Born To Be Different back tonight at 9pm, C4

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I've watched it since the start, can't believe it's been ten years and the children are now 13!

hazeyjane Thu 14-Mar-13 11:47:40

Have set sky plus, just in case I forget. Looking forward to seeing how they are all getting on.

TaggieCampbellBlack Thu 14-Mar-13 11:50:31

Great. Can't believe they are teenagers!

DisAstrophe Thu 14-Mar-13 11:53:35

love this programme - how many episodes are there this time?

swooosh Thu 14-Mar-13 11:57:25

Love this programme, wonderful children. Can't believe they are teens now!

I'm not sure how many episodes there are, will try to find out.

auntpetunia Thu 14-Mar-13 21:04:34

Love Zoe! Really worried about Shelby and William's mum

NaicePig Thu 14-Mar-13 21:04:49

Oh God this show makes me so emotional! Zoe is my favourite, she is so positive and gorgeous and intelligent, I just well up when I see her.

ellesabe Thu 14-Mar-13 21:06:30

She is so lovely!

NaicePig Thu 14-Mar-13 21:09:02

I often think of poor little Shelbie and her family sad

DisAstrophe Thu 14-Mar-13 21:12:29

Zoe is super mature for a 12 year old. So pleased her arm operation worked so well for her

DisAstrophe Thu 14-Mar-13 21:18:40

William and his family have it very tough

NaicePig Thu 14-Mar-13 21:19:15

William's mum is amazing too. With her MS and all the stress and heartbreak with William she's an absolute hero for being os pragmatic and calm.

crashdoll Thu 14-Mar-13 21:24:08

I've also been watching it from the start.

Sobbing at the face of William's mum as she was going around the school. I saw a fractiion of what she's going through in that expression.

SoggySummer Thu 14-Mar-13 21:25:16

I thought the same crashdoll. Very emotive.

NaicePig Thu 14-Mar-13 21:30:44

Oh God Shelbie's mum sad sad

OddBoots Thu 14-Mar-13 21:32:03

I can't wait to be cheering Hamish on in Rio.

ggirl Thu 14-Mar-13 21:33:22

damn missed the beginning, could someone fill me in on william's progress?

LemonBreeland Thu 14-Mar-13 21:33:43

Every time this show comes back I'm astonished and pleased to see Shelby is still with us. It is truly a miracle that she is still here. I' m in complete awe of her Mum.

girliefriend Thu 14-Mar-13 21:34:26

Poor Shelbie sad am breaking my heart at her brother saying 'she looks dead' sad sad sad

auntpetunia Thu 14-Mar-13 21:35:44

Oh poor Shelbie and her mum is so brave! William's mum looked devastated. But wow at Hamish …

NorbertDentressangle Thu 14-Mar-13 21:36:37

Shelby's mum is just amazing. Her strength, love and determination amazes me every time I watch the updates.

SoggySummer Thu 14-Mar-13 21:47:26

OH no poor Shelby sad

girliefriend Thu 14-Mar-13 21:51:09

Bloody hell thats hard to watch, poor Shelbie sad

Think Williams mum is also amazing, such patience with him. His dad looks worn down by it all though sad am quite shocked at how much it costs to send a child to that school though. His poor sister must be scared stiff of him.

OddBoots Thu 14-Mar-13 21:53:22

It seems amazing that if the LA have declined the school they haven't even offered at least some more support like school transport.

SoggySummer Thu 14-Mar-13 21:56:31

Thank goodness Shelby does it again!!! Bless her.

I think its terrible they have not offered anything to Williams family.

drjohnsonscat Thu 14-Mar-13 21:56:44

This programme is such an eye opener. William's family should not be fighting for something so obvious. Bloody hell. I am privileged enough not to be familiar with these issues - it is just an outrage.

SoggySummer Thu 14-Mar-13 21:57:14

Oh good, William got into the school.

drjohnsonscat Thu 14-Mar-13 21:58:35

oh my goodness. HOw hard it must be to leave him.

ellesabe Thu 14-Mar-13 21:59:26

The teachers at William's new school seem really nice

NaicePig Thu 14-Mar-13 22:01:12

Hello drjohnson.


drjohnsonscat Thu 14-Mar-13 22:07:13

ooh naice grin

<puffs hair>

Blondeshavemorefun Thu 14-Mar-13 22:15:06

The netball game with Zoe brought a year to my eye sad

Blondeshavemorefun Thu 14-Mar-13 22:15:48


lisad123everybodydancenow Thu 14-Mar-13 22:32:27

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StiffyByng Thu 14-Mar-13 23:14:55

We recently got our child a place at a residential school. It is horribly hard, and the care package they had up till then was lamentably poor. You have to shout, shout, shout. We got a lawyer, our MP and all three of our councillors involved, for what was, like William's, an open Ann and shut case.

