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Patchouli Mon 12-Aug-13 16:25:06

I'm soooo excited
I cannot wait til DC's bedtime tonight!

wintertimeisfun Mon 12-Aug-13 17:15:25

i'm desperate to watch this but it's not available on 'normal' tv, or at least i don't think it is......killing me not being able to watch it and only read others reviews :-(

lifesgreatquestions Mon 12-Aug-13 17:19:12


(or should I say "yo bitch!")

We just finished season 5 on dvd and are torn between getting Netflix or waiting for it to come out on dvd. We've watched the whole series since starting 7 weeks ago. I sometimes feel a little rough as a result.

wintertimeisfun Mon 12-Aug-13 17:24:48

OMG so excited, just checked our netflix account and we DO have access to it (i thought it was a 'special' netflix fancy application or something that you needed to be able to view it). to say that i am excited is a little off tilt. i am such a looser grin

wintertimeisfun Mon 12-Aug-13 17:26:05

life i recommend you pay the £5.99 a month for netflix. aside from the obvious (being able to watch the new BB episodes) NF is really good, i rarely watch tv but instead, watch NF!

Cooroo Mon 12-Aug-13 21:41:41

Just watched it. Excellent. What can I say? Nothing if no one else has seen it yet. Can't believe Netflix didn't advertise this at all. So exciting!

UseHerName Mon 12-Aug-13 21:43:49

im watching it right now eeeeekk grin

DisappointedHorse Mon 12-Aug-13 22:05:43

I just watched it, can we post spoilers here?

NotInTheMood Mon 12-Aug-13 22:08:26

I've just watched the 1st episode season 1 and not really feeling it does it get better???

MirrorballMoon Mon 12-Aug-13 22:10:04

Just exciting! Loved the face-off between Walter and Hank...can't wait to see how this develops..! shock

Cooroo Mon 12-Aug-13 22:12:54

notinthemood I loved it from the start but many people have said it grows on them so stick with it! And leave this thread before you are utterly spoiled!

Cooroo Mon 12-Aug-13 22:15:24

Ok... Spoilers allowed now? I wasn't expecting that to happen so soon but it was a delight. Jesse was fantastic. So depressed, so apathetic, all that money and it means less than nothing to him. Nadia isn't going to let Walt off that lightly is she?

thenightsky Mon 12-Aug-13 22:17:26

NotInTheMood Watch Series 1 and think of it as a prequel to the main thing which starts proper in series 2.

God I love Breaking Bad. Not got Netflix here so will be waiting for series 5/2 to appear on dvd on Amazon.

I might avoid this thread actually as I am terrified of coming across a spoiler!

Cooroo Mon 12-Aug-13 22:22:48

Am surprised people weren't hooked early on. What do you do when you have a 2 dead bodies to deal with? And one isn't dead? And your bath isn't acid-proof?

And it's all so well shot (and I don't usually notice things like that).

BazilGin Mon 12-Aug-13 22:38:51

Where is it going to go? The best tv I have ever seen. Just watched it with many seconds until next Monday?
But seriously, which character would you like to survive? I have to say, Hank has always annoyed my guts so won't be sad to see him go, if that happens.

MirrorballMoon Mon 12-Aug-13 23:12:36

Hank used to annoy the heck out of me but I've grown to like his character later on. Walter, on the other hand, I now think is beyond redemption. So much deceit...! Don't think he even cares for Jesse any more. Their characters have gone full circle - each to the other side.
Can't wait for the next fix episode grin

Elsiequadrille Tue 13-Aug-13 02:01:38

I didn't expect the confrontation between Hank and Walter so soon! Goodness me, it was tense all the way through.

Patchouli Tue 13-Aug-13 20:26:59

"if you don’t know who I am, then maybe your best course would be to tread lightly".

oooooo love it!

Just watched it, Walt is such a contemptuous manipulater. I'm dying to watch his empire trash and burn.
Jessie is looking a bit fat!

tedmundo Fri 16-Aug-13 17:50:08

Ohhhh I was hoping there would be a BB thread.

patchouli .. Hank rightly looks nervous at that speech. To start with his anger makes him confront Walt with all guns blazing, but you see that it starts to dawn on him just who Walt is and how he has bitten off more than he can chew.

Jesse rocks. My ds1 is small, skinny but quite buff and I pray he looks like Jesse as an adult! So gorgeous.

itsallshitandmoreshit Fri 16-Aug-13 19:36:33

I love Breaking Bad so much. Best television ever. Best writing, casting, direction, acting, cinematography - I also don't notice stuff like that usually but it is superb!

It is a slow burn, season 1 was OK for me and as someone up thread said, in season 2 it really starts.

Its worth the time investment to see this genius piece of production.
I feel sorry for those who have never seen it. They have genuinely missed out IMHO.

Walter White aka Bryan Cranston must be the best character ever played on television. "SAY MY NAME" grin

KatyTheCleaningLady Mon 19-Aug-13 10:08:14

I want to cuddle Jesse Pinkman and tell him he's a good person who deserves to be happy. Love that character.

I love Jesse. I'm hoping that, in the end, Jesse walks away having dealt with Walt and making amends. Jesse is basically a good man, but Walt is corrupt to the core. I also like Hank, and thought the stand off was genius. I think we were all expecting that to drag on a bit, so getting it out of the way in the first episode means we now have no clue where it's going to go. Brave.

PollyPlummer Mon 19-Aug-13 10:23:43

Checking in for later, I love Jesse too. BITCH.
Last weeks episode was so good, loved the tread lightly comment.
I actually think the ricin might be for our beloved Jesse. sad I think they will all die in the last episode.

ccsays Mon 19-Aug-13 10:29:36

There is a theory polly

Has anyone watched the latest episode yet? I really, really want Jesse to tell all.

PollyPlummer Mon 19-Aug-13 10:35:47

shock Jeepers.
No haven't seen it yet. Cant wait.

KatyTheCleaningLady Mon 19-Aug-13 11:08:50

I think the last name PINKMAN is very bad news for our Jesse. Pink is not a good colour in BB.

gingertessa Tue 20-Aug-13 11:44:35

SPOILERS if you're not up to date:

I think Walt has to die to finish the show and I think Jesse will find out about him letting Jane die and poisoning Brock, so maybe then he will die by Jesse's hand?

Its one of the best tv shows ever IMO

Elsiequadrille Tue 20-Aug-13 11:47:30

I wondered at Walt dismissing out of hand the idea of killing Hank. Though it might have been a step too far for Skyler, and of course now Marie would also have to go now.

I think Jesse will work with Hank. He has nothing to lose, and can't live with the guilt.

StrangerintheNight Tue 20-Aug-13 17:28:00

I still don't think Walt would kill Jesse, after all they've done, but could see Skyler wanting to eliminate him. She's become pretty ruthless and he's the main loose end.

Can't see Jesse working with Hank unless he finds out about Jane/Brock - something's has to give in the next episode.

Anyway, I think there are loads of great ways to end the show, so will just go with the writers' flow (although if it involves too much Todd/Lydia I'll be disappointed, as am just not interested in them)

Cooroo Wed 21-Aug-13 06:47:29

That was a very focused episode and covered a short time span - how are they going to get to the flash forward in just 6 episodes??

Loved 'send him to Belize'. Surprised that Walt looked shocked after what he's become. Or is he just getting better at acting? And Lydia is every bit as ruthless. Does she think if she doesn't see it it didn't happen ?

TotemPole Wed 21-Aug-13 17:00:58

This is the best TV show I've seen. For both of these episodes I was glued to the screen and the time just flew by.

The showdown between Walt and Hank was brilliant, the acting was superb.

I'm still rooting for Walt. Even though he's done so many terrible things, I still want him to get away with it. But, I don't want Hank or Marie to get hurt in the process.

I wonder if they'll use Lydia as a scape goat and try to pin everything on her? Will Walt fake his own death? Is that why the neighbour looked so shocked to see him? And why was he going back for the poison?

Cooroo, only 6 more episodes? sad

Apparently there are plans for a spin off programme with Saul. That might fill some of the void BB leaves behind.

TotemPole Mon 26-Aug-13 23:18:16

Has anyone else seen the latest episode yet?

It's great.

StrangerintheNight Tue 27-Aug-13 09:38:45

Hi TotemPole, just watched the latest episode and its really picking up speed now, isn't it? Jesse's sad sack routine was definitely starting to grate, so I'm glad things escalated last night.

Elsiequadrille Tue 27-Aug-13 10:10:49

It was a great episode. And it's not that I want Walt to get away with it (the whole situation), as such. I want to see how he's going to get away with this (because surely he will).

