SOUTHCLIFFE

(162 Posts)
Blondeshavemorefun Sun 04-Aug-13 21:18:27

anyone watching?

I miss les revs sad do need something on at 9pm on a Sunday

VivaLeBeaver Sun 04-Aug-13 21:19:46

Me.

Not liking it as much as Revs yet.

What happened to the lady who was shot at the start? I'm confused.

Fairylea Sun 04-Aug-13 21:21:08

This is all pre shooting isn't it?

I'm bored already.

VivaLeBeaver Sun 04-Aug-13 21:22:26

Ok.

So we started with the shooting and then gone back to what happened previously. Yes, it's all a bit slow.

coffeeinbed Sun 04-Aug-13 21:24:24

another one trying to find something instead les revs.
not too sure about it so far.

Fairylea Sun 04-Aug-13 21:25:25

I've given up. No patience!

Sleepyhoglet Sun 04-Aug-13 21:28:43

Oh my god it is boring. This was meant to take my mind off personal situation. Not helping.

Sleepyhoglet Sun 04-Aug-13 21:29:05

And what's with the sort of dreary filter it has been filmed through. Not sure of technical terms!

NotSuchASmugMarriedNow Sun 04-Aug-13 21:31:12

jesus, whats with the mumbling! can't understand what their saying

youarewinning Sun 04-Aug-13 21:35:55

I am - thought I would watch it and then watch law and order on +1.

Wish I'd just gone straight to L&A!

extracrunchy Sun 04-Aug-13 21:37:20

BLAH.... DH wants to stick with it. I want to put Pretty Woman on.

thenightsky Sun 04-Aug-13 21:37:43

I'm gonna stick with it for a while yet. Mr Beard is mega-mumbly though.

VenusStarr Sun 04-Aug-13 21:45:19

It's not the returned is it? sad slow, boring and dull. Have heard that it gets better, will see how I feel next week, not sure I can be bothered to watch the last 15minutes

Alconleigh Sun 04-Aug-13 21:47:40

Is the killer the terrifying rapist father from the This is England series?

Alconleigh Sun 04-Aug-13 21:50:31

No, too young

Notsoblonde Sun 04-Aug-13 21:51:01

I don't know what happening confused

Blondeshavemorefun Sun 04-Aug-13 21:55:42

I'm slightly behind as started late but whizz ing through ads smile

Think it's all happened but we are seeing it happen

extracrunchy Sun 04-Aug-13 21:59:16

Bit horrid now

Sleepyhoglet Sun 04-Aug-13 22:01:51

I have been mumsnet ting whilst watching and have no idea of the plot. Anyone care to summarise?

Notsoblonde Sun 04-Aug-13 22:04:23

Not sure if I will watch it tomorrow, don't know what the soldier bit in the woods was for, but the rest I get it now, was all the events leading up to him starting to shoot people sad

CharlotteBronteSaurus Sun 04-Aug-13 22:04:34

about to watch on +1

i don't think that's a dreary filter BTW, I think it's just the colour of North Kent
<Medway escapee>

OhTinky Sun 04-Aug-13 22:06:23

It's no Broadchurch. Turned off after 15mins was quite bleak and I had no idea what was happening!

janesnowdon1 Sun 04-Aug-13 22:10:47

Very dull and slow agree about the mumbling. Not sure I'll stick with this.

Blondeshavemorefun Sun 04-Aug-13 22:40:40

Hmmmmm

Not sure whether to watch tomorrow

Blondes dithers

perplexedpirate Sun 04-Aug-13 22:45:52

Not gripping in the least. I don't care what happens to any of them.
I too miss Les Revs. What with that and Peter Capaldi, tonight has been a bust.

Blondeshavemorefun Sun 04-Aug-13 23:23:17

So basically the soldier got bullied and he's taking his revenge/flipped and shooting people

PanicMode Mon 05-Aug-13 05:57:46

Glad it wasn't just me - gave up after the first half. Total yawnfest.

twofingerstoGideon Mon 05-Aug-13 10:27:18

YY about the mumbling. Who was the guy in the hospital bed? Couldn't understand a damned word he was saying!

