GBBO

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VikingVagine Thu 03-Oct-13 06:35:05

Seeing as the first thread is almost full, I thought I'd start a new one grin

For good measure, here is Monkseal's blog for this week.

ShoeJunkie Thu 03-Oct-13 07:03:51

Marking place smile

MrsJamin Thu 03-Oct-13 07:12:03

I may join you for this thread! Other one looked very long. Dh and I reckon it's between smug-Kimberly and woeful-ruby- not warmed to either! Would like to see frances or beca win though. What's the consensus around here?

Oh I like Becca! Christine is a close second.

forcookssake Thu 03-Oct-13 07:17:51

I reckon Kimberley will win, she seems to have broad knowledge and a high standard of finished bakes.

sarahandemily Thu 03-Oct-13 07:44:52

I like Francis, especially now her flavours were good. In my opinion her pastry bits were the only ones that really hit the standard I expect groom GBBO. And I am fed up of people giving her a hard time for trying to be creative. It's a competition FGS! I want to see different, unusual and creative things

As long as fake Ruby doesn't win I don't care, although I'd like it to be Becca or Francis.

DSJamesHathaway Thu 03-Oct-13 07:49:11

I think Frances might be coming into her own now and be the surprise winner. If not her, then I'd like Beca or Christine to win but I think they're likely to be the next two to go sad

Team Beca checking in smile
Beca i enill!!

Lizzabadger Thu 03-Oct-13 08:04:25

I like all of them. I think it's looking like Frances will win atm (because of the style-over-substance to substance-over-style storyline).

AnneEyhtMeyer Thu 03-Oct-13 08:04:26

Ruby was definitely being a cow this week when Mel was helping someone when time was running out, needing her to give her a talking to. I was cross at Mel running over to her as well. The timing of it made it a completely bastardish thing to do.

Badvoc Thu 03-Oct-13 08:07:51

Paul fancies ruby so she will win.
She irritates me no end.
Don't like Kimberly at all.
Would be happy if beca, Christine or Frances won, but I think Christine might go next week sad

Fifibluebell Thu 03-Oct-13 08:17:02

I hope Ruby doesn't win cos Paul fancies her! It's gross and she is so fake with her "oh don't eat it its disgusting I'm so ashamed" dramas then they love it and she looks all smug and says "oh really?" fuck off! This week when she called Mel over made me really dislike her! I like Becca and Christine!

Rosa Thu 03-Oct-13 08:20:02

I want Cristine to win but I don't think she will either I hope she does manage to get everything right next week !!
Otherwise Francis or Beca.

We watch on catch up so I'm always a day behind!
I cannot stand self depreciating Ruby, always woe is me I am so pretty ans oh did Ianage to cook something?

Like Beca and Christine, Kimberly is a very good cook and has some stunning flavours and high standards but is ruthless. I'm nit sure if we met that I'd lke her.

Francis is my favourite. Her ideas don't always work but her standard of presentation is just incredible and so innovative.

ppeatfruit Thu 03-Oct-13 08:48:23

Thanks for the new thread and Mighty Monk blog viking thanks all the ingredients of another very good GBBO thread!!

There was a bit of animosity towards Christine at the end of the last one and I'm not mad about her but she's certainly not THAT bad (even though she performed squash the spotted dick and forgot that she'd done it but age gets to us all doesn't it?) grin

IMO Ruby is amazing for 2O even though she has low self esteem issues,no one can fake so consistently.

I'm wondering if Frances will surprise everyone by winning.

Fiderer Thu 03-Oct-13 09:03:49

I'd never watch watched it as I don't like baking and I don't like cake. GBBO was on this week after something else I was watching and I was hooked.

Reminded me that I do like pastry things and as my d (11) is currently in a baking phase, at least I can now enthusiastically suggest things to bake instead of having that sinking feeling when she asks if I'll help her bake a (sinking) cake.

I loved the atmosphere of it and I particularly loved Sue Perkins - "I've never eaten a nun" grin

Paul H seems like a smug git but Mary Berry reminds me of the lovely ladies my mum plays golf and bridge with, well the lovelier ones who don't take it too seriously and ply me with gin.

AnneEyhtMeyer Thu 03-Oct-13 09:05:19

Anyone with the desperately low self esteem she claims to have wouldn't put themselves forward for things like this. It is the same with X Factor and the like. You have to have a certain level of self-assurance and self-belief to enter yourself for these things.

I would love Christine to win, but I don't think she will.

ppeatfruit Thu 03-Oct-13 09:20:15

IMO Ruby doesn't claim to have low self esteem I reckon that anyone who disses their own efforts to the judges has problems. Ruby is a GOOD baker' so maybe she was persuaded by friends and family to enter.

Thank you for the new thread, Viking. I am illing today (ds1 gave me his cold, as something to remember him by, before he went back to university) so my head is full of cotton wool and snot, and I can't think of anything remotely interesting sparkling to say, at the moment - sorry. sad

Gracelo Thu 03-Oct-13 09:24:50

I sort of like them all, some more than others but I wouldn't mind hanging out for tea and cakes with anyone of them. I don't think there was ever a GBBO contestant I properly disliked.
Glad there is a new thread, I couldn't post on the other one from my phone anymore.

NicknameIncomplete Thu 03-Oct-13 09:35:55

I like kimberly. She is good at what she does.

Ruby is annoying. She irritated me on tuesday when she shouted for mel at the last minute.

I also like christine but i am not sure about the other two. It is hard to pick which one will win.

TheDietStartsTomorrow Thu 03-Oct-13 09:46:18

Ruby is just such a messy baker. Her tables always a mess, her apron is disgusting and she uses her fingers to spread things. She needs to learn about hygiene.

Kimberly seems to be taking the whole thing too seriously. You can tell she's very competitive and there's loads going through her mind about the other bakers.

Letting Glenn go was he right decision I think. Beca's got the edge over him and she did good stuff this week. Her only downfall was not glazing her pastries. And Christine was terrible in the nun technical but made up for it afterwards with her pastries. So it had to be Glenn.

Quangle Thu 03-Oct-13 10:49:50

Yep, the needy "Mel, I need you" from Ruby was annoying. It's obviously her schtick but she needs to get over it. Perhaps it's a maturity thing? She is a great deal younger than most on there.

Kimberley is appearing very smug now but I don't know if that's her or the editing. I always rather like Frances' baking - I like it that she just does her own thing.

VikingVagine Thu 03-Oct-13 12:18:42

I wonder if Ruby is a MN child? Her mum is on here, what if she's been on here long enough to have followed/asked for advice with bringing Ruby up (she's only 20 so it's quite feasible) shock

I think she just needs to mature a bit and she'll be fine I often cringe when thinking about some of the things I did and said at her age .

I don't know who I want to win now, I was originally rooting for Howard, then Glen.

sarahandemily Thu 03-Oct-13 12:30:07

I know it's not an endearing trait but I don't think you can take it too seriously. It's a competition on national tv doing something you love. Why not put your all in to it!

TheDietStartsTomorrow Thu 03-Oct-13 12:34:17

Yes, I think Ruby herself will look back at GBBO in years to come and cringe. We all act abut silly when we're young. Ruby knows she's gorgeous. Over time, he's probably gotten too used to using her looks as a tool to
Influence people.

She'll grow out of it. Hopefully hmm

Dillydollydaydream Thu 03-Oct-13 12:36:08

I really like Christine. Wish she was my mum. Ruby annoys me for some reason, not quite sure why though.

TheDietStartsTomorrow Thu 03-Oct-13 12:57:11

I like Beca. Maybe it's because I see bits of myself in her.

ppeatfruit Thu 03-Oct-13 13:10:11

I reckon you're right about Ruby TheDietStarts she's gorgeous and she can bake praps it's all too much for some jealous people!

WingDefence Thu 03-Oct-13 14:16:46

Thanks for the new thread! I also have to watch on catch up so a bit behind.

Having really not liked Ruby up till now, I've decided to give everyone a break and just enjoy the show as much as poss spoils the point of me posting on here I guess grin

I was a bit annoyed at her 'I need you Mel!' bit but as Frances didn't seem to bat an eyelid - and Mel was helping her to fill her icing bag with raspberry ripple stuff - I wonder if it was set up. Otherwise I'd have expected Frances to have had a shock wtf face on...

ivykaty44 Thu 03-Oct-13 14:25:52

I think Chritine is nice but she irritates the hell out of me. Ruby is a pretty girl who bakes well - can't see the problem with her calling someone who said call me later when you need me?

HighBrows Thu 03-Oct-13 14:28:51

I'm joining this thread, the other one got too big!

Ok I love Becca, Frances and Christine. Ruby really annoys me with her faux 'oh it's rubbish'.. grrr angry I hope she doesn't win.

I liked Kimberly at the beginning but she pisses me off now too. She's gone very cocky and smug.

I'd really like Becca to win out of them all.

I'll be really pissed off if Ruby wins it but I think she might. The way Paul Hollywood looks at her makes me shudder, he's so predatory.

And Mary Berry has gotten mean this year... I can't remember her being so mean previously.

Pachacuti Thu 03-Oct-13 14:30:45

I like all of them, and it's looking a lot more wide-open who's going to win (if I had to put money on it I'd still go for Kimberley or Ruby, but I could see any of the remaining five winning the title on a good day). Frances is really showing what she can do now she's dropped the over-cutesy design.

I think everyone's being very harsh on Ruby. Her main problem is that she's a really good instinctive baker -- so when Glen or Howard or someone says "I've never cooked this before; it'll probably be a disaster" then about 50% of the time it is a disaster and we all smile along with them. But when Ruby has never cooked something before and predicts it'll be a disaster she almost always manages to pull it off, so then we interpret her lack of confidence as fake. She seems perfectly lovely to me (as do they all, to be honest). I'm sure if they had 20 hours of footage of any of us they could spin a "story" out of it that we wouldn't like or recognise.

AnneEyhtMeyer Thu 03-Oct-13 14:41:25

You've forgotten the part where she turns out a perfect bake and then bare-faced lies about it being burnt. That is why she is called a fake.

HighBrows Thu 03-Oct-13 14:43:12

Pachacuti that Ruby explanation sounds plausible! I'll try think nicer thoughts about her.. and she is being letched over by that dirty dog PH...

Pachacuti Thu 03-Oct-13 14:47:24

Plenty of other contestants think their dish is perfectly cooked when in fact it's undercooked (so they think it's more cooked than it is). Why is what Ruby does (thinking it's overcooked when in fact it's perfectly cooked) so different? Unless you are taking the consistent but rather harsh approach that they are all fakes, I suppose. None of them can really tell whether the thing is under-, over- or perfectly cooked until they cut into it, which they don't get to do because that's down to Paul and Mary.

AnneEyhtMeyer Thu 03-Oct-13 14:57:43

Under or over cooked is one thing. Burnt is a whole different thing. Burnt is visible. You can smell it. Saying something is burnt is either true or false. You can't think it may or may not be burnt. It either is or it isn't.

Pachacuti Thu 03-Oct-13 15:02:14

Burnt like Christine's religieuses? The ones that she noticed hadn't risen but didn't seem to have noticed were burnt, even though that was the first thing Mary picked up on? What a fake she is...

AnneEyhtMeyer Thu 03-Oct-13 15:07:43

hmm

Clearly you have decided that Ruby can do no wrong. We'll have to agree to disagree.

Pachacuti Thu 03-Oct-13 15:14:45

I haven't decided that she "can do no wrong". But she's twenty years old, she's appearing under stress in a very heavily edited television programme, and off the back of that millions of people have become convinced that they know the innermost details of her psyche. She's been called a fake, manipulative, disingenuous, sulky. Ridiculously, some have even said that she's only doing as well as she is because Paul Hollywood fancies her. She's been hounded off Twitter. She's had to shut down her blog.

What I have decided is that giving her the benefit of the doubt, rather than heaping more abuse on someone I have never met, is the decent way to behave. And even if I hadn't decided that, I would have had the basic politeness not to lay into her on a thread that her mother frequents.

Yes, let's agree to disagree.

Low self esteem issues my arse!!

It's obvious how much Paul fancies her and the fact that she goes all coy a d is lapping it up makes me want to gag. If I were her if be making sure the nasty old leach new he was in for no chance what so ever. I most certainly wouldn't be bloody simpering every time he spoke to me.

She has the Keira Knightly chin too!!

Kimberly to win for me or if not the welsh lady.

AnneEyhtMeyer Thu 03-Oct-13 15:30:25

I would have had the basic politeness not to lay into her on a thread that her mother frequents.

Well, that is an assumption, isn't it? No one has said they are her mother.

However, I really don't mind saying these things in front of her mother. If you set yourself up in these things then people will have an opinion of you. Not all of these opinions will be favourable.

Quangle Thu 03-Oct-13 15:33:52

sad

Let's not argue. I know it's a naff thing to say but I do really enjoy this thread and I enjoy GBBO and it doesn't have to turn into an AIBU bun-fight (lame GBBO gag to lighten the tone).

We will all view things differently and we don't have to convert others to our views.

ppeatfruit Thu 03-Oct-13 17:29:39

Hear Hear Quangle and I've noticed PH looking at a lot of people with his very hypnotic look actually men and women it's just how he looks IMO

ppeatfruit Thu 03-Oct-13 17:32:02

(now I'm really going to get flamed I've defended Paul Hollywood shock) Agree with Pacahuti about Ruby too.

ivykaty44 Thu 03-Oct-13 17:32:29

it will have to be judged though on the baking not the baker and ruby does seem to be able to bake well

DSJamesHathaway Thu 03-Oct-13 17:59:22

I'm not a Ruby fan but I don't think it's fair to be harsh about her because she is clearly Paul's favourite because she's pretty. That's not her fault and there isn't anything she can do about it. It was probably quite isolating for her as well during the competition. Really, we should all be ridiculing him for being such a lechy perv who should show more decorum.

Blimey is Ruby's mother censoring mumsnet now?

TheDietStartsTomorrow Thu 03-Oct-13 19:21:58

Also, didn't Paul look smug when he was commenting on Glenn's puff pastry technique wen tasting it. It was that 'I told you so. I'm always right. Haaha you experimented and it didn't pay off' attitude. Like someone who takes glee in other people's failures.