TheFoosa Tue 27-Aug-13 10:39:37

amazing episode, was hooked throughout and devastated that it was over so quickly

TheFoosa Tue 27-Aug-13 10:40:33

I think that there has to be some final showdown between Walt & Jesse

it's all about them really

Patchouli Wed 28-Aug-13 14:39:17

Loved the "confession"! grin

wintertimeisfun Wed 28-Aug-13 16:49:29

OMG. dh and i saw the latest episode. it was fucking brilliant. aaron paul's acting in particular as the completely broken man was jaw dropping. i could barely watch the screen through the whole show. the ending was beyond anything. seriously can't wait until the next episode. had to pause it towards the end though and dd came down and said she felt sick...had to go and sit with her in the loo for about ten minutes...much to dh's annoyance as we had to pause the tv grin

m0nkeynuts Thu 29-Aug-13 17:29:49

RE the theory of Walt taking on characteristic etc. of each person he kills: His jacket in the flashforward does look like Jesse's .... but it also looks like Todd's See here!

proudmum95 Thu 29-Aug-13 23:08:19

AIBU to say that Skylar is the biggest victim of all involved in this show?

Ooh here you all are. I knew there had to be other BB fans here!

Haven't watched today's episode yet, hoping to get to see it tonight, DD's teething interrupted sleep permitting!

I adore Jesse, but can't help feeling he's not going to make it to the end of the series alive. I really hope I'm wrong though. Is he going to find out what really happened to Jane in this episode do you think?

Patchouli Tue 03-Sep-13 20:57:14

God. You watch an episode and think about it for at least the whole of the next day.
What is going to happen?!

StrangerintheNight Tue 03-Sep-13 21:08:29

Yes, Patchouli, I can't cope with just one episode a week. I just feel like I want to get them all out of the way so I can move on with my life.

At least I'm now longer waking at 2 in the morning on a Monday to check out the latest episode, for which I'm very proud of myself.

Spoilers (if that's not too late) : My prediction that Skyler would suggest killing Jesse came true! First time that's ever happened. I think his time has come anyway, he can't outsmart Walter White, can he?

thenightsky Tue 03-Sep-13 22:15:58

I hope Jesse comes out of it alive. Not seen last night's yet as DS forgot to download it for me!

Elsiequadrille Tue 03-Sep-13 22:32:10

I laughed at Saul talking about Old Yeller. Though I'm afraid I was surprised at Skyler making the same suggestion.

Cooroo Tue 03-Sep-13 22:58:41

Skyler, Hank and Saul all advocating murder! Walt was beginning to look like the good guy. Until the end. Is he setting Todd onto Jesse? Or Hank?

Really missing being able to watch lots of episodes end to end. How good is this show???

MirrorballMoon Tue 03-Sep-13 23:32:03

Yes, it's torture having to wait a whole week between episodes now!

The writing was so clever in this one (as always). So many twists and turns and the upper hand keeps on changing! So what do we think is Jesse's plan...?!

Elsiequadrille Tue 03-Sep-13 23:56:41

I don't know. Jesse said something about getting Walt where he really lives.

Maybe something to do with Walt's money or business (the car wash that is).

Cooroo Wed 04-Sep-13 06:51:26

I hope 'where you really live' doesn't mean Walt's kids??

Surely our Jesse couldn't break that bad?

2 things I noticed in this weeks episode. Firstly did you see the shot in Hank's house just after Jesse went to the bathroom. The camera was looking at Hank and the painting/photo of Marie on the wall through the back of the chair, framing them as if they were 'behind bars'. Also (and this may be a stretch) when Jesse was drinking from the DEA mug (which I loved) if you look at the mug and include the handle it spells DEA.D

Can't believe there are only 4 episodes left. How on earth are we going to make it to the flash forward we saw at the very start, with Walt celebrating his birthday in the diner?

TotemPole Wed 04-Sep-13 13:06:13

Yes, what is Jessie going to do? I don't think he'll physically hurt the children, because it's the actions against children that have put him in the mental state he's in now. If his 'where you really live' comment involves them, I think it's more likely he'll tell Walt Jnr the truth about his dad.

TotemPole Wed 04-Sep-13 13:07:46

I missed the scene in the diner(I think). Was it at the start of Ep9 or Ep1?

TheFallenNinja Wed 04-Sep-13 13:09:49

I've asked MNHQ to add the word spoiler to the thread title.

wintertimeisfun Wed 04-Sep-13 13:33:59

omg, I the latest episode with dh monday night and have had it off and on in my mind ever since (i don't get out much...actually, i drive alot for my job and have used it to distract me from jams on the M25). i love jesse, don't underestimate him. he came up with the heist idea AND the magnet one too smile. he could really stuff walter up if he wanted to, walt has alot caving in on him right now not to mention 'mad marie' who seems to be focusing on poisonous ideas instead of stealing. perhaps jesse knows where walt's cash is buried ie saul may have put a trace in with it when his lads packed it all up. that would kill walt if all his money was lost/ruined as that is why he got into this mess in the first place. i do still like walt though. that's the fab' thing about this prog, i love all of the characters. probably the best thing i have ever seen on tv action wise, even more than 24 and dexture. seriously good. is anyone watching talking bad on netflix? smile

It was the opener to episode 9 Totem.

Fairylea Wed 04-Sep-13 14:51:06



I love it. But I'm scared to read the thread properly as we're only on season 1! (Just incase of spoilers!)

This and orange is the new black make getting Netflix worth it alone!

Nope ignore that Totem it was the episode 1 opener!

StrangerintheNight Wed 04-Sep-13 15:14:59

The name of the next episode gives me a clue as to where Jesse thinks Walt 'really lives' but then again, it could be massive misdirection on the part of the writers.

Really liked the last episode as it was the funniest one in ages, and I was worried the show was starting to take itself a little too seriously.

StrangerintheNight Wed 04-Sep-13 15:20:52

Wintertime, if you really want something to distract you in the car then have you tried listening to the Insider podcast, which involves the creative team behind the show wittering on at great length about each episode (before running out of time and neglecting to talk about the really interesting stuff).

Even so it's more rewarding than the fluff that is Talking Bad.

wintertimeisfun Wed 04-Sep-13 16:29:19

stranger thanks! i may go and watch episode 1 and 4 again whilst dd finds something else to do :-D

RowanMumsnet (MNHQ) Wed 04-Sep-13 16:29:28

Hi there

We've added a spoiler warning to the title now

TheFallenNinja Wed 04-Sep-13 16:50:24


Elsiequadrille Wed 04-Sep-13 20:59:39

Yes, he (Jesse) won't harm the children as Hank wouldn't agree at all. Telling Walt Jr. would be interesting, he certainly wouldn't be happy.

Well spotted with the cup, Misslaughalot!

TotemPole Thu 05-Sep-13 12:33:53

misslaughalot, thanks.

Elsiequadrille Mon 09-Sep-13 22:39:38

I knew it, I guessed Jesse's plan was connected to Walt's money <sorry, am over- excitedly smug>

Elsiequadrille Mon 09-Sep-13 23:52:59

What an ending, and an episode, though. Hank's surely not going to make it is he?

Patchouli Tue 10-Sep-13 13:48:54

and double shock

It did seem like Hank's conversation on the phone to Marie were going to be his last words.
Jessie will know he was the 'hit' now.

TotemPole Tue 10-Sep-13 15:51:38

Yes, shock.

That was so tense.

Only 3 more episodes to go.sad

StrangerintheNight Tue 10-Sep-13 16:23:55

I didn't get the ending. Why were the gang firing at Walt's car but not at Jesse's? Why did they ignore Walt's multiple requests to call it off. Have they got some other plan of their own.

Is anyone else hoping Jesse and Walt team up one last time? I can see it heading that way, despite everything.

TotemPole Tue 10-Sep-13 16:35:41

They've proved in other episodes that they are good shots, but this episode they didn't hit Hank or Gormez. So it would seem the plan isn't to kill Jesse. There are quite a few theories on the BB thread on digital spy.

I don't know, maybe it could be to make it look as though Jesse is the guilty one, not Walt. Or maybe they've decided to kill Walt and take Jesse to cook instead.

wintertimeisfun Tue 10-Sep-13 18:07:20

OMG saw latest episode last night. i had a pillow to my face when the nazi blokes arrived with guns etc. it could go so many ways, next episode seems a long way off..... :-( superb stuff in the exreme

Patchouli Wed 11-Sep-13 14:14:56

Oh yes Stranger! My DH keeps saying they'll be cooking together by the end.

AlannaPartridge Wed 11-Sep-13 18:29:48

I reckon that Meth Damon & the Nazis will take Jesse hostage and force him to cook & Walt rescues him.....hence the scary gun in the flash forward.

