THE ICE CREAM GIRLS ITV FRI 9pm

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Blondeshavemorefun Fri 19-Apr-13 15:53:12

starts tonight (friday) 9pm ITV

3 parter about two friends - Serena and Poppy who were teenagers in 1995

Serena was seeing their teacher Marcus who then gets murdered

Poppy serves 17years and is now released though said she didnt do it

Serena acquitted and hasnt told anyone including hubby her past

Be interesting if story follows the book - unlike Crickly hall which changed things sad

sarahandduck Fri 19-Apr-13 15:54:34

Ooh, thanks for the reminder. I enjoyed the book so will be interested to see if they stick to it.

petal2008 Fri 19-Apr-13 16:55:00

From reading the TV write up about the first episode it doesn't look like they will be following the book closely.

In the first episode it says that Serena moves from Leeds to the south coast to look after her sick mother. Don't remember that in the book - it was Poppy who searched out Serena who was already living on south coast with hubby and two children.

I won't be watching - I hate it when they change things for no reason. Plus it's on ITV so will be full of bloody adverts.

zukiecat Fri 19-Apr-13 20:52:25

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bluebump Fri 19-Apr-13 20:54:06

I've never heard of the book but i'll be watching.

MrsTomHardy Fri 19-Apr-13 21:09:40

I've never heard of it either but will def be watching.

cogitosum Fri 19-Apr-13 21:11:50

I've read the book and started watching.. Not too close to the book so far

MrsTomHardy Fri 19-Apr-13 21:16:10

Is it worth a read??
I might download it onto my kindle if so smile

MikeLitoris Fri 19-Apr-13 21:16:39

I'm watching. Only because I haven't read the book.

I'm finding the jumping back and forth annoying so far.

NuhichNuhaymuh Fri 19-Apr-13 21:18:22

just turn on, what have I missed?

cogitosum Fri 19-Apr-13 21:20:02

It's ok. A kind of mixture between chicklif and crime/suspense

It's not anything like the book so far is it?

TattooEnvy Fri 19-Apr-13 21:26:17

Is anyone else finding it a bit slow?

My sister suggested that I watch it but I'm nearly falling asleep!

Currido Fri 19-Apr-13 21:30:40

I'm enjoying it because it is fillmed in my home town of Bray in Ireland! My brothers used to work on the waltzers and fairground.
Those beach huts are new though!

MrsTomHardy Fri 19-Apr-13 21:35:53

I'm finding it a bit slow....nearly nodding off...I might try the book

NuhichNuhaymuh Fri 19-Apr-13 21:43:10

was all of it filmed in Bray Currio?

Currido Fri 19-Apr-13 21:48:38

Dont think so. We dont have a local prison! All the beach scenes and the house is in Bray . They obviously took english reg cars over to put in shot as the irish ones are fuzzy.

NuhichNuhaymuh Fri 19-Apr-13 21:54:34

missed the first part so didnt see the prison bit!!!

So much stuff is filmed here, My office door keeps popping up in "london" smile

rainbowslollipops Sat 20-Apr-13 06:44:44

I really enjoyed it! Usually dramas can drag a bit for me but I'm hooked so far!

diddl Sat 20-Apr-13 15:25:53

It didn't really grip me, but I want to know who did it & why!

So if Poppy says that she didn't do it-does that mean that Serena did it & got off because her family could afford better lawyers/coach her?

Or did they both do it together?

He's an abuser but Poppy got 17yrs(?)-so it wasn't believed to be self defense?

It was someone he'd abused in the past or a partner??

Well, at least it's only a couple of weeks to find out!!

Don't really like the Serena character though, so that doesn't help!!

zukiecat Sat 20-Apr-13 15:31:53

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Blondeshavemorefun Sat 20-Apr-13 16:38:41

finally watched it-had dss over last night so didnt manage to watch my tv instead we watched dog racing

i have the book but wont read till all 3 parts, as i said crickly hall didnt stay the same story - bits chnaged sad

why do they do that hmm

sunshinenanny Sat 20-Apr-13 16:43:17

The book is great but this is not a good adaptation and Poppy was not a stroppy teenager who hated her nasty stepfather! In fact I thought one of the saddest aspects of the book was that because her mother was unwell when she was growing up Poppy had a really good relationship with her dad but he couldn't cope with what he thought his 'little' girl had done and shut himself off. Her mother does try to explain to Poppy (when she's released from prison) why he can't bring himself to talk to her and also explains that there was nothing they could do to for Poppy once she was convicted but they had to protect the twins from the media.

Yes Petal 2008 I also hate it when they change the plot of a much loved book just for the sake of it

Watched it last night .
Not much like the book , and the book is much better in my opinion .
Dorothy Koonsom is one of my favourite authors .
Another very good read is ' The Woman He Loved Before '

Groovee Sat 20-Apr-13 16:49:53

I read the book about 3 years ago, so for me it is better to not watch something after reading as it annoys me. Harry Potter infuriates me at times x

sunshinenanny Sat 20-Apr-13 21:37:34

diddl, read the book if you want to be gripped! much better, really good ending; But I doubt if this 3 parter will stick to it!