OctopusPete8 Mon 05-Aug-13 12:23:37

Aw I enjoyed it , What the 2 army blokes did to him was awful, I started off liking dempsey, now I can't wait for him n' cockney bloke to get there comeuppance blush

the poorly mum was a good touch,

I'm watching tonight, When I first saw it advertised I thought it was a re-telling of a crime that happened a bit back, not fictional ..

Blondeshavemorefun Mon 05-Aug-13 13:18:29

Thought the bloke in the hospital was the one who was doing the army exercise with him and hurt his knee?

twofingerstoGideon Mon 05-Aug-13 16:56:59

Not that bloke! The one in the bed, who died after being moved??

susiedaisy Mon 05-Aug-13 20:34:35

Just watching the first one now agree with other poster who said its filmed through a dreary filter depressing!

Mrsrobertduvall Mon 05-Aug-13 21:07:20

I am giving it another go.
Not a bundle of laughs.

Dumpylump Mon 05-Aug-13 21:10:00

Going to watch it on +1, but was struggling to stay awake last night. It's not been exactly pacey so far......

Alconleigh Mon 05-Aug-13 21:28:37

it's a lot more engaging tonight, I think.

I didn't see it last night. Ok so far tonight I think. Is there anything I need to know about last night's episode? Sounds like it's as well I missed it!!

BeaWheesht Mon 05-Aug-13 21:43:47

Who is the bar manager shagging?

I am losing interest rapidly in the whole thing tbh

susiedaisy Mon 05-Aug-13 21:55:50

That Paul is horrible and bearded man is ugly!!

JambalayaCodfishPie Mon 05-Aug-13 21:56:58

Bored.

All the time-jumping is annoying me.

cerealqueen Mon 05-Aug-13 22:00:57

I think it is very good so far.

susiedaisy Mon 05-Aug-13 22:02:37

Is this the last episode?

canutesauntie Mon 05-Aug-13 22:05:39

Theres more of it? Thought it was only going to be a two part thing.
The time shifting rather detracts I think, you can't break off to look at mumsnet and still know whats going on!

cerealqueen Mon 05-Aug-13 22:05:55

2/4, on again next Sunday.

susiedaisy Mon 05-Aug-13 22:15:34

Thanks

SinisterBuggyMonth Mon 05-Aug-13 22:33:09

Same people that did Red Riding, I struggled with that.

I seriously miss Les Revs too.

Alconleigh Mon 05-Aug-13 22:56:52

Well obvs it's no Les Revs...distinct lack of Olympic standard male totty for a start, but it got to me enough tonight that I will see it through, I think.
<goes off into 43rd reve of her own about Simon and Serge>

LauraPashley Mon 05-Aug-13 23:01:16

It improved marginally tonight I thought...only just. Yawn so far. And news reporter and bar man are both smuggity smug creepity creep. AIBU to find myself wishing at least one of them had been shot?

eddiemairswife Mon 05-Aug-13 23:08:18

Is it my imagination or do a lot of the men look the same - 30 to 40ish, clean-shaven, baldish? By the time I've worked who is who, and whether the action is before or after the shooting it's moved on to the next scene. And the mumbling, oh the mumbling. However I sha'n't give up, I shall regard it as this month's challenge!

sonlypuppyfat Mon 05-Aug-13 23:17:32

I am watching it without blinking and I still am non the wiser

susiedaisy Mon 05-Aug-13 23:31:38

I got the character Paul who's wife and kids died muddled up with the reporter for most of the first two episodes! I miss Revs as wellhmm

Blondeshavemorefun Tue 06-Aug-13 10:49:13

We all miss revs sad

Thought this may hit the Sunday 9pm spot - but seems sadly not.

On again next Sunday and maybe Sunday after that on the 18th we will get a good tv programme

Tbh Sunday night tv is crap (apart from sexter dexter)

waikikamookau Tue 06-Aug-13 18:17:30

blush
what is les revs??

