MAYDAY - sun 9pm

(422 Posts)
Blondeshavemorefun Sat 02-Mar-13 12:28:43

a new 5 part thriller sun to thur 9pm about a missing person

Hattie the may queen goes missing - everyone suspects everyone

like thrillers smile

DCIlouisemonroe Sat 02-Mar-13 13:52:38

Times weekend is recommending the ITV one Broadchapel

Slates Mayday

5 nights is a bit of a commitment.

DCIlouisemonroe Sat 02-Mar-13 13:53:53

Ooops Broadchurch not'chapel'

Easy to see where I went wrong there.

Blondeshavemorefun Sat 02-Mar-13 14:22:31

broadchapel is on think for 8 weeks so still a comittment grin

did think weird itv and bbc going head to head - silly really

zukiecat Sat 02-Mar-13 19:59:02

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I'm going to watch this, Broadchurch and already watching Lightfields. smile

Blondeshavemorefun Sun 03-Mar-13 18:22:45

so much at 9pm smile

thank goodness for sky+

Oodsigma Sun 03-Mar-13 21:02:37

Am watching

rhondajean Sun 03-Mar-13 21:12:16

Watching too, marking place, will be back to discuss later.

BoomBoomBoom Sun 03-Mar-13 21:18:03

Im watching too.

Lucyellensmum95 Sun 03-Mar-13 21:18:27

i;ll never keep up with this all week, gutted, so need good tv drama in my life just now

although im not sure about this - too bitty

I'm watching it and so far it looks like some horrible pedophile ring 'drama'.

I hope it's more intelligent than that.

Lighthousekeeping Sun 03-Mar-13 21:42:24

I really like Aiden Gillan

AuntieMaggie Sun 03-Mar-13 21:45:37

Tis all a bit odd

Pancakeflipper Sun 03-Mar-13 21:47:52

Does Broadchurch start tomorrow?

Though I am getting freaked out with this one. They all did it.

And why was that guy in the children's bedroom?

Horsemad Sun 03-Mar-13 21:53:29

It's the girl's Uncle.

I think the young girl has been involved in stuff she shouldn't be in the woods with others of her own age (of a sexual nature) and the older men in the community have been spying on her sad

The guy who steals stuff is harmless I think.

iMyself Sun 03-Mar-13 22:19:21

oh for flips sake Lightfields has already started? Thought it was this wed. Annoyed!

Not really sure what i thought of that - too many strange characters in it.

iMyself Sun 03-Mar-13 22:21:22

Also couldn't figure out if it was supposed to have a supernatural edge to it. Did wonder if h was shrinking everyone and adding them to his model village... grin

SaigonSaigon Sun 03-Mar-13 23:18:44

Aiden Gillan was my reason for watching...

But he freaks me out a bit. And his character is yuk. But I'll keep watching, I'm shallow like that.

Think I'm oing to get confused with 3 mystery/missing child/supernatural dramas all on at the same time.

Will give it my best shot though smile -I also need some light but engaging escapism in my life at the moment.

zukiecat Mon 04-Mar-13 12:25:20

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mrsjay Mon 04-Mar-13 12:32:00

I wasn't going to watch it but it came off after CTMW and I got drawn in the are allreally unpleasant aren't they well the men at least I was hooked though I hope it isnt some sort of paedophile ring thats I what I think it is <shudder>

mrsjay Mon 04-Mar-13 12:33:10

The guy who steals stuff is harmless I think.

yes I think he has a MN issue but harmless and a red herring

iMyself Mon 04-Mar-13 13:48:07

That's what i thought. The guy in the bedroom has MH issues but the others evidently have something to hide. Get the feeling the model town guy watches whatever goes on in the circle. The uncle Im not sure about - seems to have annoyed the tqmilyvthough.

What was the mum saying to thectwin btw i didn't catch it.

aidan Given waving arteries here (Ireland) called Love/Hate where he was a crime boss characters. Can't get that the out of my head when i see him, hate it when that happens to a character.

Apart from the young lad and the kebab shop man, all the male characters are pretty rancid.

I think it would be too obvious if Hattie was killed off by the property developer so ruling him out, but I think he has been watching girls in the magic circle and he def knew where it was. His wife recognised his brand of cigarettes when she saw the stubs.

zukiecat Mon 04-Mar-13 14:48:05

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mrsjay Mon 04-Mar-13 16:47:55

I can remember AIden in Queer as folk YEARS ago he was pretty vile in that as well,

carabos Mon 04-Mar-13 17:04:03

Struggled to stay awake tbh. We won't be sticking with it.

Yes, thought that was odd, her washing the shirt. I would have hidden it in a carrier bag for evidence just in case!

zukiecat Mon 04-Mar-13 17:10:19

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Yes, a very odd town so perhaps it is something more spooky and a number of the towns-folk are in on it.

zukiecat Mon 04-Mar-13 17:22:19

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Me too. Would be such a cliche if it's a sex crime.

zukiecat Mon 04-Mar-13 17:40:04

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guineapiglet Mon 04-Mar-13 19:40:24

Watched it but frankly couldn't warm to any of the characters, apart from the frazzled woman on HRT! <empathy>, if you go on the scooby doo crime solving principle, it will be the 'least' obvious, so my money is on the guy leading the search a bit too over enthusiastically!

I can't put my finger on why I didn't go for it , but may watch last episode just to see, if my hunch is right.... Does anyone know where it was filmed?

Blondeshavemorefun Mon 04-Mar-13 20:19:04

i want to know whats in the bag - too obvious to be a body

dont think its developer man either

wondering if was the policeman-what was the blood and why did wife who is also a po wash it - destroying evidence!!!

islingtongirl Mon 04-Mar-13 20:28:35

Watching it now on iplayer. Surely Gail suspects a bit more than bird watching?! Obvs in denial. Police officer chap dodgy..i also think property developer just saw stuff but might not have actually done it, whatever "it" is! Are people watching the second episode tonight?

Teahouse Mon 04-Mar-13 20:54:53

I have just watched episode 1; recorded on Sky. Thought it set up the characters well and will be watching in 10 mins.
I think the cop knows something about Hattie through his job (bet she has been in trouble forvsonething), the developer guy (from Spooks) through his bird/magic circle watching & the Mummer guy sitting in the tree found the body & buried it. Not sure who has done it yet but can't figure out why the toy was stolen.

girliefriend Mon 04-Mar-13 21:09:23

The ending of ystds episode totally freaked me out!!

Im scared!!

Lynned Mon 04-Mar-13 21:17:04

There seem to be an awful lot of weirdos in one town!

Wallison Mon 04-Mar-13 21:23:33

I thought that when she said 'bird watching' she meant 'bird' in the sense of 'woman'.

girliefriend Mon 04-Mar-13 21:25:28

Yes especially the men!!

girliefriend Mon 04-Mar-13 21:26:20

Oh that would make sense Wallison!

Lynned Mon 04-Mar-13 21:28:31

Ok, who's going to try and guess who done it? I'm guessing the sister in a fit of jealousy. Everyone else is too obvious.

AllOverIt Mon 04-Mar-13 21:33:48

Now watching second episode. Seems to be going a bit more 'spooky beans' now.

Finding it hard to give a rat's arse about any of the characters...

Lynned Mon 04-Mar-13 21:35:24

My crapometer is steadily rising...

girliefriend Mon 04-Mar-13 21:38:27

uh oh!!

Lucyellensmum95 Mon 04-Mar-13 21:38:35

its so bad its good - too much going on - but i reckon mr estate agent is having an affair iwth the girl!

girliefriend Mon 04-Mar-13 21:39:48

I think the actual police on this are terrible!! I would hope they would be a bit more proactive if it were my daughter!!

Lucyellensmum95 Mon 04-Mar-13 21:40:58

oh, maybe not sad

Lynned Mon 04-Mar-13 21:41:20

It needs a woman, that will be Fi then.

Lucyellensmum95 Mon 04-Mar-13 21:42:25

but then again........

Lynned Mon 04-Mar-13 21:46:30

Why do I feel like this is 5 hrs of my life I am going to waste. Hop it's not going to be like Crickley Hall, wtf at the end.

ifancyashandy Mon 04-Mar-13 21:47:22

Wish I'd picked Broadchurch over this. I love a spooky 'whodunit' but this is dullsville.

Lynned Mon 04-Mar-13 21:48:06

Glad it's not just me then.

Teahouse Mon 04-Mar-13 21:52:37

Something strangely hypnotic about it.
All these people with secrets!

Cherrypie32 Mon 04-Mar-13 21:53:41

Watch Broadchurch on ITV + 1 after smile

girliefriend Mon 04-Mar-13 22:01:12

It still managing to scare me a bit but then I am a total wimp

Hope its not Lynus (?sp) as he seems nice unlike his psycho father

rhondajean Mon 04-Mar-13 22:02:20

The music is annoying me a bit.

Not sure what's going on yet.

iMyself Mon 04-Mar-13 22:16:05

Is Broadchurch repeated somewhere? Don't have itv+1

Pancakeflipper Mon 04-Mar-13 22:22:13

I love Linus's nose. Don't let it be him.

CointreauVersial Mon 04-Mar-13 22:31:33

It was all filmed in our local town - DS has just seen his locker in the school scene.

Tbh, that's all that's holding my attention at the moment (well, that and Aiden Gillan's gorgeousness). It's all a bit odd.

NoelHeadbands Mon 04-Mar-13 22:31:45

Haven't caught up with this one yet, but just wanted to ask if sophie okonedo reminds anyone else of David Walliams?

grin

Pancakeflipper Mon 04-Mar-13 22:35:09

Which is Aiden Gillian?

I'm really enjoying it. NO IDEA what's going on but the woods are pleasingly sinister and everybody in the town is more than a little odd. Like the completely bland policeman, makes a change from having the police at the centre of the drama as they are in Broadchurch (which I also enjoyed this evening though I cried quite a bit too). ALan is the creepiest character for me atm. Every time he touches poor Fiona I want to leap out of the wardrobe shouting 'red flag, red flag, leave the bastard'

It better have a good ending..........

