West Wing from the beginning

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As there are many Nov 2012 mums currently enjoying maternity leave with much time on the sofa, we've recently been discussing which TV programmes we are enjoying watching. The West Wing has repeatedly come up as a programme that is on people's 'to watch' or 'to rewatch' for the zillionth time list, so here's a place where we can do it together!

Each Saturday night I'll post the titles of the episodes we will watch in the coming week, then we can come back here for chat, discussion, thoughts, questions and perving over the wondrous Josh

Anyone who'd like to watch with us is welcome too! But please no spoilers for those who are enjoying it for the first time!

So lets start with the first two episodes of series one:
Series 1, episode 1: Pilot
Series 1, episode 2: Post Hoc, Ergo Propter Hoc

ChunkyChicken Sat 26-Jan-13 21:34:02

<takes seat far too near tv, puts specs on & gets out notebook, & popcorn. Writes 'favourite things about Josh' on one page and 'which WW female am I most like?' on another>

Okay, I'm here!! Press play already grin

<whispers> when's the deadline again?!!

MadamGazelleIsMyMum Sat 26-Jan-13 21:36:21

Checking in. I've watched series 1-5 doing night feeds, but so as not to wake the rest of the household, did it with subtitles. Now I will hopefully be able to pay attention and perve on Josh. Will also need Wikipedia to hand to understand th political bits and pieces. American politics is confusing!

ubik Sat 26-Jan-13 21:38:31

Oh you are all in for such a treat

PetiteRaleuse Sat 26-Jan-13 21:39:01

Damn. Going to have to put the Wire on hold and buy WW now

Chunky we'll go Saturday to Saturday with 2 episodes a week to start with though I can polish off a series in a few days I realise other people may actually have a life

Madame we'll definitely be here to help each other with the bits that are confusingly political!

I am quite envy of those seeing it for the first time

MadamGazelleIsMyMum Sat 26-Jan-13 21:49:19

Am so going to have to remember that some haven't seen it before and contain my excitement by not skipping ahead as I too lack a life and referring to things in future series and mistakes because I am a loser like that

MinnesotaNice Sat 26-Jan-13 21:50:00

Oooh, I'd forgotten that I have WW in the cabinet. Started watching with DH ages ago but he didn't care for it so we didn't make it very far...maybe season 3? Am dusting it off and just informed him we are watching it after he finishes his movie (Couples Retreat).

tribpot Sat 26-Jan-13 21:51:49

Marvellous. Almost worth having a baby just to go on mat leave to watch TWW again grin

ChunkyChicken Sat 26-Jan-13 22:01:16

Excellent MissL.

Now how do I get DH to agree to watch it in lieu of all the things we've got recorded, w/out mentioning MN & making it sound like homework??!! hmm

Brockle Sat 26-Jan-13 22:23:43

It is scary how excited I am by this thread. Count me in grin

MrsLyman Sun 27-Jan-13 01:39:49

Hello, this sounds like fun it's been ages since I watched this so could definitely do with digging out the boxset. Very exciting, but I must warn you all I can Only tolerate so much prevuing over my husband wink

Catbag Sun 27-Jan-13 10:01:44

I'm so excited I may have to do the jackal grin

laughalot Your rendition of 'I'm too sexy' may me giggle a lot on the other thread. It also meant that I went around the house humming it in the way CJ sings it. Made DH smirk grin

Dixiebell Sun 27-Jan-13 13:02:03

Ooh can't wait!

StuntNun Sun 27-Jan-13 20:37:33

I have just bought season 1 from eBay so hopefully I'll get it in time for the discussion. I haven't seen a single episode so I hope it will be my thing. I'm fairly clueless about American politics short of knowing who the president is.

Well babylaughalot was up early this morning so have taken the opportunity to get started with the first episode.

I watch the whole 7 series at least once a year, and each time there are certain episodes that I skip. Mainly these are the standalone ones that don't fit into the timeline of the show, but I usually skip the pilot episode too so it's been a while since I've seen it. I think I find the introduction of some of the characters a bit twee, and the almost constant background music a bit off putting. It just didn't feel like a 'proper' WW episode because I know the rest so well, but I quite enjoyed it again this morning.