I enjoyed it,

waikikamookau Tue 06-Aug-13 18:17:56

southcliffe, I enjoyed I mean.

susiedaisy Tue 06-Aug-13 18:33:31

Les revs is the series The Returned that has just finished on channel 4 it was French and very good!! There is a thread about it on telly addicts.

Blondeshavemorefun Tue 06-Aug-13 18:38:21

Mookau - the past 2mths many mn'ers have been glued to the returned

Absolutely fab. Thrilling yet puzzling - French so all subtitled but just means you actually watch it rather then mn and watch tv like I'm doing now aka watching eastenders

Have a look on demand or 4player

mystaplerisevil Tue 06-Aug-13 18:41:03

was hoping the returned would have more of an ending to be honest.

i quite like southcliffe so far, it's a bit gritty but as least it isn't bleeding zombies

Blondeshavemorefun Tue 06-Aug-13 18:45:02

We will have to wait till autumn 2014

Having trouble getting into last nights episode of SOUTHCLIFFE

waikikamookau Tue 06-Aug-13 19:57:01

thanks, I will look on OD

smokinaces Tue 06-Aug-13 20:56:53

I'm watching last nights now. I quite like the suspense, but dont like the idea behind it - its far to close to a story which was in the news a few years back and I do hate guns and stuff.

Was this filmed in north Kent then??

smokinaces Tue 06-Aug-13 20:58:51

The time jumping is thoroughly confusing me. Woman who was helping his mum is now working in an office and having ivf? And Stephen now a handy man for a family?

If they had "3 years previous" or something flash up it would bloody help!!!

EeTraceyluv Tue 06-Aug-13 21:12:34

I enjoyed it! It is a bit confusing and they do all look the same but I think it will pace up next week.

NaturalBlondeYeahRight Tue 06-Aug-13 22:37:01

Just catching up after sky plussing. Well this is cheery isn't it? Quite enjoyed it after the slow start. I get the impression that it only jumps back and forth over a few days.

It's filmed in and around Faversham. Wouldn't go jogging on those marshes on my own!

HootShoot Wed 07-Aug-13 07:30:49

I don't think it was time jumping that much smokinaces. Woman helping mum is a social worker so spends somd time in the office and some out and about. Stephen doesn't claim benefits he is entitled to but does odd jobs for cash. I think we are seeing what happened just before the shootings - what made him snap. It's handy he was beaten up as the cuts to his face show whether it's pre or post shooting!

smokinaces Wed 07-Aug-13 11:45:52

HootShoot, I got that towards the end! I thought it seemed loads of jumping but when i actually sat and watched it it wasnt that bad. Talk about karma hitting that Paul though - treated his wife like shit and then she was murdered.

I'm quite looking forward to nexts weeks now.

HootShoot Wed 07-Aug-13 11:54:36

And horrible punishment for the army guy to when his girlfriend was shot in front of him. I found it depressing to watch but really gripping at the same time! I'm looking forward to it too!

smokinaces Wed 07-Aug-13 12:06:46

That was awful. I think army guy was more shocked and upset that he wasnt shot too. To kill his wife and not harm him was far far worse punishment wasnt it?

The suspense I like. The not knowing who will be shot or survive. I felt awful for the social worker, as her daughter was shot - though some were wounded not killed so part of me hopes she survives next week.

It was very depressing, mainly as it could (and has before) come true. How horrifying :-(

Blondeshavemorefun Wed 07-Aug-13 12:41:56

I agree the time travelling is confusing - fab idea about cut face - so simple lol

Even simpler would be to have on screen 2 days before etc

The revs did this ...........

'Blondes sighs' I soooooo miss the revs sad

Alconleigh Sun 11-Aug-13 21:06:00

The opening tonight, Shirley Henderson, has made me cry. I am a bit hormonal mind you.

BeaWheesht Sun 11-Aug-13 21:43:11

Am seriously confused

flatmum Sun 11-Aug-13 21:49:43

why am I watching this?

