Broadchurch finale. Roll up, Roll up.

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fruitstick Sat 20-Apr-13 11:13:13

Eyes down for a full house on Monday.

Hopefully we can combine both threads.

In advance, why don't we each post ONE theory, then we can all gloat afterwards about how clever we are grin

Thurlow Sat 20-Apr-13 11:18:38

Right. Thurlow's theory almost certainly not going to be correct

Tom and Danny fell out because Tom didn't like some of the things Danny was doing - poaching, possibly selling on drugs. The emails and texts Tom deleted where all about how they had fallen out. The two boys had a fight and Tom did something that hurt Danny but didn't kill him, though he possibly thinks that he did kill him. Joe, Tom's dad, saw this happen and when he thought that Tom would get in to trouble because he had really hurt Danny, he killed Danny (finished the job).

Joe's the one guy who would look like Nige from a distance. Also there was that line from Ellie to PQ's character last week - "in your own home, how did you not know?"

However, I would love to be completely surprised. I'd also quite like DT to die of a heart attack right at the end, because he is far to scrummy to die.

fruitstick Sat 20-Apr-13 11:27:54

My theory is that 'something' happened on the paintballing trip which caused the boys to fall out.

I don't think it's a child abuse thing as it's too cliched a storyline.

I think Ollie has been paying Danny to spy on the poaching/drugs ring which has gone wrong. I think there is more to Ellie's sister's story too, possibly about why her husband left.

MadBusLady Sat 20-Apr-13 11:31:52

My theory collection of ramblings:

This is all about something that happened in the past, that Danny (and Tom?) somehow were involved with or got wind of; a murder, an accident, something dodgy, involving most of the men in the town - perhaps to do with Olly's deadbeat dad, perhaps involving Nige's crossbow.
Everybody in Broadchurch is out and about at night up to various nefarious doings. This thing either happened, or Danny found out about it, in late March around the time of the paintballing outing. The vicar knows about it too, though isn't involved, and at some point in the past took the decision to "stand by" his parishioners and not let on; he can see everything from the church at night. This put him in a spot when Danny died, obviously, because he knows of a likely motive. But after Jack Marshall's suicide he decided he wasn't going to trust the police to do the right thing, and in his service after Danny's death he tried to let the town know that he ("God") would not "abandon" them. Now, with the handing over of the computer, he has decided he can no longer keep silent.

The "postman" Danny was fighting with was Mark, and he was involved in doing something that morning to cover up whatever the incident was. The boy on the cliff in the opening sequence is Danny, and he is looking stunned and scared because he is witnessing someone (the footprints on the beach below) doing something that clinches the proof of whatever the incident was.

As a sidenote, Psychic Steve is a practised con artist, who broke into the car in the Sambrook case, and quite possibly burnt the boat. The boat may be a total red herring and PQ may have been lying or mistaken about what she saw, not sure about that bit.

WishIdbeenatigermum Sat 20-Apr-13 11:39:40

Team thurlow here.
I will be absolutely livid if its a child abuse 'big reveal'. Such a cheap cliché. angry

Fiderer Sat 20-Apr-13 11:57:31

Good idea re threads, fruitstick.

I haven't got a theory yet. I have too many questions so I'd be useless at the old "assemble-all-suspects-in-the-drawing-room-accuse-them-then-declare-them-innocent-Because-<insert clever deduction here>then-FINALLY-round-on-The-Killer" lark.

Another q - do Royal Mail vans still have a logo? I re-watched the scene with Danny fighting the "postman" and it was just a red van without markings. Was that just seen through Jack's eyes? I.e. he assumed it was a postman. He didn't have a bag that I could see.

The postman's name is Kevin, that I learned.

blindworm Sat 20-Apr-13 12:22:40

I looked up Royal Mail vans on google images, and the ones that match the shape and size of the 'postman's' van do have a logo. Yellow stripes along the side.

RedPencils Sat 20-Apr-13 12:25:26

I'm in.
Not got a confirmed theory yet but I might rematch the first one again in preparation.

RedPencils Sat 20-Apr-13 12:26:26

googling post office vans? I salute your commitment to the cause!

I haven't the foggiest who killed Danny but I have a an idea on the end of DT.
I think that it will all come out about his wife's affair and how she buggered up the previous investigation.
Daughter will find out and realise that she has been angry at DT for all the wrong reasons and ring him. (Notice how every time he's called her, it's gone to voicemail)
I think he'll then have a heart attack and die just as he is reconciled with his daughter and the killer is revealed/arrested.

I hope not as I loving moody unkempt DT!

ohforfoxsake Sat 20-Apr-13 12:37:20

Signing in. Those pesky kids had better not mess me around on Monday night!

somedayillbesaturdaynite Sat 20-Apr-13 12:38:36

it feels SO wrong to be wishing for Monday at the weekend!!

somedayillbesaturdaynite Sat 20-Apr-13 12:41:12

would it be wrong to spend a rare saturday night without dc watching the previous episodes all over again?

ohforfoxsake Sat 20-Apr-13 12:41:39

Hmm maybe Danny saw Joe and Beth on the beach when he was out poaching with Nige and Tom. The baby is actually Joe's, Joe said he'd talk to Danny and sort it. Danny flipped, Joe lost control and in a panic strangled him.

Beth is in denial that Joe could have had anything to do with it, but is protecting him because if the baby and Ellie.

Probably. Maybe. Perhaps. wink

Not sure what Ellie's sister knows but she's going to feature in the last episode with key clues.

DonkeysDontRideBicycles Sat 20-Apr-13 13:16:44

Thanks for starting this fruitstick.

Beth and Joe - yes feasible. I thought she was sincere about only having slept with Mark. Would she have gone off the deep end about Mark and Becca?

Ollie paying Danny to snoop is an interesting idea.

Shall have to think of a theory before Monday eve.

Fiderer Sat 20-Apr-13 13:17:13

somedayillbesaturdaynite not at all. If I could I would - and I'll probably watch them all again next week for the "Red herring" vs "Clue" spreadsheet grin

landrover Sat 20-Apr-13 15:23:11

I think that joe has been messing with his son Tom (sorry), Tom confided in Danny and his dad found out! Joe made tom arrange a middle of the night meeting with Danny except Joe turned up and murdered Danny to shut him up!
Then goes back home, Tom didnt know what had happened but when he finds out Danny was killed he deletes all messages from Danny and the hardrive on his computer.

Alternatively, Joe doesnt find Danny so comes home (somebody else murders him) but Tom still thinks his dad has done the deed, so covers up for him!!!!! Thats to add to all other theories!!!!!!

WreckfestAtTiffanys Sat 20-Apr-13 15:34:52

I can't make a theory out of it (lame) but I think Ollie did it.

ItsOkayItsJustMyBreath Sat 20-Apr-13 16:01:16

Signing in <marks self as present on the register>

I am too busy working through my list of questions to have a final theory but will try to come to a conclusion before Mon 9pm.

It's ridiculous, I have re-watched episodes up to number 5 and will watch more soon. I have a piece of paper with a plan of who's related to whom, motives, important details etc blush

What are we going to do when this finishes? It feels like when you're coming to the final pages of a book and you're already mourning it.

I completely agree with the theory about Steve being the one that broke into the car, he is a convicted criminal as mentioned in episode 3 (?). That would explain a lot!

My big questions are:

Why did Ellie text Tom at the time of the murder (if it was her and not Joe borrowing her phone)?

Why did Danny text Tom at the time of his murder (does this put Tom off the scene?)?

Who is the man that Jack thought was a postman (but isn't, looks a bit like a cross between Mark and Paul)?

Why did Danny have £500 (I think this is payment from the non-postman but not sure what for)?

Why do I still think Paul is guilty? grin

So many questions so little life blush

Signing in grin

Fiderer Sat 20-Apr-13 16:50:12

I like all the questions grin

What was the row between Post/NotPostman and Danny about?

Tom is worrying about someone - who? himself, his dad?

Danny had a life his parents knew nothing about - the poaching, paintballing and what else?

What happened on the paintballing trip?

Why did who ever has Danny's phone use it to contact the police about the break-in at the hut?

What was hidden in the hut?

Blondeshavemorefun Sat 20-Apr-13 16:51:29

hmm i have spent 7hrs getting totally lost watching this but i can tell you that the killer is

def someone we have seen

erm

weird that the two boys are not friends anymore - something to do with their dads maybe??

hopefully DT didnt do it sad

so i think either the vicar paul or jo the dad

blondes sits blonde butt firmly on the fence grin

'pulls out splinters from said butt'

givemeaclue Sat 20-Apr-13 16:57:03

You lot are wasted, WASTED, I tell you, in your day jobs. You are googling royal mail vans! you all are hired as Alex's replacement when he next keels over

Ooopsadaisy Sat 20-Apr-13 17:06:31

Can't wait for Monday!

I don't want a predictable ending like dodgy photos or drug dealing. A good complex mix-up of co-incidences and accidents would be good.

I don't want to be Joe for Ellie's sake (I do know she's not real but she's so lovely).

I don't want it to be Paul because he's Rory from Dr Who.

I don't want it to be Mark because I rather like him (oh,dear).

Olly is dodgy - oily Olly. Don't like him. Could cope with it being him.

Nige gives me the creeps. PQ could still have done it and trying to pin on Nige, which means she could have been involved in the nasty stuff in her own family (although her story was acted in such a heartbreaking way in the police station that I don't want that either).

Steve also gives me the creeps - probably because the actor always does, whatever he's in - don't know why.