Some observations:
- Leo has a NICE home!
- Toby knows a lot about the plane he's flying in!
- The first walk and talk with Leo and Josh really shows off the enormousness of the set and how grand it is
- The press room is really different to how it appears in the rest of the show
- I love Sam's history of the White House, it's a shame he gets cut off as I'd love to have heard what else he would have said!

Some questions!
- Wouldn't Laurie, as a law student, know what POTUS stands for?
- Why does Mallory have a different surname to her dad Leo? I'm sure she's never been married
- what do the tally marks on Josh's chalkboard signify?
- having seen the rest of the show I'm sure we don't see the presidents 12 yr old granddaughter Annie, I'm sure they're all younger or am I wrong? Is it just one of those pilot episode things that got altered later?

Quote of the episode: whilst cycling the President came to a sudden arboreal stop!

Will try and fit in episode 2 later grin

ThenWeTakeBerlin Wed 30-Jan-13 12:48:55

Can I join in please? I'm not a mum (longtime MNer though) I've only just discovered TWW and LOVE it!

How's it going to work, are we going to discuss ep's 1 & 2 next Saturday, 2nd Feb?

misslaughalot your observations and questions;

I think Toby served in the military (Vietnam?) maybe that's why he knows so much about aviation.

Leo and Josh's walk - I think the creators wanted to show how vast the WH is, how many people work there, and how much goes on. It's not just the Oval Office. I think the show was originally supposed to be about the support staff and not the pres himself. Martin Sheen was so impressive in the pilot though, he became a regular.

Laurie - Admittedly I've never been to the US, but even I know what POTUS stands for, with no legal or political knowledge! I didn't really like her character. I hate any kind of glamourising of prostitution, it being presented as an 'empowered' career choice.

Mallory - Maybe she's been married and divorced? Or maybe the writer's didn't think that one through smile I quite often see errors like that in TV. A character refers to their deceased mother/granny and then at some point in the future talks about them in the present tense.

ChunkyChicken Wed 30-Jan-13 18:01:36

Dr: "In the event of a military coup, what makes you think the secret service would be on your side?"
POTUS: "That comment's going to fester".


Maybe Mallory has her Mum's maiden name??! Otherwise, that's daft, unless they had thought she would be married but changed their minds?

The eldest of POTUS's daughters has 2 daughters I believe, but they are definitely not 12yo in later episodes.

Laurie: uses pot, is a call girl. Wtf? Never going to get a job as a lawyer surely??!

MadamGazelleIsMyMum Wed 30-Jan-13 18:09:43

thenwetakeberlin - no, it was Leo that served in Vietnam. In a later series Toby describes how his draft number was 91, and the draft only went up to 78 that year (those may not be the exact number). However, his brother is a NASA employee, so that might be it?

The thing with Laurie is annoying, as am sure she would know about POTUS. However, they need a mechanism to explain things to the audience - they use Donna talking about stuff with Josh a lot to explain arguments for and against policies, and to explain some of the mechanics of American politics too.

DillyTante Wed 30-Jan-13 18:14:58

Ooh have literally just started again for zillionth time this week!

poshme Wed 30-Jan-13 18:18:47

Ooh! We have recently got into WW and are now on series 3. Never watched it before. We follow this thread & try not to do any spoilers.

Yeah, I understand that they need a way to do exposure, and I actually like the way that Donna gets used in future episodes to explain plot points or carry out a debate, but here it seems a bit sloppy to have a law student not know POTUS. The air stewardess also mentions it when she's giving Toby the message, surely she's less likely to know and they could have introduced it there some way?