Gutted that Walt was willing to kill Jesse. I was rooting for him right up until that moment.

wintertimeisfun Thu 12-Sep-13 18:02:48

oh yes, that is an exciting prospect, walt and jesse teaming up again. that might make alot of sense and may explain walt with the gun etc. what a fantastic possibility. i always LOVED jesse and walt together. walt never felt good about having to knock off jesse. he did say how jesse was family but that he wouldn't listen (my point it, he does still care for him, he wanted his death to be quick and painless.....). so excited for the remaining episodes. i watch talking bad earlier, hank is on next week smile

FrillyMilly Thu 12-Sep-13 21:01:19

Mondays episode was one of the best things I've ever seen on TV. It felt like I was only watching it for about 15 minutes. I really don't know how it's going to end although I do feel bad for Walt Jr as presumably he will find out and he's also been so innocent.

It has been confirmed that there is going to be a spin off show about Saul.

Ooh I was coming here to mention Better Call Saul what a great way to bring back some characters who haven't made it to the end of Breaking
Bad (especially Mike, I loved him!)

For those who haven't seen

AlannaPartridge Fri 13-Sep-13 01:02:10

Have you all seen Saul's website? Really funny - especially the ad about the plane crash!

Better Call Saul

Oh -and here's Walt Jr's Save Walter White page. You can donate & everything wink

AlannaPartridge Fri 13-Sep-13 01:03:55

Hope Huell & Kuby are in the spin off. Huell brightens my day!

fascicle Fri 13-Sep-13 10:07:52

he did say how jesse was family but that he wouldn't listen (my point it, he does still care for him, he wanted his death to be quick and painless.....)

It's a testament to the genius of the programme that the viewer can perceive this almost as an act of kindness on Walt's part (i.e. the quick and painless bit). Walt is now effectively a calculating serial killer and yet there's still a desire to find some redeeming features in him.

Patchouli Sat 14-Sep-13 21:37:31

I always thin Saul looks like a comedy Kevin Costner

Snowballed Mon 16-Sep-13 10:56:59

OMG. Just seen ep14 on Netflix. Have no idea how this is going to end & the next week is going to be a long wait until the next episodesad

Elsiequadrille Mon 16-Sep-13 11:12:59

My goodness.
And Walt's phone call, where he made sure Skyler would be exonerated from any blame (of course he knew the police were there).

wintertimeisfun Mon 16-Sep-13 12:14:38

OMG i just watched the latest episode alone. i sat there with my hands over my face for alot of it or had to fast forward to see what was to come before winding it back. gutted as it has taken a seriously dark turn. i was still holding out for him and jesse to cook together again; or that walt was going to rescue jesse. somehow i don't think that is going to happen now..

StrangerintheNight Mon 16-Sep-13 13:01:31

'My goodness' is the most restrained response to this episode that I've seen Elsie!

An annoying combination of builders and children means I probably won't get to watch it today, but couldn't help reading some of the reviews to prepare myself for the worst. I liked it back in the simpler, good-old days of acid-baths and choking on vomit, I can't cope with this level of intensity.

Snowballed Mon 16-Sep-13 13:45:45

Intense is the only word I can use to describe it wink

IfYouLoveSomebodyLetThemSleep Mon 16-Sep-13 16:26:57

shock shock shock at today's episode!

I reckon he's off to save Jesse next. Surely he can't just leave him with that gang, we all know he loves him really.

Bloody Skyler though, she doesn't half get in his way sometimes!

Cybercat Mon 16-Sep-13 16:33:53

Ooooh I probably won't get to watch this until 9pm tonight - what happened? We are hooked in our house!

IfYouLoveSomebodyLetThemSleep Mon 16-Sep-13 16:36:21

Cyber there's to much to say, you're best off hiding this and watching for yourself cos its a good one!

Cybercat Mon 16-Sep-13 16:46:58

Never! I have to know this stuff - not being able to google/wiki episodes in advance is killing me!

IfYouLoveSomebodyLetThemSleep Mon 16-Sep-13 17:37:14

Are you sure you want to know? It seems so wrong to spoil it for you!

Cybercat Mon 16-Sep-13 18:21:02

I need the warnings - I get so sucked in to these series that I get reeeeally tense when Im watching!

TotemPole Mon 16-Sep-13 18:29:35

Cyber, don't spoil it for yourself.

TotemPole Mon 16-Sep-13 18:33:13

All I will say is that it was better than last weeks episode.grin

Cybercat Mon 16-Sep-13 19:10:49

Damn you! I am sat on the sofa with netflix open in front of me but I promised DH I would wait until he came home. Grump! He isn't due back until well after 9.

TotemPole Mon 16-Sep-13 20:08:21


breakingbadaddict Mon 16-Sep-13 20:37:23

Just watched it. Every episode makes my stomach flip! I bloody love it!!

DevlinMaccabee Mon 16-Sep-13 22:13:09

Very intense!

Is it next Monday yet? Don't think I can wait a whole week..

Cooroo Mon 16-Sep-13 22:16:59

Only 2 more episodes! Talk about going out with a bang. Thank god he paid a visit to the fire brigade. Buried indeed. Just so so intense and gripping.

CakeInMyFace Mon 16-Sep-13 22:26:22

Holy Shit just found this thread and had to comment. Just watched it and I seriously almost cried. So intense but brilliant tv!

Cybercat Mon 16-Sep-13 22:27:05

Bloody DH is still not home and I've had to get ready for bed. Should have watched it by myself.

Cooroo Mon 16-Sep-13 22:32:12

But Cybercat you've got 3 whole episodes to look forward to, think of that. Hmmm I think I would have had to watch and pretend to DP I hadn't. Which would be very hard.

Cybercat Mon 16-Sep-13 22:46:45

I'm all up to date apart from the most recent episode. DH is back and I've warned him I won't be waiting next time. We've got the new Sons of Anarchy episode to watch too.

AlannaPartridge Mon 16-Sep-13 22:49:38


Extraordinary episode.


I think Walt saves Jesse & then Jesse kills him. The Jane reveal was the end for Walt and Jesse sad

Elsiequadrille Mon 16-Sep-13 22:58:25

Yes, "my goodness" was rather restrained, Stranger grin

DisappointedHorse Mon 16-Sep-13 23:15:35

What can I say really? I barely breathed for the entire episode.

The scene in the desert was painful but the aftermath was devastating. Everything he did it for, gone.

The phone call to Skylar was incredible acting from them both and I didn't immediately twig what he was doing.

Alanna, I think you may be right. I don't think there can be any coming back from that. I think it's testament to BB's acting, writing and direction though that on some level I still want him to get away. Despite all he's done.

breakingbadaddict Tue 17-Sep-13 00:37:03

I still want him to get away with it too! Ha! Is that bad?! I don't think he will, he can't, it would be a crap ending if he did. They can't go all Lost on us with a shit ending!

Elsiequadrille Tue 17-Sep-13 01:18:02

And it's also wanting to see how he's going to manage to get away with it I think. It will possibly be the cancer that gets him in the end.

I'm wondering what it is that will bring him out of hiding, and needing the guns and ricin.

AlannaPartridge Tue 17-Sep-13 03:10:46

Some things that I missed, but cleverer people than I spotted....

* The chess game has the White King almost checkmated, but with a couple more moves to go

* First we had the Problem dog (Gale), then we had the Rabid dog/Old Yeller (Jesse) - then we have the Stray Dog (assuming this is Walt)

* There's an incredible shot where Walt is standing by his car after it's broken down. You can see his reflection in the car and the top of his head is caved in by a bullet hole shock

* As Walt is rolling the barrel through the desert, there's a pair of beige trousers on the ground. Gilligan confirmed these were Walt's trousers from the pilot

And here's what I think is interesting.....most of Walt's actions in this were not Heisenbergian (my new word!). He was willing to give up everything to save Hank's life, he tried to clear Skyler with that phone call and he gave back Holly. The only Heisenberg thing was his hatred of Jesse, and I think the Jane thing was pure spite.

I need to get out more. Can't wait till next week smile

Cooroo Tue 17-Sep-13 06:39:55

I was really thick and didn't realise what was going on in the phone call although I could see how hard it was for him. Love how they gave him all the Skyler haters' words.

Loved the car reflection, the dog and Jesse's birds.

breakingbadaddict Tue 17-Sep-13 07:56:27

Alanna, amazing thanks for pointing them out! I did see some things & thought they must be significant but my brain doesn't work fast enough when I'm enthralled!

That was...painful. I can't bear what is happening to Jesse. Seeing him shackled like that was somehow worse than all the murders that have gone before. I will admit to a 'NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO' at Hank's exit. The acting is superb. I really want that evil little shit who's cooking with Jesse to get his. Fucker.

StrangerintheNight Tue 17-Sep-13 09:37:22

Eek, that was grim. Love how Walt is still utterly baffled that his family don't respect and admire him for what he's done.

Another good call-back to earlier episodes was Poor Jesse's face looking very much like Gus Fring's post-bomb face and also the pink plane-crash teddy.

AlannaPartridge Tue 17-Sep-13 09:50:52

Yes, yes to Jesse's face looking like Fring's. I thought that too because when he was looking at the photo it looked like his eye was completely gone.

Where was the teddy? Missed that.

shock OMG what an episode!