NoelHeadbands - YES!! Glad it's not just me! grin

valiumredhead Tue 05-Mar-13 08:43:49

REALLY enjoying this so far!

WTF was the hair/birdsnest all about? It obviously wasn't a birds nest but what was it meant to be?
Anyway, I shall be watching the next three episodes!

valiumredhead Tue 05-Mar-13 08:54:16

It was part of her Mayday crown she was wearing when she disappeared.

gwenniebee Tue 05-Mar-13 09:03:53

I think it's all a bit weird! And I'm finding it strangely slow moving, too - I know the point is that everyone is going to start suspecting each other, but there seems to be too much focus on the fact that it seems everyone has something to hide.

I found the scenes with the po and his wife the most upsetting, the way he was forcing himself on her and all that creepy touching. It's what my first "boyfriend" did with me and I could just imagine how her character was feeling. Ugh.

Horsemad Tue 05-Mar-13 09:20:30

Gave up after episode 1!! Have got a really busy week and can't spare the time to watch on iPlayer. If the first one had grabbed me, I'd have made time, but it just didn't leave me wanting more.

mrsjay Tue 05-Mar-13 09:30:30

I dont think it is paedophile ring now not a clue whats going on <scratches head> maybe a lovely bones vibe her sister got that thing that fell on her (not sure what it was ) so Hattie is trying to tell her what happened, I wonder if it is going to be a woman as the men seem to repulsive and the women so nice and put upon iyswim,?

The thing which fell was a tooth I do believe. And NDN blatantly stands for next door neighbour.

mrsjay Tue 05-Mar-13 10:59:23

And NDN blatantly stands for next door neighbour.

yes it does yuck horrible man she is 14 shock

WowOoo Tue 05-Mar-13 11:02:04

Advice please:
I watched the second episode without watching the first. Enjoyed it.

Do I need to waste an hour of my life and watch first episode on iplayer?
Did i miss anything crucial or can I just carry on next week?

mrsjay Tue 05-Mar-13 11:04:55

I would watch it if you get a chance will set you up for what happened I spose and it is on tonight not next week dont miss it grin

NoelHeadbands Tue 05-Mar-13 11:07:22

NotQuitePerfect

Yy! David Walliams doing Lou, of Lou and Andy?? It's uncanny grin

kimorama Tue 05-Mar-13 11:08:10

Too drawn out. Tedious. Broadchurch more credible

WowOoo Tue 05-Mar-13 11:13:13

Thanks mrsjay.

Had no idea it was on tonight, phew!

Better set tonight's to record whilst I catch up.

The PO is very creepy, don't like him. His wife suspects him too. I think there is more than one killer though.

OnlyWantsOne Tue 05-Mar-13 11:24:43

It's the video store bloke. Bet ya.

Bellini12 Tue 05-Mar-13 11:30:04

Filmed in my home town too (one scene was at the end of my road so am having fun location-spotting!). Having said that, I've not warmed to any of the characters, they are all so shifty & unpleasant and I'm not having it that the teenagers are meant to be 14 (more like 24!).

I like the fact that everyone suspects everyone else, and that each individual is under scrutiny for their behaviour, demeanour, past...so everyone is guessing which 'traits' could make you an identifiable murder.
Apparently the writers were inspired by a horrible Crimewatch report which asked people to come forward if they knew of anyone locally who could have committed a 'heinous, evil crime' and they had multiple phonecalls naming different people within a small community. That's why it is not all from the police angle (like these things usually would be for these dramas - I wonder if that's why the police seem feckless, just because we aren't seeing much of them?)
Anyway - quite enjoying it, hoping for a creepy ending grin

murderer

I think the thing in the loft is a red herring put there by the teddy stealing Seth. He's tall, wouldn't have needed the ladder.

I was wondering about video guy. He's quite power crazed isn't he grin

BeaWheesht Tue 05-Mar-13 12:29:43

It's all a bit odd. If your daughter went missing would you send the other one to school and then let her walk home through the woods with your weird NDN?

grin at the video guy!

zukiecat Tue 05-Mar-13 13:48:34

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I agree zukie. That is odd - she was out at all hours and they had no idea where. That's not realistic at all but maybe just a dramatic device and the writers are conveniently overlooking that issue.

zukiecat Tue 05-Mar-13 16:29:43

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diddl Tue 05-Mar-13 19:27:44

Perhaps she's run away because she's sick of living in town of weirdos!

armagh Tue 05-Mar-13 21:44:43

Very odd people. The female po on maternity leave seems quite dim re husband's shirt. Actually a bit dim all round and i used to think sophie okonedo was a brilliant actress but this is a tad unbelievable.The missing girl's twin sister seems unperturbed by her siblings disappearance and she seems to dye her hair from one day to the next- black sunday, dark brown monday ( when on the roof drinking) and back to black tonight- vair strange smile i mean if your twin sis was missing i don't think you'd be dyeing your hair. Did the twin do it? Aidan Gillen's character unbelievable too. Perhaps Lesley Manville's character did it?

AllOverIt Tue 05-Mar-13 21:52:06

God it's getting weirder. Why am I bloody still watching this.

They all did it. And I couldn't give a shit. The end.

zukiecat Tue 05-Mar-13 21:56:44

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iMyself Tue 05-Mar-13 21:59:46

You know what's especially irritating, is the inexplicable odd behaviour.

Why the heck is Sophia what's it's character so insistant that her daughter didn't see Hattie and the go cry in the loo?

Also what did I miss about ndn?

CointreauVersial Tue 05-Mar-13 22:08:16

I reckon the female PO did itgrin

She is behaving in a most peculiar fashion.

iMyself Tue 05-Mar-13 22:13:28

They're all behaving perculiar! Irriatingly so.

Don't know why I'm watching, but the chances are I'll see it through.

nipersvest Tue 05-Mar-13 22:16:36

am wondering if the final outcome is going to be a bit of a let down in the end. all this scene setting and mysterious behaviour is reminiscent of 'lost' and what a let down the end of that was!

iMyself Tue 05-Mar-13 22:20:43

Oh yes especially the whispering in the woods is lost.

I've started so I'll finish. Why do I do this to myself!?

gwenniebee Tue 05-Mar-13 22:40:02

Oh it's just getting weirder. I am vair confused. Especially the whispering woods. And the little girl is clearly running away with her hamster now.

My dh said it's like Midsomer Murders on speed.

CointreauVersial Tue 05-Mar-13 22:41:57

And the weird stones dropping from the sky. What's that all about?

I think they are teeth. Linus's bruise healed quickly! Overnight practically.

ivykaty44 Tue 05-Mar-13 22:54:55

Bellini12

would love to know where it was filmed, have been watching for any clues but I don't think it is somewhere I have visited...

Ok, not teeth!

Things we learnt tonight (spoilers):



There is good Seth and bad Seth - is this significant?

Linus' dad likes blondes and was having a thing with Hattie. His wife was also blonde and is mysteriously dead and continues to appear at the edge of the woods.

Malcolm is dead and prior to being dead was peeping tom and crap at business. Again I think this is all red herring

Seth described Hattie as an earth spirit

Caitlin is being showered with stones

Charlotte could hear the woods whispering to her and then talked to her hamster

Charlotte's dad Alan is STILL behaving strangely

I don't think there's a straightforward explanation for any of this. I don't think Hattie is necessarily dead but I think the woods send you utterly loopy. Malcolm spent time there and is dead, Gail despairs every time she sets foot there, Seth is very odd, Charlotte can hear the trees talking to her. I think Seth's throwaway reference to druids may turn out to be interesting.

I don't get how Hattie could have rung Caitlin either. She was in her MAy Queen costume - where was her phone?

And Charlotte claims to have seen Hattie on her way to be may queen but her mother does not agree and is being very insistent that Charlotte is mistaken.

Oh and that Hattie and Everett went to a dance class ( or hattie did and Everett watched or something) every weds at eight. There was quite a bit of dialougue to give you plot elements and no other reason for it, in this episode.

Pixel Wed 06-Mar-13 00:14:31

It's obvious that the PO didn't have a 'hearing' to go to and there were no charges in the first place to be dropped. He just told his wife a story to cover up the blood on his shirt.

I'm getting really sick of everyone covering up evidence, is there not one person in that village who would go to the police?

I think that the fact that the other girls in the class won't dance without Hattie is more than a little Wickermanesque grin

mrsjay Wed 06-Mar-13 08:58:26

*come forward if they knew of anyone locally who could have committed a 'heinous, evil crime' and they had multiple phonecalls naming different people within a small community. That's why it is not all from the police angle (like these things usually would be for these dramas - I wonder if that's why the police seem feckless, just because we aren't seeing much of them?)
Anyway - quite enjoying it, hoping for a creepy ending *

Oh is it I quite like that it isn't a police drama and yes they all suspecting each other, you could see that happening in a community, oh he was weird or he was always hanging about iyswim. the Police man Fis husband is a creep <shudder>. I am wondering if it is a wickerman thing (clutches at straws) . I am gripped and I hope it hasn't got a feeble ending

mrsjay Wed 06-Mar-13 09:54:24

DO you think Everet is taking dance classes to pick up girls or is the teacher who picks up girls?

nipersvest Wed 06-Mar-13 09:57:07

the character of fiona is bugging me a bit. as an ex cop, i would have thought she'd take what her daughter was trying to tell her a bit more seriously given she obviously is suspicious of both everet and her husband.

mrsjay Wed 06-Mar-13 10:00:58

she is acting a bit shady though I know she suspects the men but she should have trusted her child she isn't all that young that she didn't know what she who she had seen

Maybe fiona did it?

guineapiglet Wed 06-Mar-13 10:22:19

Got embroiled watching an equally tortuous Champions league match of epic proportions last night, so only tuned in for last 20 minutes, so all your comments have got me up to speed - thought the bit with the recorded phone message was quite creepy and shows the 'twin' now has a reason for keeping this evidence hidden, Linus' dad is really creepy as well. Why didn't Fiona believe her daughter and why did she sob so in the bathroom? Did she really believe that was a birds' nest?!!?

