CBB night 3 and beyond....

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LovesBeingOnHoliday Sat 24-Aug-13 22:12:51

And so it begins....

LovesBeingOnHoliday Sat 24-Aug-13 22:16:20

Will anyone see past tge 'openness' of Charlotte?

Boreoff Sat 24-Aug-13 22:20:06

Charlotte is playing up for the camera isn't she, did you see her punching the cake? She knows what is expected of her!

Lighthousekeeping Sat 24-Aug-13 22:20:55

I can't take to her. I think they've put the wrong three up.

Jellykat Sat 24-Aug-13 22:23:17

Evening ladies, nice to find a new fresh thread.. thank you LBOH smile

LovesBeingOnHoliday Sat 24-Aug-13 22:25:57

No problem, thought it was quiet on tge other one, knew you were out there!

LovesBeingOnHoliday Sat 24-Aug-13 22:26:59

Dh hates her and GS

Lighthousekeeping Sat 24-Aug-13 22:28:47

I don't understand how those three are back in the room spying. What did they tell the others?

LovesBeingOnHoliday Sat 24-Aug-13 22:29:34

I know I wondered too

Sparklysilversequins Sat 24-Aug-13 22:30:15

It's showing what happened BEFORE they went into the house.

LovesBeingOnHoliday Sat 24-Aug-13 22:30:57

N this is after

LovesBeingOnHoliday Sat 24-Aug-13 22:31:17

Isn't it

Ledkr Sat 24-Aug-13 22:31:23

Saturday nights is always boring IMO

Sparklysilversequins Sat 24-Aug-13 22:34:53

You're right. Why did they do that though? So those three will never live in the main house?

Lighthousekeeping Sat 24-Aug-13 22:35:14

It's better than the rest of the crap that's on.

MrsTomHardy Sat 24-Aug-13 22:38:26

I think they chose right in choosing Ron....think he would be boring

Jellykat Sat 24-Aug-13 22:47:56

Ron looks bored and a bit bemused, they did make a good call.

MrsTomHardy Sat 24-Aug-13 22:48:58

What was the mistake Ron made?? Mario just said about it!

Feenie Sat 24-Aug-13 22:50:05

I think he meant his broadcasting mistake - why he was chucked off TV.

Tailz Sat 24-Aug-13 22:52:02

I'll be honest, Big Ron in the diary room in his pants, legs wide open ... little bit too much!

MrsTomHardy Sat 24-Aug-13 22:52:54

Oh....don't know anything about that either grin

Thanks anyway!

Feenie Sat 24-Aug-13 22:54:21

When he was a pundit he made a very racist remark, and hasn't worked since.

Sparklysilversequins Sat 24-Aug-13 22:56:04

Mario has it all sussed doesn't he? He's growing on me and I hated him in TOWIE.

Lighthousekeeping Sat 24-Aug-13 22:56:54

Why has Carole been given a warning for stating a fact?

WithConfidence Sat 24-Aug-13 22:57:05

Formal warning!? FGS she was reporting something that happened, not using it as a word.

Jellykat Sat 24-Aug-13 22:59:52

Sparkly, i never watch TOWIE.. just can't work out if he's good looking or not, he has the right qualifications to be, but it doesn't convince me.. is he a player on TOWIE?

MrsTomHardy Sat 24-Aug-13 23:00:13

A bit over the top giving Carole a warning

Ziggyzoom Sat 24-Aug-13 23:01:12

DH and I have just been discussing it. CBB has just revealed a very literal and ignorant understanding of racism.

Sparklysilversequins Sat 24-Aug-13 23:01:35

He's a complete pig. He was going with this utterly gorgeous girl and cheated on her repeatedly. He's a bit of a blame everyone else for it too. Mind you she cheated on him first but they'd apparently got passed that. It all happens in TOWIE grin.

Feenie Sat 24-Aug-13 23:01:46


Sparklysilversequins Sat 24-Aug-13 23:02:02

Past not passed

MrsTomHardy Sat 24-Aug-13 23:02:17

Quite like Mario too...he's a right knob in TOWIE...but he's coming across well in this.

Love Abz too but he's so quiet and out of the loop so far

Jellykat Sat 24-Aug-13 23:04:57

Ooeee Sparkly, he's not coming across like that here yet, time will tell.. (mind you he did say he fancied Carol last night, or did i imagine that? confused)

Feenie Sat 24-Aug-13 23:05:29

So CBB gave Carol a warning for repeating it - and then repeated it back to her to show her what she had done wrong?

<head explodes>

Jellykat Sat 24-Aug-13 23:06:45

Very well put Feenie!

Ziggyzoom Sat 24-Aug-13 23:08:02

Exactly Feenie - such a simplistic and knee-jerk view of racism.

Feenie Sat 24-Aug-13 23:09:52

Presumably the producers are giving themselves a warning as we speak....confused

Sparklysilversequins Sat 24-Aug-13 23:13:16

I am finding the female presenter on BBBOTPsych, really annoying.

Jellykat Sat 24-Aug-13 23:18:49

Do you mean AJ Sparkly? So far none of us like her, so welcome to the club smile

Sparklysilversequins Sat 24-Aug-13 23:22:01

Her timing is off isn't it? No one laughs at her gags.

Very interested in the behavioural psychologists opinions though, the american one, she seems spot on.

Jellykat Sat 24-Aug-13 23:29:28

Spot on, but botoxed to buggery, her face reminds me of Madonna.

Chipstick10 Sat 24-Aug-13 23:29:58

Aj is useless, very gorgeous though. Bb are ridiculous. Meddling, and manipulating the proceedings. I remember the days when housemates were picked at random now bb dictates who will be immune. And I'm sure bb are giving themselves a big pat on the back for their firm and nonsensical stance on racism.

Sparklysilversequins Sat 24-Aug-13 23:34:05

She can't read the auto cue and Ian just sits beside her with a blank face as she stumbles through it. Mind you I suppose she's quite inexperienced and needs to learn.

onedev Sun 25-Aug-13 00:34:47

I agree with BB actually in giving Carole a warning as the word is abhorrent & I find it extremely offensive to hear (even if she were simply repeating what somewhat else said). I was disgusted however that BB then repeated it back to her - not sure why they did that??

Didn't see BBBOTS tonight but agree that AJ is a rubbish presenter!

mrsjay Sun 25-Aug-13 09:46:27

I didnt see last nights did anything exciting happen is anybody else nominated apart from ROn is it worth watching this afternoon ?

MrsTomHardy Sun 25-Aug-13 09:52:43

Nothing exciting happened mrsjay

mrsjay Sun 25-Aug-13 09:56:39

I wont watch then will watch tonight

12thDoctorsCompanion Sun 25-Aug-13 18:06:17

Barbie girl. her boobs just look sore! they MUSt hurt her. she comes across as quite friendly though when shes not squealing.

Loius grin just doesnt care soes he, so nosey. but in such a sweet way grin. Asking Lauren about the sex change and her deep vagina?!

Chipstick10 Sun 25-Aug-13 18:14:50

I don't think it's sweet. I think it's vile. He thinks he's fascinating and funny because he's gay. He is neither. I find him quite cruel and I think we will see him unravel into the person I think he is behind the jazz hands.

Sparklysilversequins Sun 25-Aug-13 18:17:34

I think he's already started, there was some footage of him in the diary room and he's already coming across as a right little whiner.

Chipstick10 Sun 25-Aug-13 18:25:31

Yuk, the footage of him in the diary room of him announcing to bb how he wipes his arse was gross and revolting.

12thDoctorsCompanion Sun 25-Aug-13 19:25:48

I meant sickly sweet in that piers Morgan way of interrogating! He does it in such a way that the person on the receiving end doesnt realise the intimacy of the question IYKWIM. and gernerally gets the answer out of them.

comes across as genuinly caring type thing. theres a Ferengi (Star trek!) proverb ''the bigger the smile, the sharper the knife''!

oldsilver Sun 25-Aug-13 20:59:53

A-ha, this is where you are all too smile

I do like a good ole Ferrengi proverb.

Feenie Sun 25-Aug-13 21:27:47

Agree with chiostick - and I liked him in Pineapple. He is coming across as aggressive and intriusive and the moment. You don't ask a lady how deep her vagina is.

Feenie Sun 25-Aug-13 21:28:42

Chipstick, sorry

Sparklysilversequins Sun 25-Aug-13 21:29:20

Oooh the rows have started and quelle surprise it looks like SA is one of the players!

Jellykat Sun 25-Aug-13 21:41:01

Ron is such a dick!

Feenie Sun 25-Aug-13 21:43:33

Omg, I can't believe he said that.

oldsilver Sun 25-Aug-13 21:59:43

Was that Sophie trying to coach Abs...

Jellykat Sun 25-Aug-13 22:26:27

She really doesn't know when to shut the fuck up eh? Same old, same old..

MrsTomHardy Sun 25-Aug-13 22:44:08

Sophie is awful

ShakeAndVac Sun 25-Aug-13 23:39:44

Oh, you're all in HERE! Wondered why it was so quiet on the other thread and thought I was the only one watching!

ShakeAndVac Sun 25-Aug-13 23:43:48

Thoughts so far:
Sophie's coming across as a know it all loudmouth
Do not like Louis AT ALL, he's really irritating and thinks he's hilarious

onedev Mon 26-Aug-13 00:03:38

Watching delayed as usual! Can't believe Ron said that - the man is shocking & he doesn't even realise that he's saying anything wrong. Unbelievable.

Sparklysilversequins Mon 26-Aug-13 00:06:51

Can you imagine being Sophie's DP and having to listen to her ranting on constantly? No wonder her ex left her to have a night in the cells, probably needed the break!

onedev Mon 26-Aug-13 00:10:06

Haha Silver!

onedev Mon 26-Aug-13 00:10:43

Sorry, meant to say Sparkly!

onedev Mon 26-Aug-13 00:12:47

I'm getting old - how can that girl be proud of being famous for giving blow jobs on TV??

mrsjay Mon 26-Aug-13 09:03:41

I agree with chipstick louis is coming across as really nosy and can get away with asking things and feeling up courtneys boobs because he is gay

Laurens outfits are shocking they dont fit her properly and her suspenders were just awful

Sophie is going to start isn't she she is cold behind the eyes and knows exactly what big brother is all about she did seem to care about ABz she wants him to win but she is a broken record, was she drunk last night I thought she didnt drink anymore,

and bloody hell at rons off the cuff comment about the headscarf he said it so casually,

mrsjay Mon 26-Aug-13 09:06:57

I'm getting old - how can that girl be proud of being famous for giving blow jobs on TV?

because that is just who she is and we need to accept that as the norm shock I dont watch geordie shore i did once it was disgusting I dont what she does on tv is showing a girl who can do what she likes and it is all good and it is such a laugh , I think it is showing young people as having no respect for themselves

noddyholder Mon 26-Aug-13 09:08:41

SA is the most disturbed of all of them. Wait and see. I know people who know her. She should not be in there and def shouldn't be drinking. SHe is an absolute car crash waiting to happen. I haven't watched these shows in years and I don't think I have ever seen such potential for disaster. I like the american girl and abz the rest of them are shock Lauren is funny but I feel 'wrong' laughing at her

mrsjay Mon 26-Aug-13 09:15:27

yes S A has problems you can see that she may not have been drunk she was slurring though when she was talking to Abz maybe she is on medication

AnneEyhtMeyer Mon 26-Aug-13 18:48:55

Had a weekend away and see my lovely thread went tits up.

