anyone else, I'd really dislike her but i quite liked that (although she is clearly miles ahead of all the others!)

elcranko Sat 02-Nov-13 19:23:55

I find Natalie smug and irritating, but she's a lovely dancer

Maryz Sat 02-Nov-13 19:25:32

I ought to like Natalie, but I just can't.

CrazyOldCatLady Sat 02-Nov-13 19:26:21

Two tens!

MrsBramleyApple Sat 02-Nov-13 19:26:48

Bet she gets a ten tonight! hmm

JaneEyresHeir Sat 02-Nov-13 19:26:53

Starting to warm to her more.
Enjoyed that - mystical and haunting.

Not sure if it deserved two tens though hmm
- but well done to them!

MrsBramleyApple Sat 02-Nov-13 19:27:28

I was on lag................!

FushandChups Sat 02-Nov-13 19:27:31

shock Wow... She could be a bit more excited though (artem looks well chuffed!)..

And sounds like Dave is doing the Monster Mash - not looking forward to that!

Minimammoth Sat 02-Nov-13 19:27:41

Who comes up with the themes for the dances?

catfood Sat 02-Nov-13 19:27:45

If you don't like Natalie you don't really like dancing.

CrazyOldCatLady Sat 02-Nov-13 19:28:45

I love Iveta : )

AmIthatHot Sat 02-Nov-13 19:29:32

Ooooh, it's the cold hard Lithuanian woman grin

Oh and I love dancing, but don't like Natalie, so figure that one out hmm

CrazyOldCatLady Sat 02-Nov-13 19:30:55

What dance is this? I'm lost.

PolkadotsAndMoonbeams Sat 02-Nov-13 19:31:18

Disco paso? hmm

FushandChups Sat 02-Nov-13 19:31:25

Uhm... Paso?

AmIthatHot Sat 02-Nov-13 19:31:47

I too wondered what dance this was. I liked it but didn't look like a paso

dementedma Sat 02-Nov-13 19:31:47

Mark has great timing

JaneEyresHeir Sat 02-Nov-13 19:32:06

Bonkers!
Mark looks Tweedledum in that get up.
SO much more entertaining than dull Dave.

CrazyOldCatLady Sat 02-Nov-13 19:32:09

Dave again? What's going on tonight with calling people Dave?

Also, I had absolutely no idea that that was a paso. None.

HellesBellesThinksSometimes Sat 02-Nov-13 19:32:15

Enjoyed that but it was not a paso

CrazyOldCatLady Sat 02-Nov-13 19:33:23

So is Iveta just a bit too bonkers?

JaneEyresHeir Sat 02-Nov-13 19:33:55

I am Dave Spartacus.

AmIthatHot Sat 02-Nov-13 19:34:35

oh, no Iveta has just done the phone thing with her hand angry

digerd Sat 02-Nov-13 19:35:24

Wasn't it supposed to be an american smooth, with the choreography combining the paso with whatever the other was?

Horsemad Sat 02-Nov-13 19:35:50

Missed Natalie and also Mark - had a visitor shock Don't they know I watch SCD???

HellesBellesThinksSometimes Sat 02-Nov-13 19:35:53

Rachel needs a good night

DaveBussell Sat 02-Nov-13 19:37:13

Feel sorry for Rachel - she's very likeable but she hasn't got the right stuff

HellesBellesThinksSometimes Sat 02-Nov-13 19:37:18

If they need to save time, they could ditch these films

elcranko Sat 02-Nov-13 19:37:53

Horse - how dare they? shock

Really hoping to see sims improvement in Rachel's dancing this week.

JaneEyresHeir Sat 02-Nov-13 19:38:34

Haha, too true HellesBelles - so naff!

Nerfmother Sat 02-Nov-13 19:38:43

I hate the films. Top up time .

Nerfmother Sat 02-Nov-13 19:39:13

Boring

DameEdnasBridesmaid Sat 02-Nov-13 19:39:42

Another bloody awful tune. What is wrong with them all, choosing such dirge?

FushandChups Sat 02-Nov-13 19:40:27

Rachel & Pasha aren't really doing anything for me sad That was nice, but that's all it was for me anyway!

Want Pasha to do well though - he's so sweet!

JaneEyresHeir Sat 02-Nov-13 19:40:27

Well done, Rachel and Pasha smile

Horsemad Sat 02-Nov-13 19:40:55

I thought Rachel looked better posture wise this week.

HRHwheezing Sat 02-Nov-13 19:41:06

Is the dance over?i nodded off. She stops dancing in parts.

Dull.

toldmywrath Sat 02-Nov-13 19:41:13

Ditch those stupid films if you're short of time. The singer sounds like a strangled cat.

HellesBellesThinksSometimes Sat 02-Nov-13 19:41:36

Normally enjoy an american smooth but that was a bit blah. Went well, I think but pasha can choreograph better than that.

7's seem reasonable.

elcranko Sat 02-Nov-13 19:41:46

So much better Rachel!

Not really an 8 though? confused

digerd Sat 02-Nov-13 19:42:00

Oh dear. What is wrong with the judges? That was very poorly danced.
Rachel is so beautiful, just wish her dancing was .
7s fine, 8s ridiculous.

elcranko Sat 02-Nov-13 19:43:37

Yay Ashley & Ola... My favourites smile

Ola's make up/costume look great!

