Nigel Slater.his budget, his kitchen, his food, him, rumble grump

(219 Posts)
Minimammoth Tue 30-Jul-13 19:10:26

It had to be done. A Nigel Slater thread just to get it off your chest.
Do we really have the time that you have Nige?
Does he ever cook for more than one?

Trills Tue 30-Jul-13 19:11:21

I much prefer Raymond Blanc smile

MultumInParvo Tue 30-Jul-13 19:16:26

Raymond gets on my nerves with his 'voila!' every other second. But then I find myself waiting for it. Like a dripping tap.

SirChenjin Tue 30-Jul-13 19:17:02

God yes - him and his bloody 'suppahs' thrown together with leftovers that cost more than my weekly food bill and freshly picked herbs. It's all very pretty and lovely and twee to look at, but not the way that the majority of the UK lives.

SwedishEdith Tue 30-Jul-13 19:18:38

I do love his kitchen but can't help thinking it's badly designed - he always has to traipse across the whol room to get his tins of smoked paprika.

All food must come in brown paper. His kitchen is a Morrison's- cellophane-wrapped free-zone

And the quirky delis and butchers because we all have the budget ...

DioneTheDiabolist Tue 30-Jul-13 19:19:38

He comes across as really smug and a bit creepy. His food doesn't excite me so even if I could afford the ingredients and the time, I wouldn't try his recipes.

I'm not really sure who his fanbase is.

RippingYarns Tue 30-Jul-13 19:19:47

and he needs to stop touching his hair when he cooks

Minimammoth Tue 30-Jul-13 19:22:26

And his little forays into the herb garden. And the just 'throwing' things together. Can he do faffless cooking? Eh eh?
I always get over excited when I see three lemons.

I just had the same thoughts about the cooking for one and the poor kitchen planning!

I used to love his column in the Observer until I saw him on the TV.

Minimammoth Tue 30-Jul-13 19:25:30

That's lemon drizzle cake then, with a bit of thyme. I am obviously enjoying getting wound up.

TheRealFellatio Tue 30-Jul-13 19:25:53

I love him but yet...I agree with all of the above. I just love dribbling at his kitchen and all his lovely pans and utensils. But it annoys me the way he never peels or chops things probably, just hacks it all up like a bit of a ham-fisted oaf, leaving stalks and bits of core in apples etc.

Be more precise Nigel, please. hmm

I have ALL of his books though

lightrain Tue 30-Jul-13 19:26:54

Oh, don't be mean! He's lovely. All the brown paper, fancy garden, herbs and nice delis are aspirational - I don't think we're supposed to cook like that every night!

expatinscotland Tue 30-Jul-13 19:27:11

What budget? His is approaching the stratosphere.

TheRealFellatio Tue 30-Jul-13 19:27:23

The ceremonial, almost pornagraphic unwrapping of two fat slices of pancetta wrapped in brown paper and tied with string, that probably cost about 12 quid always makes me laff.

TheRealFellatio Tue 30-Jul-13 19:28:00

That's how you can live if you are well orf and don't have children. What bliss.

Arisbottle Tue 30-Jul-13 19:30:27

It hardly costs a lot to grow herbs and you don't even need a garden.

I really, really, really, really, really CANNOT STAND Nigel Slater.

There's something about him that makes me physically recoil. Just tried watching him on BBC1 and I had to turnover.

I'm not sure what it is. The greasy hair? The creepy air about him? The smuggery? The word "supper"? His poncey North London lifestyle full of delis and boutique bakeries where even the MINCE comes lovingly wrapped in paper?

Sorry Nige, I really wanted to like you but I can't.

Capitola Tue 30-Jul-13 19:34:44

He is SO affected & unbearably mincing. He makes me never want to eat again.

RippingYarns Tue 30-Jul-13 19:35:00

grating a slab of parmesan the size of which would cost almost my weekly food budget?

jog on, slater grin

Oh, I love him and his cooking. I love that there's no real recipe, and everything is uncomplicated enough to remember. Just some ideas of a few things that might go well together. Also love his kitchen and garden.

Only thing I agree with really is perhaps he could share the meal at the end more often with someone else ? ..... Me ?!!!

(lots of other chefs do this too, like Rick Stein ... prepare a delicious meal and then just eat it by themselves in the kitchen without even sitting down hmm - seems a shame not to share it with others and hear some appreciation of its delights ?)

Chubfuddler Tue 30-Jul-13 19:36:43

Rick stein is much much worse.

It's not real cooking. It's aspirational. To be watched whilst necking a waitrose ready meal. .

TheRealFellatio Tue 30-Jul-13 19:42:34

Oh I love Rick Stein. His books are great but although I do watch him ont' telly he is such a bloody old curmudgeon I wish he'd cheer up a bit.

I love Raymond too. hell, I love 'em all. grin

K8Middleton Tue 30-Jul-13 19:43:04

I cook like that. Random bits foraged from the reduced counter depths of the fridge and the herb pots of supermarket herbs planted in the garden with a few naice reduced bits from the deli.

But I always have someone to eat it with. Me on my own and it doesn't get more exotic than boiled eggs and toast for dinner. I feel a bit sad for him sad

hotbot Tue 30-Jul-13 19:43:29

Smuggery twattery ,
He has to eat alone he's so fucking boring......

Plonkysaurus Tue 30-Jul-13 19:43:53

I'm a fan of Nige, but he really needs to tone it down a bit.

I love the way he just pops over to Tom-from-the-deli's very normal kitchen and starts going through his cupboards. The spice market remark had me chuckling. DP assures me that after Nigel mucked about in Tom's kitchen he probably also propositioned him. I suppose if someone asked me if they could come over and cook dinner for me I'd be expecting at least a kiss.

We also like the way he stares out of his window/stands in the garden to eat his 'suppah'

Crikeyblimey Tue 30-Jul-13 19:45:26

Best thing I ever bought dh was a Nigel cook book. It taught him how to look in the fridge, see what we have and make something. Instead of cooking like an engineer (using every dish in the house and chopping/slicing/weighing every ingredient on the extensive recipe before even starting to cook.

He is creepy though - Nigel, not dh.

K8Middleton Tue 30-Jul-13 19:46:18

I want a big cupboard like Nige's. sigh.

TheRealFellatio Tue 30-Jul-13 19:48:41

I agree Juggling I have almost 200 cookery books (am a bit obsessed) but the thing about our Nige is that everything is easy, non-poncey (in spite of the very affected style of the TV show) homely, and easily achievable. Nothing takes too much prep, too much skill or too much aforethought, and you've got to love that on a weekday evening. Almost every page of every book has something simple that you actually want to eat, and are capable of cooking.

And he gives great, very basic but invaluable advice about what things work together well. I think if you want to learn a repertoire of instinctive, everyday fresh home cooked meals from scratch then there is no-one better to learn from.

peggotty Tue 30-Jul-13 19:49:46

Oh god don't get me started on Rick 'soap box' Stein! Chalky the dog didn't die of old age, he committed doggy suicide to get away from his insufferable owner!

No, no, no.
He looks like he's about to burst into a performance of Riverdance.
Also, he needs to wash his hair and stop being so poncerama with his leftover cheese in brown paper with string.

I'm more the type who finds a leftover dairylea triangle wedged behind the salad drawer.

TheRealFellatio Tue 30-Jul-13 19:59:20

Instead of cooking like an engineer (using every dish in the house and chopping/slicing/weighing every ingredient on the extensive recipe before even starting to cook.

Are we married to the same man?!

When I went away one the kids asked DH to make them scrambled eggs for breakfast. They still laugh to this day about how it took him two hours and involved printing reams of stuff off the internet. grin

Thanks Fell, see thinking of Nige (because of this thread) made me feel much happier about chopping up my lovely tenderstem broccoli and fresh on the vine tomatoes to add to the pasta sauce for our supper.

It's all about the ingredients - nothing wrong with that !