Mary is honest but it seems she does share the contestants glee at discovering something has gone to plan where the prick Paul just seems to revel in everyone mishaps and enjoy saying stuff that is rude and bitter.

He's not that nice a personality.

coffeeinbed Thu 03-Oct-13 19:44:09

I'm getting fed up with Paul. he's such smug bugger.
No Paul, you're not God's gift to bread and women.
Fuck off.
And I don't like Ruby's faux act as well.
I like the rest of the contestants - I would not mind any of them winning, although I think I might like Frances best.

cocoleBOO Thu 03-Oct-13 19:50:06

Ruby and her Princess Di look annoys me.
I want Becca to win but I like Kimberley and Christine too.
They all need to learn to tie their hair back.

Badvoc Thu 03-Oct-13 19:58:09

I just think Ruby's whole "oh I'm so rubbish don't look at my pitiable offering" is wearing a bit thin now.
She is obv a talented bAker. They all are or they wouldn't be there.
I don't think she asked mel for help to be mean...she is just young and very self centred.
Can't stand Paul H.
Never have been able to.
Love sue and mel though smile

yesbutnobut Thu 03-Oct-13 20:05:33

I think Christine will be next to go - she seems to be just producing old family favourites rather than stretching herself. Frances is coming to the forefront but it does differ week to week - if it's a 'bread' week then Ruby could do something amazing again.

AnneEyhtMeyer Thu 03-Oct-13 20:18:40

Paul is absolutely in love with himself, isn't he?

iklboo Thu 03-Oct-13 20:23:10

I used to like him but either he's starting to believe his own press a bit too much or they're editing him to look like a knob.

picnicbasketcase Thu 03-Oct-13 20:46:34

I want Beca to win. If not her, then Christine. Not to sound too unkind but I find the other three irritating.

wintera Fri 04-Oct-13 08:21:49

Sometimes I wonder whether I'm watching the same show as the rest of you honestly. The thing with Ruby was no big deal. Mel said shall I give you a talking to? Ruby said no but I might need it later. Mel said she'd be on hand for said talking to. Then when Ruby needed it she said oh I need that talking to now. To which Mel quickly obliged whist still helping Frances. It was no big deal and no big drama at all.

And as far as I know we don't know for sure that Ruby's mum was on the last thread. It definitely sounded like one of her relatives though.

Gracelo Fri 04-Oct-13 08:53:19

I don't think "burnt" is an either/or scenario, people have different preferences how well baked they like things and iirc Ruby made this comment about buns which had chocolate in the dough which would have been quite dark anyway, so not that easy to judge the bake. I thought for years that our local Tesco was burning about half of the morning rolls until one day some other shopper overheard a remark I made to dp about it and told me rather tartly that "this is how we like our morning rolls here in Scotland".
One thing I have noticed is that both Mary and Paul usually like the flavours in Ruby's bakes even if the bake hasn't turned out quite right. That's something you really need talent for, or what Greg and John over at Masterchef call "a palate" (uncertain about the spelling now, it looks weird).
Otherwise I agree with Pachacuti (and now I have that song stuck in my head).

ppeatfruit Fri 04-Oct-13 10:43:56

True Gracelo and wintera I never said I LIKED PH (there doesn't seem to room for self doubt in his personality) I said that he looks at most people in a particular way.

Breadrollsbuns Fri 04-Oct-13 20:45:57

I'm just watching the pastry episode on iPlayer - is it me or is there major passive aggressive tension between Mary and Christine? Fight fight fight grin

nennypops Fri 04-Oct-13 22:24:36

I just think Ruby's whole "oh I'm so rubbish don't look at my pitiable offering" is wearing a bit thin now.

Why "now"? She didn't do it in the last programme - it looks like she's developing some faith in herself.

I agree with Pacahuti.

StainlessSteelBegonia Fri 04-Oct-13 23:30:43

I think the editing is getting a bit OTT, to be honest. Ruby is very young and, like a few women her age, needs a bit of validation. She'll grow out of it, but I feel like that particular trait is being played up by the programme makers.

Ditto Kimberley's "smugness." I think she's just confident, frankly. I noticed in the last episode a shot of her looking pissed off edited in after another baker (Christine?) was praised, and I thought it was a bit uncalled for. There was no way of knowing when that shot of her had actually been done.

I am glad that the nicer points of Christine, Frances and Becca are finally getting a look-in. I felt like they were being given very one-note characterisation in the early episodes.

ppeatfruit Sat 05-Oct-13 08:43:10

YYY StainlessSteel and nenny Ruby's listening to advice from the judges .I LIKE her she looks a like DS!!

ppeatfruit Sat 05-Oct-13 08:44:20

duh I meant a 'bit' like DS grin

ExitPursuedByADragon Sat 05-Oct-13 11:01:47

Signing.

DH now hooked on the programme probably because of Ruby's doe eyes

GBBO2MAB Sat 05-Oct-13 11:05:07

I'm such a muppet - posted in the old thread. Shamelessly repeating myself here grin
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Hi All,

Sounds like lots of you are enjoying the show.

Just wanted clarify something about taking part in the marquee: Whenever contestants are shown talking, without the judges or Sue/Mel being there, 95% of the time they will have been asked something by a producer. The question, and sometimes the context, is then edited out and sometimes the video and sound are even edited separately.

Please don't assume the contestants are 'naturally' narrating their techniques or voicing their thoughts.

Have fun with the rest of the programs! smile

Mary-Anne

ExitPursuedByADragon Sat 05-Oct-13 11:20:15

^^

shock

Again

TheHeadlessLadyofCannock Sat 05-Oct-13 14:01:35

I agree, Ruby's schtick is REALLY annoying now!

And whoever said she and Glenn turned out similar-looking bakes, but Paul called his 'hideous' and hers 'a bit messy' – yes! Flagrant double standards. I was shocked. Paul transparently fancies Ruby.

I don't think Kimberley is 'over confident', just confident. What's wrong with that?

Why is this not on the Saturday night prime slot?
In our house Howard was the favourite.
Both of my teenage boys think Ruby is fake and fishing for complements.
As the show has gone on I've really warmed to Becca and I hope she wins.

I have loved Mel and Sue since I was on maternity leave during their Light Lunch days. They are the Ant and Dec of baking.
Paul and Mary could easily be replaced and the show would lose nothing. I don't feel either of them add much to the programme.

VikingVagine Sat 05-Oct-13 15:11:59

Wotcher Mary-Anne

You see? We're all being manipulated by the editing. They're all perfectly normal lovely people, made to look annoying by the show's producers.

PumpUpMyVolume Sat 05-Oct-13 15:15:08

Thanks for the new thread...

Having had some time since the show and reading lots of the comments, I've decided that there is something very likable about all if the remaining 5:

- Kimberly, has high standards for herself and produces some really interesting bakes
- Christine, a tad old fashioned but her experience means she makes some delicious sounding things as she knows what goes
- Ruby, i would say the most talented & natural baker of the bunch but winds me up something chronic
- Beca, i think seems lovely and probably the one left who.most reminds me of me of& how i bake
- Frances, her puff pastries blew me away so am a recent convert but seems the most grounded if them (always happy to do well!)

So i am reserving judgement for who i want to win until we get to the final 3 (although would like to see Christine or Kimberly in that line up!)

ExitPursuedByADragon Sat 05-Oct-13 15:52:50

I am a victim of self editing.

ppeatfruit Sat 05-Oct-13 16:00:10

ExitPursued grin well it's good to know our opinions are being noted thanks for that mary anne. grin

VikingVagine Tue 08-Oct-13 19:53:40

Is everyone ready for tonight?

Bea Tue 08-Oct-13 20:03:54

here we go!

VikingVagine Tue 08-Oct-13 20:06:55

Maned potato? Yuk!

VikingVagine Tue 08-Oct-13 20:07:27

Mashed even. blush

sophieandbrendantowinstrictly Tue 08-Oct-13 20:12:34

Apologies as I haven't read the whole thread so may have missed this. When do they do the baking? Is it every weekend so they can still go to work in the week?

Bea Tue 08-Oct-13 20:13:41

cabbage! ha ha ha!!!

go beca smile

Bea Tue 08-Oct-13 20:14:35

Christine's going this week!

VikingVagine Tue 08-Oct-13 20:15:49

Yes, weekend of intensive baking, real life rest of the time!

Loving the bees!

Bea Tue 08-Oct-13 20:15:50

yay beca!

Bea Tue 08-Oct-13 20:16:21

oh ruby! stop it!!!!

Bea Tue 08-Oct-13 20:16:54

Kimberley... stop looking smug!

VikingVagine Tue 08-Oct-13 20:17:00

Oh wow, Kimberly's is beautiful.

Bea Tue 08-Oct-13 20:17:21

OOO! she's not happy with the dry comment!

Bea Tue 08-Oct-13 20:18:32

did she say 'invalid criticisms'???

AnneEyhtMeyer Tue 08-Oct-13 20:18:46

Ruby doing her usual act.

Glad Christine got away with the loaf getting stuck in the tin! grin

Captainbarnacles1101 Tue 08-Oct-13 20:20:42

Kimberly is a little shaken.

wishingitwasfriday Tue 08-Oct-13 20:22:59

Can't stand ruby and her 'poor me attitude'.

AnneEyhtMeyer Tue 08-Oct-13 20:23:06

This sounds very sickly.

Bea Tue 08-Oct-13 20:23:14

Kimberley does irk me!
so glad her 1st bake wasn't spectacular!!
am I mean?

Bea Tue 08-Oct-13 20:23:43

hmmm! I thin it sounds yum!!!!

AnneEyhtMeyer Tue 08-Oct-13 20:24:45

Definitely not to my taste. It just sounds too sugary.

Captainbarnacles1101 Tue 08-Oct-13 20:24:47

i agree. Ruby is a little annoying. Kimberly never bothered me until this week.

sadly I think Christine wil go but Ruby and Kimberly really annoy me.

AnneEyhtMeyer Tue 08-Oct-13 20:25:46

Yuk, Ruby, don't put the piping bag on your mouth and face before using it!

Captainbarnacles1101 Tue 08-Oct-13 20:26:27

id like Christine or becka to win.

AnneEyhtMeyer Tue 08-Oct-13 20:27:03

They all look very good apart from one which looks a bit dark, but it may be ok.

AnneEyhtMeyer Tue 08-Oct-13 20:27:53

Oh dear, Christine's is a flop.

Captainbarnacles1101 Tue 08-Oct-13 20:28:43

ah balls!

wishingitwasfriday Tue 08-Oct-13 20:28:49

I think Christine will be going sadly.

Tallaween Tue 08-Oct-13 20:29:31

I am watching. Becca is my fave, that Focaccia looked delicious, I was practically droolingblush

Captainbarnacles1101 Tue 08-Oct-13 20:29:35

yea. i think Christines away

oh cut the faux modesty shtick...

MrsCornish Tue 08-Oct-13 20:30:15

Christine reminds me of a victoria wood character. she makes me wrinkle my nose. Dh knows exactly when i'm going to flinch, though he won't admit to finding her annoying.

Captainbarnacles1101 Tue 08-Oct-13 20:31:29

oh wicked i love this challenge

AnneEyhtMeyer Tue 08-Oct-13 20:31:34

Oh gosh, Frances is going to go to town on this one!

Tallaween Tue 08-Oct-13 20:32:02

Poor Christine, her merengue does not look good.

I don't think the editors like Ruby or Kimberly very much.

VikingVagine Tue 08-Oct-13 20:32:26

Right, going to say it, I want Ruby to win.

Captainbarnacles1101 Tue 08-Oct-13 20:33:01

I think editors are right. Rubys twitter isnt very "angelic".

AnneEyhtMeyer Tue 08-Oct-13 20:33:06

Well I want anyone but Ruby to win, so one of us will be happy, Viking! grin

MrsCornish Tue 08-Oct-13 20:33:14

what would a 2D cake look like?!

Are eggs classed as dairy then?

MrsCornish Tue 08-Oct-13 20:33:52

Beca's my favourite but Ruby is going to win.

Captainbarnacles1101 Tue 08-Oct-13 20:33:55

lol. Viking! we all entitled to our opinion.

AnneEyhtMeyer Tue 08-Oct-13 20:34:01

Good point, MrsCornish!

AnneEyhtMeyer Tue 08-Oct-13 20:35:16

I thought Mary just said they had to go beyond a carrot or courgette cake?? Or will Ruby get away with it by fluttering her eyelashes?

Tallaween Tue 08-Oct-13 20:36:00

I think I would be happy with anyone but Ruby confused I would be surprised if she did win given the editing.

And she's clearly talented but I don't think she's the best of who's left.

MrsCornish Tue 08-Oct-13 20:36:19

Chocolate soil! That reminds me of when i was kid, i used to fantasise that the rain in puddles was lemonade....

AnneEyhtMeyer Tue 08-Oct-13 20:36:23

At least Frances is adding beetroot.

Captainbarnacles1101 Tue 08-Oct-13 20:36:28

lol anne

Captainbarnacles1101 Tue 08-Oct-13 20:37:13

does Mary not like Christine?

AnneEyhtMeyer Tue 08-Oct-13 20:37:19

Has Paul conveniently forgotten the upside-down ice cream cone thing Ruby made?

AnneEyhtMeyer Tue 08-Oct-13 20:37:50

I don't think she does, Captain.

AnneEyhtMeyer Tue 08-Oct-13 20:39:07

That fake buttercream sounds a bit yuck.

Captainbarnacles1101 Tue 08-Oct-13 20:40:05

shes uber annoying!

difficultpickle Tue 08-Oct-13 20:40:29

How did Ruby break the bowl?

outtolunchagain Tue 08-Oct-13 20:40:31

Surely chocolate contains dairy , or am I being stupid?

VikingVagine Tue 08-Oct-13 20:40:48

I've always wondered just how solid those glass bowls were.

difficultpickle Tue 08-Oct-13 20:41:40

They are very heavy so I'd have thought they were pretty solid.

MrsCornish Tue 08-Oct-13 20:42:41

Ruby's making a dime bar

Captainbarnacles1101 Tue 08-Oct-13 20:43:32

god im starving now. i need cake!

MrsCornish Tue 08-Oct-13 20:43:54

i disapprove of the fact that christine has used a shop template for her guitar.