Have just watched Saturday's, will try to watch Sunday's tonight.

Charlotte is awful. I don't think they should be promoting characters like her. I am old.

Jellykat Mon 26-Aug-13 21:31:01

Even though its all kicking off on Big Bro, this thread is eerily quiet tonight!

Fruitnut Mon 26-Aug-13 21:44:46

Ohh SA is so annoying. The way she speaks to people is so patronising. I really don't like Lauren, I think she's sly.

Has Carol been pissed since she arrived? I do like her, she will put SA right in her place I think.

oldsilver Mon 26-Aug-13 21:46:20

Hello smile

I'm going to have to watch on +1 DP is falling asleep watching Horizon where they have managed to find dinosaur blood and are trying to form DNA ... did they not watch Jurassic Park shock have they not learned anything? shock <<sounds the klaxon for Jeff Goldblume/Sam Neill>>

ExactlyWhat Mon 26-Aug-13 21:46:36

I'm here.. Predicting that Sophie is going to have some kind of meltdown.
Don't think she will cope very well with everyone looking quite anti her at the moment.
Didn't realise Abz has aspergers...did anyone?

Jellykat Mon 26-Aug-13 22:02:01

No, i didn't know that about Abz either, he's had a rough time really hasn't he?..
Carols irritating me almost as much as Sophie now!

oldsilver yeah but if Jeff Goldbloom was to appear if i grew some dinosaurs, i'd have a bloody good go too!.. hubba hubba

oldsilver Mon 26-Aug-13 22:27:06

grin I hear you jelly <<gets out chemistry set>>

Sparklysilversequins Mon 26-Aug-13 22:28:15

No I didn't know that but now a lot about him makes sense. I have a ds AND a dd with High Functioning Autism so Abz is my champion now. Really want him to succeed smile.

Sparklysilversequins Mon 26-Aug-13 22:34:01

grin Lauren's trying to get rid of all the other middle aged women isn't she? She's so transparent.

AnneEyhtMeyer Mon 26-Aug-13 23:18:53

Watching Sunday's. Didn't take Ron long to show his true colours.

Glad Danielle is up.

Flibbedyjibbet Mon 26-Aug-13 23:29:24

Please fill in some (2) gaps for me....

who is the G mentioned earlier am having a mental block?

What was Rons off the cuff remark about a headscarf?

Am a bit confused about Sophie drinking. When people are rehabilitated for an addiction like coke they are generally told to avoid other substances like alcohol as the addiction can be easily transferable.

I'm so happy that there are others in here that will avidly watch it like me.

AnneEyhtMeyer Mon 26-Aug-13 23:35:08

Daniell had a jumper or something over her head like a head scarf. Ron said he hoped she didn't have a bomb.

Flibbedyjibbet Tue 27-Aug-13 08:29:56

Oh my god, what an idiot. Really doesn't help in his plight to reverse public opinion on his previous bigoted comment.

mrsjay Tue 27-Aug-13 08:48:12

When people are rehabilitated for an addiction like coke they are generally told to avoid other substances like alcohol as the addiction can be easily transferable.

she may not have been drinking but she was slurring ( i nearly typed slutting blush ) her words,

when is it repeated I watched The dark knight rises probably should have been watching horizon sounds exciting

Chipstick10 Tue 27-Aug-13 09:13:36

Lauren is indeed transparent, and so deluded its a worry, I'm sure viewers who like her think she is in on the joke, she's not.
Louis is a cutting, bitter little bitch
Sophie is in a Buble of Sophie love
Vicks is a bit of a Lovie
I quite like Ron and feel a bit sorry for him.
Abs is dull. Where in the West Indies does he come from? The accent is ridiculous
Charlotte wouldn't even appeal to me if I was young
Courtney seems ok if a little bit much
As an avid viewer of towie I can't get on board with the mario love
Bruce is boring and on the edge
Danielle. Meh
Dustin is trying to make an impression and may do when the house empties a bit
Carol and drink not a great combo.
So far it's not a great series. Bb interfering too much and giving power to certain housemates is unfair
Too much power being taken away from the viewers.

mrsjay Tue 27-Aug-13 09:20:13

Lauren has spent her life being deluded about things her antiques thingw as a fake her parents coached him , his parents are a bit shady so of course lauren is going to be deluded I feel sorry for her but I dont think she is a very nice person ,

Feenie Tue 27-Aug-13 10:06:49

That would be her, not him/his, mrs jay. I don't remember anyone getting confused when referring to Nadia as female.

I do agree re her delusion though - her parents have most certainly manipulated her all the way - to the extent that the only therapist Lauren saw to counsel her through her sex change was her mother, who awarded herself the qualification. hmm

mrsjay Tue 27-Aug-13 10:11:25

I meant when she was a little boy doing her antiques thing he was called james and his parents coached HIM why are you so bloody picky feenie it is infurating I said her then him jeez

Feenie Tue 27-Aug-13 10:17:15

I'm picky because I don't want MN to be part of any transgender discrimination - we are better than that, no? - and because there seems to be an awful lot of it directed towards Lauren, where there absolutely wasn't towards Nadia - I wonder why that is?

I recognise that you thought it was appropriate to use 'he' historically - it isn't, by the way - she had her sex change in 2001. Then you said 'his' parents were a bit shady - that's not historical. I am sure you wouldn't want to be offensive to the transgender community either.

mrsjay Tue 27-Aug-13 10:19:49

I wasn't discriminating against her though if you read my post properly and understood what I said you will see i did say she and he at appropriate parts of the posts, when lauren was a boy her parents coached him there is no discrimination intended his parents were shadey for coaching their son, I do understand about trandgender I am not ignorant and lauren talks about herself as a boy

Feenie Tue 27-Aug-13 10:23:28

But most people in the transgender community think of themselves as always being of that gender, and find historical references to themselves as the opposite gender offensive and upsetting.

I realise that you thought that was appropriate and that you didn't mean to offend - I am suggesting that it isn't.

Feenie Tue 27-Aug-13 10:25:42

I didn't see anyone refer to Nadia as he/him - historically or otherwise. Was that because she appeared to be more feminine - or more likeable, perhaps? It's a genuinely interesting point.

buss Tue 27-Aug-13 10:29:24

I missed the bit where abz said he had aspergers!
SA needs to back off from him and stop telling him to change his behaviour...I really hope BB intervenes there.
I've always laughed at his accent but I feel bad now...I wonder if it's linked to his ASD as presumably he has communication difficulties.

mrsjay Tue 27-Aug-13 10:30:44

well this post isn't about nadia if it was I would probably say the same as in past tense not all trans gendered people deny their past gender some are ok about talking about it,

mrsjay Tue 27-Aug-13 10:32:09

nadia wasn't likeable I though she was a horrible nasty woman who threw a wobbly everytime she couldnt get fags

mrsjay Tue 27-Aug-13 10:33:22

Abz grew up in london where they probably all spoke like him it is more than likely where he grew up than putting on an accent,

mrsjay Tue 27-Aug-13 10:35:39

I mean an area of London not all Londoners speak like Abz obviously grin

thornrose Tue 27-Aug-13 10:37:09

I'm looking at Abz in a whole new light now too, Abz to win grin

I hope he can raise some awareness of Aspergers/autism just by being there.

Feenie Tue 27-Aug-13 10:38:59

If you look at pretty much any information regarding how to respect a transgender person (many UK councils publish some - there are children as well as adults who are transgender, remember, all of it would cite not using the incorrect pronoun to describe a person in the past, because of the reason stated - many people have always thought of themselves as a certain gender, Nadia included, so it's pretty obvious.

Of course all transgender people are different. But it isn't a huge leap to understand why referring to a lady as he/him, etc to describe historical situations could be offensive, whether that's intended or not, as in your case.

AnneEyhtMeyer Tue 27-Aug-13 10:39:39

Lauren constantly talks about when she was a boy. I really don't understand all the angst.

For what it's worth I think the difference between Lauren and Nadia is that we all knew Lauren as a boy, whereas we only ever knew Nadia as a woman.

AnneEyhtMeyer Tue 27-Aug-13 10:42:31

I think they should restrict the shopping like they used to, MrsJay. I used to love the arguments over fags and drink on the shopping list. Someone always wanted something like organic hand-reared unicorn milk costing half the budget too. I miss that.

mrsjay Tue 27-Aug-13 10:42:41

well Lauren talks abput herself as a boy all the time I dont think you need to be offended on her behalf feeme I was talking about Lauren and nobody else trans gendered so I think if lauren talks about her past as a boy then we can too,

mrsjay Tue 27-Aug-13 10:43:57

they used to do the budget shopping when it was on ch4 the celeb one it was fun when some nomark celeb couldn't get their unicorn milk grin

Feenie Tue 27-Aug-13 10:45:14

I would say to me that's different because she isn't using the his/him/his pronoun - and that's also her prerogative when talking about herself.

You may be right about that as the difference. I also think that people (not necessarily here) are more unkind because she isn't perceived as fitting in as well - she is more eccentric, and I think that makes people feel better about calling her odd, a freak, etc.

Feenie Tue 27-Aug-13 10:47:04

I was talking about Lauren and nobody else trans gendered so I think if lauren talks about her past as a boy then we can too

I don't think you can necessarily make that assumption - again, that's her prerogative - and I think it's possible that you would offend other people in the transgender community.

Coconutty Tue 27-Aug-13 10:49:26

Sophie is awful and could Carol really have been that drunk?

AnneEyhtMeyer Tue 27-Aug-13 10:50:21

I haven't seen people be unkind (I may have missed it as was away at the weekend but am catching up on the ones I missed) but I have seen people worry about a deeply unstable person being in the house.

I felt the same way about Vanessa Feltz and the "Who is she" girl with the eating disorder whose name escapes me at the minute. I think quite a few of the current crop should not be in there and wouldn't have been if proper psych tests had been carried out.

The BB house is no place for someone who isn't emotionally stable. It is unfair to allow them to put themselves in that position.

AnneEyhtMeyer Tue 27-Aug-13 10:53:11

I don't understand how you can offend a trans-gendered person by talking about the fact that they used to be a boy when they talk about being a boy all the time themselves.

Are you expecting people to pretend they haven't heard her? Pretend they don't remember her on Wogan? What exactly are you hoping for? I'm genuinely interested to hear.

mrsjay Tue 27-Aug-13 10:55:13

if I offended you feenie then i apologise wasn't intentional still think I didnt type anything wrong though, and i dont think a thread about a rubbish telly programme is a place to go into the ins and outs of transgender, I don't think i was nasty about lauren just stating a fact,

mrsjay Tue 27-Aug-13 10:56:02

Nicky graham anne

Fairenuff Tue 27-Aug-13 11:00:00

Lauren getting the hairbrush stuck in Danielle's hair, farting in the garden and getting her earring caught on the cushion.

And she doesn't even react, just looks slightly confused. So funny.

Feenie Tue 27-Aug-13 11:02:17

I am hoping for MN to remain a place where we do not show disrespect to anyone, transgendered or otherwise. I am hoping for a little understanding as to why using he/she inappropriately might not be the correct way to refer to a transgender person, and may indeed be hurtful.

It must be extremely difficult for Lauren to manage since, as you say, we all remember her on Wogan all those years ago (see what I did there?) But it's still possible to use the correct pronoun and terminology.