HellesBellesThinksSometimes Sat 02-Nov-13 19:43:43

Ooh! Tango smile

NomDeOrdinateur Sat 02-Nov-13 19:45:11

Liking Ashley and Ola grin.

JaneEyresHeir Sat 02-Nov-13 19:45:57

Love Ola's dress.

CrazyOldCatLady Sat 02-Nov-13 19:46:15

Hmm. He tangoes rather competently.

HellesBellesThinksSometimes Sat 02-Nov-13 19:46:41

Another one that seemd over too soon! A few paso elements with a proper tango in hold.

FushandChups Sat 02-Nov-13 19:46:42

Ashley is so handsome - i would take him over Ben any day.. Not his best dance though...

Horsemad Sat 02-Nov-13 19:46:47

I thought that was good but couldn't see their feet with the smoke.

HellesBellesThinksSometimes Sat 02-Nov-13 19:49:19

Ashley=best male costume & make-up.

Good tango face too.

elcranko Sat 02-Nov-13 19:50:17

Ooh looking forward to watching Abbey.

NomDeOrdinateur Sat 02-Nov-13 19:51:46

I really dislike all of this filler in between dances.

digerd Sat 02-Nov-13 19:51:53

Ashley has talent as a dancer and always gives it his all. Something missing in the tango and think it was the low knee and posture style.

MrsBramleyApple Sat 02-Nov-13 19:51:58

Cant stand Abbey. Am I the only one who thinks she is a bit too touchy feely with him..........? hmm

CrazyOldCatLady Sat 02-Nov-13 19:52:35

Yes! Way too touchy feely.

I hate the rumba. I just don't get it.

CrazyOldCatLady Sat 02-Nov-13 19:52:44

Also hate the song.

coffeeinbed Sat 02-Nov-13 19:52:46

Yes, that smoke was a bit of a silly thing to do in a dancing competition.

NomDeOrdinateur Sat 02-Nov-13 19:52:57

For some reason, I knew they would choose this song... It's the only good one so far, but the singer is no Marcella Detroit sad.

NomDeOrdinateur Sat 02-Nov-13 19:53:07

Or Siobhan Fahey, clearly.

CrazyOldCatLady Sat 02-Nov-13 19:54:00

And now in a complete turnaround, I actually liked that.

Except the singer, who should be fired immediately.

HellesBellesThinksSometimes Sat 02-Nov-13 19:54:44

It seems to take Abbey a little while to come out of the dance. She really seems to feel the dance.

Horsemad Sat 02-Nov-13 19:55:00

I really loved that dance.

digerd Sat 02-Nov-13 19:55:00

Good rumba by Abbey - more hip movement needed and expression with her shoulders and upper back.

MrsBramleyApple Sat 02-Nov-13 19:55:02

Mind you if I was married to Peter Crouch??? wink

FushandChups Sat 02-Nov-13 19:55:33

Saw that bloody 'chemistry' they've been going on about at last - that was really good!

elcranko Sat 02-Nov-13 19:55:52

I quite liked that but yes, they're way too touchy feely with one another!

CrazyOldCatLady Sat 02-Nov-13 19:55:57

That 'little brother' bit had an oddly scripted feel hmm

digerd Sat 02-Nov-13 19:56:40

Not Dave. I'll make a cup of coffee.

HellesBellesThinksSometimes Sat 02-Nov-13 19:57:00

Hope Dave doesn't do that finger thing yet again.

Horsemad Sat 02-Nov-13 19:58:18

A. lot of chemistry between Abbey & Aljaz. smile

elcranko Sat 02-Nov-13 19:58:19

Crazy - I agree!

elcranko Sat 02-Nov-13 19:58:42

Oh no, Dave is doing a jive?! confused

FushandChups Sat 02-Nov-13 19:59:23

sad He is dreadful!

CrazyOldCatLady Sat 02-Nov-13 19:59:31

Dave needs to go. Seriously.

Horsemad Sat 02-Nov-13 19:59:40

Oh dear sad

MrsBramleyApple Sat 02-Nov-13 19:59:46

I am so ready for Dave to go now! hmm

HRHwheezing Sat 02-Nov-13 20:00:21

That was flaming awful

elcranko Sat 02-Nov-13 20:00:28

Um... How was that a jive?

PolkadotsAndMoonbeams Sat 02-Nov-13 20:00:38

I'm not sure it really was a jive elcranko grin

HellesBellesThinksSometimes Sat 02-Nov-13 20:00:53

Dave's best dance. Actually tried to dance though was flat and slow.

Minimammoth Sat 02-Nov-13 20:01:07

Bye Dave.

FoxyHarlow123 Sat 02-Nov-13 20:01:15

Abbey is ''psyched'. What is it with her? She's very on edge and nervy. Liked the dance though :-)

JaneEyresHeir Sat 02-Nov-13 20:02:14

Why are people voting for him?!

CrazyOldCatLady Sat 02-Nov-13 20:02:41

Yes, that's exactly it, it was his best dance. But it still looked like week 1.

elcranko Sat 02-Nov-13 20:02:59

I know Jane, it's not even like he provides comedy.