Or am I over thinking it?! grin

In episode 2 we also get the first mention of a caucus, which I always let go as one of those American political terms that I didn't understand but it wasn't really important. It always seems to be used as a reason for characters to be somewhere or cut a meeting short 'we've got a caucus' but today I looked it up. Wikipedia tells me 'A caucus is a meeting of supporters or members of a political party or movement, especially in the United States'. I could have guessed that much

ChunkyChicken Wed 30-Jan-13 19:11:27

I think I knew 'caucus' from Alice in Wonderland...confused

I think the Laurie thing, whilst necessary perhaps, is sloppy given the normally excellent dialogue. Perhaps have her say 'POTUS is the acronym for... too isn't it?' And Sam respond somehow, confirming her thoughts rather than enlightening her, as it seems he does in the pilot.

Having watched episode 2 today also, I really love how the relationships start to emerge. It's great to see the senior staff gang up on Josh to get Mandy hired (although the less said about her the better) and little things like Mrs Landingham denying Toby a biscuit but offering Sam one right in front of him grin

Think my quote of the episode has to be: I don't understand, did you trip over something? wink

OliviaMumsnet (MNHQ) Thu 31-Jan-13 00:04:09

Mandy Schmandy
SO JEALOUS OF you all starting from the beginning.
Gratuitous Sam photo

Oooh thanks for the pic Olivia though Josh still has my heart

Surely you can watch a couple of episodes a week at MNHQ and join in with us?

OliviaMumsnet (MNHQ) Thu 31-Jan-13 11:58:41

Some questions!

- what do the tally marks on Josh's chalkboard signify?
They're votes that they can rely on whichever way x or y congressmen/senators are going to vote aren't they?

Brockle Thu 31-Jan-13 12:20:10

my girl crush on CJ started when she fell off that treadmill grin

OliviaMumsnet (MNHQ) Thu 31-Jan-13 12:33:20


my girl crush on CJ started when she fell off that treadmill grin

"You can have a normal life. You'd be amazed at how normal I can be, See, it's all about budgeting your time. This time, this hour - this is my time. 5:00 a.m. to 6:00 a.m. I can work out, as you see. I can think about personal matters. I can... meet an interesting man......."

TheGoatThatGotAway Thu 31-Jan-13 13:03:51

Right, I had decided just to lurk on this thread on the pretext of having a life outside MN and The West Wing. But CJ is mine, ok?

Brockle Thu 31-Jan-13 14:02:31

I think you will find that the flamingo is mine grin

Just finished the first two episodes and it was hard not to carry on watching. I really wanted to see Josh's diagram for Mandy smile

Dixiebell Thu 31-Jan-13 15:30:45

I think the POTUS thing is v unrealistic, but can see why they wanted to end the opener on that line - other suggestions wouldn't have the same impact! But it is a bit cheesy. And the CJ fall v slapstick, a tad Miranda-ish! But CJ great.

ubik Thu 31-Jan-13 16:13:49

Stay with it

First series is cheesy, then it gets very, very serious.

I need to buy the box set and watch it all over again.

Brockle Thu 31-Jan-13 16:32:41

it is a bit cheesy dixie but it more than makes up for it later. I am sure I heard that the intention was for the show to focus on the staff with the president as a bit part but they changed their minds after the pilot. So glad they did. I will stop being a geek nowsmile

Dixiebell Thu 31-Jan-13 17:50:35

I've watched all seven series at least five times so don't worry, I know how good it is! It's interesting to compare the early episodes and how the characters develop smile

ubik Thu 31-Jan-13 17:59:09

"We ^changed time zones?^"

I love it

Brockle Thu 31-Jan-13 19:48:32

sorry dixie I mixed you up with someone who was starti.g the series I put it down to sleep deprivation grin

canutesauntie Fri 01-Feb-13 02:07:40

Any excuse to dust off the box set again, Im looking forward to sharing it with fellow fans rather than DS2. We watched 1&2 together this evening and Im not sure it appealed to him that much. He kept asking "is that the President?" all the way through the pilot.
Who can not have a girl crush on wonderful CJ?

DillyTante Fri 01-Feb-13 07:31:41

The Mallory name thing bugged me too but obviously she had to have a different name so Sam didn't realise she was Leo's daughter. Though given what we see about how campaigns work later I can't believe he had never met her before.