I reckon there is a link to Sandbrook otherwise it wouldn't keep coming up in the story.

All acting is brilliant, by the way. Not a single unbelieveable character which I find is very rare.

DuelingFanjo Sat 20-Apr-13 17:07:06

I will be here for final but not sure I will post much as I don't want to miss a second!

HomeEcoGnomist Sat 20-Apr-13 17:15:43

I have no idea grin
But I like madbuslady's idea, so going with that

Ikeameatballs Sat 20-Apr-13 17:19:29

Joining you all.

I really don't want it to be Joe but I can't see who else it can be.

I agree that Steve stole the pendant at Sandbrook; he obv. loves getting involved in murder cases and I think gets some kind of kick out of it all. I wonder why he said to Beth that the killer was someone close to home?? Does he really know something this time. I think DT talking to the journos about the pendant was his way of trying to get something out of Steve.

How did the vicar get the computer? Must have missed that bit.

YES Ikeameatballs, I like your thinking. DT is far too private and cynical to be letting personal details like this out into the public domain without a good (case-related) reason. It's absolutely to wheedle someone out: might be Steve... because DT would also never have gone to him saying he was desperate for help either. He's flattering Steve, winning his confidence.

Predict DT will die though, sadly.
Agree with the folk that think Ellie's husband did it. Think Danny saw something (gay affair? Who could his dad have been shagging? or was maybe just a 1 night stand or they'd be implicated in murder too...Nige?) and he/they murdered Danny.

Yes. Danny was out early hours poaching or whatever, saw his dad with Nigel, shagging. Hence Nigel being seen by PQ carrying Danny's body onto the shore.

And that's why Nigel's been so overly nice & helpful to Mark & the family - he's guilty as hell.

Ta-dah!

Signing in.

I don't think Mark is the father of beth's baby.

The rest of my far fetched threesome/ gay lover theories can be found elsewhere.

I don't actually have a clue but haven't looked forward to a conclusion of a TV programme this much for years!!

Ikeameatballs Sat 20-Apr-13 21:05:12

So Danny saw Joe and Nige shagging, Joe killed him and Nige moved the body? Can't remember if that fits with the alibis ec.

Or Steve found the body somewhere else and moved it (because he wants to get involved)....finding out where he moved it from would help to identify the killer??

howshouldibehave Sat 20-Apr-13 21:57:37

What if Joe and Roryvicar were having an affair? Danny saw them at it. whilst out poaching and Joe was worried he'd tell Tom so killed him?

WreckfestAtTiffanys Sun 21-Apr-13 01:40:06

It's ok I think those late night texts were from earlier- possibly the paintball time, rather than the murder night? I made the same mistake and someone sharper eyed than me on here told me.
<may be confused>

BrianCoxandTheTempleofDOOM Sun 21-Apr-13 02:53:26

Ive been convinced of a gay affair involving the vicar for a while

my question:

psychic said to DT "you've been here before, I'm right aren't i?"

Is this suggesting he is involved? or am I reading far too much into it?.grin

yellowhousewithareddoor Sun 21-Apr-13 06:38:25

Signing in. Theory of the day changes like the wind. The next 36 or so hours is going to seem so long!

Fiderer Sun 21-Apr-13 07:56:35

Strangling someone though, particularly a child facing you - takes strength yes, but also great anger (or fear?) and determination.

What did Danny know? Is the key question and what did the killer have to lose by his knowing?

Am stating the obvious now grin

DT was afraid of the sea, might have something to do with psychic Steve's comment about his having been there before. When they went out to Mark's boat he told Ellie he didn't like being on the water.

Prob nothing to do with the story but at least it's not a question.

MrsSalvoMontalbano Sun 21-Apr-13 09:53:37

Singing in!

googling post office vans? I salute your commitment to the cause!

me too! And people with spreadsheets.... So impressed and grateful!

landrover Sun 21-Apr-13 13:37:36

I have an interesting thought! What if Susan WAS involved in her husband/daughter abuse as was suggested (child taken off her!) And met Danny that night, killed him (dont know why though), then sat smoking the 4 cigarettes (weird). Took his skateboard. We only have her evidence that a boat brought him in? And the neighbour alibi only saw her sat in caravan at one!

JakeBullet Sun 21-Apr-13 13:45:16

Ooh adding myself to this thread in preparation for tomorrow night smile

pancakedays Sun 21-Apr-13 14:36:36

My ramblings -
In the previous case for DT, he took the blame for his wife's mistake to protect their daughter.
I think Ellie will be in the same position at the end of this case in trying to protect her son Tom as I think he was involved.
I also think Joe or vicar have had a relationship or possibly one of them with Beth?
Maybe Danny was blackmailing one of the men, hence the money under the bed? Or the money could be frim the poaching.
I think Joe placed Danny's body on the beach, and hid the phone at the newsagents. Maybe he knew the newsagent's past and wanted to frame him?

pancakedays Sun 21-Apr-13 14:38:19

Also think Steve the psychic is dodgy!

gillywillywoo Sun 21-Apr-13 14:41:42

<finds a place in thread and gets comfy>

I can't wait to watch it tomorrow night! Ahhhhhhhhhh!!! smile

Primrose123 Sun 21-Apr-13 14:53:16

The thing about the post office vans, sometimes our postman parks his Royal Mail van in the street, and sometimes we have a different postman, and he parks his own car in the street. So that red van, if it was unmarked, could be his own van, so he could still be a postman.

Phew. Does that make sense?

ItsOkayItsJustMyBreath Sun 21-Apr-13 16:41:39

Primrose my step dad is a postie and uses his own car sometimes but the one in BC wasn't placed in a strategic place for delivery iyswim.

I am still trying to come to a theory I believe in but had a dream about it last night where Steve was revealed as a serial killer.

*Note to self to stop watching so many murder mysteries.

ohmygoshandgolly Sun 21-Apr-13 20:06:10

Can I just pop in here to say that I have loved the Broadchurch threads on here almost as much as the actual programme.

You are all brilliant with your theories and I am already looking forward to your debrief after tomorrow's final episode!

BrianCoxandTheTempleofDOOM Sun 21-Apr-13 20:39:28

anybody else thinking DTs daughter is dead - hence constant voicemail?

MikeLitoris Sun 21-Apr-13 20:46:20

Thats what I was coming on to post brian

I dont have a theory on the killer but I am ruling out Joe and Tom. It isnt either of them.

mrdarceych Sun 21-Apr-13 20:56:58

Cant wait to see it!

Asinine Sun 21-Apr-13 21:07:09

I'm convinced it is the vicar. He knew the newsagent was innocen

Asinine Sun 21-Apr-13 21:08:06

Oops, posted by mistake, anyway I dreamt it was the vicar, so I must be right?

HomeEcoGnomist Sun 21-Apr-13 21:14:10

Re the vicar 'knowing' Jack was innocent...I thought that was just normal vicar-ish behaviour ie everyone is innocent till proven guilty?

ohforfoxsake Sun 21-Apr-13 21:18:00

Was DTs daughter the victim in the First murder - and that was his involvement - not that he was the policeman on the case which we have been led to assume. And that the woman who met Beth was his wife?

And that the psychic is the murderer who got away with it and is stalking DT.

Or is it that I am coming up with too many far-out theories to cover all probabilities?

Hmm, curiouser and curiouser. wink

BrianCoxandTheTempleofDOOM Sun 21-Apr-13 21:23:27

shock foxsake - if it isn't that then it bloomin should be!

Ikeameatballs Sun 21-Apr-13 21:35:59

Hmmm,

I think we know that DT was the detective in the Sandbrook case but could be wrong. If not I like your thinking foxsake.

Arisbottle Sun 21-Apr-13 21:37:05

I think Ellie's son is involved, when she interviewed Susan she said " I am a mother and I would do anything to protect my son" . I think she will have to and DT will once again be compromised by his staff.

BrianCoxandTheTempleofDOOM Sun 21-Apr-13 21:38:05

I picked up on that too!

bananananacoconuts Sun 21-Apr-13 21:38:32

I have read broadchurch thread and think tomorrow will be all the more exciting for the different theories! Think we need some "i solved the broadchurch murders" for those who are correct!

I either think will mellor did it and also was somehow responsible for sandbrook which is how he knows so much but is using his (pretend) psychic powers to avoid suspicion

I also think it could've been susan. Who killed her first child out of jealousy when she found her in bed with her husband - possibly in whitby! Then found daughter 2 in sandbrook and finally cAme to kill nigel but got danny by mistake while they were poaching and is now trying to frame nigel

Far fetched i know!

Ooh unless she is beths real mum and she killed danny to protect him (as she said about nigel "he's his fathers son" so he'd be his grandfathers boy and she'll have stopped the link there.

Seriously need it to be 9pm tomorrow!

BOF Sun 21-Apr-13 21:39:43

Signing in.

My theory is Joe, arranging a meeting between the boys. Tom didn't go, Danny was blackmailing Joe for a gay affair with the vicar or some dodgy computer stuff. But the more I think about it, the less any of it makes sense.

Right, back to the old thread for now. One more sleep!

RhondaJean Sun 21-Apr-13 21:55:00

I think the sister did it.

I have no basis at all for this except picking the least likely candidate.

MrsShrek3 Sun 21-Apr-13 21:59:57

<bookmarking>

I have no theories but have greatly enjoyed the threads on here!

My only worry is that it will be either like and agatha christie reveal where some big clue is put in at the reveal, always used to piss me off and the reason I didn't read many agatha christies!