HRHwheezing Sat 02-Nov-13 20:03:04

Overmarked

elcranko Sat 02-Nov-13 20:03:15

6? Seriously?

MrsBramleyApple Sat 02-Nov-13 20:03:18

Foxy I could answer that question but my post would be deleted!! wink

Horsemad Sat 02-Nov-13 20:03:31

Kevin from Grimsby!!!!!

I hate to say this but I am ready for the final. sad

elcranko Sat 02-Nov-13 20:04:00

Bramley grin

elcranko Sat 02-Nov-13 20:04:53

Wasn't Susanna on last last week too?

She REALLY irritates me. I don't even know why. I like Kevin though grin

Maryz Sat 02-Nov-13 20:05:12

These VTs are truly ghastly

HellesBellesThinksSometimes Sat 02-Nov-13 20:05:15

Agreed COCL

I like the combo of kevin and susannah. brew for kevin

JaneEyresHeir Sat 02-Nov-13 20:05:22

Exactly elcranko
The comedy turn should provide a laugh or two....

CrazyOldCatLady Sat 02-Nov-13 20:05:22

This could be fun, these two will suit a Charleston.

FushandChups Sat 02-Nov-13 20:06:53

Kevin looks like Pasha!

JaneEyresHeir Sat 02-Nov-13 20:07:15

That's a better Charleston -
I do love a bit of fringing!

MrsBramleyApple Sat 02-Nov-13 20:07:16

She is clodhopping somewhat!

CrazyOldCatLady Sat 02-Nov-13 20:07:17

Full of energy and joy but she just doesn't have that 20s charleston look, somehow.

NomDeOrdinateur Sat 02-Nov-13 20:08:22

Susanna's Charleston was better than I expected, but not as... "refined" or memorable as SEB's.

Horsemad Sat 02-Nov-13 20:08:44

That just didn't grab me somehow.

hattymattie Sat 02-Nov-13 20:08:52

Kevin is the best dancer on the whole show - he is like Fred Astair.

digerd Sat 02-Nov-13 20:09:04

Susanna is not a trained dancer, but is so enjoyable to watch. Don't know how old she is , but she has loads of energy and didn't flag. That was energetic.

PolkadotsAndMoonbeams Sat 02-Nov-13 20:09:19

I thought Fiona's actual charleston action was better than Susannah's - hers was too heavy.

Although I was mainly watching Kevin I admit.

Horsemad Sat 02-Nov-13 20:09:21

I thought she looked a bit heavy.

Horsemad Sat 02-Nov-13 20:09:52

Kevin was ace!

HellesBellesThinksSometimes Sat 02-Nov-13 20:09:54

A lot of previous celeb dancers in the audience - does anyone think they've been filming a special?

FushandChups Sat 02-Nov-13 20:11:09

?? I don't know.. There hasn't been one dance tonight that has made ne really happy i tuned in.. except maybe Patrick - i think i really liked him!

the marks tonight have been ridiculous!!

FoxyHarlow123 Sat 02-Nov-13 20:12:04

Agree, little Kevin is mega.

elcranko Sat 02-Nov-13 20:12:45

Love Kevin! He is completely adorable.

digerd Sat 02-Nov-13 20:14:10

The only exciting bit was at the beginning - Patrick. Natalie was lovely but just as expected

HellesBellesThinksSometimes Sat 02-Nov-13 20:14:42

Top 3 (for me):
Natalie
Patrick
Ashley

FushandChups Sat 02-Nov-13 20:15:37

Having just watched the round up - Patrick was my favourite smile

NomDeOrdinateur Sat 02-Nov-13 20:15:45

Same, FushandChups... sad

Horsemad Sat 02-Nov-13 20:18:39

Patrick
Abbey
Ashley

didn't see Natalie.

DaveBussell Sat 02-Nov-13 20:26:22

Rachel and Mark in the dance off?

digerd Sat 02-Nov-13 20:26:52

Dave really has to go tomorrow, and Patrick should not be in the bottom 2 again .

digerd Sat 02-Nov-13 20:39:49

Rachel, Fiona and Sophie were all on a par tonight for me.
Mark at least made a serious effort and got into character.
Ashley and Patrick the best men - Ben the biggest and strongest .
Natalie in a league of her own. Abbey 2nd by several lengths.
Susanna not much further to go.

Bottom 2 tomorrow, anyone's guess.

Quite a mixed night I thought, and several couples were over marked.

I think Kevin From Grimsby is lovely, but so I am told, the reason he went on to the West End stage is because he wasn't good enough to progress from Juniors to full-blown adult professional in the Ballroom/Latin scene.

pinkteddy Sat 02-Nov-13 21:28:30

Time to go for Dave and Karen tonight hopefully. Think Mark and Iveta could be in dance off too. Sophie and Brendan also in danger zone - really hope they're not in dance off. Loved Susanna tonight and Ashley.

PolkadotsAndMoonbeams Sat 02-Nov-13 23:32:13

He was doing well with one partner, if you look here then they split, and you can see he took a big gap before competing with his last partner, and then they only did two competitions, neither look particularly big ones. But that was all amateur, it doesn't look as if he's ever competed as a professional.