Hank's demise was brutal. I knew it was coming yet still gasped when it happened.

Loved seeing Walt's trousers out in the desert, and good spot with Jesse's face being like Gus's and the pink teddy. Alanna the teddy was from the plane crash in the earlier seasons, Walt found it in his pool and half of its face was burnt.

Also, Walt lying on the ground in pieces after Hank was shot reminded me of Gus lying by the pool in his flashback when he went to see Don Eladio.

Also, have you guys seen this?

Breaking Bad 16 bit game

I also think Walt must be going back for Jesse, but doesn't he think Jesse's dead?

Maybe he's going to get his money back from Uncle Evil and then stumbles upon Jesse...

Whatever happens, OMFG! It's just so tense. I can barely stand it.

Lottapianos Tue 17-Sep-13 15:34:25

I cried through about half of last night's episode. It was pure agony. Poor Hank sad He was so brave - I would have begged and pleaded and promised Jack anything under the sun. I thought until the last second that he may have had a way out of it and it was just heartbreaking when he shot him.

And Marie sad I love Marie.

And poor Walt Jr sad He's such a sweetie.

And Jesse sad sad sad Surely there can be no way back for him and Walt. I can't believe Walt told him about Jane - that was unbearably cruel.

Not for the first time, I've sat and watched what happens and thought 'how on earth did it come to all this?' The brief scene at the start of the episode showed how much Walt has changed - seeing him rehearsing the lie he was going to tell Skylar, putting so much effort into it, whereas now......

I do realise it's not real by the way wink

I have absolutely no clue how the last 2 episodes are going to wrap up. I predict lots more tears, though unbearable tension as well as sadness!

AlannaPartridge Tue 17-Sep-13 15:54:48

Miss Oh, I know about the teddy from before, I thought it had made a reappearance yesterday. I misread.

Maybe Walt goes back for Jesse's confession DVD?

tobiasfunke Tue 17-Sep-13 16:29:58

I've caught up now so I can join the discussion without fearing spoilers. The last two episodes were amazing.

Why is Todd bothering to cook meth when he has his share of the 70 million dollars? Is it because he seems to have some sort of creepy attraction to Lydia and wants to please her. DH noticed that Todd was left alone with Walt in a lot of the desert scenes and was wondering whether it was Walt's idea for him to take Jesse. Watching it back we couldn't really tell and why would he do it? I did wonder if Walt telling Jesse about Jane was a confession of sorts not just pure evil as it was the last big secret.

DH and I are presuming the big gun we see him with in the opening scene of the series is to go back and use against the Nazis. Is it because he knows or finds out that Jesse is being held there and wants to free him or is it to revenge Hanks death -after all a lot of the last episode seemed to be all about redemption and making good.

Do you think poor Huell is still sitting in that room?

I worry about Marie as the Nazis are off to look for the confession DVD. Mind you if they do off her it will save Alberquerque from the mother of all shoplifting sprees.

breakingbadaddict Tue 17-Sep-13 17:29:11

Do you think Jesse & Walt will have a stand off in the last episode, I love this magazine cover;
I too felt so much sympathy for Jesse, but surely he can't get off scott free either, he is a crim after all!
I think Todd wants to cook meth to try and get his leg over Lydia, I don't predict things will end well for her either...

AlannaPartridge Tue 17-Sep-13 18:57:02

See - the whole Jesse/Walt thing confuses me, and for the life of me I cannot see what's coming. I can't even hazard a guess.

Their relationship has been the engine driving this show, in my opinion, and I simply cannot believe that it'll end with one shooting the other in the head. I just can't.

But they clearly hate each other now, and there's no coming back from that. Unless, unless......someone pointed out that Walt & Meth Damon were alone in the desert while the Nazis were digging up the money, so maybe Walt told freak boy to save Jesse for some convoluted reason. But that doesn't really explain the Jane reveal hmm

I really, really want Jesse to survive & not end up on death row. He killed Gale to save Walt's life, so I can forgive him for that (although I LOVED Gale), but he never deserved all the shit that he's had to deal with. I keep thinking back to that boy with the "Yo, Biatch" ansaphone message and his "Build a robot???" when the RV broke down. Now he's a shaking wreck who seems 20 years older sad

Oh, and RIP Hank. "My name is ASAC Schrader...and you can go fuck yourself". Class.

Snowballed Tue 17-Sep-13 19:07:21

I typed a nice long comment out & it's gone into the ether hmm

Anyway - who sprayed Heisenberg at the house???

AlannaPartridge Tue 17-Sep-13 19:11:58

Anyway - who sprayed Heisenberg at the house???

We're assuming it was written with hatred/scorn - maybe it's an admiring thing? Which might mean Todd?

Maybe Walt himself? "Remember my name!" (But I doubt it).

I don't think it's Walt Jr though.

TotemPole Tue 17-Sep-13 19:15:56

I felt so sorry for Jesse. He's always been out of his depth throughout this.

What does the ASAC stand for?

TotemPole Tue 17-Sep-13 19:19:33

That was Hanks job title

breakingbadaddict Tue 17-Sep-13 19:25:28

Assistant Special Agent in Charge

BOF Tue 17-Sep-13 19:45:11

That phone call was absolutely heartbreaking. All of it was.

I loved the comic touch too of Walt rolling the barrel of money past his old trousers- it was poignant too, in its symbolism of Sisyphus pointlessly rolling his boulder to the top of the hill only to have it roll down again and have him start all over again. Walt is rolling his barrel of money over old ground too, the way he always has: every time he thinks he has everything, events conspire against him, and he has to commit ever more heinous acts to protect his efforts.

AlannaPartridge Tue 17-Sep-13 20:19:00

Loved the music they played at that point too....."Times are getting hard boys". I only have $11m left!

Cybercat Tue 17-Sep-13 20:34:41

Dammit, I read the spoilers and have caught up on the episode and I still missed the damn trousers, the teddy bear too! I'm jus not observant enough!

BOF Tue 17-Sep-13 21:15:59

I've had to turn Under The Dome on just to pretend Hank is still with us...

AlannaPartridge Tue 17-Sep-13 21:43:40

This should make you feel better BB should have ended.

(Doesn't really contain any spoilers).

BOF Tue 17-Sep-13 21:53:17

Hehe- I've seen that. Don't you just love him?

thenightsky Tue 17-Sep-13 23:06:01

I've had to turn Under The Dome on just to pretend Hank is still with us...

ahahaha... just watched that awful episode and done exactly the same thing. What a relief to see Hank ok again grin

breakingbadaddict Wed 18-Sep-13 08:03:41

What's under the dome?

If youre looking for a happy ending, you might be interested in seeing this picture that Aaron Paul tweeted!

breakingbadaddict Wed 18-Sep-13 11:08:09

LOL! I saw that, how funny! Have you seen the outtakes on Youtube? It looks like they're all such good friends, its great to see. Aaron Paul is a great fan-friendly actor. I love all his posts on instagram. I hope he goes far, he's been cast in Ridley Scott's new movie hasn't he? The biblical one! Christian Bale is Moses!!

Elsiequadrille Wed 18-Sep-13 11:34:54

Jesse (the actor) seems lovely in real life. Will look out for him in the Ridley Scott movie

grin at the happy ending. Wondering how that's going to come about in just two episodes!

Patchouli Wed 18-Sep-13 20:42:18

Was avoiding looking here til I watched it last night.
I've probably been quiet all day where I've been trying to get my head around BB.

I think the best I'm hoping for is that Walt's getting that big gun to reclaim his money to pass on to his family. And in whatever happens there Jessie is set free and they go their separate ways.
I bet it's not going to be so happy though.
And, I bet there'll be some sort of little twist (like a shot of the ricin let somewhere....or something). Something that'll leave us with something to always wonder about.

I like what the actor who plays Walt Junior said: that "they all end up in a witness protection program - and that's when Malcolm In The Middle kicks in" grin

DisappointedHorse Wed 18-Sep-13 21:20:27

I wonder if the lottery ticket with his Tohajilee co-ordinates on will prove to be a winner!

Does he still have it?

AlannaPartridge Wed 18-Sep-13 21:29:55

I imagine it's still stuck on the fridge.

They are now the coordinates of Hank & Gomie's graves sad

We saw Walt take the lottery ticket from his wallet when he was telling the bad guys where to come for Jesse in the previous episode. I only remember this because I thought he'd leave it on the fridge and it would be lost in the fire of his house that we saw in the flash forward, meaning he'd lose track of where his fortune was buried, but I was wrong like I have been about everything!

Elsiequadrille Wed 18-Sep-13 22:56:18

I hope they don't leave us wondering, Patchouli.

fascicle Thu 19-Sep-13 09:43:53

Walt had my sympathy again when he tried desperately to negotiate for Hank's life. But then telling Jesse about Jane was such an incredibly cruel and malicious thing to do. Wasn't it enough that he was sending Jesse off for probable torture/death etc?