Lauren talks about her childhood freely, and is a fantastic spokesperson for transgender people. And if she wants to talk about her past, that's fine - lots of transgender people do, and it would be difficult for her to avoid it. But in referring to her, historically or otherwise, it's correct to say she, her, etc.

When she talks about her past, she isn't inviting people to use an incorrect pronoun - she would still say 'me' or 'I'. It doesn't give anyone carte blanche to refer to her as the wrong gender, whether historical or otherwise.

mrsjay Tue 27-Aug-13 11:05:44

well I find mn quite a tolerant place to be there is understanding and empthay all over this site and most people do not intentionally set out to hurt people however we are all human and our perception of things is different and we sometimes use in your view the wrong phrases or words we can't al be offended all the time about something

Feenie Tue 27-Aug-13 11:07:13

i dont think a thread about a rubbish telly programme is a place to go into the ins and outs of transgender, I don't think i was nasty about lauren just stating a fact

I think it's the perfect opportunity to talk about it - we have a transgender person in the public eye, it's the ideal time to talk about the prejudice and intolerance that many transgender people feel. Do you know how high the suicide rate is in the transgender community? If Lauren appearing on national television raises awareness, that can only be a good thing.

I don't think you were nasty either - but in stating that fact, you could be hurtful towards someone. I have stated many times that I can see it was obviously unintentional.

Again - just because someone talks freely about their past, it doesn't mean everyone suddenly has carte blanche to mix up their pronouns without causing offence.

Feenie Tue 27-Aug-13 11:09:28

well I find mn quite a tolerant place to be there is understanding and empthay all over this site and most people do not intentionally set out to hurt people

Me too - and most posters are accepting when it is pointed out that something they said could be offensive. It's a pretty obvious one when you think about it - the struggle to arrive at a chosen gender is a long one, and referring to someone as the correct gender is an easy thing to do. It doesn't hurt you.

mrsjay Tue 27-Aug-13 11:09:53

feenie i do think you are going to run with this and keep picking away I am not not going to talk about it Big brother is entertainment that is why we are on this thread feel free to start a thread about trasngender and have a serious discussion on there about it, I am not going to respond to you anymore about this, not because i have anything to hide but I just want to chat waffle about celebs on telly ,

Sparklysilversequins Tue 27-Aug-13 11:11:56

Can you imagine if Danielle had had to cut her fringe off? shockgrin

It was looking that way for a few minutes there wasn't it? I bet Danielle will nominate her just for that!

Feenie Tue 27-Aug-13 11:13:28

Even waffle can potentially be hurtful though, whether intentional or otherwise.

Feenie Tue 27-Aug-13 11:18:00

I felt the same way about Vanessa Feltz and the "Who is she" girl with the eating disorder whose name escapes me at the minute. I think quite a few of the current crop should not be in there and wouldn't have been if proper psych tests had been carried out.

The BB house is no place for someone who isn't emotionally stable. It is unfair to allow them to put themselves in that position.

I couldn't agree more, AnneEyhtMeyer - some of the contestants clearly shouldn't be there. Channel 5 have a lot to answer for. I really hope they all come out of it okay - I suspect though that this could do a fair amount to damage. sad

Feenie Tue 27-Aug-13 11:18:21


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Feenie Tue 27-Aug-13 11:38:49

I'm not transgender, no.

I don't like that transgender people are seen as one of the last prejudices that it's okay to participate in.

I'm disappointed in the reactions to my point from some MNers. I've made two points - one, that there was unkindness on a thread about Lauren which was unnecessary. I gave specific examples. The back lash I got for suggesting that was unbelievable. Two - that it isn't the correct etiquette to refer to a transgender person historically using the incorrect pronoun. I explained why the reasons why this could be offensive. Again, the disbelief and reactions to this are very strange, coming from MN. Perhaps it is just the CBB posters?

The information for this comes from a policy my LEA put into place when we first had transgender children in our authority, to protect them from bullying. But it's quite standard in all material relating to transgender etiquette - and perfectly understandable, actually, when the reasons are explained.

MN is a self-monitoring site - members are encouraged to challenge politely anything they think isn't right, or can report them to MNHQ.

Feenie Tue 27-Aug-13 11:41:32

All you seem to do is correct people and pick at people

I suggest you adjust your search terms in the search facility perhaps? I help a lot of people on Primary Education. I also enjoy chatting about CBB - but am not afraid of challenging posts which I find to be beyond the pale, such as your SA one, which was absolutely vile, SirRaymond, or which could be hurtful.

Sparklysilversequins Tue 27-Aug-13 11:45:17

"The backlash I got for suggesting that was unbelievable".

Care to expand on that? most of the posts still stand on that thread, so people can see for themselves. You are exaggerating and being emotive again Feenie.

Feenie Tue 27-Aug-13 11:46:47

Not really. As you say, the posts are there and anyone can read them and make up their own minds. Most of them. I made my point very clear on that thread.

SirRaymondClench Tue 27-Aug-13 11:46:55

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SirRaymondClench Tue 27-Aug-13 11:48:55

Can I just add that whilst your great works helping people with Primary Education is laudable Feenie we are all adults and not in Primary Education ourselves, so we don't need policing. Not by you anyway.

mrsjay Tue 27-Aug-13 11:49:32

MN is a self-monitoring site - members are encouraged to challenge politely anything they think isn't right, or can report them to MNHQ.

I replied nothing but politely to you and I was civil you seem to just want to pick at people that is ok if you feel you need to support people that you feel treated unfairly , but we also have the right to report you if we wish not that i will and we also have the right to ignore you which i will be doing,

Feenie Tue 27-Aug-13 11:54:47

If you think I have broken MN Talk guidelines, feel free to report.

I'm sorry that after my very careful explanations you still think I am picking, mrsjay. I think what you see as picking I would see as not agreeing with you and answering your points.

You seem to have very high expectations if you're disappointed with other users for referring to Lauren as he. It is an undeniable fact that Lauren was a he. Even Lauren wouldn't deny that. It isn't some unspoken thing she should be ashamed of.

I didn't say she would deny it. Again, I explained very carefully what my point was - her acknowledgement of her childhood in no way gives you carte blanche to refer to her as he. It's standard etiquette, not high expectations at all.

Kaluki Tue 27-Aug-13 11:56:53

Feenie - Are you the self appointed MN political correctness police? Please wind your neck in. You ruined the last thread with your nitpicking and reporting. Fair enough if you disagree with an opinion then say so but why do you have to go on and on and derail the whole thread.

Feenie Tue 27-Aug-13 11:57:05

I think you need to chill on these expectations you seem to have on how we should all behave on MN. Most of us come on here for a laugh and to interact with other users in a fun manner.

Really? Have you seen any of MN's campaigns, SirRaymond?

Feenie Tue 27-Aug-13 11:59:26

Fair enough if you disagree with an opinion then say so but why do you have to go on and on and derail the whole thread.

Because people respond to my posts, and I respond to them. It's called a discussion. Presumably you would prefer it if I just didn't respond to posts addressed to me, so that you could have your own discussion the way you want it? Doesn't really work like that on a discussion board.

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zeldapinwheel Tue 27-Aug-13 12:01:40

And there was me thinking this was a thread about CBB.

Fairenuff Tue 27-Aug-13 12:03:36

The whole point of BB (sleb or otherwise) is to judge and judge harshly. The contestants know this. They are set up. They know this too. They know they will be ridiculed, have their personal lives trashed, careers made or broken. They accept all that in exchange for fame. It's an agreed price.

The only ones who should be ashamed of themselves are the public that watch it. All of us included. Because the advertisers are aiming their wares at us and the programme is just a vehicle. If no-one watched it, they would stop making it.

But we all like to take the piss out of people who put themselves in the public eye. We know it's wrong but we enjoy it. It's part of the twisted world of celebrity.

Yes, Lauren is funny looking. Not because she's t-g necessarily but just because she is. People are going to comment on it and also say all sorts of horrible things about all of them. As they do about each other. It's human nature.

Now, "Shall I be the cat?" - cringe if you remember that classic cbb moment blush

Kaluki Tue 27-Aug-13 12:05:12

Anyway ... curiosity (and boredom) got the better of me last night and I watched an episode of Geordie Shore. OMG shockshockshock.
Disgusting - their parents must all be so ashamed of them!!!
I think Carole is an emotionally unstable alcoholic, how pissed was she last night?
I have never liked Louis but he is growing on me - he makes me laugh.
Danielle - who?? Who cares!!!
Les and Janice (can't remember their real names) - meh!!
Ron - stupid stupid man, going on there to show what a nice bloke he really is but is just reinforcing the fact that he is an ignorant racist.
The rest of them are all fame hungry idiots but I still can't stop watching them!!!

zeldapinwheel Tue 27-Aug-13 12:17:18

My favorite quote so far has been SA " me and the other supermodels....."

Errr no.

The only person who would consider SA a supermodel is SA

Sparklysilversequins Tue 27-Aug-13 12:20:39

grin I said that as well.

I don't see Cindy Crawford and Kate Moss appearing on CBB do you?

noddyholder Tue 27-Aug-13 12:20:55

Agree I bet 'Kate' spat out her tea when she said "kate's lovely' as if she mixes with them Her catwalk karaoke was unwatchable

Fairenuff Tue 27-Aug-13 12:22:42

I'd like Louis to stop acting and be himself. I think he'd be much more interesting that his public persona.

FannyMcNally Tue 27-Aug-13 12:26:07

Carole wouldn't let the conversation drop re SA's lips. I wonder if she's as nasty in RL? Also Les and Janice are just that, do they have their own personalities or are we supposed to think of them as a TV couple? Both Janice and Carole look like the girls I used to be scared of at school! Janice's look when she realised it wasn't the public who had put her up for eviction was a killer.

noddyholder Tue 27-Aug-13 12:29:45

Don't like Janice at all. Seems horrible.

EstelleGetty Tue 27-Aug-13 12:36:54

I bloody love Abz. I loved him on the Big Reunion. He seems a very fragile wee soul, and the AS diagnosis makes sense. I hope he stays in a good while and doesn't get booted for being quiet. His rap poem was well good! I just want to look after him and make sure he gets back to his nice farm in one piece!

I don't think Bruce should be in there. He doesn't seem well. He was almost crying when it was revealed that Lauren said her nightmare housemate would be Les Battersby. And if I were a recovering alcoholic, I wouldn't be able to cope in such a booze-fuelled atmosphere.

I was quite excited about Screech, then I heard about his sex tape, Saved by the Smell. And the book he wrote accusing his fellow SBTB castmates of all sorts!

Lauren's breaking my heart a bit. She just doesn't seem completely 'with it' and that's no wonder, given everything she's been through. Though the hairbrush getting stuck in Danielle's hair was class! I thought that fringe was surely for the chop.

Courtney just seems like a wee girl. Did you see her without her make up on? She looked so young.

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noddyholder Tue 27-Aug-13 12:41:10

Les shouldn't be in there I agree He says he feels he can have a couple in there in a safe environment whereas imo there is no safe environment for an alcoholic sad Same with Sophie. It is a true sign their recovery is not on track if they think its ok to drink while there as if it will be ok.

Wow massive xpost! Apologies for typos in previous post. I just can't get along with this non tangible keyboard!

I agree with everyone re: potential meltdowns.

So many fragile characters in there. Its quite sad really. We know top celebs dont do it and its because they already have the fame, notoriety and money. Where as now the only celebs that go in are (in the main) people who have suffered major set backs in their careers and are skint.