Like others up post, part of me just does not care, because none of them seem like 'real' people - but maybe that is the whole point, we have all got something to hide, and also, as a huge LOST fan, I dont want to be walked up the garden path to some really feeble ending - but I will still watch as I want to know now!

<looks at self in the mirror. Do I know anything about it?>

nipersvest Wed 06-Mar-13 10:47:25

some (spoiler) info here about the last episode, click the 'show more' button

Blondeshavemorefun Wed 06-Mar-13 12:08:42

while making this no one knew who did it till the end, to make it more life like and all actors acting suspiciously iyswim

Malcolm hanging wasnt good - brought back memories sad

charlotte is most insistent she saw hattie, yet mum says she didnt - why

pervy but sexy aiden having it off with a 14yr - saying that she didnt look 14 at the beginning when cycyling, i would have placed her 20ish

hattie and caitlin both played by same person - useless fact grin

wondering if catlin had something to do with her sister disappearing

<<hug>> for blondes sad

valiumredhead Wed 06-Mar-13 13:02:20

Last night's episode was very unsettling especially the end!

Can some one explain the relevance of NDN - next door neighbour obviously but did Hattie write that somewhere? I seem to have missed that bit.

Blondeshavemorefun Wed 06-Mar-13 13:06:25

thanks lurker didnt expect that-always the unexpected

valium was on the inside door of hatties school locker -

valiumredhead Wed 06-Mar-13 13:16:44

Ahhh thanks, that makes sense!

CointreauVersial Wed 06-Mar-13 13:24:13

Ivykaty44 - it's filmed in Dorking (Surrey).

mrsjay Wed 06-Mar-13 16:37:47

Maybe fiona did it?

maybe she did but why ?

mrsjay Wed 06-Mar-13 16:40:01

do you think Linus knew malcom liked boys because of his erm webcam enterprise in the first episode and he was online half naked talking to an older man doing something for more money <shudder> and I am not believing these kids are 14 maybe 24 but not 14 grin

BeaWheesht Wed 06-Mar-13 16:44:16

Yes mrsjay - that's why. Also not sure re his son either.

I think it might've been the sister. She looked unreasonably shocked when she saw her sister wasn't on the float and am thinking maybe she played a prank that went wrong? Or was involved in a prank that went wrong?

zukiecat Wed 06-Mar-13 16:47:54

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Pandemoniaa Wed 06-Mar-13 17:56:15

I'm really enjoying it but then I always like a bit of weirdness. Can't help but be irritated by Sophie Okenedo's character. Too many "significant" expressions for my liking. I shall also be somewhat cross if paganism takes the rap for all the off the wall activities. But it's all fascinating, none the less.

iMyself Wed 06-Mar-13 18:11:23

Yes thought that too mrsjay about Linus. Hadnt really cottoned on he was supposed to be 14 too though [stupid]

ivykaty44 Wed 06-Mar-13 20:13:21

thanks mrsjay

LittleBairn Wed 06-Mar-13 21:24:39

Finally a body!

LittleBairn Wed 06-Mar-13 21:28:36

My theory on who dunnit was Linus may have in order to build a connection with the twin he fancied.
But being dragged up into a tree, it could turn out to be multiple people like Wicker Man.

Blondeshavemorefun Wed 06-Mar-13 21:57:34

So hattie was seen getting on a train? So she isn't dead??

Still watching as 30mins behind

Pixel Wed 06-Mar-13 22:00:19

Erm... I should keep watching!

girliefriend Wed 06-Mar-13 22:00:36

Think it was her sister, the stones thing is very freaky though!!

Roll on tomos!!

nipersvest Wed 06-Mar-13 22:02:44

not sure why so much of the focus is on gail, seems like a bit of a dead end now her husband is dead. before the body turned up, i had started to think that caitlin was in fact hattie, swapped identities or something.

BeaWheesht Wed 06-Mar-13 22:04:03

I missed the last few minutes - saw up to when 'Malcolm' was on Linus's call screen - what did I miss?

Who was the train girl? Caitlin with a wig?

Malcolm's son is v strange

When does it come up on iplayer! I want to watch it sad

Cremolafoam Wed 06-Mar-13 22:06:26

Wtf with the pebbles plz

gwenniebee Wed 06-Mar-13 22:08:14

Bea, he didn't answer/she hung up before he answered. Alan told Fiona she should go back to work and consider CID as she was a detective through and through (or words to that effect). Caitlin was showered with pebbles while lying on her bed.

I am still vv confused.

Malcolm's son is extremely odd but seems to be the only one who isn't trying to cover his own tracks (he is only covering his father's) so on that basis alone I think it was James wot dunnit.

iMyself Wed 06-Mar-13 22:09:43

Not sure what the hecks going on. Crime series with a supernatural edge. Peddles are weird.

If the girl at the station is Caitlin then she's obv involved.

Don't know anything about the wickerman, should I look it up now or wait?

Quite heart stopping intro! Why did she bite herself?

MadameFlutterby Wed 06-Mar-13 22:16:21

I have a feeling that Caitlin is actually Hattie. Hattie was in love with Linus (that would explain the NDN thing) but she knew that he liked Caitlin so was jealous. She has then killed her sister and taken on her identity. Also do you remember when Everett looked in the mirror and saw 'Hattie'

The watch shaking was a bit weird.

I reckon Caitlin killed her, but apart from that I have no idea as to what is going on at all, but keep watching. Don't get the pebbles but presume they are in her mind?

WhereMyMilk Wed 06-Mar-13 22:28:05

I think Linus killed his mother and has blocked it from his memory.

His dad is just a gut who snags about.

And Caitlin-not sure...

WhereMyMilk Wed 06-Mar-13 22:28:32

Git, not gut!

I wander what it was that Everett did to Fi?

LittleBairn Wed 06-Mar-13 22:33:07

Madam I was thinking that it might have been her too. I remember the first Ep when she was kissing a boy, it was a bit odd.
But she would had to agree to swap places with Caitlin do they could dye/change hair.

Or Linus killed her to get closer to Caitlin then blackmailed Malcolm to help place her body up te tree. Malcolm helps because he doesn't want to be revealed as a perv but is consumed by guilt he kills himself.

BeaWheesht Wed 06-Mar-13 22:36:45

I was wondering if Linus killed his mum and then his dad made it look like an accident and he's blocked it out?

MadameFlutterby Wed 06-Mar-13 22:44:02

In fact the more I've thought about it the more I think that it is a case of swapped identities. All the other suspects are to distract us

BeaWheesht Wed 06-Mar-13 23:04:25

I think it is too but don't know the logistics of it. Hattie and Caitlin's mum is a bit insignificant so far isn't she?

morethanpotatoprints Wed 06-Mar-13 23:07:46

Has anybody suggested that the po is drugging his wife, thats why she seems so dopey.
I just wish the whole thing moved a bit quicker and hope its not a wtf ending too.

Blondeshavemorefun Wed 06-Mar-13 23:18:40

That will teach me to reply before watching it all

So if hattie and Caitlin had swapped. Maybe c killed h then pretended to be her on the bike so people thought she was alive then she dyed her hair to be c

Think Linus killed his mum but blocked it out hence why the dad hates him

I think Malcolm's son is quite sane in the circumstances - whatever happened he was still his pervy dad

Was there a gay thing going on with Linus and Malcolm - hence his number was one of the last ones he rang before he killed hisself

20yrs is a long time to hold a grudge. Maybe she likes him but he broke her heart and went off with Linus's mum to be

Stones - haven't a fucking clue grin

BoreOfWhabylon Wed 06-Mar-13 23:19:50

I think Seth found her body and put it in the tree. That's why he can remember brushing dew off her face, etc and he therefore thinks he must have killed her while he was 'Bad Seth'.

As for who actually killed her, I agree with Milk, twas Linus, who also killed his mother (at least, that's what I think now, but it may all change again tomorrow).

BeaWheesht Wed 06-Mar-13 23:21:54

Good point re Seth I think you could be right.

Steven strange as well isn't he - about to abduct his wee boy when his wife has just warmed to him seeing him and her niece has been murdered?

BeaWheesht Wed 06-Mar-13 23:24:28

Po woman has seen a lot hasn't she?

- insisted she didn't see Hattie - too insistent
- washed blood off shirt
- saw Linus dad washing car
- took photo of him with blonde girl
- found birds nest thing

Didn't report any of this yet went towards moon pond despite Malcolm's advice and reported the clothes therefore delaying search by hours???

Blondeshavemorefun Wed 06-Mar-13 23:29:45

Good point BEA - maybe she did it - but she did seem shocked when found out hattie was missing

MadameFlutterby Wed 06-Mar-13 23:33:05

Yes I think you're right on Seth theory! Maybe 'Caitlin' has been deliberately hanging about outside/on the roof because if it is really Hattie she wouldn't want her parents to realise..

nipersvest Wed 06-Mar-13 23:33:17

yes, seth finding the body and putting it in the tree makes sense

Blondeshavemorefun Wed 06-Mar-13 23:41:11

Why would Seth put the body high in a tree though?

Also strange how the blond druggie boy managed to have everyone's phone number including a teachers to text the pic of hattie to

BoreOfWhabylon Wed 06-Mar-13 23:45:37

It's all part of the Nature-worship/druidy thing. She's at home in the trees.

Pixel Thu 07-Mar-13 00:25:36

I did think right back at the beginning that the twin thing might be significant and that they might have swapped but then I wasn't so sure.

Blondes was blond druggie boy putting it on twitter as they were all watching it? (not that I know how these things work as I'm not a 'twit'). I was annoyed that students were looking at phones in class and the teacher didn't do anything. Terrible discipline tsk tsk!

The watch shaking was a bit weird
Maybe she thought it was one of those self-winding things that work on movement when they are worn?

But I just don't get what the significance of it was. Cinematically such a big deal was made out of tue safe opening and the examination of the watch, why? Or is it just a device to fill time semi-deliberate pun there

Blondeshavemorefun Thu 07-Mar-13 03:08:36

pixel I'm not a twit either - but looked like on Linus's iPhone he just tapped pic on the screen - are teenagers on twitter lots - thought they would be more FACEBOOK but yes very surprised teacher didn't comment then she looked at her phone

Didn't understand the sirnificence of briefcase and money either - was malcolm being blackmailed ?

iMyself Thu 07-Mar-13 06:36:11

I'd have thought Malcom was being blackmailed by Linus, because Linus knew he 'prefered boys' due to Malcom having recognised him from that internet chat naked video chat thing Linus does.