Pilots are usually stand alone episodes anyway, and the resulting series often quite different. I believe Sam was meant to be a major focus of the show, but it didn't quite work out like that.

I could really do with a guide to explain all the nuances of American politics that even after several viewings I still don't get. I hadn't really thought about they way they use Donna to explain things.

It all starts so happy and full of cammeraderie and optimism doesn't it?

Have you watched episode 2 or 3 yet where the president overdoses on muscle relaxants? He's so funny! "I just wanted to say to you all...I'm thinking about getting a dog" grin

StuntNun Fri 01-Feb-13 15:23:23

I finished ep. 2 today so I'm getting to grip with the characters. I haven't really got into the show yet but seeing as you're all raving about how good it is I'm looking forward to next week's episodes.

ChunkyChicken Fri 01-Feb-13 17:25:13

I <3 CJ grin

I love the fact that the characters are developing in ep 2. We start seeing that Josh is a touch egotistical, Toby is dry but amazingly clever, Leo is a proper patriarchal figure, caring but in a distant way, CJ has a wicked SOH & POTUS is bit inappropriately funny.

CitizenOscar Fri 01-Feb-13 20:41:20

Why weren't you guys around last year?! I tried to re-watch TWW while
I was on maternity leave and barely got into season 2!

Baby never slept long enough for a full episode sad

CatelynStark Sat 02-Feb-13 10:02:09

Ok, I'm in! TWW has always been on my list so I've just bought the box set from that CEX place. (I'm not on maternity leave though, soz smile)

My initial impressions of 1 & 2 is that it's snappy, fast and intelligent and I like it but the music made moments a bit too God Loves America schmaltzy for my taste (I prefer gritty, lowlife stuff like The Shield usually). Yet, there were moments that moved me - I agree that Martin Sheen is very impressive.

I'm definitely joining the C.J. Fanclub - she's a sassy lady.

I'm on programme 3 so I won't comment on the plot yet in case I leak a spoiler to those who are watching for the very first time, like me - but it's getting good.

Is it bad that I don't fancy anyone in it yet? hmm

I also like the way that episode 2 introduces the VP. it's clear from the start that he's not part of the happy west wing family and hints as to what happened between the President and Vice President in the past are dropped.

Also, Leo can read CJ like a book!

Can anyone who's seen it before remember how far in the first term they are when the series starts?

<off to Google>

Ok, so the series starts 8 months into their first term. The Bartlett administration took office in January 1999 and the first episode was set in August 1999.

So those joining in with our rewatch, this week's episodes to discuss are are:

Series 1, episode 3: A Proportional Response
Series 1, episode 4: Five Votes Down

And of course thoughts on past episodes still welcome!

MadamGazelleIsMyMum Sun 03-Feb-13 18:30:30

Oh CatelynStark I am so jealous of you (and anyone else) who is watching it for the first time.

Well, I started it for about the millionth time when DS was born 13 weeks ago, and am up to series 5, so am kind of watching series 1 and 5 simultaneously. May just drop 5 and focus on 1!

FellatioNels0n Sun 03-Feb-13 19:10:34

I bloody love TWW. I am watching it for the first time and I'm almost at the end of series 2. It just leaves me with a big smile on my face every time. <sighs> CJ is bloody marvellous. Who can fail to love her?

CatelynStark Sun 03-Feb-13 20:06:09

MadamGazelle - I feel the same when anyone watches my favourite box sets for the first time smile

Well, I'm a few episodes ahead now and have definitely got TWW bug. I'm loving it!

There's not a character that I don't adore!

MarinaIvy Tue 05-Feb-13 13:47:02

It's the only show I watch where I don't do Any. Other. Fecking. Thing.

I don't eat, I don't drink (well, maybe a little), I don't do sewing or ironing or tidy the house or surf the internet.

Seriously, the dialogue and direction is worthy of my undivided. Aaron Sorkin is God, and I normally hate American television. Pity the follow-up series (Studio 60) fell victim to the writer's strike, because that had such promise.