That said, I still watch it. [Blush]

Bloody phone!


buss Tue 27-Aug-13 13:23:16

Re Janice being bitchy about Louis - wonder if she'd mock him if he were in the room?
Carole is a bully. Louis is clearly fed up of her now.
SA is an absolute nightmare. Uses 'sweetheart' at the end of every passive aggressive comment in the same way MNers use the smile face!
I really like Danielle.

mrsjay Tue 27-Aug-13 13:29:10

Now, "Shall I be the cat?" - cringe if you remember that classic cbb moment

Oh lordy i curled up into a ball watching that and everytime it is shown on something i get that kick in the stomach reaction it was all very keep it in the bedroom sorta thing <shudder>

noddyholder Tue 27-Aug-13 13:46:06

You would think by now these 'celebs' would get the idea that its a game and someone has to be chosen etc etc but no they never do Even the ones you think might be able to let it wash over them can't. They are all either on the edge of a breakdown or egomaniacs. They should show this to all the teenagers who want to get into 'showbiz'

SirRaymondClench Tue 27-Aug-13 13:46:42

MrsJay I am still bleaching my eyes since the leotarded robot dancing Pete Burns and George Galloway. confused

AnneEyhtMeyer Tue 27-Aug-13 13:53:00

Nicky Graham! Of course! Thank you mrsjay!

I think Feenie you are confusing people discussing / laughing at / pseudo-psychoanalysing CBB contestants with picking on one particular contestant who just so happens to be trans-gendered. They aren't, they are talking about CBB contestants because that is what you do - if you go on CBB you are putting yourself out there.

I can now see why my last thread went down the pan!

Now, "Shall I be the cat?" - cringe if you remember that classic cbb moment

One of the all-time classic moments in TV history! That was a prime example of why some people should never go on reality TV.

AnneEyhtMeyer Tue 27-Aug-13 13:54:28

Oh SirRaymond I had successfully wiped that image from my brain until just now. I feel I need to scrub myself with bleach in the shower now.

SirRaymondClench Tue 27-Aug-13 13:56:41

Anne I am so sorry...I will pass you the eye-bleach as soon as I've finished with it! There really were some moments of pure car-crash tv on that series (which is why we all watch it) grin

FannyMcNally Tue 27-Aug-13 14:05:30

I really hated that series, watching Barrymore and Peter Burns bully Jodie Marsh was despicable and contestants have been warned for less than what they were allowed to get away with with her. It was like real life Lord of the Flies.

I wonder if George Galloway and Rula Lenska will ever be remember for anything else. They really seemed to forget the cameras were there!

AnneEyhtMeyer Tue 27-Aug-13 14:05:43

Michael Barrymore was in that series too, wasn't he? He's another one who took a real gamble going in.

I remember Les Dennis going in as well and watching him crying in the garden talking to the chickens. Very uncomfortable.

AnneEyhtMeyer Tue 27-Aug-13 14:06:55

Cross posts!

Yes, whatever Rula Lenska has done acting-wise will forever be overshadowed by the cat!

SirRaymondClench Tue 27-Aug-13 14:12:06

I always thought there was extensive testing of mental health to ensure people were fit to participate in what is undoubtably a very high stress environment, prior to entrance into the BB house but that seems to have been abandoned. At least for CBB.
It isn't an environment for someone with alcohol or drug dependancy issues. Mind you the celebs that go on CBB are usually at the arse-end of their careers and usually have severe money problems so the above probably gets bypassed.

AnneEyhtMeyer Tue 27-Aug-13 14:16:09

True. It is a last-ditch attempt to grab some cash and some fame, isn't it?

Just starting to watch last night's. I have no idea why Danielle is surprised that people think she shouldn't be in it as she isn't famous. She isn't famous. Surely this isn't a revelation to her?

Lighthousekeeping Tue 27-Aug-13 14:38:55

I know I've already asked this but, how are those three able to go off and nominate people?

Chipstick10 Tue 27-Aug-13 15:28:03

Sorry but I'm at a loss as to why someone should win just because they have been diagnosed with a condition. Totally confused. I thought Abz was a bit of a cringe before I knew and I still think he's a bit of a cringe. His accent is ludicrous.

AnneEyhtMeyer Tue 27-Aug-13 15:47:43

Abs' accent is awful. I don't care what condition he has, that accent is put on, it is not his genuine accent. No condition on this planet makes you talk in fake Jamaican patois.

corlan Tue 27-Aug-13 15:55:30

Anne - I've known a couple of autistic children who spoke in fake American accents - it's not that unusual. (Might not be the case with Abs though)

Sparklysilversequins Tue 27-Aug-13 16:01:49

I don't that it's he SHOULD win, I just think some would like him too because things are often so much harder for those with spectrum disorders and it would be great for awareness.

Coconutty Tue 27-Aug-13 16:04:48

Abs having Aspegers has nothing to do with how he talks, he comes from a part of London where all the cool kids talk like that! Not patois, just street.

The last school I worked in made me fluent in it.

AnneEyhtMeyer Tue 27-Aug-13 16:47:49

Ok, Corlan, I can see you know more than me about this sort of thing. I didn't know that.

However, I still stand by my thought that Abs' accent is put on to make him look cool. I'm sure he never used to speak like that. To me it makes him look like a fool, because I am old.

AnneEyhtMeyer Tue 27-Aug-13 16:49:20

Didn't Pete who was in the same year as Nicky Graham have Tourettes? Him winning did a lot for awareness about that condition.

KatoPotato Tue 27-Aug-13 16:55:53

The 2004 Keith Alan docu about the Harries family is available to watch on Daily Motion


The 'extras' film is interesting watching too


SirRaymondClench Tue 27-Aug-13 16:57:03

Anne I don't think Pete did anything for raising the profile of tourrettes. He became a total penis when he got out of the house and he treated Nicki Graham appallingly, and she was pretty mentally fragile.

AnneEyhtMeyer Tue 27-Aug-13 17:01:21

I think while he was in the house he did, because he was seen as "normal" and quite endearing. It was only after he came out he showed he was an arse.

Yes, I agree Nicky was pretty fragile - she was the one I mentioned earlier whose name I had forgotten. She should never have been allowed in the house.

mrsjay Tue 27-Aug-13 17:02:46

MrsJay I am still bleaching my eyes since the leotarded robot dancing Pete Burns and George Galloway.

well I had forgotten all about it till you reminded me <shudder>

I remember the documentary about Lauren and her family online doctorites and counsilling your own child confused

SirRaymondClench Tue 27-Aug-13 17:32:01

That Keith Allen doc was pretty chilling. That family are unhinged. What scares me is they set up their own psychotherapy organisation and 'qualified' themselves and 'practiced' on the general public.
I can remember Lauren doing a demonstration of a therapy session with a friend of hers which involved her just shouting at this woman.
The family were very insular and kept getting targeted by local knobheads smashing their windows in.
I did feel very sorry for Lauren because her parents were really fucked up and I don't think she stood a chance.

12thDoctorsCompanion Tue 27-Aug-13 17:43:57

Sophie and Barbie girl looking daggers at each other during the -erm- ''talent'' contest grin.

they really should get dressed now!

Carol and drink. and dirty 'joke' about her partner -hes much younger than her, did you know that- ????-oh purlease.

Chipstick10 Tue 27-Aug-13 17:56:46

I know I sound cold and unfeeling but I'm so over bb winners raising awareness. They never do. Peter was a knob and just last week Sam won. He was a twat. He was boring and IMO didn't deserve to win. Why did he win? Because he had a disability. Also I'm not keen on lauren and I don't particularly feel sorry for her. I refuse to be made to feel guilty for saying what I want and feel because she's had it tough. I find her cringing and annoying and she is so deluded I find her difficult to watch. She's a car crash. Lets face it this year is really scraping the barrel.

Lighthousekeeping Tue 27-Aug-13 18:05:39

I don't think it raises any particular awareness that wasnt there already. Sometimes I think it's easy to look down on the voting public. Loads of people have been voted and won big brother who don't fit into a particular box. I don't think people necessarily put themselves in there because they are different or want to raise awareness of anything in particular. I just think they want the experience of being in the house. If that makes sense.

buss Tue 27-Aug-13 18:05:50

I've just had a quick google and it seems that it's not that rare for people on the spectrum to speak with an unusual accent.

Perhaps Abz's ASD has made him more susceptible to adopting that particular accent.

Chipstick10 Tue 27-Aug-13 18:16:39

Btw I also have difficulty watching the auditions on the xf. Too many deluded folk, makes for very uncomfortable viewing.

SirRaymondClench Tue 27-Aug-13 18:24:09

I have always maintained that BB and CBB would be a lot more exciting if every two weeks they released a hungry wild cat into the house for 10 minutes - on live feed grin

Chipstick10 Tue 27-Aug-13 18:29:07

Nooooo cats remind me of George Galloway slithering around with rula lenska. I had nightmares for weeks.

SirRaymondClench Tue 27-Aug-13 18:41:58

I'm talking a tiger, or a smallish lion or a panther. Something with a lot of teeth! wink Now THAT is a reality tv show I'd like to watch!

Sparklysilversequins Tue 27-Aug-13 18:43:03

How do you know it doesn't raise awareness chipstick? I don't think you sound particularly cold and unfeeling by the way. I understand what you're saying.

The thing is Abz has got a pretty solid fan base, everyone knows who he is, he's a character. I can guarantee that even just a couple of fans would have googled to find out what it meant. Not only that, as silly as it sounds I can't tell you what a comfort it was to me when I found out that Paddy Considine and Dan Ackroyd both have it. Two hugely successful people whose work I have loved over the years. It's very easy to look on the dark side when you have dc with autism, to see people with it succeeding really helps you to get perspective.

buss Tue 27-Aug-13 18:44:48

I didn't know Dan Ackroyd had ASD!

Sparklysilversequins Tue 27-Aug-13 18:46:45

Oh and I meant to add that although CBB may not be seen by us as a success, its still putting it out there in the mainstream and many of its viewers might feel that actually it is quite a big deal to be there hence the huge numbers of applicants annually hmm.

AnneEyhtMeyer Tue 27-Aug-13 18:55:58

SirRaymond - one of the foreign BBs put a load of tarantulas in the house once. I can't remember which one. I'll have a quick google and see if I can find it. (Without seeing any pictures as that would give me the willies!)

AnneEyhtMeyer Tue 27-Aug-13 19:03:09

Just found it - it was BB Belgium. They put in 99 tarantulas but told the housemates there were 100 and they had to find them all. They found them all but obviously they thought there was still one loose in the house.

If I had been there I would have had to leave.

SirRaymondClench Tue 27-Aug-13 19:18:21

Anne see now that's TV!! grin

Sparkley I didn't know that about Dan Ackroyd or Paddy Considine either. I looooooove Paddy Considine. (is that wrong?)

mrsjay Tue 27-Aug-13 19:51:55

I agree it doesn't raise awareness if people with disabilities go on it shows people can be idiots whatever condition they have but awareness nah I dont agree either I remember there was an ex soldier on channel 4 BB and he had a disability and he was a creep so he didnt raise any sort of disability awareness he was just a creep but he would have been a creep anyway

Lighthousekeeping Tue 27-Aug-13 20:11:46

I agree.