Walt's phone call to Skyler. Even though he's getting her off the hook to some extent, the scenario he paints is still one where she knew about his activities and did nothing. Presumably that still makes her culpable/complicit unless some sort of 'duress' argument can be successfully argued in her defence.

I'm wondering if that spider is going to make a reappearance along with Lydia. Todd is not as stupid as he previously seemed and is shaping up to be more of a sociopath than the rest of the sociopaths.

Cooroo Thu 19-Sep-13 22:53:18

Alanna thanks for reminding me of when the RV broke down - those were such innocent days, give or take the odd dead dealer. Walt and Jesse were in it together. Now look at them.

Meth Damon? Are you a fan of Jim and A.Ron by any chance? I love their nicknames especially the Uncles of Anarchy.

AlannaPartridge Thu 19-Sep-13 22:58:46

Think I pinched the "Meth Damon" name from either Digital Spy or the Guardian comments. Totally fits, though grin

Apparently the last two episodes are 15 minutes longer - so a full hour for us Netflixers.

TotemPole Sat 21-Sep-13 02:12:13

Take a look at the photos and reviews grin

Cooroo Sat 21-Sep-13 08:50:25

Thanks for the link Totempole!

StrangerintheNight Sat 21-Sep-13 15:34:20

Could never work out why Gus had such a full-time, hands-on role in that restaurant. I know he was a perfectionist but what about the other branches that he was presumably neglecting?

SinisterSal Sat 21-Sep-13 16:48:49

WHY did Walt say that to Jessie about Jane, just cruelty? He didn't have to hand him over to The Nazi Uncles to be tortured and killed either. Wasn't it only last week he was dithering about killing him, wanting it clean etc?
It makes no sense to me, didn't ring true.

Patchouli Sat 21-Sep-13 16:50:51

I think he's angry with Jesse for bringing Hank out to the desert.
He blames him for Hank's death.

fascicle Sat 21-Sep-13 17:12:35

Wasn't it only last week he was dithering about killing him, wanting it clean etc? It makes no sense to me, didn't ring true.

It didn't ring true to me either, but thinking about it, he said it after he sufferered losses to two of the most important things to him: family and money for the family. And he does have a tendency to blame other people for things.

As for Gus and his restaurant - maybe that one was his unofficial headquarters for non chicken related meetings (certainly seemed that way), and his professionalism all part of his cover/hiding in plain sight.

IfYouLoveSomebodyLetThemSleep Sat 21-Sep-13 18:08:46

Maybe that bit was a set up to something that happens in the next episode. Either that or he's hurting over Hank.

I think I'm going to leave the next episode and then watch the last 2 as a double bill. I don't think I could handle how good the next one will be and not have the ending straight away after.

It should be easy to avoid the internet for a week, right?

NigellasGuest Sat 21-Sep-13 19:07:42

I'd love to start watching this but I heard it's only on Sky - should i start by ordering DVDs of Series 1?

IfYouLoveSomebodyLetThemSleep Sat 21-Sep-13 19:12:04

It's on Netflix Nigella. It's only £5.99 a month and you get all of breaking bad, loads of other tv series and loads of films to watch as much as you want.
I promise I don't work for them, I just think it's really good!

NigellasGuest Sat 21-Sep-13 19:18:22

DD1 has been on and on at me to get Netflix for about a year!

Netflix is AMAZING. We're ditching our Sky subscription when we move house in a couple of weeks. £65 a month for Sky versus £5.99 a month for Netflix. No brainer.

sickofsocalledexperts Sat 21-Sep-13 19:39:58

Agree that Netflix is the best and cannot wait till Monday, for the penultimate ep.

Does anyone else find that their BB addiction has grown and grown with each series? Series 1 I was a bit meh, but now I am a total addict. I miss Gus Fring - things ran smoother when Gus was in charge, psychotic villain or not!

AlannaPartridge Sat 21-Sep-13 21:50:36

Nigella Yes, get Netflix - first month is free. But please, please stop reading this thread. BB is fantastic, but it's at it's most fantastic when you have no idea what's going to happen smile

sick It's possible that Gus will be in the new Better Call Saul show - the actor said he's interested, I believe. Would love to know more about him.

I expect that I'm the only person who didn't know these existed blush, but just before Season 2 aired they released 5 "minisodes" about 5 mins long giving extra glimpses into the characters lives. They are all really funny and worth a watch:

Good Cop, Bad Cop
Wedding Day
Marie's Confession
Break In

PomBearArmy Sat 21-Sep-13 22:35:16

DNR thread because I'm not fully caught up. Can someone tell me how up to date UK Netflix is?

I got USA Netflix because I wanted to watch this crappy show called Say yes to the dress, but the US one only goes halfway through Season Five.

I have gone through the whole show up to that point in a month. It's getting so grim now I can hardly bear it. Mike's death upset me, and the little boy on the dirtbike, and I hate Walter now. I'm literally going to carry on watching because I want to see him die!! (No, I'm not Skyler!)

AlannaPartridge Sat 21-Sep-13 22:39:47

It's uploading the brand new episodes about 12 hours after they air in the US, Pom.

So, right this second, every single BB episode is up.

PomBearArmy Sat 21-Sep-13 22:59:00

I actually got USA Netflix because I thought it would have them all! Great! My Sunday is planned smile

NigellasGuest Sat 21-Sep-13 23:09:02

so I got netflix after your advice and have watched Series 1 episodes 1-4 in a row. Tempted to go for the 5th now, I'm already addicted!!! but will vacate this thread due to not wanting to know what happens! Can't believe it just gets better!

AlannaPartridge Sat 21-Sep-13 23:17:29

envy at Nigella who still has all the really, really good stuff to come!

Enjoy smile

Pitmountainpony Sun 22-Sep-13 04:14:08

So how is it all going to end....Jessie has got to get all of Walter,s family surely? Walt survives with no money and no family.....all of it for naught. I went to a panel with the cast and creater Vince Gilligan who wrote the twlight and x files as a new writer, after season one, and they spoke about how the story has to morally conclude in a satisfying way...something like that so we have to see Walt suffer I guess for all he has done.....the cast and writers seemed like the nicest people...totally thrilled at the success of the show and excited by the buzz around was really touching somehow. Penultimate episode airs Sunday here.....we are even coming back from Disney early to see it!! So brilliant.

Cooroo Sun 22-Sep-13 08:16:53

If Jesse has been so warped he could kill Walt jr and baby Holly I will be very unhappy. I'd be ok with him killing Walt however.

AlannaPartridge Sun 22-Sep-13 09:33:04

I think the very, very last thing Jesse would ever do is hurt Walt Jr and Holly. No way. Every single disaster that's happened has been because of Jesse's reaction to people hurting/killing children.

PomBearArmy Sun 22-Sep-13 10:14:29

I agree. Walt at his worst could do that kind of thing to someone's family (and he did poison a child), but Jesse couldn't.

I've cancelled my plans for today so I can get up to date with the last few episodes! I can't understand why UK Netflix has them all but USA doesn't!

StrangerintheNight Sun 22-Sep-13 12:51:12

I reckon some kind of explosion's going to happen in the lab, either caused by Jesse to escape, or by Walt for revenge on the gang. There'd be symmetry with the pilot episode, and they've already teased it by having Uncle Jack refuse to wear a gas mask.

(Didn't look like Jesse was given a gas mask either, but let's not think about that...)

Elsiequadrille Sun 22-Sep-13 14:44:35

Agree. I can't see Jesse seeking retribution through Walt's family.

TotemPole Sun 22-Sep-13 15:00:51

I was wondering if Skylar and the children are put in some sort of witness protection after Walt's 'threatening' phone call and that's how the house ends up empty and run down.

PomBearArmy Sun 22-Sep-13 17:14:06

It was actually quite clever that Walt realised the police were listening in (of course they would be, he saw Walter Jnr call them) and he spoke in a way that made her seem like a total victim of his.

I read that the last two episodes will be 75 minutes each. I hope they will wrap all the loose ends up, BB seems very good at that anyway. I'm a bit nervous for Lydia; after the way Todd was looking at her, I hope they don't have a really nasty end planned for her...

PomBearArmy Sun 22-Sep-13 17:14:53

*I'm a bit dim, and I only realised after he left Holly in the fire engine that he was actually trying to protect them all!

StrangerintheNight Sun 22-Sep-13 18:24:32

I think it's 75 mins including many, many adverts, so don't get too excited PomBearArmy.

TotemPole Sun 22-Sep-13 18:32:45

I think I read it would be about 60 mins without the ads.

GatoradeMeBitch Sun 22-Sep-13 18:55:48

Still longer than usual though smile

Cooroo Sun 22-Sep-13 18:59:04

Me too Pombear! I think Jesse will use science to take out the lab, the non-health-and-safety-conscious Uncles of Anarchy and probably himself because life is no longer livable (especially if the nazis have harmed Brock and Andrea). The uber polite psycho Todd may survive in his protective gear. ("I'm sorry for your loss" - ugh!)

sickofsocalledexperts Sun 22-Sep-13 19:09:44

I didnt get why he was being so nasty on the phone either, am too dim for this prog!