Or, that there will be one of those 'twists' that leaves you thinking 'wtf'.

I do think its got something to do with Ellies husband though but no idea how. I will be very sad when its over, I have enjoyed my little sit down time on a Monday evening and will have to go back to doing all the washing up and packed lunches now!

Pendipidy Sun 21-Apr-13 23:06:48

I like all the theories! My dh knows the actor who plays Nige and he won't give anything away!

bananananacoconuts Sun 21-Apr-13 23:12:09

How very selfish of him Pendipidy!

Well presumably the killer has to be a main character.

So

Mark
Joe
Tom
Olly
Vicar (Paul)
Steve
Nige
Dean

Tbh I haven't got a clue

Someone with big hands who Danny arranged to meet in the middle of the night.

Good job I'm not a detectivegrin

pancakedays Mon 22-Apr-13 00:18:05

In one of the earlier episodes, Ellie was asked out by the pathologist (think that is what he was)
She told DT, and was shocked as he knew she was married.
I reckon that Joe was having an affair with Beth or vicar. Maybe this pathologist had seen him, assumed they were separated, swingers/open marriage.
Clutching at straws now! Not long to wait.

PuffPants Mon 22-Apr-13 03:49:27

Agree, the SOCO asking her out scene was a bit random. I was wondering at the time how that would fit into the plot.

Fiderer Mon 22-Apr-13 07:52:34

pancake - shock never occurred to me, but as Puff said, it was random and is another RH or Clue.

Think Beth is innocent. And Ellie. And DT. And Olly.

And Paul the vicar - he could have dumped Tom's laptop or damaged it beyond data recovery if he were up to no good.

DonkeysDontRideBicycles Mon 22-Apr-13 08:43:41

Hope it won't turn out to be Kevin the postman or an even more obscure character! Eg On the way to the morgue to id Danny, Ellie and Mark bumped into a mate selling something. He might be the same man who buttonholed Ellie when she nipped over to a cafe to see Joe and Tom and DS2.

Still choosing between Ollie, Paul and Steve. On the basis Tom is really agitated about this I am inclined to dismiss Steve though he seems the creepiest. Which brings us back to Nige. Aaaargh!

Fragglewump Mon 22-Apr-13 08:58:52

I think it was Danny's sister - possibly with the help of her boyfriend? I think one of the texts that Tom deleted said "they are having sex". I think Danny found out about sex and drugs and threatened to tell. That's why money was in his room as they tried to bribe him. He threatened to tell again so they shut him up!

DonkeysDontRideBicycles Mon 22-Apr-13 09:04:15

Chloe?! hadn't considered her, Fraggle!

Fragglewump Mon 22-Apr-13 09:09:04

Yup it was Chloe! (Maybe?)

fruitstick Mon 22-Apr-13 09:12:48

That would fit with the whole 'Jude the Obscure' thing, but I can't see it as a motive.

She has behaved a bit strangely though v

I'm still on other thread till tonight....

part of me thinks it was Mark. Don't actually know why.

My other theory of Joe / Vicar love affair is still appealing.

Empress77 Mon 22-Apr-13 09:24:35

Im becoming less worried about who killed Danny & more concerned about the plight of DT. Please pleeeease dont let him die! I hope the big twist is that he survives-and after the breakdown of Ellies family when Joe & Toms parts in Dannys death area revealed then DT & Ellie get together at the end-ready for a next series where they are in love and still fighting crime.

I like the theory about the vicar seeing what was all going on-thereby probably knowing jack was innocent-and it will all unravel & although Ellies family wont be the killers there will be alot revealed that will shock her (and hopefully make her turn to DT).

Hopefully it will be the physic who actually did it though as I dont like him.

Asheth Mon 22-Apr-13 11:08:10

Just signing in for tonight. I'll be checking in during the adverts!

Don't really have a theory. But don't want it to be Joe, because it's meant to be a big shock and he seems to be the favourite suspect at the moment!

So Paul or Tom is my best guess, but no idea why!

I haven't read the whole thread yet, but I'm wondering if Joe, the vicar and Nigel abused Danny. Perhaps Ollie was abused too when he was younger. Tom found out and is confused about his father.

Joe and vicar affair is also another possibility.

Either that or it was Pauline Quirke's dog what dunnit.

ItsOkayItsJustMyBreath Mon 22-Apr-13 11:26:10

I wonder if Nancy66 is around and if she's seen the last episode?

<sounds a very large klaxon>

OrlaKiely Mon 22-Apr-13 11:35:35

Only 29 people know apparently - cast and crew for the last episode. So Nance won't know.

OrlaKiely Mon 22-Apr-13 11:36:16

WHY isn't Nige in the cast line up/big picture thingy? And who is in the tent, because Nigel hasn't got that much hair.

magentastardust Mon 22-Apr-13 11:57:37

I just worry we are going to be disappointed , they can't answer all of our questions in 60 mins!

I don't think it was SOCO -that was put in to show the growing relationship and banter between Ellie and Alex.

I still maintain Ellie's sister is involved , she is definitely a link to something. Also it is strange that they keep showing the postman row -so that must be significant.

If the vicar was up to anything to do with Danny or Tom I'm not sure he would willingly hand over Tom's laptop to Alex ?

We know Jacks Story, we know Pauline Quirkes story and we know Niges story (although more details to come out about paintballing, poaching etc)
We know the vicars story (AA)
We know Marks story (affair with Becca)

Chloe and her boyf were in the first couple of episodes and have taken a back seat for a few episodes -maybe to be central again? There were drugs etc involvement there.
We haven't really had much of a background from Ollie yet , again this is maybe where his mum comes into the picture.
Joe has been always in the background too but not sure if that is a bit obvious as we have all been suspicious of him for a few weeks.
Tom obviously is involved in seeing something or is maybe worried that something he did made it his fault .

I think it was Fred the baby who I thought was actually a girl.

Thurlow Mon 22-Apr-13 12:26:09

I agree, magenta. I love most of the theories put forward but they're just too complicated to wrap up in 60 minutes, plus the fall-out, focusing on how Danny's family react, DT living or dying please let him live etc.

I think that the emails/files on Danny's computer have answered the whodunnit, but that a lot of the rest of the info is just extraneous. It's been a big, wide programme which to me has been more about the secrets that people keep than anything else. So DT had a secret about his last case, PQ had a secret about Nige, the vicar had a secret about his alcoholism, Jack had a secret about his wife, Joe has a secret about taking the kids out poaching, Mark had a secret about his affair, Beth had a secret about being pregnant - but most of them just don't relate to Danny's murder. The show has been more about looking at the wider picture of one town and how everyone relates to everyone else.

Also, I think it will be like the first series of The Killing. So many suspects that whoever turns out to have done it will almost be a disappointment!

I`m in, I still think its a collective, apart from Danny`s Mother, I think Joe, Nige, Vicar and father are all in it together, one done it and the others are covering! (Ok, I know its not really plausible) but its the best I can come up with grin Have loved this though, and will be really disappointed tonight when its over.

LadyClariceCannockMonty Mon 22-Apr-13 12:51:59

Signing in!

I have nothing much to add, but I'm sure Pauline Q's character has something dodgy going on. She threatened the newspaper woman with 'men who could rape you' and seemed then like a truly nasty piece of work. I don't think her current stance, as innocent bystander of her husband's abuse and incest, rings true. I'm very confused about the relationship between her and Nige though.

I think Joe will turn out to have something to do with it, although maybe not be the direct killer. He's been deliberately kept in the background and not hauled over the coals like so many of the other characters have. They are keeping something back about him to reveal tonight.

Can't WAIT!

nipersvest Mon 22-Apr-13 12:54:22

the producer is quoted as saying you need to watch right up to the end of the end credits for it to fully be revealed. last minute twist to the story??

Signing in.

Right up to the credits nipersvest?? I'll have passed out by then!

I feel it's to do with Chloe and Bf, they're linked somehow. Hence the happy room he made for her. May not have done it but they're linked maybe.

Could be anyone. That's what's so good about it, I usually have an inkling with thrillers but not much here.

hereshecomesnowsayingyoniyoni Mon 22-Apr-13 13:47:31

i think it was ellies husband
don't know why just have a feeling

Empress77 Mon 22-Apr-13 13:57:44

I am very suspicious of soco Brian. Hes got control over all the evidence.

I don't understand how it could be SOCO Brian. He has been a fringe character and I haven't any emotional link to him at all & to make a twist a good one, then the viewers have to of formed some sort of attachment (love or hate).

MustTidyUpMustTidyUp Mon 22-Apr-13 14:41:28

I have absolutely no useful theories at all. Shamelessly marking place.

bananananacoconuts Mon 22-Apr-13 14:50:02

Just had another thought! I was originally going for steve or susan but tonights synopsis says that shockwaves ripple through Broadchurch as the community struggles to come to terms with the news.

So it can't be Steve or Susan if they aren't really in the bosom of the community!

Soooooo it's Joe, no chloe's boyfriend, no the vicar, no joe

I could go on til 9.55pm!

sassymuffin Mon 22-Apr-13 14:55:16

I know this is not a theory but I am having a quick look at the first episode and when Mark Latimer is walking through town before he finds out Danny has been killed he is happily greeting lots of people.... and who should be strolling into the newspaper offices in full phone engineer uniform but Steve the psychic! Mark even greets him with the phrase 'lovely morning for it' I wonder if this is relevant.... the suspense is driving me potty.