IsabelleRinging Tue 08-Oct-13 20:44:21

I suppose it's dark chocolate. What's annoying me is that butternut squash is a fruit and nobody has pointed this out to them. Gone off Ruby this week.

Captainbarnacles1101 Tue 08-Oct-13 20:44:38

i like the look of Kimberleys

AnneEyhtMeyer Tue 08-Oct-13 20:44:42

I think they are going to say Christine's isn't 3D enough.

Ruby is so annoying with her whinging! pack it in! kimberley didnt like coming 2nd did she?! beca to win i think

Tallaween Tue 08-Oct-13 20:45:18

I actually remembered to make bake off cakes the
last two weeks.

They were a lot less Heston than these ones though.

VikingVagine Tue 08-Oct-13 20:45:35

Kimberly's is beautiful again.

Captainbarnacles1101 Tue 08-Oct-13 20:45:49

oh dear Ruby!

AnneEyhtMeyer Tue 08-Oct-13 20:45:49

I hope Ruby's house falls off.

oh shut up Ruby

Bea Tue 08-Oct-13 20:46:09

I do like ruby but agree that she can be annoying... don't want Kimberley to win!

VikingVagine Tue 08-Oct-13 20:46:10

Ruby 's she'd looks like it's suffering from subsidence.

MrsCornish Tue 08-Oct-13 20:46:58

i always feel sorry for mary, watching her trying to eat with her incisors. i bet she hasnt got any back teeth.

Bea Tue 08-Oct-13 20:47:05

beca to win... !!

AnneEyhtMeyer Tue 08-Oct-13 20:47:40

Mary is a bit sour-faced today.

Bea Tue 08-Oct-13 20:47:42

oooo! Mary! she's not happy! dear oh dear!

Captainbarnacles1101 Tue 08-Oct-13 20:47:44

hasnt made her pots???? Piss off mary!

coffeeinbed Tue 08-Oct-13 20:48:08

Oh dear.
Poor Frances

MrsCornish Tue 08-Oct-13 20:48:13

i agree. beca beca beca. Ruby's looks very sinister ! like a tim burton set.

Bea Tue 08-Oct-13 20:48:16

hee hee I like rubys!!!

VikingVagine Tue 08-Oct-13 20:48:24

Oh do fuck off autocorrect.

coffeeinbed Tue 08-Oct-13 20:48:34

Oh yes
piss off Mary

Bea Tue 08-Oct-13 20:48:41

look at sour Kimberley!!!

Bumpotato Tue 08-Oct-13 20:49:10

Ruby's going to win, pah.

Captainbarnacles1101 Tue 08-Oct-13 20:49:20

Jeez! it looks bloody awful and they still praise Rubys cake!

AnneEyhtMeyer Tue 08-Oct-13 20:49:34

Love Beca's cake!

MrsCornish Tue 08-Oct-13 20:50:01

oh.

nooooooo

Bea Tue 08-Oct-13 20:50:08

oh! poor beca!!!

coffeeinbed Tue 08-Oct-13 20:50:22

So they only liked Ruby's so far?

no maybe Beca might go...

difficultpickle Tue 08-Oct-13 20:51:00

But she didn't shape it herself!

Bea Tue 08-Oct-13 20:51:01

christines gone!!

AnneEyhtMeyer Tue 08-Oct-13 20:51:02

This is the biggest sign that it is a fix. Ruby's looked like a drunk person made it and all she got was praise, yet Mary criticised Frances for not making a tiny pot!

MrsCornish Tue 08-Oct-13 20:51:14

to me that looks like a hideous cake shop cake. flesh pink icing?

VikingVagine Tue 08-Oct-13 20:51:32

Oh ffs, what do you expect from a cake WITH NO DAIRY?!

difficultpickle Tue 08-Oct-13 20:51:45

Christine will be going home.

Captainbarnacles1101 Tue 08-Oct-13 20:52:10

agree Anne agree agree

Bea Tue 08-Oct-13 20:52:45

really harsh today!!!

Total fix.

I would have returned Ruby's monstrosity to the shop. It was shit!

Captainbarnacles1101 Tue 08-Oct-13 20:54:22

So all in the danger zone bar Ruby!
FIX!!!!!

whatshallwedo Tue 08-Oct-13 20:54:39

I have come on here to complain about how biased they are being towards Ruby and I am sooo glad that other people think this too!!

Every week she plays the 'poor me, my cake is rubbish boo hoo hoo' card and they fawn all over her telling her how wonderful she is.

Her allotment cake looks awful!! angry

delightful allotment. it was crap! my 3 yr old neice could do better!

How disappointing ...What a jeffing fix.

difficultpickle Tue 08-Oct-13 20:55:30

Total fix if Ruby gets star baker again.

whatshallwedo Tue 08-Oct-13 20:55:37

Her cake is bloody uneven inside omg I can't believe she is star baker!!!

difficultpickle Tue 08-Oct-13 20:55:59

So Ruby gets it again. Absolutely not right.

nooooooooo

heritagewarrior Tue 08-Oct-13 20:56:25

What everyone else said about Ruby's cake - looks like a six year old made it. Why is she star baker?? Her bread was shit too....

coffeeinbed Tue 08-Oct-13 20:56:26

Oh piss off Ruby

Captainbarnacles1101 Tue 08-Oct-13 20:56:42

PISSER!!!

VikingVagine Tue 08-Oct-13 20:56:46

No big surprises there then.

Bea Tue 08-Oct-13 20:56:51

yes! looked awful.... but tasted good... and surely above all... this is what it's all about... the cake!!!
I know she's annoying but she is only 22 (?) ... surely we were all a bit pathetic and lacking in confidence then??? I was!!!! wink

quite coffee

whatshallwedo Tue 08-Oct-13 20:57:28

Appearance!!??? Is he blind shock shock shock

difficultpickle Tue 08-Oct-13 20:57:34

'Enchanting' = 'looks crap'

Captainbarnacles1101 Tue 08-Oct-13 20:57:47

OScar goes to Ruby. Best fake cry on TV!

difficultpickle Tue 08-Oct-13 20:57:57

I hope Kimberley wins.

VikingVagine Tue 08-Oct-13 20:58:46

Cor blimey Mel's French accent sounds pretty damn good!

Lots of procedures executed by Ruby. All executed badly!

FFS it's just so biased.

Oooohhhh next week Ruby does not disappoint with the blubbing and self depreciation.

heritagewarrior Tue 08-Oct-13 20:59:04

FIX!!!!

if Ruby wins i will eat my hat, after iv made one out of carrots and crappy chocolate!

coffeeinbed Tue 08-Oct-13 20:59:53

Actually, no.
When I was 22 I was ready to take the whole world on.
Well, I didn't. But I was ready and willing.
The doubts come late, when one gets older and wiser.

wishingitwasfriday Tue 08-Oct-13 21:00:11

I am Astonished that ruby got star baker. That cake looked awful. She is also the most irritating person on tv! The editing is either awful or the programme is fixed.

Just seen the preview for next week and she's still doing the poor me act. Not sure i'll bother to watch anymore.

coffeeinbed Tue 08-Oct-13 21:00:56

Sorry, that was to Be a.

Pooka Tue 08-Oct-13 21:02:29

I don't think it's a fix. Ruby's obviously tasted brilliant. It looked ok. Christine's looked meh. Becca's looked ok but obviously tasted rubbish. And other woman didn't have enough icing. Kimberly used a cake mould and had relatively little crafting to do.

Pooka Tue 08-Oct-13 21:02:56

I like Ruby!

Rosa Tue 08-Oct-13 21:03:04

Bugger really wanted Cristine to stay.
As for Rubys skills come on ...pleeeeaaasseee yes the roof was original but as for the chocolate is it that hard ????
Notice they diddn't eat the poppy seed soil can't imagine that would have tastes that good.
Kimberleys looked loads better .

booboomonster Tue 08-Oct-13 21:04:32

Agree with the views re a bias towards Ruby - it's like they are trying to make her feel better. Her cake did look messy but also appeared to have not risen properly when we saw the inside. So irritating!

booboomonster Tue 08-Oct-13 21:05:29

Sorry I find Ruby super irritating!

AnneEyhtMeyer Tue 08-Oct-13 21:06:23

They are killing the show with the blatant fixing.

If it manages to come back then they need to replace Paul and Mary.

Pile of shite. Soooooo fixed.

I am not sure Paul and Mary are the problem. It is hardly their agenda.

coffeeinbed Tue 08-Oct-13 21:11:24

It really looked as if they were nitpicking.

Came on here to see if anyone else thought that ruby's showstopper was a pile of pants....

I bake dairy free (every fucking day!). That shed was piss poor. It may have had a nice roof but as a showstopper it was shit.

DH just turned to me and said I don't know if I can be bothered to watch next week with such biased judging (he is the biggest bake off fan ever!). We swing between a theory that she's shagged a producer or has very deep pockets.

On a positive note it was christine's week to go sadly.

AnneEyhtMeyer Tue 08-Oct-13 21:14:52

I think Paul and Mary are a big part of the problem, agree not all of it, but a big part nevertheless.

Paul blatantly plays favourites (he was terribly rude to Glen for example) and Mary seems to be getting more bitter and miserable every week. The way she wrinkles her nose and pouts before putting people down is getting embarrassing.

ppeatfruit Tue 08-Oct-13 21:15:23

I like Ruby as well pooka and bea we didn't taste her actual cake it must 've tasted good and it was more complex than just putting fondant icing over it all, even if the shed was a bit drunken looking.

BTW who said chocolate is dairy; you can get dark dairy free chocolate (which is all I eat!!) much nicer than milk chocolate esp. the cheap stuff. It was sad at the end they all were soo upset about Christine going.

Dont post on here much, but, I`m so disappointed in this series. They are pushing for Ruby, and I cant help but think its because she has the right face for a tv show, have the previous winners not sold enough books maybe. I`m not saying shes not good, but its like there is not a competiton this time, Ruby will win.

I though Kimberlys Toadstool was just gorgeous, and Paul was so vicious to the others, boo hiss.

I cant wait for the Dressmaking show to come back now.

AnneEyhtMeyer Tue 08-Oct-13 21:18:03

The thing is, Ruby may have "the right face for tv", but her personality on TV has been a turn off for a lot of people. I can't see her doing well in the media afterwards. She isn't very likeable.

sparklesandbling Tue 08-Oct-13 21:19:39

I think fix fix fix

looking at past years all the winners have been young, studenty types, they obviously don't like older people or those with years of experience winning.

This years programme has really put me off watching next year. I think the judges are judging the personalities of the bakers rather than the bakes!

TickledOnion Tue 08-Oct-13 21:20:00

Kimberley's looked good because she used a shaped cake tin and ready made icing. Ruby's was entirely made by her and original. I'm not keen on her but she is a good baker.

But then who has actually bought the book and all the stuff that comes from GBBO.

The only happy ones must be MB and PH so it doesn't really matter who wins or who they want to win

The previous two winners were likeable ... I hate Ruby's false modesty

Remember Jo - also no self belief

ithaka Tue 08-Oct-13 21:24:33

Oh that was frustrating. I can't believe they didn't even mention Ruby's wonky shed. If that had been Frances' cake they would have been gleeful in their scorn.

Picking Frances up on not making one wee pot then being apparently blind to a massive flaw when it is Ruby. My DH has just said 'Ruby could produce a turd on a plate and Paul would say it was delicious and well executed'.

The thing about Ruby is, if you shut your eyes, she has an incredibly, nasal, whiny, negative voice. If she was plump and plain I think she would get far less sympathy with her endless mentioning of her exams.

I would like anyone to win except Ruby, but sadly it is clear it is a stitch up - which spoils the whole fun of the programme.

ArtisanLentilWeaver Tue 08-Oct-13 21:25:19

I will play the Devil's Advocate and say that Mary and Paul had to be extra harsh picky in their judging this week. It was really sad to see Christine go as she has excelled in other bakes.

It was heartening to see Ruby feel positive about her work. I think she is finding her confidence when she is under pressure.

AnneEyhtMeyer Tue 08-Oct-13 21:27:51

They were extra picky with everyone apart from Ruby, though. That is why it was overwhelmingly obvious it was a fix.

sparklesandbling Tue 08-Oct-13 21:28:14

I think its time we got some new fresh faced judges, fed up of PH and harsh mary

I agree sparkling, might be time for new judges. I`m not saying that Ruby is not a good baker, but the bias is so obvious, its really putting me off.

wintera Tue 08-Oct-13 21:32:58

Surely Ruby is exactly like James from last year's show no? Student, eccentric type (especially with their clothing) seemed to wing it quite a few times due to exams, made wonky looking things (last year James's wonky barn thing, this year a wonky shed). Don't remember James getting as much stick though. In fact all we heard last year was how lovely and gorgeous James was in his cutesy wutesy knitted fucking tank tops!

Sorry, sorry I may still be harbouring some resentment over all that from last year as I didn't find him fanciable at all. Apologies for getting unreasonably annoyed about tank tops.

ArtisanLentilWeaver Tue 08-Oct-13 21:34:25

It would be lovely to see some of the past winners as judges.
I think Paul's personal life has put people off him.

coffeeinbed Tue 08-Oct-13 21:36:35

James didn't whine all the time though.

ithaka Tue 08-Oct-13 21:36:37

In fairness, James was a medical student, so will have had a rather more punishing schedule than Ruby & her philosophy degree (I know of what I speak, I shared a flat with my DSis who did honours philosophy).

Plus, it never actually felt like James would win, but with Ruby it just feels inevitable, not matter what she does.

ithaka Tue 08-Oct-13 21:37:50

And another thing - I don't recall James whining on in a dreary nasal monotone about his exams. Ruby is not appealing, apart from her looks, and she is, admittedly, very pretty.

PumpUpMyVolume Tue 08-Oct-13 21:43:58

Wintera - James had a nicer personality though or at least came over that way. Ruby's voice is just so monotone (sorry whichever family member frequents here!)

I get Ruby is young and as i have said plenty of times, is clearly talented BUT i found the showstopper judging really biased this week. Everyone got criticised except Ruby and whilst it is about the taste, you can't set a task like that and then turn a complete blind eye to the fact it looks a bit shit. Just one comment (maybe there was one but was edited out?) would have balanced slightly??