Agree Jessie would never harm a child. What about Marie to kill Walt - Hank was her life.

I had a row with DH about how clever it was that I ended up liking Mike most of all (given his job, hitman to gangsters) but DH swore Mike only ever killed when he had no other choice.

TotemPole Sun 22-Sep-13 20:05:00

Maria trying to kill Walt is a good theory. She mentioned to her therapist that she'd been looking at poisons online. Hank's death could be what pushes her to do it. But she ends up poisoning the wrong person or herself.

AlannaPartridge Sun 22-Sep-13 21:54:45

Yeah - I can see Marie killing Walt as well & she'd also consider that she'd be doing Skyler & the children a favour too.

Why Walt went to get the ricin is a puzzler. Why do you need poison if you've got an M60 in your boot? Maybe it's all to do with Marie searching for an untraceable poison? Walt makes it easy for her?

And I love the idea of Jesse causing an explosion in the lab a la the pilot. It would show just show much he's learnt from Walt.

GatoradeMeBitch Sun 22-Sep-13 22:11:36

Have you all seen this? Walt 'singing' My Way. Such a brilliant video!

AlannaPartridge Sun 22-Sep-13 22:23:03

That is absolutely fantastic, Gatorade grin

<sad git alert> I got a bit of a lump in my throat watching that. I'm am sooooooooo going to miss this show sad

That's amazing Gatorade! Only 9 hours until DP is home and DD is in bed and we can watch today's episode...!

IfYouLoveSomebodyLetThemSleep Mon 23-Sep-13 14:00:51

Ok so I caved and watched the new one. I'm still at a loss to figuring out how it ends!

It does look as if Walt has got some of his evil energy back and will become Heisenburg again. God knows what he'll do though or how he'll get back. Is it bad that I still really want Walt to get away with everything? That phone call to Walt JR had me welling up. He's done so much to help his family and I know he's gone about it all the wrong way, but his heart is in the right place. I'm such an enabler!

I cried at the Jesse scene sad hope they don't hurt Brock but I doubt they will.

The last episode has got to come down to a showdown between Walt and Jesse, it started with them and it has to end that way IMO.

IfYouLoveSomebodyLetThemSleep Mon 23-Sep-13 14:16:29

Just put 2 and 2 together and realised that takes us up to the flash forward. That Ricin isn't going to kill all of uncle Jacks army, Walt must have something up his sleeve

Snowballed Mon 23-Sep-13 16:13:28

I feel for Jesse sad I think he will now side with Walt when he turns up to kill the Nazis & get his money back.

Have also seen an observation that ricin can be used to cure/treat cancer. That's maybe a bit far out even for BB though!

I think there may be some blood shed next week ;) but I do hope both Jesse & Walt survive

StrangerintheNight Mon 23-Sep-13 18:35:14

Have nothing to add re the latest episode. It's all too depressing.

For those who haven't seen, there's a Mythbusters Breaking Bad special on the Discovery channel featuring Vince Gilligan and Aaron Paul, which I'm hoping will cheer me up tonight.

DevlinMaccabee Mon 23-Sep-13 20:37:38

How close did poor Jesse come to escaping the nazis? Poor Andrea and Brock sad

I hope Lydia gets it next, when she turns down Meth Damon's advances, I cannot stand her.

GatoradeMeBitch Mon 23-Sep-13 21:44:21

What happened with poor Brock? I thought they would have shown him being kidnapped. Surely if he's left alone he will be take in to the care system so Jesse won't have to worry about him getting murdered?

The finale will be spoiled for me if the Lydia/Todd thing goes where I think it might. That would just be too grim, it would overshadow everything else. My guess is that she will be in danger from Todd, and Jesse manages to rescue her.

Cooroo Mon 23-Sep-13 22:06:20

Surely now Jesse will go out in a blaze of chemistry taking the uncles with him? And is Walt travelling all that way to kill Mr Grey Matter? That was grim watching. I was holding my breath for poor Jesse. How on earth did he lift up that hatch?

GatoradeMeBitch Mon 23-Sep-13 22:18:29

Surely there's not enough time next week for Gretchen and the other one to get murdered? That is something I would quite like to see though!

SinisterSal Mon 23-Sep-13 22:41:50

Lydia isn't much of a character, is she?

GatoradeMeBitch Mon 23-Sep-13 22:56:06

She could be better. I don't know why she is a bag of nerves, it doesn't seem logical that someone like that would get into such a high risk business - unless she started to fall apart over time. It also makes no sense that she is ruthless enough to order multiple murders, but she can't stand to see blood. I don't like the way the women on the show are all so weak and emotional. Lydia could have been an awesome ball-busting character.

Pitmountainpony Tue 24-Sep-13 00:12:01

Jesse has got to do something chemistry death related in the meth lab surely? As for Lydia- oh we so know she is going to get it- something connected to money-dying in a pile of money- or something.She is repulsive in her business like greedy thirst for making money at any Lydia has to go and she has to go in a way that makes us feel better because she is so horrible and a moral and sociopathic....walt will survive but for what kind of life.....

Pitmountainpony Tue 24-Sep-13 00:16:28

Pom bear- why would you not want a nasty end for Lydia- she is despicable and has no qualms about anyone meeting a nasty end so long as she is ok.....she is like a metaphor for all the disgusting greed of big business when it has no conscience.Let us not forget drugs are one of the biggest if illegal businesses in the world along with porn...both exploiting people and destroying lives/minds.
Bring on the nasty end for Lydia- there is no way a character that despicable can survive.As an audience we will be outraged.

AlannaPartridge Tue 24-Sep-13 05:37:00

I really have no clue what's going to happen but my predictions are:

1) Jesse makes it somehow
2) Walt never sees his kids again
3) He'll kill himself, but in some sort of sacrificial act
4) Jesse & Walt will somehow make their peace
5) After Walt is dead Jesse speaks to Walt Jr to tell him his father pleaded for Hank's life. Seeing the two "sons" together talking could be a good ending
6) I don't think the Schwartz's will show up again - I think they were a device to clue Walt in to the fact that Jesse is still alive & cooking blue meth. The ricin is not for them
7) Maybe there'll be some suggestion that Jesse becomes the new Heisenberg/Fring - but I hope not. I want a better future for him than that.

This is probably all complete crap. I am never right. Ever.

anon2013 Tue 24-Sep-13 08:27:38

Screaming in my head at the tv last night when Todd, you know sad sad sad sad

tobiasfunke Tue 24-Sep-13 08:52:22

The ricin maybe for Walt himself but I would love it for that Elliott and that Gretchen with her wispy voice and her pashminas.

Todd's not doing anything that Walt and Fring and Tuco didn't do. Killing people off who might be bad for business.His soft spot isn't Lydia it's Walt. Hence Skyler living to look shellshocked another day. I wonder if that isn't going to be his downfall as well. Trusting in good old Mr White.I also think there'll be some sort of phosphine gas type thing at the lab to neatly bookend beginning and end. Maybe Walt will take his gasmask off this time and let Jesse escape.

AlannaPartridge Tue 24-Sep-13 09:06:33

The bloke playing Todd is a really, really superb actor.

His smile when he listened to Jesse talk about how he (Todd) killed Drew Sharpe shock. Really chilling.

Aaaarrrgghhh this programme!

Had to really stop myself from feeling sorry for Walt when he was paying Mr Vaccuum guy to spend time with him. The way the writers make you feel for characters who have done horrendous things is incredible.

Loved that we didn't see Jesse do the hard part of escaping, actually lifting the barred door!

My heart almost stopped when we saw the masked men by Holly's crib.

There just feels like there's too much to wrap up in one final episode. I agree that we won't see Gretchen and her husband again. It was too clunky to reintroduce them again just to have Walt finish them off, much better that they are a plot device for him to do something else like be reenergised to reclaim his empire and all that he worked for.

fascicle Tue 24-Sep-13 09:48:55

4) Jesse & Walt will somehow make their peace

I can't see that happening. Jesse hated Walt before he knew Walt had watched Jane die and before Andrea's death, for which Walt is indirectly responsible - Walt has effectively played a part in the deaths of the two people Jesse loved. He was also close to Mike, directly and unnecessarily killed by Walt. And then there's the handing him over to Todd and co for torture, meth and death.

I think Walt will deal with the uncle's gang, leaving Jesse to deal with Walt, unless he dies from cancer first. Something will happen to Lydia, but will it be at the hands of Todd or Walt? If Walt finds out she's tried to eliminate the risk that is Skyler, Walt might orchestrate her end, witnessed by Todd, who might be forced to show some emotion.