Blondeshavemorefun Sun 11-Aug-13 21:52:24

Hmmmmm. Still puzzled with back and forth

Wonder what will happen tomorrow and the end

Alconleigh Sun 11-Aug-13 21:52:45

I think it's very moving. Although his pub rant was implausible.

Jenda Sun 11-Aug-13 21:54:22

I feel like I should watch this to the end tomorrow but its so weird and dreary!

NaturalBlondeYeahRight Sun 11-Aug-13 21:58:19

Was that his niece he tried to kill? shock
I think I might have to record this and watch again.

OctopusPete8 Sun 11-Aug-13 22:03:49

GET OFF THE RAILWAY!!!

Jenda Sun 11-Aug-13 22:04:19

hmm. he's a good actor, the one who's wife and kids died

Alconleigh Sun 11-Aug-13 22:06:22

He didn't try to kill her; he was trying to reconnect with his family, with the only child left close to him. The scene earlier when his wife lay down on the track in the same place, and he rescued her, was showing that they used to go there. Although he was so obviously a saviour in that scene that I think it was a dream or distorted version. They are all haunted, of course, hence Eddie Marsan's habitual "she's out early", in the split second before he woke properly and remembered.

OctopusPete8 Sun 11-Aug-13 22:11:25

I think this drama is astounding it really is.

I'm not entirely sure it was totally implausible, the town essentially drove him out and blamed his late dad for something he didn't do.

the news broadcast was great.

Alconleigh Sun 11-Aug-13 22:15:48

You could be right Octopus. He fought going back, he knew there was so much anger in him at what happened to his father that he could not be impartial or professional.

Alconleigh Sun 11-Aug-13 22:17:50

I also like the fact that Paul (?) whose family died was a cheating weasel. Not everyone touched by tragedy is sainted and blameless (although obviously he is blameless in their deaths)

Darkesteyes Sun 11-Aug-13 22:38:26

Agree Alcon about the sainted blameless comment.
The acting in this is compelling and top notch. Its a harrowing watch.
And its very plausible.

OctopusPete8 Mon 12-Aug-13 08:53:48

I thought that was v. good too a lot of his 'romantic moments' were her saying all her dreams and him being like 'nah not for me'.
She was a bit crackers wasn't she? blackmailing him to say he loved her, I thought maybe both are baddun's' here in an emotional fuckwit way.
And trying it on with his sis in law shock

Whats that wierd music thing at the begining?

EeTraceyluv Mon 12-Aug-13 09:48:35

I'm not usually confused but I really couldn't get into it again last night. Maybe I need answers more quickly!

mizu Mon 12-Aug-13 09:50:00

Hormonal at mo and found this hard to watch last night. Was in tears when Paul was singing by the motorway bridge.

Will sound stupid but Rory Kinnear IS Roy Kinnear's son, yes? Looks so much like him.

waikikamookau Mon 12-Aug-13 09:58:24

yes he is Roy's son.

I love Greg Kinnear personally grin

waikikamookau Mon 12-Aug-13 09:59:08

the two army blokes, man whose wife was shot, and his uncle, will have to get outed for their involvement.

waikikamookau Mon 12-Aug-13 09:59:38

and he told the social worker he was tired, and her reply, I'm tired too, and she missed his call.
thus her daughter gets killed.

waikikamookau Mon 12-Aug-13 09:59:52

so perhaps the killings weren't random

juneau Mon 12-Aug-13 10:10:13

I'm not really enjoying this. I've watched it so far and will watch the last one, but I don't warm to any of the characters (in fact, I actively dislike most of them), and it just seems rather cold and unemotional. I'm not drawn in IYKWIM? That funeral of the wife that was being cheated on that was like a wedding managed to be both tasteless and gruesome IMO.

serengetty Mon 12-Aug-13 10:15:35

Eddie Marsan was fab. Amazing tv.

Compelling but painful to watch sometimes. The acting is superb - the actor playing 'Paul' is amazing, you just want to punch him angry! And the bit where Rory Kinnear's character went 'off script' on live tv was utterly believable.

Shame Sean Harris wasn't on screen last night, he's such a subtle, powerful actor.