DonkeysDontRideBicycles Mon 22-Apr-13 14:55:23

How about Paul the vicar fancied Becca, he kills Danny out of spite, <runs out of steam>.

bananananacoconuts Mon 22-Apr-13 14:57:34

Oh no sassymuffin! Now i think steve is part of the community which means it could be him!

Six hours to go! <far too excited>

WreckfestAtTiffanys Mon 22-Apr-13 15:27:44

Right up the the end of the end credits??

I hope it's not going to be an 'or is it?' moment

custardsky Mon 22-Apr-13 15:36:17

Can't wait for tonight! No strong inkling/theory myself, love reading everyone's here though!

teejwood Mon 22-Apr-13 15:48:39

Thanks for starting the thread, fruitstick. Marking my place for later smile

Final predictions:
Swimming against the tide here, but I still think it will have been Nige. He's very focused on how he can make money because working for Mark isn't that great a moneyspinner, so what else has he been up to - in addition to the poaching/diesel theft? Also - he pinched the diesel for the van the night before - so why was he so late the next morning, when Mark himself was running late? I can't get over the fact that he offered Susan £500 to get lost when that also is the amount that Danny had hidden in his room. Was that their "cut" from something they had been doing or was Danny hiding the money for Nige? There seems to be a hint they came about the money in the same way.

I think he killed Danny in a fit of anger. Perhaps Danny found out that Nige knew about his dad and Becca. Danny was going to confront his dad about the affair, but that would have let the cat out of the bag that Nige had blabbed to Danny. Nige doesn't want to lose his job, so he begs Danny to keep quiet. Danny, incensed, insists that he is going to tell and Nige loses his temper and kills him.

It may transpire that Susan cleaned up a lot of the evidence to help Nige.

The scene with the postman will return. In that scene the postman seems to look around while he and Danny are arguing, almost as if he's waiting for someone else to turn up? Maybe there was a drugs ring and Danny was the perfect mule on his paper round?

Ellie may find out some uncomfortable truths about Joe/Tom. Perhaps Mark isn't the first married man Becca has had a dalliance with?

Interesting that they are promising us some sort of surprise at the end. I think it might be:
a) DT keels over and we are left not knowing whether he lives or dies
b) the wrong person will have confessed to the crime in order to protect someone else and we will get a glance from the real killer at the end, showing that Hardy still can't get his man
OR - and I think this really might be it:
c) Danny's murder is resolved in exactly the right way, but we cut to Steve, sitting playing with a pendant in his hand - the pendant from Sandbrook. He shoots a chilling look at the camera, and we fade to black.
<phew>

Empress77 Mon 22-Apr-13 15:54:21

oh no, I really hope Hardy does get his man. And lives to celebrate it. I will actually cry if not.
yes, id accept an ending pointing to the killer in sandbrook being caught (after Dannys is caught)- ready for series two with DT & OC. That would be good.

Asheth Mon 22-Apr-13 15:56:52

I like the sound of option c! If it's a twist about the Broadchurch killer it means we wont see how it affects the families or that the wrong person has been arrested.

magentastardust Mon 22-Apr-13 16:23:43

I don't think we will get a series 2 sadly-It was written as a one of and they didn't realise how popular it would be so we could well lose DT and any of Ellie's family (or Ellie!) could be involved as I don't think the writers needed to save them for a second series sad

Lots of people still mentioning Susan, did she not walk away at the end with her suitcase and dog last week (I'm not sure how realistic that actually is that she would be allowed to go but I think it signified the end of her part in it?

What about arsey female reporter -will she make a return?

Will Alex be reunited with his daughter?

I agree that maybe more of the phone engineer story with Will Mellor.

Oooh it is all exciting!

Chippychop Mon 22-Apr-13 16:25:41

Unashamedly marking place as I've skived out of a meeting tonight to stay inwink

FoundAChopinLizt Mon 22-Apr-13 16:30:10

I have no supporting theory but am certain it's the vicar. Mainly because he has insomnia. good thing I'm not in CID

ComposHat Mon 22-Apr-13 16:30:39

Another q - do Royal Mail vans still have a logo? I re-watched the scene with Danny fighting the "postman" and it was just a red van without markings

It may be that Royal Mail didn't allow their vans to be used - the film 'Looking for Eric' had red logo-less vans with a yellow stripe in lieu of real post vans.

Well observed though.

Chipstick10 Mon 22-Apr-13 16:36:56

I think DT daughter is dead. He never gets through to her, he leaves messages. Maybe he can't accept she's gone.
I thi k the killer may be ollie. Was convinced it was joe but I'm swaying toward ollie. We never got a conclusion when his mum told Ellie she knew something.

OrlaKiely Mon 22-Apr-13 16:39:25

I'm going to have to be very careful logging in tomorrow, as I shan't have a chance to watch it till the morning...no spoilers in titles please! (or I could just avoid MN till I've seen it)

MrsReiver Mon 22-Apr-13 16:39:46

I think Ellie's husband did it too, I think Danny was bullying Tom and that's what was on the computer and the text messages.

montage Mon 22-Apr-13 16:54:43

If, like me, you live in an area where ITV player doesn't work, you really need to make sure you haven't got a manual "9-10 mondays ITV1" record set for tonight. Imagine missing the last 5 minutes!

sassymuffin Mon 22-Apr-13 16:57:08

Don't worry bananananacoconuts just flicked through episode 2 and it appears psychic Steve is not a member of the community after all. When he was being initially interviewed he stated he lived about 30 miles away from Broadchurch but he covers the 'whole region' for his company. Hmmm where about in the country was the 'Sandbrook' case

MarinaIvy Mon 22-Apr-13 17:01:00

I'm in. Phone will be unplugged and Daddy, who's caught up more than he's willing to admit, will be on Bairn-wrangling duty.

I agree that it's probably not child abuse. And that something will make Ellie eat her "how could you not know what's going on in your own home" words.

I wonder if DT is going to die before he gets to show anybody the evidence? And that it'll fall to Ellie to do it (or not, hmmmm)...

Enjoy! Oooh this is delicious.

SomewhereInTheMiddle Mon 22-Apr-13 17:01:29

I've posted this on other threads too, but for anyone who missed it this article says that Ollie's mum Lucy (Ellie's sister) will be part of the big reveal tonight, and that she did know something (as she said to Ellie).

ZZZenagain Mon 22-Apr-13 17:02:23

you are very good teejwood. I like b and c.

montage Mon 22-Apr-13 17:08:03

I'm still picturing Ellie failing to call for help as DT collapses since she knows he's onto something that will destroy her world.

Or else DT getting wheeled into the surgery that he said he may not survive if they want to hedge their bets for a season 2.

WreckfestAtTiffanys Mon 22-Apr-13 17:09:15

Ooo, a titbit Somewhere, I'm sure it's something to do with Ollie, I can't get out of my head that he has got away too lightly with his involvement in Jack's death.

montage Mon 22-Apr-13 17:10:27

ITV and the cast/crew have done so well keeping things under wraps - that actresses comments are the only thing even resembling a spoiler that I've seen.

MrsSalvoMontalbano Mon 22-Apr-13 17:22:57

teej you are good! So impressed with the detection antennae of people on these threads. Would love there to be avseries 2, but I did with Life on Mars,a nd Ashes to Ashrs was nowhere near as good sad so prob best to go out on a high...

Orenishii Mon 22-Apr-13 17:24:36

I am gutted - GUTTED - I misses the first two episodes and I'm on stupid BT, and they only have catch ups up to a couple of weeks ago. SOB.

ItsOkayItsJustMyBreath Mon 22-Apr-13 17:38:29

Orenishii The episodes are on DailyMotion smile

Okay, I like your thinking SomewhereInTheMiddle, I agree that Lucy has a part to play in this somewhere and could be the part that makes Ellie realise you don't always know what's happening in your own family.

Big Question of today

Why was Danny's skateboard next to the body?

1) If he was taken off of the boat then why bother to take it with you?

2) If he was carried there, why take it with you?

3) Why did Elaine/Susan take it?

I'm running out of time but I think Lucy and Paul are linked (maybe through AA). Whoever the killer is has Danny's phone and the messages Tom deleted weren't from Danny but the killer and Tom is too scared to tell anyone because he's been threatened (and maybe the threat was reiterated at the funeral by Paul?).

As for the motive, still unsure.

I am beside myself today, can't wait to find out but don't want to know either. Dammit, I can't see there being another series as it's so localised but as it's been so popular and it's ITV they may try another one in another town.

jumperooo Mon 22-Apr-13 17:40:45
ItsOkayItsJustMyBreath Mon 22-Apr-13 18:01:28

HUGE SPOILER ALERT

HERE








grin

Empress77 Mon 22-Apr-13 18:05:54

Oh pleease let them do a second series. With DT. Even if theyve foolishly killed him off for this one I will live in hope that they will let him regenerate time lord style (but sill be DT).

FartAtTheMaddingCrowd Mon 22-Apr-13 18:16:36

No idea of the motive but I think it's Mark. He still has some unaccounted for time on the night of the murder I think. Also when Nige was arrested he phoned Mark and didn't he say something like, 'just stick to your story'. Also Mark doesn't seem as upset about Danny's death as Beth is.