Oh, i don't know... i will continue to watch as i love it so but i don't like the weeks where it is sooo obvious who is going (like this week & with Dani last year!) The four remaining are all good but think Beca could be in trouble next sad

sparklesandbling Tue 08-Oct-13 21:45:51

I predict becca next week, frances next and then Kimberly will go to allow ruby to win

wintera Tue 08-Oct-13 21:49:08

I don't think you can ever say its clear cut though. Last year everyone thought the competition was definitely between James or Brendan and then John won it with a fantastic show stopper. I think Kimberley has a really good chance of winning it myself. Anyway, Ruby will probably have a crap week next week. I've noticed that those who win star baker one week normally have a Shit week the next.

capercaillie Tue 08-Oct-13 21:57:06

I have to wonder whether I'm watching the same programme as everyone else. I am amazed by the criticism and vitriol towards the contestants and judges - both here and on the GBBO Facebook site. I think many people are reading way too much into things - and projecting thoughts on to contestants and judges that probably aren't there. I've just disliked the Facebook page - it was spoiling my enjoyment of the show.

I thought Ruby's cake looked great and had some lively ideas - far now original than fondant icing.

wintera Tue 08-Oct-13 22:04:52

Caper - I agree, although I do think the Heavy handed editing helps people form those opinions unfortunately.

Yes. I am always a victim of editing.

I like Ruby, now Kathryn last year - there was a fake 'woe is me' whiny type and everybody loved her.

Ruby seems nice enough and is a consistently good baker. If some doofus was insulting me on Twitter I'd want right to reply too.
We're only seeing what is being edited anyway. I honestly don't think people would be as harsh on her if she wasn't so pretty, her looks are brought into most critical comments at some point, and she can't Exactly help her looks.

I actually think they're a decent bunch this year (normally there's at least one I can't stand). Kimberley is a bit competitive, but again, there's editing for you.

I so miss Howard, I loved him, such an endearing, nice man.

Echocave Tue 08-Oct-13 22:26:52

I've already commented on how it's edited because I felt a bit guilty for having called Kimberley smug after about the second episode so all i will say is that as a non-baker, I thought they were all really good tonight. I learned a lot about vegetable cake making! They were all really knowledgeable.
I think Ruby did make a lot of her cake from scratch and used quite a lot of different techniques so she probably did deserve star baker.

I think it's obviously been between Ruby and Kimberley since the first week (with a wild card Frances in the previous couple of weeks) but I think it's too close to call.

HoldMeCloserTonyDanza Tue 08-Oct-13 22:51:06

Oooooh Kimberly was ROBBED tonight!

I like Ruby (when she isn't moaning about how terrible she is) but you can't tell them they need to make a fabulously decorated 3D cake and then ignore the fact hers was practically falling apart.

I think Beca was lucky to make it through. Christine had won SB twice!

HoldMeCloserTonyDanza Tue 08-Oct-13 22:58:12

Also Paul Hollywood is talking too much. Feedback is always 90% him and then Mary gets half a sentence.

cansu Tue 08-Oct-13 23:00:20

It seemed clear that Paul was looking for a reason to dislike Christine's cake. He sounded like he didn't have a bloody clue and in the end started bumbling on about having just one strong flavour. I thought Christine was also disliked by Mary who has had a cats bum face for weeks when judging Christine. afraid that Ruby is just the favourite. It is a bit dull tbh. Her cake looked v amateur and they just completely ignored it.

HoldMeCloserTonyDanza Tue 08-Oct-13 23:10:58

And it was really unfair given that Christine made her own fondant and Beca just used shopbought.

And they kept criticising the cakes for being flavourless - you made them make them dairy free and made of vegetables of course they were all horrible

Pooka Tue 08-Oct-13 23:15:45

But Kimberly used a pre-formed tin and naff fondant icing. Thought her cake looked a bit like one out of the australian women's weekly kids cakes book, as did becca's. Frances made a great looking cake which didn't taste good. She said herself that she wanted to get the cake out of the way so she could concentrate on the decoration - missing the point of it being a baking programme rather than Cake Boss. Barely any icing and relying on the surprise dry carrot reveal. Becca's didn't taste good. Christine's was a bit dull. While Ruby's shed was a bit wonky, she'd used lots of processes and apparently tasted brill.

She also did a great technical round. She thinks about what she's doing technically - not piping the custard for example. Adding vinegar to the buttercream and so on.

I think people are being incredibly mean and I wish they'd stop obsessing about her looks.

I really like becca too, though wouldn't have fancied her cake because the mix of food colouring and revolting fondant makes me queasy.

AnneEyhtMeyer Tue 08-Oct-13 23:19:36

The only people who bring up her looks are her supporters.

I don't care what she looks like. The reason she is annoying is because she whines and fishes for compliments constantly.

Pooka Tue 08-Oct-13 23:27:06

But you yourself (quoting another poster) commented on her having the "right face for tv".

And a number of posters on this and previous thread have referred to Paul Hollywood fancying her. Obvious allusion to her looks.

Pah. Still like beca. But don't think she bakes as well or naturally as ruby.

Pooka Tue 08-Oct-13 23:30:48

And if you look at the other GBBO who will win? Thread there are several comments from detractors based on Ruby's looks. And a smattering of princess di/doe eyed comments.

Gracelo Wed 09-Oct-13 06:32:27

I like Ruby, I've said it before and I'm amazed how much dislike she generates, or Kimberley, I like her too. I like them all.
Her shed reminded me of James' barn too. What made all the difference for me with Ruby's signature bake was that all the stuff used for decorating was things I actually want to eat, the chocolate, those lovely slabs of almond for the roof, the poppy seeds...and all those pistachios in the cake, I love pistachios.
Whereas I don't like and don't eat if I can help it marsh mellow fondant or royal icing. I wouldn't want to eat any of the decoration on Beca's, Christine's or Kimberley's cake (can't remember Frances' now) so all that is left is the cake itself whereas with Ruby's there would be all the little other bits and pieces too.

wintera Wed 09-Oct-13 07:23:50

I'd never seen that marsh mallow icing thing before is that common? Have to say I didn't really like the look of it to be honest. But then I'm not a big marshmallow fan anyway.

ppeatfruit Wed 09-Oct-13 07:58:00

Gracelo Me too.

I also noticed how little commenting Mary was doing towards the end she should push in and speak BEFORE PH sometimes and Mel and Sue should say "What do YOU think Mary?" Maybe she had a bad throat confused

Gracelo Wed 09-Oct-13 07:58:14

It's very easy to make and to work with wintera there are recipes online for it I made it before for birthday cakes but even most children think it's too sweet.

ppeatfruit Wed 09-Oct-13 08:04:09

Oh I hate that highly sweet icing too grin Pre diabetes on a plate!!!

Mamf74 Wed 09-Oct-13 08:34:41

Did anyone else think Sue was really upset / annoyed when they were discussing the judging at the end? All felt very tense and spiky, a bit less good humoured all round I think.

Did wonder if this week may be the start of the news about PH's 'dalliance' as the show felt a bit off.

yesbutnobut Wed 09-Oct-13 09:03:49

I also thought it was less good-humoured last night, with PH posturing and MB not getting a word in. Also, though I'm sure Ruby's was a great cake, I thought it was telling that Kimberly and Beca were surprised PH said their cakes were bland - and of course the one thing viewers are not able to assess is taste.

wintera Wed 09-Oct-13 09:14:07

I think Sue did seem upset yes. Especially when discussing Frances in particular. Frances was very upset afterwards though. Someone else has said it on here but its really no surprise they all tasted crap, the ingredients sounded pretty awful. No way on this earth would I ever choose a cake that had beetroot in it! I'm with Miranda Hart on that one. Its a crime against nature!

ppeatfruit Wed 09-Oct-13 09:24:36

Why wintera ? Carrot cake is nice; it's just something some of us aren't used to. Chocolate and beetroot cake is LOVELY!!!grin

ppeatfruit Wed 09-Oct-13 09:26:25

I make really tasty cakes without butter,eggs or cream because I can't eat them oh also without wheat grin everyone likes them honest!!!

ppeatfruit Wed 09-Oct-13 09:27:50

Frances' carrots should've been marzipan!!

Bumpotato Wed 09-Oct-13 09:34:08

Ooh has Paul been a rotter?

I must say I've not watched GBBO before this series. I quite enjoy it though. I find Ruby irritating in the same way I find anyone IRL who seem to need constant reassurance annoying.

Although her cake didn't look fab, by the comments it must have tasted the best.

All the contestants have more baking talent in the tip of their pinky than I'll ever have though my kids and I have great fun creating our disasters

ppeatfruit Wed 09-Oct-13 09:36:59

Apart from talking too much in the judging I haven't noticed him being worse than normal grin

wintera Wed 09-Oct-13 09:37:53

Ppeat - carrot cake is indeed lovely. Beetroot on the other hand is the devil and has no business being in a cake!

AnneEyhtMeyer Wed 09-Oct-13 09:44:04

Carrot cake is disgusting. I'd rather eat the carrot.

AnneEyhtMeyer Wed 09-Oct-13 09:46:55

Oh and Pooka, quoting someone isn't saying it yourself. I said despite her "having the right face for tv" (quoting someone else, not saying it myself) she is unpopular with a lot of the public. Meaning her looks are irrelevant - her personality is off-putting and therefore I don't think she will make a successful public career.

ppeatfruit Wed 09-Oct-13 09:58:56

AnneEyth Ruby is young with low self esteem and very pretty (which can make it difficult to be viewed seriously). IMO she's being vilified unfairly I liked what she said about learning to cope with stress. Her baking is very good and that is what the programme is about isn't it?

AnneEyhtMeyer Wed 09-Oct-13 10:04:03

But that isn't fact is it? That is your opinion on the situation.

She is not really that young. She is an age when many people on this forum have left home, married and had children. She's already had a bit of a career and has lived independently. We're not talking about a 12 year old here.

As for the low self esteem, well that is definitely up for debate. She has modelled, so can't be that shy, and has entered a very competitive public competition, where she knows she will be judged and discussed. That is hardly the act of someone who has low self esteem. In my opinion, which is equally as valid as yours, if she genuinely had low self esteem she would be sat at home watching on the tv.

The judging was pretty harsh last night and I did feel really sorry for Francis. They have hooked onto this "style over substance" thing with her and now mention it for every bake. They were saying to Ruby "Don't tell us it's rubbish before we taste it", but every time poor Francis goes up they say "I really hope this is not going to be style over substance!!!" Poor woman. And asking them to create a 3D cake (whatever the hell that means) made of vegetables, then criticising them for looking better than that taste, is a bit rough! In saying that, I did Ruby 's, purely for the fact that it looks very edible, the whole lot!

They were obviously all quite stressed out by last night's episode. Beca hadn't even managed to practice her showstopper.

Fiderer Wed 09-Oct-13 11:11:12

Only the 2nd time I've watched it & enjoyed it again (esp now I've figured out who everyone is) but was surprised by:

PH seemed to be always in the middle in the judging bit (the bits at the individual baking stations iyswim) with MB on the edge and spoke the most & at length. I did wonder if it were the camera angle but I checked as it kept happening & it wasn't.

Cannot believe that the allotment cake won - it didn't look deliberately ramshackle, it looked badly finished.

ppeatfruit Wed 09-Oct-13 11:15:00

Well we'll agree to differ Anne there are ways of being pleasanter we are all just voicing our opinions as I said BTW there's no need to be confrontational unless it turns you on of course.

I did mention that TGBBO is a BAKING show and that's a fact. I reckon her friends and family pushed her hard to go for it because of her baking.

AnneEyhtMeyer Wed 09-Oct-13 11:27:00

Excuse me, I just pointed out that you were stating an opinion as fact. How is that unpleasant?

Goodness, I have no idea what your problem is. Disagreeing with someone isn't being confrontational. hmm

ppeatfruit Wed 09-Oct-13 11:49:07

Well it depends on how you do it IMHO grin

VikingVagine Wed 09-Oct-13 11:51:49

<throws a bun in for good measure>

wintera Wed 09-Oct-13 11:57:58

I have no idea if Ruby has low self esteem or not, I'm not quite sure myself but just because someone has low self esteem or a lack of confidence doesn't mean they wouldn't enter this type of competition at all. Sometimes people like that do things to test themselves so they are out of their comfort zone. I once did a singing course at my local college. There was a lady there who was very nervous who didn't particularly have a very good voice either. She had joined the class because it was her worst nightmare, singing in public, and she wanted to combat that fear.

ppeatfruit Wed 09-Oct-13 12:09:40

Quite wintera but if one is already judging one's baking negatively before it's judged (which Ruby has done actually it's not in my imagination) The judges commented on the fact she does it too. It does lead to the conclusion that that person has low self confidence.

ViviPru Wed 09-Oct-13 12:14:08

!!!CAKEFIGHT!!!

Seriously though - I feel really sorry for Frances. I try my hardest to draw my own conclusions beyond the editing and I think their critique of her is just lazy.

I liked Kimberly initially but now I find her way too self-assured. She reminds me of myself when I'm at my most viciously competitive yet trying desperately to conceal it. Not pretty.

Becca is the most consistent I think, and Ruby I can take or leave. I've accepted there's obviously some allure to her baking that isn't translating to the viewers. I agree with the poster upthread whose DH said she could make a dogturd ganache and Paul would find something to praise about it.

I miss Glenn sad

carabos Wed 09-Oct-13 12:16:33

I don't know if Ruby lacks self-confidence, it appears to me that she simply has that very annoying habit of self-deprecation which is drummed into some people from a certain section of society, to the point where they literally twist themselves into knots in order to avoid seeming boastful or big-headed.

I know a few people like this and it really isn't a confidence thing, it's perceived as good manners. It drives me bonkers.

wintera Wed 09-Oct-13 12:21:10

Out of all the others, I miss Howard the most. I loved Howard!

RussiansOnTheSpree Wed 09-Oct-13 12:25:02

carabos Ye. That's it exactly. It often happens to bright pretty women, too - always told not to get too big for their boots. That famous John Cleese scene in Fish Called Wanda where he explains about posh british embarrassment to Jamie Lee Curtis - the self deprecation thing is very similar. Ruby is nice, she's not up herself - but the world has changed around her while she's been growing up, and bigging yourself up is the new normal.

ppeatfruit Wed 09-Oct-13 12:36:25

Russians and carabos Do you reckon she's posh? Yes maybe I can see your POV There should be a happy medium between 'bigging yourself up"' and british self deprecation though!!

ppeatfruit Wed 09-Oct-13 12:39:55

To change the subject grin Beca saying how ambitious she is was interesting.