DumSpiroSpero Mon 12-Aug-13 10:26:41

I think last night's episode was really interesting in showing all the different and very bizarre ways people deal with grief.

Desperate to know what went on with the journo's dad.

Also seems odd that they have completely glossed over more than half of the victims so far?

waikikamookau Mon 12-Aug-13 10:27:45

the journos dad was blamed for people dying but he died, confused about this.

DumSpiroSpero Mon 12-Aug-13 10:31:08

We don't know what the journo's dad actually did though do we or have I missed something?

Was he may

waikikamookau Mon 12-Aug-13 10:36:21

I can't remember what journos dad did but he got the blame

OctopusPete8 Mon 12-Aug-13 11:31:32

the factory he worked at, the managment cut corners and a fault in the powerline blew up or something, he died, but was blamed too.

WasabiMonster Mon 12-Aug-13 11:54:50

I'm finding the series compelling and very atmospheric. I found it difficult and upsetting to watch in parts last night, the father seeing his daughter in the morgue for example. The guy who plays the father, I forget his name, is a wonderful actor.

eddiemairswife Mon 12-Aug-13 11:55:46

I'm still getting confused by the flashbacks. Were the boys in the boat David and Steven as children? I also didn't realise that the couple on the railway were Paul and his wife as teenagers. Perhaps I need study-notes for TV dramas!

happybubblebrain Mon 12-Aug-13 12:10:39

I don't usually watch dramas like this, but I was drawn to this one because of the cast. I think it's very gripping and the acting couldn't be better. I cried my eyes out at the morgue scene.

waikikamookau Mon 12-Aug-13 12:13:06

yes I think they were david and steven , I think they were friends as they had both been made outcasts.

Blondeshavemorefun Mon 12-Aug-13 13:35:48

The flashbacks still puzzle me --I'm
Blonde-- wink

Didn't like the bloke singing by bridge at the end - assume he's gonna kill his self? sad

StepAwayFromTheEcclesCakes Mon 12-Aug-13 14:13:04

I was ok with the first one, bit lost on the second and last night had no idea what is going on anymore. Bits just don't fit for me, the soldier who was in bed as his partner was shot, was he not seen dead hanging out of the front door later on when the social worker went by to go to see the mum and found her shot too? its quite implausible to me that all this went on but the town carried on around it, there is no sign of panic or police cordens, surely 15 people shot the place would be in uproar.

quesadilla Mon 12-Aug-13 15:06:54

I watched only bits of last nights which has added to the inherent confusion so still don't know what the bloody hell is going on but I like the atmosphere and the tone of it iykwim.

It's very morbid and dark but compelling. Hopefully will understand it a bit better after next week's episode.

curlyclaz13 Mon 12-Aug-13 15:25:40

just watched the third part and am completely lost, the flashbacks and the men who all look the same have confused me. I will watch the last part to see if it makes sense then but I'm not hopeful.

Blondeshavemorefun Mon 12-Aug-13 18:10:44

OMFG

this thread is on discussion of the day

blondes preens herself

smile smile smile smile smile smile

gormenghast Mon 12-Aug-13 19:49:41

Having grown up in the countryside on a very remote farm, I find the portrayal of the murderer's circumstances so true. There is a lot of unseen social isolation in rural area and the poverty and loneliness of his situation serve to tip someone who is already on the edge of insanity into full blown psychosis.
I didn't know anyone who took up a gun and went on the rampage, but I did know, as did everyone in my area of men (it was always men) who became surly hostile hermits living lives of poverty in what townsfolk would describe as a rural idyll.
(sorry about semi colon. My comma has decides not to work.)

dexter73 Mon 12-Aug-13 20:14:00

The ex-policeman who met up with the reporter - was he saying that Steven (I think that is the name of the killer) is still alive and the police don't know where he is, but they don't want to admit it? I sort of missed that bit and only after started thinking about it.

Yes dexter - at least that was my understanding of it.