Didn't even take in the watch shaking part, it was Malcoms watch I thought (what was writtenon the back?)

Havent a clue with the stones, but if it is a swap maybe its a guilt/imagination thing. For some reason!

Really there's no point in CAitlin and Hattie being twins if they haven't swopped places! Perhaps Caitlin was supposed to be on the float, revaling her black hair at a critical moment. Which is why Hattie looked shocked - because she had disappeared.

Clearly the death of Linus' mum is important. I wish somebody would just say exactly what happened.

I am also VERY suspicious of Fiona. Don't see how she could have done anything though - she had three little children with her. Would cramp your style somewhat. It's very clever though - only one episode to go and everybody is still acting as suspicious ly as possible!

mrsjay Thu 07-Mar-13 08:36:40

I have a feeling that Caitlin is actually Hattie. Hattie was in love with Linus (that would explain the NDN thing) but she knew that he liked Caitlin so was jealous. She has then killed her sister and taken on her identity. Also do you remember when Everett looked in the mirror and saw 'Hattie'

this is what I thought now think it might be Linus or somebody trying to protect Linus,
I think he has been stalking Hattie thats why his dad was at the dance centre on a wednesday i think he had been botherng Hattie, Also the drug dealing lads said to seths brother watch the TV and then the CCTV things came on, I do think Linus has something going on with him the boy said he had gone 'phsyco' after his mum died, probably they used to be friends
It is driving me up the wall It has been so good but really frustrating

mrsjay Thu 07-Mar-13 08:40:18

are teenagers on twitter lots - thought they would be more FACEBOOK but yes very surprised teacher didn't comment then she looked at her phone

My teenagers are into twitter dd1 especially she has since she was 14/15 although cant see seths brother being on twitter maybe they linked to facebook you can do that with twitter (apparently)

limitedperiodonly Thu 07-Mar-13 08:41:31

Haven't caught up with this one yet, but just wanted to ask if sophie okonedo reminds anyone else of David Walliams?

I'm behind with this so am just catching up with the thread but YES! noelheadbands.

Thanks. I'd never have got there on my own.

Furball Thu 07-Mar-13 09:22:52

I said I thought it was Caitlin after last nights episode, but dh said thats what they want you to think - so I'm confused

Jaden - the drug bully boy - Patsy palmers son! aka Bianca in eastenders

Cremolafoam Thu 07-Mar-13 09:26:27

Bea YES the twins mum has hardly been in it! Why is she so invisible. And what about the DVD shop boy and the kebab man.??
Rofl
< hopes for it just to be over>

mrsjay Thu 07-Mar-13 09:37:40

Jaden - the drug bully boy - Patsy palmers son! aka Bianca in eastenders

Is it didnt know that grin I wonder what Everet did to FI in 1991 ?

mrsjay Thu 07-Mar-13 09:38:19

< hopes for it just to be over>

It is driving me potty

Bellini12 Thu 07-Mar-13 10:03:10

I'm intrigued now! I'm beginning to think it could be Caitlin (the twin thing must be significant in some way) or Linus. He is definitely mixed up; abusive un-caring father, sees visions of his mother, still doesn't know how his mum died and the dodgy Internet stuff. I do think Seth was instrumental in placing the body in the tree as he had some kind of 'spiritual' connection with the girl.

There are still lots of questions - why was evett washing his car, why does the PO detest him, what was in the bag...? I do hope it doesn't end up like LOST with lots of loose endings.

mrsjay Thu 07-Mar-13 10:06:49

If it has a rubbish ending I will be angry not as angry as when LOST finished though I almost cried with frustration grin

I wonder if caitlin was jealous of hattie or maybe hattie killed herself and 'others' were in on it <clutching at straws>

Blondeshavemorefun Thu 07-Mar-13 10:51:06

maybe evett was washing his car to get rid of evidence knowing his son had used it - even though meant to be 14

same as blonde bully (bIancas son grin) SAID HE WANTED A CAR, HES MEANT TO BE 14/15 SO CANT LEGALLY DRIVE

whoops hits caps in excitement

there must be a twins link or else why mention they were twins and not just sisters, saying that they look so different with blonde and dark hair, that weird its the same person playing both

cant wait for tonights, will be watching 30mins behind again as working, so will not peep at this thread after 9pm smile

nipersvest Thu 07-Mar-13 10:57:16

for a bit last night, i thought alan may be a twin too. his daughter said he wasn't her dad - more twins swapping places. but then, after that, alan started acting a bit more normal and fiona went all weird instead.

BeaWheesht Thu 07-Mar-13 10:59:10

Yes that bit about her saying he wasn't her dad was strange

Blondeshavemorefun Thu 07-Mar-13 11:01:22

i though charlotte meant he was her step dad and not real dad

if he is her dad and a twin 'blondes brain explodes'

morethanpotatoprints Thu 07-Mar-13 11:06:37

I think Linus was sick because his dad cooked some dodgy knock off meat and that was what was in the back in the cupboard.

I thought Charlotte meant Alan was her step Dad, but now I'm not sure.
I think there are so many red herrings and the ending will be something predicted by somebody, that sounds so reasonable and boring really.

Oh well we'll find out soon enough.

morethanpotatoprints Thu 07-Mar-13 11:07:02

bag in the cupboard, lol.

I have absolutely no idea what the hell is going on!

ProfYaffle Thu 07-Mar-13 11:13:34

Every time I see Linus my head fills up with We Are The Pigs, if I were 20 years younger <rubs thighs>

limitedperiodonly Thu 07-Mar-13 11:16:23

Caught up now. No bloody idea grin

Them being twins has to be significant, doesn't it? I agree with whoever said that Caitlin is really Hattie and that it's Caitlin who's dead. Don't know why though and how they'd sort the hair out.

Totally insignificant but WPc Walliams has an enormous garden but apparently no spare room.

recall Thu 07-Mar-13 11:23:39

I think Linus is Malcom's son. that is why Everret said to Linus "you are lucky that I let you live here and feed you" and also why Malcom had money in an envelope for Linus.

Malcom was being blackmailed....?

mrsjay Thu 07-Mar-13 11:25:01

I think Linus is Malcom's son. that is why Everret said to Linus "you are lucky that I let you live here and feed you" and also why Malcom had money in an envelope for Linus.

WHAT confused no he can't be is he

recall Thu 07-Mar-13 11:27:31

I am extremely distracted that Fiona looks like David Walliams

Well the field of dislikeable men is shrinking. The only one I really really hate now is Everett.

nipersvest Thu 07-Mar-13 11:35:02

from the promo at the end of last night episode -

everret saying to linus that he's been protecting him

alan coming down the loft ladder looking shocked/shifty

fiona saying she'll put things right

seth says something about caitlin changing/transforming

gail finds linus - must be more to this part of the story as the writers are focusing on gail so much.

Lucyellensmum95 Thu 07-Mar-13 11:36:20

Its going to have a crap ending - there IS something going on with that policeman though he is vile

limitedperiodonly Thu 07-Mar-13 11:38:44

Don't say that sad It is going to be crap, isn't it?

foxymoon487 Thu 07-Mar-13 11:40:08

Liking the twins-swap theory.How about if the girls
swapped guises for a Mayday prank (as suggested above)
unbeknownst to mixed up Linus who killed Hattie
because he is compelled to murder blondes like he did
his mum?Or he thought Hattie was his mum in some way ?
But then it is revealed to be not Hattie but Caitlin and he
goes mad ? I actually think the twin swap could be a red herring
and the answer will be down to good old-fashioned pathological
jealousy.Probably Sophie's character who will end up being
obsessed with Linus's dad who abandoned her in 1992.
Do we actually know when this is set ? The clothes are
sort of now but not quite.L's dad could be the little girl's father.
Her creepy husband is definitely a red herring and his blood
on the shirt story could be true but delivered in a sinister way.
Or put upon Gail (Leslie Manville) might in fact have known
more about her husband's financial ruin at Hattie's hands
than she let on All these possibilities.Can't wait for tonight !

Agree that Hattie is alive and Caitlin is dead - and that they swopped - but Hattie had nothing to do with her death. It's definitely Hattie as she's not into physical intimacy with Linus whereas Caitljn was into snogging at the beginning - she looks shy now.

Also think that Linus killed Caitlin thinking she was Hattie but he doesn't know he did it - Malcolm was Internet perving on him and killed himself when he realised he was perving on his own son!

Linus doesn't know he killed Caitlin as he has had a psychotic break or is schizophrenic (really hope he's not schizophrenic as it really pisses me off when dramas present schizoid illness as violent angry )

Lucyellensmum95 Thu 07-Mar-13 11:45:48

Somebody dies tonight - and angie gets arrested (covering up for her vile husband no doubt). I refuse to believe that one person could drag that girl up that tree

guineapiglet Thu 07-Mar-13 11:57:47

Hi all- am getting very confused trying to watch this, Lightfields and Broadchurch - why are there no decent dramas and then three on simultaneously, plus I need my regular fix of Sons of Anarchy - iplayer is on all the time!!smile Eagerly awaiting Shetland too on Sunday btw.

To whoever it was upthread who spotted the David Walliams look alike - thankyou! - absolutely spot on and when I watched it last night, kept expecting to see Matt Lucas doing something dodgy in the woods ( well, everyone else is)

What is going on? Everyone under suspicion in one way or another and everyone seems to be related to one another - definitely agree with the twins supposition that Hattie is C and vice versa - although why did she say 'Hattie' right at the end when all the pebbles fell on her. Why aren't the parents in it very much either, we hardly see them?

I would be really fed up if I felt that my kids were being taught in a class where everyone has their phones out like that..... is the fact that they were studying 'Othello' relevant???????