Having said all that, who knows how it will end! The programme has always been good at not going down obvious routes.

anon2013 Tue 24-Sep-13 09:51:35

I did feel sorry for Walt as I'm on his side. He gave himself up until the Nazi boys. The Grey Matter bit tipped him over the edge, Walt's gone he's just Heisenberg now

I just hope they stop torturing Jesse. He's the real victim in all this imo. Meth Damon needs a good killing.

AlannaPartridge Tue 24-Sep-13 10:05:59

Yep, Fascile - really good points.

It's just that I think Walt will be desperate for Walt Jr not to spend the rest of his life believing he killed Hank - and the only person who can tell him that is Jesse.

Truce is a better word, maybe - perhaps because the Nazi's have Brock (and we don't know that yet) & Walt rescues him?

I'm stretching a bit, I know, but seriously.....fuck knows! grin

Deep down, I think I'm sentimentally invested in the Jesse/Walt relationship and I want it to all be OK in the end sad

GatoradeMeBitch Tue 24-Sep-13 13:03:02

PitMountain The majority of the characters in BB have been just as ruthless and mercenary, it's been a bit of a theme!

I wouldn't mind of Lydia got shot, but I would absolutely hate anything like a rape scene, it would make me switch off, and that's the last thing I want to do when such an amazing show is ending.

tobiasfunke Tue 24-Sep-13 13:50:07

I don't think the Nazis have Brock. They don't need him. All they need is for Jesse to realise that they will go and kill the poor boy any time he tries to run off again.

I like the Elliott and Gretchen bit as that is basically where all Walt's anger and resentment has always come from. One bad decision he made years ago. And as far as I know we still don't know why he walked away from Gretchen. Maybe we will find out.

Patchouli Tue 24-Sep-13 14:29:15

Saying about the Gus actor: I think it's a tribute to the writing of BB when you see the others in things like 'Revolution' (Gus) and 'Under the Dome' (Hank) and their performances don't even come close to what they can do with a great script.

GatoradeMeBitch Tue 24-Sep-13 17:17:48

Screenbid is auctioning off props from the show, including the hazmat suits, the cars, and even Tuco's grill!

anon2013 Tue 24-Sep-13 17:54:06

Yeah I've noticed that Dean Norris's (Hank) character in Under The Dome isn't as good.

TotemPole Tue 24-Sep-13 18:02:24

AlannaPartridge, I agree, I was thinking how good he was as I watched this episode. He's so polite and yet sinister. And when he pulled the(I assume) piece of fluff off Lydia's jacket in the diner, that was creepy.

sooperdooper Tue 24-Sep-13 22:53:32

Lydia is the one character I think is really poorly written and not believable, Gus would never have trusted someone so flakey

I think Walt will go back to kill the meth Nazis, but won't know Jesse is being kept hostage there, and so in the end poor Jesse is left trapped and we never know

The gang don't have Brock, they just want Jesse to know they will go back and kill him if he tries anything again

Poor Jesse sad

AlannaPartridge Tue 24-Sep-13 23:24:33

No, I don't think the gang have Brock either - but I am so convinced that it'll be Jesse who tells Walt Jr that Walt pleaded for Hank's life and for this to happen there has to be something that Walt does that causes a bit of a thaw between them. Saving Brock is all I can think of. Jesse certainly can't be bought with money & I don't think he cares enough about his own life.

Bryan Cranston reading his favourite piece of fanmail grin

Patchouli Tue 24-Sep-13 23:36:18

Oh sooperdooper, I hope it doesn't happen like that.

SideshoBob Wed 25-Sep-13 02:08:03

I'm not really sure Jesse would ever thaw to Walt regardless of what he does now. Let's not forget he's only in this situation because of Walt, and the Nazi's wouldn't even have known about Andrea had Walt not used her to try and lure Jesse out in the open.

BOF Wed 25-Sep-13 02:40:18

If anybody also watches the camp nonsense that is Downton Abbey, you'll enjoy this wink.

Cooroo Wed 25-Sep-13 06:30:33

Nice link BOF - could have done without shrieking audience though!

Patchouli Sun 29-Sep-13 20:39:23

I'm almost dreading watching it tomorrow.

MeanAndMeaslyMiddleAges Sun 29-Sep-13 20:41:36

I think that at the end we'll discover none of it was real and it was all just a plot to get Jesse to learn chemistry.

LivingIsEasyWithEyesClosed Mon 30-Sep-13 10:40:39

just watched the last episode.

I'm gutted it's finished!

wintertimeisfun Mon 30-Sep-13 11:11:39

OMFG fantastic final episode. everything was covered, one of the best bits for me was when lydia was told she was dying of ricin. so pleased jesse and walt (kind of) made peace. truly fantastic programme, will watch it again later, without the cushion to my face this time..

Elsiequadrille Mon 30-Sep-13 12:51:52

It was just perfect and so well done.

I too liked the part where Walt spoke to Lydia about the ricin. I think it was obvious what he had done as it looked like he was going to do similar to her a season or so ago (I think).

BummyMummy77 Mon 30-Sep-13 13:44:56

Wow. Loved it. Glad it wasn't a Sopranos ending.

GatoradeMeBitch Mon 30-Sep-13 13:49:57

I loved it too, it was a happy ending in a funny way - the 'goodies' survived, the 'baddies' died, all loose ends tied up.

I hope Jesse appears in the Saul Goodman spin-off!

IfYouLoveSomebodyLetThemSleep Mon 30-Sep-13 13:54:45

I loved it! Very clever of Walt to tie all the loose ends up like that, and I loved that last look between him and Jesse. I know it's not real but I'm worried about the future for Jesse, he has no money and the police are after him. I would have liked to have seen him escape with a trunkful of cash ideally.

Now that's over what on earth am I going to watch now?!

KatyTheCleaningLady Mon 30-Sep-13 13:56:28

I love that Jesse lives, and that he got to kill todd.

and that Walt took a bullet for him.

AlannaPartridge Mon 30-Sep-13 14:41:18


I suspect the missing $80m is going to show up in Better Call Saul.

Hope Jesse finds some happiness at last.

Loved the blue glow around Walt as he died - and I loved that he admitted to Skylar that, really, he'd done it all for himself.

Will miss this show more than I can say sad

wintertimeisfun Mon 30-Sep-13 14:42:39

ifyou correct me if i am wrong but jesse drove in in walts are? if so, thre was a load of walts money in the boot! :0)

wintertimeisfun Mon 30-Sep-13 14:44:15

jesse drove off in walts car that is what i was supposed to have typed. blimey, i have really lost it. can't get the episode out of my head which i saw at 9:15am, even dh said it has stayed with him all day so much so, that he wants to watch it again with me later. i won't say no to that :-D

IfYouLoveSomebodyLetThemSleep Mon 30-Sep-13 14:58:25

I thought Walts car was wrecked from the amount of bullets that came flying out if it, and Jesse went to a different car? Plus didn't Walt give everything to Gretchen and Elliot? Or have I missed something?

IfYouLoveSomebodyLetThemSleep Mon 30-Sep-13 15:00:09

Can't blame you winter, it was a corker!
I've got to watch it from series 2 with DP. He sorely regrets not believing me how good it is when I told him months ago and wants to catch up now!

wintertimeisfun Mon 30-Sep-13 15:07:41

if you are right, jesse couldn't have driven off in walts car. if jesse wasn't in the loop/after by the police as only hanks mrs knew he was involved, then he can go back to his home and his own money i would have thought? it would be fb' if skinny p/jesse/badger could be in sault's spin off. i LOVED it when bloody badger and skinny pete jumped into walt's car and then hand in the lazer pens. a true moment of utter genius :0)

KatyTheCleaningLady Mon 30-Sep-13 15:16:39

I was so happy to say goodbye to Badger and skinny Pete.

Loved them.

jesse drove off in some other car.

Vivacia Mon 30-Sep-13 17:54:53

Walt didn't have any money left, he spent it on the gun and ammo.

Jesse becomes a carpenter, according to the foreshadowing in my opinion.

noddyholder Mon 30-Sep-13 17:57:13

genius smile

SideshoBob Mon 30-Sep-13 18:29:42

I presume the car Jesse drove off in was Todd's (seeing as he took some keys out of his pocket to unlock his chains).

Pitmountainpony Mon 30-Sep-13 18:45:09

Loved it...jesse is going straight to Brock surely?
I think the carpenter vision was just a vision of how different his life and so by extension any of our lives(Walt/Mike etc) could have been if he had made different choices- somewhere in the first season Jesse talks of he always wanted to be a carpenter when Walt asks just underlining how much you give up by making bad choices which of course anything where you are screwing people over and it is one of the worst choices a human can make for their life, leaving out the murders that went down too.

Amazing writing- even though Walt deserves no sympathy, we are sympathetic to him to the end.
Shakesperean the whole show and sublime and the best thing on tv since Sopranoes- I would say the two are equally amazing.
So sad it is over.