OctopusPete8 Mon 12-Aug-13 22:47:53

Thats an interesting twist,

ChristalTipps Tue 13-Aug-13 07:03:26

What is Les Revs?
Sorry don't live in UK, but can buy if on iTunes.
British TV keeps me sane.

diddl Tue 13-Aug-13 07:20:53

Wonder if the killings were connected?

If so, why Paul's wife & children?

Didn't get the wedding/funeral tbh.

Wouldn't really happen, would it-not in church?

Sorry, I mean I get why he did it, but it didn't work for me.

Paul owed Steven money (he was working as an odd-job man) & when he asked for it while doing another job at the pub Paul tried to say it was £75 not the £100 he'd been promised. Then Paul's wife spoke to Steven really dismissively.

I'm guessing these slights build into huge resentments shock

diddl Tue 13-Aug-13 10:33:59

Of course, thank you!

Yes-they were all dressed up for their baby's Christening, weren't they?

PuppyMonkey Tue 13-Aug-13 10:43:18

I keep wondering why we've not seen any of the aftermath of what happened to the soldier Chris - when he featured so prominently in the first episode and humiliated Steven the night before he went on rampage.

Where is Chris??? Is Steven really still alive??? Are they together????? confused

diddl Tue 13-Aug-13 11:18:00

Yes, he's not shooting people that have hurt him directly is he, but their partners/loved ones?

MisguidedAngel Tue 13-Aug-13 12:55:06

Somebody upthread asked about the music - it's the music they always used to play before the shipping forecast early in the morning - I think it's called Sailing By. In the last episode at least it is actually followed by the beginning of the shipping forecast.

Zigster Tue 13-Aug-13 13:58:58

The timeline of this is very confusing - someone is shot then, in the next scene, they're alive. Then, oh no, they're dead.

Other than that misguided (in my opinion) approach to the show, I'm really enjoying it. The latest episode is PVRed for tonight's viewing pleasure.

clangermum Tue 13-Aug-13 14:00:45

Sailing By - signals we're back on the morning of the killing doesn't it? At least that's how I read it, so you get that pre-warning. It's quite chilling, as it sort of stands for the idyllic

Didn't really get the relevance of the ex copper and conspiracy theory, whereas everything else seems to be tying in now by episode 3 - all the personal bits about those involved. Although if we don't follow up on soldier whose partner was killed in bed, that will feel odd

Ex copper did confirm the story about journo's father being framed, but then seemed to come off as a nutter, which weakened the father's story a bit.

Surely we don't have enough episodes left for his theory about the killer to be true?

clangermum Tue 13-Aug-13 14:05:29

Soldier's uncle (involved in beating Steven) spoke to journo in pub to say his soldier nephew would probably go back into combat didn't he? But can't remember what else he said. Just feels like we need to see the soldier, as that incident more than anything probably unhinged Steven, or at least it felt like the most significant in a long history of snubs and put-downs

eddiemairswife Tue 13-Aug-13 14:29:53

Next and final episode is a year later [Radio Times].

recall Tue 13-Aug-13 15:20:01

What is Les Revs ?

I want to watch it

listenwatchreadshare Tue 13-Aug-13 19:27:06

I find Sailing By depressing and slightly eerie because I associate it with a two year period of insomnia I went through, that feeling of being totally alone every night. Haven't watched Southcliffe beyond Episode 1 as I found the SAS thing a bit ludicrous, but wondering if I should give it another go.

clangermum Tue 13-Aug-13 19:34:39

I found it odd that Chris went ahead with what Steven told him was SAS selection training after Steven said the others weren't going to be there as something had come up and obviously he couldn't say what.

clangermum Tue 13-Aug-13 19:43:49

What I thought after the last episode is - who's to say what the right way to respond to death is? I found the wedding/funeral thing freaky but could see why he might have done it.

And the couple not wanting to see their daughter, but actually the dad does, so either he changed his mind or didn't want to say so originally when his wife was so adamant about not going. And taking pictures. It seemed weird but then who's to say.

harrietspy Wed 14-Aug-13 14:38:17

I think it's absolutely brilliant. I love the writing - not a cliche in sight. I love the cinematography. I love the way the story is unfolding in a non-linear way. I love the way it demands my full attention. Lots of complaints at the beginning of the thread about the pace, but I think the pacing is spot on. I love the way it refuses to move quickly. In the first episode when Stephen's frying eggs, we get to feel the monotony and repetition that's so much part of his life...