I like his recipes and have read Toast but I find him teeth grinding irritating on tv.

He did cook for Chloe our local greengrocer...

I think he does look slightly lonely sometimes - a bit like the days of Delia with her "cooking for one" smile - much better when he goes round to his mates house and they cook something together - at least as part of the show.

Anyway DS just pronounced his Nigel inspired pasta supper "good stuff" smile

bunnybing Tue 30-Jul-13 20:19:37

I have a couple of his books and like realfellatio I like the fact that he keeps things simple.

And he doesn't have kids - which is a good thing because unlike Jamie Oliver or Gordon Ramsay he doesn't say thing like 'all kids love this recipe and beg me to make it on a weekly basis'. Yeah - all kids except mine who turn their noses up at it.

Any veggie friendly, non-recipe recipe books of his anyone wants to recommend ?

What's "Toast" like Rhinestone ?

DS (11) also declaring "I like broccoli ... especially with tomatoes"

Exactly DS, yummy wasn't it ?

Shitsinger Tue 30-Jul-13 20:24:21

I love Nigel so bog off!
I also like Simon Hopkinson but then food is my main joy in life !
I would sell my kids for a nice loaf of bread blush

Toast is a memoir, with food. His mum died when he was young and his dad remarried fairly quickly and this obviously had a big impact on his life.

mrsjay Tue 30-Jul-13 20:35:58

hI develop a twitch every time he opens a brown packet of scrummy butter or just whips u a simple meal yeah right nige simple supper my arse

NobodyPutsTomArcherInTheCorner Tue 30-Jul-13 20:39:57

Noo I'm defending Nigel (Shields Nige with protective pan lid against the insults)

It's true I think I'd have a hard time feeding my lot on his idea of 'leftovers' because he does only seem to cook delicious morsels for one. But I like him because he cooks the things I would if I could. In a peaceful, calm and savouring way.

I live in a world where 5 want to woof down any old thing as they rush off to other places all at different times leaving me with the detritus. I don't think it even touches the sides and they barely notice if I make something specialhmm

Arisbottle Tue 30-Jul-13 20:40:23

I agree most of his recipes are simple, my staple meals are mostly Nigel Slater and have been part of my repertoire for over a decade.

Bue Tue 30-Jul-13 20:44:47

Love all his writing and especially his book Appetite. I don't think any recipe has more than about 6 ingredients and it makes you feel not so bad about a bowl of noodles with a scrap of pak choi being a meal (a regularity in this house) as it is Nige-Approved.

But his television persona has almost ruined him for me!

ggirl Tue 30-Jul-13 20:50:17

I find him stomach churningly repellant , he makes my skin crawl.
Someone on MN must have met him in real life and be able to testify to his creepiness.

Pannacotta Tue 30-Jul-13 20:55:04

He is a fab cook and even better food writer, but I do agree he is not good TV!
What I like is that he is instinctive and his food combinations are great, but he is just too shy and awkward to be on tele...

Honsandrevels Tue 30-Jul-13 21:03:11

His tv programme doesn't match the books at all. We have a small paperback Nigel book - Real Fast Food - with no pictures that gives brilliant suggestions for quick meals with few/cupboard ingredients.

My children's favourite meal comes from it... pasta with cottage cheese. No brown paper or wanky deli ingredients there!

K8Middleton Tue 30-Jul-13 21:25:01

I wonder if it would be better if Nige wordlessly pottered about the kitchen of some delightfully charismatic types before making them dinner and then silently watching them having a lovely time eating his food?

He did a brilliant sausages in mustard and creme frèche thingy once on the telly. I make it often.

SirChenjin Tue 30-Jul-13 21:44:38

I think he would be lovely in RL - he looks very kind, quite reserved and utterly harmless - but I'd love to see him cooking things that don't come wrapped in bits of brown paper from expensive delis that don't exist outside the more chi chi neighbourhoods of affluent cities and towns across the UK.

mrsjay Tue 30-Jul-13 21:47:37

yes who sells those brown packages ? so i can ram them up their nose whats wrong with taking a knob <snigger> of butter from a foil wrapper like we all do

SirChenjin Tue 30-Jul-13 21:52:12

None of the supermarkets I go to, that's for sure! I wonder if the man has ever come across cling film, or plastic containers (and if he has I bet he can find the lids for all of his)

mrsjay Tue 30-Jul-13 21:53:29

Bless him he is probably in bliss opening his little wrappers

dementedma Tue 30-Jul-13 21:54:40

Brilliant writer, wonderful cook, creepy on telly

LeGavrOrf Tue 30-Jul-13 21:58:51

I LOVE his writing. He comes across so well. But it all disappears on telly. I don't know how much is his fault or ridiculously Tristram production values, like the butter in brown paper mullarkey.

Did anyone watch Simon Hopkinson? Same high falutin foodie values but he is so watchable and seems a lovely chap.

VileWoman Tue 30-Jul-13 22:03:10

Can't stand him on TV but don't mind his books, although I do find the recipes variable. HFW on the other hand is a god.

stillstanding29 Tue 30-Jul-13 22:08:43

Didn't Nigel say something about not being able to sleep if there isn't any cake in the house?? It's the other way round here - we can't sleep if there is cake in the house - we have to eat it all first. I enjoy watching Nigel - but his life and my life are worlds apart - I am stuck in a world that requires me to produce ridiculous amounts of food 3 times a day every bloody day sad

SirChenjin Tue 30-Jul-13 22:16:00

I know what you mean Standing. In my house it's quantity over quality, and it's as quick as they can throw it down their throats. Not all the time, granted, but most of the time....

RoseFlowerFairy Tue 30-Jul-13 22:18:11

I am not sure what to make of him, his movements are much slower than other TV chefs.

I thought the TV crew bought the food in normal shops and wrapped it in greaseproof paper themselves, do shops really wrap food like that in real life?

NobodyPutsTomArcherInTheCorner Tue 30-Jul-13 22:25:08

Same here. I my head I'm Nige pottering about and making one lovingly prepared bespoke dish to eat whilst in quiet contemplation of my herb garden.

In reality I'm yelling come and get it and serving up piles of whatever with one of these

I firmly believe that somewhere there is an assistant taking stuff out of the ASDA and Morrisons packaging and wrapping it up,in brown paper tied with Artisan String, hand spun by craftsmen specially for Nige.

That pat of butter is Tesco Value salted, not hand churned butter from a named cow.

Cynical? Moi? grin

Steamedcabbage Tue 30-Jul-13 22:50:41

So pleased there is a thread about this as there has been a deep Nige rift between myself and my sister for years.

She loves him, as do all her friends, and they all cook his recipes on a frequent basis.

I just don't get the attraction.

It's all the contrived "oh sometimes I don't even plan supper, I just look in the fridge and see what is there" nonsense, when what is there enables him to make a perfect beetroot salad that "just happens" to contrast perfectly with a perfect sodding turquoise designer bowl that just happens to be lying on his perfect reclaimed wooden table ...

And all he seems to do is stand there and state the perfectly obvious in an irritatingly "confiding" manner...as though everyone watching is a complete dimwit..

I'd like to see him cook for a load of hungry children, on a budget, in an ordinary domestic kitchen.

Treagues Tue 30-Jul-13 22:59:08

I owe Nigel Slater a lot. I came from a Fray Bentos pie sort of family and I hated it. I got my own place and a job around the time Real Fast Food was published.
Really good bits and pieces now cost an arm and a leg but they didn't always, fifteen years ago or so you could get dark and interesting ham/artisan sausages (arf)/varietal mangoes (double arf) for not that much, thought it's sell a kidney time nowadays I feel.