I still think if Frances could combine her stylishness with flavours she would win

AnneEyhtMeyer Wed 09-Oct-13 12:40:52

British self deprecation tends to be of the "oh, it was nothing, it was really simple, I just threw it together, it is nothing special, anyone could do it" variety rather than the "oh it is just awful / rubbish / terrible" variety though.

The first is modesty. The second comes across as fishing for compliments.

AnneEyhtMeyer Wed 09-Oct-13 12:42:53

Yes, I agree I was surprised with Beca's comment about being very ambitious.

PoppyAmex Wed 09-Oct-13 12:56:49

I still think Ruby would pout and tantrum when things don't go her way. If you look at her expression when she gets a slight criticism, you can see she's actually really annoyed, no trace of that self-flagellation/faux modesty thing.

We all know Paul Hollywood is a buffoon but now he's visibly getting nastier by the episode.

This is a shame because there's plenty of cooking/baking shows out there but I think GBBO's winning formula was the gentle "feel-good", positive and homely vibe. Not much of that.

I like Kimberley and although I didn't warm up to Frances initially I think she's been a really good sport about all the vicious criticism.

ViviPru Wed 09-Oct-13 13:05:16

This is a shame because there's plenty of cooking/baking shows out there but I think GBBO's winning formula was the gentle "feel-good", positive and homely vibe. Not much of that.

^^Yes, completely. It's all gone a bit sensationalist. I agree with whoever said upthread that Mel & Sue seemed a bit uneasy in the judging tent too.

AnneEyhtMeyer Wed 09-Oct-13 13:15:14

Totally agree with you, Poppy, especially this bit:

This is a shame because there's plenty of cooking/baking shows out there but I think GBBO's winning formula was the gentle "feel-good", positive and homely vibe. Not much of that.

I think both judges were unnecessarily mean last night.

RussiansOnTheSpree Wed 09-Oct-13 13:23:43

Anne I disagree on both counts. It's the 'oh, it was nothing' (tinkly laugh) which is false and comes across badly. The 'it's all going tits up! I'm rubbish! Oh no! It's my fault (for how could I presume to be a pretty brainy woman! What was I thinking!)' is the genuine article. It doesn't happen so much with posh people actually, my point was the process of drumming that sort of negative emotion in works the same for the 'I don't deserve/I am nothing' vibe as it does for the embarrassment vibe. This one is more female/male and it applies more to the pretty and bright than the plain and thick. There's a constant chip chip chip mantra of 'you're not so great. Don't get too big for your boots. You're nothing special. Don't display hubris (for the classically educated)' It's not even intentionally mean at this stage in the c21 (it wasn't intentionally mean in the 1980s even). It's culturally ingrained and I'd say, if anything, it was more prevalent in the working classes than the posh - but I have met posh people who lives have been blighted by this ingrained niggly worry that eats away at self confidence, too.

Many people are annoyed by this too, of course - but IMO they are usually mean or impatient people who completely lack empathy and often resent something about the person with compromised confidence (eg looks or ability). The new normal of bigging oneself up at every opportunity is very hard for people with compromised self confidence or a working knowledge of hubris. Or both.

Bearleigh Wed 09-Oct-13 13:44:51

People on other GBBO thread I frequent (!) have said that having seen Ruby, they are now practising saying 'thank you very much' when they get a compliment, rther than 'oh it was rubbish', now they know how annoying it is. Every cloud has a silver lining.

firesidechat Wed 09-Oct-13 13:46:03

I have to wonder whether I'm watching the same programme as everyone else. I am amazed by the criticism and vitriol towards the contestants and judges - both here and on the GBBO Facebook site. I think many people are reading way too much into things - and projecting thoughts on to contestants and judges that probably aren't there. I've just disliked the Facebook page - it was spoiling my enjoyment of the show.

I thought Ruby's cake looked great and had some lively ideas - far now original than fondant icing.

Have to agree caper. I always thought that I was the most cynical person I know, but I'm a bit amazed about some of the views on here. I've warmed a lot to Ruby over the course of the series and would be happy to see her win. Yes she is a bit under confident, but my children are about her age and I can empathise with her pre empting the judges decision with all her "oh it's rubbish" comments.

Also until we have taste-a-vision we can't possibly know whose cakes tasted the best. I loved the look of Becca's and was sad the it didn't taste great. It was probably a bit simple too. Kimberly isn't helping herself with her reactions to negative criticism. Her expressions seem to say that she thinks PH and MB don't know what they are talking about. I hope that is just manipulative editing though because I think she is quite good. Had a feeling that Christine would be leaving this week.

Although I do think that there was a slightly weird dynamic with PH and MB this week. They both seemed a bit tetchy and bad tempered.

ppeatfruit Wed 09-Oct-13 13:57:32

Russians IMO you're right about the culture of self deprecation and thinking about the people I know it does seem more prevalent in good looking people who seem to feel (or were told to feel)that their good looks are enough without being very good at something concrete.

We have 3 good looking and talented DCs (i'm shocking myself at even writing this !) But we never deliberately knocked them down; there are enough negative things in life without parents undermining their DCs confidence IMHO!!

wintera Wed 09-Oct-13 14:17:04

Going back to what somebody said upthread about Mary being annoyed that Frances hadn't made the little plantpots, I get the feeling that Mary thinks you should be able to eat everything that's presented. Last year she said something similar to Brendan when he made that bird house. He used mini shredded wheat On the top and she was not happy. Although I myself thought it looked really good and like a little thatched roof! I remember her being annoyed that she couldn't eat it though.

coffeeinbed Wed 09-Oct-13 14:26:11

One thing that annoyed me was the 3D cake.
All cakes are 3D IRL aren't they!
Unless it's a photograph of a cake.

coffeeinbed Wed 09-Oct-13 14:32:14

One thing that annoyed me was the 3D cake.
All cakes are 3D IRL aren't they!
Unless it's a photograph of a cake.

coffeeinbed Wed 09-Oct-13 14:38:54

Sorry!

firesidechat Wed 09-Oct-13 17:02:37

I think there is a difference between a 3 D cake and a 2 D one. For instance the toadstool cake that Kimberly did could have been like a picture of a toadstool ie flat on the cake board, rather than one that you can see in all dimensions.

Hope this works. I don't have much luck with links.

This 2 D:

http://www.pinterest.com/pin/17310779788827325/

and this is 3 D:

http://www.pinterest.com/pin/17310779788025745/

firesidechat Wed 09-Oct-13 17:05:14
firesidechat Wed 09-Oct-13 17:08:19

Yeh!

That was the 3 D one.

The 2 D one would be like this:

www.pinterest.com/pin/17310779788827325/

I once did a 2 D Winnie the Pooh and that was hard enough. A 3 D one would have finished me of.

So wasnt Christines guitar more 2d than 3d?

firesidechat Wed 09-Oct-13 17:30:44

Well I suppose you could say that, although guitars are that shape and that deep I guess.

Perhaps that's another good reason for her to leave this week. She didn't really explore the full potential of 3D. Even I could have done Christine's cake and that's saying something.

No I agree that she had reached her limit, I liked her guitar, but felt it was the simplest cake there.

Not convinced by Sweet Potato cake tbh, love carrot and beetroot. Anyone tried making one? Whats it like?

VikingVagine Wed 09-Oct-13 18:07:52

I've never made a cake using sweet potato (I do make a reasonable chocolate and beetroot cake though <false modesty>) , I'd be worried about the texture, beetroot and carrots add moisture, sweet potato might just stick to the roof of your mouth or make it really heavy.

I agree the guitar wasn't reaaaaaally a 3D cake.

CecyHall Wed 09-Oct-13 18:29:42

I definitely don't think this series is as warm as previous ones, but I'm not sure why.

I don't particularly like any of them this year so maybe that's the reason but i also felt that Sue seemed a bit pissed off last night and it didn't feel as good spirited as usual.

I'm also a bit hmm about Ruby whinging about her exams, I'm sure they weren't sprung on her as a surprise so she had a fair idea that she'd need to juggle 2 busy agendas (I can't think of good English at the moment but you know what I mean).

junobaby74 Wed 09-Oct-13 19:01:18

I really like Ruby I think she 's lovely and her baking must taste great, after all she also came top in the blind tested technical bake too. However at least twice now she's made something that's looked utter rubbish and has got tons of praise for it. It happened a few weeks ago when Howard got criticised for something he made, they fell over themselves to pull it apart and I thought 'oh no what will they say about Ruby's, it looks crap also' but they did not say a thing. In fact they loved it beyond belief. Same again last night. Patently not fair, going off the programme.

Gracelo Wed 09-Oct-13 19:13:07

viking I have a recipe for muffins with sweet potato (and honey and orange oil) and they are lovely. I had quite a few requests for the recipe and most people are surprised to find out it has sweet potato in it. The sweet potato kind of disappears during baking adding structure.
Didn't someone make a parsnip cake once on GBBO or am I imagining this?

Ooo could you post the recipie Gracelo? I`d love to try it, the honey and orange oil sound lovely.

Gracelo Wed 09-Oct-13 19:59:50

Sure, no problem onestepcloser We should have a GBBO inspired recipe thread.
This is from a Sainsbury's magazine about 2-3 years ago.

Sweet potato and honey cupcakes

50 g honey
100 g light brown sugar
100 g soft butter
1 teaspoon orange essence
2 medium eggs
150 g sweet potatoes, coarsly grated (peeled weight)
200 g self raising flour
1 teaspoon mixed spice
125 g chopped dried apricots

Beat butter, sugar, honey, orange essence until fluffy, add eggs, mix well, add all dry ingredients. I only use about half of the apricots because I find it a bit much otherwise.
I didn't write down oven temperature and time but I bake them at ~175 C until they look done.

Icing (I'm not very fond of icing so I usually eat them as they are):

75 g soft butter
150 g icing sugar
zest of 2 oranges
25 g clear honey

demisemiquaver Wed 09-Oct-13 23:40:45

I HONESTLY DONT think the judging is biased AT ALL and I luuuuuuuved Ruby's plot and shack .....cant decide now if she's really nervous and/or fishing for compliments tho

RussiansOnTheSpree Wed 09-Oct-13 23:50:14

I'm certain she's not fishing for compliments. I have known many young women with ingrained lack of confidence (I was like that myself). She seems fairly typical of a very standard personality type. On top of that, she is absolutely lovely on twitter - very polite and just basically, a totally nice girl. Several of the bakers actually seem to be realy lovely, going by their twitter feeds and blogs. Ad most of them seem to get on with each other too which is lovely. It's just a really nice show, which attracts nice contestants. I bet if there was a knitting show it would be full of nice people too - knitters are always nice.

VikingVagine Thu 10-Oct-13 06:04:31

Ooh, if there are any producers out there, could we have a Great British Knit Off please?

ppeatfruit Thu 10-Oct-13 09:14:08

As you know I agree Russians.

WRF to 'free from' baking it's important to put in maple syrup or honey etc. and ground almonds because they stop the cake crumbling up .You can buy good gluten free\wheat free baking powder now which works well. Because I cook entirely like that I noticed that Kamut flour wasn't mentioned which makes amazing bread (i mix it with rice flour) It has a small amount of gluten though as does spelt but DH is miles better on it. normal wheat makes him exhausted and grumpy grin.

outtolunchagain Thu 10-Oct-13 09:17:55

I accept that she was probably provoked , but I don't think calling someone an evil witch is very nice behaviour which is apparently what Ruby did yesterday on Twittershock

I do think that she is pretty clever and Sussed quite quickly that the doe eyed , silly me approach was working very well with the judges , shame really because she would still be leader of the pack without that stuff.

She has modelled at a very high level and is at UCL , I doubt she lacks that much confidence .

outtolunchagain Thu 10-Oct-13 09:23:48

Great British knitting would be fantastic grinbut rather slow for the viewers I would think, maybe crochet?wink

ppeatfruit Thu 10-Oct-13 09:37:43

I don't reckon anyone can act THAT well though outtolunch.

outtolunchagain Thu 10-Oct-13 09:47:46

I don't think she is acting , it's just her way of getting attention , if someone gets positive feedback from acting a certain way then they continue doing it . But it is annoying for others and I think that she does young women a disservice .

unfortunately I think she is getting more stick because the whole PH leering thing has taken on an unpleasant flavour given his recent history

outtolunchagain Thu 10-Oct-13 09:50:20

Also plenty of people can act that well , look at all the actors out there , if she's tried modelling and her photos are very good ( think top glossies) then she can act .

PoppyAmex Thu 10-Oct-13 10:41:59

I'm still stomping my feet at all the indignity this year.

The whole Ruby, PH and dodgy judging affair is ruining it.

It's meant o be a gentle program with lovely people and no more controversy then mild arguments on how to best make your meringues glossy. <pouts>

RussiansOnTheSpree Thu 10-Oct-13 11:07:27

outtolunch She modelled briefly. Being at UCL (indeed, being a model) does not in any way preclude lack of self confidence. Often, the highest achievers are the least confident (sometimes because of Tall Poppy Syndrome, which is clearly at play in this thread). My cambridge college was full of women with shot self confidence and esteem issues, as it happens.

outtolunchagain Thu 10-Oct-13 11:28:38

Well neither of us know her or her motivations and I am sure she is lovely , however there is no doubt that her manner is making her unpopular with viewers and provoking comment and that is unfortunate as she is clearly very talented.

As I say I think part of this stems from people seeing PHs behaviour in a different light .

VikingVagine - I would love a Great British Knit Off too - especially in the wake of the Great British Sewing Bee - but I am not sure you could complete a project in time for it to fit into the programme. I know I couldn't. Though if they were small projects, perhaps...

I am coming round to Ruby, but I was utterly aghast at the judges talking about style over substance, to Frances, in a round where they were specifically asking for the sort of style that she does so well. Humph!

I am beginning to think that Ruby might win - partly because I am seeing a bit of bias towards her from PH, but also partly because she is getting better, and she is good at the technical bakes.

One last thing - a question for you (and I will abide by your judgement). Given that I have not one, but two GBBO books from previous series, and have baked nothing from either book, can I still get myself this series' book - please?!