BeyonceCastle Sun 03-Nov-13 01:20:46

Well, just caught up on you tube and wasn't that keen on any of them tonight tbh.
Originally - i.e. week one, my favourites were Rachel Patrick and Mark.

Now I am probably rooting for Fiona due to her tolerance of ohChristAntonNotYourCockAgain and Mark due to iveta but neither will make it to the end stages sad Ashley and Ola have won me over. Which dancer has been 'bullying' Ola, anyone here know?

Abbey - i am still not seeing it
Natalie - dancebot
Sophie - just not into it, peaked too soon
Susanna - too into it
Patrick - competitive
Ben - still overmarked
Dave - less said the better

Favourite dance has been Sophie's charleston, would have got 10s if later in series
I also liked Janette's tango choreo if not Julien's execution until I realised that the thrones etc had all been nicked from Mark Ballas' paso
in DWTS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RuRTBee74Cg

am loving DWTS more atm - Derek Hough's charleston with Amber Riley was excellent.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NbELDGw8MM

whereas i haven't fallen for the routines in strictly this season
Monkseal was right about Robin aspiring to Mandy Moore's SYTYCD table duel, that routine was also nabbed for the uk version so I guess there is a lot of crossover.

But I was really underwhelmed with music choices tonight.
The dancers among you - are the following not doable due to tempo/what dance could you choreo the following for?

Don't fear the reaper
Monster (The Automatic)
Old devil called love
People are strange
Werewolves of London - was used in DWTS for a cha cha cha
She wolf
Moon over Bourbon Street (Sting)
Vampires and wolves (Wombats)
Heads will roll (yeah yeah yeahs)
Black cat (Janet Jackson)

I know that poor Dave Arch cannot learn 10 new songs each week but the recycling is astounding.
www.ultimatestrictly.com/songs/

I am too heavily invested in this aren't I? blush

BeyonceCastle Sun 03-Nov-13 01:26:34

Yes yes i am - tis Karen Hauer who has allegedly been telling Ola she can't dance and James has tweeted that Karen came from nahthing.
wink

MintyChops Sun 03-Nov-13 07:26:37

Oh why did Iveta have to do the phone-hand thing? Now they will definitely be in the dance off. Is anyone else sick of Patrick's gurning? Would be quite happy if he left but really and truly the whole Dave thing has gone far enough. It's not even remotely funny and was it just me or did a lot of the dances feel a little flat? As though they over-hyped Halloween week then it just wasn't possible for mere mortals to live up to it....

Abby was great, I am so surprised by her, hope she does really well (maybe wins???)

Poor SEB, she started so well and has sort of fallen apart. If she gets through I hope she gets back to ballroom, she needs a confidence boost and doing something she is better suited to would be such a help.

GO HOME DAVE, PLEASE STOP VOTING FOR HIM PEOPLE, THE JOKE IS OVER/WAS NEVER FUNNY.

ProphetOfDoom Sun 03-Nov-13 09:17:49

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

Why can I not warm to Natalie? I don't watch Corrie, but I'm not feeling it.

waikikamookau Sun 03-Nov-13 09:26:14

totally agree aobut patrick's gurning.
gets on my nerves.

waikikamookau Sun 03-Nov-13 09:26:45

natalie is boring she is so good. and abbey clancie.

Maryz Sun 03-Nov-13 09:35:28

Abbey is growing on me a bit - I hated her at the start. I'm very fond of Susannah as well, and I like Sophie, but I think she might be in trouble tonight as it wasn't great.

I can't warm to Natalie either, Sparkling, and I feel really guilty about it because she is definitely the best. Though I can't warm to Patrick either - I think his height makes him look awkward and he sort of tries too hard.

I much prefer Mark to Dave. He is really trying to dance, Dave is still trying to do comedy.

I rather like looking at Ben, but even I can see how overmarked he was. I he carries on with the ever-more-desperate shirtless look I think he may go sooner rather than later.

waikikamookau Sun 03-Nov-13 09:40:20

i like mark and Ben. and somehow Susanna is too keen, but, good for her. didnt see the whole thing though <<shopping and cooking sad >>

annaje Sun 03-Nov-13 10:33:09

I can't warm to Natalie either - probably because she has the training, so a little unfair to me! I like Susanna, she is the only other girl who can pull off the latin and ballroom. Abby, is good, Sophie I really like but she can't do the latin, she just has such a cool personality it just doesn't work. I personally didn't liked Natalie's Viennese - wasn't twirly enough

Impomea Sun 03-Nov-13 10:53:49

Surely Dave must go -he ain't funny and looked like a demented Ken Dodd last night !grin

Natalie looked beautiful and was the best but I don't think she will win-if you had seen her in Corrie you would def. not warm to her !

PolkadotsAndMoonbeams Sun 03-Nov-13 11:27:57

I can't warm to Natalie either, I don't know why. She seems very efficient or something, like she's just ticking every dance off a list on the way to the final!

Snowstorm Sun 03-Nov-13 12:15:48

I thought lots of them were over-marked this week - don't know whether it's because it was a themed week (I hate all those 'hilarious video's too - I want to see the training) or because the judges were trying to encourage them all along ... apart from Dave, who they obviously want to leave now.