Jellykat Tue 27-Aug-13 22:08:07

That Vicky's a nasty piece of work shock
Funny Louis telling her shes made a twat of herself, fair play Louis!

thornrose Tue 27-Aug-13 22:09:56

As a mum to a dd with Aspergers and constantly having to tell people what it is, awareness to me is as simple as someone googling Aspergers because Abz from five has it!!

thornrose Tue 27-Aug-13 22:12:15

Sorry Sparkly I didn't read your post I wasn't copying grin

Paddy Considine was diagnosed at 33yo old!!

AnneEyhtMeyer Tue 27-Aug-13 22:13:34

Vicky is very bitter, isn't she? I don't understand why, she seems to have had regular acting work since leaving Corrie.

peppapigmustdie Tue 27-Aug-13 22:14:22

sparkilng my dnephew is high functioning and he could be Abz right now.
You are right, it is all a huge spectrum.

thornrose Tue 27-Aug-13 22:15:42

"Awareness nah I don't agree" mrsjay, do you really believe a programme watched by so many people will not raise awareness of a condition like Aspergers?

My dd was over the moon to see someone on tv with Aspergers.

Jellykat Tue 27-Aug-13 22:20:24

Maybe shes peri meno Anne

disclaimer: i'm not being ageist, because i'm the same age and know i can be a right cow at times too grin

Chipstick10 Tue 27-Aug-13 22:23:26

Why the fuck is bb giving louis so much power? He's a nasty little bitch. Omg Sophie's face was a picture when Charlotte was voted number one hottie.

Chipstick10 Tue 27-Aug-13 22:24:12

Charlotte is going to win isn't she?

Chipstick10 Tue 27-Aug-13 22:24:53

We know what age group is voting.

thornrose Tue 27-Aug-13 22:29:25

Chipstick Sorry but I'm at a loss as to why someone should win just because they have been diagnosed with a condition.

It's because you know the struggle that person has just to get through each day, like my dd. They deserve something positive and good to happen to them as they probably have the lowest self esteem imaginable, that's a start!

AnneEyhtMeyer Tue 27-Aug-13 22:33:37

I hope Charlotte, doesn't win, Chipstick. But after Sam won the main show I don't have any faith in the voting public.

Maybe, Jellycat. I think I'm there too.

Sparklysilversequins Tue 27-Aug-13 22:35:42

Exactly thornrose smile. A google is blooming GREAT. Didn't want to get into a deep discussion about it on here, but I know there are teenagers out there who may struggling with Aspergers who will be feeling just very slightly happier because someone mainstream and successful has it. Even if just one of their peers says "oh you've got what Abz has got haven't you?" And then has a convo about it that will be a great thing.

Ignorance towards spectrum disorders is often so prevalent that I don't many people can understand just how warm and fuzzy you feel when you hear someone in the public eye say they have it. You should have seen me when Daniel Radcliffe said he had Dyspraxia, I was happy for days! grin (Ds has that too) and loves Harry Potter. To be able to tell your child and people who know him and don't really understand his conditions that someone like that has one of these conditions and look how well he's doing feels pretty good I can tell you.

Jellykat Tue 27-Aug-13 22:36:31

Good fun eh Anne?

I agree re. Sam, most be the first time i thought the end result was a mahoosive pile of crap!

AnneEyhtMeyer Tue 27-Aug-13 22:39:56

Oh yes, a right bundle of laughs, Jellycat wink

Why is Carol telling Charlotte how to go out for an evening without getting drunk. Has she forgotten last night?

thornrose Tue 27-Aug-13 22:40:23

Sparkly, last night I actually jumped off the sofa when Abz said he had AS, I ran into dd's room (she's 14) she did this hmm I texted my cousin who's son has AS. I can't explain how happy it made us.

I'm sorry, I know this thread is not the place and I apologise and I promise I'll stop now blush

oldsilver Tue 27-Aug-13 22:44:01

grin at the peri talk - I'm still right in the middle of it all.

Evening by the way.

I am struggling to comment at the moment - Louie is great/bitch/team member/selfish - delete as applicable.

Ewww at Ron's feet - or the thought of anyone dealing with them.

Sparklysilversequins Tue 27-Aug-13 22:45:22

grin Me too! Messaged ex, ds's Dad and a couple of friends and was still thinking about it today.

Chipstick10 Tue 27-Aug-13 22:46:06

Omg louis fuck off, I actually can't stand him.

Jellykat Tue 27-Aug-13 22:52:42

Evening oldsilver smile
Didn't realize you were in our club too, i just wish i could get some buggering sleep..

Nope, i still like Louis..

Mario is a sleazeball!

AnneEyhtMeyer Tue 27-Aug-13 22:59:41

I like Louie. Better than the others, which isn't saying much, I know.

Danielle needs to go out this time, as she is not a celebrity. Also, I think Ron will walk / be ejected soon anyway. Vicky could cause some ructions, so I'm happy to keep her in for the time being.

Just checked Oddschecker - Danielle is favourite to go, and Louie and Charlotte are tying for winner at the moment.

AnneEyhtMeyer Tue 27-Aug-13 23:05:27

Oh God, half-heartedly watching CBBBOTS and thought Nadia was looking very good, then realised it was Nadia Sawalha, not Nadia from BB! blush Must have been because of all the talk on here earlier about her!

Coconutty Tue 27-Aug-13 23:12:31

I like Louis but am going off Vicky. Think that Charlotte made a total twat of herself by pretending to be drunk though.

oldsilver Tue 27-Aug-13 23:18:05

jelly I was on the resurrected thread - think it's one of the very few that have been rescued out of chat 30 day dustbin cause of the info we garnered - hijack over now grin

O...............M....................G................. I hope they made her clean it up and wash the bedding herself.

Chipstick10 Tue 27-Aug-13 23:31:11

Dirty little cow. Omg how is she fav to win? And louis. What is wrong with bb voters? Somehow though I don't think louis will win. I will state now I think it will be lauren or abz. And at a push Charlotte.

thornrose Tue 27-Aug-13 23:41:29

Mark Lever, chief executive of The National Autistic Society, has since praised Love (aka Abz) for raising awareness of the syndrome.

Sparklysilversequins Tue 27-Aug-13 23:44:56

I like Charlotte. She seems thoroughly genuine. She's not gossiping about anyone or being a bitch. Whatever she does on her show I think she seems like a nice girl. I hope she is in the top 3.

Louis is I think painfully, brutally honest and I quite like him too.

The only ones I don't like are the whiners, Danielle and Vicky. Don't they realise that the more they throw themselves around sulking all over the place, the more likely the public are to vote them out?

Sparklysilversequins Tue 27-Aug-13 23:47:12

That's good to hear Thornrose smile. Abz to win but I don't know if he will as he's so quiet and unpushy.

AnneEyhtMeyer Wed 28-Aug-13 07:03:12

Unless Abs starts to actually be entertaining then it would be a travesty if he won. I don't understand why anyone would want someone who sits there doing not much to win. However Sam won, so clearly some people do want a boring winner.

Chipstick10 Wed 28-Aug-13 08:12:09

That's my point, Sam just cruised to the final, he slept most of the day and he won.!!!!

mrsjay Wed 28-Aug-13 08:44:12

och I like Louis he was great with Dannielle who was freaking out about being nominated he was whatever darling bet he wanted to say we have no clue who you are grin I think he would be more annoying if he was all jazz hands all day , I loved the who is hottest challenge it was funny, charlotte drunk after a couple of ciders hmm and Vicky is coming across as nasty and bitter I liked her at first I think in all honestly she is just there to support Bruce iyswim, Sophie Meh just shush ,

AnneEyhtMeyer Wed 28-Aug-13 08:46:08

I want Louie to win. He is the only one with anything about him in there.

I loved his "You're a niche interest" line to Lauren in the "Who is hottest" challenge. Very smoothly done!

mrsjay Wed 28-Aug-13 08:52:05

yes I did like that with lauren it was very subtle ,

Im not into mario I dont watch towie but does all that you are beautiful flattery work for him because sophie was lapping it up grin

AnneEyhtMeyer Wed 28-Aug-13 09:04:25

Mario was awful when he was doing that sleazy "you're beautiful" routine. Sophie showed how foolish she was believing it.

mrsjay Wed 28-Aug-13 09:08:05

I was eeewwing at him sophie knows she is too old for him but god it fed her ego

Coconutty Wed 28-Aug-13 09:15:37

Was laughing at Sophie's straight face when she was saying to Mario, "You're 25 and I'm 36."

She's 43!!

mrsjay Wed 28-Aug-13 09:19:56

didnt we clear this up a few pages back or on the other thread people were at her school and she is 36 isn't she ? she was in a model house with emma willis when theyw ere 17 Emma is in her 30s

Feenie Wed 28-Aug-13 09:21:40

She's 43!!

No, she isn't apparently. This was all thrashed out on a thread here - lots of Wikipedia nonsense and in the end a genealogist found her birth certificate.

Fairenuff Wed 28-Aug-13 09:50:47

Danielle is annoying, going on and on about why she was chosen. I wish someone would ask her what she would have done then, having gone straight into the secret room, not met anyone, not a had chance to get to know anyone and then having to nominate.

She would have done exactly the same. Why can't she see that?

Although it does annoy me that BB chose those three to start with, giving them immunity in the first week. Are they that desperate to keep them in, or is it part of their agreed contract. No-one wants to be first out so it at least guarantees them that.

Carole seems quite switched on, she notices a lot.

AnneEyhtMeyer Wed 28-Aug-13 09:53:44

She has had a lot of work done, which has made her look older than her years. This always happens.

I am loving this [ashamed face]

If anyone hasn't seen the Extras film with Ricky G I really recommend it. The bit where he's in the celeb BB house is hilarious and spot on. (Lionel Blair's constant dancing reminds me of Louis Spence...).

I like Carole but she surely has an alcohol problem? Hiding the booze for herself and getting plastered like that. Has she ever come out to say she has?

Although I love the show, I do think things are going to unravel in a big way this year... <puts programme on series record?>

Fairenuff Wed 28-Aug-13 10:49:29

Does anyone know why Louis sleeps on the floor btw?

Sparklysilversequins Wed 28-Aug-13 10:50:31

Maybe people actually like the kind, gentle "boring" ones and that's why they win or people would like them to win?

AnneEyhtMeyer Wed 28-Aug-13 10:55:17

Not exactly entertainment, is it? If you had a house full of them no one would watch.

Sparklysilversequins Wed 28-Aug-13 10:56:53

Maybe they like to watch the colourful characters but ultimately choose the ones they'd like to be mates with to win.

AnneEyhtMeyer Wed 28-Aug-13 11:09:05

God, I wouldn't want to be mates with the likes of Sam.

Chipstick10 Wed 28-Aug-13 15:59:55

Oh god me either. I remember when Rachel rice won bb9, omg she was like something out of an Enid blyton book, skipping around talking to bees.
Dex should've won last week. He wasn't nasty or mean, but he was entertaining unlike Sam who won the sympathy vote, yawn. Same thing may happen this year with lauren or abz. Mind you not much to choose from any of them, would be nice if someone won who wasn't on a "journey" though.

mrsjay Wed 28-Aug-13 17:22:29

remember that cameron bloke was he a farmer or a fisherman he was so nice he was invisible that was the worst BB ever and they went to Africa as a twist

mrsjay Wed 28-Aug-13 17:23:10

what was this years winner of BB disability I havn't watched since it went to ch5

AnneEyhtMeyer Wed 28-Aug-13 17:29:43

Sam is deaf, mrsjay.