Future Best Line Ever (not really a spoiler):

Toby: "'Up Yours' does not win you votes"
Passing intern with the right accent: "It does in New Jersey"

MarinaIvy Tue 05-Feb-13 13:48:20

Re: Alison Janney - I actually seek out things that she's in. Loved the cameo in the updated Miracle on 34th Street.

Dixiebell Tue 05-Feb-13 17:40:45

Marina, I liked Studio 60 too. The Newsroom is quite good. Not on a par with TWW. And just watched Moneyball too, which although a bit indecipherable being about Baseball, is still quite good.

MadamGazelleIsMyMum Tue 05-Feb-13 19:28:17

I agree Marina he is god. Love A Few Good Men and The Social Network too.

FellatioNels0n Wed 06-Feb-13 06:30:45

I watched the one last night where CJ stood in front of the the President, Josh, Toby and Sam and the President said 'so what will the papers say tomorrow? ' and CJ said 'blah blah.....and depending on which part of the conversation they overheard they will say that I am very good in bed.'

Cue confused faces.

Sam: 'Why?'

CJ: (all indignant) 'Because I am!'

ChunkyChicken Wed 06-Feb-13 14:41:31

I LUFFS Josh!!!

I also love ep 3. We see the burden of responsibility and the necessary separation of the personal and the professional aspect of the job weigh heavy on the President. We also meet Charlie. Plus Josh becomes even more of a smart arse. What's not too love??!!!

Brockle Wed 06-Feb-13 15:27:31

I love how Charlie changes through the series. His relationship with the President is one of my favourite things about TWW.

Catbag Sat 09-Feb-13 18:39:52

"What is the virtue of a proportionate response?". Really stuck with me, that sentence. Haven't started rewatching it yet, but given that I have seen it through about twelve times, I shouldn't have any problem keeping up with the chat wink

Just for the record- Mandy= worst character by far. Should not have made it past the pilot. Squeaky mare.

FrankellyMyDearIDontGiveADamn Sat 09-Feb-13 18:45:24

As an avid WW fan I will say that you will struggle to just watch 2 episodes a week - more like 2 per day grin

Catbag Sat 09-Feb-13 20:00:02

frankelly Wit you there- once the disc goes in, we can't stop watching to the end of the season grin

CatelynStark Sat 09-Feb-13 20:02:12

I've been up until 1am every night watching at least 3 or 4. I can't stop! grin

ChunkyChicken Sun 10-Feb-13 10:11:45

Def catbag re Mandy.

I'd forgotten that Leo gets separated so early on & that we learn he's in AA in the same episode.

Although I can see where Leo's Jenny is coming from, I feel that she's almost surprised he's out until all hours. I think she's a bit unreasonable - although Leo's addiction is now work rather than alcohol obviously, so perhaps her reaction comes from a place of love/looking after him, rather than annoyance/frustration at him forgetting their anniversary amongst other things. Yes, I would find it hurtful but you don't just suddenly become chief of staff to POTUS and its not a permanent job is it?? She must have had some idea about what it was going to be like.

hattymattie Sun 10-Feb-13 13:00:58

I've sort of stalled at Series 6 and lost interest a bit - I think it's when they start detailed conversations about policy and tax law that I can't follow. I need to take a deep breath and jump back in.

ChunkyChicken Mon 11-Feb-13 16:30:01

On ep 5 now & its just struck me. We've not yet met Mrs POTUS... Did Stockard Channing not get signed up at first or something??!

ChunkyChicken Mon 11-Feb-13 22:17:04

Hope this isn't too much of a spoiler... its funny how POTUS's speech to Zoe about her being kidnapped seems awfully familiar if you watch later episodes.hmm

Brockle Mon 11-Feb-13 22:22:59

I thought that when I watched that scene the last time cc definitely west wing day tomorrow smile

ChunkyChicken Tue 12-Feb-13 17:35:08

I'll say it again. I LUFFS JOSH!!!