Anyway I grew herbs in pots, now have a wee bit in my garden, it is not hard and not uncommon. And I can make food that is bloody naice even if I am not no longer shopping at places where they wrap it up in brown paper and string. Coming from my background it wasn't a given and I'm very, very pleased about it. So lay off St Nige grin and come round for dinner, it'll be lovely smile

Treagues Tue 30-Jul-13 22:59:47

BTW don't feel sorry for him eating alone, afaik he lives with his photographer smile

K8Middleton Tue 30-Jul-13 23:04:22

I just can't get past those sad shots of him eating alone. It's the cookery show equivalent of old man in a supermarket with his sad basket of shopping.

idiot55 Tue 30-Jul-13 23:10:31

Jings poor Nige, lets hope he doesn't find this thread.

I like him, he seems a genuine sort of guy.

Toast is one of my favourite books!

He's passionate about food, nothing wrong with that.

MsMunch Tue 30-Jul-13 23:19:06

Treagues you know you are right, there I go dissing the dude when he was instrumental in introducing me to herbs and non bentos produce.

Davros Tue 30-Jul-13 23:24:11

It's a set. They all are. Nigella s is a studio in Acton I believe. I'm not kidding.
I live in nirth London (as mentioned up thread) and I've never seem butter in brown paper and string, unbelievable. I think he lives more Chelsea way tbh

MaryBateman Tue 30-Jul-13 23:36:53

I watched it tonight and when he said "don't worry if your burgers fall apart a bit in the pan and don't look perfect, we're going for rustic style." I did want to stab him at that point. Rustic style?? That's just normal home cooking surely?

He gives me the creeps but probably only because he looks like my Godmother. It's very strange......

Treagues Wed 31-Jul-13 07:24:05

You should all follow him on Twitter, I think most of you would love it.
He posts pictures of moments in his garden/at his table and dates them.
Quite often it's a tweet describing the fragrance of a rose.

I just think: this is the sort of shit you think matters when you have a nice house and no kids. hmm

marriedinwhiteisback Wed 31-Jul-13 07:30:48

I think he's lovely; I like his books; I love what he says about food; and his lamb shanks and oxtail have become legends in this house. Go Nigel.

Dreadful bunch of vipers on here sometimes.

Minimammoth Wed 31-Jul-13 07:41:03

No not Vipers, just musing on what we are presented with and how far it is from life. Today's challenge, look in your fridge and come up with a tasty suppah a la Nige.

I adore him. Beautiful writer, passionate about food and produce. He has influenced me in both cooking and gardening.
I admit however, that I avoided him for a decade as before I had read his books I had seem an episode of simple suppers that left me with an instant dislike of the smug little fu##er. His book came as an unwanted gift that I now treasure.

I have a suspicion about his always eating alone on television- in the books it's all 'we had x for supper' not I- is there a chance that they don't want to film him eating with a man and he won't eat with a staged female? Just hazarding a guess really, but I think he's gay, and whilst he may not hide it, I doubt the BBC want to flaunt it for fear of losing some viewers. If I'm wrong about his sexuality feel free to correct me, I don't mean to offend at all it's just a thought

EstelleGetty Wed 31-Jul-13 08:29:31

I'm pretty sure he's gay, pregnantpause, the dramatisation of Toast a few years back more or less confirmed it.

I do like him a lot! Yeah, the tv show is a bit precious, but his books are fantastic, beautifully written and photographed. And ok, he has the time to tweet about the scent of roses and doesn't cook in a family-focused way. So what? He doesn't have children. Loads of people don't. A lot of people do get naice meat and cheese from the deli (I'm pretty sure the brown paper's added on set).

I challenge any Slater haters to read Toast and change your mind about him, even a little.

Honsandrevels Wed 31-Jul-13 08:34:39

PregnantPause Nigel is open about being gay, no secret! Not all cookery programmes have cooks serving up food to friends. Delia never even tries her food. Assuming Nigel is lonely because he eats alone on his programme is a strange conclusion.

Plonkysaurus Wed 31-Jul-13 08:43:46

Pregnant I think you're right. He is gay, and not of a mind to hide it. I don't think many people would bat an eyelid if his partner ate with him, but perhaps the partner doesn't want to. Fair play, it's preferable to seeing nigella lawson entertain her 'friends' as in her most recent series.

DP and I just like to make smutty jokes blush

highlandcoo Wed 31-Jul-13 08:47:37

Toast is a brilliant read, especially for those of us old enough to remember Arctic Rolls, blocks of ice-cream wrapped in cardboard, Creamola Foam and the like. Very touching account of how his life changed after losing his mum too.

And Real Fast Food is a fab wee book and very down-to-earth. Chapters like 20 ways with a baked potato, how to grill a chicken breast with different toppings, that kind of thing. Really recommend it - and Real Fast Puddings - for realistic everyday cooking ideas.

I've always loved his more expansively written cookery books too. Have never seen him on the telly though don't think I want to now

sybilfaulty Wed 31-Jul-13 09:08:05

The godlike Simon Hopkinson tasted all his food (and esp the massively strong drink !) on his own and he didn't come across as sad or lonely.

I think I would prefer Nigel to tuck in alone rather than have the faux "friends" round for supper a la Nigella. I think Nigel is just rather awkward on TV and doesn't try to ingratiate himself with the viewer as much as others. I don't do some of his more complicated recipes now as I find the ones I have done haven't work, but real fast food is a joy as it's so simple and you can tell how much he loves food as he writes.

I do find his breathy prose in the Observer mag a bit hard to stomach at times, though, TBH.

Minimammoth Wed 31-Jul-13 09:09:38

Just to put the record straight, am not a Nige hater, just find the program pretentious and far away from what happens in an ordinary kitchen, I think Chub said 'aspirarational'. I am not rushing out to buy the cook book though, ( I do actually like cooking) but mostly don't have the time to give it that much thought. envy

Xiaoxiong Wed 31-Jul-13 09:12:26

I've been a huge fan ever since I read the Kitchen Diaries and one evening he goes to the corner shop and buys two tins of lager, a bag of frozen chips and frozen peas to eat with ketchup in front of the TV and someone accosts him and says "hey! aren't you Nigel Slater?" and then sneers at his frozen peas.

I love every single one of his books. The recipes always work for me and Appetite and Real Fast Food in particular, and the Kitchen Diaries, helped me get into the situation where I can look in the fridge and make dinner with pasta, a couple of dairylea triangles and some wilty cabbage, rather than buying piles of nice ingredients especially. Tender gave me the courage to grow some herbs on my windowsill in a 2nd floor bedsit and now I have a patio, to grow a few more adventurous things.

It's interesting that 99% of the comments here are about his TV show, which I have seen only twice. I assumed everything was wrapped in brown paper and decanted into glass jars because the show was on the BBC and didn't have a supermarket sponsor a la Jamie Oliver and Sainsburys, not just because it's all supposed to be naice and posh.

And the thing about him eating alone is interesting - when I was single I remember watching Nigella and the Barefoot Contessa with these crowds of friends and family and thinking "why bother, there's no one to cook for" and eat Pringles. Whereas in one of his books Nigel says "the best thing about cooking alone is you can buy three perfect scallops or a single nice steak, and eat them by yourself when it would be far too expensive to buy for two". I think that made me a lot more confident and happier on my own making real food and eating it properly.

diddl Wed 31-Jul-13 09:19:15

Aw, I luffs Nige!

I don't think he comes across all that well, though.

Much prefer him to Nigella.

SoupDragon Wed 31-Jul-13 09:22:10

I quite like him. I think it's because his shuffling, slightly dishevelled look reminds me of my late uncle.

I like the idea of making use of what you have left over and I think his approach makes better use of seasonal stuff than a strict meal planning approach. I've often made Slateresque meals at the weekend when I have very little food left from my groovy delivery - watching Nigel makes me feel I can pass it off as fabulously inventive rather than panicked "shit! it'S 6pm on a Sunday and I have no food!"

Wrt the brown paper wrapping, I'm sure it's not essential. Asda Smart
Price probably works too and you're not eating the wrapping.