RussiansOnTheSpree Thu 10-Oct-13 11:43:38

Of course you can. Books are always good.

I don't quite understand what you mean about Ruby getting better since going on the technical rounds alone (so avoiding the possibility of bias) she has been clearly the best from about week 3. She really does have by far the strongest performance in that blind tasted, fully ranked, round.

fancyanother Thu 10-Oct-13 11:45:20

SDTG I have the original GBBO book and make about 2 things from it regularly, and the Jo Wheatley book which I have made about 2 things from, but I can spend ages thumbing through the pages looking at the pictures and imagining that I am going to make them someday. They are worth it just for that! Buy it! ( I may not though- I find Jo Wheatley a bit simpering for my liking too, even in book form so I don't think I could take Rubys book!)

Gracelo Thanks for posting the recipie, I will have a go at this this weekend, I have a sweet potato sitting waiting to be used smile

ppeatfruit Thu 10-Oct-13 14:37:00

I still say that PH looks at most people in that way; play back the other GBBO's he does it ALL the time i will not have a word said against Ruby (stamps foot too!!!)

sparklesandbling Thu 10-Oct-13 15:56:05

I would like to know if Ruby's chocolate was dairy free or not. If it was then fine but if not then it should have been taken into account when judging.

sparklesandbling Thu 10-Oct-13 15:56:36

I missed if she said what it was either way

RussiansOnTheSpree Thu 10-Oct-13 16:08:33

I wanted to know the same thing about Frances's chocolate sauce, too. They didn't say about either. However it is perfectly easy to get vegan dark chocolate, you can get it from any supermarket, so I'm guessing it was. And I'm not actually 100% sure the brief was a vegan cake, it was a vegetable cake. From what they were saying, vegetable cakes always use oil because that's what you use for vegetable cakes. After all, they could've done a dairy free cake that wasn't a vegetable cake. So I think it was the ability to bake with vegetables that was being tested not the ability to bake something I'd want to eat (I wouldn't have wanted to eat any of them!)

ppeatfruit Thu 10-Oct-13 16:40:30

The description given the contestants was confusing tbh (although they'd obviously been primed so didn't seem to be confused) it wasn't just me then?

sparklesandbling Thu 10-Oct-13 16:51:13

I think I am confused as to what the cake was supposed to be free from as some of the other contestants made a point of saying they were making dairy free icing (I think I remember) could be wrong thou

VikingVagine Thu 10-Oct-13 17:04:49

I've got both GBBO books, the first one in paper, the second on kindle. I never use the kindle one as you can't just flick through it. I do make quite a few things from the first one though, and will probably buy the next one too.

RussiansOnTheSpree Thu 10-Oct-13 17:33:23

Icing is dairy free anyway. Frances said she was making dairy free chocolate sauce BUT she was referring to the coconut cream she was using, the chocolate looked suspiciously pale to me. Which was what got me thinking.

VikingVagine Thu 10-Oct-13 19:05:24

hi, jumping in late. Did anyone else think that Sue looked really teary when she announced Star Baker? I noticed last week that she was when she had to tell Glenn he was going, but she seemed the same this week and didn't have the nasty job.

All is not well behind the scenes I think.

VikingVagine Thu 10-Oct-13 19:21:11

Definitely different atmosphere this year, Sue isn't her usual perky self at all.

PoppyAmex Thu 10-Oct-13 20:03:15

Did anyone notice PH being seriously snappy with Sue when they were discussing the judging at the end and she said something like "a hard decision to make" and he snapped:

"Well that's for me and Mary to discuss!"

Quangle Thu 10-Oct-13 20:07:29

yes and, when they were announcing the results of one of the challenges (I think the second one of the three) Mary was standing with her eyes closed for a long time. She was not happy. And also slightly croaky so maybe a bit ill.

I really absolutely should get some sort of life grin

ppeatfruit Fri 11-Oct-13 08:17:22

Thanks for the blog Viking It was enlightening in that he mentions his partner Chris does it every other week (explains why last week's was boring and almost devoid of humour grin).

Gracelo Fri 11-Oct-13 08:47:38

So, if attractive people doing a degree at a decent university can't possibly have self confidence issue does that mean less attractive people at a rubbish university are doomed to a live of low self esteem misery?
I've been pondering this for a few days now.

Lizzabadger Fri 11-Oct-13 23:56:28

There was an odd bit in the free-from episode where Paul was talking and Mary suddenly reached across and touched Sue's hand, as though to stop her talking or something.

TheOnlyOliviaMumsnet (MNHQ) Sat 12-Oct-13 00:00:49

lurkity lurk

PumpUpMyVolume Sat 12-Oct-13 12:30:47

Are you lurking for business or pleasure, Olivia? Its all got quite heated for a GBBO discussion smile

VikingVagine Sat 12-Oct-13 12:53:35

They should have had an Eid week this week. <drools at the idea of honey on everything>

TheOnlyOliviaMumsnet (MNHQ) Sat 12-Oct-13 14:56:49

PumpUpMyVolume

Are you lurking for business or pleasure, Olivia? Its all got quite heated for a GBBO discussion smile

Well it was for pleasure actually. I was under enforced rest last week and watched the whole series in one go having never watched before.

I would assume that anyone on a GBBO thread would be adhering strictly like gluten strands tenuous link to our talk guidelines <Mary Berry Stern Face>

VikingVagine Sat 12-Oct-13 16:42:38

<quickly hides the buns previously being lobbed>

demisemiquaver Sun 13-Oct-13 09:10:42

am saying this before next episode........really dont think there's any flirtation by paul or ruby.....some of the comments above wouldn't be out of place in some period novel with a 'scandal' taking place that hadn't really happened,ending up with ruined lives due to gossipmongering

DSJamesHathaway Sun 13-Oct-13 09:24:33

I think Mary and possibly Paul had colds in last week's episode. Hence the grumpiness and declaring everything to taste bland.

Lizzabadger Sun 13-Oct-13 09:45:52

I agree DSQ.

Good point about the colds and blandness DSJH. I found it hard to see how Christine's, with shed-loads of spice in it, could be bland.

birdbrain21 Sun 13-Oct-13 11:48:59

marking my place for this weeks episode, I have a lot to say about ruby and everyone else but too tired to get into an argument today, however may have to boycott the bbc if unhappy with the winner!

VikingVagine Sun 13-Oct-13 11:58:42

Yes yes, they were clearly recovering from a hangover cold grin

RussiansOnTheSpree Sun 13-Oct-13 12:02:41

birdbrain I think you should definitely boycott the BBC. Probably right away. That'll show 'em.

DSJamesHathaway Sun 13-Oct-13 19:18:07

Just rewatching and I think Beca should have been star baker this week. I hope she gets it next week or wins the series.

RussiansOnTheSpree Sun 13-Oct-13 20:11:44

On what basis do you think Beca should have been star baker? She came second to last in the technical and her cake tasted so bad that PH suspected she had messed up her measurements either in the receipe or while making it. The reason she wasn't kicked out is that her bread was great and Christine's bread fell apart.

BergholtStuttleyJohnson Sun 13-Oct-13 20:46:04

I seem to be in a minority but I really like Ruby. She's amazing for a twenty year old and given that the others are way more experienced than her she probably does think she'd be shit compared to them. I don't think she's fake, I think she's an introvert so isn't comfortable expressing herself very well so it comes across as a bit fake looking. I think Kimberly should have been star baker this week though. Frances or Ruby to win!

PoppyAmex Tue 15-Oct-13 07:00:06

Kimberley is far Prettier

He's such a buffoon and so very inappropriate!

yesbutnobut Tue 15-Oct-13 08:50:48

I wonder what this evening will bring? French theme so should be good. Beca to go tonight no doubt.

ArtisanLentilWeaver Tue 15-Oct-13 11:23:51

I honestly don't think Mary would tolerate beauty over ability as she is a consummate professional.
Good luck to them all tonight.

nipersvest Tue 15-Oct-13 11:28:02

i may be wrong but as the show is pre-recorded and they already know who has won, i reckon its ruby. there's been a few articles in the press over the weekend along the lines of 'no, i don't fancy paul hollywood', and the one poppy linked to, bbc are attempting to address the whole favouritism thing before the final airs.

RussiansOnTheSpree Tue 15-Oct-13 11:28:26

Mary seems to be the one most annoyed about Frances's baking so I think it might be fair to say she doesn't tolerate beauty over taste, either! grin

I do find it funny that people are annoyed that PH said Ruby wasn't his type but are fine with her saying the exact same thing in a different interview this week (which has also been widely reported). Doubtless both of them were asked the question and replied in as polite a way as possible. I'm sure neither would have offered the information unprompted.

Having looked at a few of the reader comments on that link also find it funny that people keep on keeping on about the appearance of Ruby's shed (saying things like they could have baked it - I'm thinking not, actually) when it was clear that her cake was the only one that tasted ok - they had no choice but to make her star baker given that Kimberley's cake tasted bad and given the results of the technical challenge.

I see no obvious reason why Becca should go out tonight though, I'd've said Frances was in far more danger.

VikingVagine Tue 15-Oct-13 13:07:48

I don't think anyone on here had alluded to Ruby fancying PH, yes Daily Mail I'm looking at you because IT'S THE OTHER WAY ROUND ffs.

RussiansOnTheSpree Tue 15-Oct-13 13:17:56

There have been plenty of accusations of mutual flirting all over the media, the internet and twitter. It's quite obvious neither one fancies the other. The only person even slightly flirty is Kimberley and that's clearly just 'her way' (extrovert).

Lizzabadger Tue 15-Oct-13 18:36:13

Kimberley's cake didn't taste bad. PH said it was excellent iirc.

PumpUpMyVolume Tue 15-Oct-13 19:48:42

I would like Ruby to go.this evening - not because she deserves to as such but that would totally throw the competition open to-kimberly

I agree with Beca being the one most likely to go but we shall see grin

(i really don't like Rick Stein particularly but what he's making right now looks delicious!)

VikingVagine Tue 15-Oct-13 19:56:23

Right, I'm going to miss the first five minutes as the TV is being hogged by DS who wants to finish watching his thing first angry so I'll need a detailed running commentary please people grin

PumpUpMyVolume Tue 15-Oct-13 20:01:50

Kimberly is wearing a very short skirt grin mel & sue seem up for it.. there's a tent!

PumpUpMyVolume Tue 15-Oct-13 20:02:37

Mel & Sue just spoke French - beautifully! i just LOVE them

PumpUpMyVolume Tue 15-Oct-13 20:03:34

Frances is wearing fierce lipstick! And they're off!

sophieandbrendantowinstrictly Tue 15-Oct-13 20:03:46

Mel & sue both seem very fluent at French!!

Mary, sue and mel look absolutely spiffing in this episode!

PumpUpMyVolume Tue 15-Oct-13 20:04:22

Oh & they're making canapes with lots of different pastries!

VikingVagine Tue 15-Oct-13 20:04:51

Ok, am here, dammit I wanted to hear their French! So, sofas eh?

Weeantwee Tue 15-Oct-13 20:05:44

Marking my place smile

Anyone else feel really annoyed that they don't have any cakes, chocolate or biscuits to munch on whilst watching this? I'm eating grapes hmm it's just not the same

WipsGlitter Tue 15-Oct-13 20:06:57

Ruby needs to open her mouth more when she speaks

VikingVagine Tue 15-Oct-13 20:06:59

I have nougat, which is making me happy.

Ive got ferrero rocher weeantwee

difficultpickle Tue 15-Oct-13 20:07:11

Has Ruby been tangoed? She seems very orange tonight.

coffeeinbed Tue 15-Oct-13 20:07:36

I've been saving an eclair and a glass of wine.

difficultpickle Tue 15-Oct-13 20:08:05

seems? I meant looks, doh.

PumpUpMyVolume Tue 15-Oct-13 20:08:17

Frances is making cauliflower, tomato & carrot things - style on the substance!

Ruby making biccies, tarts & choux buns... She looks scary apparently hmm

Kimberly has gone with Chinese dim sum French style (sounds so nice)

and Beca is going for savour macaroons, savour choux buns & Welsh rare-bit...

Right going to watch it now grin

Weeantwee Tue 15-Oct-13 20:08:55

The closest I can get to anything tasty is hot chocolate powder.

I might get a gin though, that will help.

coffeeinbed Tue 15-Oct-13 20:08:59

Oh, talking of lipstick, according to Grazia Rachel Khoo's lipstick is Tom Fords's Cherry Lush.
As we were...

Team Beca checkung in but I fear tonight will be her swansong sad I smell a fix and a contract for a book and a series for Ruby sad

That's it PH you knobber, roll your eyes when talking to nice style over substance girl yet lean forward and do the leariness when speaking to poor Ruby!

Will William Hill take bets on her coming over all self depreciating tonight?

The canapes all sound a bit ick to me.

VikingVagine Tue 15-Oct-13 20:10:27

I've got one of those cake pop trays. Useless for cake pops. Maybe I can find another use for it.

ClaraOswald Tue 15-Oct-13 20:10:34

i like the sound of Kimberleys steamed buns

VikingVagine Tue 15-Oct-13 20:11:26

Love the floury face!

Ooh err clara! smile

cwrw Felinfoel Beca smile Da iawn ti smile

coffeeinbed Tue 15-Oct-13 20:13:29

How's steamed buns in French?

PumpUpMyVolume Tue 15-Oct-13 20:13:53

They all look a bit shaky!

VikingVagine Tue 15-Oct-13 20:14:00

Frances' are beautiful.

ClaraOswald Tue 15-Oct-13 20:15:18

Yay for Kimberley!

I like frances. Ive always room for a bit of nonsense. Her and becca are my faves now christines gone.

VikingVagine Tue 15-Oct-13 20:16:37

Not brilliant for Ruby.

wishingitwasfriday Tue 15-Oct-13 20:16:57

'Clever girl'! She's a woman for gods sake!

Weeantwee Tue 15-Oct-13 20:17:21

For goodness sakes Ruby, smile a while will ya!

wishingitwasfriday Tue 15-Oct-13 20:17:35

They don't seem to like Becca do they?

sad Beca

coffeeinbed Tue 15-Oct-13 20:18:01

Not going well for Becca.

sophieandbrendantowinstrictly Tue 15-Oct-13 20:18:19

Wow Frances they look fab!