Blonds I think they are trying to be clever and think they can improve on the author, I prefer it when the author adapts his or her own work for the screen it rarely works when someone else does it as their ego takes over.

It's sometimes neccesary to make minor alterations to a story for filming but this goes far beyond that

Blondeshavemorefun Wed 24-Apr-13 19:59:21

intrigued what they have changed from the book so far apart from poppy looking for serena and her not liking her stepfather

i assume in the book both were seeing the teacher? and also assume as he raped serena she kills him?

looking forward to fridays episode smile

PenelopePortrait Wed 24-Apr-13 22:01:28

I've read that they've changed the ending! Why adapt it in the first place then?

JambalayaCodfishPie Fri 26-Apr-13 13:15:11

Just watched. Bit disappointed. I read this a few years ago and remember loving it.

Blondeshavemorefun Fri 26-Apr-13 19:27:00

I'm out tonight on bubbly with a friend so will watch over the weekend

JambalayaCodfishPie Sat 27-Apr-13 08:35:26

Having watched the second one, I'm pretty sure they've changed an awful lot from the book.

diddl Sat 27-Apr-13 20:22:24

Just watched the second.

From the trailer for next week, it looks as if they show Poppy stabbing him??!!

If so-maybe she did it for Serena, & that's why she says she's innocent?

Don't like the Serena character at all.

zukiecat Sat 27-Apr-13 20:50:16

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diddl Sat 27-Apr-13 21:09:30

Yes, I agree.

I suppose the author was trying to make a point with the book about abuse & how even a well educated girl like Serena could fall for it yet supposedly the needy(?) less well brought up Poppy sees through it more easily.

Serena is so hooked "but I love him & he's so sorry after"-just makes me want to scream at her!!

But if Poppy really didn't do it or could have got a lesser sentence had Serena told the truth (which she's had 17yrs to do), I think I#m going to be pretty pissed off tbh.

diddl Sat 27-Apr-13 21:14:45

Although I'm also thinking she daren't admit the abuse due to embarrassment-but lying under oath.

Maybe she genuinely believes that he didn't abuse her??!!

It's all so weighted against Poppy.

At the end of the day he was a sleazeball having sex with his 16yrold pupil!

zukiecat Sun 28-Apr-13 11:52:00

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diddl Sun 28-Apr-13 12:27:21

Read an extract on Kindle last night & Serena was 19 & the older one.

Poppy 18.

So was he an ex teacher & not having underage sex?

Not that it means he wasn't abusive, but changes it somewhat!

Blondeshavemorefun Sun 28-Apr-13 20:59:53

Teacher is an absolute perve and bully and rapist sad

Serena really does have rose tinted glasses with him sad

sunshinenanny Mon 29-Apr-13 13:40:31

diddle The book is over a longer period and Serena is underage when he seduces her, also both girls are in a relationship with him and it's when they start to mature that they both decide to finish with him and it turns into a nightmare for them! both girls really believe the other actually killed him so Serena isn't as bad as the serial makes her.

The girls at the trial are not really believed when they try to tell how abusive Marcus was, There are reasons for this! I think serena being a couple of years younger than Poppy is the main reason she gets off but can't quite remember that. It is accepted by the judge that Marcus was flawed in his taste for underage girls but not that he was violent. The girls are portrayed as little temptresses who took advantage of his flawed personality.

In the book at the end only the reader knows who the killer was and the last chapter is as if it's written by Marcus

sunshinenanny Mon 29-Apr-13 13:42:27

I am so dissapointed by this adaptation!

Blondeshavemorefun Mon 29-Apr-13 20:46:13

im looking forwARD TO reading the book

CalamityKate Wed 01-May-13 12:23:40

Loving it.

I bet neither of them dunnit. I bet it was his other girlfriend.

diddl Wed 01-May-13 12:58:06

Yes I think that as well-with the thought of saving P&S?

But then to let a teenager go to prison for 17yrs!

Clawdy Wed 01-May-13 14:09:07

Marcus is so unattractive...or is it just me? and that slacks/polo shirt combo makes him look even worse. Not the sort of man girls would develop a crush on...bad casting.

diddl Wed 01-May-13 14:12:04

But sometimes it's about the attention from an older man, isn't it?-not that he looks that much older!

Don't see why he would have to be "drop dead gorgeous".
I like that they are all so ordinary looking.

Blondeshavemorefun Thu 02-May-13 17:21:27

Kate - you think so?

Maybe she didn't like the fact her bf was a perve and shagging 2 teenagers ......

CalamityKate Thu 02-May-13 17:36:10

Yep. I reckon that'll be the twist.