And yes, Shelbie is astonishing.

out2lunch Fri 15-Mar-13 00:38:48

it was a good show tonight - me and dd went through sooo many emotional ups and downs.fantastic to see everyone again.

crashdoll Fri 15-Mar-13 07:49:43

I sobbed when William was in his bedroom at school and said (exact words not coming to mind right now) "you're not leaving yet" in a questioning, sad sort of way.

Having worked with children who have severe SN, I obviously have some insight but this hammered it home a bit more. Fuck the system for not supporting parents more. sad They are one of the groups of people whom the welfare state is for! <steps off social worker soapbox>

BeaWheesht Fri 15-Mar-13 08:01:52

William just breaks my heart. He has such expressive eyes and you can tell he's not understanding at all why he's the way he is. sad

Shelbie too when she was on the compressor (is that what it's called?). So tough and I don't know how her mum copes - she has 7 kids doesn't she? And am I right in remembering there was another wee girl with shelby's condition who died too?

Zoe is brilliant, so lovely and not precocious at all but very mature.

Hamish is doing very well, even if he has got te whole everything is a question intonation thing going on! grin

When is it next on?

brittonc Fri 15-Mar-13 10:13:48


Vicki had a son called Charlie who she lost when he was 3 months old due to the same condition. That was about 18 years ago after her first son, Rhys. He also had partial trisomy 9p.

pinguwings Fri 15-Mar-13 10:35:07

So glad they did a follow up.

Channel 4 really lucked out on choosing such incredible families. All of them are so articulate, honest and just get on and deal with all that life throws at them.

I think William's family are incredible. To have to fight for something so seemingly obvious for nine months, I hope the people responsible for the rejection were watching this! The scene where his Mum was talking him out of the car brought a real lump to my throat, so much love there from both sides.

BrigitBigKnickers Fri 15-Mar-13 12:54:01

Caught up with thison 4oD this morning.

So pleased they are continuing to follow the lives of these incredible children and their families. Zoe really is an amazing girl- so mature- seems like she has good support in school but it really saddened me that she seems resigned to stares and nasty comments- how can kids can be so cruel?

William's family are amazingly resilient- the school looked wonderful and just what he needs.

And Hamish- wow! We will be seeing him at the paralympics in a few years by the looks of it!

Shelby is such a fighter- every series she seems to be battling something- I really expected bad news after the advert break but no she's bounced back. So pleased for her and her lovely family.

Looking forward to the next episode.

Neverbored Fri 15-Mar-13 13:45:51

Thanks everyone for watching. The kids are all amazing (but I may be a tad biased as Williams mum). The fight for schooling was horrific, worse and longer than could be fitted into the programme. Like many of you have noticed it was one of the hardest things ever emotionally - wanting Wills to be happy was what pulled me through. He deserves that, his life may be shortened due to his complex health needs so its sure as heck going to be as happy as possible. We drove away crying, but as you will see it was the right decision. He is now a scout and plays football, he has a 'life' like other teenagers and even more girlfriends... He is such a ladies man!! We miss him terribly, we speak a few words to him everyday and the fantastic staff fill us in on his adventures!! His old school was good too, but like many with severe learning difficulties and autism etc he just could not cope with all the daily transitions. He needed specialist provision for his total needs, mainly epilepsy. I'm off to see his neurologist from GOS at school now (that's so much better than going into London), then I bring my little man home for the weekend. Thanks again for watching and all your lovely comments xxxxx

happystory Fri 15-Mar-13 13:49:40

Thanks for checking in, neverbored (love the name!) So good to hear William is enjoying life at his new school.

MammaMedusa Fri 15-Mar-13 13:50:25

Neverbored - thank you for sharing your story and your family with us. I am sorry you have had to fight so hard, it is a shame "the system" makes it all such a battle. William is lucky to have such a loving and articulate family.

Best wishes to all four of you.

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drjohnsonscat Fri 15-Mar-13 14:01:04

neverbored, I was in awe watching you last night manage everything. I'm so glad you agreed to go on the programme - you taught me something.

So glad William is doing well and is happy at that lovely school. I hope your lovely girl is doing well too.