God, yes, Cameron Stout, the most boring man in Britain. He was from Orkney or Shetland and had lived a very sheltered life. He only won because he was up early and went to the diary room and then ended up on a plane to Africa.

mrsjay Wed 28-Aug-13 17:34:13

Oh is he,

his brother cameron i mean is a Tv personality in Scotland does radio and pantomime cameron bit of rubbish trivia that grin

thornrose Wed 28-Aug-13 17:42:50

Oh yea because being deaf or having Aspergers is a fucking journey!

I find it so offensive that you call it a sympathy vote.

AnneEyhtMeyer Wed 28-Aug-13 20:16:04

Oh! I didn't realise tonight was a live eviction! I thought that was tomorrow. I hope Danielle goes back to obscurity.

AnneEyhtMeyer Wed 28-Aug-13 21:24:00

Quiet here tonight. Thought it would be busier with the eviction.

Charlotte definitely did the bed-wetting for attention.

AnneEyhtMeyer Wed 28-Aug-13 21:27:38

How sad Lauren saying she has no friends. I like that she feels she has Courtney as a friend in the house.

RedPencils Wed 28-Aug-13 21:32:17

I'm here, but a bit late because I've been catching up with the yesterday's.
Cant believe how gross Charlotte is.

Hope Danielle goes. She's annoying.

BaltiPie Wed 28-Aug-13 21:32:50

I really liked the friendship developing between Courtney and Lauren, but now I have this horrible suspicion Courtney is just making an alliance to strengthen her position in the house hmm

dammit I hate being cynical! I do hope she is for real.

Lighthousekeeping Wed 28-Aug-13 21:34:01

I really like Courtney. I just wished she'd get rid of her sore looking boobs.

AnneEyhtMeyer Wed 28-Aug-13 21:35:19

Evening Red!

The right one went.

Vicky looked a bit crestfallen when she heard the "Get Vicky out!" chants.

AnneEyhtMeyer Wed 28-Aug-13 21:37:54

Oh yes, the boobs just look like she has a sack of spuds stuffed up her top. She really doesn't seem comfortable with them.

RedPencils Wed 28-Aug-13 21:39:21

Yay bye Danielle.

RedPencils Wed 28-Aug-13 21:43:39

'More people have been on the moon , than in the BB house'. What????

Why was she giving Louie so much stick? He didn't pick her n

AnneEyhtMeyer Wed 28-Aug-13 21:49:15

I didn't realise it was a vote to save. I much prefer vote to evict.

Fruitnut Wed 28-Aug-13 21:49:26

Glad Danielle went. She's really quite annoying!

Charlotte is shocking, can't believe she pissed the bed. Although last weeks GS she vomited all over the bed and I'm pretty sure she shit in a carrier bag or discarded shitty knickers in a kitchen bin on GS. Pure class that girl.

Jellykat Wed 28-Aug-13 21:55:18

What a surprise that Ron went straight for putting up Lauren initially hmm

AnneEyhtMeyer Wed 28-Aug-13 22:04:14

Agree, Jelly.

Louie won't go. I wonder who he will be up against?

Chipstick10 Wed 28-Aug-13 22:14:27

Why is it a surprise that Ron wanted to put lauren up?

AnneEyhtMeyer Wed 28-Aug-13 22:15:59

It isn't a surprise, Chipstick.

Chipstick10 Wed 28-Aug-13 22:17:59

Ok why isn't it a surprise? I don't get the point.

oldsilver Wed 28-Aug-13 22:18:08

Pah! We were watching Nick Hewer - Who Do You Think You Are ... and forgot live eviction hmm

Just to say, I've learnt something and acted on it from CBB - their conversation about putting egg shells round plants (already do that) led to Abz suggesting that rats don't like mint. Off we went to the Gardening Centre today to purchase some. I'll try any deterrent at the moment - we have a major rat problemo in my little garden.

AnneEyhtMeyer Wed 28-Aug-13 22:31:36

I'm not surprised because Ron isn't exactly renowned for his tolerance of people with alternative lifestyles.

Chipstick10 Wed 28-Aug-13 22:49:16

Isn't he? I didn't know that. When has he expressed this view?

AnneEyhtMeyer Wed 28-Aug-13 23:10:43

I'm not an expert on the life, times and opinions of Ron Atkinson, however he is not renowned for being a forward thinking liberal, is he?

Honestly, I have no idea what is going on with the CBB threads this year.

Chipstick10 Wed 28-Aug-13 23:39:57

We can only make assumptions because let's face it that's what big brothers all about. Maybe he just doesn't like lauren, maybe he thinks she's a threat and he's playing the game. Who knows? I'm glad the little shit louis is up even though he won't go. Shame.

AnneEyhtMeyer Wed 28-Aug-13 23:46:06

Yes, that's what we did. We made an assumption based on our own opinions based on his previous history. You were the one who tried to make it into something it wasn't. hmm

onedev Thu 29-Aug-13 00:18:03

This thread keeps turning serious hmm

I was disappointed Danielle went & would have preferred it to be Ron as there isn't much entertainment from him at all. Danielle seemed like she would have put up a good fight & stood her ground etc.

Really wish it were regular nominations & then the public getting to choose properly.

The funny thing is that when its vote to evict, I get annoyed & then when it's vote to save, I get annoyed!grin

Fairenuff Thu 29-Aug-13 00:22:33

I would have preferred Ron to go. He has barely been seen on the show since the whole headscarf incident. I wonder if he's been very quiet or just edited out. It's so hard to tell.

I don't think Louie really wants to go, I think he's putting on a front about it. I think he'd love to win.

If he doesn't go, he will be unbearably smug to the others. It's worth keeping him in just to watch that grin

onedev Thu 29-Aug-13 00:27:30

I agree Fair - Louie is annoying but very entertaining so I'd like him to stay. Definitely putting on a front as well as he'd be gutted to go 2nd!

Good point about Ron, although they could have simply edited out the headscarf comment & left the rest of what he says in, so I reckon he's just naturally boring!

AnneEyhtMeyer Thu 29-Aug-13 07:14:51

Louie would be gutted to go, I think. I was surprised when he did the whole "pick me" bit. He must have thought they were going to pick him so was trying to get in first.

mrsjay Thu 29-Aug-13 08:48:50

I like to think that courtney isn't devious enough to make alliances with lauren bless her she isn't the sharpest tool she is quite innocent even with her mashoove boobs and big hair, I like her, glad dannielles gone she was a pita although get her spilling the beans about Sophies freebie , bet it was for an endorsement for her company wonder if sophie thought she would blab in the house about sophies treatment grin

Charlotte Urgh she is gross why does she feel the need to do that .

Chipstick10 Thu 29-Aug-13 09:06:22

Abz or lauren will win, I'm prepared to bet my new guerlain bronzer on it.[Big grin]

AnneEyhtMeyer Thu 29-Aug-13 09:24:00

Current betting odds have the most likely winner as Charlotte, followed by Carol, Louie, Lauren and Courtney.

I thought Screech would have done better but he has been dull.

Kaluki Thu 29-Aug-13 09:42:41

I may have missed a bit - how did Danielle meet Sophie years ago and why wouldn't she say much about it on BBBOTS last night.
OMG Lauren's mirror face with the bloodshot eyes shock was scary!!!
I'm warming to Louie a bit and cringing at Lauren and Carole!

Chipstick10 Thu 29-Aug-13 10:21:55

Carole is also making me cringe, and lauren I just have to hide behind a cushion.

mrsjay Thu 29-Aug-13 12:26:23

I think she went to dannelle's cosmetics clinic and got a freebie treatment or 5 that seemed to be what dannelle was hinting at

mrsjay Thu 29-Aug-13 12:28:14

I think screech will just fade into the final we will go what is he doing there we forget he is there remember toadie from neighbours last year a nice guy but so dull he was in the final,

TukTuk Thu 29-Aug-13 15:17:35

I don't like Louie -never have done . He is exactly as I thought he'd be , but I wouldn't want him to leave just yet (but hope he doesn't win)

Danielle made herself look a right bitter cow last night with her little digs at Louie and Sophie and dismissed AJ when she suggested her and Vicky were acting childishly with the whispers and laughing loudly at Louie.

For someone who has been a BOTS guest so often Lauren seems to be missing the point of the programme or rather its ok for her to nominate but seems to think she shouldn't be nominated ........ well she's in for a shock then isn't she ?

Chipstick10 Thu 29-Aug-13 15:38:28

Yes I seem to remember lauren on bbbots now I come to think of it, her and Peter burns were pretty vile about other contestants.

TukTuk Thu 29-Aug-13 15:53:31

Yes that's right they were both frequent panel guests but they also used to pass judgement on the outfits HM's wore when entering the house .

mrsjay Thu 29-Aug-13 15:58:42

I am off out to a thing tonight I will need to record it I want to see lauren being all offended at being nearly nominated, as been said pages ago she is delusional hmm

Jellykat Thu 29-Aug-13 21:21:23

Quite amused at Laurens Antiques roadshow, Charlottes fried eggs socks especially..

Glad Danielle went last night, she was a right cow when interviewed.

AnneEyhtMeyer Thu 29-Aug-13 21:52:55

Surprised Sophie didn't get more nominations.

Lauren's reaction to being nominated just proves she isn't stable enough for BB. I'm worried about her.

Think Ron will be out next. He brings nothing to the show.

Fruitnut Thu 29-Aug-13 21:59:55

Bless Bruce and his reason for nominating Lauren, saying he's worried about her and she should be at home. I agree.

Sophie is irritating the life out of me! See her trying to stop Courtney from comforting Charlotte?! And Carol is annoying...in fact the only ones who aren't annoying are the ones that are quiet like Abz, Dustin, Bruce. Ron is getting all cocky too.

Has MN been playing up tonight or is it just me?

Kaluki Thu 29-Aug-13 22:05:30

How patronising is Sophie? Waving people away while she is fawning over comforting Charlotte!
PMSL at "she's just a Geordie slaaaaag!!!"

Jellykat Thu 29-Aug-13 22:05:48

Its ok, not just you Fruitnut, i had to wander off for a bit shock

I'm not sure about Carol, referring to Charlotte as a slag when she was upset was a bit much!

AnneEyhtMeyer Thu 29-Aug-13 22:17:15

MN has been a nightmare tonight. I've lost several posts when it has gone offline.

"She's just a Geordie Slag" has the potential to become a catchphrase.

Fruitnut Thu 29-Aug-13 22:20:30

I was trying to post for ages! Gave up and made packed lunches for tomorrow, every cloud grin

I'm not sure about Carol either. I'm annoyed Sophie isn't up.

RedPencils Thu 29-Aug-13 22:24:21

Danielle was an utter loon on BBOTs. No self awareness whatsoever.

Charlotte is gross. I hope she doesn't win.

Kaluki Thu 29-Aug-13 22:32:53

Lauren's needy whining and moaning about being nominated is annoying me too!

Chipstick10 Thu 29-Aug-13 22:38:22

Ron go home you absolute melt.
Louis and carol, nasty bitches.
Lauren is too needy and wearing. Also maybe a little bit manipulative
Sophie sweetheart, babe, should also be up for eviction

thornrose Thu 29-Aug-13 22:51:52

Why the hell did Screech let Ron speak to him like that? (Watching on plus 1)

buss Thu 29-Aug-13 23:01:22

Carol was spot on about Ron being cocky now he's not been evicted.

Chipstick10 Thu 29-Aug-13 23:04:45

Did laugh at mario during noms when he said "this isn't a care home"

AnneEyhtMeyer Thu 29-Aug-13 23:08:43

I expect this cockiness will lead to Ron becoming a bit less circumspect about what he says. He will trip himself up again this week.