I love watching Kevin during the ballroom dances but (and I know nothing about dancing so this is just my opinion) not so much during the Latin dances. It seems to me that he's just SO fast and frantic during the Latin dances that it's too much! If he toned it down a bit then he'd match his partner's pace a bit more (and you can't expect his partner to keep up because that's just not going to happen at that speed) and they'd look more of a team.

PolkadotsAndMoonbeams Sun 03-Nov-13 12:41:48

BeyonceCastle they are frothing on DS about Ola and Karen.

I'm not surprised there are some frayed tempers and clashes though. Mind you not as bad as this case- they think the reason her visa wasn't granted was another couple told the Home Office she had been working illegally!

Chipstick10 Sun 03-Nov-13 12:48:16

I can't warm to Natalie either.
Susanna and her over the top hip wiggle walking down the stairs, and the almost bonnie Langford gushing is beyond irritating
Please please please stop voting for dave, he makes me feel nauseated. He thinks he's the people's champion and its revolting
Don't get ashley or Patrick.
If I had to choose anyone it would be abbey.

HellesBellesThinksSometimes Sun 03-Nov-13 15:06:23

Len did make quite a big thing about Abbey's lack of dance training in his feedback - presumably that was aimed at Natalie.

FushandChups Sun 03-Nov-13 16:13:20

Polkadots - that link makes for interesting reading although am slightly confused way they are considered a British couple when she is clearly Russian (the cause of all the hoo-haa in the first place) If she has a familial connection, surely she wouldn't need a visa..?

Sounds daft though and like someone is out to get them!

Dance isn't like sporting teams, you can compete for whichever country you like! I think as long as you train in that country you are considered to compete for the,

For example Joanna Leunis is Belgian by birth but represented Poland until 2011 and now represents the UK!

NomDeOrdinateur Sun 03-Nov-13 19:25:08

Anybody watching the results? The opening dance is... Odd...

JaneEyresHeir Sun 03-Nov-13 19:25:50

So who do we think will be in the dance off tonight?

NomDeOrdinateur Sun 03-Nov-13 19:26:51

Dave and (sadly, mostly due to bizarre choreography and an awful costume) possibly SEB...

Definitely an odd opener. I do wish they would go back to showcasing specific dances rather than all the cabaret stuff.

Dance-off could be just about anyone this week, I think only the top 4 on the leaderboard are guaranteed to be safe.

elcranko Sun 03-Nov-13 19:27:57

I think Dave will be in the dance off, maybe with Rachel or Fiona.

JaneEyresHeir Sun 03-Nov-13 19:28:25

I've got a horrible feeling that people are still voting for Dreadful Dave...

elcranko Sun 03-Nov-13 19:28:56

Both Tess and Claudia look nice tonight - best outfits both of them have worn in weeks IMO!

FamiliesShareGerms Sun 03-Nov-13 19:29:37

Terrible, terrible opening dance!

elcranko Sun 03-Nov-13 19:29:47

Oh god I hope not Jane, it's definitely Dave's torn to go this week.

elcranko Sun 03-Nov-13 19:30:07

Turn not torn!

MrsBramleyApple Sun 03-Nov-13 19:31:01

I think my mum might spontaneously combust if Dave doesn't go tonight!!

FamiliesShareGerms Sun 03-Nov-13 19:31:58

I reckon Patrick and SEB might be in the dance off tonight

FamiliesShareGerms Sun 03-Nov-13 19:32:44

Interesting reflection of the underneath of Tess's chin there....!

NomDeOrdinateur Sun 03-Nov-13 19:32:48

Yay for Patrick! smile

FamiliesShareGerms Sun 03-Nov-13 19:33:28

Ha! Shows what I know with my predictions grin

NomDeOrdinateur Sun 03-Nov-13 19:33:28

(And yay for SEB, I really like her even if she does struggle with the latin stuff...)

shock

NomDeOrdinateur Sun 03-Nov-13 19:34:25

Gosh, that was a surprise...

Maryz Sun 03-Nov-13 19:34:41

I can't believe that shock

MrsBramleyApple Sun 03-Nov-13 19:34:41

Ben is through!!!!!!!! grin

coffeeinbed Sun 03-Nov-13 19:34:53

Really?
I'm they will be through though.

Maryz Sun 03-Nov-13 19:35:07

This is mad

CrazyOldCatLady Sun 03-Nov-13 19:35:10

I'm shocked!

JaneEyresHeir Sun 03-Nov-13 19:35:26

Abbey! That's a surprise shock
I'm not that fond of her - but she can dance!

NomDeOrdinateur Sun 03-Nov-13 19:36:23

SEB seems really nice.

Horsemad Sun 03-Nov-13 19:36:25

Suprised at Abbey being in the dance off. shock

brainwashed Sun 03-Nov-13 19:36:25

Obviously not that popular but sure to get saved by the judges

elcranko Sun 03-Nov-13 19:36:27

Abbey shock

Maryz Sun 03-Nov-13 19:36:31

I am glad for Sophie. I'm not surprised Patrick is through, but Fiona and Anton could go.

Katz Sun 03-Nov-13 19:36:34

Abby was shocked. Guessing no public support

I think the problem was that so many of them were tied on the same score that the audience vote really makes a difference this week.

brainwashed Sun 03-Nov-13 19:36:58

So glad Ben is through though!!

elcranko Sun 03-Nov-13 19:37:23

I gather Abbey must have got the least votes out of anyone to end up in the dance off? She was second to top of the leader board wasn't she?