StiffyByng Fri 15-Mar-13 14:04:08

Neverbored, thank you for posting. You have been a real inspiration to me. I know very well what a struggle it is to access residential placements, and I was shocked at the single hour of care you had at home too. Your speech in the programme about having to battle the very people who should be supporting you is one I've made myself plenty of times. I'm just so glad you won and that William is enjoying life there.

Thank you never bored and all the other families for agreeing to participate in the programme. It's particularly poignant to me as the first programme aired only weeks after my daughter, who has Downs, was born I can remember watching it avidly through my sobs as I really didn't know how my own life was going to be and I've watched it ever since, such amazing families thank you again

Badvoc Fri 15-Mar-13 14:19:19

Been watching this since it starred and - as I am sure everyone is - simply bowled Iberia by these kids and their amazing families.
Neverbored...I can only add to the comments above about how inspirational you are.
So glad will is happy at school

drjohnsonscat Fri 15-Mar-13 14:23:29

I hope you are getting some balance in your lives too. The programme showed you both as so focused on your children's needs and that's obviously right but I do hope this new stage in all your lives has allowed you both a little more freedom.

I too shed a tear when williams dad was on about jumping off a bridge. I have come close to parking my car in a river with DS and I in. DH thinks I'm silly but when he said it, I turned around and said well it's took them 13 year, it's only took me 12. We have similar issues, different disabilities though strangely enough we are Davis too lol grin

I think you are all fab and so are the kids, I just wish I had all your strength and courage xx

drjohnsonscat Fri 15-Mar-13 15:33:47

yes he looked as though he had the weight of the world on his shoulders. I do hope things seem a bit easier now - though I have no experience of any of this so cannot really imagine how people find such strength every single day. devientenigma I'm sorry that bit resonated with you - it's so wrong that some people get given so much to cope with every day and people like me have no idea.

pigletmania Fri 15-Mar-13 15:36:46

All the families are amazing. I dident think poor shelby would make it. Williams family have done the right thing

thats ok drj it takes all walks of might make DH to think twice next time the whole situation gets me down and I feel like that, knowing it didn't just cross my mind but has others. I too have pointed out to him that some have actually done it. I have DS at home full time as there is no suitable school. He can't leave the house or his car and if he feels it's a good day and does he becomes very aggressive etc. He is a very unpredictable kid. I get remarks such as should he be out in the community etc. The last outing he done was about a month ago, the incident ended up at management level which is fair enough but it's left DS unable to leave the house since. Internet is my life grin but sad

CremeEggThief Fri 15-Mar-13 16:44:51

Wow, thanks for posting, Neverbored. Pleased to hear how well William is doing at his school.

Magimedi Fri 15-Mar-13 16:46:36

Neverbored - thank you for your update. I often think of you & al lthe other families on the programme.

And all of you who are struggling with children with special needs - there but for luck go I.

Blondeshavemorefun Fri 15-Mar-13 17:07:14

neverbored thank you for your update - glad william is settling in at his school, and as you said the decision was hard but you have to do whats best for william and your family x

ISpyPlumPie Fri 15-Mar-13 17:17:12

Watched this last night and nothing I can say can really sum up how in awe I am of these incredible young people and their families.

Neverbored - it's lovely to hear that William is happy and doing so well. I think you and your DH did an amazing job fighting to get him the provision he deserves, it's just so wrong that you had to fight at all.

Devientenigma - I really hope you and your DS get the support you need soon.

crashdoll Fri 15-Mar-13 17:17:39

Thank you for updating us Neverbored. William is a gorgeous boy - inside and out. You can tell he has a wonderful, fiesty spirit. So lovely to hear he's doing well, what fantastic and loving parents you are. smile

chrome100 Sat 16-Mar-13 20:23:13

I've just watched this on catch up. I don't have any kids of my own, let alone have any experience of SN, so this was such an eye opener for me at how hard life can be for some families. It really puts my own (very paltry) problems into perspective. They were all such lovely families and kids and I wish them all well.

Bakingnovice Sat 16-Mar-13 23:44:03

I've watched from the start too. Such amazing kids and parents. I feel honoured and humbled that I've been allowed a peek into their journey.

Neverbored - lovely update on William. There is something about him and his expression in his eyes which just speaks a thousand words. It was amazing to see his reaction to the school. What a wonderful and brave mum you are to fight so hard for him.

Zoe really touched me too. So beautiful and articulate, but so vulnerable in parts. Hamish is just brilliant and lovely little Shelby. I can't watch without a huge lump in my throat and my heart swelling with pride at the lovely teenagers. God knows how proud the parents must be. Totally brilliant tv.