Trills Wed 31-Jul-13 09:22:36

At least Jamie Oliver looks like he did a Sainsbury's online shop and opens up plastic packaging. I know he's sponsored by them, but it's better than insisting that we go to "our local fishmongers". (like we have one)

The last time I went to a fishmonger I asked for "some chunks of fish to put in a curry" and I ended up with cod. I could have done that at the supermarket myself for less money and without making an extra trip.

SoupDragon Wed 31-Jul-13 09:22:37

I hat eDelia with a passion though.

ZingWidge Wed 31-Jul-13 09:23:36

all I want to know is where he got that large pestle and mortar of his - the pestle looking like a huge flat-ish bowl - because I want one!

I so desperately want one!sad

Trills Wed 31-Jul-13 09:24:03

I have one Nigel Slater book - a diary-ish one - and you're right that there are hardly any recipes - just smug "I ate one perfect tomato on a slice of sourdough with a drizzle of artisan olive oil from Sicily".

What else did you eat Nigel? Did you go down the chippy after that?

stinkyfluffycat Wed 31-Jul-13 09:27:32

I met him once, and he was very lovely and helpful when he didn't really have to be. And as Xiaoxiong says, I'm sure the TV people have a lot to do with why things don't come of out a plastic Tesco's packet.
Be nice to Nigel, I'm sure he would be nice to you!

curryeater Wed 31-Jul-13 09:39:21

I think Slater is very annoying on TV and he would be less annoying if they showed him with his partner (does he have a male partner?) and a lot of gay friends having lovely gay suppers. I feel like they show him on his own all the time because they can neither bring themselves to show him with a fake wife nor admit that he is surrounded by screaming queers all the time. they should do the latter and have a laugh and he would be less cringey to watch, all alone, smirking at the camera in a vast empty kitchen

PixieBumbles Wed 31-Jul-13 09:46:58

I'm not a fan of his TV show, but then I'm not into TV cookery programmes in general. The only TV cooks I really enjoy watching are the Hairy Bikers.

I do love his recipes and writing though. I have a copy of Kitchen Diaries and although I've only made about three things from it I love to just sit and read it. My Mum and I both swear by his lemon and basil roast chicken from Real Food as a simple meal (sorry, suppah!) for entertaining.

encyclogirl Wed 31-Jul-13 09:59:48

I loved Toast. Fantastic read and really touching.

I don't mind him on TV, even though I think he does veer towards the creepy and my leftovers don't in anyway resemble his.

I bet he's lovely in real life and you can see he's in his element unwrapping his little packages.

Good man Nige.

Davros Wed 31-Jul-13 10:06:11

I enjoyed the televised Toast, BBC I think. I like him but all these programmes are very staged, it's just the way it is

SoupDragon Wed 31-Jul-13 10:13:58

curryeater Err... maybe he isn't always surrounded by "screaming queers all the time" or having "lovely gay suppers"

What a truly bizarre thing to say.

Xiaoxiong Wed 31-Jul-13 10:23:41

curry he does have a long-term partner, who is a professional food photographer which is why he has all these lovely pictures of his day to day food in his books - they met when he was working at Marie Claire in the early 90s. But he lives alone with his cats, and if you read the Kitchen Diaries in fact he does actually eat on his own most of the time.

(Disclaimer - not a stalker, just read a profile of him in the Observer years ago and it stuck in my head how solitary he seemed to be.)

curryeater Wed 31-Jul-13 10:30:59

Xiaoxiong (What does your name mean btw?) Oh is it Jonathan Lovekin? (I love that name so much. If I was that sort of person I would get a cat and call it Jonathan Lovekin. And go on and on about Stocky Toffee pudding and have a million rugs and cushions and always have the house a bit too hot and burn essential oils in little burners and be very very kind and giggly and a bit claustrophobic and have a list of places in Richmond and Hampstead where I love to have cake and buy unflattering wildly expensive over-embroidered lumpy jackets)

Maybe he (Slater) is very happy but I think there is something a little odd and chilling about him, all that food-love seems to be standing in for something. I am just projecting I suppose: I am mistrustful of food, I would like to be post-food. I doubt I will lie on my deathbed and think "If I only I had muddled more fresh herbs in a photogenic pestle and mortar, that is my chief regret"

ZingWidge Wed 31-Jul-13 10:31:29

xiao is it a male or a female partner?

Treagues Wed 31-Jul-13 10:32:42

ZingWidge: he did tell someone who'd asked on Twitter where he'd got that pestle and mortar grin I can't remember the answer but it's in his Twitter account somewhere.
He is always lovely on Twitter and responds to nice people.

ZingWidge Wed 31-Jul-13 10:34:51

curry that's it! It's that photogenic pestle and mortar I want!
do you know where to get it.
anyone?
I might have to start a thread. ...

and yes, having a little garlic & rosemary squashing session in it IS on my list of things to do before I die. and I'm not even joking

Treagues Wed 31-Jul-13 10:37:03

The whole book Toast is about the food-as-love thing.
He doesn't seem lonely or solitary to me at all, he seems like someone who is part of a product for tv and publishing, maybe a bit of an introvert, someone who has gorgeous corners in his house in which to sit and appreciate his exquisitely grilled courgettes drizzled in single-estate olive oil, sprinkled with home-grown chervil and a crunch of flaky salt. It must be flaky salt. There simply is no other.

ZingWidge Wed 31-Jul-13 10:37:18

treagues thanks, but I'm not ot twitter.

oh I bet it was custom made or he bought it from some remote village....sad

Xiaoxiong Wed 31-Jul-13 10:39:59

curry yes it is Jonathan Lovekin I think - and google agrees so must be right!

My name means little bear in Chinese smile

Haha google has also turned up this quote from Nigel in 2005: "Well let's face it, who on earth besides antique dealers and gay couples actually still give dinner parties?" So he certainly does recognise that he lives in a rarefied world removed from the hustle of family life with small screaming children.

(As I type I am listening to DH swearing as he scrubs banana off the kitchen skirting board nearest the highchair.)

JollyHolidayGiant Wed 31-Jul-13 10:42:41

I agree with Fellatio. Nigel's recipes are so easy and involve very few ingredients.

We made the haddock chowder the other day, but did chicken instead of haddock. So ingredients were: chicken, carrot, milk, Swede, potato, turmeric, black pepper and mustard seeds. All stuff we have in the house anyway. (apart from Swede but that's hardly going to break the bank).

We did a chicken and tarragon thing one day too which was equally easy.

We are confident in the kitchen anyway and have no problem substituting ingredients, particularly with more simple recipes.

curryeater Wed 31-Jul-13 10:45:00

Seriously? You want the pestle and mortar? Are you going to have it standing about taking up surface space and getting grimy? Or are you going to find some cupboard space for it, having to budge things about and needing enough height for the pestle, which then rattles about when you reach past it? Are you going to leg the heavy thing over to the sink to hand wash it every time you have used it? Leave it upside down on the draining board to dry, with water pooling in the base, and the pestle rolling off onto your foot? Or dry it by hand? Are you going to "style" it on the window sill, making it look really good by getting rid of the jam jar of pens and pencils that was near it, but now you never have a pencil when you want one? [brain explodes that people actually want things like photogenic pestles and mortars]

Treagues Wed 31-Jul-13 10:46:32

I use a pestle and mortar almost daily confused
SUre it's grand

Xiaoxiong Wed 31-Jul-13 10:53:59

Agree with the minimal and normal ingredients as well. Last night we had chicken thighs in the fridge. I looked up in Appetite - recipe was called "chicken, garlic, herbs".

The sum total of the ingredients was: chicken, garlic (whole and unpeeled), herbs (choice of long list so I used what I had), butter/olive oil, salt, and pepper.

I did one of the variations and added white wine, a splash of cream which we had for strawberries anyway, tarragon and a squeeze of lemon.