Roll on tonight < more dilemmas, Nashville is on later, will I be in a fit state?>

BeaWheesht Thu 07-Mar-13 12:31:44

Foxy - it's filmed now because he said 1992 was 20 years ago.

No teenage boys have hair like Linus nowadays though do they??

limitedperiodonly Thu 07-Mar-13 12:57:43

Not going to solve it but...

Inspired bit of detail from whoever it was from the production company who decided to put the teddy in a school tie in the branches of a tree. Outside the family's house. When the girl's body had been found in a tree.

Grief tourists do things like that, don't they? And then they say they reelly care. Sleep tite, angle. Nitey nite. Arggh!

Fiona looks like David Walliams dressed up as Lou from Lou and Andy!

Just watched the last two episodes back to back. I am getting a little confused with this, Broadchurch and Lightfields! I agree with the poster upthread who thinks Seth didn't kill Hattie, but put her body in the tree. The PO (husband) is still creeping me out and Linus's Dad (or not, as the case may likely be) is a wanker. It was implied that he may have assaulted or raped Fiona when she was younger.

Meant to add final episode tonight, hope it isn't disappointing.

Furball Thu 07-Mar-13 13:50:12

Lucyellensmum95 - and angie gets arrested (covering up for her vile husband no doubt). - who is Angie?

I can't believe I've watched this for 4 hours and still don't know what the hecks going on grin

What happened between Everett and Fiona on Mayday in 1982? Was Fiona the May Queen back then?

haveapear Thu 07-Mar-13 14:24:49

I've just caught up too and haven't got a bloody clue.

The only thing I did think is that Linus is a rent boy because he commented that Malcolm couldn't have killed Hattie because he prefers boys. Which makes me think Linus didn't do it either or he would be glad that the blame was falling else where.

Stones though, what's all that about?

iMyself Thu 07-Mar-13 14:25:09

on of the copper the copper one call the midwife isn't he. i have to admit to being rubbish at spotting this things mind!

Blondeshavemorefun Thu 07-Mar-13 16:15:25

if malcom is L's dad then means his mum had an affair (obviously lol) and maybe thats why she is dead

and killed his self as perving over his son? why else would his number be in his phone?

maybe it is the policeman who killed hattie/caitlin hence the blood on shirt

SinisterBuggyMonth Thu 07-Mar-13 16:34:46

ProfYaffle I keep thinking Linis is a young Brett Anderson too. That haircut, sigh.....

ProfYaffle Thu 07-Mar-13 16:35:50

Thank God it's not just me! Was beginning to think I'm a bit odd. I would've adored Linus when I was 17.

SinisterBuggyMonth Thu 07-Mar-13 16:40:43

I would have worshipped him from afar, and blushed furiously if he'd ever attempted to talk to me. There were no boys as cool as Linis at my school.

<looks up DogManStar on ipod>

ProfYaffle Thu 07-Mar-13 16:48:28

Yeah, in reality I would've been the same!

I think the stones are about when Caitlin said Hattie believed life was in the stones and that she saw them everywhere. She's seeing stones because she's BEING Hattie.

I'm wondering if Hattie has forgotten she's her and NOT Caitlin.

I'm seeing mental health issues everywhere grin

armagh Thu 07-Mar-13 17:21:45

It's not clear what's going on but it's a helluva lot clearer than The Killing (American version). I think a lot of screen writers / directors are so up themselves they like to make things as clear as mud. smile

WowOoo Thu 07-Mar-13 17:26:39

I too think Linus looks like a better younger version of Brett Anderson.
Someone up the thread said he has a beautiful nose and I completely agree.

Blondeshavemorefun- great analysis....I think you might be right about Malcolm and Linus. The texts would make sense. The cash? A bribe not to tell Malc's wife?

Lucyellensmum95 Thu 07-Mar-13 17:41:26

oh, i don't BELIEVE it, i've endured this shite all week, only for DP to announce that he is going out tonight and i'll have to do bedtime - which is is going to eat right into 9 o clock, fuck.

Oh and am i the only one who would do that irish guy?

BeaWheesht Thu 07-Mar-13 17:46:25

The Irish guy?! He is a horrible sleazy creep!

and looks remarkably like my next door neighbour who is Italian, not Irish

SinisterBuggyMonth Thu 07-Mar-13 17:51:48

I dont think Linis, the beautiful one, is Malcolms son, I thinkMalcolm was perving online at Linis and paying him. I also Malc saw policeman in magic circle with a girl but was spotted and a conspiracy of silence is between them.

Most of the men over 30 are horrendous characters. Highvis man had a samuri sword above his telly. The mark of a cock.

I think Malcolm was perving on Linus and possibly others in the magic circle, but he saw the murder and was told not to get involved/go to the police by the killer/killers because he was being blackmailed. I really hope it wasn't Linus who murdered Hattie/Caitlin. The PO and L's Dad both very odd with young girls, in fact I was scared for the PO's daughter. Does every May Queen end up attacked/dead? Was L's Mum the May Queen?

Sinister beat me to it! Great minds....perhaps?! smile.

hattymattie Thu 07-Mar-13 18:11:23

I must be well thick - identity swap not occurred to me. Very confused with all these MN theories - I'm going to be watching avidly tonight. smile

Pixel Thu 07-Mar-13 19:00:25

although why did she say 'Hattie' right at the end when all the pebbles fell on her. I was wondering that.

Did anyone else think that Malcolm's wife looked a bit shifty when the son said "after all he is my dad"?

And Linus? Ergh! how could you? He completely gives me the creeps. Oh and going to Fiona's house and 'breaking down' and saying he wants to go to the police about his dad, I reckon he'd gone there in the first place planning to frame him, knowing Fiona was a copper and would believe him if he blubbed a bit. He'd already told Caitlin that something was going to happen and that he was doing it for her.

Oh god, it's obvious that Fiona was once the May Queen too! She said she used to be a model <slaps head>

Right, new theory - more Wickerman type shit - all the May Queens get drugged/raped after the ceremony in some horrible ritual.

And Caitlin swopped with Hattie as she heard about it? And she had sex before and didn't want her 'pure' sister to suffer ?

RooneyMara Thu 07-Mar-13 19:14:03

Oh no I really couldn't, not Linus - and I have MET Brett Anderson and he asked me to share his cab. I said no blush

He is just so PALE.

RooneyMara Thu 07-Mar-13 19:14:28

Brett was gorgeous, I mean. <comes over all funny>

Pixel Thu 07-Mar-13 19:31:20

Actually the more I see of fiona, the more I think thank goodness she left the force to have children, because she must have been a rubbish copper. She is completely useless, all that scurrying around, staring like a rabbit in headlights every time someone speaks to her. She is driving me mad!

RooneyMara Thu 07-Mar-13 19:38:28

I wonder if she just has an eyesight problem. Just a bit myopic? I cannot STAND her weirdy creepy husband.

I didn't mean Fiona (though she was May Queen too) but Malcolm's wife used to be a model - bet she was the May Queen and exploited sexually too.

SinisterBuggyMonth Thu 07-Mar-13 19:45:31

I am so jealous of * Roony* right now!

iMyself Thu 07-Mar-13 20:17:21

Fiona was May Queen? was that said? Hmmm there might be something in that.

morethanpotatoprints Thu 07-Mar-13 20:38:05

Malcolms wife said she met him when she was 14 and he was much older, so he obviously perved after women then. Was she a May Queen and Malcolm exploited her sexually.
Maybe it is all the May Queens who are drugged and raped.
Fiona always seems in a drugged state to me.

gwenniebee Thu 07-Mar-13 21:01:11

Here we go... the "shocking" conclusion....

XBenedict Thu 07-Mar-13 21:03:08

I think it's the copper.

Interestingly my old dad said he thinks Linus is Malcolm's son.

Fiona looked a wee bit surprised to here that Hatti might be alive in yesterdays episode.

Pixel Thu 07-Mar-13 21:03:45

I wonder if she just has an eyesight problem. Just a bit myopic?
She already wears glasses. Perhaps she should have gone to Specsavers? grin

XBenedict Thu 07-Mar-13 21:07:55

And what Linus's dad do to the policeman's wife on that bank holiday?

Well the hand that grabbed her in the woods was a mans and was wearing a black jacket with gold buttons on the end - like a coppers.

LittleBairn Thu 07-Mar-13 21:23:18

Oh I wonder if Fi was trying to work out if the twins switched too? She must e a MN...

XBenedict Thu 07-Mar-13 21:26:16

Poor Seth, I think he knows what happened.

Yes, thought that as she looked at the picture on the funeral programme first and then seemed to be comparing.

flatmum Thu 07-Mar-13 21:26:50

Fi needs a slap

rhondajean Thu 07-Mar-13 21:26:58

I have no idea - Linus dad has turned out to be a good guy I reckon - and if Thr may queens were all abducted/raped wouldn't they wait till after the ceremony?

rhondajean Thu 07-Mar-13 21:27:28

Oh Seth!!!!

flatmum Thu 07-Mar-13 21:32:10

Did her dad do it?

LittleBairn Thu 07-Mar-13 21:32:35

Yes would have to be after the parade otherwise they would never take part.

Fi is starting to come across as stoned.

flatmum Thu 07-Mar-13 21:33:40

Why had Linus' dad suddenly had a personality transplant?

rhondajean Thu 07-Mar-13 21:35:42

That's what I thought little, so wouldn't tie in then with happening to hottie before the parade.

WhereMyMilk Thu 07-Mar-13 21:36:39

Hmmm...Hattie wants to come back...

rhondajean Thu 07-Mar-13 21:36:52

*hattie

Bloody autocorrect

WhereMyMilk Thu 07-Mar-13 21:37:14

And the guilt won't let her be with Linus...

I reckon Fiona did it <places bet>

WhereMyMilk Thu 07-Mar-13 21:38:57

Oh dear. Poor Fiona sad

girliefriend Thu 07-Mar-13 21:40:43

That wasn't nice sad

LittleBairn Thu 07-Mar-13 21:41:30

So you suspect you husband murdered a teenager so you leave him with the kids!

rhondajean Thu 07-Mar-13 21:42:39

I'm running a minute or two behind you guys...so where on earth was the blood from then???on the shirt?