Sparklysilversequins Thu 29-Aug-13 23:47:10

Carol is a bully, I hate her. Whatever you think of Charlotte, it's absolutely disgusting for a middle aged woman to call a young woman a slag like that. That reduces her to a much lower level than any of the other women in that house imo. And when she was stalking round the kitchen nit picking at Charlotte and Lauren while they were making breakfast? Who the hell does she think she is? I wish SA would bring back crazy and go head to head with her.

Chipstick10 Fri 30-Aug-13 00:14:13

Well according to another forum Sophie and lauren have had a spat tonight egged on by carol.

onedev Fri 30-Aug-13 00:18:51

I think Carol is good in the house & Charlotte is very proud of herself for being famous for shagging / giving blow jobs etc on TV & generally being very disgusting. I don't think age comes into it at all & think Carol is probably right in what she called her, simply based on what Charlotte says about herself & her actions.

MN has been a nightmare tonight to get connected!!

Sparklysilversequins Fri 30-Aug-13 00:23:32

I don't think it's right for any woman of any age to call another woman a slag.

forehead Fri 30-Aug-13 00:44:31

Agree that Ron has got more cocky. I think that he will get himself into more trouble and that's why i want him to stay. He is an asshole and i hope that his 'career' comes to an end

EstelleGetty Fri 30-Aug-13 08:22:31

Ron was being a complete dick to Dustin. I hate people who go on like that - if someone's just being a bit waffly, that's no reason to fucking hound them and effectively mock the way they speak!

And Lauren, bloody hell, she doesn't seem well enough to be in there. What a reaction to nearly being nominated.

Coconutty Fri 30-Aug-13 08:58:06

I think it's a bit sad that Charlotte thinks she needs to be pretending to be pissed and then shouting that she's wet the bed. She was IMO putting that all on and it's a bit pathetic.

Lauren seems on anther planet but I did feel for her when she was in bed after the noms and everyone ignored her but were all over Charlotte.

Still liking Mario the best.

Fairenuff Fri 30-Aug-13 10:59:53

I think Charlotte wet the bed on purpose as part of her 'act' but now it's backfired and she is genuinely upset at being nominated. When Sophie was comforting her, Charlotte said, but I do it all the time on GS and no-one gives a toss (or something like that) and Sophie said, well this isn't GS it's BB. So, yes, a short, sharp, shock for Charlotte.

But Carole was bang out of order calling her a slag shock

Ron comes across as a right bully, telling others what to do and how to speak. I'm glad Lauren didn't let him interrupt her although he didn't actually listen to what she said.

However, all the people up are the ones that are interesting to watch and I don't want any of them to go yet. I suppose I wouldn't miss Courtney.

I never understand how they can get so upset though. They all nominated. They are all happy to sit there and give someone else's name but when theirs comes out of the bag they are up in arms. What's that all about. They do know there can only be one winner right?

Chipstick10 Fri 30-Aug-13 11:04:26

Lauren is very quick to nominate but was appalled that her name was read out. And all this "I've had a really tough time of it lately" "and don't nominate me because I wouldn't do it to you" wtf!!

Sparklysilversequins Fri 30-Aug-13 11:30:05

I think the shock when they're nominated is the inherent narcissism that's a part of being a celebrity and seeking fame. They all believe deep down that THEY are the best and most likeable grin and if NOT the winner, then certainly 2nd!

Charlottes only been nominated, she won't go, the public like her. Hopefully she's had a bit of a lesson from this. I think Lauren will go. If Ron disappeared in a puff of smoke I wouldn't give a hoot.

HotCrossPun Fri 30-Aug-13 11:30:54

Ron is a horrible bully. Even with everything that has went on in his past he still can't contain his racist, misogynist, bigoted attitudes. Hearing him getting cheers the other night was so depressing.

Carol is a nasty piece of work. Calling another woman a slag is beyond the pale.

Janice is so very bitter, and I'm entirely sure why.

Mario slapped Sophie and got a formal warning for it. Why wasn't that shown?

Sparklysilversequins Fri 30-Aug-13 11:33:10

Slapped Sophie! shock Why? And how do you know?

Fairenuff Fri 30-Aug-13 11:39:06

I hope Lauren and Bruce get properly punished for talking about nominations. I think BB should show the house their noms video.

Or take all the food and leave everyone with basic rations, that'd be funny.

I don't think Courtney should be punished because she tried to not respond to Lauren.

thornrose Fri 30-Aug-13 11:50:14

I fear that this experience might make Ron think the majority of the public are on his side angry

Fairenuff Fri 30-Aug-13 11:52:38

Maybe they are thorn sad. I mean, who the hell was cheering him anyway? confused

thornrose Fri 30-Aug-13 11:54:29

As soon as I wrote that I thought, "God, they probably are on his side!"

buss Fri 30-Aug-13 11:59:17

The Daily Mail will love Ron

AnneEyhtMeyer Fri 30-Aug-13 12:00:35

Sadly a lot of the BB audience is young and probably don't know his past. Also, sadly a lot of people agree with him.

I heard on CBBBOTS last night that they have put the house on basic rations for discussing nominations, Fairenuff.

When did Mario hit Sophie?

HotCrossPun Fri 30-Aug-13 12:01:38


It was in a few of the papers Sparkly , it's weird that it wasn't mentioned on BB confused

Chipstick10 Fri 30-Aug-13 12:17:34

Bb show what they want. Did they show carol getting her warning? Why show it all.? It's laughable. They bleeped out carol saying the n word when telling louis why Ron was sacked from the radio yet then played it in full in the diary room. Wtf? We didn't need to know it at all.
Why didn't they show the play fight between Sophie and mario.?
Why didn't they show in full lauren keeping on about getting nominated?
Why didn't they show louis crying?
Bb editing!!!
I find it sad that young people think Charlotte is fabulous. If that is what "kids" aspire to then god help us.

Sparklysilversequins Fri 30-Aug-13 12:35:48

I don't think they aspire to be like Charlotte at all. On GS she has been in love with one of her fellow housemates throughout. He didn't treat her very well, horribly at times in fact and she was very open about her pain and heartbreak over it. I think that's what the audience respond to with her.

TukTuk Fri 30-Aug-13 16:55:00

As well as having the shopping they ordered taken away (for the nomination talk ) I think they have also lost power for the straighteners / hairdryer and hot water .

Jellykat Fri 30-Aug-13 21:17:48

Lauren is definitely cracking up, but also doing a lot of pushy emotional blackmail stuff, for that she's beginning to get on my tits now.

On a lighter note .. Marios mankini !! grin

nancy75 Fri 30-Aug-13 21:28:38

What is going on with laurens face?

Jellykat Fri 30-Aug-13 21:35:32

and Laurens mother going on about her back trouble .. yet more emotional blackmail.

nancy75 Fri 30-Aug-13 21:43:02

I am finding lauren slightly creepy in the way she is being with Courtney

TartanRug Fri 30-Aug-13 21:45:18

I like Courtney. Lauren is really creeping me out with her obsession with Courtney.

Yes Tartan me too!

I feel really sorry for Courtney. She under lots of pressure from Lauren. Thank god she didn't invite her to the slumber party

Lauren could end up ruining Courtney's experience.

Wishfulmakeupping Fri 30-Aug-13 21:56:17

Lauren creepy as fuck.
Carole is spineless went back on everything she said about Sophie - shit stiring wimp.

TartanRug Fri 30-Aug-13 22:00:56

I thought carol would be OK but my god she's totally two faced. Sophie just annoys me in every way. Lauren loves the drama.

PinkSippyCup Fri 30-Aug-13 22:00:56

As much as Lauren is annoying/ creepy, I really don't want to watch her walk out to booing. I don't think she would cope with it.

She doesn't seem like she is emotionally stable enough to be in there to me.

(Not that I'm in anyway qualified in these matters grin)

TartanRug Fri 30-Aug-13 22:02:27

I don't really think Lauren is equipped for this programme to be honest.

thornrose Fri 30-Aug-13 22:02:53

Ugh, Carol, encouraging Lauren to have a go at Sophie then standing back and acting innocent.

Then to cap it all she followed Lauren into the bedroom and congratulated her confused

Yeah Carol is a spiteful cow.

I am starting to feel sorry for Lauren. She is too vulnerable to be in there. And Courtney is paying a price for that. As is Lauren. :-(

thornrose Fri 30-Aug-13 22:05:06

I'm scared for Lauren too, I'm not convinced she will have passed any kind of psychological testing.

Jellykat Fri 30-Aug-13 22:05:19

I don't know if Laurens being a drama queen and laying it on thick, in an attempt to get the sympathy vote and stay in.. She was a bolshy cow on BBOTS with Pete Burns, the complete opposite to now. confused

thornrose Fri 30-Aug-13 22:08:32

BBOTS is very different from being in that house and having your popularity put to the test I guess?

peppapigmustdie Fri 30-Aug-13 22:14:03

Thank God the Racist git is out. I wonder if Emma will ask him about the bomb comment!

peppapigmustdie Fri 30-Aug-13 22:16:22

I was also hoping that Lauren has to leave for any reason other than eviction, would find it very uncomfortable to see her come out to booing.

Jellykat Fri 30-Aug-13 22:22:15

I guess thornrose.. but she knew what BB was about, if that sensitive why even contemplate putting your popularity to the test? I don't get it..

Emmas not going to ask anything dicey as per.

thornrose Fri 30-Aug-13 22:25:02

I know Jelly, I agree, but I feel like some people should be told "No you aren't up to it!" ridiculously naive of me I know!

It makes great tv etc etc....

Chipstick10 Fri 30-Aug-13 22:26:43

I'm sorry I know you will all think I'm out of order but lauren just totally creeps me out. Her desperate neediness makes me feel so uncomfortable. I don't like the emotional blackmail and I feel really sorry for Courtney.

thornrose Fri 30-Aug-13 22:29:05

Chipstick, I wholeheartedly agree with you!!

Me too. I wish she wasn't in there.

But I also feel sorry for her :-(

Jellykat Fri 30-Aug-13 22:37:00

I don't feel sorry for her i'm afraid.

Michelle Gayle looks stunning on BBOTS, fair play!

AnneEyhtMeyer Fri 30-Aug-13 22:39:14

DISCLAIMER: I haven't watched tonight's yet due to DH watching the football.

I think Lauren is struggling because she has no concept of how to deal with people. She has lived a very sheltered life, with controlling parents. I really feel for her because she is totally ill-equipped to deal with the people in the house. She has admitted she is friendless out of the house. She doesn't understand the social rules.

Jellykat Fri 30-Aug-13 22:40:28

My god, shes 42 shock

peppapigmustdie Fri 30-Aug-13 22:42:47

I can't beilive that two black women are being kind about Ron.
There are many times that I have done or said things that needed an apology afterwards but you would only use the N word if it was in my everyday vocabulary which it isn't! He was comfortable enough to drop it in when he thought the mic was off, which tells you he knew it was wrong.

forehead Fri 30-Aug-13 22:43:27

Is Michelle Gayle 42?
She looks great

forehead Fri 30-Aug-13 22:49:13

Peppa- I think that they were trying to be diplomatic.
Michelle is very astute and knew that people would be expect her to slag Ron off.

Jellykat Fri 30-Aug-13 22:51:30

Yep Michelle was born in 71 apparently.