Out of interest, Delia's tarragon chicken includes all the above plus sherry vinegar (don't have), creme fraiche (never buy) and 12 whole peeled shallots nightmare. Jamie's has all that again, but also mirepoix, bay leaves, stock, egg yolks, flour and button mushrooms!

Treagues Wed 31-Jul-13 10:55:32

<hungry>

ShoeWhore Wed 31-Jul-13 10:55:41

I think I would prefer Nigel to tuck in alone rather than have the faux "friends" round for supper a la Nigella. I think Nigel is just rather awkward on TV and doesn't try to ingratiate himself with the viewer as much as others.

This. He doesn't work for me on TV but I love his writing - have loads of his books - he has taught me more about cooking than anyone else.

EeyoreIsh Wed 31-Jul-13 10:57:08

His tv programmes are a little annoying, but he has done excellent cook books.

I first started cooking on the back of a little 15 minute meal book he did. and his 'Tender' books are great.

It's only in recent times he's strayed from the achievable.

Xiaoxiong Wed 31-Jul-13 10:58:21

Haha curry I also have a little mortar and pestle and use it most nights so it never gets grimy.

In fact - and this will blow your mind - I'm getting a second bigger one so I can keep the tiny one I have just for pepper since I am constantly washing it and using again. We have gone through three increasingly expensive pepper grinders and I refuse to waste any more money on them when the mortar and pestle does it better every time.

And it just so happens that the one I want, after much research, is both the best for what I need it for, and very photogenic grin

LadyClariceCannockMonty Wed 31-Jul-13 11:05:38

I haven't really seen his TV stuff but is it subliminally meant to appeal to a cliche of a gay man? You know, the kind that TV producers believe lives/works/eats alone apart from his cat.

In Nigel's books he's always cooking for a mysterious 'eight' or 'six' or talking about how last night 'we' had baked tomatoes and blah di blah for dinner.

naomilpeb Wed 31-Jul-13 11:07:58

I love him. As an introvert who likes cooking, I prefer his 'cook alone, eat alone, enjoy your own company and your food' approach. Those cookery programmes where they have loads of mates coming over (Sophie Dahl and Tom Parker-Bowles, I'm thinking of you) and having such wonderful sociable fun just don't appeal. Not that I get a chance to do much cooking and eating alone these days [glares at DP and DC].

ZolaBuddleia Wed 31-Jul-13 11:12:38

Surely he doesn't really just whip it all up on the spot without planning? Otherwise he'd be dragging a box of Findus Crispy Pancakes out of the freezer like the rest of us.

I'm always very suspicious that he never fully opens his fridge door. Reckon it's got a KFC bucket in there to finish. For supper.

myron Wed 31-Jul-13 11:13:51

Nigel is definitely my favourite food writer. Ok, the programme is pretentious but it's not rocket science to substitute supermarket ingredients. Anyway, it's deliberate food porn and so it should be. Not exactly sexy to watch him shopping at the supermarket rather the chi chi deli is it? I rarely buy organic or from such a deli - it's a treat when I do especially when generic food costs are rising. I however will make the effort/trip to buy from a Market once a week in addition to a supermarket shop and do possess a cupboard full of the more unusual sauces, spices and pastes. I suspect that the middle ground is where the majority of the public including ourselves lie and we are an extremely foodie family. I completely identify with throwing meals together by instinct or by experimenting. I always find it weird when people are obsessed with sticking to the exact recipe with no imagination to deviate from it. Yes, his tv persona is a bit creepy but I'm still a fan!

K8Middleton Wed 31-Jul-13 11:15:06

I'm feeling inspired to flick through one of his cookery books someone bought me. I don't really do cookery books because of the faff of planning and buying all the stuff and the washing up! Oh the washing up! But I'm going to have a look at his again.

motherinferior Wed 31-Jul-13 11:20:32

I love him. And I love the fact he thinks about food for ONE PERSON. When I was single, the last thing I wanted was yet more "oh you childless saddo" messages. I love the way Nige will suggest chopping sun-dried tomatoes in oil into your pasta and adding a bit of cheese and hey, there's a fabulous supper. This is a man who likes food.

Pootles2010 Wed 31-Jul-13 11:21:53

xiao please linky me you pestle & mortar? Mine's too small, I need a big 'un for making sauce type things.

motherinferior Wed 31-Jul-13 11:22:08

Oh, and I have a terrific granite pestle and mortar which are much better for crushing spices than a pricy, short-lived electric grinder. I used it last night to smash up cumin and coriander seeds to chuck over some aubergine and chickpeas I was roasting in olive oil with garlic.

curryeater Wed 31-Jul-13 11:22:21

Really? You need a pestle and mortar? but it takes ages. What do you use it for?

I do:

Pepper - pepper mill
ginger, chilli, herbs, garlic etc - nice big sharp knife and a chopping board
Curry spices - adorable little spice mill

which of these (or something else) should I be using a pestle and mortar for?

ZingWidge Wed 31-Jul-13 11:23:41

yes curry I do want one just like that. and I would use it.

I think there are strangers things than that in people's possession - plastic flowers and garden gnomes come to mind....

<shudders>

anyway
I like him, he is not rushing around. he gives me a sense of calm and composed. I aspire to being like that so I like watching him. fake or not.

I love him. LOVE. Yes, he is a bit odd on the Telly - although I now feel obliged to watch his programmes so that he has some loyal viewers.

what everyone else has said about appetite, it is the one book that has influenced my cooking above all others. Well, maybe Nigella how to eat although that was a recent-ish addition so doesn't truly count. I have 4 of his cookbooks and would happily have them all if I could justify them. I love reading them. I love his throw it together style. I love his eating alone and indulgently culture. Love love love. And I do actually use them regularly. Unlike sodding JO who uses every pan and lies about how long things take.

<off to follow him on twitter>

ZingWidge Wed 31-Jul-13 11:31:14

mother electric grinders are my pet hate now.

we spent a fortune on different ones because they kept on breaking or the salt ones just corroded.

and I dropped one in the sink half full of yucky oily tomatoey gunk water - there was no way of cleaning it....

curry sorry if it's too weird for you, but really why have anything?
you don't actually need a bed or a tv or a phone....people can live without these things.

I want one because I like it and would find it useful. that's enough reason for me.smile

magimedi Wed 31-Jul-13 11:33:10

Real Fast Food is a brilliant cookbook & my copy is nearly in pieces.

But he just can't 'do' telly. Some people are just not suited to it. Simon Hopkinson wasn't much use on telly but I love everything he has ever written & have never had a failure with any single one of his recipes.

I'm sure it's far harder than any of us realise to cook, talk & be filmed and come over OK.

(Won't show any of you most of the photos ever taken of me grin )

SoupDragon Wed 31-Jul-13 11:39:09

Allegedly, the pestle and mortar is by John Julian and the one NS has is no longer available.

Kendodd Wed 31-Jul-13 11:46:32

Leave him alone, I love him!

He's better in the winter though, all cosy and comforting.

ZingWidge Wed 31-Jul-13 11:46:43

thanks for that soup!

it's the ball handle one...it's so beautiful...and expensivesad

I don't know if I can justify it.

SoupDragon Wed 31-Jul-13 11:49:46

Someone had one made up by a local potter instead.

But it's still less than the £2000 estimate below grin

Xiaoxiong Wed 31-Jul-13 11:55:44

Pootles I've asked for this one for my birthday. Ceramic, wooden handle, pouring lip, holds just under 500ml.

And it's soooooooooooo pretty wink

And just for you curry - m&p does all three of those jobs rather than having various different appliances:

pepper - have gone through three bastarding mills. Don't know what we do to them, they just break and break, and the last one was supposedly the rolls royce of mills. CBA to waste any more money when the m&p does it right every time.

ginger, garlic, herbs - knife and chopping board 90% of the time. But I can't actually grind things into a properly smooth paste using my knife - maybe there's something I'm doing wrong technique-wise, but for pesto or ginger/garlic paste for curries the m&p is invaluable.

spices - never got a spice mill because I already had a m&p, and I try very hard to avoid electrical things as we break them regularly. Also I like to control the texture of the spices - sometimes a bit coarser (eg. on top of roasted veg), sometimes finer (eg. whole spices for a curry).