FartAtTheMaddingCrowd Mon 22-Apr-13 18:17:10

Also agree with whoever said that DT's daughter is dead.

yellowhousewithareddoor Mon 22-Apr-13 18:17:40

I suspect that once its finished we're going to want to watch it all again . . .

yellowhousewithareddoor Mon 22-Apr-13 18:18:37

I suspect that once its finished we're going to want to watch it all again . . .

magentastardust Mon 22-Apr-13 18:24:12

Yes I thought that about DT's daughter too today-he keeps getting her voice mail but she never calls and when he had his flash back the other week of children on the beach-one was Danny, was another one his dd?

SomewhereInTheMiddle Mon 22-Apr-13 18:28:49

I'm running out of time but I think Lucy and Paul are linked maybe through AA.

Okay that just made me gasp - I didn't suspect the vicar at all, but you just might be on to something there. She's got alcohol issues, hasn't she, and we know that she's going to have some key information...

SomewhereInTheMiddle Mon 22-Apr-13 18:31:03

jumper that's on the Huffpost site too. wink

OrlaKiely Mon 22-Apr-13 18:32:00

Ah. Brilliant theory about the phone messages - they couldn't have been from Danny, as he was dead by then so they were from the killer to Tom.

Of course!

So Tom does know who it was.

OrlaKiely Mon 22-Apr-13 18:33:44

Regard to the skateboard,

do we know it was with his body? Only from Susan. So say she didn't find it with his body - but someone gave it to her, or she found it at the hut, maybe Danny was going to the hut on his skateboard that night and that's how she came by it.

Georgetta Mon 22-Apr-13 18:35:18

OK EVERYBODY LISTEN UP! JUST LISTENING TO A TV REVIEW ON THE RADIO OF TONIGHTS FINALE AND THE MESSAGE FROM THE PRODUCERS IS-WATCH TO THE VERY END OF THE CREDITS! YOU HAVE ALL BEEN WARNED[GRIN].

Georgetta Mon 22-Apr-13 18:37:04

Oops ,someones beaten me to itblush.

OrlaKiely Mon 22-Apr-13 18:39:42

What else did they say Georgette?

OrlaKiely Mon 22-Apr-13 18:39:51

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AvonCallingBarksdale Mon 22-Apr-13 18:43:22

I. Cannot. Wait. For. Tonight. grin

DinoSnores Mon 22-Apr-13 18:44:06

Oh, I am so excited. I am going to take all the Broadchurch threads off my Threads I'm Watching now though. We don't have a TV but I will be grabbing the laptop as early as I can tomorrow morning and watching it as I feed DD2! I don't want to see any clues overnight though so will have to hang out in Good housekeeping or something overnight for the night feeds!

Georgetta Mon 22-Apr-13 18:48:35

That was it really-just 'dont miss the finale and watch to end of the credits'.confused.I cant wait-so excited here!

LillianGish Mon 22-Apr-13 18:49:35

I reiterate a previous poster who said they were enjoying this thread as much as the show!
Can someone remind me about Ellie's sister - have watched religiously, but can't remember her blush.
My money is on Ellie's son or husband (or some combination of the two) - purely on the basis that they have not yet fallen under suspicion and on the basis of her comments to Susan (though this could perhaps also apply to her sister - please remind me!)
Why if Danny was killed in the hut he was then transported by boat to be laid on the beach. Why not just lob his body over the cliff? Or get rid of his body in a secret location?
Who called police on Danny's phone and was then chased from the hut? Why go back to the hut? Who does the hut belong to?
My feeling is anyone who looks overly suspicious - Susan, cross-bow man, the shifty vicar - is probably a red herring!

notheroldie Mon 22-Apr-13 18:55:45

Blimey what an amazing lot of theories!

I have nothing to add. sorry!

Intrigued about the AA Paul and sister theory.... good one. And Tom joe are still in it I reckon.
I CAN'T WAIT smile smile

tartiflette Mon 22-Apr-13 19:07:34

A friend's brother is in the series (not saying who for fear of outing myself!) but she tells me there will be a second series based on the court case.

Which is making me worry it won't be fully resolved tonight...

What are we all snacking on? I've got an unopened box of chocolates especially for tonight.

ItsOkayItsJustMyBreath Mon 22-Apr-13 19:13:29

Right, still running with my Lucy and Paul theory. Could he have been her AA buddy? Maybe he will take the blame but in a twist at the end, Ellie will realise her sister was involved?

Speaking to DM about it and she says maybe Danny found the £500 when cleaning for Susan/ Elaine in the empty hut (and left his skateboard there). The coroner mentioned he had cleaning fluid on him when the body was found. However, this could be to get rid of the diesel that might link him to Nige. I don't buy this quite but thought I'd throw it in here!

intheshed Mon 22-Apr-13 19:14:07

Signing in for tonight, obsessive lurker here grin I think the vicar did it!

Also, I rewatched episodes 1 and 2 the other night and Olly mentioned a blown fuse at the newspaper office, which made me think maybe it's all something to do with Steve the phone guy? As he was also (I think) walking into the newspaper office in the morning of the first episode.

ItsOkayItsJustMyBreath Mon 22-Apr-13 19:14:32

tartiflette shock shock shock

<weeps pathetic tears of joy>

Jossysgiants Mon 22-Apr-13 19:15:05

I don't think I have ever been so excited for a tv programme. I am missing my book group because I can't bear to delay finding out by a minute. Wavering madly on who I think it is. Sticking with Ollie as he was my first guess deduction.

Only 105 minutes to go!!!

tartiflette Mon 22-Apr-13 19:38:02

grin ItsOkay

Was Danny's body wet when they found it, I can't remember?

<formulates wild last minute theory>

Badgers I'm going to relax my diet to have hot buttery toast, yum! Would prefer a box of chocs though. envy

I hope Alex doesn't die......

OrlaKiely Mon 22-Apr-13 19:39:19

How can you EAT?!! grin

<frets>

montage Mon 22-Apr-13 19:39:51

I can focus on nothing but clockwatching for Broadchurch

Tee2072 Mon 22-Apr-13 19:45:24

I have no theory. I'm just marking my place.

I actually only started watching about 3 weeks ago. I find it's the best way with these things.

grin

AViewFromTheFridge Mon 22-Apr-13 19:47:26

Apparently we will know by ten past nine who the murderer is...

notjustamummythankyou Mon 22-Apr-13 19:48:41

Delurking here. As I think someone else mentioned, I have enjoyed this thread as much as the programme itself! I'm seriously impressed by the detective work you lot have gone through.

Heard on a trailer for tonight's final that only 29 people know how all this ends. I cannot wait to find out!

Bucket of tea and lots of toast for sustenance here too. Simply hoping that dh makes it back from work on time - his train is running late!

Oh my god, 9.10pm, really? So that makes me think, as someone else said, they will get the wrong person and we won't know who it really was until the end.

Iasked this a few days back but no one replied.
Please please someone answer otherwise I have a hole in my knowledge for the final!!!
Who is ollie, is he the young journalist? I thought his mum was the newspaper owner. Was it her that turned up at ellies saying she had info? If not then is the newspaper lady related to anyone and does journo just work for her?
Btw just realised newspaper owner lady is one of the characters that we have not learned any secrets about...

Jossysgiants Mon 22-Apr-13 19:55:04

Ollie is the journalist. His mum isn't the newspaper owner- she has only been in it once . I think she is called Lucy.

Ollie is the young journalist, his Mum, Lucy, is Ellie's sister. Lucy has some info she hasn't shared yet.....

X post!

hollyisalovelyname Mon 22-Apr-13 19:58:45

I hope it won't be like that other detective series Mayday. Really obvious who the murderer was. Crappy ending. I think it's the same production company

Thanks for the speedy replies I was worried id have to wait another hour and watch it on itv plus one leaving no time for mumsnet thread catchup before bedtime :-)

ItsOkayItsJustMyBreath Mon 22-Apr-13 19:59:24

Where are MadBusLady, SarahFuck and ErrorError?

I am so restless, got the university challenge semi to keep me occupied for half an hour but keep going out for a cigarette pacing grin

I have not been this excited about a tv show since the original Cracker and Prime Suspect.
I have ribena and crisps ready and the woodburner is on near my tv sofa.

I love how we're planning snacks! It is exciting though.

DuelingFanjo Mon 22-Apr-13 20:06:55

Just posting to say I think it'll be Mark.
I don't want to miss the action so will post during the breaks.

MikeLitoris Mon 22-Apr-13 20:07:38

I'm signing in.

Got my chocs ready.

Ds is watching with me. He loves it.

No theory but I will throw the remote at the tv if its Joe or Tom Miller.

MikeLitoris Mon 22-Apr-13 20:08:50

Oh yes I wont be posting until the ads
Dont want to miss anything.

BaconAndAvocado Mon 22-Apr-13 20:10:24

Good telly is all about the snacks!!

Got my enormous cup of tea and yoghurt duo ready and waiting!! (God, this diet's rubbish)

I also think its Ellie's husband and son at the bottom of it.....

Finbar Mon 22-Apr-13 20:12:46

Delurking to add my bit tha MAY BE SIGNIFCANT....

the theme song played the end is called "So Close"

(taps nose !)

magentastardust Mon 22-Apr-13 20:14:50

Maybe we have to watch until the very end of the credits as there is going to be a hilarious blooper section?

God this is ridiculous, I felt like this when I went into labour last Summer..... <bangs head to remind self it is just a tv show>

MrsSalvoMontalbano Mon 22-Apr-13 20:16:41

DH has gone to Tesco for snacks for me, as I am busy sorting kids so as to be done by 8.59pm he is bemused by all this, but humouring me (he does not watch it, too late now to catch up)

Blondeshavemorefun Mon 22-Apr-13 20:16:52

A 2nd series???