I can see what you're saying Anne.. will see what happens tomorrow.

peppapigmustdie Fri 30-Aug-13 22:55:36

I have really really tried but I cannot take to AJ's way of presenting, think Rylan is a natural presenter though.

thornrose Fri 30-Aug-13 22:56:28

Ha ha ha love Rusty saying "I don't like slackness" when it was suggested she'd enjoy Geordie Shore grin

forehead Fri 30-Aug-13 22:58:08

AJ is an awful presenter.

Chipstick10 Fri 30-Aug-13 23:00:09

Aj is stunning,

peppapigmustdie Fri 30-Aug-13 23:02:44

chipstick I wasn't commenting on her appearance. She is beautiful.

Chipstick10 Fri 30-Aug-13 23:27:31

peppa aj is beautiful but an absolutely dreadful presenter, totally agree.

Jellykat Fri 30-Aug-13 23:43:43

Danielle is still gunning for Sophie on BBOTS, and in a truly tacky bitter way, seriously what is her problem?.. Calm down dear hmm

Chipstick10 Fri 30-Aug-13 23:49:27

I'm quite warming to Charlotte, she's very much on the ball and was like a greyhound out of the pen when she saw lauren feeding Courtney the pills. Which incidentally I found too creepy for words. Lauren creeps me out so Badly I feel I'm being unreasonable. Everything about her from her clothes to her make up make me shudder. I am surprised by my own reactions, how weird!!

Fairenuff Fri 30-Aug-13 23:52:44

Thank goodness Courtney had the sense not to take the pills. Lauren hasn't got a clue. She could really harm someone with her innocent 'help' shock

Chipstick10 Sat 31-Aug-13 00:00:33

Omg I know, the way she put them in her mouth and just told her to swallow. And the face on her when she wasn't picked for the slumber party. Poor Courtney. I hope it's not spoiling her experience.

Sparklysilversequins Sat 31-Aug-13 00:38:23

I think Courtney's stronger than she looks. She was so funny when singing and crying at the same time grin. She is standing up to Lauren in her own way, picking her fellow American for the slumber party was clever, think she is gradually beginning to distance herself. I have to say I wish Lauren had gone tonight.

Carols a cow but she's good TV. Sophie and her waving everyone else away when people are upset is doing my head in. Is Vicky even still in there? She gets no camera time at all.

I liked Charlotte before and I still like her now, she or Abz are my faves to win but I am liking Mario too.

Chipstick10 Sat 31-Aug-13 00:45:36

I quite like Charlotte and abz, also wish lauren had gone tonight, she's doing my head in, and she will win, mario is ok, better than when in towie,

mrsjay Sat 31-Aug-13 08:57:36

glad Ron went he didnt really do anything did he , I used to like carol straight talking blah blah but she is just stirring and really nasty, Sophie does like a drama I hope she goes next, does lauren really still live with her family and her cats it sounds a strange way of life and I bet her mum still picks up after her, I am warming to charlotte a little bit, and courtney is adorable wish she would put them away though saw nipple last night ,

mrsjay Sat 31-Aug-13 08:58:48

she's very much on the ball and was like a greyhound out of the pen when she saw lauren feeding Courtney the pill

she was right on the ball wasn't she courtney didnt take them whatever they were probably for acid reflux but still Lauren is creepy

Kaluki Sat 31-Aug-13 09:29:36

Agree with Chapstick. Lauren is creepy and strange. It was like a scene from the film Misery when she gave her the pills ... DP said she'll be hobbling her next!!
She is a bitch but Carole made me laugh with her stirring yesterday although Lauren locking herself in the loo just shows she can't handle it in there!

mrsjay Sat 31-Aug-13 09:30:50

what was Bruce's rage about I know Lauren was a pain in the arse hiding in the toilet but his raging would have scared me witless

Chipstick10 Sat 31-Aug-13 10:52:10

Wasn't she in the toilet for two hours!!! Also according to another forum lauren was following Courtney round the dance floor last night. I wish someone would tell her to back off, think Courtney is too nice to say anything,

Fairenuff Sat 31-Aug-13 10:55:05

Lauren really needs to get away from her family home and live in the community. I understand that she feels safe and looked after there but she doesn't seem to be learning any life skills.

She could do with a little modern flat with it's own front door and a small garden and someone to come in two or three times a week to show her how to shop, cook, clean, garden and socialise. I wonder if she can drive?

Her life has been so sad.

Sparklysilversequins Sat 31-Aug-13 11:00:39

Well I think Charlotte will help Courtney now, she said that she feels bad that they've left her to deal with it alone and it could ruin her experience in there.

I hope Charlotte sticks to her word and does help Courtney.

mrsjay Sat 31-Aug-13 11:37:01

that is when I started to warm to charlotte she seems clued up and aware what is going on around her and realised Lauren was obsessed with Courtney, I do think she likes LAuren though just lauren needs to give her a break, I don't know if it was clever editing or not but her face was like thunder when she was sitting at the window and courtney and dustin were in the slumber party. oh and dustin in a teeny tiny nightie <shudder>

TukTuk Sat 31-Aug-13 12:01:57

Oh but could you imagine that 'party' had she (Courtney) fallen to the pressure and picked Lauren .......

I am starting to feel embarrassed for Danielle - she is making herself look a right knob with all this bitterness

AJ - I am surprised she got past the 'reading the autocue ' bit at telly presenting class grin

Coconutty Sat 31-Aug-13 12:33:38

I think that Lauren is like that woman from the book Misery, next she'll break Courtney's ankles so she can't get up, so she can 'take proper care' of her and stop her ever leaving.

I do feel sorry for her but she is utterly strange.

AJ is shit, no way will she be back next year. Like Rylan though.

Coconutty Sat 31-Aug-13 12:34:41

And Carol is a gobshite, she totally lied about saying that Sophie is a know all and I think it's okay to be outspoken but not okay to lie and deny it.

FannyMcNally Sat 31-Aug-13 12:41:54

Carole's terrible! She basically said to Louis let's slag the others off and then Louis did all the talking and she barely said a word. I wouldn't trust her in RL at all. Although fun to watch if you're not in the firing line I suppose.grin

Chipstick10 Sat 31-Aug-13 13:03:59

Having watched lose women in the past, I always really liked carol. Thought she was pretty up front and I often agreed with a lot of what she said. I am quite shocked at the carol I am now seeing on bb. Not so much up front but pretty sly, bitchy and quite cruel.
Bb must really be hoping lauren wins because if she doesn't i think she will fall apart ,( I do think she has a kind of sense of entitlement,) and questions will then be asked about how the bb producers let her in when she clearly shouldn't be there.

TukTuk Sat 31-Aug-13 13:22:20

I think BOTS have given Lauren the sense of entitlement - remember their campaign to get Lauren in the house and telling her how fantastic she'd be etc.

I did laugh at the bit on BOTS where HM's were saying why the public would know them and Lauren said we'd know her from Wogan or from BOTS where she was a 'fashion guru' !

Fairenuff Sat 31-Aug-13 13:29:04

Actually I do still like Carol, apart from that comment about Charlotte.

She is mixing it up in there on purpose to give us all something to watch and something to talk about.

She knows what she is doing and she is enjoying it. She has a wicked sense of humour and the others are so up themselves that they take it all so seriously and get offended really easily.

The other housemates are trying to portray an image they want the public to see. Sophie will never admit she is wrong, or actually have a proper conversation where she listens to other person's point of view and takes on board their comments. She's just, 'ok darling, if that's what you think, sweetheart'. So shallow.

Carol was genius in getting Louie to slag off all the others whilst she said nothing. It's funny to watch. They are all so insular, they can't see what she's doing.

Chipstick10 Sat 31-Aug-13 14:23:57

I think you might be right about carol, she is being blatantly mischievous. Lol about the fashion guru comment. She dresses like miss haversham. She also thinks she is qualified to style people's hair. I did laugh when they asked on bbbots who the most famous persons number in their phone was and lauren said Oprah. Mind you I suppose that's probably true, Oprah may well have interviewed her.
I loved Courtney singing the American anthem whilst crying and abz reciting Shakespeare whilst eating peppers and wearing a rather fetching bonnet that I'm sure lauren could pull off.

TukTuk Sat 31-Aug-13 14:34:34

Chipstick - Bet it turns out BB didn't supply the bonnet wink
Fanny - I also think that Carol is playing it for the viewers

TukTuk Sat 31-Aug-13 14:36:23

Oh and if it was from the BB dressing up box - bet Lauren has squirreled it away to wear with the while blouse with the mahoosive puffed up sleeves !

mrsjay Sat 31-Aug-13 15:02:03

yah i agree carol is stirring it but she can be a bit mean I thought she was awful for letting lauren take the slack and turned it round as if she didnt say anything

12thDoctorsCompanion Sat 31-Aug-13 17:12:35

Courtneys after the tits votes-falling out of her bra thing last night. dont think shes at all as innocent as she seems.

Lauren- i feel so sorry for her.
Carol- 2 faced female dog.
Mario- ewwww-put it away.
Bruce and the other corrie person are just boring really.
sophie-hopefully out next. good for Lauren standing up to her but again, carol stirring it all up.

onedev Sat 31-Aug-13 18:41:55

I like Carol & think she's simply playing a game.

mrsjay Sat 31-Aug-13 18:47:47

yes she is having fun and being naughty but i do think she is being a wee bit mean sometimes

AnneEyhtMeyer Sat 31-Aug-13 20:28:26

Watching yesterday's now.

Lauren looks like Bette Davis in Whatever Happened To Baby Jane.

Lighthousekeeping Sat 31-Aug-13 20:34:44

Did anyone see Courtney's husband? I never but my friend said he wasn't what she expected at all.

AnneEyhtMeyer Sat 31-Aug-13 21:00:52
Lighthousekeeping Sat 31-Aug-13 21:06:23

It wouldn't be so bad if she didn't have those boobs.

Chipstick10 Sat 31-Aug-13 21:09:28

Pmsl. She does look like bette Davis crossed with miss haversham, crossed with Margaret thatcher crossed with the doll in the back of Del Boys van. Also she walks like mrs overall and hinge and bracket and she kind of reminds me of Norma Desmond. You know what I mean, like a fading actress who thinks she is still beautiful and desirable.
Courtney's husband was very nice and nothing at all like I imagined. I had in mind some sort of face lifted scary old man like Hugh Hefner.

Jellykat Sat 31-Aug-13 21:21:45

Don't hold back Chipstick.. grin

(a brilliant description btw)

Coconutty Sat 31-Aug-13 22:00:39

I can't stand Carol - she totally bottled out of telling Sophie that she thinks she's a know all.

I don't think she's being mischievous, I think she is just a bitch.

Still cringing a bit at, "pick your best friend in the house, Courtney, your best friend" by Lauren shortly before she tried to poison cure her with 'stomach tablets'

thornrose Sat 31-Aug-13 22:06:26

Those breasts, ow, why do they look so painful?

thornrose Sat 31-Aug-13 22:24:43

Oh great I'm talking to myself grin sad

Jellykat Sat 31-Aug-13 22:26:21

They do don't they thornrose, the skins always very red on them, and boy her back's gonna be in trouble as she gets older.

Chipstick10 Sat 31-Aug-13 22:26:31

Poor dustin, why didn't they just let him have his moment and win them treats. Lauren is truly bizarre .

Jellykat Sat 31-Aug-13 22:27:30

grin No you're not, i'm just a one finger typer grin