He is bloody amazing in ep 9 (sorry, got a bit ahead of the schedule - couldn't press 'stop'!!).

li41lh Tue 12-Feb-13 17:57:38

Mallory uses her mothers maiden name for work, to avoid being recognised as Leo's daughter. Currently finishing up season 7, for second time in maternity leave...baby is nearly 4 months!

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh sorry guys, I've lapsed this week! Babylaughalot has a cold and has given up napping in the day (even though I thought she'd sleep more) so I haven't had time to sit and watch at all. I think she's over most of it now though, so will be catching up later this week, I promise!!

FrankellyMyDearIDontGiveADamn Tue 12-Feb-13 20:49:05

Martin Sheen wasn't supposed to be in the programme as much as he is! It started out as a "behind the scenes" kinda show, before they quickly realised how great Martin Sheen was in the role. I imagine they didn't see the need for much First Lady to begin with.

Dixiebell Wed 13-Feb-13 08:59:58

Stockard Channing is cool though.

Dixiebell Thu 14-Feb-13 10:33:17

Does the theme music get faster in later series?!

gingermcflea Thu 14-Feb-13 10:50:50

No -the theme music doesn't get any quicker, but your reflexes to hit fast-forward through it do!
The theme music is awful, isn't it?

Dixiebell Thu 14-Feb-13 11:07:29

Actually I quite like it! Good old WG Snuffy Walden hmm. DH and I used to sing along to it I'm afraid on one of our boxset marathons when ds1 was tiny and asleep downstairs with us. We always said the WW theme tune would be ingrained in his brain forever...

Dixiebell Thu 14-Feb-13 12:48:40

Ep 4 best so far I think. LO e the Toby fraud storyline and teasing of him and Josh. Like the knowing moment when Josh and Sam walking and both think they're following the other. And the Pres at the end dosed up on medication is classic - 'Before I go, let me just say this one thing...I'm seriously considering getting a dog'. Love it.

ChunkyChicken Thu 14-Feb-13 16:55:48

I too like the theme tune Dixie & DH & I used to sing along. I won't mention the monkey actions we do when singing along to the CSI theme, ooh ooh oooh etc

Ep 4 is a good one. Other bits are funny in later Eps but they start getting a bit more serious/political/nitty gritty. Still enthralling though.

The theme tune does change a few episodes in. It's quite placid in the first episode, then become more orchestral later on, but it's the same tune.

I like the new characters we meet in ep 3, Fitz and Danny (a personal favourite). Josh and CJ's argument in this episode is great, no normal people argue like that!

And as other have said, an over medicated president in ep 4 is very funny. This episode is also quite typical of the Sorkin storytelling style, when they introduce a topic the audience knows nothing about but the characters are much involved in (like 802, whatever that is) and its only through each scene that you build up the picture piece by piece. It's something my DP couldn't cope with well, he'd be constantly asking "what does that mean?" and couldn't just trust that he'd find out later (also because it meant paying attention all the time!)

Did you guys know that Nancy, the presidents secretary, is actually Martin Sheen's real life daughter?

Oooooh big block of cheese episode next grin

WillSantaComeAgain Fri 15-Feb-13 14:01:32

Oh, I'm so envy. WW is my favourite tv programme of all time, but as a f/t WOHM I just don't have time to watch it. If I could employ someone to rip all my DVDs to my ipad, then maybe I would. <Considers buying entire WW box set on itunes.> <gets frustrated in quest by stupid IT security policies>

I did know about Nancy being Martin Sheen's daughter. I assume you all know that Sorkin got the idea for the show from the American President (that very cheesy Michael Douglas film with Annette Benning) - it was in that show that he pioneered the "walk and talk" as a means of allowing a dialogue heavy show to move at pace. I believe he realised how well it worked in AP, which is what gave him the confidence to do WW. If you compare and contrast with another very dialogue heavy political film (Oliver Stone's JFK) from ten years earlier, you see how much better the walk and talk works.

It took me a while to get into WW because of the dialogue, the politics and the speed at which they talk (Sam in particular) but once you get into the zone, its just amazing.