I think this is all getting predictable....

wishingitwasfriday Tue 15-Oct-13 20:19:09

Yay for Frances!

PumpUpMyVolume Tue 15-Oct-13 20:19:29

Pwoooorgh - Kimberly's and Frances' looked amazing

coffeeinbed Tue 15-Oct-13 20:19:38

Well done Frances!!

Despite the astroturf, if I might add.

VikingVagine Tue 15-Oct-13 20:19:41

My nougat suddenly isn't quite cutting it.

<drool>

VikingVagine Tue 15-Oct-13 20:20:45

ROFL

PumpUpMyVolume Tue 15-Oct-13 20:20:54

Derriere comme une peche grin

Too funny!

VikingVagine Tue 15-Oct-13 20:21:25

Arse like a peach indeed,

coffeeinbed Tue 15-Oct-13 20:21:39

My mum used to make it with shop bought swiss roll.

Hello I'm de lurking to say I wish Ruby would stop looking so miserable/petulant.

Why don't they like Becca?? I like Frances.

VikingVagine Tue 15-Oct-13 20:22:21

Oh they are delicious!

VikingVagine Tue 15-Oct-13 20:24:39

Ruby' scroll looks undercooked.

Gracelo Tue 15-Oct-13 20:24:50

A Bavaroise, I must have a gene for that
I haven't made a Charlotte for aaaages.

VikingVagine Tue 15-Oct-13 20:25:38

I'm not even going to correct that auto correct.

Oooh Kimberley's looks yummy.

coffeeinbed Tue 15-Oct-13 20:27:15

We used to make that too, and turn in out, in a big round cake tin, one of those with a tube..it was great.
Blimey, i'm sliding down memory lane tonight.

PumpUpMyVolume Tue 15-Oct-13 20:27:33

love the fact Mel Sue are just mates having fun... that was a genuine belly laugh grin

CbeebiesIsMyLife Tue 15-Oct-13 20:27:38

It's not going well for ruby thlconfused

CbeebiesIsMyLife Tue 15-Oct-13 20:28:33

It's like she's resigned to going?

She's very TV presentery isn't she?

Kimberley, I mean!

awaynboilyurheid Tue 15-Oct-13 20:29:01

Kimberly is so overly competitive , sounds like fun really? So pleased for Francis for her canapés being great really enjoying it tonight but feel sad that someone will miss final as they all so talented

ClaraOswald Tue 15-Oct-13 20:29:07

What the hell has happened to Ruby????

I don't actually like her, but she is really off her game!

VikingVagine Tue 15-Oct-13 20:29:10

Ruby is in big trouble!

EmpireBiscuit Tue 15-Oct-13 20:30:38

Kimberley is doing my head in - I hope it's bad editing and that she doesn't go through life coming across as such a know it all.

Will Ruby do an amazing show stopper and Becca be sent home?

ClaraOswald Tue 15-Oct-13 20:30:47

Kimberley's looks lovely!

if they like rubies its a fix!!

awaynboilyurheid Tue 15-Oct-13 20:31:56

Will cry if Ruby goes out she is so young and unsure at times she doesnt know how good she really is

If Ruby doesn't make the final I will run naked to the pub at the end of my road.
Moi cynical? ;)

CbeebiesIsMyLife Tue 15-Oct-13 20:33:14

If ruby doesn't go it's a fix!

I dont fancy the look of that though. Even Kimberlys perfect one

I think its so skewed against Beca

ShoeJunkie Tue 15-Oct-13 20:34:24

Sue is loving the French accent!

PumpUpMyVolume Tue 15-Oct-13 20:34:51

Opera cake... WTF confused

coffeeinbed Tue 15-Oct-13 20:34:56

It's that goop they put on top.
i'm not having that on my cake..

awaynboilyurheid Tue 15-Oct-13 20:35:42

Lol at she's not a looker

VikingVagine Tue 15-Oct-13 20:35:43

No history bit?

ShoeJunkie Tue 15-Oct-13 20:35:44

Never heard of opera cake!

ShoeJunkie Tue 15-Oct-13 20:37:11

Come on Becca!

Becca seems a bit sad in this episode I think.

difficultpickle Tue 15-Oct-13 20:37:59

Opera cake

I wonder if they have to write it on too? Could be a spelling challenge again!

Gigondas Tue 15-Oct-13 20:38:22

I am no beca fan but if ruby stays over her, it's a fix.

VikingVagine Tue 15-Oct-13 20:38:34

Ruby's sounds boring.

Weeantwee Tue 15-Oct-13 20:39:31

I'm sure they have done opera cakes in previous series. I remember someone making a spelling mistake!

coffeeinbed Tue 15-Oct-13 20:40:11

Oh Becca why!
Why!!

ShoeJunkie Tue 15-Oct-13 20:40:19

Becca looks like she's going to cry.

difficultpickle Tue 15-Oct-13 20:40:27

That was Sachertorte - more letters to get wrong than opera grin

VikingVagine Tue 15-Oct-13 20:40:34

Season 2, raspberry and chocolate opera cake (in the book), lovely.

Im really sick of paul 'im a gigantic twat' hollywood.

awaynboilyurheid Tue 15-Oct-13 20:40:44

Wish people would stop with the fix fixation it's not a fix you don't taste them we can only look

BeaLola Tue 15-Oct-13 20:41:02

I have this on record to watch when DH gets in but i love Becca, Ruby is misery skinny bean and kimberley ultra annoying ..... Go Beccnab but feel fixed for Ruby as Pauls favourite .....

VikingVagine Tue 15-Oct-13 20:41:13

Kimberly is clearly star baker.

Weeantwee Tue 15-Oct-13 20:41:23

bisjo that was it. Don't blame them for typos so much

they are sooo down on Beca am finding the whole thing is making me cross

coffeeinbed Tue 15-Oct-13 20:41:52

I know, he seems to be deluded regarding his importance in the baking, pastry and TV world.

ShoeJunkie Tue 15-Oct-13 20:43:38

The history bit!

Weeantwee Tue 15-Oct-13 20:43:47

Haha at 'spite Paul'

PumpUpMyVolume Tue 15-Oct-13 20:43:48

Ruby needs to cheer up - good grief

VikingVagine Tue 15-Oct-13 20:43:53

Just to spite Paul, ha! At least she's honest!

He just thinks hes so ace. Hes like one of those apes with the giant red and blue arses.

Ruby is so sulky, like a petulant child.

PumpUpMyVolume Tue 15-Oct-13 20:47:47

Lady Bakers grin for some reason, that sounds rude!

ShoeJunkie Tue 15-Oct-13 20:48:46

They all seem on the cusp of a break down over the opera cakes!

awaynboilyurheid Tue 15-Oct-13 20:48:47

Ruby's not sulky she's just unsure it's a lot of pressure for a young person

strawberriesandplumbs Tue 15-Oct-13 20:48:50

Who bakes in a denim jacket?

difficultpickle Tue 15-Oct-13 20:48:57

Beca has just lost it. Those banana chip chunks are not a good idea in the middle of a cake.

difficultpickle Tue 15-Oct-13 20:49:48

Very impressed at Frances' writing.

Frances really seems to enjoy her baking.

VikingVagine Tue 15-Oct-13 20:50:43

It's all going to be in the taste between ruby and Bcca.

difficultpickle Tue 15-Oct-13 20:51:08

Why hasn't Kimberley written on her cake? Will she get in trouble?

WipsGlitter Tue 15-Oct-13 20:52:56

Kimberly always looks slightly incredulous that they don't fall at her feet in amazement.

ShoeJunkie Tue 15-Oct-13 20:52:57

I was wondering about the writing!
Not great on taste so far.

ShoeJunkie Tue 15-Oct-13 20:53:04

I was wondering about the writing!
Not great on taste so far.

Ruby could poo on a plate and Paul would rave about it.

Becca is going.

VikingVagine Tue 15-Oct-13 20:54:40

Artificial banana = condom flavoured.

WipsGlitter Tue 15-Oct-13 20:54:42

Beca's out I'm afraid.

difficultpickle Tue 15-Oct-13 20:54:48

Beca's gone sad

Weeantwee Tue 15-Oct-13 20:54:50

grin hob

coffeeinbed Tue 15-Oct-13 20:54:55

Ruby had a disaster week, but it seems she'll go through and Becca won't.

PumpUpMyVolume Tue 15-Oct-13 20:55:13

Surely ruby needs to go - was close though between her & Beca

VikingVagine Tue 15-Oct-13 20:56:12

Becca has to go.

oh FFS I am cross. Ruby's was shit and yet they are saying it was the best.

They really don't like Becca and I feel like Paul doesn't really want to like Frances.

ShoeJunkie Tue 15-Oct-13 20:56:31

This is the point where usually fast forward!

TonytheFish Tue 15-Oct-13 20:56:31

*WipsGlitter Tue 15-Oct-13 20:52:56
Kimberly always looks slightly incredulous that they don't fall at her feet in amazement.*

Yep, that is why I dont like Kimberly!

I do like Ruby though, and Beca, either of them to win I would be happy...

I think however Kimberly is safe this week...it will be between the other 3...Frances had the style but not the taste, Ruby the taste but not the Style, and Beca they just seem to find something to be disappointed with every week.

Kimberly's did look good...but looked something for a kids bday party....

Weeantwee Tue 15-Oct-13 20:57:01

Nooooooooo

ShoeJunkie Tue 15-Oct-13 20:57:09

Noooooo!

Very unfair! They were so down on becca

PumpUpMyVolume Tue 15-Oct-13 20:57:12

Arghhhhhhhhh angry

coffeeinbed Tue 15-Oct-13 20:57:14

Well, here we go.

difficultpickle Tue 15-Oct-13 20:57:23

sad cake

Corygal Tue 15-Oct-13 20:57:23

I loathe Ruby - spoilt toddler to the max. Poor Becca - sacrificed to the needs of Paul's cock.

Lilypad7 Tue 15-Oct-13 20:57:29

Ruby's sad puppy face is boring... Give it a rest!

VikingVagine Tue 15-Oct-13 20:57:34

Ruby will win.

She was going from the first challenge this episode. sad

CbeebiesIsMyLife Tue 15-Oct-13 20:58:10

It just feels like each week they have deliberately foun something to pick on becca about. She was my fav.

Hopefully Tue 15-Oct-13 20:58:14

God I hate the Ruby-adulation. I'm sure she's not as irritating in real life as she appears in GBBO, but she can do no wrong!!

sad I really wanted Becca to win, just a bad day. Would LOVE a night out with her, bet she's a hoot.

ShoeJunkie Tue 15-Oct-13 20:58:34

sad

puggle01 Tue 15-Oct-13 20:58:35

Pah! Outraged for Beca

Doinmummy Tue 15-Oct-13 20:58:37

I'm really fed up with Ruby. She should have gone not Becca

really disappointed with this series sooooo cross

Weeantwee Tue 15-Oct-13 20:58:55

Ruby is going to end up with a modelling contract and be the only model in the world to eat a cake

poorbuthappy Tue 15-Oct-13 20:59:25

Well what to say?
Apart from that if Ruby wins then I will stop paying my tv licence.

That's Loraine Pascale isn't it. hmm

VikingVagine Tue 15-Oct-13 20:59:43

Ruby is overall good on flavours, the one thing we really can't judge on.

WipsGlitter Tue 15-Oct-13 20:59:53

I'm all tearful.

I don't think Ruby will win though.

Mi d you Brendan was robbed last year, ROBBED.

awaynboilyurheid Tue 15-Oct-13 21:00:18

Hob that's really unfair all that work and you say that about a young girl

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Pooka Tue 15-Oct-13 21:00:50

Ruby adulation? Don't see it I'm afraid. See lots of comments anti-her.

Looked rubbish, but tasted great (according to Mary and Paul).

Like Becca very much. But the cake seemed quite heavy looking and clearly tasted of synthetic banana (according to judges).

Ruby had a lucky escape.

Pooka Tue 15-Oct-13 21:01:39

Madamcastafiore

That's a really vile comment.

Hopefully Tue 15-Oct-13 21:05:39

pooka I meant on gbbo, not here! grin

Theyvall worked and I am entitled to express the opinion that I feel the judging is biased.

awaynboilyurheid Tue 15-Oct-13 21:06:44

Such a shame for Becca really thought she was such a nice character but delighted Ruby in and Francis in the final

Hopefully Tue 15-Oct-13 21:07:42

True re the flavour thing, I guess even if they try to put it into words only they know the subtleties. But Ruby's cake did look terrible.

"young girl" she's an adult woman.

coffeeinbed Tue 15-Oct-13 21:12:22

Her Charlotte was a bit of a wreck as well.
Canapes were so so.

Hopefully Tue 15-Oct-13 21:13:07

Loved Frances' canapés.

Pooka Tue 15-Oct-13 21:14:07

Ah - see what you mean hopefully

To be fair, they loathed her technical one and were relatively critical. Not so critical of her as of Beca, but maybe Beca's cakes have tasted bad? Tricky to judge until they invent taste-o-vision (oh happy day).

Usually Ruby does pretty well in the technical, even though is blind judged.

Shame for Beca as I did like her. I warmed to Kimberley today and her brain was brill.

awaynboilyurheid Tue 15-Oct-13 21:15:04

And it's baking not pooing on a plate

Rosa Tue 15-Oct-13 21:15:21

Well really not fussed now but think Kimberly will win . She seems to have the flavour / look combination. Ruby her presentation is no way matching the other two and Francis Paul and Mary continue to say that her flavours are missing but her canapes were top !!!
Sad to see Beca go as she is a real character ...genuine as well.

at least I don't have to run to the pub naked....every cloud eh smile

gwenniebee Tue 15-Oct-13 21:18:00

Ooh, I've only just found this thread. Love GBBO - interested to read some of your views on here. I am also finding the way Ruby is presented really irritating - I'm sure it is just editing and she's not really like that but I can't see why they would want to portray anyone in such a mopy manner! I do feel that P&M pander to her a bit too in case she is too upset by what they say.