9.10pm and we will finally know

As I said either JO or the vicar

I won't be watching till about 40mins later as working - so will ignore this thread till see ending

And no doubt read 400+ comments smile

racingheart Mon 22-Apr-13 20:22:01

DH says it's the psychic.
I say it's Ollie the reporter.

I am so excited -got my wine ready. Usually watch it next day as Dh doesn't watch it, but he is banished upstairs so I can watch it live. I don't want any spoilers! Roll on 9.

Oh I think it's Oliie or Eliies hubbie,

The psychic seemed genuine to me (bad judge of character).

Ollie hasn't had a secret revealed, but what motive would he have....although he may know more about why Danny was murdered, however, he is desperate to be a 'real' reporter so if he knew something, then he would use it to get a big story wouldn't he. (I think)

I am still leaning with the posters who first came up with the theories re Joe and the Vicar having a relationship.....or along with Nigel are part of a child abuse ring (and if that's the case possibly Ollie was abused too).

teejwood Mon 22-Apr-13 20:30:59

A second series to cover the court case - god, that would be an even tougher watch than this has been. The murderer(s)' motives and background unearthed, Danny's family's faultlines exposed, the defence brief trying to get the murderer off and shift the blame onto someone else <shudder>
It's a good idea, though.

teejwood Mon 22-Apr-13 20:31:14

30 mins to go...

montage Mon 22-Apr-13 20:32:41

Oh God if they kill off David Tennant after the end credits....

It will probably be a hammer blow to change everything we now think we understand. Maybe an actual flashback

ItsOkayItsJustMyBreath Mon 22-Apr-13 20:34:09

magentastardust I may have pushed my pelvic floor to its limit at the thought of the outtake section being the reason we need to watch to the end!!! grin

flatmum Mon 22-Apr-13 20:34:36

It's one of the reporters I tell you!

That's what I'm worried about, I can see it happening, it's been building towards it. I don't want him to die. sad

gillywillywoo Mon 22-Apr-13 20:37:46

Finished work at 7pm (urrhhhhh)... Traffic meant I got home at 8pm.

Pjs on.. DH is making a late dinner and we are very excited about broadchurch in 25 mins!!!!!!!!!!

<too much info alert> we are trying to conceive baby number 1 and I think I'm finally ovulating NOW (dodgy cycles after coming off the pill... ) but I dont care... I want to watch broadchurch and then go to sleep thinking about it all grin

gillywillywoo Mon 22-Apr-13 20:38:42

If they kill off David tenant I don't know what I will do!!!!!! blushangry

teejwood Mon 22-Apr-13 20:38:53

Actually, if they are planning a second series to cover the court case that would make an outcome of "wrong man/woman nicked and real killer revealed at the end" quite logical, because then the court case would be focused on how to prove the innocence of a person who has been wrongly charged, and perhaps reveal the real killer - a bit like Perry Mason...

grin at gilly!

Jossysgiants Mon 22-Apr-13 20:40:34

Sticking with Ollie as my first instinct but it doesn't fit with psychic Steve and the ' so close' song... Suspect no 2 is Ellie and number 3 Chloe.

I am convinced there is a dark secret from the paintball weekend which is being covered up.

So excited....

tartiflette Mon 22-Apr-13 20:41:52

God I'm properly nervous grin

Don't think DT will die

BOF Mon 22-Apr-13 20:41:58

Gillywilly grin

<paces>

I think I may have to go and pop my toast in, I'm fidgeting like mad

hereshecomesnowsayingyoniyoni Mon 22-Apr-13 20:43:28

i've made a coconut cake to have a couple of slices of with a pot of tea
got my pj's on too and dd's gone to bed,dh is working away so will hopefully be able to watch it without interruptions

JakeBullet Mon 22-Apr-13 20:45:40

I have my wine at the ready grin

JakeBullet Mon 22-Apr-13 20:46:27

NO not Ellie, please not Elle, she is lovely. I will cry if it's her..grin

fruitstick Mon 22-Apr-13 20:48:11

Eyes down for a full house grin

I am actually going round to a friends house to watch but shall sneakily check in whilst she fetches more wine.

bluebump Mon 22-Apr-13 20:49:00

15 mins to go and small child is STILL NOT ASLEEP! Aargh.

Loving all of the theories here!

late joiner.... my theory since episode 1 is that Ellie's son did it, by accident, and his dad helped get rid of the body/ cover it up. So hope I'm wrong otherwise a waste of all this time!

notheroldie Mon 22-Apr-13 20:52:27

LILO good theory....

MonstersInception Mon 22-Apr-13 20:52:43

Very excited here! Can I join in?!

It was filmed in Clevedon where I grew up. I was christened in the church, biked along those roads. It's strange seeing it interspersed with Dorset- North Somerset is not so sandy I promise you!

I think... the postman! Why not at this point? I keep whirling round the best friend, the husband, or the newspaper editor. But who knows!

Jossysgiants Mon 22-Apr-13 20:52:50

Just about to unplug phones and batten down the hatches. Dh under instructions - no coughing or rustling of any kind. Or asking who a character is.
I seem to have convinced myself that I am on the investigation team.

Good luck everyone. May the plot be twisty and turny and Dt escape the hand of the reaper.

FIFIBEBE Mon 22-Apr-13 20:55:10

I am issuing demands to my family to not even walk in the surrounding rooms whilst it is on. I must have complete and utter silence. I am changing my mind even at this last minute about my theory.

gillywillywoo Mon 22-Apr-13 20:55:12

DH just walked in "why the FUCK is coronation street on?"

(We never watch corrie)

Me "because I don't want to risk missing a single moment of broadchurch!!!!!"

<stares at TV... Stares at watch... Stares at phone...repeats>
grin

notheroldie Mon 22-Apr-13 20:55:27

I wondered where the church was I didnt recognise it from my youth in Dorset, makes sense now!
Postie def more to learn about him, and the paintballing, the argument between the boys etc .
Might have to watch a bit of Corrie so I dont miss the start.....

frazzledbutcalm Mon 22-Apr-13 20:55:45

apparently only a handful of studio people actually know whodunit ... it's been kept secret from even those in the know wink

Asheth Mon 22-Apr-13 20:56:07

Tele is on! Just a few minutes to go!

magentastardust Mon 22-Apr-13 20:56:10

See you on the other side folks!

I'm here! I'm here!

<pant pant>

Been to CX & zumba...just showered & have grabbed food.

I am now poised.

Will check in during adverts

Squeeeee

yup, am going off-line til the end

5mins....

ItsOkayItsJustMyBreath Mon 22-Apr-13 20:57:34

Okay, here we go!
Hold tight everyone grin

TheOldestCat Mon 22-Apr-13 20:57:39

Beer in hand, cat on lap, and children and DH in bed. Here we go!

ItsOkayItsJustMyBreath Mon 22-Apr-13 20:58:55

If DS wakes up I have NO idea what I'll do, seriously!

Ooooo can't cope with all this excitment grin

BOF Mon 22-Apr-13 20:59:40

I'll be on in the adverts. I actually have butterflies...

AllOverIt Mon 22-Apr-13 20:59:40

Squeeeee!

Just throw sweets at him ItsOIJMB grin

snice Mon 22-Apr-13 21:00:38

I feel ridiculously nervous as if I'm about to do a test

Tee2072 Mon 22-Apr-13 21:01:04

Here we go!!!!

notheroldie Mon 22-Apr-13 21:01:09

just think that last episode being filmed and not knowing who it was then being told... oiy its YOU, bet you feel great!

MN going vey vey slow for me....grrrrr

ohforfoxsake Mon 22-Apr-13 21:01:35

<excited>

going to watch it in peace - savour the last ever BC sad Will come on after and discuss it all/cry that it is over!

WishIdbeenatigermum Mon 22-Apr-13 21:02:25

Squeee!!

LeBoob Mon 22-Apr-13 21:02:33

Why will my bloody child not go to sleep wails

snice Mon 22-Apr-13 21:03:07

ITV +1 is yr friend

DonkeysDontRideBicycles Mon 22-Apr-13 21:05:36

Where's Nige?!

RedPencils Mon 22-Apr-13 21:06:24

We're off.

Still not decided in a theory.

Ruprekt Mon 22-Apr-13 21:06:50

Marking place

Allthingspretty Mon 22-Apr-13 21:07:52

Said on digital spy that it will keep tou guessing till the end and that therw might be a scene that wraps it up after the credits...

ScrambledSmegs Mon 22-Apr-13 21:09:09

Place marking. Politely, like.

Ikeameatballs Mon 22-Apr-13 21:09:16

Watching!

JakeBullet Mon 22-Apr-13 21:11:00

I am none the wiser, still think Tom has something (a lot) to hide.

Poor DT

MortifiedAdams Mon 22-Apr-13 21:12:36

I feel so aorry for OC. Battery dying shit¡

Tee2072 Mon 22-Apr-13 21:14:05

It's too obvious if it's him!

DonkeysDontRideBicycles Mon 22-Apr-13 21:15:11

Ooooh!

Tee2072 Mon 22-Apr-13 21:15:18

Nah, he's protecting someone!

JakeBullet Mon 22-Apr-13 21:15:29

...and ADVERT ..noooooooooo!

Oh so it's not Joe then.

Too easy. Defo NOT Joe

RedPencils Mon 22-Apr-13 21:16:03

Ooooooooooooh!