I'm going to participate without watching, if that's OK?

Trying desparately to remember my favourite episodes... that one with the Chinese Christians is probably one of them. And agree with Bartlett's speech to Zoe after the incident with Josh and Toby in the bar is ridiculously powerful. I wonder if Obama or Cameron watch it and feel the shivers down their spine, because if you were a national leader with young children, that must be your biggest fear bar none.

Dixiebell Fri 15-Feb-13 23:06:42

You guys are like family ... I love you all very much. I don't say it often enough. So, tell me what the problem is, Toby.

I'm Sam, sir.


Sorry, Rob Lowe retweeted this today, so thought I'd retweet (sort of) here.

Dixiebell Fri 15-Feb-13 23:08:58

Fave episode has to be the closing one of season 2 with the cathedral, and Brothers In Arms. Say no more for those of you who haven't seen, but I love it.

ChunkyChicken Sat 16-Feb-13 08:47:22

I'm on the Lord John Marlborough (is that right?) eps at the mo. So funny.

Love that all the Leo stuff brings out the protectiveness & shows them all to be a close "unit".

Love the Goldfish/goldfish stuff too grin

BeckAndCall Sat 16-Feb-13 08:55:25

<rushes in breathlessly and slides onto WW sofa>

< wonders where the hell she's been for the last two weeks>

Chunky, if you're at the start of the Gold fish visual jokes, keep watching...... Every time you see the Goldfish, take a look at what is in the bowl....... You might have to freeze frame or rewind to get the detail.....

ChunkyChicken Sat 16-Feb-13 18:00:16

Will go back & check them out beck smile

FrankellyMyDearIDontGiveADamn Sat 16-Feb-13 18:24:06

Yes Gail has a different prop most episodes grin

Spoilers here for those who haven't seen the whole series, but if you want a rundown of all the props that Gail has in her bowl (there are LOADS) then this is a good website

DillyTante Sun 17-Feb-13 13:30:20

'I've been up until 1am every night watching at least 3 or 4. I can't stop!' Yup, that's what happens! Then the West Wing style dreams start...

You know West Wing fans are called WingNuts <displays badge proudly>

FrankellyMyDearIDontGiveADamn Sun 17-Feb-13 13:58:45

There was a West Wing spoilers thread running here in Telly Addicts, for those that wanted to discuss the show without spoiling it for newbies grin

OliviaMumsnet (MNHQ) Mon 18-Feb-13 23:40:10

So what happened to Charlotte's husband and the girl who help Bruno Gianelli?
(Season 3)

JoSavage Fri 22-Feb-13 00:04:52

Just found your club..
Veteran WW nut of old, would love to revisit those days
Will start ASAP

ChunkyChicken Fri 22-Feb-13 11:06:05

Approaching the end of season 1. LOVE "Let Bartlet be Bartlet". It's got 'everything' in it. Drama, pace, lots of walking & talking. Everything.

DillyTante Sat 02-Mar-13 18:02:44

Right if you are nearing the end of season 1 I suggest making sure you have season 2 to hand & make sure you have time to watch at least 2 episodes. You have been warned!

ChunkyChicken Sat 02-Mar-13 19:10:24

Oh yes indeed Dilly!! DH & I have watched & re-watched TWW but I was watching it again solo. DH decided to join & we kept saying 'we'll just watch a bit of the next one...'. We're saving the rest of season 2 until the week, as we're away on a short break so thought our evenings would be well occupied with that (& might take season 3 just in case, even though we're only away for 4 nights wink).

Love Danny & CJ's thing at the end of season 1 going into season 2.

NewGirlInTown Sat 02-Mar-13 23:42:27

I love The West Wing and have watched each series a gazillion times but I NEVER knew about the changing objects in the goldfish bowl! Thank you Mumsnet and fellow WingNuts! Now I have a legitimate reason for watching them all again!

Catbag Sat 09-Mar-13 19:13:01

laughalot That website is awesome! I have watched TWW 40,000 times and not once noticed the stuff in Gail's bowl. Brilliant!

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