I hope they manage to prove it though; if she gets away with it and it turns out Poppy's been in prison for nothing with no vindication it'll be depressing!

PenelopePortrait Fri 03-May-13 21:43:52

WTF??

JambalayaCodfishPie Fri 03-May-13 22:00:45

Boring, really boring.

diddl Fri 03-May-13 22:02:25

Oh!

I thought that it would have been Marlene as well.

How convenient that the mother was dyinghmm

PenelopePortrait Fri 03-May-13 22:09:48

It's a while ago since I read the book but I don't remember it being Serena mother! As you say, convenient.

Skinnywhippet Fri 03-May-13 22:56:30

I thought it was Marlene in the book...someone tell me if I remember right.

GaryBarlowsPants Fri 03-May-13 23:35:28

Yes Penelope and Skinny, in the book it's Marlene. Also, I don't think Poppy stabs him at all, but I may be wrong.
Anyone else a little disappointed? I thought the actress who played Poppy was brillant. Loved the book but a bit disappointed with the TV series...

diddl Sat 04-May-13 07:43:45

If it was Marlene in the book-did she go to prison?

I'm guessing that the focus on the book was why Serena was so enamoured of him, could't leave him as to the mystery of "whodunnit"?

Just didn't work for me, still hated Serena.

Had no sympathy at all, even when it was her mum.

In fact I just hated her mum as well.

So it was all a bit "happily ever after" really.

waikikamookau Sat 04-May-13 08:39:25

bloody ridiculous ending.
and would serena really call the police on her mother, I mean would you??

rainbowslollipops Sat 04-May-13 08:43:03

I didn't read the book but did watch this and loved it. Maybe it's because I didn't have anything to compare it to not having read the book.

diddl Sat 04-May-13 08:43:09

I think it was a bit blurred by the fact that Poppy had already stabbed him in a way.

Obviously the remova lof the knife & the repeated stabbings did for him!

I'd be really torn tbh-the mum didn't just kill him, she let Poppy go to prison for 17(?)yrs.

I think that at that moment I would hate my mum & could call the police tbh.

Whether or not I regretted it...

AubreyMegan Sat 04-May-13 11:44:20

I haven't read the book otherwise I'd have probably been disappointed too.

I thought they wrapped it up too quickly. I think Serena would have battled with protecting her mum or telling the truth more than just a day.

She literally found the notes, confronted her mum a couple of hours after and then made her hand herself in the same day.

Would have been better if it was Marlene in the series too.

zukiecat Sat 04-May-13 17:02:33

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Blondeshavemorefun Sat 04-May-13 19:55:35

I really enjoyed this but havnt read the book

But it's on my table - ordered from amazon smile

Hal neither girl did it - though obviously stabbed to begin with

But why in the film say the mum did it but in the book the girlfriend did it

Why change the ending sad

Skinnywhippet Sat 04-May-13 20:15:39

People who don't get it have clearly never has a teacher crush. I fancied some awful looking men becauase they were my teachers!

diddl Sat 04-May-13 21:28:42

I don't think it's a question of a teacher crush!

Many of us might have had a crush, but it's unlikely the teacher acted on it!

Blondeshavemorefun Tue 07-May-13 23:57:47

Started the book and already notice the differences sad

Fiderer Wed 08-May-13 07:03:01

The ending was too rushed and I thought Serena wasn't half as good as Poppy. I suppose a better actor could have done the "carried a secret all these years, wanting everything out in the open and having sympathy with poor Poppy" more believably. And shown that Serena was aware her mother wouldn't be sent to prison and that she owed it to Poppy to own up. Her life was nearly over and Poppy still had a chance to clear her name and have a life.
<overthinks this>

I'd have like to have seen the step-dad's reaction, too.

sunshinenanny Wed 08-May-13 16:48:48

This was a dreadful adaptation.

In the book Marlene was Marcus's ex wife and had a young son which is why she didn't own up as she couldn't bear her child to grow up knowing his mother killed his father who was an abusive pervert!

So many of the key characters in the book were left out and those that weren't were changed beyond recognition.

I re-read the book last week and realised just how awful this adaptation washmm

Dejected Thu 16-May-13 17:19:51

I know I'm late to this thread but I've only just caught up with the tv programme. How disappointing was that adaptation.

found this on the dorothy koomson website
www.dorothykoomson.co.uk/the-two-ice-cream-girls/

she didn't like it either
Most of you will have seen the drama by now so you’ll know it has a different ending and a different killer. For those asking: I didn’t have any say or input into any of the changes including the ending.

Blondeshavemorefun Fri 17-May-13 11:00:10

I was bitterly disappointed

Finished the book on holiday and ending so different - the book shows the girls being totally abused emotionally and physically - teacher was very conniving and the series didn't really show that

But why totally change the ending and killer?? hmm

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