ZingWidge Wed 31-Jul-13 11:59:37

soup shock 2 grand? what? where?
I missed that!

Xiaoxiong Wed 31-Jul-13 12:02:20

£2k! DH is getting off easy, the one I want's only £29.07 - and I thought that was spendy grin

Pootles2010 Wed 31-Jul-13 12:12:29

Gah can't see the link - work site blocker won't let me! How frustrating. Is it a lot?

Funnily enough our pepper mill broke on holiday, they don't seem to last long.

SoupDragon Wed 31-Jul-13 12:24:14

Didn't someone on the thread say "I bet it costs something like £2k" ?? That's all I meant! grin

Pootles2010 Wed 31-Jul-13 12:34:28
Pootles2010 Wed 31-Jul-13 12:35:05

Oops link fail - sorry!

mrsshackleton Wed 31-Jul-13 12:43:22

I adore Nigel on the page, can't be doing with him on telly. As others say, not a natural.

He does live in North London, but his house is a set. Sorry, chaps.

GinOnTwoWheels Wed 31-Jul-13 12:44:28

I think I like him, although he is a bit smug and irritating and somewhat separated from the real world.

I have a couple of his books and like his recipes. DP and I watched his show last night and I was trying to find out if there was a book for the current series, while at the same time looking for a recipe for chick peas and chorizo that I had seen mentioned on here a couple of times, when I spotted this

Scroll down to the end of the recipe for Fnar Fnar!!

Steamedcabbage Wed 31-Jul-13 12:45:49

OK so having read these posts ...

concede he probably is a good bloke - having nothing against him personally -

agree that 'Toast' was very well written and an interesting book

agree he definitely shouldn't be criticised for just cooking for one

but still can't stand the pretension and poncey contrivance of the show ...

honestly, who just "happens" to have a duck breast lying around in the fridge?

Treagues Wed 31-Jul-13 12:46:42

I love the whole simple but good food thing. I suspect he doesn't whip out the Findus Crispy Pancakes when he's rushed, no grin

Pasta with a bit of garlic and thyme fried in really tasty olive oil. Quick grating of cheese. Lived on that in the first years of renting/working.

I like people who are slow and gentle on tv. Monty Don's another one. Don't want to see loudmouths rushing around with fake friends and drawling or bossing. Give me a languorous shot of a fried guinea fowl breast sitting on a handmade plate any day.

Treagues Wed 31-Jul-13 12:47:25

Steamedcabbage: people who buy duck breasts! like me

noddyholder Wed 31-Jul-13 12:48:50

Love his kitchen and herb garden! His recipes are foolproof too

SoupDragon Wed 31-Jul-13 12:56:48

honestly, who just "happens" to have a duck breast lying around in the fridge?

I think it's more how he shops - he buys things because he likes the look of them and doesn't have a clear purpose in mind for them. Complete antithesis of meal planning!

noddyholder Wed 31-Jul-13 13:02:03

I don't meal plan either grin

Minimammoth Wed 31-Jul-13 13:05:16

I am with Steamedcabbage. Nige probably nice bloke. Maybe I will abandon telly series and look at one of his books. But never have a spare ducks breast in fridge so will probably fail.

Treagues Wed 31-Jul-13 13:08:31

It's not that difficult.
Have some pancetta knocking about in the meat drawer (tesco's is shite, sainsbury's is good enough)
Have a bit of parmesan going slightly dry because the triangular packet won't re-close hmm
have green lentils on standby
a few herbs in pots and one bottle of naice olive oil

He'd make about three different meals from that lot grin

encyclogirl Wed 31-Jul-13 13:14:06

Oooh Monty Don, I love that man. He's been on and off my "5 that I definitely would" for the past 10 years or more.

Minimammoth Wed 31-Jul-13 13:20:54

Treagues, I probably have all those ingredients too, except the pancetta, but always have bacon.< Peers into fridge.... How about a bit of pork tongue, vanilla yoghurt and a few strawberries> throws down gauntlet.

Xiaoxiong Wed 31-Jul-13 13:25:41

Honestly reading all these comments I feel like the show and the books must be poles apart!

3/4 of the "recipes" in his books are things like - here's something to use up all the heels of cheese lurking in the bottom of the fridge that are too crusty and hard to eat, or buy a pot of green olive paste, stir into pasta, eat, or here are 5 things you can put on top of a plain piece of fish to make it more interesting.

My favourite lunch of all time is fresh broad beans, boiled briefly, fried with bacon and some parsley and eaten with toast and boursin - one of the Kitchen Diaries non-recipe recipes and about 50p per person. We had it yesterday and DS (19 months) scarfed it down as well so another little Nigel convert.

He really is a food writer rather than a TV chef so that must be why he comes across so much better on the page. I bet someone told him he needs to get on TV now he's written all these books, and unfortunately he's not a natural, at all.

Xiaoxiong Wed 31-Jul-13 13:27:00

Oh and the other Nigel standby when we are skint - spaghetti tossed with breadcrumbs fried in bacon (and its fat).

Steamedcabbage Wed 31-Jul-13 13:36:06

Ah, ..now Monty [sighs at the thought of him straddling a hornbeam] he's permanently in my number one slot wink

Back to Nigel, at the risk of getting a little too pedantic ...

Treagues I buy duck breasts too but I don't often happen to have one spare ifyswim. We either eat them all (ie intended for specific dish) or don't have any.

SoupDragon Yes, I can see that makes sense about the way NS shops ...oh to have the luxury of that!

OK, will go back to the books, and have another look ...

I'm stumped Minimammoth!! My own conundrum tonight will involve cold roast lamb (which I don't much like anyway) those peaches that look like doughnuts (sort of squashed looking), Philadelphia cheese and turnips...

Steamedcabbage Wed 31-Jul-13 13:38:19

Xiaoxiong must admit that broad bean dish sounds delicious!!!

ZingWidge Wed 31-Jul-13 13:39:51

soup now I get the 2k comment. I committed the crime of not reading whole thread.blush
grin

Treagues Wed 31-Jul-13 13:41:44

Mash the strawbs, mix with the vanilla yogurt, freeze.
Throw the pork tongue away and get down the shops grin

ZingWidge Wed 31-Jul-13 13:42:42

grin @ mini and steamed

you two sound like Monica before leaving the apartment - she puts out the bits of food she found plus "a questionable orange"

grin grin grin

ZingWidge Wed 31-Jul-13 13:43:39

*in Friends, I mean. I think it was the last episode

The DCs (9+6) love his show. However their all time favourite is Michel Roux Jr - or the man who puts wine in everything as he's known by DD.

K8Middleton Wed 31-Jul-13 14:49:27

Really Nige is perfect for anyone who trawls the supermarket looking for red reduced stickers. That's how you end up with random duck breasts.

Arisbottle Wed 31-Jul-13 15:30:50

I was going to say the same, K8.At the end of our shop we often check the reduced section.

SilverOldie Wed 31-Jul-13 17:12:25

I love Nigel and his book Toast is one of my favourites. Comparing with other tv chefs, he is far more watchable for me than Simon Hopkinson (sorry, don't like him), the bloody awful Nigella and the hideous James Martin.

Dozer Wed 31-Jul-13 17:13:20

His Toast book is really good.

Mamf74 Wed 31-Jul-13 17:19:58

I really like Nigel Slater, agree he can be a bit 'intense' on the telly but his slow delivery and prep of stuff means more sticks than the super fast almost panicky delivery of someone like Rachel Allen.

I also love Simon Hopkinson for the same reason, very matter of fact and calm!