And where has Seth gone now? I'm presuming he's dead.

girliefriend Thu 07-Mar-13 21:42:43

Oh god this is getting seriously weird......

SinisterBuggyMonth Thu 07-Mar-13 21:43:04

I was think ing that too Little

WhereMyMilk Thu 07-Mar-13 21:45:48

Ah, that's why Malcolm topped himself-didn't come to her aid.

OldBagWantsNewBag Thu 07-Mar-13 21:46:31

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LittleBairn Thu 07-Mar-13 21:46:39

I bet Fi planted the hair thing on the other guy.

girliefriend Thu 07-Mar-13 21:46:55

WHAT??????!!!!

girliefriend Thu 07-Mar-13 21:47:27

shock

WhereMyMilk Thu 07-Mar-13 21:47:52

Naughty Fiona shock

OldBagWantsNewBag Thu 07-Mar-13 21:47:54

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WhereMyMilk Thu 07-Mar-13 21:49:03

Why the fuck would you want to spend the rest of your life with a murderer of a 14yr old girl?

XBenedict Thu 07-Mar-13 21:49:29

Revenge!

XBenedict Thu 07-Mar-13 21:50:14

Why didn't Malcolm help?

rhondajean Thu 07-Mar-13 21:50:37

What did ndn do to Fiona? Did I miss it when I was at the loo?

The little girl bit herself because she knows her daddy's a bad 'un and she's screwed up.

girliefriend Thu 07-Mar-13 21:52:52

yuck poor dog!

MeDented Thu 07-Mar-13 21:52:54

Why would you do that to the poor dog?!

WhereMyMilk Thu 07-Mar-13 21:53:25

Grim.

OldBagWantsNewBag Thu 07-Mar-13 21:53:28

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It's charcoal, features in a lot of pet food. Probably good for the dog.

Woman's as mad as a skunk though.

LOL! I can't believe she fed him to the dog! perfect smile

SinisterBuggyMonth Thu 07-Mar-13 21:54:25

Fucking hell Fiona
NO NO NO

rhondajean Thu 07-Mar-13 21:54:43

Don't think it's about the dog - she's turning Malcolm into the dog shit she thinks he was.

WhereMyMilk Thu 07-Mar-13 21:55:11

Becoming Hattie...

rhondajean Thu 07-Mar-13 21:56:01

Can someone PLEASE tell me what Linus dad did to Fiona!!

girliefriend Thu 07-Mar-13 21:57:09

weeeeeeeeeeeeeeird!

arggghhh also took a phone call.... thought it was Fiona, then seemed like it was her husband, now Caitlin dressing as Hattie and TOTALLY confused. Help?!

girliefriend Thu 07-Mar-13 21:59:06

Brilliant!!!

Crap ending. V disappointed.

WhereMyMilk Thu 07-Mar-13 22:00:24

How did Caitlin know he had done it, and what had Everett done to Fiona. And what the fuck had happened to the evidence-is that supposed to have been a weirdly Druid changing thing so Everett didn't get punished for something he didn't do?

Ledkr Thu 07-Mar-13 22:00:29

So many unanswered questions. Deeply unsatisfying ending.

girliefriend Thu 07-Mar-13 22:00:38

Right a few questions, what happened to Seth?

How did she end up in a tree?

Why didn't her family freak out when they saw her as Hattie?

Why would Fiona protect a murderer?

OldBagWantsNewBag Thu 07-Mar-13 22:00:43

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LittleBairn Thu 07-Mar-13 22:02:03

Caitlin didn't know, it was Hattie possessing her.

rhondajean Thu 07-Mar-13 22:02:11

Dare I point out how long it would have taken to bleach Caitlin's hair?

gwenniebee Thu 07-Mar-13 22:02:28

I have the same questions as girliefriend.

At least with Midsomer Murders you get answers. Hmph.

The ending fits in with what the community is like though, buried secrets, people not telling the truth, very incestuous.

Her riding round will torture that couple for ever.

I don't believe Fiona would stay with or want him - she's not been a wimp all the way through. And look how rubbish he was at sex, none for a year and then a thirty second thrust once he'd killed her.

Not worth it for 30 seconds.

LittleBairn Thu 07-Mar-13 22:03:19

Old that 'style' always annoys me too if I wanted to imagine the ending I would bloody bother watching the ending!

girliefriend Thu 07-Mar-13 22:03:23

I still enjoyed watching it though, think the stones were the ghost of Hattie letting her sister know she was there.... I think confused

SinisterBuggyMonth Thu 07-Mar-13 22:03:42

Do you think Linis was listening to Shes Not Dead?

XBenedict Thu 07-Mar-13 22:05:14

I enjoyed it but I knew it was the copper. Didn't think about the set up though although why would you? Why didn't Malcolm help though? Because he'd out himself in the process?

WhereMyMilk Thu 07-Mar-13 22:05:29

Linus is so handsome though <sigh>

And don't feel too bad as he is no way 16!

MeDented Thu 07-Mar-13 22:06:09

I have wasted 5 nights watching that - I hate a rubbish ending!

Umlauf Thu 07-Mar-13 22:07:03

So what was on his shirt?

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girliefriend Thu 07-Mar-13 22:11:02

Linus is very attractive but I feel like Mrs Robinson even thinking that!!

zombiesheep Thu 07-Mar-13 22:11:36

I'm so confused.

I do think Linus is attractive too!

Cherrypie32 Thu 07-Mar-13 22:13:18

Enjoyed it but, would have like to know what happened to Seth, would like to know that Everet got off. Seth put her body in the tree as per his rant in church, giving her to the trees (think he got her and her witchery). Only realised Linus quite fit really at the end, in a young Tom Cruise the way smile

iMyself Thu 07-Mar-13 22:18:20

Why did linus smile at the end in the cop shop, what happened to the charm (what charm anyway).

Require an ending that is an ending please, my words jyst before the credits rolled where "they better not end it here"

diddl Thu 07-Mar-13 22:18:49

What a load of bollocks!

Was hoping the cop was at least going to choke to death when he saw Hattie!

And the blood on his shirt-whose was it??

iMyself Thu 07-Mar-13 22:19:40

Oh also why was hattie responsible for "the curse"?

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diddl Thu 07-Mar-13 22:20:25

Oh and if it had been a charm/spell whatever that Hattie had made-how was that proof of killing her??!!

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Because the new charm that he made while dragging her round the woods had her cut hair in it.

So the person with the charm is the murderer.

She pretended to put a spell on him, which he believed, because he came onto her - hence his fury as it affected his sex life - all power of suggestion

BeaWheesht Thu 07-Mar-13 22:26:46

Well that's 5 hours I won't get back.

iMyself Thu 07-Mar-13 22:27:25

What was missing though - was it the thing f planted in linus' s dad's house?

readyforno2 Thu 07-Mar-13 22:28:53

Just caught up now. What a rubbish ending. Really disappointed as we enjoyed every minute up till the end.

Bellini12 Thu 07-Mar-13 22:29:05

Why would a PO believe in all that curse/spell stuff?

Why did Everett have a personality transplant after being worst father ever?

Why would Fi protect her husband like that especially as she has young kids (& not question what his motive was?)

diddl Thu 07-Mar-13 22:31:29

OK, I thought that the charm in the attic was something that she had made & just happened to have a few strands of her hair in it iyswim.

Oh well, it pissed me off anyway.

I didn't really like any of the characters so I didn't really care which one it was who had done it.

Steve was an annoying twat-& it looks like he may have got Seth killed!!

foxymoon487 Thu 07-Mar-13 22:31:30

Kept hoping for a sucker-punch twist
which never arrived.

diddl Thu 07-Mar-13 22:33:40

Yup-the evidence turning into a stonehmm

APO believing that a 14yr old had cursed himhmm

Fionashockhmm

Rollergirl1 Thu 07-Mar-13 22:37:54

I thought it was utter shite. Far too many things unexplained.

If the copper just wanted her to lift the curse why would he choose to apprehend her on May Day when it would be obvious quickly that she was missing?

How come Linus is all of a sudden some teenage gigola taking girls to the woods to have sex with, when everyone else always thought he was gay? And how come his Dad was taking girls there too?

Why did Everett say that Linus had killed his Mum when in fact it was actually really was an accident? And then why did he have a total personality transplant. What did he do to Fiona 20 years ago? What was in the black bag that he did want Linus to see?

nipersvest Thu 07-Mar-13 22:39:30

well, that was a shame. too many unanswered questions left.

Cremolafoam Thu 07-Mar-13 22:39:53

Why why why?
Everet change of personality- 'you killed your mother'was overstating the fact that she tripped on Linus 's Lego
Why did Caitlin go a bit loopy and change into hattie
What happened to Seth?
Why did Fiona cover for the dickhead murderer husband.!

iMyself Thu 07-Mar-13 22:40:52

Black bag = linus' s mums stuff?

Rest of the loose ends ?????

Cremolafoam Thu 07-Mar-13 22:41:11

YY and the black bag ??? Wtf

kerstina Thu 07-Mar-13 22:43:03

Well I really enjoyed it and thought the end was very clever. I disagree that Caitlan did not know who was the murderer I think she had a good idea when the policemans wife hugged her at the funeral.

PigeonPair Thu 07-Mar-13 22:45:11

The nest thing turning into a stone. Guess that was "Hattie" ( or should I say HATTAAAAAYY - that bloke shouting her name in the woods all the time drove me crazy). The stones were her "sign" weren't they as they were dropping all over her sister. So my understanding was that ghost Hattie swapped the nest thing for the big stone to nail the cop??

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iMyself Thu 07-Mar-13 22:47:18

Can you tie up all the other loise ends kerstina please (like the stones) because I'm just not getting it.