SoggySummer Tue 19-Mar-13 08:31:31

Does anyone know when the next episode is on??

I cannot see in in my TV guide and want to make sure I dont miss it.

spiderbabymum Tue 19-Mar-13 09:58:11


spiderbabymum Tue 19-Mar-13 09:58:21

At 2100

haggisandneeps Tue 19-Mar-13 10:06:06

Neverbored: So glad to hear that William is doing well at school. All 4 of you are amazing.

My heart was breaking for Shelbie and her family. Thank God she pulled through again.

Looking forward to seeing Hamish at the Paralympics soon!

My little girl is going in to hospital in June to have the same operation as Zoe is having although Zoe is having pins in and my daughter is having a metal plate. I'll be interested to see how the operation works and how Zoe is after. She's such a tough wee cookie (they all are).

LottieJenkins Wed 20-Mar-13 20:52:39

I am watching now in tears. I found it very moving watching William and his family visit the residential school. I visited Wilf's school with his Dad once before he died and then with my Mum and Dad. His "other Mum" and I took him when he first went to stay at school. He loved it straight away. He turned to me and signed "Bye Mumma see you Friday!" I sobbed all the way back to the QE2 Bridge (or the Dartboard Crossing as Wilf calls it!) NeverBored You and your family are AMAZING!! We are in Suffolk and were turned down the first time for his placement too!

hazeyjane Wed 20-Mar-13 21:57:14

I notice there is a Born to be Different night, from 7pm on Sat, showing excerpts from all the shows. I missed the earlier ones, so look forward to this.

LottieJenkins Thu 21-Mar-13 18:33:18

What channel is the BTBD night on on Sat? It isnt CH4 as i have just gone to skyplus it! confused

LottieJenkins Thu 21-Mar-13 18:34:59

Ignore me! blush Its on More4!! smile

hazeyjane Thu 21-Mar-13 18:37:46

More 4 smile

hazeyjane Thu 21-Mar-13 18:38:07

oops, crossposted!!

Shoppinglist Thu 21-Mar-13 21:23:46

Anyone watching tonight?

Shoppinglist Thu 21-Mar-13 21:28:19

I was late home, going to catch up on +1

chesticles Thu 21-Mar-13 21:35:10

I love this programme, and have watched it from the start, and often think about all the children and how they are getting on. I have such admiration for than and their families.

LeeCoakley Thu 21-Mar-13 21:42:49

Shelbie's prognosis is not good sad. How devastating for the family considering how many times she's been on life support and survived.

DisAstrophe Thu 21-Mar-13 22:21:45

William really seems to have come on well recently - he was so keen and quick to answer questions at school. Was so sweet to see him and his sister together. my dd is the same with her older brother.

Nathan's reading is excellent and he has come out of shell I think.

Was great when Emily was so firm about her surgery. With the children who don't have learning disabilities they can now play a big role in how they manage their conditions. That must be both a relief and a source of frustration to the parents.

girliefriend Thu 21-Mar-13 22:51:54

I have just watched, lovely families.

Agree with everything DisAstrophe said smile

lisad123everybodydancenow Thu 21-Mar-13 23:20:50

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eminemmerdale Fri 22-Mar-13 08:08:32

Have to admit I cried when Emily said No and her parents went with it. I had 30+ operations as a child (not all necessary) and desperately wanted to say no more when i got to 11 or 12 but everyone ignored me sad

haggisandneeps Fri 22-Mar-13 12:37:05

Just catching up now. So happy to see William getting on great. His face when Mum, Dad and Jessica came in - my heart melted!

So glad to see Nathan doing well too. I hope special needs education round here for secondary comes on in the next 4 years before my daughter reaches that age. Would love if she ended up with a small class dedicated to special needs.

So sad to see that Shelbie's prognosis isn't looking good. Her family are amazingly strong.

Finding it hard to watch Zoe's operation knowing my wee girl is going to go through it too <wibble> on the same leg too!

haggisandneeps Fri 22-Mar-13 12:42:54

Hamish is doing fantastic grin

haggisandneeps Fri 22-Mar-13 12:53:47

The reunion was lovely to see smile

girliefriend Fri 22-Mar-13 15:01:57

It seems one of the really good things to come out of the programme is that the parents and children have made some really strong friendships. Was lovely to see that Emily and Zoe get on so well.

I think all the parents are fantastic but I especially admire Shelbies mum, she has been so devoted to ensuring Shelbies life is as good and happy as it can be. Think she is inspiring.

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