GatoradeMeBitch Mon 30-Sep-13 19:18:32

In Jesse's Narcotics Anonymous group he said making that wooden box was the proudest moment of his life, so he was looking back to it as a positive memory. I hope Jesse does help Brock, though the boy could be in adoptive services by that time.

Maybe we'll catch up with him again on Saul's show, though actually I hope not. It would be nicer to think he just goes off to live a quiet lawful life!

TotemPole Mon 30-Sep-13 20:46:52

I read that the Saul spin off is a prequel, so Jesse wouldn't be in it, but there would be scope for Gus to be.

I loved the scene where he tells them he's hired the best hit men in the west and then you see them get in the car grin

Charotte31 Mon 30-Sep-13 20:52:08

Wow what an ending! Amazing writing. Gutted its all over! RIP Walt!

GatoradeMeBitch Mon 30-Sep-13 21:34:36

Ooh Totem maybe we'll see more Mike too? smile

I've never had an older man crush in my life, and now I have a much-older man crush - sticky out ears and all!

Cooroo Mon 30-Sep-13 22:09:41

Sticky out ears Gatorade? I hope you don't mean Elliot?!

What a great ending. Very satisfying especially using badger and SP, also Jesse getting to kill the loathsome Todd. Touching farewells to Skyler and Jesse, a look was as much as we were going to get.

GatoradeMeBitch Mon 30-Sep-13 22:17:03

No! Mike had sticky out ears, at the tops anyway.

WillColbert Mon 30-Sep-13 22:20:03

I love the show and think the final episode was just right. I'm now watching 'Talking Bad' on Netflix because I'm not ready to let go just yet!

Cooroo Mon 30-Sep-13 22:24:02

Lol Gator I knew who you meant really. A bit torn between the ridiculously old and the indecently young here.

DevlinMaccabee Mon 30-Sep-13 23:27:05

Brilliant episode, shame it's all over.

Skinny Pete and Badger - utter genius!

The machine gun from the boot was awesome, was not expecting that at all.

KatyTheCleaningLady Tue 01-Oct-13 07:12:01

It's been noted that the episode title, "Felina" is an anagram of "finale". But it's also the name of the girl in the Marty Robbins song "El Paso" that plays when Walter gets the car started.

The song is sung by a cowboy trying to get back to his girl, but he's been shot and is dying in the saddle and he hopes to hang on long enough to die in Felina's arms.

Listmaker Tue 01-Oct-13 08:28:27

Late to this thread as I have spent the last couple of weeks watching all 5 seasons on Netflix (I have a broken heel bone so am pretty much bed-bound!). I have absolutely loved it and like Willcolbert I've turned to Talking Bad because I can't bear to leave the BB world yet.

In fact I'm thinking of just re-watching the whole lot. It is too good to just watch once........

TotemPole Tue 01-Oct-13 08:46:24

Katy it's also been suggested

Fe (Iron) Li(Lithium) Na(Sodium) ... blood, meth and tears.

KatyTheCleaningLady Tue 01-Oct-13 08:52:24

Yeah! I don't think Walt used lithium, but it's apparently very commonly used.

noddyholder Tue 01-Oct-13 08:52:48

yes totem I think that was the intention too. So well crafted don't think this series can be matched Some TV execs need to take a good look at the crap they churn out

tobiasfunke Tue 01-Oct-13 08:55:03

The Better call Saul thing is a prequel I think which means no Walt but possibly a bit of Jesse and maybe Mike. I think they all used Saul before Walt turned up.

I have to say I wasn't happy with the ending at all. I liked the bit with Gretchen and Elliot but the whole machine gun in the car thing was a bit stupid. I also thought the scene with Jesse and Walt was a bit short after all the interminable angsting they'd done in previous series.

I really felt that Walt got off far too lightly but then personally I was in the Walt is evil camp. I wish Jesse had told him the result of him handing Jesse to be tortured by the gang resulted in Andrea being killed and Brock orphaned. The whole idea that Walt somehow redeemed himself at the end by making everything right for people pissed me right off.
Marie's life is ruined, his family's life is ruined even with the money. Jesse's life is ruined - Marie knows what he did and will have told the DEA. His fingerprints and DNA are all over the scene with the gang members including the chain to strangle Todd and the meth lab. There isn't really a happy ending for him. He hasn't any money left. However a spin off with Jesse coming back to look for the 80 million - maybe that's Vince Gilligan's banker for his retirement fund.

Elsiequadrille Tue 01-Oct-13 10:46:39

You're right about Jesse, Tobias. And I got the impression he was going to disappear rather than attempt any return to his old life.

Yes, Call Saul would have to be a prequel

Raahh Tue 01-Oct-13 11:06:56

I have loved watching Breaking Bad- and thought the ending was great. I'll admit, I watched the first couple of episodes with a catsbumface, whilst dh told me it was going to be great. I hate it when he is right. grin. I thought the the finale got it just right, really. It was so well written- Walter White is one of the most brilliantly crafted characters I have seen in a drama.

Some clever touches, and the right balance of humour, and sadness. When he was saying goodbye to Holly, I wanted to cry.

I don't know if anyone has seen this
If 'Breaking Bad' took place on Facebook'

They recap the last half series- it's very funny (and worth looking up the one's they do for Game of Thrones and Mad Men as well).

It seemed such a long wait between the first half of this season to July- I can't believe it is now over. sad

Patchouli Tue 01-Oct-13 14:07:15

Great end.

Thanks for the Felina info: interesting.

I'm glad Jesse killed Todd.

ReviewsOffers Tue 01-Oct-13 20:46:44

What was the significance of the watch?

I dunno. I was dissatisfied with the ending. Too pat. Everything happened too easily - like how did he get into Skyler's house? Surely it was watched. How did he locate those two meth heads so easily, and rig up a machine gun magic attack. In an evening?

the beauty of the show was the psychological study, watching someone become corrupt by degrees.

i did enjoy the nods to classic Western motifs all throughout. Well done, not in your face.

Raahh Tue 01-Oct-13 20:56:09

Apparently the watch was a present from Jesse, for his 51st birthday- this episode featured his 52nd. (dh remembered that, not me). Maybe removing the watch was severing a connection to Jesse? Might be over-thinking it.grin

Raahh Tue 01-Oct-13 20:59:18

but I have just read something from 'Talking bad' that suggests the watch went for continuity purposes, as Walt isn't wearing it during flash forward bits.

But that's not so interestinggrin

ReviewsOffers Tue 01-Oct-13 21:02:32

Ah. Now that's what I call a spoiler!

Raahh Tue 01-Oct-13 21:03:31

eh? The whole thread contains spoilers.

ReviewsOffers Tue 01-Oct-13 21:13:17

Oh i know I just mean such a prosaic reason spoils the mystique...

Raahh Tue 01-Oct-13 21:44:37

grinI suppose it does . I'll stick with the 'metaphorically distancing himself from jesse' theory.


The whole 5 series set to a parody of REM's 'End of the World..'

Raahh Tue 01-Oct-13 21:50:44

And during the REM parody- look out for the nod to 'malcolm in the middle' grin

(it took me THREE SERIES to realise who Bryan Cranston was!)


thenightsky Tue 01-Oct-13 23:00:55

OMG. Finally watched the last 2 episodes.

I don't see how else they could have wrapped it up really. Apart from Jesse leaving with some money.

WillColbert Tue 01-Oct-13 23:12:09

Thanks for the REM link Raahh - great stuff!

StrangerintheNight Wed 02-Oct-13 12:43:07

Phew, finally feel I can get Breaking Bad out of my head now. They could have 'finished' with either of the previous two episodes, which arguably would have made a more dramatically interesting conclusion, but it's nice they took pity on their fans and gave us some closure.

The writers clearly had way too much left to do, and seemed to really struggle to work the story back to the flash forward moment in the diner, but the fact I can now sleep at night without worrying about the characters is a big thumbs up from me.

ReviewsOffers Wed 02-Oct-13 14:52:10

Liked that link Raah

But when you see it all laid out like that there were a lot of gruesome deaths. No wonder I watched most of it through my fingers

But I think the most shocking was when Hank was defying the Nazi uncle to shoot him. and he did, in the middle of a sentence, poor Hank was murdered with as much ceremony as you might swat a fly

Cooroo Wed 02-Oct-13 23:40:09

DP and I watched the pilot again tonight - I'd forgotten or missed so much. And Jesse looked so young and full of life.

BOF Thu 03-Oct-13 08:24:44

Watch gone= he knows his time's up?

If Jesse took Todd's car, I hope there was a wad of cash in the gove compartment...

moreyear Sun 13-Oct-13 01:27:57

I finished Breaking Bad yesterday and I still feel drained and maudlin today. The scene where Walt said goodbye to Holly was just so unbearably sad.

I can't believe it is over - truly part of the 'Golden Age of Television'.

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