Katz Sun 03-Nov-13 19:38:03

I don't like Natalie. Not warmed to her at all.

dementedma Sun 03-Nov-13 19:38:04

Abbey is really, really irritating. Glad she is on the dance off but she will beat either Dave or Mark - whichever she is paired against

NomDeOrdinateur Sun 03-Nov-13 19:38:15

The gossip probably isn't helping her.

Maryz Sun 03-Nov-13 19:38:16

That could be that for Susannah. Or mark. I want it to be Dave

JaneEyresHeir Sun 03-Nov-13 19:38:33

Loving the spotty tights! grin

Katz Sun 03-Nov-13 19:39:09

So madness still can't sing

She was joint second with Patrick and Susanna, so unless Susanna is also in the bottom 2 then yes Abi must have come bottom in the audience vote.

elcranko Sun 03-Nov-13 19:39:37

Abbey will be safe no matter who she's up against... Unless it's Natalie!

Think it's more likely to be Dave though. I hope so anyway!

Maryz Sun 03-Nov-13 19:39:46

Franked, that's what I think.

They really have to stop giving everyone the same score. Len's the worst - he rarely gives anything other than bloody 7

brainwashed Sun 03-Nov-13 19:40:04

Non..gossip?

thistlelicker Sun 03-Nov-13 19:40:08

Can't warm to Abby or Natalie! Abby too vein! Natalie appears
Cocky and arrogant!

MrsBramleyApple Sun 03-Nov-13 19:40:20

Very disappointed with Madness!!

JaneEyresHeir Sun 03-Nov-13 19:41:42

A sparkly crutch! Go, Craig...

Maryz Sun 03-Nov-13 19:41:47

Oops, Frankel, sorry

Gossip? Care to elaborate?
Abbey will survive I'm sure. Overall I have no idea who will win.

Katz Sun 03-Nov-13 19:46:11

Think it'll be Dave

Yup, Abbey has to have been bottom with the audience vote. It's either going to be Rachel or Dave with her.

Maryz Sun 03-Nov-13 19:47:05

Poor rachel

I fear for pasha sad

brainwashed Sun 03-Nov-13 19:47:30

Oh no Dave still in !!

coffeeinbed Sun 03-Nov-13 19:47:32

No!
Dave's through.

elcranko Sun 03-Nov-13 19:47:37

shockshockshockshockshock

Dave through?!

Poor Rachel hmm

sad

NomDeOrdinateur Sun 03-Nov-13 19:47:40

It's mentioned up-thread (or in one of the previous SCD threads), I think. I won't repeat it because it's just groundless speculation and there's no reason at all to believe it's true, but I think it's a shame as it can't be helpful.

Maryz Sun 03-Nov-13 19:47:42

Ffs.

This is ridiculous.

CrazyOldCatLady Sun 03-Nov-13 19:47:51

Ah, jaysus. Seriously, people.

Rachel's going home, no doubt about it.

Katz Sun 03-Nov-13 19:48:11

Dave must be very popular with the public. Getting the highest public vote

HellesBellesThinksSometimes Sun 03-Nov-13 19:48:16

That is appalling.

NomDeOrdinateur Sun 03-Nov-13 19:48:17

I'm sure she'll survive - she's a great dancer, and she comes across really well on this. I liked her on ANTM as well.

JaneEyresHeir Sun 03-Nov-13 19:48:21

Poor Rachel - I doubt she can survive sad

brainwashed Sun 03-Nov-13 19:48:37

Mind you I don't really rate Rachel...but when will we get rid of Dave?

Impomea Sun 03-Nov-13 19:48:46

Oh what a shame shock

This is pants.

Its not Dave' s fault hough is it, he does his job its the public that vote for hime.
Lests not be nasty to Dave he is a sweetie (who can't dance)

dementedma Sun 03-Nov-13 19:49:30

Jeez. Dave needs to get out.
Rachel and Abbey both way better than Dave

Horsemad Sun 03-Nov-13 19:50:11

Bye bye Rachel. Judges are bound to vote for Abbey & to be fair, she is the better dancer of the two.

LeBearPolar Sun 03-Nov-13 19:50:53

Who is voting for Dave? It's getting ridiculous now.

No more Pasha sad

HellesBellesThinksSometimes Sun 03-Nov-13 19:50:59

MrsBramleyApple is your mum burning with indignation?

MrsTomHardy Sun 03-Nov-13 19:51:05

Rachel will be going home

elcranko Sun 03-Nov-13 19:51:29

Dave seems like a lovely bloke, but he's totally rubbish at dancing hmm

I don't understand why Dave is getting so many votes though, nice guy or not. His dances aren't good, nor good comedy.

NomDeOrdinateur Sun 03-Nov-13 19:51:34

I'm amazed that Dave is still safe - I liked him to begin with, but he looks totally out of place now IMO.

Oh poor Abbey, that nearly made me cry! She's done so well, and she clearly loves this sad. I'm amazed she hasn't had public support this week - it was a great performance.

Maryz Sun 03-Nov-13 19:51:56

If the rumours about Abbie aren't true, I feel very sorry for her.