Is there one book that the Nige telly recipes come from, or are they a selection from across his books? Some look lovely, and whilst almost anti-recipes I still forget bits & pieces!

Uverguv Wed 31-Jul-13 17:42:00

Did anyone see Nigel (and his beard!) judging the 'produce show' on Countryfile on Sunday? They had put on a country show to celebrate their 25th anniversary but had only invited about 250 'carefully selected' viewers to take part. Consequently they had only about three entries for each of the produce, baking, preserves etc sections. Cue careful camera angles to disguise the empty tables and long winded lyricism about the solitary pot of strawberry jam and six shortbread biscuits. Most amusing. Poor Nigel.

MacaYoniandCheese Wed 31-Jul-13 17:43:19

Awwww...I love Nigel. I feel a kinship with him, as a fellow shy person. I imagine that he had to be talked into doing a TV program and that he's probably WAY out of his comfort zone. It might help if they showed him doing some other stuff besides frequenting bijou delicatessens and artisan markets all the time. Maybe taking out the trash or walking the dog or something besides drooling over brown paper packages tied up with string every five seconds. To make him seem more three dimensional, or something.

I cannot, however, forgive his liberal use of the word 'supper'. It gives me the creeps.

GinOnTwoWheels Wed 31-Jul-13 19:14:12

Perhaps NS only cooks for one because his DP won't eat the creations of his ponciness and only eats terrible processed food like Greggs sausage rolls and McDonalds grin.

Not quite spare duck breast, but I do I have six duck legs in my freezer that I got for a grand total of £1.70 from the Morrisons reduced fridge on a Sunday afternoon a couple of weeks ago. I'm planning on roasting some and maybe make a chinese pancake style affair as well.

Perhaps I need to dust off my Nigel Slater cookbooks and buy some more as I shop a bit like him in that I will just pick up a load of stuff that looks nice and then get home and get the cookbooks out and realise I need more stuff to actually make what I've got into meals. I don't waste anything but there's just a bit too much food in the house.

I was especially envy that he talked about using up everything he'd bought and not having anything left at the end of the week <eyes never ending cabbage with distaste>.

Steamedcabbage Wed 31-Jul-13 19:25:02

arf at potential Gregg sausage roll eating and "questionable orange" grin

Lottapianos Wed 31-Jul-13 22:01:05

Some of you lot sound dead jealous of his lack of children and lovely big kitchen. I agree that the ponceyness is a bit much sometimes, and he's really not very good on telly. However, he is a really wonderful writer who absolutely adores food. I also identify with his emotionally abusive/repressed childhood and the hammering that gives your self esteem and how important it is to take good care of yourself as an adult in order to recover.

I would like to be his flatmate I think. I would so enjoy cooking in his fabulous kitchen and we could have endless horrendously boring conversations about beetroot and preserved lemons grin

SirChenjin Wed 31-Jul-13 22:11:32

Dead jealous of his lack of children? Nope, not in the slightest. His lovely big kitchen? Yep, absolutely grin I can identify with his childhood too, but I think everyone has a different way of dealing with it.

ZingWidge Wed 31-Jul-13 22:12:32

lotta
I'm very envy of his beautiful kitchen, that I agree with!grin grin grin

I loved his 12 Tastes of Christmas and I like his presenting style.

ShoeWhore Wed 31-Jul-13 22:19:38

It's funny that Nigel comes across as so serious and earnest on the TV - his early writing is really quite funny, down to earth (eg extolling the virtues of chips and beer) and he often mentions soft spots for various junk foods.

I think he's been overly Tristramed grin

ShoeWhore Wed 31-Jul-13 22:20:49

I think the kitchen is genuine btw. I remember a guardian article when he first did the kitchen and garden.

NoelHeadbands Wed 31-Jul-13 22:48:46

I think he's marvellous, but on telly he's so coquettish.

The way he peers up through his fringe, a smile playing on his lips and a....pause....before he finishes the sentence. The man practically makes love to the camera!!

Ugh.

Chubfuddler Wed 31-Jul-13 22:52:12

He does have a great kitchen. I like kitchens that don't look like kitchens.

SoupDragon Thu 01-Aug-13 07:20:21

I think he's marvellous, but on telly he's so coquettish.

Seriously? Lord knows what you think of Nigella then! grin

Davros Thu 01-Aug-13 09:20:09

Hasn't anyone seen the TV version of Toast or did I dream it? I am very interested in the idea if using p&m for pepper as I'm also sick of broken or useless pepper mills. Why is it always "pestle and mortar" in ordinary conversation and "mortar and pestle" in the meeja and foodie talk?

diddl Thu 01-Aug-13 09:31:48

I've seen it.

HBC as his stepmum & Ken Stott as his dad.

He was in it at the end as a chef who gave him a job.

ZingWidge Thu 01-Aug-13 09:37:01

davros maybe it's a "fork and knife" type of issue?wink

Xiaoxiong Thu 01-Aug-13 09:43:04

Noel again I've only seen two episodes - but that's another thing that seems to me to be ginned up by TV producers because it just seems so out of character.

I can almost imagine someone behind the camera shouting at him "make love to the camera! sexier, sexier! food is sex!" and this shy gay man with a face that looks like it's been hacked out of granite who's been forced into making a TV show to promote his books is desperately trying to please them and cringing inside.

Xiaoxiong Thu 01-Aug-13 09:45:36

Get one Davros! Peppercorns in mortar, bash away with pestle. Doesn't take any longer, more control over texture, and feels deliciously primeval grin

ZingWidge Thu 01-Aug-13 10:31:15

xiao

I never thought he was making love to the camera or that he is sexy.shock

I think he's just passionate which comes across nicely.

not like Nigella, with all the dripping and licking and velvety smoothness and eye lash fluttering. FFS!
I want to tell her: " it's just melting chocolate, woman, not a seduction training course!" angry

SoupDragon Thu 01-Aug-13 11:19:57

If that's "making love" I feel sorry for his partner grin

Bullincathkidston Thu 01-Aug-13 12:53:23

I love Nige's voice, I find it ever so soothing. I'd love him to read me a bed time story. If he wanted to bring some grub round too wouldn't say no.

The programme Is a little over worked. How ever his passion for food does shine through.

I remember seeing him in the allotment, catching a glimpse of him giggling. Seemed less effected.

ZingWidge Thu 01-Aug-13 13:36:50

grin @ soup

Davros Thu 01-Aug-13 13:59:55

We have git two p&ms but will now use the small one for pepper and chuck away the useless grinders

Shitsinger Thu 01-Aug-13 18:49:12

I love Nigels voice and often put on one of his DVDs when I feel a bit in need of comfort blush
I went down the garden and picked about a kg of redcurrants and blackcurrants today, combined with raspberries and I just used Nigels recipe for summer pudding.
Its in the fridge with tins of catfood weighing it down grin
Will scoff it tomorrow with a ton of thick cream.

expatinscotland Thu 01-Aug-13 19:04:41

I could listen to his voice all day.

ethelb Thu 01-Aug-13 19:08:47

I like Nige, and his books are actually far less pretentious then the vast majority of other celeb chefs. And they work better too.

However, the 'left over' giant chicken breast in the fridge (about £5 worth, was pretty hilarious.

Though in this house, the most hilarious episode ever voted by moi, is the one where he goes to his GIANT fridge to take out a 1kg punnet of 'left over' strawberries. WTF!?

SoupDragon Fri 02-Aug-13 07:26:02

I don't think they are "left overs" as such, just stuff he fancied in the shop but hasn't got round to using in something specific.

MrButtercat Fri 02-Aug-13 07:38:37

Love Nige's recipes,they always taste gorgeous(but then I guess they would).

Less brown paper and string would be a huge bonus though,now I'm into my Lidl years with the dc eating me out of house and home it does grate a tad.