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ivykaty44 Thu 07-Mar-13 22:51:46

he shagged her? one night stand?

allagory Thu 07-Mar-13 22:58:50

Evidence didn't turn into a stone. The killer cop switched it back: he needed the charm or he believed he would be impotent. He did kill her for it after all so it must have seemed important to him. I though the stones falling down were a message to look up (i.e. in the tree) where they would find her?

iMyself Thu 07-Mar-13 23:01:08

I'm guessing Fiona went out with him and wasnt nice, but still. Can you imagine it;

AIB

I went out with one of our neighbours 20 years ago and he was horrible to me. M. and my husband hadnt had sex for over a year (his lack of desire, not mine, he says its due to a curse) and the other day he came home from work and we had a 30 second pleasureless shag. He's been well up for it since.

I've found a few things and worked out he murdered a local 14 year old girl (a girl he blames for his curse).

AIBU to frame the ex boyfriend for the murder because my family is so important

kerstina Thu 07-Mar-13 23:02:31

I don't really get the significance of the stones but it made sense that it was the sister communicating and therefore we knew it was Hattie (withcraft) that swapped the charm for the stone.
Dont get why you are all lusting after Linnus! Everett was the sexy one. What has he been in was it Ballykissangel?

kerstina Thu 07-Mar-13 23:03:49

Oh I see about stone yes cop swapped it ?

zombiesheep Thu 07-Mar-13 23:04:04

What about Fiona's daughter? The bite marks? Wtf?

Rollergirl1 Thu 07-Mar-13 23:06:12

Everett has been in loads of things:

Queer as Folk
Identity
Game of Thrones

He was also in a film called Blitzed with Jason Statham.

iMyself Thu 07-Mar-13 23:06:36

Everett was in Circle of Friends many moons ago

Blondeshavemorefun Thu 07-Mar-13 23:21:30

Finally watched. Avoided this thread till now

Really sad at the ending

So the cop did it. Coz hattie pretended to curse him?? how silly

His wife protected him sad Shame on her

How did Linus's mum die? Tripped on Lego?

So twins didn't swap

Is Seth dead?

What happened 20yrs ago. Sexy Irish man said he couldn't remember

Malcolm killed hisself coz of guilt

Linus was having sex and Malcolm got off on it

Was the end Caitlin pretending to be hattie or was it hattie as a ghost?

LOVED the feeding ashes to the dog

But in all a crap ending as too many loose ends sad

kerstina Thu 07-Mar-13 23:26:45

Definitely was Caitlin as it showed her getting changed into her clothes but she was touching all her stuff so perhaps taking on her persona. I don't know much about witchcraft though!
I think we were led to believe Seth was dead and I think there was a spoiler that we knew someone was going to die in tonights episode.

Cremolafoam Thu 07-Mar-13 23:28:43

He was Carcetti in the Wire
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tommy_Carcetti
He was also in Game of Thrones

I knew him in youth theatre days.

kerstina Thu 07-Mar-13 23:30:57

I might have to check out game of thrones then! Have not watched anything listed here but his face is very familiar. Lucky you if you knew him smile

I don't think Alan swopped the stone. He wasn't at work. He was at home with the kids. Hattie said she would come back and she did. You have to believe in magic to get the ending.
Which is why it doesn't matter how long it would take to dye hair etc. We aren't watching logic. It's magic. It's all about witches, Hattie, Fiona, Linus' mum - even Gail? There was at least one scene where Fiona was walking through the woods for no apparent purpose - when Charlotte seemed to hear the trees? I guess the trees are the source of the local magic and some local women tap in to that and use it. In Fiona's case it's about the home and the family, her energy is centred on that. Hattie was looking outward - and being very teenage taking revenge on a man who made a pass at her. Gail channelled all hers inwards - remember her son said 'when did you become such a bitch?' - when they moved there I think.

I loved it tbh.

Cremolafoam Thu 07-Mar-13 23:37:17

It was right and handy for Gail to get free cottage in Cornwall dontcha think? For her and the fat dog.
Also roared with laughter when she fed the dog Malcolm's ashes.

iMyself Thu 07-Mar-13 23:44:40

Ok so it was magic. I just don't like the little bit supernatueal aspect to it. Either its goingto be supernatural or not. The sort of is irritates me!

I don't think it was 'sort of'. It was there, you just saw or it or not. Chief policeman, Hattie's parents, James didn't see it at all. Charlotte, Caitlin, Seth, Alan saw it. Those pebbles were real - there's no logical explanation for that at all.

armagh Thu 07-Mar-13 23:58:06

I can't believe the po let her husband get away with it. Couldn't get what Linus and the dark haired twin were saying at the end. Could someone explain please. All very farfetched...till you read the daily mail and realise 'there's nowt so queer as folk'

Fiona was completely upfront about her stance. She said nothing matters more than her family. So she effectively drew a protective line around them. Coincidentally she was able to get revenge on Everett for his treatment of her - and he had no idea what she was doing. So she isn't letting Alan get away with it as such. She just won't let her family be destroyed. Her instinct is all about protecting and nurturing him. When they had the brief shag, remember her face - totally protective. Same with her reaction to the blood on the shirt and to the charm. She was going to get rid of it but then saw what she could do with it.

Still, quite misguided. If she rocked up on the relationships board, it definitely would have been a ltb situation.
Letting your kids be raised by a murderer? Not exactly the best one could do for them, IMO.

And she could have married personality transplanted Everett and she could have gone back to work, while he with his personality transplant new cheery disposition, could have stayed home to raise the kids and learn things like baking.

Pixel Fri 08-Mar-13 00:41:10

Those kids are very easily pleased anyway, getting all excited over watching Daddy eat a cake hmm. Very strange scene that. I was thinking they were making a big thing of him eating the cake in one go because he was about to choke to death on it when he saw 'Hattie' so that was a disappointment.

grin That would have been a good ending. Who writes these bloody things anyway.
I actually thought at one point, Fiona was setting Everett up so that the police would be busy with that while she manauvered Alan? Weirdo husband into a time and place where Hattie could get her revenge easily.
Would have been one for girl power but never mind!
Anyway, those kids were awfully compliant, never underfoot during important scenes, very unrealistic, ime.

Furball Fri 08-Mar-13 03:51:13

and there's 5 hours gone with a disappointing ending.

I thought he could of least had a heart attack at the sight of Hattie. Or as Pixel says could of choked on his cake.

recall Fri 08-Mar-13 06:20:26

Maggie I love your ending, he would have been a nicer Dad

Smellslikecatspee Fri 08-Mar-13 06:58:12

Totally rubbish ending.
Really hacked off.
I know the feedback will be oh we wanted it a real life as possible. And in real life questions are left unanswered etc etc

But damn it if I wanted real life I won't be watching fiction. I want it all resolved; all threads neatly tied up in a bow!

Those kids are very easily pleased anyway, getting all excited over watching Daddy eat a cake

They were just having fun - presumably he had been a miserable git for the last year and now they had their daddy back (hence the "you're not my daddy" stuff with the girl).

I assumed Linus smiled at the end because he had been told the evidence had gone.

Even with belief in magic/witchcraft it was far too vague IMO.

Something else that's bothering me - wouldn't it have been obvious that Hattie's hands had been tied with those cable tie type handcuffs?

Sugarice Fri 08-Mar-13 08:09:44

What a crock of shite that was! angry

I like to see a baddie get his comeuppance, be it being hauled off to the Nick or being chucked off a cliff.

What a detestable bunch they all were and as for Fiona, well words fail me !

BBC, must do better.

diddl Fri 08-Mar-13 08:33:30

"Dont get why you are all lusting after Linnus! Everett was the sexy one."

Amen to that!

I like Peter Firth as well tbh.

mrsjay Fri 08-Mar-13 08:47:54

I like Peter Firth as well tbh.

I always used to think peter Firth was colin baker until colin baker was on im a celeb blush

ANNNYWAAAAAAAAY what a load of rubbish the ending was cant believe fiona would set Everett up like that for her 'perfect family' how wet is she what did he do to her in 1991 just what did confused where is seth is he dead
so hattie is going to haunt them forever is that better than jail probably when you think about it but what a really pants ending I was a bit shocked at the reveal but after that it just went down hill,

mrsjay Fri 08-Mar-13 08:50:25

Loved the whole witchcraft thing though and hattie coming back and swapping stones etc and Malcom being dog shit culdnt happen to a nicer man grin

limitedperiodonly Fri 08-Mar-13 09:09:31

I liked it and I think northernlurker is right. If you believe there are witches but that most people don't believe in them the whole thing makes sense.

The main thing I can't reconcile is Aiden Gillen's complete change of heart, it would have been better if he'd have been a git to outsiders but got on fairly well with his son apart from some dad/son teenage angst which would have explained the friction and given an excuse for the son to betray him which apart from the charm would have made everyone in town believe he'd done it.

They should have given him a job too. Even if he was a drug dealer, in fact, that probably would have been quite a good one to give him. It wasn't sensible that he'd been unemployed for 14 years and his son didn't realise.

But there were very 'earthbound' things in it like the police being quite crap, the searchers trampling all over the crime scene and causing more trouble than they're worth, the uneasy relationship with Steve and his BIL and son, the vigilantism and mawkishness, people wanting Malcolm and his wife to get their comeuppance because they were rich...

I didn't know about that Crimewatch story someone mentioned where they had an appeal and everyone started shopping everyone else. But it's very realistic.

People do gossip, they're easily led, they want to settle scores and they are oddballs in every town either really dodgy or harmless that can get the blame.

I think Aiden Gillen raped WPc Walliams 20 years before. But I think that he not only didn't think it was rape, he didn't even remember it. I can see how she'd want revenge.

I think it's believable that she'd want to stay with her husband and cover up for him. It's horrible, but people do.

It also didn't matter that you didn't see Seth's body. You saw Hattie's dad attack him, you heard him scream and you saw the blood. He's dead.

Isn't part of the Green Man myth that an innocent gets sacrificed. Don't really know but I'm dimly aware of it.

limitedperiodonly Fri 08-Mar-13 09:18:24

And I liked it being open ended. Hattie is going to have her revenge on the policeman and his wife. They'll just have to wait.

And Aiden Gillen is lucky that his dead witch wife is looking out for him because otherwise he would have got framed. I find it depressingly realistic that sometimes the police nick the obvious person and then stop bothering to look.