Actually, I feel sorry for her either way sad

Katz Sun 03-Nov-13 19:52:06

the public like an underdog

It was probably the old "she scored highly enough to not need my vote" syndrome.

DaveBussell Sun 03-Nov-13 19:52:35

Wow, hope this is a one-off in the dance-off for Abbey. Feel sorry for Rachel but I really don't need to see any more of her dancing. Can't blame Dave if people are voting for the comedy underdog since that's what he was brought in to do.

MrsBramleyApple Sun 03-Nov-13 19:53:49

HellesBelles Mum has said quite correctly that Dave going through is making a mockery of the judges!!!

LeBearPolar Sun 03-Nov-13 19:54:06

What are the rumours about Abbey?

Maryz Sun 03-Nov-13 19:54:52

Abbey is better tan Mark, Dave, Ben, susannah, and Fiona.

NomDeOrdinateur Sun 03-Nov-13 19:55:29

She did brilliantly in the dance-off - I actually really want her to win now, she's great to watch and she clearly cares so much about this. <Resolves to vote next week>

elcranko Sun 03-Nov-13 19:55:40

Mark is the comedy underdog IMO, not Dave.

The beeb are more than happy to have people like Dave evry year
John Sargeant
Anne Widdecombe
Chris Parker (who got to the final)
it happens every year.

FamiliesShareGerms Sun 03-Nov-13 19:56:21

Yes, what are the rumours??

DaveBussell Sun 03-Nov-13 19:56:31

Kimberley went into the dance-off about this time in the last series and it actually did a lot for her popularity from then on.

JaneEyresHeir Sun 03-Nov-13 19:58:12

She's very gracious <sniff>

elcranko Sun 03-Nov-13 19:58:27

Oh I LOVED Kimberley! I was so angry when she was in the dance off.

This will be the first time Pacha hasn't made the final, won't it?

sob...Pascha...sad

elcranko Sun 03-Nov-13 19:58:51

Bruce is off next week? Hooray! grin

Yay did they say Bruce is off next week? grin

On a brighter note no Bruce next week smile

DameEdnasBridesmaid Sun 03-Nov-13 19:59:10

Will somebody tell us what are the rumours??

HellesBellesThinksSometimes Sun 03-Nov-13 20:02:21

Presumably the rumours are about the fact that two extremely attractive people are dancing together and we all know what that must mean! Pathetic.

I very much doubt that there would be so many comments about their "chemistry" if that were the case because she is married and peolle would feel awkward drawing attention to an affair. In front of them anyway.

I thought abbey danced that better the first time.

Just been reading the stories about the alleged Karen v Ola falling out. If they are true Karen has fallen a great deal in my estimation. Ola is a vastly superior dancer to Karen, you only need to look at their competition records to see that.

DaveBussell Sun 03-Nov-13 20:03:22

I couldn't give a crap about any Abbey rumours, I think she's great.

elcranko - I think Mark is a lot more serious about it all than Dave so not really the comedy underdog - he's more like the Lisa Riley figure, someone who has a lot of potential but is having to battle the problem of their weight. I really loved watching Lisa last series but in the end even she admitted that her weight was putting too much of a limitation on her ability to compete.

LeBearPolar Sun 03-Nov-13 20:03:41

I love Pasha sad. DS is devastated too. But I didn't want Abbey and Aljaz to go out either - Dave should have gone!

To be fair, I think Dave was just as appalled by the result as we are.

And what are the rumours?

<patient>

colleysmill Sun 03-Nov-13 20:04:04

Dh has just said much the same thing hobnob.

every week they say "vote for your favourite" which isn't necessarily the same as "vote for the best dancer"

digerd Sun 03-Nov-13 20:04:17

I didn't think Dave was even nice, but he looked shocked and think he apologised to Abbey - he did not look happy.
Poor Rachel and Pasha. I thought they may be in the bottom 2 but with Dave.

Impomea Sun 03-Nov-13 20:05:33

grin brilliant name DaveBussell !

DaveBussell Sun 03-Nov-13 20:07:03

wink Impomea

2rebecca Sun 03-Nov-13 20:09:30

I hate it when people hint at rumours and then won't say what the rumour is, it's very childish "I have secret and I'm not telling you ner" either spill the beans or keep it to yourself.
I've no idea what Abbey or Rachel are actually famous for so wouldn't have been bothered if either of them went.
I only support celebrities I've heard of which admittedly is only about 4 of this lot. No idea what the fat bloke is famous for. Dave, Sophie and Fiona are the ones left I know, although I rarely vote anyway.
If the judges wanted a real dance competition they should only let the public vote count for 10% and vary their marks more. The comedy acts rarely make it beyond the final 4 or 5, and whether you're eliminated 3rd or 7th doesn't really matter much.

digerd Sun 03-Nov-13 20:12:12

DaveB
Agree about Mark. I think the viewers didn't vote for Abbey as thought she was safe, however, who are voting for Dave?confused

DaveBussell Sun 03-Nov-13 20:15:59

digerd - same people who voted for John Sarge and Widdy etc as Hobnobs says. They're not too bothered about all the serious dance stuff, just enjoy the show overall which is fair enuff really. I doubt he'll last much longer.