<thinks back to those heady farmer's market/Waitrose days pre kids>
<sigh>

TobyLerone Fri 02-Aug-13 07:48:00

Nigel Slater is a feathery stroker and literally makes me shudder. He has oddly hesitant hands and his hair is very unhygienic.

He just looks so greasy I'm
Not sure I could bring myself to eat what he's made.

SirChenjin Fri 02-Aug-13 09:42:40

But he refers to them as 'leftovers' Soup! I'd love to see what he starts off with, if that's what's leftover grin

Xiaoxiong Fri 02-Aug-13 10:02:42

Well this is what he used to look like if that helps? [warning: dodgy facial topiary] smile

SoupDragon Fri 02-Aug-13 10:04:48

They are left over insofar as he hasn't used them by the end of the week.

diddl Fri 02-Aug-13 10:13:17

"They are left over insofar as he hasn't used them by the end of the week."

You can't really accuse him of meal planninggrin

PlasticCups Fri 02-Aug-13 10:54:35

I love him, I would kill for that kitchen and his gorgeous saucepans.

SirChenjin Fri 02-Aug-13 14:07:27

As Diddl says - he really needs to work on his menu planning if he 'just happens' to have all this food lying around at the end of the week grin

Xiaoxiong Fri 02-Aug-13 14:51:11

Oh god. I would kill to cook like NS, the way I did pre-kids...I used to buy all this random stuff from the market, anything that was massively reduced, and eat like a queen. I particularly remember a whole shoulder of lamb for £1 from a posh butcher, a whole salmon for £5 if I gutted and scaled it myself, and a brace of partridges from the market, 2 for £2.

DH was commenting the other day that we ate fancier stuff when we were students and had no money than we do now, simply because we had time to go shopping every day and hoover up the bargains.

LadyMilfordHaven Fri 02-Aug-13 14:53:07

Lovely Janice Turner interviewed him once for the TImes. IIRc she said he was rather fernickity

SlimePrincess Fri 02-Aug-13 15:35:40

I like Nigel. I absolutely cannot abide the barefoot fucking contessa though.

leakylills Fri 02-Aug-13 16:54:03

He looks dirty to me. Also I can't stand- I could use basil, I could Rosemary, I could use Parsley.. Just pick one and be fucking done with it you tit..

motherinferior Fri 02-Aug-13 16:57:51

God yes, I ate amazingly as a student.

leakylills Fri 02-Aug-13 16:58:46

I washed dishes in a Soho restaurant as a student and ate better than all of you. Ha ha

Queazy Fri 02-Aug-13 17:00:15

I love Nigel! Have you read his book 'Toast' - absolutely brilliant. His cake recipes are insanely good. Nope, not a bad word to say about the man...! smile

2468BONJOVI Fri 02-Aug-13 17:03:52

leakylils, I am pleased to hear it. I read Kitchen Confidential and Bourdain said the workers in good restaurants got terrible food. I don't want to believe it, I want to imagine that everyone who works there gets top nosh.

Xiaoxiong, if you would kill... and it was pre-kids....the answer is staring you in the face.

whowherewhen Fri 02-Aug-13 17:28:19

I must say how much pleasure reading this thread has been. It's made me laugh so much - very amusing thoughts on dear Nige!! For one thing, it as amazing the number of comments on here.
Yes, he himself is very unappetizing - very unclean looking hair and not good when he touches it whilst cooking. He should follow Hugh Fern.Whit who is now looking rather better with a shorter style. Also his drawling talk is irritating.
Yes his book Toast was rather good but we probably have to forgive a lot of the detail in his TV program as he's probably manipulated a great deal by the producer.

LadyClariceCannockMonty Fri 02-Aug-13 18:02:39

'Just pick one and be fucking done with it you tit' is making me snort.

Yes, with the herb thing I think he should suggest whichever he'd choose, and then say or you could use X for a more mediteranean flavour or whatever - but surely using different herbs will make quite a big difference to the flavour ? So odd when he just says use X,Y or Z.

You can perhaps take the no recipe do what you like thing a bit too far? (especially when making a food/cookery programme)

Minimammoth Fri 02-Aug-13 22:06:31

Tonight's challenge. Make store cupboard meal. Er. Pasta, tuna, flagelot beans, half an onion, courgette bit of pesto, mayo, Parmesan . Nigel is your uncle. Well it was edible.

ZingWidge Fri 02-Aug-13 22:38:33

For tonight's dinner I made a soup:
- 2 cartons of butternut squash soup (tesco)
- leftover rice & peas
- leftover beef from chinese takeaway, finely chopped

mix and heat. no-one complained

leakylills Sat 03-Aug-13 08:27:54

My mum read 'Toast' and said it was good. I'm sure it is, I just think he's a right cold fish on telly and doesn't come across well at all. He actually seems devoid of personality.

leakylills Sat 03-Aug-13 08:53:48

2468BONJOVI Yes we used to get the same food for staff dinner as was on the menu for punters . fabulous stuff...The amount of superb quality, perfectly good food that got thrown away was unbelievable.. Everything from Oysters to Rib eye steaks, farm reared chicken trays of desserts - you name it. All because the menu was changing, so out it went. Needless to say I used to take it home. I'd end up throwing it out as I couldn't eat it all.
I've still the hips to prove it..

Minimammoth Sun 04-Aug-13 15:20:09

I was fancying a go at his lemon cake, as its bucketing down here, so have put the oven on. Not got enough lemons. One only won't do I guess. Noticed he does wear a big wedding ring, so maybe his partner is permanent.
Another question for all you fans, does he run an establishment a la Heston.

Ilovemyrabbits Sun 04-Aug-13 16:20:16

I followed cook books by other people and they generally bombed horribly. Slater's lemon roast chicken was divine to a hopeless chef like me and I was hooked from that recipe onward. I sometimes find myself thinking I'm not keen on him, when I watch him, because he is a bit smug, but then I remember his lemon chicken and watch him some more.... I am clearly one of the fan base.

Just had to pop back on here to say how much I enjoyed watching Nigel cook, chat, and eat with actor Denis Lawson on "A taste of my life" this afternoon.

I think this is his kind of programme, no proper recipes, some good company, and just a lovely combination of food and life.

He's even had his hair cut ! I wondered if he'd seen this thread smile

Minimammoth Tue 06-Aug-13 17:47:52

Our aim is to support celebrities in a positive way with useful little hints, Jugglingwink

milk Fri 09-Aug-13 13:13:20

Have you read one of his cook books? His writing is just as annoying as his speaking angry He is so full of himself!

diddl Fri 09-Aug-13 13:56:37

"A Taste of My Lfe" is a few years old, isn't it?

Unless there's a new series?

volestair Sat 10-Aug-13 05:24:54

None of the leftover stuff can be as bad as that episode of Food & Drink where they brandished a "leftover" whole leg of roast lamb with maybe three slices taken out of it, and proceeded to hack it up into tiny pieces to make subpar shepherd's pie. No, you muppets! Recommend mutton mince, and maybe it'll actually become possible to get hold of the stuff. At least one of the presenters had the good grace to comment that there was never much leftover roast meat at her house when she was growing up.

CancellingTheApocalypse Sat 10-Aug-13 09:45:10

Trills post from earlier in the thread is great!!
Made me lol grin

Trills Wed 31-Jul-13 09:24:03
"I have one Nigel Slater book - a diary-ish one - and you're right that there are hardly any recipes - just smug "I ate one perfect tomato on a slice of sourdough with a drizzle of artisan olive oil from Sicily".

What else did you eat Nigel? Did you go down the chippy after that?"

Begginyouformercy Sat 10-Aug-13 14:20:25

I had the misfortune to catch a couple of minutes of his leftovers programme last night. Oh god, those pauses <boooooooak>

VestaCurry Sat 10-Aug-13 14:27:46

Have one of his early cookbooks which is great and I love 'Toast', but in these days of austerity his recent tv shows leave me feeling on a right downer.

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