Oh the other thing I found unrealistic was three squad cars tearing round the countryside to arrest Aiden Gillen. But then most arrests are quite boring so I can forgive them making it exciting.

nipersvest Fri 08-Mar-13 09:27:39

on reflection i think the 'baddie' does get his comeuppance. the ghost of hattie will never leave them alone, she'll always be there pointing. as a viewer maybe we're meant to imagine the rest, they'll not be able to live with that, it'll consume them and they will have to come clean in the end.

mrsjay Fri 08-Mar-13 09:29:29

on reflection i think the 'baddie' does get his comeuppance. the ghost of hattie will never leave them alone, she'll always be there pointing. as a viewer maybe we're meant to imagine the rest, they'll not be able to live with that, it'll consume them and they will have to come clean in the end.

yes you are right she said she would come back for him and she did maybe it wasn't such a bad ending after all but I so wanted him to get 'done for it' I can imagine Everet would have got off with lack of evidence seeing as the charm is now a stone

I imagine the squad cars screeching to arrest him was to act as a counterpoint to Fiona & murdered drinking wine. I was waiting for them to arrive at their house and cart him away.

mrsjay Fri 08-Mar-13 09:33:35

yes that is what I though was going to happen i was open mouthed at it like noooooo get him you are at the wrong house ( i may or maynot have been shouting that at the tellyblush )

limitedperiodonly Fri 08-Mar-13 09:37:31

Oh yeah. They had to have some way of making you think they were coming for the policeman when they were really coming for Everett.

I hadn't twigged that Fiona had hidden the charm at Everett's house. I did wonder why the camera had focussed on her bag on the chair but I thought Everett was going to steal it/knock it ff the chair or something

diddl Fri 08-Mar-13 09:40:25

"on reflection i think the 'baddie' does get his comeuppance. the ghost of hattie will never leave them alone,"

I doubt he'll be able to have sex again at the very least!!

MirrorballMoon Fri 08-Mar-13 09:43:28

I really enjoyed it but would have enjoyed it much less without this thread! Lots has been pointed out on here that I probably would have missed, being somewhat of a dimwit with these things grin Although, that's half the fun of it, I suppose - picking up/not picking up on clues and then things slotting into place eventually.
Have always loved Aiden Gillen, since Queer As Folk. Must revisit that, I think...

mrsjay Fri 08-Mar-13 09:45:24

I doubt he'll be able to have sex again at the very least!!

meh bad things happen to bad people grin

Lucyellensmum95 Fri 08-Mar-13 09:46:19

disappointed - i KNEW it was that vile policeman, controlling violent twunt.

So yeah, i'd still do the irishman (cant remember his name)

I also don't like that justice wasn't done - he will do it again, well he wont, because its not real but ........

mrsjay Fri 08-Mar-13 09:46:28

I liked Gails friend was a friend after all and not a superfical rotary club wife ( like the other ones who ran away)

Lucyellensmum95 Fri 08-Mar-13 09:52:56

It sort of reminds me of the film "hot fuzz" actually

Bellini12 Fri 08-Mar-13 09:57:50

Loved the bit where Gail's friends came over & she made no bones about the fact her husband was a pervert & they made their excuses & left. She appeared a stronger woman & ready to start the next chapter of her life.

ProfYaffle Fri 08-Mar-13 10:04:31

lucyellen me too! I was convinced they were all in on it at the start and it would be some sort of Hot Fuzz style conspiracy!

RooneyMara Fri 08-Mar-13 10:20:57

I knew it was him, or at the very least, he was acting like a complete weirdo and Gawd knows what she sees in him. I feel sorry for their children with two strange parents.

Everett's toy cars story made no sense - I reckon that was a fabrication - Linus just fell for it in a kind of Stockholm syndrome, couldn't-bear-the-alternative kind of way.

Stones still make no sense, Caitlin pointing at blokey like she knew it was him - how would she know? He'll probably commit suicide, possibly killing his wife and children at the same time.

Anythin with witchcraft kind of element leaves me a bit cold but I thought the murder scene was quite good.

Still want to know how she got into the tree though. And I cannot like Linus knowing what he did with Malcolm.

mrsjay Fri 08-Mar-13 10:23:54

I think seth put her up the tree for her to be reborn or whatever it is that happened, so does witchcraft and woo happen in rural england alot then grin

valiumredhead Fri 08-Mar-13 10:50:06

I loved it BUT what did Linus' dad do to piss Fiona off so much twenty years ago, or was it just to illustrate he was such a shit that he couldn't even remember being nasty to her?

Wrt a copper believing the curse - he tried it on with Hattie many times, so she 'cursed' him and then he became impotent with Fiona, he wasn't planning on killing her he just wanted her to remove the curse and when she explained it was all in his head he exploded.

Wrt the hair turning to stone - I thought it was Linus' mum that did that as when his dad was being arrested she was seen in the reflection of the window.

Gail was the star of the whole thing imo -fantastic!

RooneyMara Fri 08-Mar-13 10:54:45

See I was trying to figure a way of getting my head round Fiona protecting him - that it just 'happened' as a form of madness to an otherwise decent bloke? iyswim

But then she said 'you tried it on with me' and I can't get past that - he's clearle a disturbed chap and capable of doing it again and again.

I thought Gail was brilliant with the Rotary women and feeding Malcolm's ashes to the dog was funny. I think she had the weight off her shoulders at last and good for her not going through a charade of a funeral. I agree that was a good moment when the only lady from the Rotary who remained offered Gail the house in Cornwall.

Was slightly annoyed at the ending, but at the same time I liked the supernatural, slightly pagan feel and the fright on that bitch Fiona's face and her evil husband. Even if Everett did attack her.....your husband is a freaking murderer you silly bint! Would you want that round your children? I think she is possibly not quite right either, like her husband.

WowOoo Fri 08-Mar-13 11:17:30

I was very satisfied with the ending. Spooky and magical, yes!

I loved it.

I thought it had something to do with Fiona and I wasn't totally wrong!

Gail was fab. I loved the blase way she was with her 'friends' and I liked how the other woman (can't remember her name, but great actress too) offered her a house in Cornwall.

I liked the look on Gail's face when the Cornwall House friend said something about life being shitty - I think that's when she knew what to do with Malcolm's ashes.

Nope, my perfect ending would have seen Everett safely out the way some how, Hattie, Fiona and Gail coming together as maiden, mother, crone before sealing Allan in an oak tree for evermore.
But that would have been a very very supernatural ending. He would have deserved it though, his actions caused harm to all three of them in one way or another.

lrichmondgabber Fri 08-Mar-13 12:02:53

What a pointless drama Mayday was Yuk

Virtuallyarts Fri 08-Mar-13 13:20:40

Think Everett will get off, because presumably there is a complete absence of his DNA - and surely if you handcuff and strangle someone you must leave some DNA evidence? Though accusing looks will still follow him wherever he goes...

I think the PO will confess - the Hattie pointing will drive him to it, in fact it probably already has by now.

Shocked about Fiona - she seemed a very nice mum until the end, but imo that was not a good parenting decision!

Do you think Caitlin ousts Hattie and comes back?

valiumredhead Fri 08-Mar-13 14:37:38

I really loved it - I was hooked and loved the whole magical theme. I love watching things in one go so suited me down to the ground!

StAlphonzospancakebreakfast Fri 08-Mar-13 16:18:52

I agree, you have to believe in Witches for it to work. Love the idea that Fiona, Gail and Hatty should have come together at the end, that would have been much better, Hatty needed some female support definitely .. especially from Fiona if she was raped by Everett (I think thats what happened, although "I'm trying to be a better person now" doesn't really cover his complete personality change its true).
Seth put Hatty in the tree. And yes Seth is dead. Oh, I think that Everett had his dance gear in the black bag .. wasn't he going to dance classes with Hatty or something!?
The one thing that is bugging me is who was the girl at the station on the CCTV then if it wasn't Hatty or Caitlin .. that is what made me thing that the twins had swapped places (which I am also disappointed hadn't happened)
I really enjoyed it but didn't like the end, even though I like a bit of magical realism, it just didn't quite do it for me

StAlphonzospancakebreakfast Fri 08-Mar-13 16:32:37

*Hattie not Hatty hmm

'Justice' doesn't mean putting things back to the way they were. That's impossible.

The end result was that an innocent (of that crime anyway) man was going to be freed whilst two very guilty people were going to live in fear under a curse. Seems ok to me.

SinisterBuggyMonth Fri 08-Mar-13 17:08:36

I think the girl on the CCtv was the girl Everret picked up at the pub.

Pixel Fri 08-Mar-13 17:51:30

So what happens now? Which daughter have the parents of Caitlin/Hattie been left with? If Hattie is going to continually haunt the PO then does Caitlin stay as Hattie or has she got to spend the rest of her life dying her hair?

Pixel Fri 08-Mar-13 18:02:58

And what happens when Caitlin gets older? It will be obvious she isn't a ghost and PO will stop being bothered. He might even bump her off too so he can carry on playing happy families.

guineapiglet Fri 08-Mar-13 19:44:10

At the end of last night's episode, I didn't know whether to be pleased and relieved it was finished, or annoyed because so many questions were left unanswered - I'm glad I watched it but wouldn't watch it again if you get my drift. It made me restless all night, and then having thought about it all today and reading this thread, I realised that it really was up to us as the audience to think through and work out our own endings? What is justice? retribution etc.

Felt sad that Seth had to die, and what happened to Hattie's dad, now a murderer or not? No body found, and the justice dispatched undeserved, death of another innocent.

Did we ever find out what Linus' dad had done to Fiona? Was it to do with Linus' Mum? Found the Dad's sudden conversion to being a good dad a tad unbelievable, but maybe that was part of the 'magic' - the forest reminded me of the woods in Harry Potter - taking on a life of their own and being a character in their own right.

Still thought the best character in it was the menopausal mum - good for her, loved it when she served up the ashes in the dogs food, - eventually to go back to the earth - all very cyclical, her starting anew, reborn by the death of her vile husband....... all very deep!

Remain unconvinced by the behaviour of the two police officers ( Fiona and her drippy husband) - although maybe shouldn't be surprised.....

what a shit ending