JaneEyresHeir Sun 03-Nov-13 20:21:30

Ann Widdecombe wasn't voted out until week 10...
<runs away>

John Sargent didn't get voted out - he walked.

digerd Sun 03-Nov-13 20:31:41

Widdes was with Anton, though, much beloved by us maturer ladies grin. I don't find Dave funny or entertaining, but enjoy Mark's performances as he seems to be genuinely trying and taking it seriously. He also has shown some style and feeling.

NothingMoreScaryThanAHairy Sun 03-Nov-13 20:35:42

wow that was a shock- now have a devastated dd2 (6) who's just had her hair cut short and told everyone she looks like Rachel from strictly grin.

FushandChups Sun 03-Nov-13 20:40:48

2rebecca - i thought the rumours were around illegal substances that some people put up their nose.. Could be wrong and don't believe it of Abby anyway!! (hope i don't get deleted...)

Anyways - Sundays aren't great for me so missed the show but was very surprised by the bottom two, Abby in particular. The right person stayed and tbf, despite the judges comments, i didn't think Rachel had really come back that much..

However, gutted Dave is still in.. he seems ok and i know its not his fault (and they're all grown ups who's lives and careers are probably not going to get fucked up by being voted off) but he needs to go home next week!

I'm also sad about the whole 'Karen v Ola' stuff.. I like them both and not knowing anything about their actual dance careers, think Karen is a bit out of order (especially as Ola has actually won the show!) i know Karen got quite far with ole Nicky Westlife but probably more about him being in Westlife than her amazing choreography. Having said that, the Chris & Ola dance which always sticks in everyone's mind is the Charleston and, correct me if I'm wrong, but Ola didn't choreograph that - the Charleston was still so new they had other pro's to help??

ProphetOfDoom Sun 03-Nov-13 20:43:15

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

digerd Sun 03-Nov-13 20:43:39

I don't think Susanna is cheesy - although she was smiling with more twinkle than her feet were. Bonnie Lanfgord was a trained dancer and her smile was stage cheesy. Anybody remember her on TV as a child in Just William, was it called? She had long abundant ringlets. Or are you all far too young < or I'm far too old>grin

coffeeinbed Sun 03-Nov-13 20:46:08

I don't think winning the show means the professional dancer is necessarily better.
They just had better luck in the draw.

NomDeOrdinateur Sun 03-Nov-13 20:48:52

2rebecca: I was referring to a couple of petty, trivial, gossipy articles which have been published in the mainstream press - very mild and a total non-story. They're probably online, but I'm not going to link to them because I don't agree with publishing shit-stirring rumours about people. I only mentioned them to say it would be a shame if she was losing votes as a result of tabloid gossip, but I think that the "public assumed she was safe" explanation probably counts for a lot more anyway. So pleased she got through to next week, hopefully people will bother to vote for her next time! smile

I should clarify, when I said "look at their competition results" I meant professional dance competition results, rather than SCD.

digerd Sun 03-Nov-13 20:52:44

I think this year has the least famous celebs in it . I didn't know any of them.

NomDeOrdinateur Sun 03-Nov-13 20:59:14

Coffeeinbed - do the trained dancers really do all of the choreography themselves? If so, I'd imagine that having a partner who is especially good at strategic choreography (to make the most of strengths and hide weaknesses) would be a huge advantage for some of the celebs.

NomDeOrdinateur Sun 03-Nov-13 21:00:25

Digerd - you must know SEB, surely?! (Although, to be fair, I only knew SEB, Dave and Susanna.)

The pros generally do their own choreography for the standard 10 dances (waltz, foxtrot, quickstep, tango, Viennese waltz, Cha Cha Cha, rumba, samba, jive and Paso Doble) plus American Smooth, but they have help for salsa, charleston and Argentine Tango and any other dances that get thrown in because they won't have trained in them to a high enough standard, if at all.

DaveBussell Sun 03-Nov-13 21:11:31

I still have no idea who Rachel is/was.

NomDeOrdinateur Sun 03-Nov-13 21:14:12

That's interesting, thanks Frankelln smile. In that case, surely the pro partner's choreography skills make a huge difference to the outcome? Some of them seem to be really good at showing their celeb partners off to their best advantage (although, admittedly, it's hard to compare since the celebs all have different aptitudes).

It also explains why some of the pros have looked... less than comfortable... doing the Charleston! grin

I'm a Strictly newbie, and had no idea that the jive was a standard dance - it looks so different from the others! It must be very difficult to get right - the only one I've enjoyed so far is Ashley's.

NomDeOrdinateur Sun 03-Nov-13 21:14:55

Dave - isn't she Carol Vorderman's replacement on Countdown?

NomDeOrdinateur Sun 03-Nov-13 21:17:02

Another random Strictly question: should I start watching It Takes Two, or is it just like the "filler" bits on the Saturday night show? I'd really like to learn more about the week's dances, rather than just seeing footage of the celebs' families and random "field trips"! Also, DH's patience may be tested to the limit if he has to hear the Strictly theme 3 times per week...

coffeeinbed Sun 03-Nov-13 21:17:48

I have no idea!
But I can see some of them were less than chuffed with their celeb partners!
Whatever their choreographic abilities being paired with say Vanessa Feltz or Dave is severely limiting their chances of winning.