But I'll never be able to hear Sailing By on Radio 4 again without ducking for cover.

I now want to watch everything Rory Kinnear has ever done. Amazing cast. I hope Moaning Myrtle gets loads more telly work after this. I think she might do an Olivia Colman...

marciaoverstrand Wed 14-Aug-13 15:06:06

Me and dh watched the first episode, then he watched the next two on iplayer on his own.
He gave me a shock when he had watched all the episodes,he came down quite upset and wanted to hug me.
Reading what you have all written about wives and daughters I see now why he was upset.

ithaka Wed 14-Aug-13 15:33:39

I had a theory on my walk today (saddo). Maybe the reason we didn't see the young soldier in the 3rd episode (unlike the other bereaved families) is because HE shot Steven - and that is why the retired copper heard the wrong sort of bullet shot.

Just an idea (but you can bow down & call me a genius if I am right).

harrietspy Wed 14-Aug-13 15:42:40

ithaka, that's brilliant. I don't think the conspiracy copper was right -there's no way the police would let him get away - but he probably was right about the gun. Your young-soldier theory is excellent.

StepAwayFromTheEcclesCakes Wed 14-Aug-13 15:45:27

no the soldier was shot I am sure, as when the social worker turned up at the mums house to find her dead the police were there and cordoned off the house next door (which she just stepped through unchallenged hmm) and there was a body lying in the doorway, sure this was where soldier boy and girlfriend lived. will have to watch it back to check.

harrietspy Wed 14-Aug-13 15:49:26

Social worker stepping into crime scene seemed completely unlikely (but I'll forgive them because everything else is ok).

The soldier wasn't shot because the journo was talking to his SAS uncle in the pub about what the soldier would do now. The uncle said the soldier was with family for now but would go back overseas and that he'd be an excellent soldier because he had nothing to lose.

StepAwayFromTheEcclesCakes Wed 14-Aug-13 16:05:31

yes I just played it back and the body in the doorway was some random woman who has not been seen yet. i am very confused. wonder if the lsat episode on Sun 18th will show it all again sequentially so we know what actually happened and who was shot? what happened to everyone else etc.

Blondeshavemorefun Sun 18-Aug-13 13:43:37

last one tonight, will all be revealed?

cristal and recal, les revs, was the returned - french so subtitled but very gripping - several threads on here about it and a fab series - think can watch on demand

EeTraceyluv Sun 18-Aug-13 21:27:18

what on earth is going on now confused

Blondeshavemorefun Sun 18-Aug-13 21:33:08

I'm puzzled but tbh whole series has puzzled me with the time jumping

EeTraceyluv Sun 18-Aug-13 21:45:37

it's really winding me up now!!

BaconAndAvocado Sun 18-Aug-13 22:02:50

What. Bloody let down angry

BaconAndAvocado Sun 18-Aug-13 22:03:22

What a bloody let down!

fancyanother Sun 18-Aug-13 22:04:27

What a steaming pile of s@@!!%$!

Blondeshavemorefun Sun 18-Aug-13 22:05:13

Total crap sad

Why can't things end properly sad

Waste of 4hrs

EeTraceyluv Sun 18-Aug-13 22:07:25

Directed by the same bloke who did 'Red Riding Hood' which was equally arty farty

BeaWheesht Sun 18-Aug-13 22:08:16

FFS am really pissed off

Blondeshavemorefun Sun 18-Aug-13 22:20:51

Anyone want to explain ending or even all 4hrs worth to me grin

EeTraceyluv Sun 18-Aug-13 22:23:22

Trauma on a small society after a catastrophic event? Or summink?

Jenda Sun 18-Aug-13 22:38:04

didn't need 4 hours to tell us that! I'm getting annoyed with these dramas with non endings! grrrr!