Quick catch up, what did Ellie's sister say?

teejwood Mon 22-Apr-13 21:16:06

It was Joe shock
Watches carefully thought through theories fall to shit, exactly as predicted grin

BOF Mon 22-Apr-13 21:16:08

Oh god, I thought DT was going to drop dead then...

So, is it Joe or is he covering?

ShowOfHands Mon 22-Apr-13 21:16:12

Hide n Seek's a bitch. Being seeker's better Joe m'love.

ohforfoxsake Mon 22-Apr-13 21:16:13

I'll be disappointed if its him! (even though we all predicted it!)

ItsOkayItsJustMyBreath Mon 22-Apr-13 21:16:13

so that's Joe off the list then...

BrianCoxandTheTempleofDOOM Mon 22-Apr-13 21:16:40

he's protecting wifey! I said weeks ago she planted the info about the newsagent to steer the investigation off course!

Fragglewump Mon 22-Apr-13 21:16:53

Is the Tom/joe thing too obvious and it will be a twisty turn plot thing???? My money's still on Chloe and bf!

He's protecting his lover, the Vicar!

He's involved, but not him. I hope it isn't Tom though. Lilo may be right.

eminemmerdale Mon 22-Apr-13 21:17:08

TOO EASY!!!

LadyStark Mon 22-Apr-13 21:17:10

Can't be that simple. Or can it. Oh I don't know.

I love DT.

Ikeameatballs Mon 22-Apr-13 21:17:16

If he isn't the killer then how did he get the phone?

Gay affair between Joe and Nige? Danny new an was blackmailing..

gillywillywoo Mon 22-Apr-13 21:17:19

I think that means its NOT joe?!

HMMMMMM

teejwood Mon 22-Apr-13 21:17:20

DP is saying no, there is more to come.
<faint glimmer of hope>

Chipstick10 Mon 22-Apr-13 21:17:26

It's not joe, he's covering.

ShowOfHands Mon 22-Apr-13 21:17:28

Could he have been hiding for 15yrs though?

JakeBullet Mon 22-Apr-13 21:17:28

Yeah reckon we can cross Joe off the list [grin[. Damn that Chris Chibnell....

grograg Mon 22-Apr-13 21:17:35

It's not him because they are keeping it till the end. I really thought it was him though!!

COCKadoodledooo Mon 22-Apr-13 21:17:36

It can't be him really can it? Not with 45 mins left to wrap up.

RedPencils Mon 22-Apr-13 21:17:56

I thought DT was going to keel over before he got to joe.

DuelingFanjo Mon 22-Apr-13 21:17:56

Who would he help? As a paramedic perhaps, as already suggested, he tried to help Danny but to protect who? Someone he really cares for? Like who.

Still think it's Mark.

Asheth Mon 22-Apr-13 21:18:17

Protecting tom? Or just thinks he's protecting tom?

Chipstick10 Mon 22-Apr-13 21:18:22

Still think its ollie even though I originally thought joe

MortifiedAdams Mon 22-Apr-13 21:18:30

Phone charging so can stay with. Best snacks I can rustle up are a brew and an easter egg.

Im a little behind but will zip through the ads to catch up.

Ikeameatballs Mon 22-Apr-13 21:18:31

Who is the third person in the emails from Danny?

ItsOkayItsJustMyBreath Mon 22-Apr-13 21:18:56

Juniper grin he may get more than that valium infused milk for example

VenusStarr Mon 22-Apr-13 21:18:58

It's very tense isn't it?!

I like the vicar / gay storyline....

Tee2072 Mon 22-Apr-13 21:19:00

I think it's the female cop. I always have.

59 days earlier ????

FriskyMare Mon 22-Apr-13 21:19:41

I think it was Ellie.

MonstersInception Mon 22-Apr-13 21:19:47

I had thought it was Joe early on ... but not for that reason!

BrianCoxandTheTempleofDOOM Mon 22-Apr-13 21:19:50

shock

Oh god...

JakeBullet Mon 22-Apr-13 21:20:04

OMFG!!!!

Eh!

Ruprekt Mon 22-Apr-13 21:20:18

Yuck!

Tee2072 Mon 22-Apr-13 21:20:27

You disgusting son of a bitch.

RedPencils Mon 22-Apr-13 21:20:29

Eh? What's going on here?

LeChatRouge Mon 22-Apr-13 21:20:41

Noooooooooooooooooooooo

LittleBairn Mon 22-Apr-13 21:20:58

Oh god didn't see this aspect coming. That's Ellie's DH isn't it?

MissMogwi Mon 22-Apr-13 21:21:19

Awful horrible bastard.

SoulTrain Mon 22-Apr-13 21:21:36

Bloody hell shock

Flisspaps Mon 22-Apr-13 21:21:36

This is what he's telling DT happened

Footface Mon 22-Apr-13 21:21:44

What's happened? I went for a wee

Ruprekt Mon 22-Apr-13 21:21:51

Omg

Tee2072 Mon 22-Apr-13 21:21:58

It was an accident?!?!

HOLY CRAP!!

So we know who did it straight away?

Flisspaps Mon 22-Apr-13 21:22:24

There's 40 minutes left, this isn't it

JakeBullet Mon 22-Apr-13 21:22:36

Ah so it might still all be a lie then.

LittleBairn Mon 22-Apr-13 21:22:37

I missed the first 12 mins so totally lost.

So Ellie's DH is a pedophile. Did DT find something in his past?

custardsky Mon 22-Apr-13 21:22:41

Whoa...! WTF?

antlerqueen Mon 22-Apr-13 21:22:43

holy.. This can't be the whole story though, showing this that early on in the episode?

FriskyMare Mon 22-Apr-13 21:22:48

OOps. Wrong grin

teejwood Mon 22-Apr-13 21:22:57

Really, that's it <DP and I both chorus at the same time>?

Tee2072 Mon 22-Apr-13 21:22:59

My husband keeps expecting DT to drop dead... grin

Surely that's it then

ohforfoxsake Mon 22-Apr-13 21:23:20

But coroner said he hadn't been abused - maybe Joe is his real dad?

FayKnights Mon 22-Apr-13 21:23:23

Ellie must know, where on earth does she think he was the night of the murder otherwise

flatmum Mon 22-Apr-13 21:23:50

Oh ffs

Tee2072 Mon 22-Apr-13 21:24:25

Yes. What Ellie said to whatsherface about 'not knowing under your own roof'.

BrianCoxandTheTempleofDOOM Mon 22-Apr-13 21:24:26

still say ellie involved, she covered up - cleaning body , covering tracks

BearsInMotion Mon 22-Apr-13 21:24:28

Gnnngghhh!

RedPencils Mon 22-Apr-13 21:24:34

Noooooo.

I still think it's a ring and Nigel and vicar involved too, but don't know why Joe would protect them.....or Tom saw Danny and his Dad and killed Danny.

Ruprekt Mon 22-Apr-13 21:25:26

This could all still be a lie.....

MonstersInception Mon 22-Apr-13 21:25:45

Why would it be a fake version?

Ruprekt Mon 22-Apr-13 21:26:14

This could all still be a lie.....

maybe he will kill dt?

BOF Mon 22-Apr-13 21:26:45

I WAS FUCKING RIGHT!!!

COCKadoodledooo Mon 22-Apr-13 21:26:57

But Pauline Quirke said she saw a baldie on the beach? And he was wearing a hat in that so was she lying or is this bit bollocks?

JakeBullet Mon 22-Apr-13 21:27:01

It isn't Joe, Tom still my prime suspect.

3MonthMaid Mon 22-Apr-13 21:27:03

This is just all too neat.

ItsOkayItsJustMyBreath Mon 22-Apr-13 21:27:45

yep, think this is the version that Joe is telling Alec.

PeskyRat Mon 22-Apr-13 21:27:59

this is DT's imaginings I think

Where did Danny moeny come from? Being paid to hug him?

ScrambledSmegs Mon 22-Apr-13 21:28:01

I don't buy it.

Allthingspretty Mon 22-Apr-13 21:28:01

Its not wrapped up...watch after the credits as there is a very steong possibility if an aftwr credit scene that solves the mystery

wifey6 Mon 22-Apr-13 21:28:03

I suspected he might be covering up for an accidental death caused by his son...but Jesus Christ...this is something else!! (If this is the truth of what happened!)

They're trying to drive us nuts. It's a conspiracy.

Gnnnnaararrrrrrrrrahhhhh!!!!

ItsOkayItsJustMyBreath Mon 22-Apr-13 21:28:06

maybe he thinks he's covering for Tom?

Plinkityplonk Mon 22-Apr-13 21:28:13

Noooooo I didn't want it to be an abuse thing, there's got to be more still over 30 mins left, hoping for a good twist yet...

Chipstick10 Mon 22-Apr-13 21:28:15

Omg. I had it as joe for the last two weeks but I didn't think it would be him at the end. How did he get the keys from Susan?

It certainly isn't the full story

Ikeameatballs Mon 22-Apr-13 21:28:17

If this is a lie then he thinks he is protecting Tom or Ellie.

If not a lie then how does he know about what Ellie's sis has said about the man putting clothes in the bin?

Flisspaps Mon 22-Apr-13 21:28:19

Monsters He thinks that Tom did do it and is covering - the laptop and skateboard. Tom might have stolen the phone from Danny before he died.

He thinks he's protecting Tom - but Tom didn't do it.

Tee2072 Mon 22-Apr-13 21:28:30

That's what I just said COCK. She said the person was bald. Not wearing a hat!