I'd quite like Frances to have a blinder and win next week smile

Echocave Tue 15-Oct-13 21:21:09

Hmm felt sorry for Becca tonight. I guess Ruby's stuff does always taste really nice which should win out over flavour is have thought.
Kimberley deserved star baker. I have completely changed my mind about her and if she can get her flavours right, I hope she wins.
Mind you, Frances had me chuckling tonight. She seems like a real laugh.

NorthAnneEyhtMeyerAbbey Tue 15-Oct-13 21:23:54

Ruby should have gone. Beca was not as good as Frances and Kimberley, but she was ahead of Ruby.

Who would buy a book / watch a tv series where the presenter kept moaning and claiming their recipe was rubbish, and when the finished product looked so badly done?

xuntitledx Tue 15-Oct-13 21:26:07

WTF was Beca's flour face all about?!

Gross - clearly wiping her nose and mouth and not washing her hands...you're coming for other people, where's the basic hygiene?

With that being said though, I'm really surprised that she's gone tonight - I was sure Ruby would have been the one to get the boot.

Everything Ruby touched turned to shit!

firesidechat Tue 15-Oct-13 21:26:09

The banana cake was a really bad idea and I think they made the right decision. I liked Beca and was sad to see her go, but her canapés weren't as good as the others and she was second to last on the technical.

For what it's worth there was absolutely no sign of PH drooling over Ruby. Yes, she's a bit of an Eeyore, but I find her quite entertaining in a weird way.

Bunnygotwhacked Tue 15-Oct-13 21:27:45

It does look staged as to who will win look at last week with Ruby getting star baker for something i could of made. It would of had to have tasted of rainbows for something like that to get star baker in any other series.
Also am i reading too much into mel asking if her she wants a slap that sounded abit more than friendly banter. Imagine being forced to go and talk to/interview the human version of Marvin from hitchhikers
I am angry that beccas gone i liked her from the start oh well Francis to win now

firesidechat Tue 15-Oct-13 21:29:53

Right, that's it! I'm off to start the Ruby Appreciation Society.

Rosa Tue 15-Oct-13 21:41:05

I also add that thought that the presenters were great tonight - had a few LOL and dh raised his eyebrows " laughing at a cooking program " I think was muttered .....I was watching on the ipad with earphones!

bacon Tue 15-Oct-13 21:50:08

Ruby is really irritating. Her mouth doesn't move, her negativity and her wonky head. Not someone that is inspiring and couldn't imagine her publishing a book - her personality doesn't sell I'm afraid.

Sadly, I dont think any of them are outstanding compared to the winners in the previous years. Last year I cant remember - had to google it. I think Ruth Clemons is the only one to have made anything successful from it and she was the runner up. Edd and Jo wash over me.

NorthAnneEyhtMeyerAbbey Tue 15-Oct-13 21:53:35

I can see Frances having a career as the new Jane Asher.

MothershipG Tue 15-Oct-13 21:55:44

Whatever happens Frances will definitely get a book deal out of this! She has such great ideas and her presentation is stunning, can you imagine what she could turn out if she wasn't under pressure?!

Although I'm not Ruby's biggest fan I do think the level of vitriol she seems to attract is uncalled for. She's so young, she's not a tv professional, she's completely at the mercy of the editing process and yet some truly vile comments have been made about her, it's cruel and heartless and must be very hard for her and anyone who knows her to read. sad

Does anyone know if any of them are blogging this year? I really enjoyed the Doctor's one last year, a real behind the scenes, eye-opener that was.

kcumber Tue 15-Oct-13 22:33:12

i wish ruby would crack a smile now and then! i can't decide whether it annoys me or whether i just feel sorry for her.

i hope frances wins but i think she will come second with kimberly first. i think kimberly is better technically but frances is so imaginative and creative.

i had a soft spot for becca and gutted she didn't make the final- it was close between her and ruby.

difficultpickle Tue 15-Oct-13 22:40:45

Here is Ruby's blog

difficultpickle Tue 15-Oct-13 22:44:49

Here's Frances' blog

VikingVagine Tue 15-Oct-13 23:15:03

It's quite interesting that Kimberly doesn't seem to have a blog. Or has a link already been given?

Artificial banana flavour in the showstopper cake was a massive mistake.

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nocarsgo Tue 15-Oct-13 23:39:36

You know what? I have totally warmed to Frances. Her whimsy has been really REALLY annoying but, for once, the canapé theme was a good one and they looked great. I'd be happy to see her win.

If I have one criticism of series four though, it's that I have really struggled to like pretty much all of the contestants (except Glenn, I liked him immediately). No idea why.

Bunnygotwhacked Tue 15-Oct-13 23:43:54

butimhungrynow.com is kimberleys

YukonHo Wed 16-Oct-13 00:32:44

WHY did Francis not get star baker?? I think her signature opera thing (technical term) looked sooooo much better than anyone else's and from the judges comments hers and Kimberley's were equally meh on taste. Her canapés were fab too,

Used to love Kimberly but she comes across as slightly arrogant at times and I'm going off her. I've always liked Ruby, I think she's just young and overly nervous ( and she had all those exam pressures in early days and STILL go this far) but I'm not sure she's got the cool head it takes to win.

Francis is the best, love her creativity, and she comes across as lovely and not too up her own arse too! Am firmly in the Francis gang! (Though Kimberly can cook, oh yes she can! If she were less arrogant I wouldn't mind either her OR Francis as winner)

rootypig Wed 16-Oct-13 02:19:30

I think it's Frances who comes in for unfair judging, and she's dealt with it without any fuss at all. I like her more and more. I found Paul's handshake interesting - it was in recognition of something. That they've been hard on her until now? His smirk when she was describing her canapes I found appallingly rude.

If anyone seems to favour Ruby I think it's Mary, who talks about her so indulgently. And Ruby never flirts with Paul, as people in previous series have - can't remember any of them.

Oh! I have just found out (in my attempt to look up previous contestants but cba) that Kimberly is a psychologist shock and Beca is in the Military Wives choir which confirms her as being as generally annoying as suspected.

I like Ruby. I just looked at her blog (thanks bisjo) and wanted to make everything. A lot of the comments I have read about her have shocked and annoyed me, because they're just another form of misogynist conjecture, Madamcastafiore

PoppyAmex Wed 16-Oct-13 06:26:02

"Right, that's it! I'm off to start the Ruby Appreciation Society."

I think Ruby and PH are ahead of you on that one wink

Gracelo Wed 16-Oct-13 06:44:33

I can't see that PH fancies Ruby, just can't. It's a bit depressing that an attractive woman can't make it far without some people suggesting it's because of some bloke fancying her. Must check the calender to see if it's really 2013.
Glad to see that Ruby's blog is back and her latest recipe is Franzbroetchen which I mentioned in this or the last thread. I'll have to try some of her recipes.
I think no one did an opera cake yesterday to a standard everyone of last year's finalists would have been able to do.

ModernToss Wed 16-Oct-13 07:02:25

Sad Beca's gone, she was the one who looked like the most fun and the most genuine.

Kimberley should win on baking prowess, but I wouldn't be surprised if Frances snuck in to win the final. She is much less annoying than she was. Ruby - oh, please.

PoppyAmex Wed 16-Oct-13 07:23:17

If you're looking at it from a feminist perspective I think it's far more annoying to see a grown woman playing the faux modest, helpless maiden when she clearly knows she's a competent baker.

Echocave Wed 16-Oct-13 07:32:57

I really don't get the Ruby hate. She's obviously massively under confident. I feel sorry for her because life can be quite hard if you are like that. If its 'faux' then she's a bloody good actress never mind baker.
I agree Mary and Paul both seem a bit softer with her than the others but I think that's because they can see she's a bit younger than the others and they want to encourage her.

CambridgeBlue Wed 16-Oct-13 07:35:06

I agree with rootypig - if anyone is favouring Ruby it's Mary. She finds something nice to say about even her worst messes and is always making excuses for her - exams, lack of equipment, being young. Ruby's manner really winds me up but I think them indulging her makes it worse.

Bit meh about the final now. I didn't want Beca to go because I like her but I could see her stuff wasn't sophisticated enough last night. Not that fond of the others though - Kimberley comes across as so smug and false, all lighthearted 'such fun' until someone else gets praised then it's steely glares (or if she is criticised wide eyed astonishment). The way she talks gets on my nerves too - every other word is 'kind of' and describing herself as a 'flavour magpie' made me want to throw something at her. Guess I'll be cheering for Frances but only because the other 2 are so annoying.

Have loved this series in general though (I miss lovely Howard!) and really hope they don't mess with the format too much now it's going to BBC1.

ClaraOswald Wed 16-Oct-13 07:36:39

I don't think she is as helpless as she makes out. I don't trust her as a result. I can't.put my.finger on it totally, but I cannot like her.

I can't be doing with the " she's soooo young" brigade. She's 21 not 12, a grown woman. She's not being asked to give lectures on her life experience, she's baking cakes. To my knowledge you don't need to be over 30 to do that. If my 11yo niece started baking she'd very soon be better than me and I'm 42. Age is irrelevant in this kind of arena.

cocoleBOO Wed 16-Oct-13 08:06:31

Ruby is annoying me by the faux I'm not sure what I'm doing act. Calling the beetroot jelly 'other stuff'' ( can't remember exact quote) as if she hadn't been pracising all week and had the ingredients written down in front of her confused

Gracelo Wed 16-Oct-13 08:46:26

I'm amazed that people seem to think confidence is something you just have. I've seen 20+ year olds throw up in the toilet before giving a presentation of their work to their fellow students. I've also seen plenty of 20 year old who are overly confident for no good reason. It's a personality thing rather than an age thing. And Ruby, as much as I like her baking, has reasons to lack confidence, her presentation mainly. It would be weirder if she were all confident about her bakes, espeacially the ones that look a mess.
I think she is the most naturally talented of the lot, there are so many comments about her flavours and textures being spot on. She just needs to nail presentation and timing. I assume Mary recognizes that and tries to support her.

PoppyAmex Wed 16-Oct-13 08:53:17

Someone in the other thread linked the many faces of Ruby and it's easy to spot the fake "i'm so shocked at the positive feedback" smug face.

IME people with low self esteem/confidence don't pout and act petulant when things don't go their way, but the truth is I don't know the girl so she might be the real deal - it just doesn't look it!

ThePearShapedToad Wed 16-Oct-13 09:27:25

Ooooh could anyone link me the dr's blog from last year? (mentioned up thread)

Tia

ViviPru Wed 16-Oct-13 09:53:57

Oh Frances's blog has just made me come over all emosh. She's utterly lovely

I agree with rootypig too

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nipersvest Wed 16-Oct-13 10:04:19

"I can't see that PH fancies Ruby, just can't. It's a bit depressing that an attractive woman can't make it far without some people suggesting it's because of some bloke fancying her. Must check the calendar to see if it's really 2013"

this has only been suggested as a direct result of the bbc having edited the show to give this impression, ruby has been praised for things other contestants have been criticised on. they're now panicing backtracking in the press for fear of a favourtism outcry if when ruby wins.

kcumber Wed 16-Oct-13 10:05:28

just been on frances' blog and it is lovely, as is she! i really do want her to win.

i wish there were more recipes on her.blog though, would love to try and completely cock up copy some of her creations

ppeatfruit Wed 16-Oct-13 10:14:50

Well did anyone notice the 'spat' between Beca and Frances ? Becca grew horns yesterday and her face when Frances cuddled her when she been 'let go'.!!!

kcumber Wed 16-Oct-13 10:21:26

ppeatfruit no.... what did i miss? i thought becca and frances got on?

deleted my recording can't even go back and look.

yesbutnobut Wed 16-Oct-13 11:34:56

I'm thinking that Frances may sneak ahead next week and grab the title. Last year's winner, John, did just this at the last minute. Frances's creativity is just amazing - hers are always the cakes I want to see and her canapes were fab last night. She does like carrots though doesn't she?

Echocave Wed 16-Oct-13 11:39:12

Frances' blog is brilliant and bonkers. She's so great at drawing etc. I'm v jealous. My 2 year old holds a pencil better than me!

I do miss the comedy of the Dalek and of Howard's hilarious (and a bit dodgy) flavour combinations. Last year we had the brilliantly dry Brendan who seemed a giggle and the winner John who was ok too.

I think Mel and Sue are being hilarious this year too.

NorthAnneEyhtMeyerAbbey Wed 16-Oct-13 11:48:04

Frances would definitely sell more books - people like to look at pictures in recipe books.

birdbrain21 Wed 16-Oct-13 14:05:16

where is frances blog?!

ViviPru Wed 16-Oct-13 14:21:47

Frances's blog

She just seems like a sweet, uncomplicated person who would never give you any grief. The way she puts forth her talent is infinitely more palatable to me that Kimberley or Ruby. I'd LOVE it if she pulled some flavour dynamite out of the bag for the final and blew everyone away but I can't help but think she's destined for bronze.....

PoppyAmex Wed 16-Oct-13 14:31:26

I must say Frances did grow on me; I think she has been a tremendously good sport in taking PH's vitriol - it's noticeable how much he enjoys putting her down, it makes me uncomfortable.

ViviPru Wed 16-Oct-13 14:44:02

yes that's very well observed, PA.

ppeatfruit Wed 16-Oct-13 15:53:22

kucumber Becca said something like "what's it like on planet Frances?" and she replied "I like being a bit mentalist" She's nice not up herself at all; shame she can't quite stop her obsession with the look as opposed to the flavour of her baking she'd win for sure if she could grin.

rootypig Wed 16-Oct-13 16:19:49

oh yes ppeat I spotted that. I have decided I don't like Beca at all, I find her a bit 6th form and fake and she sounds like she has something up her nose. I thought Frances's reaction to that was great too, she managed to defend herself without being snippy.

PumpUpMyVolume Wed 16-Oct-13 16:30:28

I don't get that Many Faces of Ruby blog thing... is is just pictures of her or is there commentary somewhere?

I'm on my phone so perhaps am missing something or, more likely, I'm just not down with the kids and don't get what its trying to do...?

ppeatfruit Wed 16-Oct-13 16:36:21

Vivipru Thanks for Frances's blog; her savoury tarte made me drool it look effin' amazing grin I've got the ingredients here and feel very tempted to make it I LOVE butternut squash grin

VikingVagine Wed 16-Oct-13 18:24:40

I am probably possibly bring dense here, but I couldn't find the recipe for the butternut tarte tatin on Frances' blog.