Jenda Sun 18-Aug-13 22:38:04

didn't need 4 hours to tell us that! I'm getting annoyed with these dramas with non endings! grrrr!

Jenda Sun 18-Aug-13 22:38:51

whoops, so annoyed I said it twice grin

Blondeshavemorefun Sun 18-Aug-13 22:44:29

so basically tommy felt guilty over his wife and was going to kill his self but didnt - reporter stopped him

stephen went ott/mental and went on a killing spree day after he was beaten up and pissed on by tommy and uncle

so maybe if tommy hadnt had attacked and humiliated stephen that his wife and others would be alive?

ButThereAgain Sun 18-Aug-13 22:54:41

Hmm, I thought it dwindled away a bit today, reducing to: folks turn their back on other folk's unhappiness, which makes bad things happen.

The only poignancy that remained for me was the brilliant performance of Anna's dad, and the memory that Rory Kinnear, like the character he was playing, lost his dad in childhood -- which made all the sadness in his performance feel very raw for me. Dear old Roy Kinnear (Rory's dad), he was a lovely.

dexter73 Mon 19-Aug-13 07:50:42

Jenda - totally agree. That was a real let down.

waikikamookau Mon 19-Aug-13 08:02:21

bit of an oh, is that it
at the end, unfortunately as my expectations were higher.

waikikamookau Mon 19-Aug-13 08:03:01

rory Kinnear's dad died when he was 10 shock sad

ithaka Mon 19-Aug-13 08:03:18

My idea of the young soldier shooting Steven would have been much better - Channel 4 - you need me!

The ending was a great big let down - it didn't exactly end, just fizzled to a stop randomly. I guess they ran out of ideas - annoying/

What on earth was the point of the old copper & the type of gun stuff?

waikikamookau Mon 19-Aug-13 08:08:20

I couldn't properly read his invitation, but it said All Souls, and he was at some All Souls gig at the moment, having closure, hmm

BeaWheesht Mon 19-Aug-13 08:30:30

The note said

You asked for it
You deserve it
All souls (day?)
Happy returns

All Souls' Day is on 2nd November which is when shootings were isn't it?

fancyanother Mon 19-Aug-13 08:44:06

Were we meant to infer that the young soldier had done the shooting when we saw him shoot that rifle? Or would you have only thought that if you had read this thread??? Yes, I agree. Pointless things shoved in. Why was Anna's mother putting a safety pin through her boob? It seemed just voyeuristic to me. And there was a shot of her breast leaking. What was that for? If there is going to be another series to explain all this, at least make the first one interesting enough to make people want to watch again?

eddiemairswife Mon 19-Aug-13 11:58:48

I was puzzled [and repelled] by the safety pin, then thought it she'd done it to make her look more authentic as a sex-worker when she went to 'rescue' Maria, who didn't want to be rescued. that was another baffling part of the story, seemingly slotted in to make the episode last an hour.

limitedperiodonly Mon 19-Aug-13 12:46:18

I wanted to like it and but God it was tosh. It was full of holes and improbabilities and pointless scenes but I got the feeling that because it was classy drama with a good cast you were supposed to ignore that.

limitedperiodonly Mon 19-Aug-13 15:45:15

Also, if that was a brothel there was a bit of a staff shortage.

clangermum Tue 20-Aug-13 09:58:36

But was it a brothel? I thought maybe she had misread that part of the situation too, she was so set on saving someone connected to her daughter. Maria said 'this is my home'. Not that that means necessarily it wasn't a brothel - I just thought maybe it was where a group of migrant workers lived

I wondered if the daughter had a nipple piercing and mum just wanted to feel close to her?

clanger that was my understanding of both those situations too.

I like the fact that nothing is clear cut, that you have to work quite a lot out as the viewer. Although having a thread like this helps enormously wink

clangermum Tue 20-Aug-13 11:35:27

Yes it's much more satisfying than having everything neatly explained

And also, as with a programme like top of the lake, there's room for different takes on it

waikikamookau Tue 20-Aug-13 11:55:44

the leaking nipple was odd wasn't it.
would that actually happen?

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