Joe's covering up for someone. And Ellie knows something.

MikeLitoris Mon 22-Apr-13 21:28:40

There better be a bloody good twist coming up.

Yet another disappointing ending to a potentially very good drama.

MonstersInception Mon 22-Apr-13 21:28:46

Things they haven't covered yet - that fight Danny was seen having with the postman? Role of the Vicar, if any? There are still loose ends.

if this is true and there's no twist then i was blooming right on week one! shock grin

really hope he doesnt kill dt sad

VenusStarr Mon 22-Apr-13 21:29:14

I predicted joe, but didn't suspect that.

I just think it can't be him tho...either it's a dream or he involved someone else. There's still half an hour left!

Or DT will die now and it'll take whole episode to find out?

Ikeameatballs Mon 22-Apr-13 21:29:40

Ooh or he is protecting Nige.

DuelingFanjo Mon 22-Apr-13 21:29:47

DH thinks they are going to go through different scenarios with each suspect.

Hope it's Mark.

Flisspaps Mon 22-Apr-13 21:29:49

It was all a dream. Danny's dream. He wakes up after the credits and goes to Sports Day grin

Footface Mon 22-Apr-13 21:30:04

Who was abusing who??

Annianni Mon 22-Apr-13 21:30:09

Is Joe Pauline q's son?

Fragglewump Mon 22-Apr-13 21:30:11

confused

Wishfulmakeupping Mon 22-Apr-13 21:30:11

Really hoping for a big twist now it's been so good needs a big final twist to do it justice

RedPencils Mon 22-Apr-13 21:30:22

On the basis that there's still half an hour to go, I think he's lying.

BearsInMotion Mon 22-Apr-13 21:30:45

There better be a bloody good twist coming up.

Yet another disappointing ending to a potentially very good drama.

^^This

I went to make a cup of tea at the last break and was late back , I'm confused now!

BlingBubbles Mon 22-Apr-13 21:31:37

I also hope there is a twist.... But why would he lie about this?!?

Flisspaps Mon 22-Apr-13 21:32:14

Why the boiler suit? They take the clothes to preserve evidence...but this is 8 weeks on, there's going to be fuck all evidence in what he was wearing 8 fucking weeks later hmm

mrspaddy Mon 22-Apr-13 21:32:27

same here.. missed a couple minutes now I am lost sad

Tee2072 Mon 22-Apr-13 21:32:30

I think the paedio part is true. I don't think he killed him.

Or not grin

MonstersInception Mon 22-Apr-13 21:33:41

It's either an elaborate lie for someone else - or the truth.

I think the former? But honestly had expected it was Joe all along!

antlerqueen Mon 22-Apr-13 21:33:51

Susan did not mention state of the person's hair or anything hat-related

MonstersInception Mon 22-Apr-13 21:34:08

the latter*!

JakeBullet Mon 22-Apr-13 21:34:10

Danny is his son.....maybe.

BOF Mon 22-Apr-13 21:34:28

From the last thread:

"BOF Tue 16-Apr-13 00:13:00
I've got it!

Joe discovered something about Danny (perhaps Danny was blackmailing him over something murky? An abuse allegation or something?) and went to meet him after finding out that Danny was hinting at this secret to Tom. He arranged a meeting (perhaps as Tom , or maybe Tom was meant to show up but overslept?). Having it out with Danny, he tried to summon Tom from his bed by text from his wife's phone, and Danny tried too (hence the texts from 'mum' and Danny). Something went wrong, Danny got too lippy, and Joe killed him. He cleans the body, takes it out to sea to dump, but then realises he is a known user of the boat from the paint balling trip, so comes back to shore and arranges it to look like a fall.

Tom knows his dad is well-dodgy and is trying to protect him, and keep the secret of the alleged abuse. Which is also why he had the idea of accusing the vicar of abuse if he surrendered his laptop: he knows that adults will go to any lengths to avoid that stigma."

So, if we take out the text stuff out, because we learnt last week that they weren't from the night of the murder but thought they were at the time, that makes me substantially correct grin <crows>

Tee2072 Mon 22-Apr-13 21:35:04

So she has no idea where Joe was.

BrianCoxandTheTempleofDOOM Mon 22-Apr-13 21:35:55

its her I tell ya! Ellie is involved!

teejwood Mon 22-Apr-13 21:36:03

Ahhh! I said on one of the threads that if Ellie says she took a sleeping pill or something and it was Joe I'd be really pissed off. So I am really pissed right now. Olivia is brill, though..

Tee2072 Mon 22-Apr-13 21:36:17

Unless you're completely wrong, BOF.

grin

Ledkr Mon 22-Apr-13 21:36:22

Also think he's covering for someone

RedPencils Mon 22-Apr-13 21:37:57

She's brilliant.

Flisspaps Mon 22-Apr-13 21:38:11

I fucking HEART her

BrianCoxandTheTempleofDOOM Mon 22-Apr-13 21:38:25

I think I have a new girl crush...

LittleBairn Mon 22-Apr-13 21:38:25

Could it be the pedo part is true, TOm catches them and blames Danny and kills him or at least causes his death. The father realising it was all his fault confesses in order to protect him.

Susan did say hat.

Tee2072 Mon 22-Apr-13 21:38:55

She really is brilliant.

MikeLitoris Mon 22-Apr-13 21:38:59

Oh god she made me cry.

Ruprekt Mon 22-Apr-13 21:39:11

OC is fab!

LittleBairn Mon 22-Apr-13 21:39:21

Can I see Tom... I would have stabbed him with the chair leg.

MortifiedAdams Mon 22-Apr-13 21:39:38

If he was covering, why would he say anything about abuse - "we had an argumebt, I killed him, it was an accident".

Its got to be true.

RedPencils Mon 22-Apr-13 21:40:12

Still 25 mins to go.

LeChatRouge Mon 22-Apr-13 21:40:41

Slug?

Ruprekt Mon 22-Apr-13 21:40:48

I do hope DT doesn't die.........shock

LittleBairn Mon 22-Apr-13 21:40:55

He could be admitting the abuse because isn't too sure what the PM says and he wants no doubt cast he wants to make sire he goes down for it.

BOF Mon 22-Apr-13 21:40:59

I know we've been saying Joe since last week, but I don't find it at all disappointing: if it came totally out of left field, we'd be even more pissed off.

FriskyMare Mon 22-Apr-13 21:41:07

Poor slug!

teejwood Mon 22-Apr-13 21:41:15

So Ellie has paid a witness and given the accused a kicking? That will go down well in court wink

Tee2072 Mon 22-Apr-13 21:41:18

That's a good point MA, except why would they be together?

Ruprekt Mon 22-Apr-13 21:41:59

It is still good and I am not disappointed........

MikeLitoris Mon 22-Apr-13 21:42:08

The slug was a bit random.

Did socco man just give a sly little look? Or was he trying to look pained?

Oh my fucking GOD!!!

It really was him!


....or was it?

teejwood Mon 22-Apr-13 21:42:27

BTW - Well done BOF!

FayKnights Mon 22-Apr-13 21:42:35

Was it a slug?

Flisspaps Mon 22-Apr-13 21:42:49

I hate slugs. Got 6 of the little fuckers in my kitchen last night with a whole box of salt. Fucking slimy fucking fuckers.

HotCrossPun Mon 22-Apr-13 21:43:15

If he is covering for somebody, why would he say he was a paedophile??

StickEmUpPunk Mon 22-Apr-13 21:43:17

Ive only watched this episode, i watch hardly any television.
This is why ... Is this ending not a bit lame ? (Ive heard bits and bobs from a colleague)

COCKadoodledooo Mon 22-Apr-13 21:43:25

Poor Ellie sad Unless she done it of course wink

Did she squash the slug because that's what she wanted to do to Joe?

WreckfestAtTiffanys Mon 22-Apr-13 21:43:39

Oh well, not such a big reveal on the person, but still good.

I wonder what else is to come, I hoe it's going to twit and turn to the end. Do we now think Joe is involved in any of the previous crimes?

Ikeameatballs Mon 22-Apr-13 21:43:45

Wow, amazing performance from OC.

yellowhousewithareddoor Mon 22-Apr-13 21:43:47

Well we got the mistaken identity with Nige -
We got the Tom/Dad involvement...

What on earth next....

Poor Ellie.

teejwood Mon 22-Apr-13 21:43:59

Lovely Ellie is now the type to stamp on slugs - bet she wouldn't have done that at the start of the series...

OC is outstanding.
I'm not disappointed it's Joe at all. I still think there is a little twist to come

BOF Mon 22-Apr-13 21:44:08

I think I will have some smug wine, teejwood grin

DuelingFanjo Mon 22-Apr-13 21:44:10

Did joe send texts to tom's phone from Ellie's phone?

VenusStarr Mon 22-Apr-13 21:44:25

I was right!

I think confused

yellowhousewithareddoor Mon 22-Apr-13 21:44:35

What does Nige know/do - if he said at the beginning stuff is going to come out about him?!?!

ohforfoxsake Mon 22-Apr-13 21:44:46

Still got to find out what the psychic has to do with it all.

Bloody adverts!

Ledkr Mon 22-Apr-13 21:44:46

Poor slug. See his you get treated if you don't have an equity card.

Bowlersarm Mon 22-Apr-13 21:45:05

It's too easy-there has to be a twist

miggy Mon 22-Apr-13 21:45:11

Anyone else watching and just saying "aw Ellie" every five minutes, it's so sad!